World of Warcraft

[Second]

* Players will now be awarded experience for completing objectives and actions that yield honor in Battlegrounds (honorable kills not included).
* Players who do not wish to gain experience through PvP can visit Behsten in Stormwind or Slahtz in Orgrimmar - both located near the Battlemasters in either city - and turn off all experience accumulation for the cost of 10 gold.
* Disabling experience gains will prevent a player from gaining experience through any means available in the game.
* Players with experience gains turned off who compete in Battlegrounds will face off only against other players with experience gains turned off.
* Behsten and Slahtz can reinstate experience gains for players, for a 10 gold fee of course. Any experience that would've been accumulated if experience gains were not turned off cannot be recovered.

INTERESTING. Twinks will love it, but won't be able to smash non-twinks.

# Arathi Basin

* The time it requires to capture a base has been reduced to 8 seconds, down from 10 seconds.
* The game now ends when one team reaches 1600 victory points, down from 2000.

# Eye of the Storm

* The time it requires to capture the center flag has been reduced to 8 seconds, down from 10 seconds
* The game now ends when one team reaches 1600 victory points, down from 2000.

# Strand of the Ancients

* The faction starting on attack/defense will now be randomized at the start of each match.

# Warsong Gulch

* There is a now a 20 minute timer on this battleground. After that time, the team with the most flag captures wins. If this would result in a tie, the team that captured the first flag wins. If neither side has captured a flag, then the game ends in a tie.

BGs starting to speed up too? Awesome.

After much quiet contemplation, rogues now possess the ability to learn how to use one-handed axes.
Haha. Nice.

A customizable totem bar will now be available for shaman allowing the storing of 4 different totems. These totems can be placed on the ground at once in one global cooldown for the combined mana cost of all 4 totems.
:o

Druids will now be able to see their mana bars when shape-shifted.
Vendor prices will now be listed on items whether or not players are at a vendor.



* The ravasaur trainer Mor'vek has returned to Un'Goro and will offer to help Horde players raise and train a Venomhide Ravasaur as a mount... if they can survive the creature's deadly poison.
He's back! In POG form!

[FX-GTZ]

He's back! In POG form!

Lol, alliance dont get one then?

[Second]

AFAIK, NE are just getting one more 60% mount to even things up.

[Sytadel]

Lol, ruda got banned.

The new patch looks awesome. Almost tempted to resub. I particularly like this change:

# The newest season of Arena gear can only be purchased if you meet the requirements with your 3 or 5 player team rating. Rating requirements from 2 player teams can still be used to purchase the previous season of gear.

I only wish that I had some friends still playing. If I went back now I'd be a nobody, except to a few hardcore elite who'd probably be willing to give me a go (but I don't really have the time anymore).

[Dunkurtin]

Lvl 80 get. Now to try and get some decent gear and start doing heroics i guess. Not sure if i should respec to a better tanking spec now, put off epic flying a bit longer and get dual spec or wait till i have some gold and gear then get dual spec.

[Sytadel]

Does it really matter what ferocity pet you use in raids (barring the exotic ones)? they've made all of them quite similar now but i'm wondering if there's one that kicks in that little bit more dps! I've got a wolf atm and they seem to be pretty swell.

I don't know these days to be honest, but unless you're really trying to squeeze everything you can out of your DPS, then a wolf is fine. If you do want to min/max there is probably a better pet. Back when I was playing, cats and raptors were optimal.

[Theiffy]

I don't know these days to be honest, but unless you're really trying to squeeze everything you can out of your DPS, then a wolf is fine. If you do want to min/max there is probably a better pet. Back when I was playing, cats and raptors were optimal.

I had a look at Elitist Jerks and according to them Devilsaurs are the best dps pet, wolves come in 2nd and then cats come in 3rd. I would have thought the other exotic ones would rate up there but apparently not >_>

I also dinged 80 and specced Survival. It's like the mage of hunters!! Explosive shot is like pyro when it comes to agro.

[Dunkurtin]

WTB someone we know dinging 80 on a healer pls.

[Theiffy]

I'm trying to convince Pete the advantages of dual speccing Shaanky to resto, but oh no he won't listen!

He will eventually!

[Dunkurtin]

Imo withhold certain privileges till he cracks. <_<

[Bob the Destroyer]

WTB someone we know dinging 80 on a healer pls.

Sadfase dunk. Maybe we should find a tank over the defence cap first!

[Dunkurtin]

That's why i said just dinging 80! So we could do runs for gear for heroics together first!

EDIT: Anyway, i should have gold for dual spec tonight/tomorrow then i will have a proper tanking spec. Looking up lvl 80 quest blues now for upgrades. And am going to start farming for those titansteel items. In the mean time keep me in mind for filling dps roles in heroics, that way i can scab any items the tank doesnt need. =]

[TSplodey]

About the hunter pet discussion. Raptors are the best DPS pet if you can actually keep your pet alive for the entire fight. Most current fights are highly pet unfriendly, and your average hunter will be seen with a wolf, as they can be keep at your side and give you their Howl buff without needing to go into suicidal territory on a boss.

We killed Yogg for our second time this week, and it was a great kill, only 3 attempts to take him down. I was especially happy because I got my first Fragment of Val'anyr (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45038) because our GM is away for a week. We also did 4 towers Flame Leviathan (after the nerf :(), and if anyones interested, this is our kill video (http://vimeo.com/5268144), from the POV of our MT. Ulduar is a great instance, Blizzard really did well. If anyone watches the FL video and likes it, theres a few of our normal boss kills up by our tank, links on the right side of the page, you can watch me die twice on Freya normal!

[Spazzallo]

Geez ret actually looks semi interesting now, and I like the battleground changes (20 MINUTE WSG FTW AND ABOUT ****ING TIME!). Not enough to sway me back yet though.. the 2vs2 nerf sucks.

[Dunkurtin]

Done a few heroics now. Even tanked one with wolf healing. Then picked up some gear in Oculus and am now over the def cap. Now to just keep collecting badges for epics.

[Theiffy]

So like Bob rolled need on some epic pants i wanted and won, accident roll etc, he made a ticket about said pants. Will i get my pants back? QQ This was in a heroic btw.

I think it's safe to say that 99% of boss encounters are DEFINITELY not pet friendly, unless you have like a druid or something for Wild Growth + your Mend Pet. That usually does the trick through the trickier times!

[TrinityJayOne]

Been playing Shaanky again...kinda got bored with him when I went from lowbie XP gain (*takes one step forward* DING) to Lv74 XP gain ("hooray another quest done!" *XP bar moves 1 pixel*), but since getting Lava Burst I've jumped up to Lv77. World PvP is killing me though (literally), I'm lucky if I get a single cast off because I'm always CC'd. Decided to get some honor to grab me a PvP trinket and now I wish I had've tried the newer BGs earlier. EotS is fun, although a bit of a zergfest at times. SotA is fantastic although the gates should be a bit tougher I think, and people who use the demolishers to kill players need to l2p. Hopefully the Lv80 bracket isn't as dead as Lv70-79.

[Northy179]

That's why i said just dinging 80! So we could do runs for gear for heroics together first!

EDIT: Anyway, i should have gold for dual spec tonight/tomorrow then i will have a proper tanking spec. Looking up lvl 80 quest blues now for upgrades. And am going to start farming for those titansteel items. In the mean time keep me in mind for filling dps roles in heroics, that way i can scab any items the tank doesnt need. =]

im kind of over running heroics until the next patch, now that we know the emblems are going to be useless.

# Both the 10 and 25 player instances of the Crusaders' Coliseum drop a new Emblem of Triumph.
# Any dungeons that previously dropped Emblems of Heroism or Valor, such as Naxxramas or Heroic Halls of Stone, will now drop Emblems of Conquest instead. Emblems of Conquest can still be converted to Valor or Heroism.
# The heroic dungeon daily quest will now reward 2 Emblems of Triumph and the normal daily dungeon quest will reward 1 Emblem of Triumph.
# The existing achievements to collect 1, 25, 50, etc. Emblems of Heroism, Valor, and Conquest have been converted to Feats of Strength since Heroism and Valor Emblems are no longer attainable.

but hey, atleast the emblems of heroism are still good for heirloom gear

[bulkerking]

Looks like i need to log in to check my marks etc....
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[Theiffy]

New emblems means i'm playing my Pally and Priest again! Before patch goes live i'm going to buy stuff with the old ones hurrr

[Sytadel]

Been playing Shaanky again...kinda got bored with him when I went from lowbie XP gain (*takes one step forward* DING) to Lv74 XP gain ("hooray another quest done!" *XP bar moves 1 pixel*), but since getting Lava Burst I've jumped up to Lv77. World PvP is killing me though (literally), I'm lucky if I get a single cast off because I'm always CC'd. Decided to get some honor to grab me a PvP trinket and now I wish I had've tried the newer BGs earlier. EotS is fun, although a bit of a zergfest at times. SotA is fantastic although the gates should be a bit tougher I think, and people who use the demolishers to kill players need to l2p. Hopefully the Lv80 bracket isn't as dead as Lv70-79.

It's not, games are super frequent. SoTA is a lot of fun, probably my favourite BG.

Urge to resub RISING.

[Araenel]

Wolf has already succumbed. You crazy kids.

[Spudzilla]

I can't believe I'm thinking abut playing this again. I tried installing it on a crappy laptop and thank god it refused to install due to a lack of RAM.

[Dunkurtin]

Tanked for my first PUG Heroic. Only UK so not too difficult. No deaths, everyone reckoned i was great.

[Theiffy]

see all you needed was a bit of gear and experience!

[Northy179]

Urge to resub RISING.

you mention it every post, just bloody do it already! lol

[NetherWind]

Sad thing is Heroics are only challenging for a tank on the first run through, after that they became very sad and easy. Even with healers who were not geared for heroics it was easy to do.

[FX-GTZ]

It's not, games are super frequent. SoTA is a lot of fun, probably my favourite BG.

Urge to resub RISING.

I'll mail you an unopened, unscratched, game card.

[TrinityJayOne]

I'll mail you an unopened, unscratched, game card.
Dude that's not fast enough!! Scratch it yourself and email the code to him, his email is trinityjayone@iinet.net.au

[Northy179]

I really should level my tailoring those last few points to 450, some rather nice stuff to be made in next patch

http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/june/patch32_10026_2.jpg

[bulkerking]

I want that chest piece :)

Cost around 1k gold on AH ?
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[StorminNorman]

Dear Curse and WoWInterface:

**** you.

Regards, the entire add-on using playerbase of WoW.

[Dunkurtin]

What?

[NetherWind]

Nice tailoring item, wonder if they will make it mage only by the time it is released.

[Northy179]

Dear Curse and WoWInterface:

**** you.

Regards, the entire add-on using playerbase of WoW.

what happend?

[Bob the Destroyer]

They've blocked auto updaters like WoWMatrix from accessing their database forcing alot of people to go with Curse Client (basically the same but you need to buy an account to update all your addons at once, no adds and lames crap like that)

In Bob related news: first piece of 8.5 last night, the hat from Thorim

[StorminNorman]

Curse is pretty much the biggest piece-of-shit website on the internet, so being forced to use it by the people who make WoWAce is basically like them saying they don't give a crap about anyone who plays WoW and that they're really only in it for the money.

Not to mention that charging money for addons violates Blizzard's Addon Policy.

[Northy179]

Not to mention that charging money for addons violates Blizzard's Addon Policy.

they probably should have specified more clearly to the extent of charging for the hosting and delivery of addons. This sucks.

[Pauly]

Urge to resub RISING.
i knew it wouldn't last long!

[tau]

Urge to resub NONEXISTANT.

[Theiffy]

D: Hyper's back

[bulkerking]

D: Hyper's back

Yeah I miss this place also...

In WoW news not really playing much these days I wait until there's something to get me back into it... It was fun to play and level again but it just seems like work to me now and that's when I give it a rest...

Also just done ZG to do all my classic raids...
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[ElPresidente]

Something for you iPhone owning WoWers out there.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~elpresidente/wowarmory.jpg

The World of Warcraft Armory is now available from your iPhone and includes all the functionality from the website. Enjoy.

(nope, still not playing the game... just thought y'all like to know :P)

[Silverwolf]

Something for you iPhone owning WoWers out there.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~elpresidente/wowarmory.jpg

The World of Warcraft Armory is now available from your iPhone and includes all the functionality from the website. Enjoy.

(nope, still not playing the game... just thought y'all like to know :P)

I vow to NEVER use this.

Wolf has already succumbed. You crazy kids.
This is only because of the ridiculous amount of time I have free!

What I want most is a kinda serious arena team, but good luck finding a decent player these days~

[Spazzallo]

Meh it saves you from alt-tabbing to armory people I suppose.

[Silverwolf]

That is why I have two monitors.
I also have my laptop.
I have no use for this ridiculous app!

[Theiffy]

Wolf and i have been playing loot sponge in raids, and now we are fairly geared so now we have a new loot sponge! (hint it's a nub shaman that isn't wolfs one keke)

[ElPresidente]

Can someone explain why this application is ridiculous?

Hell... I'd love to be able to mess around with Conan builds while on the tram into the city, etc.

[Theiffy]

I wouldn't say it's rubbish, but it's for epeening purposes more than anything else. There's far better websites for builds and general gear building than wowarmory.

[Bob the Destroyer]

Yeah, iPhones arent a replacement for computers.


yet....

[Theiffy]

Yeah, iPhones arent a replacement for computers.


yet....

haha, too true!

[TrinityJayOne]

People need to remember that anyone with an iPhone is also very likely going to have Net access on said iPhone, so it has its uses.

[FX-GTZ]

I dont quite understand this trinket, does it have a chance to proc off of melee damage, or just crits?

Mirror of Truth
Binds when picked up
Unique
Trinket
Requires Level 80
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 84 (1.8% at 80). (http://thottbot.com/r21)
Equip: Chance on melee and ranged critical strike to increase your attack power by 1000 for 10 secs. (http://thottbot.com/s33648)

[Dunkurtin]

Pretty sure it's just crits.

So 3 weeks, DK is still pretty scrub, got a few epics, not much worth mentioning except maybe the titansteel destroyer. Basicly nothing has changed.

[Theiffy]

What did i tell you about joining random raids? >_> It works! This is the main reason why my hunter is covered in 25 man gear!!

[FX-GTZ]

But when i tried mirror of truth on the target dummies in org for the 2 hour refund duration, it only proc'd around 4 times. I had only used it for 30 minutes though, i went through well over 50 crits, with a crit chance of 24%

[Dunkurtin]

Chance on crit, it may only have a 5% chance. 4 procs in that time makes it obvious that it does not proc off of non crit melee.

[Spudzilla]

The urge to play again is rising.

[Sytadel]

I've decided to let myself resub when my thesis is done, in a few months.

[Spudzilla]

I'll probably do the same once I get a computer capable of playing it.

[Second]

I'll probably do the same once I get a computer capable of playing it.

OH dear lord. NO, SPUD.

[Spudzilla]

This probably won't happen for MONTHS

[Silverwolf]

But when i tried mirror of truth on the target dummies in org for the 2 hour refund duration, it only proc'd around 4 times. I had only used it for 30 minutes though, i went through well over 50 crits, with a crit chance of 24%

All trinkets with proc effects like Mirror of Truth have an Internal Cooldown, for the majority of trinkets it is 30 seconds, but sometimes it takes much longer between.
It only procs when you do a melee or ranged crit. Chance for it to proc is 10%.

Trinket I currently want is the Greatness card, unfortunately it is selling for about 6k (cheapest AGI one is 7,5k on AH).
Sure, I've collected almost 10k gold now, but it was selling for 5k a week or two ago. Plus theres a very good ring I intend to buy which sells for 5-6k as well..
I'm still getting over how many good BoE epics there are, quite a few are even best in slot items, it's all about the gold now.

[Sytadel]

According to mmo-champion, the new races in the game are goblins and worgen. No, really.

http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/july/newraces.jpg

Feels like they're really scraping the barrel here. I mean, WoW now has a furry. As if I needed any other reason to never play Alliance.

[FX-GTZ]

is that just bs or really coming out? link me to this article, please.

[Spudzilla]

I'd rather play as a Wisp

[Pauly]

i think pandaren are more likely than worgen.

[Sytadel]

is that just bs or really coming out? link me to this article, please.

Link. (http://www.mmo-champion.com/)

Not confirmed by Blizzard, but good reason to believe that may be the case.

[FX-GTZ]

Well i guess until you see an actual development of the goblin or worgen wireframe models, it's all missleading info, just hallowed masks for now.

[Pauly]

Well i guess until you see an actual development of the goblin or worgen wireframe models, it's all missleading info, just hallowed masks for now.
you do realise they're already in the game, right?

[FX-GTZ]

you do realise they're already in the game, right?
I know that, but it would be nice to see both goblin's remade, add a few more hairstyles, eye color, different mouths. The only time i've seen them move under my control was through my priests mind control.

[Spudzilla]

I'm pretty sure those will implemented if they go ahead.

Horde T9 Mage gear looks sweet, but it's not like I'll ever get around to wearing any of it.

[FX-GTZ]

and not to mention who will voice act the goblin's, and will the worgen voice even be understandable in the slightest way?

Im not saying i wouldnt want to see this in WoW, but it just seems a bit complicated to pull off and not look like a half finished design.

[Second]

It's also a lot to base on the use of MASKS!

[Theiffy]

According to mmo-champion, the new races in the game are goblins and worgen. No, really.

http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/july/newraces.jpg

Feels like they're really scraping the barrel here. I mean, WoW now has a furry. As if I needed any other reason to never play Alliance.

Taurens are furry!

[Dunkurtin]

Personally i think I'd prefer it if they didn't make goblins playable.

Anywho, finally getting somewhere with my gear. Managed to tank heroic Halls of Lightning today. Still haven't had any luck with epic drops though, all mine are rep, crafted or badge. Only 2 epic drops I've ever got were ones no one needed, a shield and piece of cloth. =[

[Second]

Hmm. They've already mentioned that (paid) faction swapping will be in later. I could see the possibilty of the new races (if they are even being included) being neutral and having to pic a side, mayhaps? *rubs chin*

[JubeiSaotome]

If anything, they will add High Elves, because WoW doesn't have enough elves.

[Spudzilla]

Another group of elves for me to target.

[FX-GTZ]

If anything, they will add High Elves, because WoW doesn't have enough elves.

Actually if you read some of the warcraft lore that isnt based around Arthas, there may be a few clue's as to what the new race may end up being.

[Spudzilla]

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[FX-GTZ]

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...which is?

I dunno, but feel free to find out for yourself http://www.wowwiki.com/Lore

[Spudzilla]

Sorry, it's just that it looked like you knew what you were talking about for once. My mistake.

[Theiffy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/Theiffy/WoWScrnShot_071809_213944.jpg

Someone decided to write a message in Orgrimmar in dead female trolls, probably in relation to Wintergrasp being absolutely ****ed >_>

[FX-GTZ]

Spambots are doing it already

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5255/wowscrnshot071409095238.jpg

[Theiffy]

Geeeeez, that one has a bit more effort in it!

That mace looks like good ole [Finkles Lava Dredger] xD

[StorminNorman]

It's an exploit in WoW that apparently Blizzard still haven't fixed.

[tau]

How can you stop an exploit that makes dead bodies form words?

[FX-GTZ]

How can you stop an exploit that makes dead bodies form words?
Two ways,

* If you log out after forcefully letting your toon die, you get resurrected at the nearest graveyard.
* Prohibit level 1 toons from entering any capital city with an invisible forcefield, therefore making bank toons have to level 2 or 3 levels to enter, it would also stop alot of that trade advertising spam too.

but the chance's of blizzard reading this topic is unlikely, so i'd doubt either of these suggestions would be considered.

[Silverwolf]

First suggestion makes sense, but whether its actually possible is another thing.
Your second suggestion is just silly.

[Sytadel]

Haha, FX owned tau.

You should post them in the suggestions forum FX. I don't think the second idea is silly - you could even have an "access to Orgrimmar" chain at Lv.8 or whatever; blend it in with the lore. For real players it would be no hassle to spend two hours levelling a bank, but it'd cut out the farmers for sure (as well as cross-faction spammers, flooders from other servers, and so on).

[FX-GTZ]

well i suppose blizzard could always just do this:

* :-Spam bot try's to enter city...
Then the following bold yellow letters pop up in the middle of the screen saying:
- TRIAL ACCOUNTS ARENT PERMITTED TO ENTER CAPITAL CITIES.

have a nice day.

Also i used orange instead, yellow is just a strain on the eyes (in forums anyway)

[Sytadel]

Hm, no I think trial accounts need to be able to enter capital cities. First walking in to Orgrimmar was a pretty epic point for me, I imagine it'd be a big seller for trial accounts.

[FX-GTZ]

Okay...

*Trial accounts below level 5 may not enter.

[Spudzilla]

Hm, no I think trial accounts need to be able to enter capital cities. First walking in to Orgrimmar was a pretty epic point for me, I imagine it'd be a big seller for trial accounts.

When I first played WoW and walked into Stormwind I was pretty impressed. Then I realised my error and switched to Horde.

[FX-GTZ]

When I first played WoW and walked into Stormwind I was pretty impressed. Then I realised my error and switched to Horde.

Other than the uplifting music in Stormwind, nothing else including the incredibly mature trade chat will keep you there, It's probably why my huamn shadow priest is under combat log when i enter alliance capitals too.

[Spudzilla]

Anal [Attack] .

[StorminNorman]

/leave 2 is basically the first thing I type when I take a new character into a city for the first time.

Oh for the days of city-specific trade channels...

Also, the exploit I'm thinking of involves using hacked clients to send specific data to the server. The bodies all appear in the sky and fall to the ground simultaneously.

[tau]

Haha, FX owned tau.


brb hospital.

srs business!

[JubeiSaotome]

Horde, Alliance, both sides are full of morons. That's why you join a guild of like minded players.

[Dirkage]

who turn out to be morons

[JubeiSaotome]

For me, that's actually the truth, about to leave a work friends guild, because it's pretty shit.

[Silverwolf]

/leave 2 is basically the first thing I type when I take a new character into a city for the first time.

Oh for the days of city-specific trade channels...

To be honest, they just need to bring back gamewide LFG channel, /4 was the best.
Now /2 is home to Guild spam, LFG spam, WTB/WTS spam, and people trolling/being trolled. It's a mess.

[Dunkurtin]

Got into 25 man Naxx with Theiffy's guild tonight. Cleaned up 4 epics. ^_^
Burdened Shoulderplates (http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=40334), Undiminished Battleplate (http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=39767), Sabatons of Sudden Reprisal (http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=39706) and Ruthlessness (http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=40075).

Also got Titanium Impact Band (http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=42642), Titanium Earthguard Ring (http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=42643) and Bracers of Dalaran's Parapets (http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=40734) earlier today.

Armory here : http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostmourne&n=Silhouettic

[Theiffy]

It's also Bob's guild!

Um, pally also got some items too, w/e.

[Second]

To be honest, they just need to bring back gamewide LFG channel, /4 was the best.
Now /2 is home to Guild spam, LFG spam, WTB/WTS spam, and people trolling/being trolled. It's a mess.

I miss global. Sometimes there's some awesome stuff going on in Trade and I don't want to leave the capital cities. :P

[Ad-Rock]

Woo Hoo! I finally broke the hold this game has over me!

[Silverwolf]

Woo Hoo! I finally broke the hold this game has over me!

It's not hard.

[NetherWind]

trying to break a ice or acid habit would be harder

[Theiffy]

I was thinking to myself we should try and get a ULD10 group together, i mean we have a fair few numbers and people geared for it.

- Me! (spriest, surv hunter or prot/holy paladin)
- Wolf (combat rogue or resto shaman)
- Pete ( ele shaman or resto druid)
- Dirkington (prot pally)
- Des (every type of shaman)
- Bob (holy/ret paladin or prot/fury warrior)

If we can get 4 other good players along, then it will be easy as pie.

EDIT: Gear up Dunk and you can come too!

[Silverwolf]

Coolz will come too, Disc/Shadow priest.
Of course Dunkurtin can come.

I was thinking about this too.
Dirkage as MT, Dunk as OT.
I'm assuming trin would much rather his ele shaman, so Coolz + Deso/Bob healing.
Then filling DPS roles is fairly easy, as long as they are competent.

Hardest part of course, is finding a time everyone can play!

[Dunkurtin]

If we can work out a time im happy to give it a shot. Worst that can happen is large repair bills (OH NOES) and a bit of frustration for some of you who have done it before.

On the subject of raiding, did anyone in your guild mention if they'd consider me for filling spots again in naxx theiffy? >_>

[Theiffy]

I haven't really spoken to anyone, did you ask the people i mentioned to ask (lol) for a ginvite of some sort? :P

[JubeiSaotome]

So, I made a separate twitter for tweetcraft (http://tweetcraft.codeplex.com/);
http://twitter.com/JubeiSaotomeWoW

Will be more interesting come 3.2.0 when I start a BG only levelling character with a group of friends. It'll auto-tweet any screenshots I take, instances entered (may change this if its a spamfest) and achievements I gain.

[Dunkurtin]

I haven't really spoken to anyone, did you ask the people i mentioned to ask (lol) for a ginvite of some sort? :P

Nah, i didn't want to come off as if i was making assumptions. Raiding with a guild doesn't mean automatic entry. >_>
Might see if they'll let me in again then ask after that.

[Theiffy]

one downside to dual spec:

most of the time i get asked to go holy (on pally) cause healers are short at the moment but my main spec is prot and make this quite clear, yet i still have raid leaders kicking me out cause i said im rolling on prot gear.

they use "what you come in as, is what you get" stupid logic. well i would have liked to come in as prot, but i didn't have a ****ing choice in the matter ><

[Spudzilla]

Another reason why life as a Mage is much easier.

[Silverwolf]

one downside to dual spec:

most of the time i get asked to go holy (on pally) cause healers are short at the moment but my main spec is prot and make this quite clear, yet i still have raid leaders kicking me out cause i said im rolling on prot gear.

they use "what you come in as, is what you get" stupid logic. well i would have liked to come in as prot, but i didn't have a ****ing choice in the matter ><

Its easy enough to just say "although im healing, i wish to roll on prot loot"
If they say no, **** 'em.

[Spudzilla]

I used to get worried rolling on things I didn't really need that much. "Ooooh what if it gets around that I'm a ninja? They have the wrong idea!" but not long after that I would just Need roll on a bunch of shit someone needed if they were a dick.

[Theiffy]

Its easy enough to just say "although im healing, i wish to roll on prot loot"
If they say no, **** 'em.

i always say that, but 99% of groups wont accept it, it's so ****ing stupid!

i'm not a fan of holy at all, but im willing to go holy if needed so i can progress.

[Theiffy]

on that note, this is why i like my hunter so much. because it's just so uncomplicated! going heals on priest or paladin is certain loot death for me (moreso for paladin)

[Silverwolf]

I've respecced Nubfase to elemental PvP now, gonna learn how to do 5v5 with him, and hopefully get good.

Which kinda ruins my plans to focus on Kyreen's PvE and PvP sets, since I don't have the time or motivation for both characters. So I guess its just rogue for PvE, shaman for PvP for now.

[Silverwolf]

I've respecced Nubfase to elemental PvP now, gonna learn how to do 5v5 with him, and hopefully get good.

Which kinda ruins my plans to focus on Kyreen's PvE and PvP sets, since I don't have the time or motivation for both characters. So I guess its just rogue for PvE, shaman for PvP for now.

Actually, screw this, i'm just gonna play my rogue.

[StorminNorman]

]Sam Raimi to direct Warcraft movie. (http://kotaku.com/5319972/youll-never-guess-whos-directing-warcraft-flick-[update)

[Sytadel]

on that note, this is why i like my hunter so much. because it's just so uncomplicated! going heals on priest or paladin is certain loot death for me (moreso for paladin)

I used to have loot dramas when I wanted druid staves :P

[Silverwolf]

I used to have loot dramas when I wanted druid staves :P

Staves get disenchanted so much now.

[Theiffy]

lol i have a stave currently on my hunter from naxx25, no one complained <_<

[JubeiSaotome]

Did my first 2 heroics today, they don't seem, that much harder than a regular dungeon.

[Silverwolf]

Did my first 2 heroics today, they don't seem, that much harder than a regular dungeon.

How long have you been 80? Also, which heroics? Some are massive pains in the arse (eg, HoL, or Skadi in UP)

[CoolzInferno]

How long have you been 80? Also, which heroics? Some are massive pains in the arse (eg, HoL, or Skadi in UP)

Skadi caused me many a weepy eyed tear. Like the amount of times we'd clear up to him, fire harpoons and Skadi would focus me since the tank was slow on the uptake (usually two-shotting me) was just painful. When we did manage to beat him, I got two shotted again and I think a Balance Druid took over healing duties for the entire fricken fight.

[Queenie]

HoL is bitchingly easy with a decent healer.

that's right I stand in the fire and burn him! It's been a while though.

I did not like trying to get the skadi achievement though, but I'll say that I had a much harder time doing trollgore's.

[Ad-Rock]

The Oculus is by far the worst heroic. Actually I'd say it's the worst instance I've ever done.

[StorminNorman]

It's only hard because the final boss fight doesn't scale with gear.

I agree that it's a terrible instance, though.

[Ad-Rock]

It's only hard because the final boss fight doesn't scale with gear.

I agree that it's a terrible instance, though.

I don't really have a problem with the last boss per se, its the whole flying thing that annoys me.

[Silverwolf]

Yeah I forgot to mention that The Occulus sucks. That's another bitch of an instance. At least they tried something different though!

[Theiffy]

Hard is good!

I hate tanking Skadi on heroic, and the tribunal of ages in HOS :< Everything else was pretty easy for me

[Dunkurtin]

That reminds me, picked up Tier 8 tanking gloves in VoA last night!

Oh and Anub'arak can be a pain in the ass on heroic if your dps doesn't know what theyre doing.

[Theiffy]

you bastard i have like no pieces of tier 8, i have lots of 7.5 though on huntard, it's so plain looking..

i spose it's better than paladin tier 7.5 T_T

[Silverwolf]

That reminds me, picked up Tier 8 tanking gloves in VoA last night!

Oh and Anub'arak can be a pain in the ass on heroic if your dps doesn't know what theyre doing.

At least your group has no way of quickly killing themselves, anub'arak isn't really hard, it can just take much too long.

[JubeiSaotome]

Hard is good!

I hate tanking Skadi on heroic, and the tribunal of ages in HOS :< Everything else was pretty easy for me

One of the people I play with was all OH LETS GLITCH IT, proceeds to get us all killed by 50 vrykul.

[Queenie]

I've finally gotten down to playing dragonblight (that is, do all quests). It's good to see angrathar cutscene with some story behind it. Kinda let down by storming of the undercity though. I was hoping there'd be like, craploads of npc soldiers and whatnot.

[Pauly]

]Sam Raimi to direct Warcraft movie. (http://kotaku.com/5319972/youll-never-guess-whos-directing-warcraft-flick-[update)
sam raimi to direct wow movie lolz. can't wait.

[JubeiSaotome]

Thrall fringe flick incoming.

[Theiffy]

Did Yogg Saron tonight, was quite the interesting fight and not too difficult for me to do. He's no old school C'thun thats for sure! :P

[TSplodey]

10 or 25 Theiffy? 10 is fairly tame, but yeah its not hugely difficult in 25man if you have all 4 keepers helping.

[Theiffy]

25 man version, haven't done 10 man yoggy just yet :P

[Theiffy]

essshhhh whats with the wanker pallies and holding onto lvl 70 gear when they hit 80 >_>

[JubeiSaotome]

It's all 70 raiders, really.

OH NOES IF I GET RID OF THEM I WONT LOOK AS COOL AND MY TIME WAS WASTED!!

[Theiffy]

I think it's more of a Retardin thing

[Dunkurtin]

Due to the massive backlog of games i have atm, and the fact i keep buying more, i'm considering making every Tuesday a WoWless night regardless of the length of maintenance. =\

[StorminNorman]

I took advantage of last night's lack of mainenance to hit level 80 on my rogue. Now I have 3 80s. :/

[FX-GTZ]

A small tip for those doing Among the Champions (http://thottbot.com/q13811), duel 8 factions with full bags, if you dont have full bags, just buy some Blacksmith Hammer's to fill them up, and when you log in the next day, you got 4 convenient marks in your mailbox. (plus the 4 marks for the current daily)
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/5800/wowscrnshot072909190928.jpg

[TrinityJayOne]

Aside from not having to do the duels, what does that actually achieve?

[FX-GTZ]

Aside from not having to do the duels, what does that actually achieve?
Well, all it does is save you from having to do duels for that day.

[Queenie]

i really have to go get me some welfare epics from that argent tournament. yep, I'm gonna have a nice big session tonight :)

[GT_Racer]

Just in case anyone is wondering why they never see me in game anymore it's because I quit a couple of months ago. Still haven't decided what to do with my account.

[Second]

Just in case anyone is wondering why they never see me in game anymore it's because I quit a couple of months ago. Still haven't decided what to do with my account.

... So many wasted characters!

[Sytadel]

... So many wasted characters!

You're telling me. Maynard is awesome.

[Silverwolf]

Nobody has anything on Nubfase.

So I joined shida's alt Ulduar run (starring smudgey) tonight, and got myself a wicked new mainhand sword. only one blue left to replace. If only people would sell their Surge Needle Rings.

Wicked new weps are : http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45266 MH, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40491 OH
Sweet new trinket is: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44253, cost me less than 5k for all the cards, patience is a virtue.

Unfortunately my GM's rogue alt got 2pc t8, which means I'm still not going to beat his dps =(

Obligatory pic of new awesome weapons. Hailstorm is a really cool looking sword.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/omgwolfeh/WoWScrnShot_080409_005004.jpg

[Theiffy]

yay wolfy! im still using weapons from naxx, but next ulduar25 run i'm prolly first on the list for an upgrade.

i do have 2 pieces of tier8.5 and some helm from there, but the tier pieces are gloves and pants so they don't look that great to show off :P

[Second]

Too bad you still look shit, because you're forsaken.

[Silverwolf]

Too bad you still look shit, because you're forsaken.

Undead is the best race, along with Trolls.

[FX-GTZ]

Undead is the best race, along with Trolls.
stfu orc chicks are the bomb, much better than those stuck up bitchface blood elve whores. ****ing hate those bitches.

[Second]

Undead is the best race, along with Trolls.

I'm sorry mate, but your opinion is wrong.

[Spudzilla]

stfu orc chicks are the bomb, much better than those stuck up bitchface blood elve whores. ****ing hate those bitches.

Sure, if you're into green, bald, muscle clad 'females' with massive underbites whose dialogue sounds like it was delivered by an angry East German woman with a huge hangover.

[Second]

Sure, if you're into green, bald, muscle clad 'females' with massive underbites whose dialogue sounds like it was delivered by an angry East German woman with a huge hangover.

It's my fetish.

[FX-GTZ]

Sure, if you're into green, bald, muscle clad 'females' with massive underbites whose dialogue sounds like it was delivered by an angry East German woman with a huge hangover.
Pffft, at least they have underwear like night elves... Trust me, i've compared next to a night elf..

[Spudzilla]

Oh geez, you got me there.

[Theiffy]

lol tbh i kinda agree with FX even though like 2 of my 80's are blood elf. female blood elves are common as **** now, and every 14 year old wap idiot rolls them. if i had known female belfs were going to be so common i prolly would roll differently

i'm not much of a fan of female orcs either, but at least not every female race in the game are portrayed to be skanky and some object for guys to fap over or whatever

[Spudzilla]

I can't believe what I'm reading!

[Second]

I'm not a fan of any of the females... but the Orc Casting animation was a nice change for Rudora for a while.

[Theiffy]

lol they look funny when they cast

i really think blizz need to update the other models, so that blood elves and draenei don't look too good in comparison ;P

[FX-GTZ]

If you want your blood elf slightly less whorish looking just give her a bangs haircut, **** it, i gave all my blood elf shits that style.

and what the **** is up with the blood elf male /silly "dont you wish your GIRLFRIEND (oh i caps'd with shift).. was hot like me", hes a ****ing dude! ****ing fag!

[Silverwolf]

Sure, if you're into green, bald, muscle clad 'females' with massive underbites whose dialogue sounds like it was delivered by an angry East German woman with a huge hangover.

This is FX you're talking about.

Trolls are best, mon.
Undead are awesome because they don't give a shit about the other races, and they mosh when they /dance.

[Spudzilla]

If you want your blood elf slightly less whorish looking just give her a bangs haircut, **** it, i gave all my blood elf shits that style.

and what the **** is up with the blood elf male /silly "dont you wish your GIRLFRIEND (oh i caps'd with shift).. was hot like me", hes a ****ing dude! ****ing fag!

Reported.

[Spudzilla]

FX, please calm down.

[FX-GTZ]

*checking inbox* hurry up shorty.

[FrozenSoul80]

Everybody calm the **** down. I feel dirty just looking at this thread.

[FX-GTZ]

im logging off anyway.

[Second]

clam down

[TrinityJayOne]

Female Orcs are awesome, end of discussion.

[Spudzilla]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/SpeedFighter/Stuff/1249355764131.jpg

[Pauly]

female gnome > all

[Silverwolf]

Patch days and the week after them are always ****ing awful.
NOW I HAVE TO REGEM MY ITEMS OH MY GOD RAGE

[Theiffy]

Patch days and the week after them are always ****ing awful.
NOW I HAVE TO REGEM MY ITEMS OH MY GOD RAGE

^ this :P

[Queenie]

On the subject of everyone and their dogs rolling belf chicks, when a couple of my friends resub (with new accs for the xp bonus (screw that I'm keeping my 80 and a steady cash flow)) one of the parties was supposed to be an all-female belf rogue thing. oh, btw, 3, with me 4 ppls.

I don't want to be a female belf rogue. I want to be an undead rogue. They aren't happy. Besides there aren't any bonuses to being a female belf rogue except dancing naked at the AH for money early on...

At the very least I want to roll a male belf rogue so he can be their pimp.

[Dunkurtin]

Just when i had mys spcs perfect they go and change talents. ******s.

[Theiffy]

undead don't really have any racials that are beneficial either. both have something for pvp but that's about it :P

[StorminNorman]

NElf chicks represent, yo!

Hey, at least my racial bonuses benefit my class!

I pine for Diplomacy, though. Most OP racial in the game.

[FX-GTZ]

The Twink’s Savior, Behsten and Slahtz (http://twinkinfo.com/2009/06/the-twinks-savior-behsten-and-slahtz/)

June 18, 2009 - Author: Drayner http://twinkinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/behsten-thumb.jpg (http://twinkinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/behsten.jpg)
So, a little overload of info today, but for good reason. Sure, i’m a little miffed about 20 minute thing, but this little thing that Xirik noted in this post (http://twinkinfo.com/2009/06/xp-is-coming-to-battleground-near-you-but/#comments) lightens the day up some. Blizzard is a sneaky one eh? This is too funny not to make a separate post about it. Sure, it’s trivial, but it’s funny as hell.For those that would like to opt out of gaining experience while in the battleground, you will be able to visit Behsten in Stormwind or Slahtz in Orgrimmar – both located near the battlemasters in either city – and turn off all experience accumulation for the cost of 10 gold.
Anyone else notice the names of the guys you pay for no experience?
Behsten
Slahtz
Best In Slots
Blizzy poking fun at twinks.

[Second]

"legitimizing", moreso than "poking fun at", methinks.At least the twinks play with other twinks only.

[Silverwolf]

I just did a full naxx10 run in about 1 hour and 30 minutes for badges, did top dps on most fights.
Rogues are awesome.
I just need to get a group to farm up heroics now!

[FX-GTZ]

Use only if your sick of cartoony visual's and want realism and other junk added to your WoW....

V0ycqm491qg
I think it would work with other games such as Counter Strike and Spore, TF2, it's just a matter of putting the files in the right place under your game.

By the way, get lots of ram, otherwise your framerate is constantly gonna suck.

[Pauly]

my eyes might suck, but all that seems to do is add intense lighting...

[FX-GTZ]

yes, but its all fully customisable settings, so convert it from dark settings to whatever you like.

[Spudzilla]

Use only if your sick of cartoony visual's and want realism and other junk added to your WoW....

V0ycqm491qg
I think it would work with other games such as Counter Strike and Spore, TF2, it's just a matter of putting the files in the right place under your game.

By the way, get lots of ram, otherwise your framerate is constantly gonna suck.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5791/1224507407239.jpg

'Gee, sure is bloomy around here!'

[StorminNorman]

"Two hour maintenance".

/wrists

IT'S THURSDAY DAMMIT BLIZZ.

[FX-GTZ]

I'll admit there is one thing terrible about this visual enhancing mod, it is a pain to get a screenshot of your toon in under the mods effects. Sooo after giving up on using WoW's ingame screenshotting, i just decided on a desktop screenshot program (which actually worked in the game) and grabbed the screenshots through that instead...


Here's the before and after in the same picture, top picture is before, bottom is after.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6480/newbitmapimage4h.png
by the way, im only so bright in that screenshot because of the sun facing in my direction.



'Gee, sure is bloomy around here!'

[Pauly]

i think the reason wow's engine still works even after all these years is that it's not trying to be realistic. i don't really understand the point of adding harsh lighting to a cartoony looking game. it looks the exact same except everything is a bit harder to see...

[FX-GTZ]

Half of the reason i was searching for this mod was to remove some of the cartoony from my gaming session's on WoW, i've been playing with the exact same visuals (other than blizzards own visual enhancements over time through patches) for well over 3 years, and it all just started to feel Nintendo 64ish, Banjo Tooie style, yeah i know, fanboy post, i said Nintendo 64 in a WoW thread. Big deal, it's not as though i completely wiped away all of the cartoony through some tiny little mod, alot of it is still there regardless of how many change's i could do. Or want to do for that matter.

[CoolzInferno]

Here's the before and after in the same picture, top picture is before, bottom is after.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6480/newbitmapimage4h.png
by the way, im only so bright in that screenshot because of the sun facing in my direction.

Perhaps I'm not enough of a graphic whore afficionado to really 'get' the appeal of the graphic mod but personally to me, the after shot just looks the same as first with poorer lighting. To me it's like an inversed Jenny Craig Before/After shot with the Before actually being the one where the picture is shot with the person not looking sullen and with decent lighting.

[Silverwolf]

That isnt 'realism'. Thats just everything turned slightly greyer, and X-TREME Bloom everywhere.

[JubeiSaotome]

That looks terrible.

[Ad-Rock]

Agreed^
Been playing only a few hours a week lately. This new patch has got me a little interested again. Pissed off at the DK tanking nerf. Looking forward to using the new dual wielding talents though.

I really need to get my rogue/pally/mage to 80. I'm pretty sick of my DK.

[Pauly]

Half of the reason i was searching for this mod was to remove some of the cartoony from my gaming session's on WoW, i've been playing with the exact same visuals (other than blizzards own visual enhancements over time through patches) for well over 3 years, and it all just started to feel Nintendo 64ish, Banjo Tooie style, yeah i know, fanboy post, i said Nintendo 64 in a WoW thread. Big deal, it's not as though i completely wiped away all of the cartoony through some tiny little mod, alot of it is still there regardless of how many change's i could do. Or want to do for that matter.
the problem with that particular mod is that it doesn't make things less cartoony... but i guess when everything is hard to see you see less cartoon :rolleyes:

[FX-GTZ]

Okay okay, maybe i picked a terrible zone to do an example in, but it's not always high pitched bloomy brightness...

before and after again..http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6828/wowscrnshot080709110603.jpg


After: Using darkwow
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1307/darkwowmod.png
As you can see, the sun, clouds, and sky effects has the most dramatic effects on how your character will appear in the brightness on the ground.

[Second]

People start to leave you alone, so what do you do? You act as dumb as possible. Do you crave the negative attention?

[Pauly]

hey, leave him alone. ohwait, it might get worse!

[StorminNorman]

If you want Guild Wars graphics, you know where to find them.

Blizzard are more likely to update character models and armour textures rather than the game's perfectly serviceable fake-pretend HDR lighting setup. We'll see properly bump-mapped armour before we see true HDR lighting.

[Ashmaran]

I tried it out for a bit of fun. The settings ini they supplied that matched my video card looked almost identical to the game already with the addition of some minor framerate issues. I swapped it for the default ini file, and got the very over the top difference you notice in the youtube videos.

Somewhere inbetween would be interesting because it does change the tone of the game, although a lot of the detail is simply covered by the AO. At least things like this exist for people who can't handle the art style in Diablo 3 ;)

[bulkerking]

Never did like the "Ring of light" in Diablo. I hope they have both for people who want it in/out. As far as WoW is concerned they look fine to me.
________
GIRLSVERYHORNY (http://www.girlcamfriend.com/cam/GIRLSVERYHORNY/)

[FX-GTZ]

Ash if you get a chance to modify the ini file again, set BloomAllowOversaturation=0 as that. The sun wont make you seem like as much of a vampire once you got it off. Im glad i fixed this up myself too, got quite annoying having a pure white screen when flying.

[Queenie]

well the new best tanking sword in the game is thus :

Look at the beastly dps.

Ogrim's Deflector
Binds when picked up
Sword
One-Hand
Speed 1.60
242 - 451 Damage
(216.6 damage per second)
+87 Stamina
+66 Strength
Yellow Socket
Socket Bonus: +6 Stamina
Durability 105 / 105
Requires Level 80
Item Level 258
Equip: Increases defense rating by 27.
Equip: Increases your dodge rating by 35.
Equip: Increases your parry rating by 35.


And here's a 2Her.
Decimation
Sword
Two-Hand
Speed 3.40
766 - 1149 Damage
(281.6 damage per second)
+170 Stamina
+137 Agility
Red Socket
Blue Socket
Socket Bonus: +12 Attack Power
Durability 120 / 120
Requires Level 80
Item Level 258
Equip: Improves hit rating by 94.
Equip: Increases attack power by 188.
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 102.

It could prove useful for a warrior who needs agility, but for a real player it's not a warrior weapon. It's actually quite a hunter weapon.


Here's the arms warrior variant... and other classes too ofc. Though it looks crap compared to the sword. MMO-champion's your fix, it's on the mainpage.

Catastrophe
Binds when picked up
Mace
Two-Hand
Speed 3.60
811 - 1217 Damage
(281.7 damage per second)
+174 Stamina
+158 Strength
Red Socket
Blue Socket
Socket Bonus: +6 Strength
Durability 120 / 120
Requires Level 80
Item Level 258
Equip: Increases your expertise rating by 92.
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 96.

[Silverwolf]

And you wont get any of them!!!1!

[Queenie]

not until the end of this year, at least that much is true.

[Ad-Rock]

Had a 25-man naxx run yesterday arvo, trying out dual wielding on my dk. Once I got the hang of the spec (and a nice new sword) I was clearing 4k dps in some melee friendly fights. Pretty happy with the way it plays, not the most complicated rotation but it takes concentration not to screw it up.

EDIT: Icy touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike x2, Obliterate, Frost strike x2 or x3, Obliterate x3. Repeat. Chuck in howling blasts when free ones proc. Sub in HB for obliterate against multiple targets.

[Silverwolf]

What's your gear like? I've been told dual wielding isn't that great until you get fairly geared.
DK tanking got shafted in the patch anyway, Paladins for life. (mines almost level 73 woo)

[Ad-Rock]

This is my armory entry - Mylkyjo (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Khaz%27goroth&n=Mylkyjo). My dps set is pretty average, as I have spent the majority of my time working on my tanking set. Its just a mish-mash of crafted, heroic, pvp and naxx gear.

Went to ulduar last night for the first time. I was consistently putting out over 3.5k dps, which I was pretty happy with. I have had no luck with Head, cloak or shoulder drops, so I guess I will be using badges to gear those slots.

[Odin]

What's your gear like? I've been told dual wielding isn't that great until you get fairly geared.
DK tanking got shafted in the patch anyway, Paladins for life. (mines almost level 73 woo)

I didn't know you played Wow. Or maybe I did and I forgot.

I love my pally too. :D

[StorminNorman]

Onyxia will Deep Breath more in patch 3.2.2. (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19110028331&sid=1)

[Second]

Onyxia will Deep Breath more in patch 3.2.2. (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19110028331&sid=1)

She has lurked in her lair and done battle with the many brave adventurers who travelled to that familiar location over the years. Now, in honor of the World of Warcraft 5-year anniversary, the dreaded brood mother Onyxia is being revamped to make a return to the forefront of Azeroth, as part of our big plans for the upcoming 3.2.2 content patch.

This permanent update to Onyxia will convert the dungeon into 10- and 25-player modes. We will be adding new items to Onyxia’s loot table that have the same model as some of the classic loot from this dungeon, like Tier 2 helms, with stats updated to match the current level of content. There will be a special new item too: a normal drake-sized 310% speed flying mount modeled after Onyxia herself called Brood of Onyxia. We will also be updating the encounter mechanics to be more fitting for modern raiding, but we can guarantee players will get to experience the frightening horror of deep breaths once again.

Then for a limited time, after the 5-year anniversary event officially begins in November, anybody who logs in will receive an Onyxia Brood Whelpling pet.

We’re very excited to bring this classic encounter back to provide a fun new experience for both new and veteran players. Further details will be available in the near future, and we will be setting up the Public Test Realms soon to help test out this fight along with all the new content we have planned for the patch. Keep an eye on the forums for updates!
Holy Shit. That's pretty awesome.

[Silverwolf]

Damn, farming Ony with a pally for gold is awesome.

[Ad-Rock]

I've been very lucky with drops this week, picked up 7 new pieces of gear + 8.5 helm from badges.

[Dunkurtin]

WTB heroic farmiing group. Done bugger all this week and im planning to go out tonight. =[ I need that chest!

[Johnsters2]

I understand why people play games like World of Warcraft, but the thing i don't understand is spending money each month on a game. Games should be completely available once the game has been purchased instead of players having to pay again and again each month. The massive problem is it isn't just $5 a month but its more like $30.



Just to put this out there but, is WOW really worth the money you spend on it?

[Queenie]

first you must understand one thing.

WoW= Drugs.

Secondly, how much time are you able to sink into your average 100$ game? I'd imagine far less than what is required for WoW.

[Vindik8or]

It's around $20 per month. But here's a couple of points:

1) A game like WoW needs constant expenditure, if it is just comprised of one-off payments the company making it would go under in a very quick fashion. The other models for online play are more insidious, but the same effect. Guild Wars release expansions often. The Koreatron MMO Factory rely on constant micro-payments to access the awesome stuff. Regardless, without Blizzard constantly spending money on servers, in-game Admin, developers to adjust and create new content you just aren't going to have World of Warcraft. And they're not going to do that without there being profit in it for them.

2) $20 a month isn't too foul. That's about the same as a new game every 3-5 months and it pretty much surpases most games in playtime available. So if you buy more than two games a year, WoW is better value than that.

[JubeiSaotome]

It's $20 that goes towards awesome service, actual content that players want (Yes, they listen) and servers that are stable and are up 99% of the time.

[StorminNorman]

Games should be completely available once the game has been purchased instead of players having to pay again and again each month.

In your Marxist utopia, who pays for the servers?

[NetherWind]

Guild Wars is like that, pay the fee for the game and then free 2 play online. Though since I haven't played GW in quite some time I am not sure how it is going, I would imagine it is still being played. I never had a problem paying a sub fee or $40-45 for two months play in WoW via a gamecard. Just I got bored with it and the scrubs who would try and tell me how to play my class when they do not know shit about the class.

[Vindik8or]

Except the stuff they release as an expansion in Guild Wars comes out as patches for WoW.

[NetherWind]

Aye forgot about that, the only time they release an expansion disc for WoW is when it is for an entirely new continent (Outlands and Northrend) with new content.

[Queenie]

Holy crap if some of this is true. From MMO-champ main page.

Well, it's not like you won't know about it. Spoilertagging anyway.

Also, Worgen= Gilneas. Now it makes sense!


World of Warcraft: Cataclysm

World of Warcraft: Cataclysm is the next expansion for World of Warcraft. Dark and forgotten threats that have long stayed out of sight have finally arrived on our shores, unleashing a cataclysmic event upon Azeroth and now preparing more nefarius plans to take it back.

Level Cap
The level cap in the next expansion will be slightly lower than expected this time around; 85.

This suggests Blizzard wants more room for expansions before hitting the level 100 cap. With less leveling to do (along with the revamped leveling listed below likely to increase the speed and ease of leveling), leveling a new race remains appealing for new and existing players alike.

Leveling from 80-85 should be a much bigger deal, the idea is to make sure that gaining a level really means something and doesn't make you feel like you just have 4 more levels to go.

New Classes
Cataclysm doesn't introduce any new classes to the game. Instead, Blizzard have offered more race and classes combinations to players. The Some of these have alreadly been datamined from the 3.2.2 Test Realms. The An Injured Colleague quest and it's new Night Elf counter-part help to introduce the lore for these new race and class combinations, so we can probably expect to see more of these for some of the less traditional ones.

Human Hunter
Orc Mage
Night Elf Mage
Dwarf Mage
Blood Elf Warrior
Dwarf Shaman
Undead Hunter
Tauren Paladin
Tauren Priest
Gnome Priest
Troll Druid


New Races
The events of the cataclysm has caused two new races to seek new allies. The Goblins for the Horde and the Worgen for the Alliance.

Worgen
The cataclysm has cracked open the Greymane Wall, finally revealing what has happened to the kingdom of Gilneas and its citizens. With the Worgen curse taken hold, they have found a partial cure, allowing thme to retain their Human minds even when transformed. Venturing forth from Gilneas and seeking help from the Alliance, they have decided to join them, to combat the new threats of Cataclysm.

Gilneas will make extensive use of the phasing system (much like the Death Knight starting area), to show what happened while the kingdom was cut off from the rest of the world and lead up to present day.

Worgens will have two forms, a Worgen form and a Human form. Players will be able to customise the look of both forms.

New Content
Cataclysm will be the first expansion not to introduce a new continent, instead making use of previously unreleased zones and revamping existing ones.

Classic Azeroth Revamp
A cataclysmic event caused by Deathwing and Azshara will change the face of Azeroth as we know it. Most of the new content for Cataclysm will take the form of a revamped Azeroth, taking advantage of newer additions to WoW such as phasing and daily quests. Most of the quests and mobs in the classic zones will also be redesigned to make leveling less painful. With the revamp, a greater narritive and sense progression will be offered to players. Some zones and dungeons will change drastically to fit this, e.g.,

The Barrens will be split into two separate zones of two different level bands.
Azshara will become a low level (~10-20) zone.
Some of the zones like the Thousand Needles will be flooded.
Durotar is wrecked and apparently Orgrimmar could be destroyed. A new Orc city is rebuilt over the course of the expansion.
Gnomeregan will be part of the expansion as well and gnomes might be able to reclaim their capital. (The last part is still unconfirmed)
Wailing Caverns will be become a lush tropical area as a result of the druid's magic.
The Blackrock Spire will erupt and a new version of Blackrock Mountains will be available, apparently Ragnaros will be back too.

In the aftermath of the cataclysm, and the new conflicts on the horizon relief efforts can be found in many zones and new open PvP areas similar to Lake Wintergrasp.

Flying in Azeroth
Part of the redesign of the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor is the introduction of flying to the two continents, allowing access to many new areas and quicker travelling across the large continents.

Classic Dungeon Revamp
Redesigning Onyxia's Lair in Patch 3.2.2 was just the first step. As most of the leveling will take place in revamped areas of Azeroth, so too will the dungeons, allowing players to use them to level from 80 to 85.

Unreleased Zones & Dungeons
With the addition of flying mounts to Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms and the redesign of many zones, most of the previously unreachable or incomplete zones will now be made available to players. This is where most of the new content from 80 to 85 will take place. Some of these are,

Hyjal (present)
Gilneas - The Worgen starting Zone.
Uldum

It is unclear if the old Goblin locations such as Kezan and Undermine will be included in Cataclyms with the revelation of the goblins' plight, but several new islands have also been risen from the seas by the events of Cataclysm, some on the backs of giant sea turtles and whales, with the addition of several underwater zones.

Characters and Events

Deathwing
Deathwing the Destroyer / Neltharion the Earth-Warder will play a major role in Cataclysm. Having been driven mad by Old God whisperings and turning against his own kind only to be fail in his attempts, Deathwing has sunk into the shadows. While the Horde and the Alliance were busy fighting back the Burning Legion only to then be beset with the Scourge, he has been lurking and moving things into place. After Lady Sinestra's failed attempts to create a Twilight Dragonflight, he again retreated to Grim Batol and succeeded where she failed. With his results seen in the Obsidian Sanctum, he has finally created the supreme Dragonflight he sought and plans to unleash it upon the world. But what of the Old Gods' sway over him?

Azshara
Queen Azshara will also play a major part in Cataclysm. Unknown to many mortal races, long forgotten by others, and believe to be dead by her own kind, she has not been dormant in depths of the Maelstrom. Having those around her transformed by the Old Gods into Naga after her failure in the War of the Ancients, she has become far more powerful and a greater threat than she once was. Not content with just Nazjatar and the depths of the sea, Azshara seeks to reclaim power and reign once again. With the true plan behind Lady Vashj's support of Illidan remaining a mystery we do not know what hand Azshara has yet played. The big question remains, is she now serving her "saviors", the Old Gods?

The Cataclysm
I'm still not sure who is the true end boss of Cataclysm is, but the cataclysm appears to have been caused by attempts to incantation to summon extremely powerful beings using an ancient incantation by Deathwing and Azshara. They're both very powerful, but the cataclysm itself suggests something more powerful is behind it, perhaps their shared past of Old God influence?

The Guardian of Tirisfal
Malfurion Stormrage will be returning to Azeroth to aid in the creation of the new Guardian of Tirisfal - Thrall! Med'an's role in these events is currently unknown.

The New (New) Horde
Thrall will hand over the leadership of the Horde to Garrosh Hellscream, while he serves as a coordinator for both the Horde and Alliance forces in and effort to combat the new threat of the Naga and Black Dragonflight. Without Thrall to keep Garrosh in check, he declares open war on the Alliance. In the political upheaval Cairne Bloodhoof is implicated as a traitor to the Horde and murdered by Garrosh. Cairne's son Baine takes over as the new Tauren chieftan. This could explain why Baine was removedhy Baine was removed from the game in Patch 3.2.2, you can find more information about this in Ahmo Thunderhorn - replacement for Baine Bloodhoof?

[Silverwolf]

The last point is utterly ridiculous. What the ****.

[StorminNorman]

It's clearly fake from the moment they mention Worgen as a player race. Really can't see that happening.

The rest is speculation about Maelstrom Set that's been around for a while now. Gilneas, Maelstrom, Undermine etc all seem like obvious addons for a future expansion, and an Azeroth revamp has been on the cards for a while (although that won't be part of an expansion, I don't think).

The most believable part is the 85 level cap, which was more-or-less confirmed a few months back.

(There was a rumour a while back that Maelstrom Set and Emerald Dream Set would be combined for a single expansion. Kind of surprised that whoever faked this didn't work that in.)

[CoolzInferno]

Even if they are fake notes, the lack of an Undead Paladin as a playable class depresses me.

[JubeiSaotome]

I think blizzard would be stupid not to step up to the plate for those notes. The sales would be astronomical. Would bring back a tonne of old players and would make the gap between 1~60 actually fun again.

[StorminNorman]

A revamped Azeroth wouldn't be part of the expansion content anyway. They'd have to make that WoW 4.0 client data.

[JubeiSaotome]

An update that world changing, redoing the horde, would be totally expansion content.

[Sytadel]

An update that world changing, redoing the horde, would be totally expansion content.

What Stormin' is saying is that you'd have to revamp Azeroth in a non-expansion patch because you couldn't have "WoW expansion 3" players playing "Azeroth B" and "WoW without expansion" players playing "Azeroth A" since they occupy the same space. E.g. if

Thousand needles is flooded, you can hardly have some players walking around underwater and others swimming between pinnacles.

Much like how when BC came out, non-expansion players could still run around the BE/Draenei zones.

[Dunkurtin]

Umm could they? Because i swear i can remember getting on the wrong boat at Darnassus and being ported back with some message about not being able to go to the draenei area.

[Sytadel]

Umm could they? Because i swear i can remember getting on the wrong boat at Darnassus and being ported back with some message about not being able to go to the draenei area.

Oh, really? Oh well fair point then. Either way - players without BC could still go and see the wrath gate for example.

[Second]

Truth or Fiction, these notes have got me paying attention. I have an urge to return to the game...

[Queenie]

It's clearly fake from the moment they mention Worgen as a player race. Really can't see that happening.

The rest is speculation about Maelstrom Set that's been around for a while now. Gilneas, Maelstrom, Undermine etc all seem like obvious addons for a future expansion, and an Azeroth revamp has been on the cards for a while (although that won't be part of an expansion, I don't think).

The most believable part is the 85 level cap, which was more-or-less confirmed a few months back.

(There was a rumour a while back that Maelstrom Set and Emerald Dream Set would be combined for a single expansion. Kind of surprised that whoever faked this didn't work that in.)

Gilneas. Kinda next to the greymane wall. Which is in the zone that contains shadowfang keep. There was also a massive quest chain thing about the scythe of elune that sorta stopped. scythe summons worgen btw. its alliance side.

I don't believe they'd kill off cairne though.

[Second]

I just want Tauren Rogues (http://www.wowwiki.com/Tauren_Rogue). :(

[StorminNorman]

There was also a massive quest chain thing about the scythe of elune that sorta stopped. scythe summons worgen btw. its alliance side.

Yeah. I did some reading, and there's some almost-plausible theories out there, but I'm still not buying it.

I don't believe they'd kill off cairne though.

That part's more plausible than them leaving Garrosh, who is the most hated character in WoW, in charge of the Horde.

[bulkerking]

I like to put my vote in for Rexxar :)
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[Second]

That part's more plausible than them leaving Garrosh, who is the most hated character in WoW, in charge of the Horde.
Let's face it. Thrall was a leader who wanted to bring peace between the Horde and the Alliance. Putting Garrosh in charge would put the War back in World of Warcraft. Seems like a logcial move from the designers point of view to keep the game going.

[Spudzilla]

Garrosh is a monster heel.

[Pauly]

What Stormin' is saying is that you'd have to revamp Azeroth in a non-expansion patch because you couldn't have "WoW expansion 3" players playing "Azeroth B" and "WoW without expansion" players playing "Azeroth A" since they occupy the same space. E.g. if

Thousand needles is flooded, you can hardly have some players walking around underwater and others swimming between pinnacles.
i assume it would just be using a lot of phasing for high level characters. kinda means you can't run guildies through low level instances anymore though :P