World of Warcraft

[Sytadel]

- ZA will potentially make Karazhan skippable.

Where did you hear this? I heard the first Z'A encounter is a gear check to make skipping Karazhan impossible.

[StorminNorman]

It was in an interview with Tigole. He said if the guild was good enough, they could probably bypass Karazhan and get into Z'A just on gear from 5-mans/heroics.

[Araenel]

It was in an interview with Tigole. He said if the guild was good enough, they could probably bypass Karazhan and get into Z'A just on gear from 5-mans/heroics.

It's kind of funny that notion. I can accept that if a guild is good enough they could bypass certain types of content. But usually a guild is only considered "good enough" because they've already done that content and have the knowledge of the game and group skill to do it.

That aside, I don't know why any low-level guild would want to skip Kara anyway, I doubt that just heroic gear and ZA gear will fill everyone's slot for all classes for all specs, so there's still going to be empty slots to fill.

I could be wrong of course, but it doesn't sound like Blizzard's design philosophy to make an old instance completely obsolete due to a new one (excluding expansions of course :P)

Guilds in AQ40 still ran BWL for those elusive drakefang talismans etc and guilds in Naxx still ran AQ40 for regalias and Cthun loot, and so on.

[FX-GTZ]

BREWFEST, WOO!

Yeah, good fun, but the "barking" quests don't work, it appears. :(
Thats only for blood elve's isnt it? It worked for me two times so far, yesterday and today, oh btw i now have 178 tickets, 450 to go.

[Second]

It doesn't appear to work for anyone on Frosty.

[StorminNorman]

Guilds in AQ40 still ran MC for godsdamn freaking T2 pants.
Fixed. :P

[Flaps]

What time do you guys normally raid on Frostmourne?

[OldSkOoL]

What have I done, I reactivated my account at my friends house last night and started questing in Outland.

[Vindik8or]

So people still move during the mother-******ing flame wreath.

[Araenel]

So people still move during the mother-******ing flame wreath.

It's totally awesome when ranged dps or even ******ing healers move on flame wreath.

Must be a mouth-breather.

[Queenie]

Somehow I'm quitting WoW. Ill lvl my guy to 70, then quit and wait for the new XP to come out. Because then I can skip doing Kharazan 50 times, or say doing Sethekk halls for the rogue shoulders. Our GM has done that instance about... 80 times now, and he still hasn't got them.

You've played MP3, haven't you Araenel?

[Vindik8or]

Why don't you just quit WoW until they announce it's ending? That way you can skip all the future instance and raids, and in fact skip playing at all. JUST AS FUN!

[TSplodey]

What he said. ^

[Sytadel]

So as many know I've been umming and ahhing over an alt to make for the past month or so, largely haven't bothered because between raiding and pvp I haven't had the time.

However with raiding ceasing I decided to level an alt (to 4!) the other night. Pics shall be posted later of her rogueish hotness.

Fixed. :P

Yeah, that was a hell of a gap. Tier 2 pants off rag, then some 20 bosses later, T2.5 off Ouro! Get lost! Given most guilds got stuffed at Twin Emps, and even those that got past him didn't care too much for an optional boss (especially since once you'd killed Ouro's trash, you're basically at C'Thun anyway), it was a bit stupid.

[FX-GTZ]

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3743/wowscrnshot100507163758my6.png
/cheer.

[Araenel]

Somehow I'm quitting WoW. Ill lvl my guy to 70, then quit and wait for the new XP to come out. Because then I can skip doing Kharazan 50 times, or say doing Sethekk halls for the rogue shoulders. Our GM has done that instance about... 80 times now, and he still hasn't got them.

You've played MP3, haven't you Araenel?

Nope, only Prime 1.

[Sytadel]

Blizzard really needs to hire this guy, check out this entirely custom player-made tauren cat form design:

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i216/mjr45k/w504ba.jpg

Poly count is probably too high for the game engine, but for one guy with time on his hands that's very impressive.

[Vindik8or]

1050 Polygons? No way is that too high.

[Second]

Blizzard really needs to hire this guy, check out this entirely custom player-made tauren cat form design:

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i216/mjr45k/w504ba.jpg

Poly count is probably too high for the game engine, but for one guy with time on his hands that's very impressive.
Does he have that for download anywhere? I've been meaning to mess around with the models on mine (with the help of Trin) and that would make an EXCELLENT addition. :3

[TrinityJayOne]

I'd say that's just a normal render that he manually posed, not a WoW model. WoW models have set animations built into the file, and the game just plays them when necessary. The actual game doesn't animate anything.

[StorminNorman]

Also, the WoW engine can handle much higher-polygon models than the game uses. There's a surprising amount of "future-proofing" in WoW.

Not to mention that, apparently, if Blizzard wanted, they could "drop in" a new graphics engine anytime they wanted without it breaking anything. They actually did this with the sound engine in 2.2.

[Second]

I'd say that's just a normal render that he manually posed, not a WoW model. WoW models have set animations built into the file, and the game just plays them when necessary. The actual game doesn't animate anything.
Aww. So anyways, what are the limitations on the changes we can make?
Also, more specifically, is it possible to change the model used for the Tauren travel form or would that also change the Night Elf one too?

[TSplodey]

Well there are rumours of a graphical facelift for the game come WotLK, so some of that future-proofing might just come to light Norman.

[Araenel]

Aww. So anyways, what are the limitations on the changes we can make?
Also, more specifically, is it possible to change the model used for the Tauren travel form or would that also change the Night Elf one too?

I thought one of the latest patches changed the way you can access those files making it harder to change graphics. I dunno

[TrinityJayOne]

I thought one of the latest patches changed the way you can access those files making it harder to change graphics. I dunno
Lol. The way that you do it currently means that Blizz won't be able to remove it without completely changing the patching process. Unless they make the entire game run server-side, any changes they make will just be a stall.

Ruda- no, it won't. It's simple really, a model change only effects other objects that use the same model (including objects that use the same model but a different texture). Get MyWarcraftStudio and WoWModelViewer, makes it all much easier to work out.

[Second]

Well, since the Tauren Travel form is exactly the same (last I checked), I wasn't sure if it'd be a global thing. I downloaded the Model Viewer earlier, I'll have a look at the Studio now.

[TrinityJayOne]

Oh my bad, I read "cat form" for some reason, probably cos of the pictures above. Changing travel form will indeed alter the Alliance version, as well as a few cheetahs in the world.

[Second]

OIC. Makes a bit more sense now. :P

So, we can change the models used. Can we actually change which model it looks for? I.E. The current travel form looks for the model of the Cheetah, can we make it so it looks for the model of a wolf instead, without actually changing the model of the Cheetah to now be a wolf?

[TrinityJayOne]

That's like, the whole idea. :P Put very simply, you're using the game's patching process to provide it with updated models, only what you claim to be a cheetah is actually ________ .

[Second]

Hmm. Mind writing up a basic process on how I'd do it? And how to fix the Warlock flames? :P

[Sytadel]

So, after much thought I boiled down my alt choices to one of three classes:

Frost Mage: Versatile twitch-based class, and I haven't played an offensive class before. Quite strategic with a few crucial cooldowns moderating burst damage, kiting ability, two GCDs to handle and the relentless pursuit of perfection in CS timing.

Elemental Shaman: A class that walks the true hybrid line, balancing heals and defensive totems with some of the highest caster burst potential in the game. Top 5v5 players often say that an Elemental Shaman is the hardest class in the game to play well.

Rogue: A class simply built for PvP, with multiple viable specs. A simple joy in PvE, and able to dominate exceptionally well in solo world PvP.

In the end, I decided on a rogue. And just as one Blood Elf rogue dies (Guybrush), so another is born. Bare witness to the curves of Puscifer, the hottest Blood Elf rogue in town (sorry, Stormin'). Try not to be too aroused. I was originally opposed to "pretty" Blood elves until I realised I could chase that blonde wagon all day, and her symbolic phallic dagger.

Kickin!

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o246/Sytadel/pusciferbe.jpg
























later i decided she was too pretty and rerolled

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o246/Sytadel/pusciferorc.jpg

[Araenel]

I should be given credit for noting the possible similarity between female orcs and puscifer (compared to the other races >_>).

[Vindik8or]

Trolls are superior.

[Sytadel]

I already have a troll.

Plus, troll females run like ducks!

[TrinityJayOne]

So, who wants in on the pool? My guess is lv36.

[StorminNorman]

the hottest Blood Elf rogue in town (sorry, Stormin').
Lies. Tamiya is totally hotter than you.
http://ikaruga.homelinux.net/~tim/tamiya.jpg

In unrelated news, I've been playing my Night Elf rogue a lot lately, and have come to the belief that Blizzard needs to remodel Night Elves based on the Blood Elf/High Elf design. Right now there are pretty significant differences between them, despite technically being the same race. Obviously I'm not saying they should look exactly the same, but I think that the current NElf model is out of line with what other elves look like (and, if you look carefully, it's also somewhat out of line with artwork for the game).

Honestly I think all the old races could use a bit of a touch up and a few more polygons (the BElf/HElf and Draenei models have more polygons than the other races, apparently), but NElfs in particular are candidates for some fairly major changes.

Finally, can someone tell me why Tamaaya (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Jubei%27Thos&n=Tamaaya) has 1200-odd more HP than Tamiya? (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostmourne&n=Tamiya)

[tau]

Because one has more stamina than the other?

???

[Second]

Finally, can someone tell me why Tamaaya (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Jubei%27Thos&n=Tamaaya) has 1200-odd more HP than Tamiya? (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostmourne&n=Tamiya)
Because one has more stamina than the other?

???
Yeah, seems pretty obvious. 443 Stam has more HP than 301 stam. Oh my God, magic! :P

So, who wants in on the pool? My guess is lv36.
28-32. <_<

[Clift]

(the BElf/HElf and Draenei models have more polygons than the other races, apparently)

That is true, I remember reading somewhere before TBC was released, that the Belfs / Draenei models have something like twice as many polygons... I'm probably re-calling facts incorrectly, but they still have more! :razz:

[StorminNorman]

Because one has more stamina than the other?
Yeah, it just strikes me as odd that the different gear choices I've made have resulted in such a dramatic difference in HP.

[Sytadel]

So, who wants in on the pool? My guess is lv36.

Put me in for 70 :P

[Silverwolf]

Yeah, it just strikes me as odd that the different gear choices I've made have resulted in such a dramatic difference in HP.

Well my rogue had more than 8k hp at level 68, then when he hit 70 and a few gear changes he was down to around 7k, its very easy to change your HP with a few item changes :P.
Btw Tamiya really really needs a new mainhand, 2.00 speed wat?!

[Clift]

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1525/wowscrnshot100707164907gk5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Chlorophyll looking his best for Brewfest :razz:

[StorminNorman]

Btw Tamiya really really needs a new mainhand, 2.00 speed wat?!
I haven't really played her pretty much since she hit 70, to be honest. My friends never rerolled horde with me, so I had nothing to really do with her once I hit 70.

If my two RL friends that play with me on JT ever pick up their BElfs, I'll be back there with them, most likely.

[Bob the Destroyer]

Screenshots inc!

Raid setup. Nothing showing in Omen but because we just cleared the group.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/BobTheDestroyer/TheEye.jpg
24inches of LCD makes healing bareable

Just another one I found:
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/BobTheDestroyer/AV.jpg

[Araenel]

Hahah, afk king.

71k honor now baby 8)

[Theiffy]

Nono, this is the hawtest female belf rogue in town!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/Theiffy/teeglesrogue.jpg

Her spiteblade makes grown men cry D:

(silverwolf is awesome, i had troubles with trin's pc/wow and wolfy took over for me and that baby dropped, along with some other nice epic shinies ^.~)

[Vindik8or]

I got the legs from Netherspite yesterday and I'll be getting my merciless gladiator's slicer on wednesday. Go team me!

[Vindik8or]

w-w-w-w-wrooong. (not that I have ready access).

[FX-GTZ]

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6875/wowscrnshot100807181431in8.jpg
Yay.

[Silverwolf]

w-w-w-w-wrooong. (not that I have ready access).
Hah. i've already schooled you enough.

[Sytadel]

Come on guys, stop your bickering, we all know I'm the most geared person on the forums.

[Silverwolf]

Come on guys, stop your bickering, we all know I'm the most geared person on the forums.
Yes, thats true but i am pretty close now! :P

[Flaps]

wow talents - hunter class (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/hunter/talents.html?5521322151521221210010505001000000000 000000000000000000000000000)

lmao

.

[TrinityJayOne]

Testing new av/sig combo ;D

[Bob the Destroyer]

Blessing of Protection is still the funniest when it's put on a tank with a boss to it's last 10K health.

[NiB]

respeced twice tonight to an arms/fury hybrid. (I say twice cause the first time I did it i botched it completely and cost myself another 25g in the process)

My cunning plan is to get a spot raiding as a dps and hope that when the good tank gear drops the main tank doesn't need it :P

Not the greatest plan, but at least I have more variety in my play for a while.

[Vindik8or]

lmao

.
Once a nub, always a goddamn, game-breaking frigging nub.

FX - you have managed to spend points in all the really shitty BM talents and ignored some of the most awesome.

Maybe something more like this (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/hunter/talents.html?0520320052521225310510550201200000000 000000000000000000000000000).

You could skimp even more on BM and go deeper into Marksman still, and really buff that DPS output. Please stop using Aspect of the Hawk at level 70.

[Flaps]

Speaking of hunter builds here is my temporary one at the moment, just waiting on more agi gear to get deeper into Survival.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/hunter/talents.html?0520320052521225310510550201200000000 000000000000000000000000000

[Araenel]

sup

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/Araenel/fmtransfer.jpg

[TrinityJayOne]

Vin if you didn't get an SMS from me (i had your number from ages ago) FM is OPEN FOR TRANSFER!

(this is teegs and not trin btw D:)

teehee ren and stimpy

[Mouldy]

Trin, give me my Shaman back now please. :P

[Sytadel]

sup

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/Araenel/fmtransfer.jpg

Gasp!

This should hopefully give the server, and the raiding community, a much needed kick in the pants. Might even keep Shidavere going!

Please stop using Aspect of the Hawk at level 70.

Wait, why?

[Flaps]

thats it, I'm transferring



edit: on october 24th

[Vindik8or]

Gasp!

This should hopefully give the server, and the raiding community, a much needed kick in the pants. Might even keep Shidavere going!



Wait, why?
To my understand Beast Mastery is very mana hungry, you pretty much gotta go with Aspect of the Viper the whole time, so Imp. Aspect of the Hawk is a waste once you're 70. Very nice for levelling though.

Also: hold you horses Frostmourne, I'm sorting out my shit to transfer. Please recommend me some guilds and put in a good word for me.

[Second]

Transfers are working for Frosty now and my ****ing credit card is no longer working for some ****ing reason. >:|

[StorminNorman]

Draenor Set

Azuremyst Isle - 1 to 10
Bloodmyrk Isle - 10 to 20

Eversong Forest - 1 to 10
Quel'thalas - 10 to 20
Hellfire Peninsula - 58 to 62
Zangarmarsh - 60 to 64
Terokkar Forest - 61 to 65
The Deadlands - 63 to 67
Nagrand - 64 to 68
Blade's Edge Mountains - 66 to 70
Netherstorm - 67 to 70
Shadowmoon Valley - 69 to 70

Northrend Set

Borean Tundra - 67 to 70
Howling Fjord - 67 to 70
Dragonblight - 69 to 72
Grizzly Hills - 70 to 73
Crystalsong Forest - 72 to 75
Zul'drak - 73 to 76
Sholazar Basin - 75 to 79
Storm Peaks - 76 to 80
Icecrown Glacier - 78 to 80

Maelstrom Set

Gilneas - 77 to 80
Grim Batol - 78 to 81
Kul Tiras - 79 to 82
Kezan - 81 to 86
Tel Abim - 83 to 85
Zandalar - 84 to 87
Plunder Isle - 86 to 88
The Broken Isles - 87 to 90
The Maelstrom - 89 to 90

Plane Set

Pandaria - 1 to 10
Hiji - 10 to 20

Wolfenhold - 1 to 10
Xorothian Plains - 10 to 20

The Green Lands - 88 to 91
The Dying Paradise - 91 to 94
The Emerald Nightmare - 94 to 97
The Eye of Ysera - 97 to 100

Deephome - 88 to 91
Skywall - 91 to 94
The Abyssal Maw - 94 to 97
The Firelands - 97 to 100

Legion Set

K'aresh - 96 to 99
Argus Meadowlands - 97 to 100
Mac'Aree - 99 to 100
Maw of Oblivion - 100+
The Burning Citadel - 100+++

Found on Allakhazam, via EJ. Make of it what you will.

[Second]

What the hell?

[Clift]

My guess is it's all the planned zones and the levels you should be able to achieve whilst in them...

Looks quite interesting really

[Second]

Exactly. I'd imagine something important and showing off "Pandaria" would've attracted more interest. :P

Oh, Xorathian Planes (http://www.wowwiki.com/Xoroth) too?


Hrm...

[StorminNorman]

For what it's worth, the whole thing could be a fake, too.

Honestly, though, it makes a fair bit of sense, at least in terms of the progression of content. Gilneas/Maelstrom/etc would actually be a pretty good fit for a post-WotLK expansion, and Argus makes pretty good sense for the "final" WoW expansion.

[TSplodey]

I just had a thought about the new plan to make 1/3rd healing count for free spell damage.

To my understanding, Blizzard are budgeting it into the healing gear as pure +spl. However, I am a Imp Divine Spirit Priest, and I get ~40-50 extra spell damage when I throw up DS in my damage gear. So when this change goes through, I wont get as much benefit as I first thought (1/3rd of 50 isnt a huge amount, but every bit helps). At any rate Id rather they added the bonus into a staple healing talent for each class (Such as Improved Healing, 15% off GHeal Heal and LHeal manacost) so no +healing is "wasted".

[Silverwolf]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/omgwolfeh/shamantransfers.jpg
; ;
\o/

[tau]

I just had a thought about the new plan to make 1/3rd healing count for free spell damage.

To my understanding, Blizzard are budgeting it into the healing gear as pure +spl. However, I am a Imp Divine Spirit Priest, and I get ~40-50 extra spell damage when I throw up DS in my damage gear. So when this change goes through, I wont get as much benefit as I first thought (1/3rd of 50 isnt a huge amount, but every bit helps). At any rate Id rather they added the bonus into a staple healing talent for each class (Such as Improved Healing, 15% off GHeal Heal and LHeal manacost) so no +healing is "wasted".

I may be wrong, but isn't +healing not actually being changed, so you don't lose anything and gain the 30% spell damage?

edit: your post is incredibly confusing - 1/3rd of 50 is almost nothing, yeah, but you're not getting that. You're getting 1/3rd of 1800 or whatever healing you have.

[Sytadel]

Yeah, I'm not following you there either Splodey. Are you saying that in your +heal gear you're only doing marginally more damage than in your +dmg/heal gear? That's not really surprising, although personally I'm going to wear my healing gear when grinding for lower downtime (due to being able to heal myself better).

But to clarify... the change has nothing to do with spirit.

Gear that gives +90 heal will now also give +30 spell damage. This means as a priest, your total spell damage will be:

(30% of your +heal) + (10% of your spirit)

[TSplodey]

To my understanding, Blizzard are budgeting it into the healing gear as pure +spl.
Im fairly certain I read it as this. If an item has 300 +heal on it, it will also have an equip bonus of 100 + spl dmg, which does not count towards its item budget. The problem that arises through this method is that it does not account for talents/buffs that increase your +healing without gear. Follow me now?

Of course if they do just make it a talent then theres nothing to worry about.

[NiB]

I admit it, I was caught up in the glamor of doing major damage. I was a tank with a boring job and I thought hey, those mages/rogues must have heaps of fun I'll get in on that.

But alas, I'm just shit as a dps warrior. I've learnt my lesson, no more bright ligths and damage meters for me........

I'm now content with a life of sunder's and shield bashes :P

On another note, How hard is the slog to 70 2nd time around ?

[TSplodey]

Not terrible once you know where everything is, except for the dreaded 40s and early 50s, but hold out til 2.3 when they cut the XP requirement for levelling pre-Outland.

[Silverwolf]

I admit it, I was caught up in the glamor of doing major damage. I was a tank with a boring job and I thought hey, those mages/rogues must have heaps of fun I'll get in on that.

But alas, I'm just shit as a dps warrior. I've learnt my lesson, no more bright ligths and damage meters for me........

I'm now content with a life of sunder's and shield bashes :P

Sinister Strike, Slice and dice, Sinister Strike x5, Rupture, wait for Possible Ruthlessness proc, if not begin from start, if so start from Slice and Dice.
The life of my rogue :P

[tau]

ahaha, you put too much thought into it.

STAB STAB rinse repeat.

[NiB]

Sinister Strike, Slice and dice, Sinister Strike x5, Rupture, wait for Possible Ruthlessness proc, if not begin from start, if so start from Slice and Dice.
The life of my rogue :P

Fire Mage it is !

Hello Uber DPS :P

[Vindik8or]

No DPS is more Uber than a Rogue.

[Queenie]

and they don't have to worry about stupid +int stats either.

reason im a warrior 4 lyf.

possibly druid.

[Vindik8or]

****** Prince up his Infernal Dropping arse. We would have had him down on the first attempt if he didn't constantly drop his Infernals in the worst possible places, no matter the raid positioning. FIX PLZ BLIZZ!

EDIT: Transferring soon.

[Araenel]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/Araenel/ram.jpg

\o/ woots

[TSplodey]

Das 2.3 Patch Notes. (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=1310B4728BD1CBF422103BA105B DA35E?topicId=2288042225&sid=1)

Some really good stuff in there.

[TrinityJayOne]

Das 2.3 Patch Notes. (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=1310B4728BD1CBF422103BA105B DA35E?topicId=2288042225&sid=1)

Some really good stuff in there.
I agreed until I got to the Warlock notes. :P Soul Siphon has been turned from a nice talent into yet another "increases dmg by n%" one. BORING. I wish arena had never come to pass; a single build excels there so they nerf that but in the process nerf a different tree for all other areas of the game. If SL/SL 'Locks (Soul Link/Siphon Life for those playing at home) are raping it up in the arena so bad, why not just leave Soul Siphon as it was but make it 31pts or deeper?

Strongly hoping this is to counteract some upcoming change of awesomeness for the expansion. Apart from that, some nice changes, especially the way spells are sent to the server. No more rejected casts!

[Clift]

How dare they nerf Heart of the Wild!

And it's about time they made Crusader Strike spammable again (Not that my Pally is Ret), increased range on cleanse is another plus :D

[Araenel]

- Corpses that belong to someone in your party, but that you cannot
loot will say in the corpse mouseover who has loot rights on that
corpse. This will help skinners who want to know who to talk to in
order to skin their corpse, as well as master looters when special
loot drops on a normal monster. Everyone will then see that there is
a monster that the master looter has loot rights on.

WHO CAN LOOT THE CORE HOUND?!

[SOX]

- Fear Ward is now available to all priests at level 20. Duration
:nono:
I don't want some crappy holy spell I can't even cast (in ShadowForm) to replace Fear Ward.

[Vindik8or]

Except that you will still have Fear Ward. Plus: Re-roll Horde you QQing nubsacks.

[Theiffy]

Hooray for fear ward! Hooray for 1 hr poison durations! Hooray!

Vin, have you transferred yet or what? :P

[Vindik8or]

I'm planning on sometime between Sunday night and server reset.

[StorminNorman]

Guild banks look pretty good. They implemented them almost exactly how I thought they would.

[Flaps]

Players no longer gain the moving AOE radius bonus if they are
jumping.

D:

[StorminNorman]

Lowered the fireball damage of Defias Pillagers
Lowered the fireball damage of Defias Pillagers
Lowered the fireball damage of Defias Pillagers
Lowered the fireball damage of Defias Pillagers

[Sytadel]

I'm planning on sometime between Sunday night and server reset.

Server transfers have had a history, in the past, of being open for very small periods of time. I transferred my Druid to Jubei'thos - literally - within a < 24 hour window. Unless you have some really pressing issues, I'd transfer ASAP.

Also, be sure to check the AH on each server: buy low, sell high!

[TrinityJayOne]

^ what Syt said. This is FM we're talking about, it's gonna fill up in no time. It's certainly not in the glorious state it once was, but that doesn't stop people from flocking to it. If I had a CC I would have helped you do the transfer already. :P

[Vindik8or]

Tomorrow it is then.

[Second]

Hrm...

TPG are having WoW issues. Several people find themselves disconnected from WoW and are unable to reconnect for several hours. They're also having trouble getting on to the wow forums afterwards too.

I've had it happen twice, both times at night or the early hours. I am sad. :(

[TrinityJayOne]

People using Pitbull- you know how when someone in the party gets a debuff, their unit frame goes bright pink/green/whatever based on the debuff type? Is there any way to make the color less in-my-face? I turned up the transparency on the debuff colors in the options, but I think it's only for the debuff icons themselves because it didn't do shit to the actual frames. This is using the "Aura" module by the way, if "AuraAlt" is better then let me know.

[Vindik8or]

Not that I know of. I use the garishness of the colours as an incentive to get rid of them (they only pop up for debuffs that you can remove).

[TrinityJayOne]

Yeah major bummer, the colors you can change but for some reason it ignores the transparency setting. A few other Qs-

-Is there a way to get timers under the buffs?
-Any way to change the cast bar font settings? Or the string it uses?
-Couldn't the option tree structure be a little more organised?
-Is there a way to manually choose exactly where buff and debuff icons go?

[StorminNorman]

The "configuration mode" should let you reposition buff/debuff icons.

[Queenie]

Bugger. The new patch broke all of my quest and enchanting addons. ******.

[TrinityJayOne]

The "configuration mode" should let you reposition buff/debuff icons.
I can move them via the options, I just don't think the choices are very good. Eg- having them set to "split" but putting them both on the "top" setting just has them overlay eachother instead of putting the debuffs on a row above the buffs, or vise versa. I have it now so that the buffs populate from the left and debuffs from the right, but I'd rather just have them both on top but in separate rows. Still can't find timers or a setting to shrink the cast bar font either.

[Sytadel]

Couldn't the option tree structure be a little more organised?

It actually used to be a lot better before 2.2, when Rock was introduced it made the organisation quite terrible... there's not much you can do except get used to it.

I can move them via the options, I just don't think the choices are very good. Eg- having them set to "split" but putting them both on the "top" setting just has them overlay eachother instead of putting the debuffs on a row above the buffs, or vise versa. I have it now so that the buffs populate from the left and debuffs from the right, but I'd rather just have them both on top but in separate rows.

Can you just disable split then set it to "top"? If you're not putting them in different areas then you shouldn't need split.

Still can't find timers or a setting to shrink the cast bar font either.

Probably not the solution you want to hear, but I just disabled the cast bar module altogether and use Quartz instead, which is quite powerful and flexible but also remarkably easy to configure and bug-free. It also has the all important lag meter, although it's not that important for druids.

Personally I've found PitBull to be too much work for too little gain, I just use Xperl now and the only thing I miss is the ability to have really big, obvious health bars.

[Theiffy]

I got myself a Brewfest ram!

I've been mounting and dismounting and jumping off high places all day amusing myself with its sounds D:<

[Sytadel]

Baa!

Bored @ Uni!

Anyway, daylight savings is coming in in some 12 days so I have only about 1.5 weeks of raiding left. I'll confess I'm not going to miss it, largely because 2.3 is bringing in so much new and interesting content that doesn't require heavy raiding.

I really would like to see Zul'Aman, particularly with my Hunter who I've recently taken off the shelf. I'm doing Battlegrounds on him a bit more, want to max his engineering, and find a good priest for 2v2 or (warlock or mage)/(priest or pally) for 3v3. I'll post pics later, but for a character I've done nothing but dailys and casual PvP with, he's looking pretty fierce.

Still levelling Puscifer (slowly) and Sytadel's 3v3 is going to make the push for 2,000 rating as soon as we get the time.

[tau]

It's weird - WoW is yet to even become a possibility in my mind as something to click on when bored now :S

\o/

[Sytadel]

man you must be so proud of yourself for playing game <x>/movie <z> instead of game <y> >_>

[Theiffy]

ahahaha i saw your name on the last post in the WoW thread and i was SO hoping it was a tau burn >_>

[Vindik8or]

Okay, I've transferred my characters and I'm waiting for it to finalise.

[Second]

Okay, I've transferred my characters and I'm waiting for it to finalise.
It's a pretty quick process. At least, it has been for me. I set my characters to transfer over, had dinner and when I came back it was approved.

[TSplodey]

Killed Vashj again tonight.
\m/

[Vindik8or]

Well I have started swinging my epeen all over Frostmourne.

[TSplodey]

Well I have started swinging my [Short Sword] all over Frostmourne.

Fixt.

[tau]

Killed Vashj again tonight.
\m/

And the progress on the bosses before her? :P

[Araenel]

They need to rename this thread the burn ward, yo.

[TrinityJayOne]

The last 3 posts are so full of awesome its not funny. I wish I could pep all 3 of you. :D

20 seconds later...

Well Tsplodey & Rae have pep on the way, but it won't let me pep Tau (even though I tried him second). SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU QUIT?! THE WOW GODS ARE ANGRY OOOOOOHER...

[TSplodey]

And the progress on the bosses before her? :P

Dead, like prospects of pep for you.

[TrinityJayOne]

New DL comic up today, I can't not post it. Seeing an Orc wearing glasses cracks me up! :D

http://darklegacycomics.com/112.jpg

[FX-GTZ]

I had such a great time last night, with just questing in general and chatting, this was after bfd of course.. And we managed to kill Twilight Lord Kelris with just a mage, priest, and me, a paladin. We were all pretty please by what we typed too, lol...


http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7043/wowscrnshot101407201219jj7.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5286/wowscrnshot101407201721bv1.jpg
Also, we all dinged too... lol crazy people.

[StorminNorman]

I had a quick go of the test server just now, and noticed that there's now a button on the minimap that lets you track useful things like different kinds of NPCs in a city.

You can also now enable numeric percentage displays on enemy healthbars in the default UI, which is nice.

Now if only the PvP test server would come back up...

[Nemzilla]

I had such a great time last night, with just questing in general and chatting, this was after bfd of course.. And we managed to kill Twilight Lord Kelris with just a mage, priest, and me, a paladin. We were all pretty please by what we typed too, lol...

Also, we all dinged too... lol crazy people.

Yeah, pretty crazy.

[StorminNorman]

"Once favoured by rogues as a blinding agent, it was abandoned for more readily available resources... like dirt."

[Second]

"Once favoured by rogues as a blinding agent, it was abandoned for more readily available resources... like dirt."
... What?

[Mouldy]

... What?

Removing the reagent requirement for blind.

[Spazzallo]

According to the Euro WoW forums, distract has been buffed incredibly for rogues. When used on an enemy player now, that enemy player cannot move outside distracts AoE for 10 seconds!

Any rogue/ranged dps combo will now easily rip apart a team of warriors or rogues (assuming you get the jump on them) in 2 vs 2. Too bad this sounds too good to be true and Blizzard will decide that distract is already overpowered and will now only have a 10% success rate.

****ers.

[tau]

Wait... What? o_o

Must.. not... come... back

D:>

[TSplodey]

Sounds made up to me. Seems like it would be a son of a bitch to code right, as well as being super OP.

[GT_Racer]

Hi all long time no see, haven't been bothered changing my password until now.

Croissant Crusaders has finally had some progression, we still have some issues with healers forgetting how to log on.

We downed Attumen and Moroes and two first's this week, Maiden and Wizard of OZ.

No friggin plate at all though.

If anyone's interested we still need back up's especially healers for the core team (7pm ish weeknights) and we are starting a second weekend team (11am ish).

Just pst me or Sharko in game.

[Sytadel]

According to the Euro WoW forums, distract has been buffed incredibly for rogues. When used on an enemy player now, that enemy player cannot move outside distracts AoE for 10 seconds!

Any rogue/ranged dps combo will now easily rip apart a team of warriors or rogues (assuming you get the jump on them) in 2 vs 2. Too bad this sounds too good to be true and Blizzard will decide that distract is already overpowered and will now only have a 10% success rate.

****ers.

Source? I've heard nothing of the sort.

[StorminNorman]

I shall test this new distract on the test server right now and report back.

EDIT: ...Or not. The PvP realm is offline.

EDIT EDIT: The ship from Menethil to Theramore now has an NPC crew, some of whom sell and repair things. It also looks like there may be something interesting happening in Theramore soon.

[Queenie]

bugger. One really awesome (i thought) idea i had a while ago would be to have a massive horde raid (on a pvp server, 'course) with like as many lvl 70's as humanly possible, and have them hide inside the menethil to theramore ship, or some other ship path and then bust out when they reach the destination, and it'd be RARR and then that'd be so fun.

Or make a massive alliance raid, all get on the zeppelin to orgrimmar and just completely own everyone there. Of course you'd probably need like 80+ people to do that, but if something of that magnitude could be organised, the amount of ownage that could happen would be big and awesome.

[Second]

Keeping it a secret would be the real task. The more people that know, the more chance of the cat being let out of the bag and a large force waiting for them. :P

[StorminNorman]

While more or less everyone on the server is running ZA, my rogue is undergeared for it, so I decided to head out and see what's happening in Dustwallow Marsh. This is all alliance-side stuff, as I don't have a horde character on the PTRs.

- There's a new quest chain that starts at Sentry Point, just outside Theramore. It's a new chapter in the Defias questline, and it has some very interesting implications for the politics surrounding Stormwind. Hopefully this will lead somewhere in the next few patches.

- There's a bunch of "Deserter Agitators" running around Theramore. These are guard mobs that appear to be talking to the regular Theramore guards. They're unhappy about Jaina's alliance with Thrall. They've also taken the tower at Lost Point. There's a quest here, but I'm yet to find out how to start it.

- In what is the single most important change to WoW since launch, Tabetha's hut now has a road that leads right up to it.

- Mudsprocket is in the southwest corner of the zone. I've only just got there, so I haven't checked out the quests yet, but it looks pretty interesting. For the curious, the goblins are all part of the Gadgetzan faction, and not a new Steamwheedle faction as some thought they might be.

[Queenie]

Awesome. It could be, say, a new settlement by the goblins, by goblins from gadgetzan.

[Clift]

While more or less everyone on the server is running ZA, my rogue is undergeared for it, so I decided to head out and see what's happening in Dustwallow Marsh. This is all alliance-side stuff, as I don't have a horde character on the PTRs.

- There's a new quest chain that starts at Sentry Point, just outside Theramore. It's a new chapter in the Defias questline, and it has some very interesting implications for the politics surrounding Stormwind. Hopefully this will lead somewhere in the next few patches.

- There's a bunch of "Deserter Agitators" running around Theramore. These are guard mobs that appear to be talking to the regular Theramore guards. They're unhappy about Jaina's alliance with Thrall. They've also taken the tower at Lost Point. There's a quest here, but I'm yet to find out how to start it.

- In what is the single most important change to WoW since launch, Tabetha's hut now has a road that leads right up to it.

- Mudsprocket is in the southwest corner of the zone. I've only just got there, so I haven't checked out the quests yet, but it looks pretty interesting. For the curious, the goblins are all part of the Gadgetzan faction, and not a new Steamwheedle faction as some thought they might be.

Huzzah for Defias! Was quite disappointing when they seemingly dropped off the face of the earth.

The road to Tabetha's hut is a godsend as well. :D

[Queenie]

yeah. I wanna see what will happen what with the whole king kidnapped and stuff and where it leads.

[TSplodey]

I checked out Mudsprocket just now. 2 houses does not a town make. :P

[StorminNorman]

Mudsprocket is going to need some serious changes before it goes live. Currently, the guards are level 55 non-elites, and their coverage is... terrible. The town was rendered unusable for a time by a single level 70 orc rogue today, and I managed to kill a warlock (who was attacking another alliance character) in the inn with no retribution from the guards or other NPCs.

Why it doesn't have 67 elite guards like all the other goblin towns is a mystery.

Also note that Mudsprocket is really only a small-ish part of the whole Dustwallow revamp. There's several other locations now that provide quests for both factions.

It will make a great alternative to Stranglethorn Vale for high-30s/low-40s levelling.

Oh, and the dragons around Onyxia's lair are no longer elite, inline with the changes to world elites in general.

[TSplodey]

I kind of miss having a reason to group. Dont think they shouldve changed ALL the elites to nonelite.

[Spazzallo]

Source? I've heard nothing of the sort.

WoW Euro Forums http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1152748908&sid=1

There are a few other threads around the Euro forums regarding it as well.

Could be a bug, but I really hope it's not. Finally Rogues will be getting a decent buff (unlike the LOLstep buff we're getting >_>).

[TrinityJayOne]

Keeping it a secret would be the real task. The more people that know, the more chance of the cat being let out of the bag and a large force waiting for them. :P
That's one of the problems with WoW though- transport is very fast and it never takes long for the cavalry to arrive. When a bunch of people try to take out a faction leader, whether it's half a raid or 2 full ones, they'll only have about 10mins to get that leader down before half the server has heard about it and zerged them.

[Queenie]

well why not try and have half the server doing the raid? How awesome would it be to have thousands upon thousands of 70's and things all attacking one place in this massive, massive, MASSIVE battle like lotr or something at orgrimmar or SW or IF. Some place with really big gates and stuff. it'd be so awesome. but really laggy. Someone would have to tape it.

[Queenie]

well why not try and have half the server doing the raid? How awesome would it be to have thousands upon thousands of 70's and things all attacking one place in this massive, massive, MASSIVE battle like lotr or something at orgrimmar or SW or IF. Some place with really big gates and stuff. it'd be so awesome. but really laggy. Someone would have to tape it.

[Clift]

It would bring back the horrible memories of the AQ40 opening event is what it would do! :razz:

[tau]

well why not try and have half the server doing the raid? How awesome would it be to have thousands upon thousands of 70's and things all attacking one place in this massive, massive, MASSIVE battle like lotr or something at orgrimmar or SW or IF. Some place with really big gates and stuff. it'd be so awesome. but really laggy. Someone would have to tape it.

I guess you weren't there at the Ahn'Qiraj opening. Just that happened, with mass server crashes across the board.

[Second]

Servers need an AQ reset. I miss trading in my goods for random stuff. It was fun. :P

[Queenie]

Yeah i only joined the WoW thingo around mid-may this year. Maybe they could make a special lotr server beefed up to deal with that sort of stuff.

[TrinityJayOne]

Maybe have a read about a little game in development called Darkfall, which apparently isn't vaporware like everyone thought. (http://www.lordsofdeath.com/www/?p=12)

[FX-GTZ]

Online gf's rock... (candy sky ftw!)
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/530/wowscrnshot101707122532ku1.jpg
Ahhhhhh.... better not leave her alone for too long, she's still in that same spot.

[Sytadel]

She's a guy.

Also, rofl at this post on WoW general:

4 friends met up in a bar after haven't seen each other for a year.

Dude 1 : "So what's everyone up to these days? My wife and I just had our first baby and we moved into our new house"

Dude 2 : "I just finished my management degree after 6 years of part time study"

Dude 3 : "I've sold my bussiness and currently trying to decide what to do next"

Dude 4 : "My guild just downed Illadin last week"

Dude 1, 2 and 3 proceeded to make fun of Dude 4. Dude 4 got pissed and yell: "YOU GUYS JUST WANT WELFARE EPIX! L2P!!!!1!!!one"

Then some guy replies:

Wait why is guy #4 in a bar? Shouldn't he be farming for consumables or something?

[SOX]

Online gf's rock...
:/
...

[Vindik8or]

Could FX fail in anymore ways?

[Silverwolf]

Could FX fail in anymore ways?
He could be alliance...

[Second]

I've been having a lot more fun lately, now that I've got my Shaman on Frosty (level 50). Been trying to get his Mining and Skinning up mostly, but also doing ZF runs. Havin' a great time. :D

[TrinityJayOne]

She's a guy.

Also, rofl at this post on WoW general:

4 friends met up in a bar after haven't seen each other for a year.

Dude 1 : "So what's everyone up to these days? My wife and I just had our first baby and we moved into our new house"

Dude 2 : "I just finished my management degree after 6 years of part time study"

Dude 3 : "I've sold my bussiness and currently trying to decide what to do next"

Dude 4 : "My guild just downed Illadin last week"

Dude 1, 2 and 3 proceeded to make fun of Dude 4. Dude 4 got pissed and yell: "YOU GUYS JUST WANT WELFARE EPIX! L2P!!!!1!!!one"
This reminds me of an announcement I saw on the Nihilum site that I got linked to from Wowhead. In celebration of their new website, they were having a comp where everyone who commented on the announcement post got put into the draw to win a t-shirt/s SIGNED BY THE MEMBERS OF NIHILUM HOLY CRAP WOW!!! Jesus christ they're kids in a basement, worshipped by other kids who don't live in the basement but wish they could.

[TSplodey]

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Hoooray!

[TSplodey]

Double post, but meh. :)
WoW Euro Forums http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1152748908&sid=1

There are a few other threads around the Euro forums regarding it as well.

Could be a bug, but I really hope it's not. Finally Rogues will be getting a decent buff (unlike the LOLstep buff we're getting >_>).

--Player is losing control of his character when distracted.

Its a bug.

[tau]

Working as intended imo. They're distracted! It makes as much sense as fear making you run around in circles helplessly.

[TrinityJayOne]

http://members.optusnet.com.au/trinityjayone/Mounted.jpg

http://members.optusnet.com.au/trinityjayone/VinArty.jpg

http://members.optusnet.com.au/trinityjayone/flapflapflap.jpg

Props to Silverwolf and Vin for helping me along the way, and also to Teegles for random quest assistance!

[FX-GTZ]

Could FX fail in anymore ways?
Why dont you shut up you asshole, i dont put you down about your successful crap you do. SO **** YOU

[Vindik8or]

Do something successful, I won't put you down for it.

[Sytadel]

Goddamn, Trin already has his flight form, and Syt doesn't even have 1/10th of the gold needed to buy 300 riding skill >_>. I'll get it... one day.

Also, FX, how old are you? Not to put you down but... serious question.

Also:

http://members.optusnet.com.au/trinityjayone/Mounted.jpg

Lets get mouldy in this thread so I can pep him.

[FX-GTZ]

Oh... btw, this new gf does exist.... heres your proof, assholes:
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1927/fabianvq0.jpg

[Vindik8or]

I can google image search too!

[Second]

Oh... btw, this new gf does exist.... heres your proof, assholes:
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1927/fabianvq0.jpg
http://will.incorrige.us/facepalm/picard.jpeg

[FX-GTZ]

I can google image search too!
Wow, stfu i know it is a pic of her. Ever heard of webcams noob? naaaarrrrr didnt think so, so shut up you dumb shi....

[Second]

Wow, stfu i know it is a pic of her. Ever heard of webcams noob? naaaarrrrr didnt think so, so shut up you dumb shi....
http://will.incorrige.us/facepalm/picard.jpeg

[Dunkurtin]

Its ok FX, i believe you.

I also believe your gf spends her weekends getting ****ed by big hairy bikers that she picks up at pubs.

[TSplodey]

http://will.incorrige.us/facepalm/picard.jpeg
hmmmm

[Vindik8or]

Wow, stfu i know it is a pic of her. Ever heard of webcams noob? naaaarrrrr didnt think so, so shut up you dumb shi....
First: look at me! I can type 'shit' on the internet!

Second: that's first the excuse of someone who used google image search.

[StorminNorman]

So I got my 48 Paladin on the test server to try out this "accelerated levelling. Level 48 now has a requirement of 110K XP, as opposed to (I think) 140ish before.

Also, a couple of my gear pieces have had upgrades, including Icemetal Barbute and Carapace of Tuten'khash. Also, Sang'thraze The Deflector is now "Unique-Equipped".

Also, "The Ancient Egg" is no longer an elite quest.

[Araenel]

So I got my 48 Paladin on the test server to try out this "accelerated levelling. Level 48 now has a requirement of 110K XP, as opposed to (I think) 140ish before.

Also, a couple of my gear pieces have had upgrades, including Icemetal Barbute and Carapace of Tuten'khash. Also, Sang'thraze The Deflector is now "Unique-Equipped".

Also, "The Ancient Egg" is no longer an elite quest.

Aww man, Jinth'Alor is no longer an instance outside an instance?

That was such a sweet place to hit up with a higher level char and clear through for ++exp.

[Mouldy]

Lets get mouldy in this thread so I can pep him.

Hello :P

Also, Dinged 70 yesterday and got my flying mount! :D

[Theiffy]

Who cares who FX goes out with <_<

This halloween thing is awesome! Not only did Pheromone get a new dmg ring, she also got the healing one too! Aaaand Mirabelle got the attack power ring!

Still wanting that plate helm for her though, pst if you guys wanna do the Headless loot pinata!

[Flaps]

Aww man, Jinth'Alor is no longer an instance outside an instance?

That was such a sweet place to hit up with a higher level char and clear through for ++exp.

Amen to that, that place was wicked. It was like a free-for-all sometimes too, with both factions hitting it up at the same time.

[Flaps]

Aww man, Jinth'Alor is no longer an instance outside an instance?

That was such a sweet place to hit up with a higher level char and clear through for ++exp.

Amen to that, that place was wicked. It was like a free-for-all sometimes too, with both factions hitting it up at the same time.

Wow, stfu i know it is a pic of her. Ever heard of webcams noob? naaaarrrrr didnt think so, so shut up you dumb shi....

how do you live

[Queenie]

Don't forget how if 3 or 4 groups ended up doing it at the same time it was this massive fun kill-fest.

[GT_Racer]

Was sweet yesterday, picked up the Horseman's Helm first run, was very lucky. Just need the ring now.

I love the green smoke trail it leaves behind you, looks like the gasses coming from my butt in real life :razz:

[TrinityJayOne]

Don't forget how if 3 or 4 groups ended up doing it at the same time it was this massive fun kill-fest.
After I had done a few runs today (got both caster rings for Moo :D), I hopped on Shaanqy for some fun cos there were lots of Alliance and all the Horde were being pussies. I went in & out up to the instance limit then hid around the corner behind the portal putting SoC on anyone I could target. Good times! :D

[Bob the Destroyer]

Yeah I got my hat after about 10 runs yesterday, pretty fun boss and not bad epics from it.

Now question: is 121 hit rating (approx 8%) worth respeccing to Fury? Even with 3 points in Precision thats only 11% chance to hit thats still 14% miss rate. Now on top of that, the Ragesteel 2 set bonus has the additional 20hit rating but it means major gimping of my current gear (probably replace shoulders and one other thing) untill I can get some sweet T4 action.

[Sytadel]

Yeah, the horsemen event is very fun. Nice to see Blizzard doing some voice acting. Wish it was a bit harder though - we did it with a 69 warrior, and it's meant to be comparable to a heroic boss!

I would like the DPS/Stamina ring on Maynard, but afaik syt doesn't need anything. Syt has a flying broom though and that's what really counts.

[Theiffy]

Yo syt, my warrior needs the plate helm still we should all form a group >_>

Edit: yeah it's hella easy, one of the LTCH holy paladins tanked him and i dpsed on my 66 warrior and Necrodermis was on his 62 feral druid aaaand someone was dpsing on his resto shaman and we killed him just fine o.O

Oh yeah, and another LTCH warlock who was pewpew

[Bob the Destroyer]

Youse guys aren't answering my question though

[Silverwolf]

Put simply bob, no.
Eg, rogue needs at least 150 for kara and thats including the +5% hit talent.

[Bob the Destroyer]

So bascially 2Her spec untill I get enough gear with +hit rating on it to go fury.

Makes a crazy sort of sense to me

[StorminNorman]

Question for Protadins:

In 2.3, would you choose Combat Expertise (+10 Expertise, +10% Stamina) over Ardent Defender (30% damage reduction when health <35%)?

I'm leaning towards the idea that more stam = more better.

[TSplodey]

Or both?

[StorminNorman]

Well I'm working on the idea that I still want a 10/44/7 build, so both is a bit out of the question.

[Queenie]

Awesome!

good in new patch- arms warriors now have death wish so no need to stance dance for a bit of fear immunity!

badside- talent was switched with sweeping strikes.

Stormy just think of what is the better thing, and leave the less important till WoTLK and 10 more talent points.

[StorminNorman]

Just for anyone doing Jintha'Alor: Vile Priestess Hexx is still not soloable, as she will simply chain-hex you until you die.

[tau]

LOL

Sounds awesome.

[StorminNorman]

Oh yeah. Mind you, it probably didn't help that I'm level 48 and she's level 51 and that I had no way to keep interrupting her heals as a prot paladin.

Apart from that, though, I did manage to solo the Ancient Egg quest, just to see if a level 48 Paladin could. Took about two hours all up, but if you're looking for a "solo instance", the new Jintha'Alor is as close as you'll get for now.

[TSplodey]

So I take it you want Imp SoR? Tbh I dont think its worth it currently (including come 2.3 when the Prot tree, to put it quite simply, will be bloated with talents.). Sure the 10% bonus Int wouldnt hurt, but its not worth it for the stuff you can get in the other trees.

Right now I am going to be 0/49/12, but next patch its going to be hard to decide. Pursuit of Justice is going to have 1/2/3% to avoid spells next patch, as well as being buffed to 5/10/15% movespeed. Reducing spell damage taken is never a bad thing, and neither is mobility as a tank. Problem is, spending 15 points in ret leaves barely enough for what I want in Prot. I suppose if I get geared enough I could take points out of Anticipation (maybe?).

So long story short, I dont think theres enough talent point love to go 10 into Holy and still have the good Prot/Ret talents.

[Vindik8or]

I'm going to almost have to go 0/61/0 next patch =|

[StorminNorman]

I'm probably more interested in Imp Judgement than Imp SoR, to be honest, as Imp Judgement is a huge gain in threat for a Protadin (assuming you spam JoR like I tend to.) I was simply working on the idea that Imp SoR gives me more damage from SoR, and more damage = more threat = more better.

Of course, if you know otherwise, feel free to say something.

EDIT: Quick research seems to show that dropping reckoning is the popular choice.

[TSplodey]

Well imo Imp Judgement > Imp SoR for sure. Aside from the extra threat from extra JoR's, being able to change Judgements more often is never a bad thing.

And yeah Ive noticed Reckoning is the popular choice to drop next patch, which makes me a sad panda.

[StorminNorman]

Someone mentioned that the problem with Reckoning is that it actually gets less useful as you stack up on avoidance. I can't quite figure out how this works, to be honest.

For whatever reason, I haven't taken Anticipation, so that's where I'll be getting the extra points I need from.

[Sytadel]

Hunters
There is now a Mortal Strike effect (Healing done on the target reduced by 50%, Duration 10 seconds) on Aimed Shot. This is a physical effect.
The min range to shot has been reduced from 8 yards to 4 yards. The "dead zone" is now pretty much removed.

Ugnh, yeah...

However, I'm not too sure how useful it'll be if it's only on Aimed Shot. We'll see I guess, better than nothing. The deadzone change is huge though.

[Flaps]

Ugnh, yeah...

However, I'm not too sure how useful it'll be if it's only on Aimed Shot. We'll see I guess, better than nothing. The deadzone change is huge though.

Can you confirm the validity of this information

[StorminNorman]

It's on the PTR as we speak.

[Flaps]

Excellent

[Queenie]

PTR realm is awesome right now. The new Dustwallow quests are awesome. that giant sea monster one was awesome.

[FX-GTZ]

This is one of many reason's why i hate nvidia,
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2430/wowscrnshot100307103240ul4.png
i really need an ati card again.

[Second]

... Why do you blot out random shit? Seriously.

[Theiffy]

Maybe he's removing valid stuff this time tho, like private chat with his girlfriend. <_< He used to just remove his name before for some reason o.O

[TrinityJayOne]

http://members.optusnet.com.au/trinityjayone/banished.jpg

D:

[StorminNorman]

I... can't figure out what's going on in either of those screenshots.

[Queenie]

neither can I... but is that last one taken in Dire Maul?

[Araenel]

Noobs, it's Blackheart the Inciter in Shadow Lab. The warlock banished trin when he did the mass MC thing.

[tau]

This is one of many reason's why i hate nvidia,
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2430/wowscrnshot100307103240ul4.png
i really need an ati card again.


So what the hell is actually wrong?

[Theiffy]

I'm guessing it's cause his griffon is black! =P

Not to worry, that's just shadowform D:

Edit: i think his actual problem is the brightness. y/n?

[tau]

That's a little thing called bloom! I mean ****, he's staring right at the sun :/

[FX-GTZ]

That's a little thing called bloom! I mean ****, he's staring right at the sun :/
Yeah... Far too much bloom, when i used to play WoW on my ati card, things were alot more toned down, especially with bloom.

[TSplodey]

That pic of trin is gold. Was that attempt successful?

[Silverwolf]

http://members.optusnet.com.au/trinityjayone/banished.jpg

D:

lollin, i know pixei (the lock) too!

[tau]

Yeah... Far too much bloom, when i used to play WoW on my ati card, things were alot more toned down, especially with bloom.

...

YOU'RE STARING STRAIGHT AT THE SUN.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/tau/WoWScrnShot_102107_133537.jpg

Quit bitching. I wish I had an nVidia. ATI are unstable pieces of crap.

I'd say since in your screenshot it's sunset/sunrise, and you have the land distance on low, the fog + bloom makes your view very washed out.

[Flaps]

If that is one of the many reasons he hates nVidia I'd love to hear the others.

[StorminNorman]

Noobs, it's Blackheart the Inciter in Shadow Lab. The warlock banished trin when he did the mass MC thing.
Ah yes, I see it now. The purple arrow painted on the picture was misdirecting me for some reason.

[FX-GTZ]

If that is one of the many reasons he hates nVidia I'd love to hear the others.
Well lets see, the ****ing piece of shit video card crashes on me for no reason apon exiting WoW, and i havent modified or installed any programs that may have unbalanced the cards settings. ****ing piece of shit card, i bought this pc brand ****ing new too.

[Sytadel]

maybe you should invite your g/f over to have a look. oh wait she doesn't live anywhere near you

[Flaps]

Well lets see, the ****ing piece of shit video card crashes on me for no reason apon exiting WoW, and i havent modified or installed any programs that may have unbalanced the cards settings. ****ing piece of shit card, i bought this pc brand ****ing new too.

Update drivers please

[FX-GTZ]

maybe you should invite your g/f over to have a look. oh wait she doesn't live anywhere near you
Sadly she doesnt know shit about computers... She isnt dumb, she just doesnt get heavily involved into technical crap.

[SOX]

Sadly he doesnt know shit about computers... he isnt dumb, he just doesnt get heavily involved into technical crap.
Fix'd

[FX-GTZ]

Fix'd
Oi, stop twisting my words.

[Theiffy]

That pic of trin is gold. Was that attempt successful?

Yeah it was, he wasn't banished for long, so we kept pewpewing after that. <_<

maybe you should invite your g/f over to have a look. oh wait she doesn't live anywhere near you

You don't even *have* one! <_<

[Sytadel]

You don't even *have* one! <_<

<this space is reserved for future retort>

[Sytadel]

Well info regarding BG/Heroic dailys is now up on PTR; Heroic dailys give 25g and 2 badges, and require you to kill the end-boss. Not too shabby, good but not enough to make them preferable for gold farming but definetly incentivises the obscure heroics. More interesting is that battleground dailys, which just require a win in a random BG, give 12g, 3 marks, and 2,000 honor. For the record this means 30 mins - 1 hour of PvP a day will net you an epic a week, and pretty much the full set in 6-8. Bit excessive IMO but I'm not a fan of the grind, so you won't hear me complaining (aside from just then).

[Queenie]

well if they implement that in next patch they can't remove it till WoTLK so it's all good i reckon.

[FX-GTZ]

Holy shit... i think i just lost my 65 orc hunter. Not on purpose, i was simply riding the UC elevator, and didnt move an inch, and straight away when i heard the elevator hit the floor below, i had gotten disconnected from server. I logged back in, tried the same character, instantly disconnected from server again. I tried again, but instead this time tried to move, my character wouldnt move... I logged back in once more to make sure my other characters were working, they still are... I think i just lost my hunter. : (

[Vindik8or]

See if he can figure out opening a ticket.

[Mouldy]

Holy shit... i think i just lost my 65 orc hunter. Not on purpose, i was simply riding the UC elevator, and didnt move an inch, and straight away when i heard the elevator hit the floor below, i had gotten disconnected from server. I logged back in, tried the same character, instantly disconnected from server again. I tried again, but instead this time tried to move, my character wouldnt move... I logged back in once more to make sure my other characters were working, they still are... I think i just lost my hunter. : (

Just reroll. Easy fixed.

[FX-GTZ]

See if he can figure out opening a ticket.
Why dont you shut the **** up and stop treating me like a dumb shit you asshole.

[Vindik8or]

So what you're saying is that you can't, and don't know how to auto-unstuck? Or even hearth?

[tau]

Why dont you shut the **** up and stop treating me like a dumb shit you asshole.

It'd probably help you if you stopped constantly proving him right.

[FX-GTZ]

So what you're saying is that you can't, and don't know how to auto-unstuck? Or even hearth?
I cant hearth or get unstuck because i instantly get disconnected before being able to even do anything, as i said, im stuck under the floor of UC, FFS!!! this is pissing me off.

[Vindik8or]

So hop on another toon and open a ticket, sweetness and light.

[Vindik8or]

So I got off my lazy arse and updated my wowace updater in a tentative effort to update all of my mods. Dear god what a mess. Fortunately I had the foresight to create a backup of my addons and WTF folders.

So my question is this: if I completely trash my addons and start from scratch, will it be possible to preserve all of my PitBull settings, because that thing is a complete dick to set up?

[Queenie]

not if you find the preferences file. On mine, there's something called

*insertfiletyperofthingohere, eg pitbullpreferences*.preferences.plist

[Simes]

So I got off my lazy arse and updated my wowace updater in a tentative effort to update all of my mods. Dear god what a mess. Fortunately I had the foresight to create a backup of my addons and WTF folders.

So my question is this: if I completely trash my addons and start from scratch, will it be possible to preserve all of my PitBull settings, because that thing is a complete dick to set up?

Should be able to keep the settings, go into the PitBull folder in Addons and there should be a text file or something similar that has the configured settings you have applied. Copy the settings or the file in whole, then paste it back in when update the addon itself.

If the file keeps the version as well you will need to do some creative cutting and pasting into the new settings file to make it the current version. Hope this helps you :-)

Also used to play on Greymane as a 70 Feral Druid, but stopped playing one day because I was sick of other players whispering for a heal/wanting to heal in a dungeon/or telling me how to tank.

[StorminNorman]

So my question is this: if I completely trash my addons and start from scratch, will it be possible to preserve all of my PitBull settings, because that thing is a complete dick to set up?
I'm pretty sure AddOn settings are stored inside the WTF folder, so in theory it shouldn't be a problem to nuke the AddOns folder. I've done it one or two times and not had any trouble.

[TrinityJayOne]

That used to be the case with all of my mods, but now my WTF folder is fairly barren and nearly everything keeps it's settings in the lua itself. I'm running on something like 85% Ace now, so maybe its an Ace thing?

[TrinityJayOne]

I'm sure Syt can relate to this and find the humour. :D

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366693453&sid=1

[Sytadel]

I'm sure Syt can relate to this and find the humour. :D

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366693453&sid=1

Ahahahahahaha! PEP INC.

Yeah, I'm normally not one to make a big deal of aesthetics - but that all bears, kitties, and travels look the same is ridiculous.

Also: To apply to LTCH as survival or to NOT? Who knows!

[StorminNorman]

I love how, every so often, the WoW forums generate a real gem of a thread amongst all the crap that goes on there.

[TrinityJayOne]

I'm STILL chuckling at it. :P

[TSplodey]

Finally got it. Finally finished. Pally dinged lv70 tonight. :D