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Xanafalgue

22-12-2009, 12:51 PM

The graphics aren't really looking that great this time around, a bit odd considering the ps1 and ps2 FF titles were graphical pinnacle of what the console could do.

I think they look great, but I'm not especially fussy when it comes to RPG graphics.

http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu224/Deepershadeof/FFXIII_lightning_screen.jpg

Perhaps the fanboys just feel let down because they regurgitated that picture endlessly and touted it as real-time? (in b4 downgrade because of 360 :rolleyes: )

Lazlow

22-12-2009, 12:53 PM

Except that FFVII looked (and still looks) like dick

Shit was boss when it came out though >_>

concrete donkey

22-12-2009, 01:24 PM

I think they look great, but I'm not especially fussy when it comes to RPG graphics.

http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu224/Deepershadeof/FFXIII_lightning_screen.jpg

Perhaps the fanboys just feel let down because they regurgitated that picture endlessly and touted it as real-time? (in b4 downgrade because of 360 :rolleyes: )

thats video

Xanafalgue

22-12-2009, 01:28 PM

thats video

Exactly, didn't stop them though, did it. Perhaps I just used to spend too much time lurking in System Wars :p

concrete donkey

25-12-2009, 09:13 AM

Exactly, didn't stop them though, did it. Perhaps I just used to spend too much time lurking in System Wars :p

Why are people judging the game yet anyway? Im also surprised that people are bitching about having to change discs during the game on 360. Lost Odyssey was fantastic and having to change a disc every 20 hours didnt hurt the game at all. Has it every ruined a game? Or is it just a straw that sony fanbois are clutching at to try and justify their system?

JubeiSaotome

25-12-2009, 09:25 AM

Except that FFVII looked (and still looks) like dick

You have to remember that 32/64bit was in the period where everything looked ugly because developers were really only starting to focus on 3D. 16 bit games on the SNES and SMD have that timeless charm, but when you go back to early PS1 games, they all look rough as hell.

On that point, what they were able to do with the technology they had was astounding at the time.

Onikage

26-12-2009, 02:05 AM

Beinkasaurus Rex

13-01-2010, 01:16 PM

I'm going to point out that none of us here have actually played FFXIII <_<

AranchineD

13-01-2010, 01:19 PM

I'm going to point out that none of us here have actually played FFXIII <_<

Which is a fact that means nothing!

Halt, Hammerzeit

13-01-2010, 01:38 PM

I'm going to point out that none of us here have actually played FFXIII <_<

It's an FF game. How different is it really going to be to all the other FF games out there?

AranchineD

13-01-2010, 01:40 PM

Well it's completely different.

Which is why everyone is sad for the game in the first place.

Beinkasaurus Rex

13-01-2010, 01:52 PM

It's an FF game. How different is it really going to be to all the other FF games out there?

...uhh that still doesn't mean anyone can ask the game specific questions the scrub has? bronze might've played (and understood) it, but i don't think you, nor i have. ie; FF8 wasn't really a grind, at least for me, nor was X, but 7 and the original 2 I had to grind for.
hur hur hur grind

Beinkasaurus Rex

13-01-2010, 01:55 PM

Well it's completely different.

Which is why everyone is sad for the game in the first place.

this is what baffles me, besides famitsu (personally i've never read any of their reviews but everyone ****s on about the scores they give, which annoys me in god knows how many ways) the game has generally been fairly well received - and of course its going to have some ****ing similar traits to the previous games in the series. Everyone already knows that so why does some derpa derp need to point something so blatant out?

Gee_Yai_Bro

13-01-2010, 02:06 PM

I'm going to point out that none of us here have actually played FFXIII <_<

Ha, I considered starting a new game and trying to clock it when I went home for the holidays. Glad I didn't, played Street Fighter Aplha 3 and Evil Zone instead

Beinkasaurus Rex

13-01-2010, 02:55 PM

see; above post
oh wait, i took it out. i swear i mentioned something about some people playing it (ie bronze). I've never read any of your posts, I lurk off topic =P

Super Mario

13-01-2010, 03:03 PM

I plan on getting it the day it comes out and taking 2 weeks off work. :)

Rambo

13-01-2010, 04:50 PM

I still think it will be amazing, but I'm a sucker for all JRPGS.

I played through most of Star Ocean on 360. Yeah, that's right. Although the little girl freaked me the **** out.

concrete donkey

13-01-2010, 07:45 PM

do we know yet how many discs the 360 version will be on? Official?

FF Freak

13-01-2010, 09:55 PM

I haven't seen any announcements but the PS3 version is supposed to be on a 36gig blue-ray disc so a conservative estimate would be 5-6 discs. could be less or more though and I'm just going off the fact that when I install to my harddrive the file size is about 6.8 gig for games.

buckstwits

13-01-2010, 10:21 PM

Wasn't there something about downsampling in the 360 version so it'd less discs? I remember reading something about that

grimace06

13-01-2010, 10:44 PM

I'm pretty sure 360 discs can hold up to 9 gigs - so it'll possibly be 4 discs.

Beinkasaurus Rex

13-01-2010, 10:54 PM

I don't see how the amount of discs matters to be honest. I'm getting it on PS3 =]]

AranchineD

13-01-2010, 10:55 PM

Actually seems it's only 3 discs.

FF Freak

13-01-2010, 11:07 PM

I don't see how the amount of discs matters to be honest.

imo it doesn't matter but for some people disc swapping is a pain in the ass and they cbf dealing with it. as long as it doesn't require disc changing to back track like Star Ocean 4 then I'll be more than happy myself.

Beinkasaurus Rex

13-01-2010, 11:11 PM

imo it doesn't matter but for some people disc swapping is a pain in the ass and they cbf dealing with it. as long as it doesn't require disc changing to back track like Star Ocean 4 then I'll be more than happy myself.

Honest to God if someone decided to not play a game as a result of swapping discs I wonder how they cope with day to day life. ****ing neckbeards

Blue

14-01-2010, 03:20 AM

Disc-swapping is a stupid criticism, especially for a game like FFXIII that is entirely linear and requires no backtracking. You can't swap two discs out over the course of a fifty hour game?

Cerebral

14-01-2010, 03:33 AM

So I've never played any of the single player Final Fantasy games before. I was thinking about making FFXIII my first. What am I getting myself into? What can I expect? Does it get repetitive? In between story points, is it a grind? Is the combat system rewarding? All I have to go off really is FFXI, and that was all about the grind (which I happily endured).
If you happily endured the grind of any MMO then you're fine with any mainstream FF game (in fact try out FFXII, it probably has the most grind of any FF game I've played but is still somewhat satisfying).

Xanafalgue

14-01-2010, 03:41 AM

I'm getting less and less excited about FFXIII the more I hear about it...

/backslash

14-01-2010, 04:18 AM

Saw the dubbed trailer on Kotaku a few minutes ago:
http://kotaku.com/5446456/new-final-fantasy-trailer-includes-lovely-music-english-voice-acting

I'm surprised that the english dub actually sounds better than the japanese version imo (possibly the first time that's happened), the characters seem to have a bit more personality, not perfect of course but not horribly bad either. I'm actually looking forward to this game now :) Only 1.5 months away, just after the release of Heavy Rain, damnit....

Any collector's edition I should know about?

Blue

14-01-2010, 04:34 AM

I'm about to clock FFX, so I'm probably not that desperately keen to jump straight back into an identical experience.

concrete donkey

14-01-2010, 08:29 AM

I don't see how the amount of discs matters to be honest. I'm getting it on PS3 =]]

Disc swapping dosnt bother me, im just curious. Plenty of games have had disc swapping in them, it didnt hamper the experience. And yeah, im guessing there will be a couple of different Collectors editions for this. Hopefully a soundtrack will be part of it.

Super Mario

14-01-2010, 08:46 AM

Saw the dubbed trailer on Kotaku a few minutes ago:
http://kotaku.com/5446456/new-final-fantasy-trailer-includes-lovely-music-english-voice-acting

OMFG! :eek:

Cerebral

14-01-2010, 11:30 AM

FF Freak

14-01-2010, 12:13 PM

trailer has me really hyped for the game again. For once I'm not hating the english dub of a FF game. Both X and XII I hated the english dub. Also gives a little insight into what the story might be about.

As for collector's editions I'm hoping that one gets announced and then I'll change my pre-order to it but so far again I've seen nothing.

Shin_Battousai

14-01-2010, 12:59 PM

They did say there'd be a CE a month ago, but there's been no more info about it since then

http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/2009/12/13/final-fantasy-xiii-limited-collector-s-edition-announced.html

/backslash

14-01-2010, 01:11 PM

They did say there'd be a CE a month ago, but there's been no more info about it since then

http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/2009/12/13/final-fantasy-xiii-limited-collector-s-edition-announced.html
Hmm, very weird. Hope its not a last minute thing

Anyway with the dubbed trailer you can download either the SD or HD version here
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/final-fantasy-xiii/2649
I just downloaded the 100mb HD trailer so I can watch it again :D

Halt, Hammerzeit

14-01-2010, 05:06 PM

Gotta admit, that looks pretty cool.

Citizen Erased

14-01-2010, 05:20 PM

Looks like SquareEnix have been watching too many Michael Bay films, still looks pretty freak'n awesome.

Gee_Yai_Bro

14-01-2010, 08:20 PM

24,000 damage? What happened to 9,999 being the max?
Trailer looks alright, not impressed by the characters although seeing Token in there cracked me up, that and he looks like CSI dude. Oh and the Alex from Street Fighter 3 reject.

/backslash

14-01-2010, 08:38 PM

I've watched the trailer about 10 times now, not too sure if I'm being influenced by the song or voice acting or both :p A solid improvement on FFXII where I felt like falling asleep everytime somebody talked, FFX actually had it nailed for Rikku, Wakka & Lulu but failed for everyone else - especially Tidus & Yuna

FF Freak

14-01-2010, 11:31 PM

It could be the voice acting because I found that watching the trailer the VA work sound a lot cleaner and crisper than XII which sounds very grainy to me.

Beinkasaurus Rex

15-01-2010, 12:53 AM

Cannot wait =OOO

igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

15-01-2010, 12:56 AM

24,000 damage? What happened to 9,999 being the max?

Was introduced in FFX

banjoeskimo

15-01-2010, 06:26 PM

I'm not really sure how, but I've managed to miss out on the FF series entirely until now, so I've decided to finally take the plunge with XIII. Assuming that goes well, I look forward to catching up on X and XII once the early 2010 deluge is over (Mass Effect, BioShock, God of War, Splinter Cell etc).

Also? FFXIII summons look badass. Totally digging the whole half mech look.

Nintendork

15-01-2010, 06:45 PM

concrete donkey

15-01-2010, 07:04 PM

Skip all that shit and just play IV.

FFX was a great game! Easily my fave FF.

Blue

15-01-2010, 07:18 PM

I hated X when I was younger, but now it's my second favourite, after VII. Having said that, I haven't played IX (although I'm not sure it'd really resonate with me), nor have I played VI (I'll wait for DS remake, cheers). I didn't like VIII at all, and the characters and combat system in XII were bland.

If they'd taken the open-world, MMORPG-style aspects of XII, and blended it with X's interesting characters, it would have made for a great XIII. I'll still play it, sure, but I'll probably knock it over in five or ten days, and then trade it in. I hear EB has 14 day return now?

The one thing I don't like is the lack of towns. I like the break they give you from battling, and the excitement of coming across a new town on a world map, giving you the chance for some character interaction after a lonely trek, and some new Mithril Armlets from the store. It's like in LOTR; they fight for awhile, and run across some fields before getting to some Elven town for some hot Liv Tyler interracial. Then they're off again. Buying weapons from a menu or a single travelling vendor isn't as much fun.

AranchineD

16-01-2010, 04:58 AM

There's no towns because the game went multiplatform, you should blame Xbros for everything wrong with FFXIII.

/backslash

16-01-2010, 05:26 AM

The one thing I don't like is the lack of towns. I like the break they give you from battling, and the excitement of coming across a new town on a world map, giving you the chance for some character interaction after a lonely trek, and some new Mithril Armlets from the store. It's like in LOTR; they fight for awhile, and run across some fields before getting to some Elven town for some hot Liv Tyler interracial. Then they're off again. Buying weapons from a menu or a single travelling vendor isn't as much fun.
There was one RPG I played (can't remember the name of it tho, or what it looks like) where all the 'shops' were done by menu screens so you didn't interact with anyone. I like my towns, they usually have some fun mini-games in it too

There's no towns because the game went multiplatform, you should blame Xbros for everything wrong with FFXIII.
Wait, so there's no towns for FFXIII? Sucks! :(

FF Freak

16-01-2010, 02:17 PM

There's no towns because the game went multiplatform, you should blame Xbros for everything wrong with FFXIII.

ah ha...so blame the console, it's developer whatever because as a late decision it was decided that the game would go multiplatform outside of japan? I don't see the logic since pretty much every (if not every) X360 JRPG I've played still has towns/hubs left in. But I agree no towns sucks...and the fact that there's no backtracking makes me wonder about what sidequests will be like if there's any.

on a completely unrelated note I read that Square is considering going outside Japan for developers for the next FF game (after 14) and westernizing the series.

Cerebral

16-01-2010, 02:31 PM

I've heard the 360 simply cannot cope with the PS3's inbuilt Synergistic Town Processing Units.

V²

16-01-2010, 02:57 PM

I though it was because of the PS3 Shopping Huts In Towns acronym system

Shin_Battousai

16-01-2010, 03:35 PM

Maybe part of the content that was enough to make another game

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/13/square-enix-cut-a-games-worth-of-content-from-final-fantasy-xii/

AranchineD

16-01-2010, 03:41 PM

First comment: "Ugh.....Do you guys think that the Limitations that the Xbox 360 has, has anything to do with this?"

*close tab*

FF Freak

16-01-2010, 04:13 PM

Fourth comment: "The "limitations of the 360" pretty much boils down to DVD space, and there's nothing stopping them from making it a 4-dvd game. I also doubt they would have invested in porting the game to the 360 if it meant throwing away months or years worth of the content that they'd already developed."

It seems pretty much a revolving point about why the stuff was cut that's all speculation. other arguments in those comments include the fact a lot of stuff was cut during playtests, that they were probably cut before the decision to port to X360, and whether it was Microsoft or Square who approached the other about getting FF13 on the X360. As well as suggestions that some of the cut content may be added as DLC (which I see doubtful). Most valid point I saw was if it was going to cut back on so much of the content and hinder the way the game was received why did Square decide/agree to go multiplatform.

what I'm interested in right now is what they'll do with XIII-Versus and XIII-Agito. if we don't see towns in either of those then we know it was deliberate. versus though I'm certain they'll learn from the criticism of FF13.

Blue

16-01-2010, 09:36 PM

ah ha...so blame the console, it's developer whatever because as a late decision it was decided that the game would go multiplatform outside of japan? I don't see the logic since pretty much every (if not every) X360 JRPG I've played still has towns/hubs left in. But I agree no towns sucks...and the fact that there's no backtracking makes me wonder about what sidequests will be like if there's any.

on a completely unrelated note I read that Square is considering going outside Japan for developers for the next FF game (after 14) and westernizing the series.Haha, dude … It was a ****ing joke. Jesus. Couldn't pick up on the BLATANT sarcasm?

Anyway, towns are sweet. Imagine Ocarina of Time without towns or a free-roaming world, where you just walked along a path through Hyrule field and up Mount Kakariko, and through Kokiri Forest, and all of that, from temple to temple, without stopping at Kakariko Village or Hyrule Castle Town. It'd be SO- ****ING- SHIT- . No archery minigames, no Giant's Knife quest, no collecting cuckoos. No freedom, just a linear slog through battles in the field and temple after temple.

Man, OoT is so much better than FFXIII.

Man,

FF Freak

16-01-2010, 09:56 PM

Haha, dude … It was a ****ing joke. Jesus. Couldn't pick up on the BLATANT sarcasm?

You do realise this is the internet. Sarcasm has no where near the same affect as it does from spoken mouth and isn't as obvious as you say it is. You say he was sarcastic but that's only the way you read it <.<
But I've had this argument many a time on the internet that I'm tired of it.

So back to FF discussion. I think the two peaks in the FF series are VI and IX...I say that simply because for me VII was completely overrated as I played it after all the hype it was given and I just didn't see it in the same light. That said it's probably not surprising that XIII has been getting rather poor reviews...I'm kinda surprised XII got as good reviews as it did back when it was released. However as I stated earlier I think, I've pre-ordered this already as I kinda pride myself on having played every FF that's not an MMO, and for all I know I'll enjoy the story since I seem to enjoy things that the majority appear to hate.

fishonthecarpet

16-01-2010, 10:10 PM

AranchineD

16-01-2010, 10:19 PM

Geez guys, I'm trying to troll PSGay fanbois here, I don't need your valid posts getting in the way of that.

concrete donkey

16-01-2010, 10:45 PM

You do realise this is the internet. Sarcasm has no where near the same affect as it does from spoken mouth and isn't as obvious as you say it is. You say he was sarcastic but that's only the way you read it <.<
But I've had this argument many a time on the internet that I'm tired of it.

So back to FF discussion. I think the two peaks in the FF series are VI and IX...I say that simply because for me VII was completely overrated as I played it after all the hype it was given and I just didn't see it in the same light. That said it's probably not surprising that XIII has been getting rather poor reviews...I'm kinda surprised XII got as good reviews as it did back when it was released. However as I stated earlier I think, I've pre-ordered this already as I kinda pride myself on having played every FF that's not an MMO, and for all I know I'll enjoy the story since I seem to enjoy things that the majority appear to hate.

did you pre-order the ps3 or 360 version?

FF Freak

16-01-2010, 11:48 PM

concrete donkey

17-01-2010, 08:30 AM

pre-ordered the X360 version. Don't actually own a PS3 and probably won't consider getting one till a XIII-Versus release date is announced. plus most of my friends own 360s so we often lend each other games.

i tried looking around and couldnt find a collectors edition. Strange that there still isnt one available. I wonder how definitive the release date is

OOOH, EB gives you a free FF calender if you pre-order.

FF Freak

17-01-2010, 10:23 AM

I preordered at Game since I have enough points on my Gamecard to get a discount.

Blue

17-01-2010, 05:04 PM

Geez guys, I'm trying to troll PSGay fanbois here, I don't need your valid posts getting in the way of that.It was so ****ing obvious. It's just amazing how little effort you had to put into that troll, for such high return. A very well-weighted attempt, evidently.

Xanafalgue

17-01-2010, 08:36 PM

The international trailer for this was disgusting.

Just as I had suspected; Days of Our Lives meets anime.

concrete donkey

19-01-2010, 02:45 PM

Theres a bit of info here about the 360 version of FF13

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9016560

AranchineD

19-01-2010, 02:57 PM

Well, the first comment was actually fair, how about that!

Then 6 comments later things go downhill.

/backslash

19-01-2010, 03:16 PM

Gah, where is the FFXIII CE? :( Should be up somewhere by now. I'd like to import it to save money (about $35) but I may just pay the extra to get it locally on day 1

concrete donkey

19-01-2010, 03:26 PM

Well, the first comment was actually fair, how about that!

Then 6 comments later things go downhill.

WTF? You're a bit of a dick arnt you?

AranchineD

19-01-2010, 03:29 PM

watll

Beinkasaurus Rex

19-01-2010, 07:42 PM

u herd him

Xanafalgue

19-01-2010, 08:15 PM

owned

AranchineD

19-01-2010, 09:11 PM

:(lll

concrete donkey

19-01-2010, 09:13 PM

I found this review of FF13 on rpgfan.

http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/Final_Fantasy_XIII/index.html

Most of their reviews have been pretty spot on in the past.

Natrak

19-01-2010, 09:27 PM

Aran is a ****in' cockgobbler.

/backslash

21-01-2010, 07:36 PM

EB have an offer of a bonus FFXIII 2010 calendar if you pre-order it from them

http://www.ebgames.com.au/images/packshots/ff13_bonus_large.jpg

Calendar looks alright but is it really something you could be bothered using when you're already 1/4 through the year? Probably not

concrete donkey

22-01-2010, 11:55 AM

/backslash

22-01-2010, 12:44 PM

There's gotta be a proper CE coming out <_< FFX had a bonus disc for their first print

Although when you think about it, there's never been a CE for any of the FFs

Shin_Battousai

22-01-2010, 12:51 PM

There was some news about a leak here (http://www.vg247.com/2010/01/20/gamestop-italy-details-ffxiii-collectors-edition/) and the italian gamestop had a page for it. Looks like it's gone now though.

/backslash

22-01-2010, 01:01 PM

The german Amazon.com website had it up but aside from these random store links with no information about the contents it not promising

FF Freak

22-01-2010, 01:23 PM

Although when you think about it, there's never been a CE for any of the FFs

Dissidia is technically Final fantasy and that had a CE. however the numbered FF's have never had a CE afaik, only mediocre collectable stuff for pre-order, like the artwork I got with FFX-2.

V²

22-01-2010, 01:49 PM

You call yourselves FF fans?
http://www.ffcollectorsmuseum.com/2009/07/final-fantasy-viii-limmited-box-europe.html
I even still have mine sitting on my shelf.
You guys should get out of this thread.
Do your research before you post useless uniformed posts.

AranchineD

22-01-2010, 02:00 PM

Y'all been v-owned

Shin_Battousai

22-01-2010, 02:58 PM

FFXII had one too (http://www.mobygames.com/game/final-fantasy-xii-collectors-edition).

FF Freak

22-01-2010, 03:43 PM

the FFXII one is NTSC so US...pretty much useless to those with pal consoles :P

didn't know about the FFVIII one though. I actually got really into Final fantasy after I got a PS2. before that I'd only pretty much played FFIV and FFVI.

T Strife

23-01-2010, 03:49 AM

[Re: CE] There was some news about a leak here (http://www.vg247.com/2010/01/20/gamestop-italy-details-ffxiii-collectors-edition/) and the italian gamestop had a page for it. Looks like it's gone now though.

Confirmed (http://www.vg247.com/2010/01/22/square-announces-ffxiii-collectors-edition/#more-76132).

fishonthecarpet

23-01-2010, 05:33 PM

Keep in mind that the included soundtrack will almost certainly not be the full 5-disc one - just a selection.

concrete donkey

23-01-2010, 06:05 PM

Keep in mind that the included soundtrack will almost certainly not be the full 5-disc one - just a selection.

Thats ok, thats better than a crappy calander

fishonthecarpet

23-01-2010, 06:12 PM

Certainly better but I'd hate to think anyone thought it was the full one.

concrete donkey

23-01-2010, 07:40 PM

Certainly better but I'd hate to think anyone thought it was the full one.

True. I bought the 4 disc set OST to FFX. Fantastic music. it was around $40 to $50

Shin_Battousai

25-01-2010, 10:19 AM

Available for preorder here now

JB (http://www.jbhifi.com.au/games/final-fantasy-XIII-collectors-edition/) with 3 lithographs for preorders
EB (http://www.ebgames.com.au/ps3-149434-Final-Fantasy-XIII-Limited-Collectors-Edition-PlayStation-3) with calendar for preorders.

FF Freak

25-01-2010, 10:42 AM

I might have to change my pre-order since Game doesn't seem to have anything about the Collector's Edition.

Game pre-order's gets a Polypropylene A4 wallet with Snow and Lightning on it. Seems a little bit worse than the calendar.

Edit: Ok Game's getting the Collector's Edition as well. Just that it wasn't listed under their pre-order deals for FFXIII.

fishonthecarpet

25-01-2010, 01:58 PM

Not going to worry - all I'd be worried about is the soundtrack, and instead of forking out an extra $40 for the 'selection' I could get the actual full thing :)

Antwandemarco

25-01-2010, 02:12 PM

I'm sorry but who sits down and listens to a video game soundtrack? "ooh this reminds me of the time i slayed Mardank in the shimmering caves".

Don't get me wrong i like a lot of music in games (especially FF) but i would never listen to it outside of the game.

Then again no special editions of games interest me. The free stuff is always so tacky, i'd be ashamed to display the vast majority of it in my house...

/backslash

25-01-2010, 04:24 PM

Think I might skip on the CE, it seems pretty basic and the additional asking price is way too much even if I imported from the UK ($101 vs $139 JB). Think I'll just get the standard maybe

FF Freak

25-01-2010, 07:40 PM

I'm sorry but who sits down and listens to a video game soundtrack? "ooh this reminds me of the time i slayed Mardank in the shimmering caves".

hmm I've got Xenosaga ep1, persona 3, persona 4, persona1 soundtracks as well as the small selection of songs from the Dissidia and Bayonetta CE's on my Ipod. sometimes it's nice just to listen to instrumental music and I don't even think about where the songs appear in the game.

Pai Mel

25-01-2010, 07:45 PM

Wip3out soundtrack rocks my socks!

concrete donkey

25-01-2010, 07:49 PM

hmm I've got Xenosaga ep1, persona 3, persona 4, persona1 soundtracks as well as the small selection of songs from the Dissidia and Bayonetta CE's on my Ipod. sometimes it's nice just to listen to instrumental music and I don't even think about where the songs appear in the game.

Dont forget Shadow of the colossus sound track! Its fantastic

/backslash

25-01-2010, 07:50 PM

There was a gaming magazine once (some US import from years ago) that was bundled with the FULL soundtrack of the original Wipeout game, unfortunately there was only 1 copy left and the newsagent couldn't find the CD (which was most likely stolen) :(

Xanafalgue

25-01-2010, 09:07 PM

I'm sorry but who sits down and listens to a video game soundtrack? "ooh this reminds me of the time i slayed Mardank in the shimmering caves".

I pull out the Panzer Dragoon OST when I'm studying >_>

/backslash

25-01-2010, 09:11 PM

The Silent Hill tracks are excellent for when I'm doing my artistic things

edit: Cheapest price for the local FFXIII CE seems to be $129 via GAME online. RRP is $140, you'd think JB would be selling it cheaper

devilboy77

27-01-2010, 01:02 AM

wow many ff fans hehehe, so i was wondering, does the jap ver. of FF XIII have eng subs?? i know the english ver. will be out soon..but i can't wait >_<..want 2 get the jap ver. from play-asia site

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Natrak

27-01-2010, 01:04 AM

No english subs in the Japanese version, I'm afraid.

/backslash

27-01-2010, 01:07 AM

Nope, no subs. Plus the wait is almost over anyway

Ad-Rock

27-01-2010, 12:31 PM

Hope FF XIV online turns out better than its MMO predecessor. Sounds like it's shaping up to be a pretty sweet game, although all my info is from the FFXIV website itself not from play-testing.

/backslash

27-01-2010, 12:51 PM

Hope FF XIV online turns out better than its MMO predecessor. Sounds like it's shaping up to be a pretty sweet game, although all my info is from the FFXIV website itself not from play-testing.
I wish the online series had its own name. Its so stupid the way they've done that, especially when you think you've missed one

Pai Mel

27-01-2010, 01:15 PM

But none of them are sequels.

/backslash

27-01-2010, 01:20 PM

But none of them are sequels.
Yeah but none of them aside from FFXI were online only. FF already has a streamline of other FFs that aren't numbered, they could've done that instead

Zace

31-01-2010, 07:28 PM

So who's pre-ordering the special edition?

FF Freak

31-01-2010, 11:22 PM

I changed my pre-order from standard to collector's when i picked up Mass effect 2 on thursday.

/backslash

31-01-2010, 11:44 PM

I've pre-ordered the standard & I'm leaving it where it is. I can easily live without it

Barefooted Hobo

01-02-2010, 12:18 AM

I'll pre-order the CE next week just because I love Final Fantasy. The last CE I bought was Oblivion, I don't buy them often.

topaz

03-02-2010, 03:26 PM

/backslash

03-02-2010, 03:43 PM

I'm gonna pass on the CE, very tempting but still not worth it imo. Gonna order this from an UK online shop somewhere, the RRP in Aus is ridiculous.

The Asian English version is very cheap (less than $70AUD + postage), but I'll go with the EU PAL version since there will probably be FFXIII DLC (didn't know DLC is region locked until recently)
Thats what I did too, blahdvd seems to be the cheapest, got mine for $69 incl p&h. Opted for the UK version in case of DLC & having everything in english

FF Freak

03-02-2010, 04:44 PM

but I'll go with the EU PAL version since there will probably be FFXIII DLC (didn't know DLC is region locked until recently)

Any news on what this DLC will be or is just that there will be some? I hadn't heard anything about DLC but then again I haven't done any recent research on FF13 under fear of stumbling across spoilers.

topaz

03-02-2010, 05:01 PM

Thats what I did too, blahdvd seems to be the cheapest, got mine for $69 incl p&h. Opted for the UK version in case of DLC & having everything in english

Cool...any other UK sites you recommend?

Any news on what this DLC will be or is just that there will be some? I hadn't heard anything about DLC but then again I haven't done any recent research on FF13 under fear of stumbling across spoilers.

DLC isn't confirmed at the moment, but some of the comments made by S-E people strongly suggest that there will be DLC coming.

/backslash

03-02-2010, 05:45 PM

Cool...any other UK sites you recommend?
MyMemory (if you don't mind providing a photo of your bill statement to confirm there's no fraud), sendit.com, zavvi.com & 365games.co.uk :) 365games, MyMemory & blahdvd have the cheapest shipping rates. MyMemory is actually free and their delivery speeds have always been fantastic, I ordered Katamari Forever from them and it was shipped on Saturday, received today :)

Nic Xtreme

03-02-2010, 06:34 PM

Is Xbox Live DLC compatible in different regions? i.e. if I buy the UK FFXIII can I still get the DLC?

Pai Mel

03-02-2010, 06:43 PM

http://www.cdwow.com.au/games/Final-Fantasy-XIII-Xbox-360/dp/pc/9857465

CDWow has Final Fantasy XIII for $73.95 posted. And since every 11th item you buy from CDWow is free via a voucher, then you are actually only paying $67.23.

At least that's how I compare CDWow's prices with everyone else...

10/11 x CDWow's advertised price versus everyone else's price.

Imo, it's worth waiting till very near release date if you want the best price.

/backslash

03-02-2010, 06:48 PM

http://www.cdwow.com.au/games/Final-Fantasy-XIII-Xbox-360/dp/pc/9857465

CDWow has Final Fantasy XIII for $73.95 posted. And since every 11th item you buy from CDWow is free via a voucher, then you are actually only paying $67.23.

At least that's how I compare CDWow's prices with everyone else...

10/11 x CDWow's advertised price versus everyone else's price.
CDWow is terrible nowadays with their shipping & failure to tell the difference between "in stock" & "back ordered", I wouldn't bother & neither should anyone else

Pai Mel

03-02-2010, 06:54 PM

How do you get discount vouchers for BlahDVD?

/backslash

03-02-2010, 07:01 PM

How do you get discount vouchers for BlahDVD?
Dunno, might be something to do with their points system but thats UK based. MyMemory has a 5% off everything coupon, I used that for Katamari last week

Beinkasaurus Rex

03-02-2010, 07:10 PM

Is Xbox Live DLC compatible in different regions? i.e. if I buy the UK FFXIII can I still get the DLC?

For the PS3 it's a no, might be a safe idea to assume the same for the 360.

FF Freak

03-02-2010, 08:04 PM

Is Xbox Live DLC compatible in different regions? i.e. if I buy the UK FFXIII can I still get the DLC?

Hard to tell. From my experience it would be a yes simply because I have the Asia english version of Dragon Age origins and the DLC for that works fine. UK is still Pal region though so that would be a definite yes to DLC being compatible to the version even if used in Aus.

topaz

03-02-2010, 09:07 PM

MyMemory (if you don't mind providing a photo of your bill statement to confirm there's no fraud), sendit.com, zavvi.com & 365games.co.uk :) 365games, MyMemory & blahdvd have the cheapest shipping rates. MyMemory is actually free and their delivery speeds have always been fantastic, I ordered Katamari Forever from them and it was shipped on Saturday, received today :)

Thanks for all that! I might go with blahdvd as well. I've ordered a crap load of games from 365games' eBay shop previously (Game-shop Australia), damn their stuff is cheap!

Nic Xtreme

03-02-2010, 09:52 PM

Hard to tell. From my experience it would be a yes simply because I have the Asia english version of Dragon Age origins and the DLC for that works fine. UK is still Pal region though so that would be a definite yes to DLC being compatible to the version even if used in Aus.

Cheers I was worried because I hadn't tried it before and as Beinke highlighted the PS3 is locked, but the whole Asia compatibility things makes it sound all-good!

Campdog

04-02-2010, 08:26 AM

Hard to tell. From my experience it would be a yes simply because I have the Asia english version of Dragon Age origins and the DLC for that works fine. UK is still Pal region though so that would be a definite yes to DLC being compatible to the version even if used in Aus.

Are you sure? I have the Asian version of Dragon Age for the PS3 and have not been able to get the DLC to work that came with the game. Maybe im just doing it wrong though...

topaz

04-02-2010, 09:21 AM

I've got the Asian version of Uncharted 2, the other day I went to download the Eye of Indra skin pack (PAL store only) and couldn't get it to work. Luckily I downloaded it for the motion comics so I wasn't too annoyed. I then noticed the description in the Uncharted 2 DLC that was released last week, which specified that you need a specific product code (which is the EU/AUS version) for it to work. Bottom line, I don't count on PS3 Asian versions being compatible with PAL store DLC.

For 360 DLC, I did some quick googling, and my understanding is that it's more universal, eg if you've got an Asian version of a particular game, and that game has DLC in the PAL store, you'll be able to download and use it. It would make sense, since my Asian version of Lost Odyssey is able to detect what's available to download in the marketplace. Having said that, it's all just my theory though, I haven't actually tried it out myself....take it with a grain of salt.

One thing that's for certain is that the EU version for both PS3 and 360 will be able to use the DLC from the Aussie stores, like FF Freak pointed out :)

FF Freak

04-02-2010, 09:21 AM

I'm running Dragon Age: origins on Xbox360 so i can't say anything about PS3. I thought I'd mentioned the console I was playing it on but guess I hadn't. I've got the Shale content as well as Blood Dragon armor and other items running fine and while I've downloaded Soldier's peak I'm yet to actually test it.

But even if the Asia english version has problems I still don't see the UK version being a problem as it is technically still Pal encoding and classified as same region.

Edit: I didn't mention console before because WhyMe had asked about X360.

FF Freak

04-02-2010, 08:23 PM

Campdog

05-02-2010, 08:28 AM

found out 2 interesting things just now through a little research. Apparantly FFXIII was originally intended for PS2 and the lack of towns is because it was "too much work" to design in a High definition manner.

I had no idea the reason behind no towns was because it was 'too much work'. That just sounds like a big cop out and just lazy. It will be interesting to see how things go without towns. Just over a month now but im irritated that labor day is the day BEFORE it comes out!

igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

05-02-2010, 09:00 AM

I don't get it, what's replacing towns? Towns are the best bit!

Antwandemarco

05-02-2010, 10:23 AM

Yeah the fact that towns are gone has resulted in me losing interest in this game... Going to a mates place tonight that has the japanese copy, be interesting to see it in action...

Blue

05-02-2010, 11:46 AM

TimmyJ

05-02-2010, 01:34 PM

Pai Mel

05-02-2010, 01:38 PM

Is this game going to be sprites over pre-rendered backgrounds like in FFVII or is it real-time 3D like other games of today? Although I s'pose the avatars will be real-time 3D.

Lex

05-02-2010, 01:47 PM

But ff7 used 3D models...

FF Freak

05-02-2010, 04:15 PM

I don't believe this at all.

I'd give a link to where i got the info but the site also contains material that would be deemed inappropriate for the hyper forums. But I'll get the quotes.

This first is from Yoshinori Kitase:

This is the first Final Fantasy on the PS3. In what way was the development different then with the previous installments?

This time we needed to work extra hard. Final Fantasy XIII was originally meant to be a PS2 title, but we had to switch systems due to the arrival of the PS3.

That cost us about one and a half years and was constantly a case of trial and error.

However, because we worked so hard at the beginning, we got to a cruising speed much faster than anticipated and therefore could start on the translation and international voice recording process at an early stage of the development.

It’s because of this that we can release both the European as well as the American version barely three months after the Japanese release.

and this second bit is points paraphrased from a interview with Toriyama. I had to get this from another source as the site I read the info on wouldn't load the page:

The game’s linearity was just because depicting towns and so on like we did before was impossible to do on an “HD” console – it was too much work.

Nomura had hardly anything to do with it; he just did character design and commercials, not even the intro or movies.

The game was designed with DLC in mind but we don’t actually have any planned.

It was easy to port to the Xbox. Porting to the PS3 is harder. The PS3 has more processing power but you have to do it properly.

Jumping was manual at first and you could jump onto the titans.

You used to be able to avoid enemy attacks in the field using the analogue stick, but due to difficulty considerations it was canned.

The battle team came up with the transforming summons. The art team was dead against them.

“I was thinking this time we would make it completely story-centric” – Toriyama.

It's slightly wrong though as I read another translation of the article and there is apparently 4 towns in the game but no where near the standards we've seen in previous FF games.

AranchineD

05-02-2010, 04:23 PM

Man, I still don't understand. What about every single other JRPG on both 360 and PS3 that have towns in them, towns that are similiar to the towns in previous FF games?

Blue

05-02-2010, 04:40 PM

Yeah, "paraphrased" clearly means 'misinterpreted' in this case. "Too much work" isn't a phrase you'd hear at Square Enix.

Pai Mel

05-02-2010, 05:57 PM

There are no towns. Towns are for kids. Towns are for medieval era games. FFXIII will have cities.

Nic Xtreme

05-02-2010, 06:46 PM

The screenies for the PS2 FFXIII were awesome too! Cel-shading ftw! I'm still really looking forward to this - to contrast those negative 2ch impressions were these excellent, massively long Kotaku impressions, which were really detailed and did highlight what the game really seems to be about: telling a great story with great characters. I couldn't give a shit about the linearity or lack of towns, there's a billion other games that can offer that if I want it. If it tells a great story and I get to experience an awesome battle system while doing so, then I'm happy.

Natrak

05-02-2010, 06:58 PM

Pretty sure that 'cel-shading' was just a place-holder, dude.

FF Freak

06-02-2010, 12:43 AM

was looking at the achievements/trophies for FFXIII as from the Japanese release and it looks like it may be interesting to do some. There are 36 in total, 13 are story based, 7 are class/character based, 1 is the dreaded collect all items achievement (weapons and accessories in this case) and the rest seem to be challenges/ sub quest based.

Manny M

06-02-2010, 02:13 AM

TimmyJ

06-02-2010, 09:09 AM

Funnily enough, the FF Piano Collections albums are some of the most played in my collection. Brilliant stuff.

I agree. FF music is a rare occurence. The thing is that I think I would enjoy it even if I wasn't a huge FF nerd. I'm liking blue fields (FFVIII) atm.

Oh yeah, if you want an amazing FF piano track I suggest Kuja's theme.

fishonthecarpet

06-02-2010, 12:34 PM

There was a girl back when I was in school who heard me listening to the Fithos Lusec Wecos Vinosec thing (or however you spell it) and asked for a copy. Amazing album.

/backslash

20-02-2010, 06:18 PM

Listening to the complete 85 track FFXIII OST atm, its pretty disappointing. Has nothing on FFX & below. There's not much that's particularly catchy, nor is there a decent theme song :( FFXII was just as bad too, a lot of music yet all so boring trying to listen to it whilst not playing the game

Final Fantasy's music always used to be a highlight, what the hell happened? At least one song stood out, 'Masahi Hamauzu - Daddy's got the blues' but only because it reminded me of Cowboy Bebop with its harmonica & classic guitar

JubeiSaotome

20-02-2010, 09:01 PM

After the failure of XIII in japan, a remake of FFVII would be a very safe move.

/backslash

20-02-2010, 09:05 PM

XIII was a failure in japan? Poor sales?

FF Freak

20-02-2010, 09:21 PM

well apparently initial sales were good according to Square but recently the price of the game dropped to 3900yen.

Sadly Jubei it was only last month that square re-announced that they would not remake FFVII even with all the backing for it to happen from the fans.

/backslash

20-02-2010, 09:29 PM

Seems very weird not to remake a game that would surely please both the fans & Square-Enix's wallets with record high sales. I just don't understand why companies always avoid what the fans want

Blue

20-02-2010, 09:32 PM

Seems very weird not to remake a game that would surely please both the fans & Square-Enix's wallets with record high sales. I just don't understand why companies always avoid what the fans wantBecause it's an insult.

"Your new album was shit. Play Wonderwall again."

/backslash

20-02-2010, 09:41 PM

Well I know which decision I would go for :p Otherwise I'd just get more insulted

AranchineD

20-02-2010, 09:46 PM

It wouldn't sell that much. The small minority of FF fans who actually want the game remade are just a very vocal minority

And if they did do it, if they did anything but give it a HD graphics lift they'd be raped by the hardcore fans for messing the game up, and if they do keep everything else intact they'd be criticised by everyone else for selling out with a 'safe' remake.

So no. Remaking VII isn't a very good idea for them.

Cerebral

21-02-2010, 12:18 AM

Because it's an insult.

"Your new album was shit. Play Wonderwall again."

This. It reflects badly on the development team if they have to fall back remaking an old game that has fanboys frothing at the mouth rather than actually push forward and innovate at the possible expense of never really reliving THE GLORY DAYS.

An FFVII remake just seems like a cop out. Like they can't make any decent games anymore so here's that game everyone liked in 1997.

FF Freak

21-02-2010, 12:53 AM

well I just found this which is a little interesting

Yoshinori Kitase, a Square Enix game producer and head of one of its development units, commented to the the effect that he had “a great interest” in an “HD” remake of Final Fantasy VII, saying that such a project would take the form of a “perfect” realisation.

Previously another top figure in Square Enix, Tetsuya Nomura, had scotched the notion of such a remake, so where this leaves the hypothetical project is not clear.

at the same time Kitase also announced that they have no plans what so ever for DLC for FFXIII:

Regarding the DLC content, we feel that the final product is 100% enjoyable… it’s the complete package.

So we’re not planning any DLC at this time.

In regard to the rumored cut content, we feel it was taken out of context. There are a lot of ideas that are brought to the table, and then the team takes the best ideas out of those, and the final product is polished that way.

There was content that were “ideas” that didn’t make the final content, but the team isn’t looking to release that as downloadable content.

Interestingly enough I've also seen comparison shots between the X360 and PS3 versions and there is a bit of a noticeable difference in the quality for those. I'm not fussed but there are always some who are about inferior ports.

AranchineD

21-02-2010, 01:05 AM

I'm entirely sure I've read somewhere that they already have DLC planned. Don't know about that one.

And I've seen comparison shots with minimal differences between the two version so I don't know what to think of that either.

Blue

21-02-2010, 06:48 AM

This. It reflects badly on the development team if they have to fall back remaking an old game that has fanboys frothing at the mouth rather than actually push forward and innovate at the possible expense of never really reliving THE GLORY DAYS.

An FFVII remake just seems like a cop out. Like they can't make any decent games anymore so here's that game everyone liked in 1997.Having said that, I do think that it could benefit from a remake. The FFVI had gorgeous 2D graphics, the pinnacle of 2D RPGs, whereas FFVII suffers from the first-gen 3D syndrome. When you take how awful it looks, and how brilliant Advent Children looks, it's hard not to long for them to do the original justice with worthy graphics.

I can't see it happening, but you never know.

igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

21-02-2010, 08:19 AM

My biggest fear regarding a remake is if they give it the same look Advent Children had.

This is not what Cloud looks like

http://www.shopncsx.com/images/products/detail/cloud_vol1.jpg

banjoeskimo

21-02-2010, 09:05 AM

Honestly I don't think they could make a fun game if they just re-released an HD version of VII, it'd just feel too dated. At the very least you'd have to introduce at least a few modern niceties (think Metroid to Metroid: Zero Mission).

If they ever decide to remake it, and go the full 3D route (like X, XII or XIII) it'd have to be a re-imagining of some kind, it seems like it'd be impossible not to take some liberties with the original game in order to get it to play like a modern title. Keep the story, the cities, items, characters and progression of course, but as far as combat and gameplay go? I wouldn't mind them tweaking things a bit.

That's always the most painful part of playing FFIII and IV on the DS. It's great to see them again, and it brings back a lot of fond memories, but by modern standards? They can be a pain in the ass to play. Granted, this would piss off purists to no end, but I believe it'd be the better game.

On the subject of FFXIII, I've decided to stop reading reviews. Not to avoid being let down, but rather because they're so glaringly inconsistent. I've read a bunch of reviews whining that the game is too linear, and then I've read just as many claiming that it's only linear at the start, and opens up a lot toward the end. Most annoying of all is I've read reviews that claim there are no real side quests, and then they've been countered by reviews that claim there's almost 30 hours of sidequest content. WTF? That's not a difference of opinion, someone's straight up got their facts wrong. How can a game have both no sidequests, AND 30 hours of them? Ridiculous.

borgster101

21-02-2010, 10:10 AM

How can a game have both no sidequests, AND 30 hours of them? Ridiculous.

Reviewers have a different interpretation as to what constitutes a "side quest".

Also all Final Fantasy games are essentially "linear" too (but again everyone will have a different interpretation of what is linear).

JubeiSaotome

21-02-2010, 11:25 AM

XIII was a failure in japan? Poor sales?

Late reply, from what I've heard it's getting such a cheap resale value because there's been so many copies returned.

If they were to remake FFVII, they would have to fix the poorly translated storyline. Add in all the locations/plot/abilities/etc they didn't get around to because of being rushed, that alone would be enough for a re-buy. Damn, I would re-buy FFVII if I were able to play it in FFX quality graphics, it's so bad going back to the original these days in that regard.

Pai Mel

21-02-2010, 11:32 AM

If you play FFVII on a small screen like the DS, it still looks good.

The 360 version of FFXIII could have been a failure as everyone already bought the PS3 version. There is what, like 10 people in the whole of Japan who have an Xbox 360?

JubeiSaotome

21-02-2010, 11:57 AM

That doesn't matter, it's still getting returned like an undercooked big mac.

FF Freak

21-02-2010, 12:00 PM

The 360 version of FFXIII could have been a failure as everyone already bought the PS3 version. There is what, like 10 people in the whole of Japan who have an Xbox 360?

FFXIII wasn't released in Japan on the X360. So the version that's been a failure is the PS3 version. And on the value I gave before of the game selling for 3900yen ...just did the conversion and that's approximately $AU47.40 down from the original price of 9200yen (approx $AU111.80).

Pai Mel

21-02-2010, 12:10 PM

I've pre-ordered 3 copies of this game. Mebbe I should cancel 2.

On a scale of 1 - 10 how much does the game blow? I haven't played any of the FF series past 8, except the spiritual successor, Lost Odyssey.

FF Freak

21-02-2010, 01:08 PM

On a scale of 1-10 I doubt anyone could really answer unless they've played the japanese version. Like Banjoeskimo I stopped reading reviews ages ago because of inconsistancies and conflicting opinions on various aspects. I'll wait to lay judgement on it myself.

JubeiSaotome

21-02-2010, 04:36 PM

Ratings and biase opinions are a thing of the past, it's retarded that they are the standard. A review should go over features, functionality and go on to compare. If somethings poorly done, say it but there needs to be less blatant bias.

AranchineD

21-02-2010, 04:46 PM

how good is final fantasy 13?

TO WIKIPEDIA!

banjoeskimo

21-02-2010, 06:41 PM

Reviewers have a different interpretation as to what constitutes a "side quest".

Also all Final Fantasy games are essentially "linear" too (but again everyone will have a different interpretation of what is linear).

Come on though. The article I'm referencing is this one (http://www.destructoid.com/ten-things-i-loved-about-final-fantasy-xiii-162457.phtml).

All of the people that quit playing Final Fantasy XIII after 5 hours will tell you that it's a linear game. If they would have continued on, they would have found a part of the game so vast that I got lost in it multiple times. The sheer scope of this world is something that has to be seen to be believed. I think that discussing it in depth would lead to spoilers, but know that it's big enough that you'll need a chocobo to get around. It's big enough that you'll actually feel like you're exploring a world. The vastness and freedom of exploration actually remind me of a massively multiplayer game. Beautiful vistas, strange creatures, and impossible challenges are abound. What starts off as a mostly linear game opens up in an amazing way. It's like a payoff for hard work.

Final Fantasy XIII is also jam-packed with optional missions. It's easy to walk past the opportunity to perform most of these missions, which is a shame, because they're incredibly satisfying. There's over 60 missions that reward you with everything from new items and abilities to access to new areas and new enemies to take down. Just with the missions alone, I'd estimate there is a good 30+ hours of exploration and game play. They're fun and well-designed too.

Optional missions that reward you with bonus items and abilities. What else do you call that but a side quest? Granted, the reviewer here points out that they're easy to skip, but c'mon... when there's 60 of them? Like I said, I could understand differences of opinion or definition, but if what this guy says is true, someone is either straight up lying or didn't do their job as a reviewer. There's not really a middle ground there. :p

In any case: much as FFXIII's apparent lack of RPG traditions does cause me some potential for concern, realistically, I play an RPG because I want a good story, memorable characters, and a mechanically fun system to engage with. Thus far FFXIII seems set to deliver on those. Subsequently, I'll be buying it day one.

Blue

21-02-2010, 06:55 PM

Come on though. The article I'm referencing is this one (http://www.destructoid.com/ten-things-i-loved-about-final-fantasy-xiii-162457.phtml).

All of the people that quit playing Final Fantasy XIII after 5 hours will tell you that it's a linear game. If they would have continued on, they would have found a part of the game so vast that I got lost in it multiple times. The sheer scope of this world is something that has to be seen to be believed. I think that discussing it in depth would lead to spoilers, but know that it's big enough that you'll need a chocobo to get around. It's big enough that you'll actually feel like you're exploring a world. The vastness and freedom of exploration actually remind me of a massively multiplayer game. Beautiful vistas, strange creatures, and impossible challenges are abound. What starts off as a mostly linear game opens up in an amazing way. It's like a payoff for hard work.

Final Fantasy XIII is also jam-packed with optional missions. It's easy to walk past the opportunity to perform most of these missions, which is a shame, because they're incredibly satisfying. There's over 60 missions that reward you with everything from new items and abilities to access to new areas and new enemies to take down. Just with the missions alone, I'd estimate there is a good 30+ hours of exploration and game play. They're fun and well-designed too.

Optional missions that reward you with bonus items and abilities. What else do you call that but a side quest? Granted, the reviewer here points out that they're easy to skip, but c'mon... when there's 60 of them? Like I said, I could understand differences of opinion or definition, but if what this guy says is true, someone is either straight up lying or didn't do their job as a reviewer. There's not really a middle ground there. :p

In any case: much as FFXIII's apparent lack of RPG traditions does cause me some potential for concern, realistically, I play an RPG because I want a good story, memorable characters, and a mechanically fun system to engage with. Thus far FFXIII seems set to deliver on those. Subsequently, I'll be buying it day one.Well, this guy isn't a very good reviewer at all, so I'd be disinclined to believe him unreservedly.

FF Freak

21-02-2010, 07:19 PM

Well, this guy isn't a very good reviewer at all, so I'd be disinclined to believe him unreservedly.

You can disbelieve him all you want but the undeniable truth is that there is trophies/achievements related to these side mission. And that doesn't include whatever other sidequests there are. I'm spoiler tagging because they are spoilers in a sense.

Exorcist
Triumphed over undying lowerworld souls in seven fierce battles.
Requirements: Complete Mission 64.

Galuf's Grail
Completed all Cie'th Stone missions.

L'Cie Paragon
Earned a 5-Star ranking for all Cie'th Stone missions.

Blue

21-02-2010, 07:52 PM

You can disbelieve him all you want but the undeniable truth is that there is trophies/achievements related to these side mission. And that doesn't include whatever other sidequests there are. I'm spoiler tagging because they are spoilers in a sense.

Great. What's your point?

It doesn't change the fact that he's clearly no journalist, which would lead me to believe that he's a fanboy of your equal.

JubeiSaotome

21-02-2010, 08:17 PM

Blue is a fanboy of trolling forums.

FF Freak

21-02-2010, 08:40 PM

It doesn't change the fact that he's clearly no journalist, which would lead me to believe that he's a fanboy of your equal.

I take it you didn't even look at the article in proper. If I actually read the proper article it isn't even set out in journalistic fashion. Hell even the articles I write for a small time magazine probably have more of a journalistic manner. But my point was that you were disbelieving him based on that fact and I just offered proof that what he was saying had at least some small merit.

And you call me a fanboy but to be truthful Final fantasy hasn't even been my favourite series since FFX. In fact I'd probably have more negative things to say about the series from that game on then i would good. And if you look back on my posts I've been posting news on both positive and negative aspects about FFXIII. To be truthful I wouldn't mind actually getting my forum name changed to what I use on everything else.

Blue is a fanboy of trolling forums.

Lol I'd have to agree on that.

AranchineD

21-02-2010, 08:45 PM

Blue isn't trolling and it's an insult to trolling in general to label it as such.

FF Freak

21-02-2010, 10:03 PM

Sorry would hate to insult the forum trolls.

concrete donkey

21-02-2010, 10:26 PM

Great. What's your point?

It doesn't change the fact that he's clearly no journalist, which would lead me to believe that he's a fanboy of your equal.

Holy crap you're a moron Blue.

banjoeskimo

22-02-2010, 10:37 AM

I don't care what his opinion is even remotely. The fact is you can't just "make up" whether or not side quests exist. They're either in there, or they're not. That article suggests they are, backed up by trophies.

This entire back and forth is precisely the kind of bullshit I'm talking about. You can debate how good or bad FFXIII is ad nauseam, and that's fine, but when we're disagreeing over basic facts there's no f---ing point. Tuesday comes after Monday or it doesn't.

Also, why was Blue banned?

tau

22-02-2010, 10:41 AM

posting tits

Pai Mel

22-02-2010, 08:45 PM

Final Fantasy 13 Super Elite Xbox 360 Console for $574 @ Game

But there are no photos. *goes to search Google*

fishonthecarpet

22-02-2010, 10:04 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/fishonthecarpet/uploads/th_P2090096.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/fishonthecarpet/uploads/P2090096.jpg)

Who wants these? Will send em off for free to whoever does. Only if I like you.

igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

22-02-2010, 10:17 PM

Got any noodz?

fishonthecarpet

22-02-2010, 10:21 PM

nah but the rikku ones make good fap material

igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

22-02-2010, 10:22 PM

I meant noodz of you ;-)

AranchineD

22-02-2010, 10:24 PM

The Paine one is better

:cool:

Ad-Rock

23-02-2010, 08:59 AM

Come on though. The article I'm referencing is this one (http://www.destructoid.com/ten-things-i-loved-about-final-fantasy-xiii-162457.phtml).

I've gone from apprehensive to excited!

Pai Mel

27-02-2010, 09:37 AM

Dear Pai Mel

Thanks for your preorder for Battlefield Final Fantasy XIII

Due to the large volume of orders for this product we will be charging
your payment card slightly earlier than usual, and despatching your
order in advance of the release date, which will ensure your preorder
arrives for the release date of 5th of March.

igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

27-02-2010, 09:41 AM

Where from?

Pai Mel

27-02-2010, 11:31 AM

gameplay

FF Freak

01-03-2010, 04:55 PM

just my luck that my console RRoDs a week before FFXIII gets released. Only had the console about a year and a half.

Pai Mel

01-03-2010, 05:20 PM

Send it asap, you'll get it back within a week. They don't sent you back your actual console but somebody else's that has already been refurbished.

FF Freak

01-03-2010, 07:47 PM

yeah getting a box and mailing it off tomorrow.

Zace

01-03-2010, 09:39 PM

Send it asap, you'll get it back within a week. They don't sent you back your actual console but somebody else's that has already been refurbished.

I got my console back. Same serial and everything.

VanAce

03-03-2010, 12:49 AM

I pre-ordered my copy at Gametraders and have now saved $20

Cubby

03-03-2010, 04:04 AM

I for 1 would like a remake of FFVII... I've been tempted to buy it on the PSN, but the extremely dated graphics always stop me.

Xanafalgue

03-03-2010, 10:04 AM

Kind of looking forward to this now. I just know that I'm going to spend the next month bitching about it though.

FF Freak

03-03-2010, 12:23 PM

Kind of looking forward to this now. I just know that I'm going to spend the next month bitching about it though.

that's been the highlight of most of these threads with current gen RPG's. listening to you bitch about it lol. I'll probably stay away from this thread once it's released if I haven't got my 360 back by then though.

TimmyJ

03-03-2010, 02:18 PM

Lol I can't wait for FF13 I just hope my 360 doesn't decide to explode or something in the meantime

StorminNorman

05-03-2010, 10:56 AM

Did FFXIII come out today or something? because I swear I saw the 360 version for sale at EB Chirnside this morning.

Pai Mel

05-03-2010, 11:05 AM

StorminNorman

05-03-2010, 11:08 AM

Well !

I got it into my head that it was out on the 9th.

Tonez

05-03-2010, 11:14 AM

It's definitely not out today according to both JB and EB Games.

HiredMan

05-03-2010, 11:28 AM

Pai Mel: what the **** is Battlefield Final Fantasy XIII?

Spazzallo

05-03-2010, 11:29 AM

Pre-ordered at JB and thankfully most of my trade bait survived the massive exclusion list update :).

StorminNorman

05-03-2010, 11:57 AM

It's definitely not out today according to both JB and EB Games.

Gah! I was about to go out and pick it up!

Someone provide hard evidence of its release date. I'm near-certain EB were selling it this morning (they had the 360 version in the "New Releases" section, not the "Coming Soon" section).

Pai Mel

05-03-2010, 12:25 PM

Mebbe they are breaking street dates. It's not an online game so how is Microsoft to know people are playing the game early.

Re: Battlefield Final Fantasy XIII: Just a typo I think. I simply quoted my email. Btw I calculated that with today's exchange rate my FFXIII is going to cost $64 with delivery. I have no idea when and if they have already charged my card though. What awesome timing, 1 AUD = £0.60.

FF Freak

05-03-2010, 01:36 PM

Always a possibility, I mean Bayonetta had it's street date broken. if it has been broken then I should expect a call from game about 3-4pm from game. I wouldn't believe it would be broken by 4 days though, but then again Monday is labor day.

Tonez

05-03-2010, 01:46 PM

Mebbe they are breaking street dates. It's not an online game so how is Microsoft to know people are playing the game early.

XBOX Dashboard and achievements both record when you're playing a game. It doesn't have to be multiplayer.

/backslash

05-03-2010, 01:52 PM

Re: Battlefield Final Fantasy XIII: Just a typo I think. I simply quoted my email. Btw I calculated that with today's exchange rate my FFXIII is going to cost $64 with delivery. I have no idea when and if they have already charged my card though. What awesome timing, 1 AUD = £0.60.
I got my UK version for $50 incl delivery even before the not-so-good rate :D

Xanafalgue

05-03-2010, 02:15 PM

So no street date breakage then? Disappointing :( BF:BC2 will have to do tonight then.

Antwandemarco

05-03-2010, 06:37 PM

/backslash

05-03-2010, 06:56 PM

It has no towns as far as I know, all shopping is done by menu screens I think

tau

05-03-2010, 07:17 PM

Can someone confirm whether or not 13 has towns? This is really a make or break feature(i shouldn't have to call it a feature ffs!) for me and from what i've heard it doesn't. However, i was in JB the other day and they had a video of it running which had some distinctly townish looking areas...

Here's a strange thought, give the game designers the benefit of the doubt and see if you actually care about such a "feature" being gone after you play it.

Cerebral

05-03-2010, 07:48 PM

Digital Foundry Face-Off (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-face-off?page=1).

tl;dr the CG in the 360 version uses Bink Video and sucks ass, but the rest does a relatively good job matching the PS3's level of image quality save for some hair blending issues.

Xanafalgue

06-03-2010, 11:27 AM

Square Enix have been nothing but fail this gen. Not only is FFXIII an average game but they certainly don't have an excuse for the second-rate port.

igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

06-03-2010, 11:44 AM

Square Enix have been nothing but fail this gen. Not only is FFXIII an average game but they certainly don't have an excuse for the second-rate port.

No Blu Ray.

JubeiSaotome

06-03-2010, 12:12 PM

Really, what were you expecting on 360? It's had nothing but bad news throughout development. The possibility that it may not have happened, Multiple discs, and now this.

Expect the same for MGS on 360.

AranchineD

06-03-2010, 12:26 PM

Edge review - 5/10 (http://www.edge-online.com/magazine/review-final-fantasy-xiii)

lol

igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

06-03-2010, 12:29 PM

Christ, Square never should have tried to make it multiplat

AranchineD

06-03-2010, 12:34 PM

Expect the same for MGS on 360.

Pretty sure since MGS won't be relying on a crapload of shitty FMVs it won't be a problem at all.

borgster101

06-03-2010, 01:23 PM

The Raiden MGS game should be fine on 360 since it appears to be a dual platform development, but given MGS4 was on a dual layer BluRay disc I doubt they'll bother with a 360 version, shipped seems to have sailed a while ago on that one.

JubeiSaotome

06-03-2010, 02:03 PM

Pretty sure since MGS won't be relying on a crapload of shitty FMVs it won't be a problem at all.

How would you know? It's not even out yet.

T Strife

06-03-2010, 02:11 PM

Edge review - 5/10 (http://www.edge-online.com/magazine/review-final-fantasy-xiii)

lol

Made even better by the thought that FF12 was their 2006 GotY :)

AranchineD

06-03-2010, 02:16 PM

How would you know? It's not even out yet.

Because it's being made for 360, as such they won't have it in their head that they have a whole Blu-Ray disc to wank around with with no other point other than to show how 'awesome' their cutscene making skills are.

Cerebral

06-03-2010, 02:17 PM

How would you know? It's not even out yet.

Same can apply to your post, really.

Also MGS games have a history of using in game assets as a basis for cutscenes.

fishonthecarpet

06-03-2010, 03:20 PM

Agreed. It's very unlikely.

igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

06-03-2010, 03:32 PM

Same can apply to your post, really.

Also MGS games have a history of using in game assets as a basis for cutscenes.

Yes but with this in mind, how the hell did MGS4 take up 30 gigs on a blu ray? It was 30 gigs right?

JubeiSaotome

06-03-2010, 03:33 PM

Maybe the audio?

/backslash

06-03-2010, 03:37 PM

Video review is up on Gametrailers, they gave it 8.6/10. The main problems is some cheesy dialogue, the way it takes so long to get into the game & the linear maps where it feels like you have no freedom & you're constantly being indicated of where to go

I don't like the sound of these linear environments, seems like everything is getting smaller for the purpose of prettier yet non-interactive environments

fishonthecarpet

06-03-2010, 03:49 PM

Will be interesting to see how this linearity compares to previous games. FFX struck me as very linear.

JubeiSaotome

06-03-2010, 04:47 PM

The Game Trailers review pretty much answered all my doubts and reiterated what I was feeling with people complaining about linarity. Heavy Rain is a linear game with choices, yet it's hailed as being an amazing experience. Why can't MGS4 or FFXIII be an amazing linear experience? Do games have to stick to tried and true to be something good?

AranchineD

06-03-2010, 05:02 PM

Because at least in Heavy Rain you can walk on the nature strip alongside the straight path if you want to (even though it offers no difference in the final destination at all).

You can only have an amazing 'linear' experience with a number of great set pieces; spectactular, different-to-normal-gameplay-so-far, player-challenging scenes, that can only work if the player can only work through them in one way. The gameplay system of FFXIII just doesn't seem to me that it would lend itself to that kind of thing.

Natrak

06-03-2010, 05:32 PM

Honestly, with my expectations having long been tempered the game's now looking promising. I'm expecting to get some fun out of it and sink some significant hours. Bring on Tuesday.

igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

06-03-2010, 05:35 PM

No towns is killing it for me.

JubeiSaotome

06-03-2010, 05:40 PM

You can only have an amazing 'linear' experience with a number of great set pieces; spectactular, different-to-normal-gameplay-so-far, player-challenging scenes, that can only work if the player can only work through them in one way. The gameplay system of FFXIII just doesn't seem to me that it would lend itself to that kind of thing.

Which is what FFXIII looks to have. Quality over quantity. Apparently as a counter to this it has some 50+ missions as side content.

tau

06-03-2010, 05:59 PM

No towns is killing it for me.

Why?

__

Jickle

06-03-2010, 06:24 PM

A review copy of this rocked up yesterday. I haven't played enough to give any real impressions on the gameplay yet, but the graphics are absolutely incredible. The FMVs in particular are awesome - as a general rule I usually find FMVs irrelevant this gen, since in-game graphics have gotten so good, but here the difference is slight enough to not be jarring.

Nic Xtreme

06-03-2010, 07:10 PM

I'm loving the reviews of FFXIII around the place - the game has an emphasis on characters and storytelling, with none of that tacked-on, non-battle JRPG bullshit. All action and story. Considering I did form an emotional attachment to the characters in FFVIII, FFX and FFX-2, I'm 100% sure I'm going to love this! I can't wait :D

A review copy of this rocked up yesterday. I haven't played enough to give any real impressions on the gameplay yet, but the graphics are absolutely incredible. The FMVs in particular are awesome - as a general rule I usually find FMVs irrelevant this gen, since in-game graphics have gotten so good, but here the difference is slight enough to not be jarring.

Unfortunately the 360's FMVs are compressed to hell, according to Eurogamer. Glad that's the only thing that's majorly lacking though.

tau

06-03-2010, 07:32 PM

Nic Xtreme

06-03-2010, 07:47 PM

Honestly I'm amazed at how anal people are these days about graphics. Oh no, slight compression! Not completely 100% smooth, crisp hair! Let's all kill ourselves in a display of solidarity against such heinous crimes!

I know, when the Digital Foundry/EG comparison between the PS3 and 360 called the 360 port lame due to things like hair that isn't as sharp, I was surprised! At least it gave me enough info to safely judge that the 360 port is perfectly fine and I'm going to buy it.

tau

06-03-2010, 08:06 PM

also, I found it hilarious how they compared an action screenshot between the systems to point out where the compression is visible. If it's an action sequence you really aren't going to notice slight artifacting at all :/

AranchineD

06-03-2010, 08:12 PM

But in making comparison like that they get both sides of fanbois raging on the site, plus more moderate people saying what a stupid comparison it is in the first place, it's win/win!

Which is what FFXIII looks to have. Quality over quantity. Apparently as a counter to this it has some 50+ missions as side content.

But...I wasn't commenting on quality over quantity and such :/

JubeiSaotome

06-03-2010, 08:12 PM

It's like complaining about infinite combos in fighting games. They're not something that's going to effect your experience, unless you're crazy anal or something.

Spazzola

06-03-2010, 08:44 PM

Will be interesting to see how this linearity compares to previous games. FFX struck me as very linear.

Agreed, yet myself and a few mates who are FF nuts loved FFX. It was linear, but it was enjoyable. This isn't the best likening, but I'd say FFX was like a good book - you went where the author wanted you to, but you enjoyed the experience.

I'm loving the reviews of FFXIII around the place - the game has an emphasis on characters and storytelling, with none of that tacked-on, non-battle JRPG bullshit. All action and story. Considering I did form an emotional attachment to the characters in FFVIII, FFX and FFX-2, I'm 100% sure I'm going to love this! I can't wait :D

I haven't bothered looking into any reviews, but a FF without a focus on characters and storytelling is just wrong. Well, imo anyways. So I hope what you're saying is right.

I'm expecting to get some fun out of it and sink some significant hours. Bring on Tuesday.