Beyond Good and Freaking Evil 2- THERE IS A GOD

[Watchers]

Seems like Michael Ancel has started working on it, but Ubi are yet to give it the green light. Let's hope they do as the first game was tops and the ending really needs a sequel!

Linky. (http://au.gamespot.com/news/6190987.html)

[Thraxas]

I hope do make it... I really enjoyed the original game...

[Bronze]

Phew.

Putting a cliffhanger at the end of BG&E was a killer. I thought it'd never be resolved.

[Cerebral]

Yep time to track down a copy of the original then. Wonder if it's backward compatible.

[Jay]

Just awesome news. Get off your arses now Ubi and do the right thing!

[Nic Xtreme]

Awesome news. The first game is the best game I can recall being made by Ubisoft, so I'm very, very excited! I can't wait to see what they do with this one (let's hope the camera is back!)

[Tonez]

Yep time to track down a copy of the original then. Wonder if it's backward compatible.

Unfortunately it's not. (http://www.xbox.com/en-AU/games/backwardcompatibilitygameslist.htm)

[Watchers]

Yep time to track down a copy of the original then. Wonder if it's backward compatible.

I have it on PC - picked it up cheap. A few hassles getting it running on a high-spec PC, and no controller option. Got around it by forcing it to only run on one core of my CPU and used Joy to Key to let me use my 360 controller. Not perfect, but worked well enough. Though if you can find the GCN version and have a Wii, I'd go with that!

[borgster101]

Yep time to track down a copy of the original then. Wonder if it's backward compatible.
GameCube version would be ;)

[AranchineD]

awesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesome

Would totally hit Jade, by the way.

[aubergine]

Like it would be possible to find the GCN version. AS IF.

I can't actually remember how it ended. It was a cliffhanger? But we won though, right?

[Jay]

Do you want the spoiler?

[Creedy]

This makes me an extremely happy gamer.

[Watchers]

Like it would be possible to find the GCN version. AS IF.

I can't actually remember how it ended. It was a cliffhanger? But we won though, right?

I remember something about a final boss battle....then I forget... I REMEMBER IT DEMANDED A SEQUEL THOUGH!

[Queenie]

Do you want the spoiler?

yeah, most of us played and then forgot.

[Jay]

Are you sure? If you say yes then I'll post it in white...

[StorminNorman]

GameCube version would be ;)

Did the GC version ever get released in Australia? I've never seen it.

I honestly never really got into BG&E, although this may be because the game bugged out on me at one point by making the pig dude disappear, which completely prevented me from progressing any further.

[Jay]

I have the GCN version. Great stuff. Cer, if you really want to play it I can send it your way so long as it comes back. PM me if you're interested.

As for the spoiler...am I ok to post it?

[Watchers]

It was something about Jade's identity or someone's identity or something.... maybe?

Post it already, Jay!

[AranchineD]

Actually, I think Jay is referring to 'that' scene with Peyj (or however you spell it).

[UC1]

Let me guess... Jade gets ****ed by a pig?

[Jay]

Ah, close, but no cigar Bill.

No, AranchineD is on the money...'that' scene with Peyj...

He gets infected with the thing, an active DomZ spore...

[grimace06]

I would love to see the first game get released as an Xbox Original before the 2nd one comes out.

[Jay]

It deserves to get a release. By the way, if you've never played it, give Metal Arms a spin grimace.

[Nic Xtreme]

Did the GC version ever get released in Australia? I've never seen it.

I honestly never really got into BG&E, although this may be because the game bugged out on me at one point by making the pig dude disappear, which completely prevented me from progressing any further.

Yeah, it was released in Oz, and was cut to $49.95 within a week, then disappeared shortly afterwards. It was at my EB for ages.

Anyway, I've almost finished it - but yeah a glitch in my PS2 version killed the game! I was about 2-3hrs away from the finale :( And the headbutting guy disappeared, making it impossible for me to progress any further, as I saved in a spot with electricity around me...

...and if there are more glitches than this, well, that sucks completely! Damn you Ubisoft and their shitty QA!

[Adios]

Beyond Good & Evil was one of those games I lucked upon with no intention of buying it.

One of those rare occasions when my dad randomly came home with a copy, suffice to say I was rather grateful :D

[The_Evil_Banana]

I would love to see the first game get released as an Xbox Original before the 2nd one comes out.

I'd settle for backwards compatibility.


/cry

[SOX]

Won't sell.

[Watchers]

Won't sell.

Not with that attitude!

[Slippery]

I played it on PC after everyone said it was so good.
Now I agree with them.

[Quatters]

Awesome.

I had the original on Xbox.
Anticipate this muchly!

[DreElMatador22]

Im ashamed to say this but i picked up a copy of Beyond good and Evil on the gamecube a few years ago and have yet to try it. Will give it a go soon to see what i missed out on.

[borgster101]

Did the GC version ever get released in Australia? I've never seen it.
Yeah it did, was $50 at launch, and never to be seen again.

[Kotche]

BG&E is on my GCN Hunt list but I've never found a (cheap) copy :(

[Queenie]

I think i have an aussie BGE...

well, the aussie sale sticker's on there, but there's spanish writing on the back...

[Kotche]

I think i have an aussie BGE...

well, the aussie sale sticker's on there, but there's spanish writing on the back...

Does the rating stamp on it (G/PG/M/MA) look like our system?

[Cerebral]

Like it would be possible to find the GCN version. AS IF.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v191/Shmuxor/bge.jpg

Bought it on Monday for $45.

[borgster101]

You must spread some reputation before you can give to Cerebral again!

[Clockw0rk]

Nice Cerebral.
Quick question. Found the GC UK PAL version on Amazon.com. Will this work on my NZ PAL Cube?

[etnlIcarus]

I got it for someone's kid, then ended up playing a fair portion of it, myself. Could never find a GCN version but found it for $10 on PC. Aside from the shitty PC controls, the disc had a crack in it and after I asked my brother to burn me a backup, in case the crack got worse, I never saw my game disc again.

Needless to say, I greatly anticipate this title.

[Watchers]

Nice Cerebral.
Quick question. Found the GC UK PAL version on Amazon.com. Will this work on my NZ PAL Cube?

Should do.

[Clockw0rk]

Thanks. Might have to import it... I've already got it on PC but it's the "That's Hot!" budget version.

[Cerebral]

So, does this entire game play in forced 16:9?

And why did noone kick up a fuss about this yet RE4 was like "WHOA BLACK BARS"

[Clockw0rk]

Cos people find petty things to complain about if a game is ****ing awesome. See Bioshock for the best example of this.

(I realise BG&E was ****ing awesome too but nobody actually played it).

[borgster101]

So, does this entire game play in forced 16:9?

And why did noone kick up a fuss about this yet RE4 was like "WHOA BLACK BARS"

I think it's forced letterbox mode, not true 16:9.

[Cerebral]

Either way there are two large chunks of the screen missing and I'm not happy. :(

Game's pretty good, though.

[watkinzez]

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_7321_en.html

http://i26.tinypic.com/352or9s.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/2myrvps.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/2poxy7p.jpg

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Tonez]

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_7321_en.html

http://i26.tinypic.com/352or9s.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/2myrvps.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/2poxy7p.jpg

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

http://www.hyper.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=14934&page=5&highlight=evil

[watkinzez]

Yeah but this thread has a trailer and thus is infinitely more awesome.
(Merge if required, then)

[Tonez]

Agreed. It is much more awesome.

[Watchers]

Agreed. It is much more awesome.

Lies. Mine was first, and therefore superior. Merge plz.

[AyatollaofRocknRolla]

Good thing I didn't create a thread for this then. I was going to in my excitement over the announcement, but we don't really need 3 threads for one game.

Or maybe we do, since no one really bought the last game. We must inform the ignorant masses of Beyond Good and Evils awesomeness.

[etnlIcarus]

New visual style is fail. New voice for Pee'j is fail. Current-gen cliche of rendering large desert landscape is fail.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

New visual style is fail. New voice for Pee'j is fail. Current-gen cliche of rendering large desert landscape is fail.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/infinate_ammo/FAIL_by_LoRd_CoNNoR.jpg

[AranchineD]

The visual style kind of reminds me of what Fallout 3 is looking like (especially with that desert theme).

[Nic Xtreme]

I don't know what happened at the end of the first but...this is really different! Wow!

I can't wait :D

EDIT: The graphics are gorgeous, the desert reminds me of Full Throttle for some reason, and Peyj's voice is...not good.

[Stevorooni]

http://www.hyper.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=14934&page=5&highlight=evil

THREAD MERGING COMPLETE!

[Bronze]

New visual style is win. New voice for Pee'j is win. Current-gen cliche of rendering large desert landscape is win.

Fixed.

[etnlIcarus]

Fixed.
Like a dog.

[Cerebral]

Personally I feel the unfortunate label of 'current-gen cliche' is a bit of a cheap shot at every well-rendered desert landscape out there. They look great.

[etnlIcarus]

I ...can't tell if Cer is joking or not. I'm losing my edge!

[Tonez]

What the hell is wrong with you people? You heard his voice for two seconds

[Adios]

It sounded pretty similar to me from what I could tell...

I did only watch the trailer once though.

[Queenie]

I'm going to be unique and not watch the trailer, buckle and then watch it eventually.

[Jay]

Interesting comments from Yves Guillemont on EG just now.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=143849

Not sure how I feel about rewarding dickheads who were too stupid to buy it first time round, but whatever. Just make the damn thing...

[AranchineD]

"We think the game was probably a little too difficult for the general gamers at that time. We're going to make it more accessible and make sure that it's really done for the new generation that's come into videogames."

What the hell? I don't remember the game being difficult in the slightest way. Just because the gamer had to spend all of five minutes learning a control scheme...

I guess it was too much to ask to have the game completely intact from the previous game, but hopefully accessible isn't going to mean completely dumbing down.

[Jay]

That's what worries me. You're totally right Aranchine - the last game did border on the easy side of things, as gorgeous and superb as it was. Dumbing it down, or turning it into something more generic would be a massive disservice.

[etnlIcarus]

That's what worries me. You're totally right Aranchine - the last game did border on the easy side of things, as gorgeous and superb as it was. Dumbing it down, or turning it into something more generic would be a massive disservice.
Border on easy? The only thing difficult about the game was preventing your partner from doing dumb shit. Frankly, a sequel needs to be harder and there needs to be added depth to the combat system.

[Jay]

I was erring on the side of understatement, icky. :p

You obviously were not. :)

[Watchers]

I want expanding on the camera usage!

Also, please don't turn it into a more traditional stealth game. The first one was perfect in terms of encouraging stealth, but not punishing the player severely for being caught, and tending not to have situations where you get caught through no fault of your own. Keep it stealth-lite!

[Adios]

Yeah. They nailed the stealth gameplay sections in the original. Too true!

I just want the photography to be back :p

[borgster101]

I too worry about how the game will play, since the teaser provides no evidence on what the gameplay style will be like ...

Remember that catchy tune in the bar .. "Propoganda"!

[Nic Xtreme]

There better photo taking... Definitely the best mechanic in the original!

[Bronze]

I just started playing this again on PC. I have the game on Xbox, but it's not backward compatible. Bah.

Had a bit of trouble getting it to run nicely without graphic corruption, but there's a patch on the Ubisoft website that fixed most of that up.

It's still just as enchanting as it was five years ago. Man, it's been that long? >_>

[Clockw0rk]

Hooray! I just read This Article (http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10709&Itemid=2) where the Chief Executive of Ubisoft assures us that the game will be made "more accessible for casual gamers" this time around. Given the extreme difficulty of the last game and the fact that it didn't appeal to casual gamers as a result, I'm really looking forward to what I'm sure will be a new and innovative gameplay style.


“We saw with Beyond Good & Evil that so many customers were extremely happy with the game,” said Guillemot. “We had a different audience at that time. We had more core gamers than casual gamers than we have today.

"We think the game was probably a little too difficult for the general gamers at that time. We’re going to make it more accessible and make sure that it’s really done for the new generation that’s come into videogames.”

It's so nice that these developers are dumbing games down for us console players. Where would we be without nice, accessible, challenge free games?

EDIT: Apparently Jay beat me to it.

[Slippery]

I don't remember it being at all difficult except for the final boss...

Edit: Read the rest of the thread....sarcasm noted

[Tonez]

Wow this has really pushed my enthusiasm down

[Natrak]

It's Michael Ancel, I don't care if they're making it more accessible, this game is going to be good.

[Daniel]

I take the comments about accessibility to be more about pitching, naming and marketing than actual gameplay. There are no hard gameplay concepts or controls in the first game but they are a little random in the way they are introduced.

The major difficulty with the first game was the general lack of marketing and the non-specific, philosophical name. I can all but guarantee that the new game will be called
(Sequel Name Here):

Beyond Good & Evil 2

Anyway, I was at the announcement and trailer screening, and the only sound you could hear over the cheering of games press was marketing and retail shitting themselves at the thought of having to try and sell the sequel to a game that sold sweet FA worldwide.

[aubergine]

Must have been a cheer accompanied by a massive spoodging noise of poo squeaming out the sides of undies.

It's amusing that they are blaming the game design for what was entirely a marketing problem. I guess it is the head of marketing who is saying that. "The first game didn't appeal to anyone and was bad but we promise this one won't be." Now THAT'S GOOD MARKETING. What he should be saying was "The first game was an undiscovered gem and that's our fault. We have teams of monkeys working overtime to market this new game a year in advance because Ancel is a genius and we worked that out finally."

Now they need to announce that the first game will be available for download over live arcade, for free. It's not likely I'll find a gamecube copy but I'd download it to my 360.

[Daniel]

On an interesting related note, BG&E received more votes in the reader to 50 than copies of the game were sold in Aus.

[aubergine]

We passed that one copy around.

[Clockw0rk]

On an interesting related note, BG&E received more votes in the reader to 50 than copies of the game were sold in Aus.
I played it! Honest, I did! Of course, I live in NZ. And I didn't vote in the Top 50. And I didn't play it until it was $25 in a bargain bin in the crappy re-release packaging.

[AranchineD]

There's also the fact that there were about 50 copies in the whole of Australia anyway.

[Blue]

I played it.

Overrated.

[etnlIcarus]

I played it! Honest, I did! Of course, I live in NZ. And I didn't vote in the Top 50. And I didn't play it until it was $25 in a bargain bin in the crappy re-release packaging.
Same. I gave up trying to find it for Cube and bought it for $10 from a, "That's Hot!", bin.

[Super Sleuth]

I bought it for the Cube, day 1, full SRP...of $49.95. And I still have it. I look at the cover lovingly from time to time.

[Jay]

I played it.

Overrated.

Whatever.

I still own my copy. I routinely introduce people to it when I'm drunk. It is awesome.

Overrated. **** me.

[Gutsman Heavy]

I keep trying to play BG&E but keep getting bored after the pig gets kidnapped, its just not worth playing with out him :(

[Jay]

Double H more than makes up for the loss of P'eyj. Push on with it Gutsman. It is great.

[dinopoke]

Same. I gave up trying to find it for Cube and bought it for $10 from a, "That's Hot!", bin.

It's sucks how they stopped selling it now just when I had gotten a PC good enough to run it. :(

[Blue]

Whatever.

I still own my copy. I routinely introduce people to it when I'm drunk. It is awesome.

Overrated. **** me.No, this game gets a ridiculous amount of acclaim, which I can't comprehend. It's simply not that great.

[Jay]

I still think you're wrong, though naturally entitled to your incorrect opinion. :p

[Natrak]

Double H more than makes up for the loss of P'eyj. Push on with it Gutsman. It is great.

P'eyj >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Double H. In purely character terms, that is.

On a side note, I've just started playing through Beyond Good and Evil again. :D

[Queenie]

what i can remember about the first game is that all the pearls were easy to get, got them all the first run through.

animal snapshot=win

[etnlIcarus]

No, this game gets a ridiculous amount of acclaim, which I can't comprehend. It's simply not that great.
Invisible walls/poor excuses for walls and the actual size of the game world are the only major criticisms I can think of; neither of which are game-breaking. I don't think it's the greatest game in the somewhat vague genre but it's certainly worthy of the reverence it receives.

[Jay]

P'eyj >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Double H. In purely character terms, that is.

On a side note, I've just started playing through Beyond Good and Evil again. :D

I find Double H much funnier than P'eyj, though obviously far more shallow - he is less a character and more a caricature.

[Blue]

Invisible walls/poor excuses for walls and the actual size of the game world are the only major criticisms I can think of; neither of which are game-breaking. I don't think it's the greatest game in the somewhat vague genre but it's certainly worthy of the reverence it receives.I think it would HAVE to be the best in its 'genre' for it to be deserving of the ridiculous amounts of praise it gets.

I think that people rave about this game just to look hardcore. "Oh, it's so amazing, the best game in the world, BUT YOU DIDN'T PLAY IT, CRETIN!" If it had sold well, it'd be just another PoP: Sands of time. Which isn't bad, but isn't Godly either.

This is the hardcore gamer's 'indie' game. It's 'underground'. It's like the kind of game Dekar would play. And he listens to some absolute shit music.

[Jay]

I actually ICO is more that game. And that is the best game of last generation imo. And, you know, sometimes people talk games up because, um, they are actually pretty good.

I can understand people not connecting with BG&E, but it does so many things right that to suggest it isn't worthy of its praise is unfathomable to me.

[Blue]

It's worthy of praise. But it's not worthy of the incredible praise it gets. It has a cult following, but if it actually HAD sold a lot of copies, it would just have a 'following', and probably wouldn't be raved about quite as much.

Basically, heaps of people played FFVII and raved about it. I'm of the belief that if heaps of people played BG&E, it wouldn't have the same cult following, and wouldn't be brought up as often in 'Best Game' conversations. So I'm saying that it's allure is in it's hardcore affiliation, and that causes people to view it through rose-coloured glasses. It's like nostalgia, without the game being old.

So what I'm saying is that it may be underappreciated, but that doesn't mean we should all talk it up more than it deserves, just to compensate. It was an 8/10 game.

EDIT: And Ico is the same. But that also had the whole 'artistic' angle it could work as well, whereas I don't find BG&E to be quite as stylish. The character designs aren't great, in my opinion. Now Shadow of the Colossus was what Ico should have been.

[etnlIcarus]

I think it would HAVE to be the best in its 'genre' for it to be deserving of the ridiculous amounts of praise it gets. Well, stop reading BG&E Quarterly, 'cause I don't hear it mentioned that often and that's the only thing I can think of.

[Jay]

It's worthy of praise. But it's not worthy of the incredible praise it gets. It has a cult following, but if it actually HAD sold a lot of copies, it would just have a 'following', and probably wouldn't be raved about quite as much.

Basically, heaps of people played FFVII and raved about it. I'm of the belief that if heaps of people played BG&E, it wouldn't have the same cult following, and wouldn't be brought up as often in 'Best Game' conversations. So I'm saying that it's allure is in it's hardcore affiliation, and that causes people to view it through rose-coloured glasses. It's like nostalgia, without the game being old.

So what I'm saying is that it may be underappreciated, but that doesn't mean we should all talk it up more than it deserves, just to compensate. It was an 8/10 game.

EDIT: And Ico is the same. But that also had the whole 'artistic' angle it could work as well, whereas I don't find BG&E to be quite as stylish. The character designs aren't great, in my opinion. Now Shadow of the Colossus was what Ico should have been.

Now that's funny, because whilst I love SotC, I rate ICO well above it. Horses for courses I guess.

[Blue]

Yeah, if you genuinely consider BG&E a masterpiece, then I've got no problem with that. But I think most people give it praise it doesn't really deserve.

Yeah, I liked SotC. It could have been better. If they made it now, on PS3 and 360, just imagine the enormous creatures you'd be climbing and slaying. And the detail and scope of the lands...

[Jay]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to their next game very much, up there with how much I'm looking forward to LittleBigPlanet. And BG&E2. :p

[Blue]

See, I'm not interested in LBP at all. Looks dull to me, although the graphics seem nice, like a brown, HD Yoshi's Story.

[Jay]

I had a chat to a guy who got to play around with it a couple of weeks ago and he was talking it up, saying the possibilities are just about endless. I'm rally looking forward to the creation aspect of it.

[etnlIcarus]

I'd go for a HD Yoshi's Story.

[Blue]

I'm not a fan of level editors in games.

Yeah, I'd go a HD Yoshi's Story. But would you go a 3D HD Yoshi's Story?

Actually, on second thoughts, Yoshi's Story drives me nuts nowadays.

[Natrak]

I'm going to have to side with Jay here, although I'm not quite as fond of the game as he is. :P

I think BG&E is a better game than Wind Waker, personally (although I'm no fan of WW so take that with a grain of salt). The game delivers great visuals (that still hold up pretty well today), a great story and characers, great VO to go along with it and, of course, great gameplay to go along with it.

Playing through the game at the moment has really hit home just how well designed it is, the 'dungeons' are all entertaining and varied and with the stealth-lite elements they throw a really nice spin on the Zelda formula. Throw in other elements such as some entertaining racing and photography that makes for a neat distraction when not specifically required of the game and you have a pretty damn good package. The only places I feel the game's weak are in the combat and some camera issues.

It's easily the best game to be spawned from the brain of Michael Ancel and that has to count for something.

[concrete donkey]

its funny to read all these posts about how fantastic beyond good and evil was, but no one remembers how it ends! hardly a classic game

[Jay]

I believe I offered to say how it ended a few pages ago but held off because of spoilers. I have absolutely no problem remembering how this classic game ends. :)

[aubergine]

I believe I offered to say how it ended a few pages ago but held off because of spoilers. I have absolutely no problem remembering how this classic game ends. :)

Just white the spoilerisms out like so.

[Bronze]

its funny to read all these posts about how fantastic beyond good and evil was, but no one remembers how it ends! hardly a classic game

I remember how it ends. That's why I'm so happy the sequel has been announced, so the cliffhanger might finally be resolved.

[banjoeskimo]

PLEASE DEAR GOD LET THIS BE REAL! (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/05/08/rumor-beyond-good-and-evil-2-footage-leaked-and-lovely/)

I doubt that's real time, but if that's a target render? Oh dear sweet Jesus. If that plays as good as it looks, BG&E2 > Mirror's Edge.

[Sweating Bullets]

That looked freaking unreal!

[Nic Xtreme]

I can't even run that video smoothly on the computer I'm on atm :(

What I did see and hear looks awesome, though, and really seems to capture the anti-government feeling of the game!

[AranchineD]

Yeah, if the game plays even a fraction like that (and I'm assuming that running from the suits isn't going to be the only gameplay element in the game, like the escape sequences in the first game were) then it'll be brilliant.

[Bronze]

Fresh change of underwear needed. BRB.

[Watchers]

Looks like a cutscene to me, but if it's showing off the sort of gameplay they have in mind, it looks great fun.

[etnlIcarus]

They seem to be pulling back on the original's visual style. Not cool.

[AranchineD]

A change in visual style I can live with, it would probably mean it would appeal to a larger audience, yes you could call that selling out, but as long as the spirit and character of the game remains the same (even though the visual style of the first contributed to that, but you know what I mean) I'll still be happy.

[Slippery]

I refuse to get my hopes up!

...



OMG BG&E2! Shit looks awesome!

[Hellion_7]

Why is it that I get the feeling that this game is going to be a re-imagining of the franchise (ala Prince of Persia) and completely abandon the original's story? It seems like Ubisoft has ditched Hillys and sent the franchise to India instead. From Indian clothing (the woman at 27 seconds looks to be wearing a Sari (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sari_(female_garment))), to Indian architecture, to the Indian flag's colours (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_India.svg) being present on the helicopter at the end, everything's pointing towards Brett Lee popping up to deliver a sizzling Bollywood performance.:(

[Jay]

But surely the intention was always to expand the game universe beyond the confines of what we saw of Hyllis in the first one?

[watkinzez]

Why is it that I get the feeling that this game is going to be a re-imagining of the franchise (ala Prince of Persia) and completely abandon the original's story? It seems like Ubisoft has ditched Hillys and sent the franchise to India instead. From Indian clothing (the woman at 27 seconds looks to be wearing a Sari (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sari_(female_garment))), to Indian architecture, to the Indian flag's colours (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_India.svg) being present on the helicopter at the end, everything's pointing towards Brett Lee popping up to deliver a sizzling Bollywood performance.:(

Did you not notice Pey'j's arm in the first trailer?

[Slippery]

I just re-watched the trailer and have played the first game and still don't know what you mean.

[Dr Skinnybones]

did you watch til after the credits? massive cliffhanger

[Cian]

It's clearly not in-game footage...no way. I'm a HUGE fan of the original, one of my favourite games of all time and that's no exaggeration. I don't have any problem with the graphical style they're going for but I hope they remember why Hillys was so special, immersion. They better not make it a full blown action game either, part of the reason I loved the first one was becasue of the exploration.

[Australian Ninja]

Looking forward to this one. Hopefully they'll keep/ expand the photography and context sensitive attacks. Definitely will replay BG&E before the sequel arrives.

Interesting to see the glitches people posted about. My Gamecube version never gave me any real trouble. Nothing a reload wouldn't fix anyhow. Good thing Hyper talked favorably about the game, or I probably would never have played it.

I wouldn't call BG&E over-rated. It's by no means perfect, but a quality game from start to finish that successfully melds elements of different games/genres and ties it together with a competent story, where you care somewhat about the characters (for those who finished it anyway).

I'd even say it's a bit more adult/mature than most game stories with its none too subtle digs at oppressive/ dictatorial authorities (govt, military). It was more metaphor than comparison when you see the final story / surprise of who the enemies really were.

One of my fav non-franchise games anyhow. Having played+ competed BG&E, Sands of Time and King Kong, I really want Ubisoft to keep their more "indy" games alive and not just keep pumping out the Tom Clancy's Virtual Money Maker titles (good as they are, we need more variety)

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If the BG&E sequel keeps the elements that made the first good, then i'll be happy. They need an engrossing world, and that sense of fighting opression that the first had, and the solid adventure gameplay.