The Sega Dreamcast Appreciation Thread

[Lazlow]

I ordered Sega GT from Play-Asia, but again they oversold and were holding up my order until they found another copy. So I cancelled Sega GT so the other 3 games would get shipped.

So is Sega GT worth tracking down? Or is it better on XBOX?

[Ezri]

Sega GT 2002 is much better than the original. Sega GT has a lot of nice features, it just has a terrible driving model. 2002 improved in so many aspects, and I actually found myself sitting down to play that more than I did the original.

[Emilbus]

Just bought a DC off a friend for really cheap! Good thing i kept all the games too. My DC broke down about the time PS2 came out.

[Adios]

Just bought a DC off a friend for really cheap! Good thing i kept all the games too. My DC broke down about the time PS2 came out.

Probably just felt that it's life would end soon after :razz: . Poor thing.

[Xanafalgue]

Just bought a DC off a friend for really cheap! Good thing i kept all the games too. My DC broke down about the time PS2 came out.

Another Sony conspiracy CONFIRMED :nono:

[Tukenstein]

I FINALLY got a VMU for my DC! Shenmue, here I come!

Also, Why is this thread in the Retroactive forum? I could swear the DC was part of last generation's consoles.

[Ezri]

It was decided that the DC was old enough and dead enough upon the creation of this forum that it warranted belonging in Retroactive. Besides, it's not like any of the other forums were appropriate for Dreamcast discussion. Soon enough PS2, GCN and Xbox will be discussed in here too.

[craptest]

Soon enough PS2, GCN and Xbox will be discussed in here too. God help us.

Not sure if the PS2 will be joining the retro ranks that soon. Titles due out for the rest of this year. Publishers seem to like Wii-PS2 porting. With the PS3 crawling Sony would be nuts to let the worlds best selling home console die an early death. I really dont see an end until 2009 (even later in Japan).

[StorminNorman]

STILL NOT DEAD. (http://kotaku.com/gaming/you-cannot-kill-it/2008-brings-more-dreamcast-games-291108.php)

[Kloppy]

Awesome.

Well, I can't get too optimisitic, because I was a little disapointed with Last Hope.

It was really a NeoGeo game, rather than a DC game, afterall.

Heh... Dalforce. I wonder if it will be as popular as MoH: Rising Sun....

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2003/20031126h.gif

[Cranky]

Dragged Samba De Amigo out of the cupboard with the maracas tonight to give them a try out (I got them cheap maybe 6 months ago but never tried them). Anyway my wife walks in whilst I'm "shaking it" to Ricky Martin's Cup of Life.

I'd have been less embarrassed if she'd caught me tuggin' away to monkey porn....

Stupid good fun though...

[Chilli]

That's good stuff mate, but that reminds me can I get that dvd back. :razz:

On topic though I recently picked up a boxed House of the Dead gun & game in fantastic condition too.

[Kefka]

Ahhh, the good old DC.
The School of Computer and Information Science Students' Association (SCISSA) at my uni (ECU) has a DC in it... We spend a lot of time playing Powerstone 2 and Ikaruga instead of doing anything productive, such as going to classes.

[Chilli]

Sounds pretty productive to me. :lol:

[SOX]

Did anyone ever play Seaman? If you did, how did it actually play and is it a concept worth revisiting?
I'm asking because I'm trying to look at these odd type of games to get some ideas of what to make this year at uni.

[umpotato]

Does anyone know where I can pick up a dreamcast in Melbourne? Any stores/markets that sell dreamcast games? I'm not wanting to use ebay.

[Kefka]

places like Game sometimes have old stuff available, but iirc someone is producing some kind of unofficial Dreamcast these days... has it been mentioned in this thread? I don't remember much... it was black.

Maybe.

[umpotato]

I havn't heard of that? (unofficial dreamcast)
Actually managed to find one in my home town of all places but was missing av lead and power cable. I believe I can use a ps2 power cable but I dunno about av conection.

[Cranky]

Did anyone ever play Seaman?
I don't play with it. I usually just quickly mop it up with a few tissues before I get sprung.

[Knuckle Children]

I don't play with it. I usually just quickly mop it up with a few tissues before I get sprung.

You've never played the 'look I'm a frog with webbed hands' game? Always gets a laugh in my house.

On topic I'd love to get a copy of Sega GaGa or at least play it. Sounded like such a cool concept.

[madmangohan]

I havn't heard of that? (unofficial dreamcast)
Actually managed to find one in my home town of all places but was missing av lead and power cable. I believe I can use a ps2 power cable but I dunno about av conection.
Probbably the Treamcast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treamcast), a chinese made portable version supposedly using all the normal dramcast components, just in a modified casing and some other small tweaks.

I came across a dreamcast at my local GT a few days back... $170.
I just shook my head and went home that evening to play the dreamcast I brought back from Japan costing me... $50 (well $150 if you include the overkill transformer I got for it <<)

You can get Dreamcast av cables on Ebay easily enough, and the power from memory is a standard figure 8 cable, which pretty much any old portable device used and aren't hard to find.

[Kefka]

Does anyone know where I can pick up a dreamcast in Melbourne? Any stores/markets that sell dreamcast games? I'm not wanting to use ebay.

Ah, found it! The Treamcast.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treamcast

http://www.futurenews.at/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/treamcast.jpg

Have fun!

[bi-mon-sci-fi-con]

Is that one of those 'portable consoles' that really aren't portable at all? Kind of looks like that portable Saturn thing that never came to be (I think).

[SOX]

Ｎｏｔ　ｅｘａｃｔｌｙ　Ｄｒｅａｍｃａｓｔ　（ｏｒ　ｎｅｗ　ｎｅｗｓ）　ｂｕｔ　ｉｔ’ｓ　ｐｒｏｂａ ｂｌｙ　ｍｏｒｅ　ａｔ　ｈｏｍｅ　ｈｅｒｅ　ｔｈａｎ　ｉｎ　ｔｈｅ　Ｓｏｎｙ　ｓｅｃｔｉｏｎ．　Ｌｉ ｎｋｙ (http://youtube.com/watch?v=6KZZBlHdUh0)






Ｍｙ　ｆｏｎｔ　ｉｓ　ｓｃｒｅｗｅｄ　ｕｐ　ｆｏｒ　ｓｏｍｅ　ｒｅａｓｏｎ　：／

[Kefka]

I saw a review of it that was pretty positive - http://web.archive.org/web/20070614153057/http://www.gbax.com/treamcast.html

A few minor quibbles, but still a good way to get your hands on a Dreamcast.

Personally, I would just be detaching the little screen and attaching the console to a regular monitor/TV to use as a retro home console. I've got my DS for portable fun. :P

[umpotato]

Actually looks like its intended for car use with the cigarette lighter attachment? However price is far too steep for an old(ish) console!

[fishonthecarpet]

90%?? Ikaruga, Crazy Taxi, RECV.... REZ. What else was ported to those two systems?

I'm not gonna pretend I know much about the Dreamcast - but I haven't heard of many games that people say you must play that aren't on other consoles - or atleast had sequels which very much follow the same vein.

Skies of Arcadia, the sonic games (ok, so not nessecarily classics...), Soul Calibur (Granted they are sequels - I don't know much about SC), Space Channel 5, Jet Grind (Xbox i know), Marvel vs Capcom 2 & Phantasy Star Online

Is there much else?

[Old Stoney]

List of Dreamcast exclusives that you won't find anywhere else and have not been ported or sequeled on other formats and aren't weird japanese eroge or pachinko.

Alien Front Online
Border Down
Cosmic Smash
D2
Headhunter (original was better than the sequel, or so I'm told)
Illbleed
L.O.L. (Lack of Love)
Lost Golem
Musapey's Choco Marker
Napple Tale - Arsia in Daydream
Ooga Booga
Outtrigger
Samba de Amigo (until Wii game is released)
Sega Tetris
SGGG (Segagaga)
Super Magnetic Neo
Tokyo Bus Guide
Toy Commander
Under Defeat
Virtual On: Oratorio Tangram (although there is a PS2 sequel)
Zero Gunner 2
Giga wing
Mars Matrix

Correct me if I'm wrong

[fishonthecarpet]

Well there you go - I have heard of literally none of them.

(Sega Tetris?)

[Marble]

The first Shenmue game is still DC exclusive, isn't it?

[Nic Xtreme]

He included games with sequels.

I so want Tokyo Bus Guide and Segagaga...damn PAL Dreamcast...

When I go to Japan (eventually), a lot of my shopping is going to be involving JP Dreamcast stuff...

[schnappy]

*raises hands in regards to thread title*
Not much else to say/say I'm doing but not really.

Though I might be getting some DC stuff soon from PA, provided I make that damn order before they run out of the goodies I want.

[madmangohan]

When I go to Japan (eventually), a lot of my shopping is going to be involving JP Dreamcast stuff...Pretty much all I brought back from Japan was Gamecube and Dreamcast stuff (including a DC console), although I kinda regret not researching into it more since I've seen so many more games I want (for the Dreamcast especially) that it would cost me a small fortune trying to get them here compared to the pocket change over there.
I'll no doubt hope to fix that in my next trip there, tentavely slated for 2 years away :(

[Old Stoney]

Well there you go - I have heard of literally none of them.

(Sega Tetris?)

http://www.segagagadomain.com/dc-covers7/segatetris-f.jpg
If you've ever wanted to play tetris with a mallet-weilding monkey, this is the only game that lets you do that. Some awesome modifications to battle mode too, such as missiles that destroy parts of the blocks on your opponents screen when you perform doubles or triples with gaps between the lines.

[Xanafalgue]

Has anyone tried that "pins" trick to stop their DC from resetting ?

[SOX]

Has anyone tried that "pins" trick to stop their DC from resetting ?

I have. It was extremely easy to do and my DC has never had the resetting problem since.

[Lazlow]

Mine has a problem reading legit discs :(

[Nic Xtreme]

He included games with sequels.

I so want Tokyo Bus Guide and Segagaga...damn PAL Dreamcast...

When I go to Japan (eventually), a lot of my shopping is going to be involving JP Dreamcast stuff...

Ooooh, I just found out that Tokyo Bus Guide has a whole series on the PS2! I totally forgot about Seaman on DC, too! And its PS2 sequel!

[Lazlow]

So anyone have any advice when adjusting the Potentiometer screw?

Even games that ran no problems are now failing to get passed menu screens :(

[madmangohan]

Supposedly clockwise increases power to the laser, and anticlockwise decreases it.
From what I understand, a small turn clockwise (quarter or less) should be efficient.

[Lazlow]

Looks like a new DC is still in order.

I gave it a 1/8th turn and House of the Dead loaded up, but then died after the 2nd boss. Gave it another slight turn and Shenmue still refuses to load.

[madmangohan]

Other than giving the lens a clean and that screw another small turn, there's very likely not much you can do now to possibly give it some extra life (flip it upside down ps1 style?)
Sad to hear though.

[schnappy]

Well a dead lens means.... CASE MOD TIME!

Hmm I found how to get into Yahoo! Auctions Japan... I need a Japanese translator to keep.
http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/112786309

1 yen pretty much is 1 cent... stuff is cheap there.

[Old Stoney]

Well there you go - I have heard of literally none of them.

Dreamcast's unknown gems part 2

Cosmic Smash

http://www.segagagadomain.com/dc-covers8/cosmicsmash-f.jpghttp://www.segagagadomain.com/dc-covers8/cosmicsmash-b.jpg
http://www.ntsc-uk.com/reviews/sdc/CosmicSmash/04.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20010926/cos02.jpg

The bizarre love child of Rez and Power Smash/Virtua Tennis, with lineage tracing back to arkanoid/breakout. Awesome, awesome, awesome game. Even the case is awesome, with it's translucent cover.

[madmangohan]

Hmm I found how to get into Yahoo! Auctions Japan... I need a Japanese translator to keep.
http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/112786309

1 yen pretty much is 1 cent... stuff is cheap there.
It's call Babelfish (babelfish.yahoo.com) :P
...and if babelfish is telling the truth, the item is for japan shipping only.
Kinda makes me want to track down a friends japanese address so I could snag it :/

[schnappy]

Well yeah, but you can't really go around trading using babelfish imo... a bit dodgy.

[Old Stoney]

Unknown Gems Part 3

L.O.L. (Lack of Love)

http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/amg/games/drg000/g083/g083441wl7k.jpg

Evolution RPG that kind of reminds me of ecco the dolphin. I haven't got very far into it yet. You start of as an egg and must evolve and survive in an alien eco-system and, presumably, eventually take on the hostile aliens invading in the intro. No japanese knowledge is required, it is a completely alien, yet intuitively designed game, although the puzzles require a fair bit of head scratching and patience.

[schnappy]

Anyone know where I can get a NGPC - Dreamcast cable? Preferably boxed...

[Old Stoney]

Anyone know where I can get a NGPC - Dreamcast cable? Preferably boxed...

I looked everywhere myself recently, and the only place I had any luck was ebay. In fact : NEO-GEO-POCKET-DREAMCAST-Link-Cable-SNK-Sega-SEALED (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEO-GEO-POCKET-DREAMCAST-Link-Cable-SNK-Sega-SEALED_W0QQitemZ270242687989QQihZ017QQcategoryZ139 969QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
But don't be surprised if it blows out to over $50.

There was one in ebay stores recently that was hard to find because it used strange keywords in the title, but I can't remember what they were and I can't find it now.

Unknown Gems 4

Super Hero Retsuden

http://www.segagagadomain.com/dc-covers8/superhero-f.jpg


Imagine an old fashioned side scrolling beat-em-up mashed together with a strategic turned based rpg style battle system, but still all operating in real time, combined with 70's style cheese and you have Super Hero Retsuden. The unique gameplay and style makes this one interesting, if not essential.

[StorminNorman]

Dreamcast's unknown gems part 2

Cosmic Smash

This game demands a Wii sequel.

[Knuckle Children]

Hey Stoney,

Have you actually got Segagaga? I've always wanted to play that. If you've got it, is it any good?

Oh yeah, as for DC exclusives, you forgot:

Floigan Brothers (short game, but it's pretty sweet)
Sega Marine Fishing - w/fishing rod (I know that there's heaps of fishing games but this one kills them all! DEAD!)

Had fun times with both.

[Lazlow]

Giant Gram 2000: All Star Pro Wrestling 3 or gtfo

[Old Stoney]

Hey Stoney,

Have you actually got Segagaga? I've always wanted to play that. If you've got it, is it any good?

http://members.optusnet.com.au/~corrimalnews/mypic11.jpg
There it is. Top row.

To be ashamedly honest, I've only had time to boot it up and test it out. Watched the intro and had joygasm at the first sight of Alex Kidd in over 15 years. He looks rather sullen about being demoted to check-out chick. The language barrier is putting me off from exploring it further, since I have many other titles beckoning me at the moment.

[Lazlow]

Few dating games in that collection there?

[Old Stoney]

Few dating games in that collection there?

Yeah, I became obsessed with owning all of the official dreamcast games released in DVD style cases. Not quite there yet.

[schnappy]

I would really like a couple of DVD style games, well any Dreamcast games currently. I'm getting Shenmue Chapter 1: Yokosuma-something from PA in the next few days (UPS: Hub scan)... my first jap game. I want that Cosmic smash game :P

[Lazlow]

You fluent in Japanese schnappy?

In other news, I think my tinkering with the potentiometer has resulted in my killing my 'cast. Gave it another quarter turn to the right and it wouldn't read discs at all (as in, no indication that the lens was even scanning the disc). So I went to give it a half turn back (which should have resulted in it being close to its original position before all the tomfoolery), but alas it still doesn't do squat anymore.

[schnappy]

You fluent in Japanese schnappy?


I can say a few things in German, about 1 or 2 words in chinese, and have adept knowledge of the English language :)

In other words, I know no Japanese at all.

BTW; I'll give you $5 for the busted Dreamcast. Will look 'aight in the shelf.

[Lazlow]

I'll tinker with it some more, to see if I can't revive it. Its doubtful, but I'd rather find a replacement before getting rid of it.

[madmangohan]

In other words, I know no Japanese at all.Good luck playing Shenmue without a guide then, as the Jap version is completely japanese (I should know, I bought a copy in Japan for no reason << ).
Although, ironically, Sega also released another version in japan a year or so later called US Shenmue, which was actually the english release encoded for use on a japanese dreamcast (yeah, i got that too << )


I'd keep the busted DC though Lazlow. Not only because you can tinker with it whenever you want in a chance to revive it, but it may come in handy for spare parts incase something happens to your possible future model that isn't lens related. Plus think of the pointless mods.
Funnily, that whole lens not moving happened to the first dreamcast I bought in Japan, literally after maybe an hour of use. I didn't touch the replacement one I got until I got back home, and amazingly, no issues still, which is surprising since both were second hand from the same shelf in SuperPotato <<

[Lazlow]

Yeah had another crack, and everything is functioning as it is supposed to; the spindle drive is fine and the lens moves about fine (both along the rails, and up and down in its cradle when you don't put a disc in), its purely not recognising any discs; legit, burnt or boot. This leads me to believe the lens has basically kicked it.

I wound the potentiometer back, and will occasionally wind it forward a quarter every now and then, but I'm pretty certain its dead. Its been on its last legs for a while; Ezri told me over a year ago to give up on it and get a new one.

[Blue]

Anyone got a spare AV cable? I can't find mine, and need Sonic Adventure love.

[schnappy]

Good luck playing Shenmue without a guide then, as the Jap version is completely japanese (I should know, I bought a copy in Japan for no reason << ).

I have no intentions of playing it, I already have Shenmue 1 and 2 which was given to me by sea dwellers that carry swords. C'mon, it was only $16, and I don't have any jap games yet :D

[Lazlow]

also forgot to mention that before my DC died, I was bitterly disappointed to find that a vibration pack doesn't add recoil to the light gun like I had hoped.

[schnappy]

I read on en ebay auction that it did. Well it wouldn't add recoil, but vibration.

[Lazlow]

Yeah thats all it does. Rumbles when there are explosions or when you are hit. Doesn't add any kick to shooting.

[madmangohan]

Yeah thats all it does. Rumbles when there are explosions or when you are hit. Doesn't add any kick to shooting.
That's why you'd want this. (http://cgi.ebay.com/Sega-Dreamcast-Hais-DC-Lightgun-with-Kick-Back_W0QQitemZ120252846587QQcmdZViewItem)

[schnappy]

That's why you'd want this. (http://cgi.ebay.com/Sega-Dreamcast-Hais-DC-Lightgun-with-Kick-Back_W0QQitemZ120252846587QQcmdZViewItem)

Dreamcast lightguns are a good investment:
6 months ago - 2 guns + HOTD2 = $60 (ebay au)
month or so ago - 1 gun = $50

All boxed blah blah blah...
Kickback gun - $66US

I'm getting one next week, cost me $20 + $10 postage from japan (buy it now price), not boxed but meh. I want one.

[madmangohan]

They look and feel great though. Got my first in the HOTD2 pack for i think sub $40, and then bought my second gun from the forums for another $40 (it came with a surprise vibration pack, so it was worth it).
Duel gun wielding HOTD2 is truely awsome. Just a shame nothing supports more than two guns though; there's probbably still one at my local GT's for $35.

[Nintendork]

Samba de Amigo got a PAL release didn't it, I can only seem to find Jap and US copies, but I used to play it all the time at a friends place when I was younger...was I playing an NTSC version that whole time, I'm pretty sure I saw it selling in the shops back in the day but.

[madmangohan]

Yeah, it got a Pal release, although I don't think it got a large one.
Ver. 2000 is far superior though, but from memory, thats japanese only.


On another note, Tokyo Bus Guide arrived this afternoon.
...the buses steer like shit

[schnappy]

After using my dreamcast gun for a bit, I can say that it is a very solid and well designed light gun. Looking at pics of it, it looks like a fugly thing from Halo. When you actually hold the gun it isn't a tiny toy gun as pics make it look like, it's actually quite wide and bulky - and very solid.

But I wouldn't say it is better than Gcon45's, they are also quite solid but their triggers are superior to anything else I've ever used.

[Old Stoney]

Yeah, it got a Pal release, although I don't think it got a large one.
Ver. 2000 is far superior though, but from memory, thats japanese only.
Yeah, it's rather rare and expensive and sort after by strange must-have-all-pal-release collectors. The US version will do just fine.

On another note, Tokyo Bus Guide arrived this afternoon.
...the buses steer like shit
They're supposed to, they're buses. You get used to it.

[concrete donkey]

i bought a copy of the u.s released Elemental gimmick gear for DC, and my boot disc wont boot the game up. stupid PAL. both my DC's wont play it. ps. where the hell is power stone 3, capcom? imagine the possiblities on the new consoles.....

[Marble]

i bought a copy of the u.s released Elemental gimmick gear for DC, and my boot disc wont boot the game up. stupid PAL. both my DC's wont play it. ps. where the hell is power stone 3, capcom? imagine the possiblities on the new consoles.....
Yeah some games just don't seem to want to work with boot discs. I've had Jap 3rd Strike for months and never actually played it because my boot disc doesn't play it, even though it plays my other Jap Street Fighter games fine.

[Ezri]

On another note, Tokyo Bus Guide arrived this afternoon.
...the buses steer like shit

THAT GAME IS AWESOME.

I love it so much, it is one of my favourite DC games.

Yeah some games just don't seem to want to work with boot discs. I've had Jap 3rd Strike for months and never actually played it because my boot disc doesn't play it, even though it plays my other Jap Street Fighter games fine.

Which boot disc are you using? I'm using the Action Replay CD Demo disc and I haven't had a JAP game that won't work (yet)!

[concrete donkey]

THAT GAME IS AWESOME.

I love it so much, it is one of my favourite DC games.



Which boot disc are you using? I'm using the Action Replay CD Demo disc and I haven't had a JAP game that won't work (yet)!

may i ask where you got your boot disc from? i would like to have one too. ive nevr driven a bus before...

[SOX]

Pretty sure you just google for like DC boot disk and theres a couple of options to pick from.

[Marble]

Which boot disc are you using? I'm using the Action Replay CD Demo disc and I haven't had a JAP game that won't work (yet)!
I'm using Utopia boot disc... forgot what version.

[concrete donkey]

I'm using Utopia boot disc... forgot what version.

where did you download it from?

[schnappy]

Utopia is most popular boot disc. I've never had to use on though since I don't have any import games that I intend to play.

http://rapidshare.com/files/24063220/UtopiaALL.rar

Note that it isn't my link, but the site I got it from isn't the most legally correct site.

If you don't know how to do it or having trouble downloading that;
http://dreamcast-talk.com/guides/utopia.html

[Marble]

where did you download it from?
Uh... the internet. :p Sorry, I really can't remember because it was ages ago.

[madmangohan]

...and so this (http://shenmue.planets.gamespy.com/whats_shenmue.shtml) arrived in the mail today.

[Ezri]

may i ask where you got your boot disc from? i would like to have one too. ive nevr driven a bus before...

I cannot remember, it was years ago.

But do a search for Dreamcast Action Replay Pro CDX Demo. There may even be a torrent for it nowadays.

[schnappy]

Don't buy a boot disc...

Just download Utopia.

[schnappy]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sega-Dreamcast-NTSC-US-System-with-manual-and-games_W0QQitemZ260260297427QQihZ016QQcategoryZ4313 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

An NTSC-U dreamcast with an Oz power supply put in, and apparently water cooling. Neat.

[madmangohan]

...interesting. Last I remember, the 'water cooled' dreamcasts were only inside the first japanese dreamcasts :/
I should really check if mine's one of those fandangled systems though. It's a japanese system, and well, the sticker on the back gives no indication whatsoever. Alot of people believe that the model HKT 3000 meant it was water cooled (and thats my model number), but im pretty sure there's enough doubt in that explaination to make it a wonky belief.
It's also got the following number: 670-14071B on the back also. It's certainly ties with the model somehow as google pops up at least one other entry with such a number, and images of other units show similar numbers as well.


Also, what's with the different companies listed on the back of the dreamcasts. I've got Sanwa Denki S on mine, and I've seen one with Ugo Denshi on its label.
They the companies which produced them or something?

[Lazlow]

I bought a replacement DC lens off ebay, but there's a good chance the dude was simply flogging DVD lenses under that guise.

Wont know until I install it.

[schnappy]

An easy way to tell from a PAL unit and a non-pal one (NTSC-U or NTSC-J) is from its top. Blue DC logo is pal. Orange is otherwise.

Looking at my dreamcast... look at the bottom of your DC, the big silver sticker, near the bottom, mine says [PAL | E] in a box... look for NTSC J or NTSC U.

Also I was assuming that the water cooling was a homebrewed thing, didn't know the DC ever had such a thing. Another innovation that the Dreamcast had...

/edit
Google'ed a bit...
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=345925
Pictures really help :) And I agree with the second poster, they're just heat pipes that apparently have fluid in them. Because I can't see a pump...
My PAL Dreamcast has no brands on it. Sanwa is a top notch arcade part brand though...

[Lazlow]

Well just installed the new laser unit, and whilst it fits fine and receives power, the threads on it are too round for the drive arm. So it doesn't move to scan the disc. In fact its so bad, tilting the console slides it up and down.

So I've either gotta find a thicker drive arm, a way to close the gap, or just suck it up and buy a new DC.

Option C is most likely.

[madmangohan]

Pics of issue?

Also, I finished What's Shenmue (http://shenmue.planets.gamespy.com/whats_shenmue.shtml) a day or so back. My lack of japanese was thankfully offset by my memory of the game design and that talking to people will eventually lead into one pointing you to the right place.
Sadly with very little of the game to explore (a street and a bit), I could probbably finish it within 5 minutes next time. But hey, I got to buy grape fanta from a vending machine. That shit is awesome (well the first few cans, then you just get sick from it. Melon flavour fw).

Kinda want to finish US Shenmue 'Jap version with english voices', and then (assuming it didn't have coke machines), go and play the jap shenmue of mine as well.
...and pray my dc doesn't cark it by the century it takes for me to do it.

[schnappy]

Lazlow, what are you going to do with the faulty one? I wouldn't mind it...

[StorminNorman]

I really need to start on my yearly Shenmue/Shenmue II playthrough. I should start the mental preparation now, in fact.

[madmangohan]

That bad a dub work eh
*ba dom tish*

[Xanafalgue]

About 3 weeks ago I was looking for a tutorial to fix the Dreamcasts' pins/reset problem and found a fix on youtube in which the demonstration consisted of a guy picking up his Dreamcast and giving the bottom of the console a swift smack.

Although kinky, I'd like to confirm that it does indeed work!

[Lazlow]

It won't open her up and push those pins.

[Johnny360]

Well, I grabbed out the good old Dreamcast the other day to play some Star Wars Pod Racer and Dynamite Cop. And it seems my internal battery is flat from not being used in awhile. I played for over 3 hours, and still now when I turn it on it asks for the date. Is the internal battery completely farked? Anyone come across this problem?

[concrete donkey]

yeah, both of my dcs do this. it dosnt effect playing games though. my dc's just keep on keeping on, once you learn how to clean the pins to stop it from resetting, the console dosnt miss a beat!

[StorminNorman]

That bad a dub work eh
*ba dom tish*

I love the games, but the English dubbing really does want to make you stick forks in your ears after a time.

[Marble]

Shenmue is probably my favourite game of all time. I still can't believe I haven't bought the sequel yet. I got used to the voice acting eventually, but sometimes it was really funny (meeting Chai for the first time made me burst out laughing).

A couple of days ago I played some Street Fighter 3: 2nd Impact on the DC. Damn awesome.

[madmangohan]

And it seems my internal battery is flat from not being used in awhile. I played for over 3 hours, and still now when I turn it on it asks for the date. Is the internal battery completely farked? Anyone come across this problem?Yeah, thats usually what it means. There should be some guides out there on how to replace the battery if you're game, but I personally don't see it as a big issue since I don't exactly play it constantly.

[concrete donkey]

what was everyones very first dc game that played back when the dc launched? mine was sega rally 2. i was blown away at how awesome it looked and how fast it played. the first game i bought was toy commander. it was the first time i'd ever seen massive fog-free environments. My fave DC game to date is still Powerstone 2, closely followed by Shenmue and Skies of arcadia.

[Nintendork]

When I bought my Dreamcast, I bought with it Sonic Adventure and Virtua Fighter 3tb. At the time I was blown away by Sonic because it was a completely different direction for the series, albeit now days the luster has worn off and I much prefer the original Mega Drive series. As for Virtua Fighter I was already aware of how awesome it was, so I was just pretty wrapped I could play it at home. As far as favourites go the three that really stand out are Shenmue, Grandia 2 and Jet Set Radio. Shenmue and Grandia 2 because they were just so immersive, and Jet Set Radio because at the time I had played nothing like it.

[concrete donkey]

yeah, jet set radio was good, but i much preferred the xbox jet set future. i found the first one so frustrating towards the end. the camera was never in the right position. its hard to believe that the same sega that puts out all the crap these days were also the creaters of one the best consoles ever. theyve fallen from grace. the crappy sonic games are their biggest sin.

[Nintendork]

Yeah, Sega was great in its heyday. The thing that impressed me most about the Dreamcast was that Sega seemed to have learned from a lot of their previous mistakes and corrected them when releasing it. It came with buff specs straight out the box so it wouldn't need revisions and console add-ons, they advertised it well, they released it well before the competition and they even promised 100 games would be out for it by the end of the year it was released (can't remember whether they met that quota). I think now days Sega just has a grudge on Sony and Nintendo so they've come up with some elaborate scheme to bring them down from the inside with shitty Sonic games.

[concrete donkey]

Yeah, Sega was great in its heyday. The thing that impressed me most about the Dreamcast was that Sega seemed to have learned from a lot of their previous mistakes and corrected them when releasing it. It came with buff specs straight out the box so it wouldn't need revisions and console add-ons, they advertised it well, they released it well before the competition and they even promised 100 games would be out for it by the end of the year it was released (can't remember whether they met that quota). I think now days Sega just has a grudge on Sony and Nintendo so they've come up with some elaborate scheme to bring them down from the inside with shitty Sonic games.

hahaha, maybe ur right!

[Old Stoney]

Got my dreamcast just before they announced that they would stop production. Didn't care though, as I had become symbiotically fused to Soul Calibur.

[concrete donkey]

Got my dreamcast just before they announced that they would stop production. Didn't care though, as I had become symbiotically fused to Soul Calibur.

was i dreaming or did i see soul calibour on xbox marketplace?

[Me]

Nah no dream, Soul Calibur is available on XBLA.

Personally I wouldn't bother (well I wouldn't bother anyway when I still have my Dreamcast & Soul Calibur, and with Soul Calibur 4 looming) as despite updated graphics and leaderboards, they've completely removed the story mode, it's still in 4:3, and lacks online play...

I suppose if you didn't own your Dreamcast/Soul Calibur 1 any longer and just wanted a Soul Calibur game easily available for play from your HDD then maybe look into it, otherwise Soul Calibur 2 is backwards compatible and Soul Calibur 4 is mere days away :)

[concrete donkey]

Nah no dream, Soul Calibur is available on XBLA.

Personally I wouldn't bother (well I wouldn't bother anyway when I still have my Dreamcast & Soul Calibur, and with Soul Calibur 4 looming) as despite updated graphics and leaderboards, they've completely removed the story mode, it's still in 4:3, and lacks online play...

I suppose if you didn't own your Dreamcast/Soul Calibur 1 any longer and just wanted a Soul Calibur game easily available for play from your HDD then maybe look into it, otherwise Soul Calibur 2 is backwards compatible and Soul Calibur 4 is mere days away :)

im not really into fighting games anyway. besides powerstone, which is more of a party game.

[Me]

Ah indeed!

[Ezri]

Soul Calibur is a more solid, balanced and complete fighting game than SC2 or 3 could ever hope to be.

[Me]

Hence I never mentioned 3 ;) But as for 2, granted I'm not touting to be 100% versed in all things Soul Calibur but I never heard of any glaringly game-breaking stuff in comparison to 1. Whatever differences there may be I don't think it'd ever be enough (at least for me) to warrant avoiding playing 2 over 1 when there is a bigger character roster and all the usual treatment you get from a sequel (especially so if you're not playing at a tournament level or anything).

[StorminNorman]

3 is a better game than 2, actually.

SC on XBLA is worth getting, despite the bizarre absence of story-mode. It's still the same awesome weapons-based 3D fighter that it was back when I was pumping hundreds of dollars into it at the arcades.

[Marble]

I liked SC3. Not that I ever played any of the SC games at a competitive level. I prefer the first, though.

[Ezri]

SC3's collision detection and physics consistency is laughable at best.

[concrete donkey]

are there any fans of ecco the dolphin DC here? hyper gave it a 90, while the ps2 version got crapped on. i never played it, so i dunno if it was differnt. i loved the DC version. i was hard in places, but one of my fave DC games for sure. i loved the environments.

[Marble]

So is this really an accurate list of all the 2D shooters on the DC? http://shmups.classicgaming.gamespy.com/xenocidefiles/dreamcast.html

Any thoughts on any of those games? I've recently purchased Gunbird 2 off ebay and am looking forward to that. I'm also quite interested in Chaos Field, but it's cheaper on the Gamecube.

[Nintendork]

are there any fans of ecco the dolphin DC here? hyper gave it a 90, while the ps2 version got crapped on. i never played it, so i dunno if it was differnt. i loved the DC version. i was hard in places, but one of my fave DC games for sure. i loved the environments.
Same here, loved the DC one, never played the PS2 version.



So is this really an accurate list of all the 2D shooters on the DC? http://shmups.classicgaming.gamespy.com/xenocidefiles/dreamcast.html

Any thoughts on any of those games? I've recently purchased Gunbird 2 off ebay and am looking forward to that. I'm also quite interested in Chaos Field, but it's cheaper on the Gamecube.

From that list I've played Giga Wing, Bangai Oh and Ikaruga. All of them I would highly recommend. Let me know how Gunbird is when you get it, I might have to get myself a copy...how much did yours cost (if you don't mind me asking).

[Marble]

From that list I've played Giga Wing, Bangai Oh and Ikaruga. All of them I would highly recommend. Let me know how Gunbird is when you get it, I might have to get myself a copy...how much did yours cost (if you don't mind me asking).
Haha, I don't mind. It was around $30 including postage from the UK (It's a pal copy). There's an auction for a copy on Aus ebay right now. And yeah I'll let you know how it is when it arrives.

[Ezri]

Zero Gunner II is the second best shmup on the Dreamcast (only behind Ikaruga and just ahead of Bangai-O).

[StorminNorman]

So is this really an accurate list of all the 2D shooters on the DC? http://shmups.classicgaming.gamespy.com/xenocidefiles/dreamcast.html

Any thoughts on any of those games?

Bangaioh - Apparently amazing. Haven't played it yet. DS version is due soon, and has already been declared the best DS game ever made.

Border Down - Marginally overrated horzie from G.Rev, with music by Zuntata. It's not terrible, but I honestly don't think it's as outstanding as its eBay price suggests. Has an interesting "border" mechanic for the life system.

Castle of Shikigami 2 - Slow-paced manic shooter that feels not entirely unlike the Touhou games. Fun enough, but not especially outstanding.

Chaos Field - "Poor man's Ikaruga" is how this gets described. ESPGaluda-style field-change mechanic. Apparently pretty good.

Giga Wing - Awesome shooter from Takumi. Intense, manic fun with a brilliant bullet-reflect mechanic. Second-highest scoring video game ever made.

Giga Wing 2 - Awesome sequel to above. Highest scoring game ever made. Good players regularly hit 20-digit scores. Nothing more fulfilling than reflecting a screenful of bullets and watching the multiplier go crazy.

Gunbird 2 - Second-best game Psikyo ever made, behind Strikers 2. Fantasy-based shooter with typical Psikyo-style medal-collecting system. Also has Marion.

Ikaruga - Pseudo-sequel to Radiant Silvergun and harbinger of the second coming. Or something. Brilliant game. If you don't own it somehow by now, then you're probably not a gamer.

Karous - Haven't played, don't know anything about. Apparently the name is supposed to be "Crows".

Last Hope - Neo Geo game ported to DC. Last game released on the DC, as far as I know.

Mars Matrix - The third Takumi shooter. Slightly different reflect mechanic to Giga Wing. Probably the deepest of their games, too. The bonus features on the DC version are probably the best collection of extras ever in a video game, and certainly set the trend for unlockable extras for the next generation of video games. Definitely worth getting.

Psyvariar - Odd little shooter that's built around the concept of bullet-grazing. Play as close to the bullets as you can for massive score bonuses. Has very short levels and a pumping electronic soundtrack.

Psyvariar 2 - More of the above, but with better music.

Radilgy - Also called Radio Allergy. Know nothing else.

Trigger Heart Excelica - Middling shooter with interesting grab/throw mechanic. Came out on XBLA as an excuse for not releasing Ikaruga, but didn't make up for Ikaruga release a short while later. Actually pretty fun, especially for the lolicon crowd.

Trizeal - I think this is the other game by the Chaos Field guys. Know nothing else about it.

Twinkle Star Sprites - Possibly the only versus shooter ever made. DC version is an inferior port of the Neo Geo original. Get the superior Saturn version. Actually really fun competitive shooter with a Puyo Puyo-style split-screen thing going on.

Under Defeat - The other G.Rev game. Don't know anything, though I hear it's a bit shit.

Zero Gunner 2 - Stunning game from Psikyo. You have the ability to rotate your ship around on the screen, allowing for multi-directional fire. Really clever, and really innovative shooter, and definitely worth having a play with.

Despite all the post-2001 shooters that came out for it, the Dreamcast is still nowhere near as good for shooting fans as the Saturn and PS2 are. That said, a large number of its shooters are exclusive, as they're mostly NAOMI ports (except in the case of Giga Wing and Mars Matrix, which are CPS2 ports).

Some games have shown up on other platforms:

Bangaioh - Has a somewhat different N64 version, and a DS pseudo-sequel. All three are quite different to each other.
Castle of Shikigami 2 - Ported to pretty much everything except the XBox.
Gunbird 2 - Ported with Gunbird 1 to PS2 as part of the Simple 2000 series. Released in the West as Gunbird Special Edition, but with the high-score save feature excised. :(
Ikaruga - Has a Gamecube port that was almost released in Australia. PAL version is terrible though, so avoid. Also ported to XBLA, although this too is inferior to the DC/Arcade versions.
Psyvariar - Ported to the PS2 as part of the Simple 2000 series. Contained a bonus remix version called Psyvariar Revision.
Psyvariar 2 - Ported to PS2.
Radilgy - I think this got ported to the Gamecube at some point.
Trigger Heart Excelica - Ported to XBLA.
Trizeal - I think this got GC and PS2 ports.
Twinkle Star Sprites - Was originally ported to the Saturn. Apparently that version is better than the DC version. There's also a PS2 sequel that's apparently pretty good.

[Lazlow]

Psyvariar 2 > Psyvariar. More than better music - better craft, designs, visuals.

I can't see how Chaos Field is the poor man's Ikaruga :/ Its unique in the sense that its essentially a stream of boss battles. No going through wave after wave of little guys, you basically take on massive craft from the get go. It was also ported to the Gamecube and PS2.

[Marble]

Thanks for posting that, you seem to know what you're talking about so it's good to have some guide lines around what to get and what to avoid. :)
Radilgy - I think this got ported to the Gamecube at some point.
Yeah I think it did, but only in Japan.

Also; I have the pal version of Ikaruga on the Gamecube. Why's the pal version terrible?

[Old Stoney]

So is this really an accurate list of all the 2D shooters on the DC?
Somewhat, although I am fairly certain that the first Psyvariar was not released on DC. I own everything on the list except for that.
Also, if Last Hope counts, then Dux is due out August 28, so you can add that to the list soon.

EDIT: I've confirmed that Psyvariar 1 was not released on DC, Success only released 6 games on DC
T-9901M Rainbow Cotton (20/1/00)
T-9902M Shanghai Dynasty (16/3/00)
T-9904M Neo Golden Logres (26/10/00)
T-9905M Konohana: True Report (26/4/01)
T-9906M Konohana 2: Todoka Nai Requiem (28/11/02)
T-9907M Psyvariar 2: The Will to Fabricate (26/2/04)


are there any fans of ecco the dolphin DC here?
The ecco series is perhaps one of the most under-appreciated series of games in the history of gaming, particularly Defender of the Future. On a good day, you could get me to say that it is my all time favourite DC game.

Karous - Haven't played, don't know anything about. Apparently the name is supposed to be "Crows".
This is the third milestone game, a pseudo-ish sequel of sorts to radilgy. I liked it better than radilgy. This is the last officially released DC game (Mar 8, 07, Last Hope was released Jan 31, 07)

Trizeal - I think this is the other game by the Chaos Field guys. Know nothing else about it.
This isn't a milestone game. It's an independent game by Triangle Service, who consisted of basically one guy and a couple of his mates. This would be in my top 3 dreamcast shooters, because I like the old-school simplicity and the music. There was talk of the sequel, Exzeal, being released to co-incide with the Dreamcast's tenth anniversary (Nov 27, 08) but I haven't heard anything as of yet.

Under Defeat - The other G.Rev game. Don't know anything, though I hear it's a bit shit.
Really? I love it, but I guess I love the old school stuff. Under Defeat is the most beautiful game on Dreamcast, beautiful in graphics and beautiful in design and execution.

[SOX]

How exactly is the XBLA Ikaruga inferior to the DC one?

[Lazlow]

"The XBLA version of Ikaruga is a horrible port," states Kingoro58k on his gamertag bio. "This isn't Ikaruga, this is Ikaruga LOL."

Kingoro58k is offended by the number of changes found in the XBLA version versus the Dreamcast version, such as different enemy placement and the mirroring of certain elements so everything's backwards. Our resident Ikarugauthority, Topher "Mothershmupper" Cantler, considers the game a worthy port, and wasn't nearly as upset by the changes as this particularly peeved gamer.

Probably just pissed because he has to relearn patterns >_>

[schnappy]

How exactly is the XBLA Ikaruga inferior to the DC one?

#1 - it isn't on DC
#2 - I can't afford it
#3 - Hmm... Ikaruga is on XBLA?

[Old Stoney]

http://www.blog.hucast.net/dux.png
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hucast.net (http://www.hucast.net/shop/page/3?shop_param=)
Anyone else pre-ordered Dux? I'm looking forward to it. Loving the art design.

[Lazlow]

Dunno what it is, but I can never get into side scrolling shooters.

[Marble]

Yeah I've seen gameplay footage of it and while I also liked the art design, the enemy patterns looked a bit boring. Yeah I much prefer vertical shooters, don't know why.

[Old Stoney]

No R-type/Gradius lovin'? I grew up with R-Type and Thunder Force, so I loves me a good horizontal shooter. I'm not saying Dux is likely to match those classics, just saying I've got nothing against the style. I love curtain shooters too, so I'm not fussy. I like it both ways (snigger)

[Ezri]

I like both styles equally (although I USED to prefer horizontals, until I actually played some good verticals besides Raiden).

R-Type III and Gradius IV would be my favourite horizontals, with Zero Gunner II and Ikaruga being my favourite verticals.

[Nintendork]

I like both styles equally (although I USED to prefer horizontals, until I actually played some good verticals besides Raiden).

R-Type III and Gradius IV would be my favourite horizontals, with Zero Gunner II and Ikaruga being my favourite verticals.

The first R-Type game I played was R-Type Delta, the 3D one on playstation. I loved that game so I then went and found some of the others and R-Type 3 was my favourite as well.

[Ezri]

Delta is pretty f'kn awesome, but III just pips it imo.

[craptest]

Delta is pretty f'kn awesome, but III just pips it imo.

I have much love for the original. For me....

R-type > R-Type Delta > R-Type III > R-Type II > R-Type Final > R-Type Leo

Though for most people I'd probably slot the original R-Type behind R-Type 3 & Delta.

[Marble]

Yeah... I think I played R-Type like, once. Not a fan of Thunderforce and don't think I've ever played Gradius. I just haven't put a decent time into any 2D shooter. I've been a bit interested in them lately and I don't know why but I've turned to the Dreamcast. I guess I'm not really too interested in the older shmups at this point in time.

[Ezri]

I seem to like R-Type Final a lot more than most people.

[craptest]

Yeah... I think I played R-Type like, once. Not a fan of Thunderforce and don't think I've ever played Gradius. I just haven't put a decent time into any 2D shooter. I've been a bit interested in them lately and I don't know why but I've turned to the Dreamcast. I guess I'm not really too interested in the older shmups at this point in time.

Ignoring Ikaruga, BORDER DOWN was probably my favourite DC shmup. But I wouldnt be paying the ridiculously inflated prices people are asking now. As far as sidescrollers go it's very good. But it's no Einhander (PSX), R-Type Delta (PSX), or Gradius V (PS2). Keep that in mind when youre about to sacrifice your wallet.

And while Im here (I realise this is probably the wrong thread to ask in - but there's retro people of all types here) is CONTRA SHATTERED SOLDIER worth getting? (its better than Contra 4 ...right?)

[Old Stoney]

Ignoring Ikaruga, BORDER DOWN was probably my favourite DC shmup. But I wouldnt be paying the ridiculously inflated prices people are asking now.

The price of the regular edition has come down a bit due to limited re-release earlier this year. I bought one to go with my limited edition to complete my G.rev collection, and also gain bragging rights for owning the last ever produced official dreamcast GD-rom.

[craptest]

.....and also gain bragging rights for owning the last ever produced official dreamcast GD-rom. Bet it impresses the ladies :p

[Old Stoney]

Bet it impresses the ladies :p
Don't be so quick to jest, you'd be surprised....


No, actually you wouldn't. So far it has not worked to increase my standing with the ladies, but I live in eternal hope.

[schnappy]

Telling them that you found a way to help a multi-national company called Sega in the stock market may work.


Segagaga ftw.

[StorminNorman]

I've been a bit interested in them lately and I don't know why but I've turned to the Dreamcast. I guess I'm not really too interested in the older shmups at this point in time.

Honestly, if you're looking for a system to play shooting games on, then get a Saturn. Be warned that Saturn shooting game collecting is an expensive, yet very rewarding, hobby.

Once you're done with the Saturn, grab a PS2, as it also has a pretty good line-up of shooting games.

[UKG.]

Undusted the dreamcast and was playing Ferrari,crazy taxi, UFC, then cranked up the fishing rod controller for some bass fishing. It has been years and no other console has been as original with the graphics to boot.

[Marble]

Honestly, if you're looking for a system to play shooting games on, then get a Saturn. Be warned that Saturn shooting game collecting is an expensive, yet very rewarding, hobby.

Once you're done with the Saturn, grab a PS2, as it also has a pretty good line-up of shooting games.
Funnily enough, I was until recently a Saturn owner but then I sold it because I knew I wasn't going to have any more great gaming experiences without forking out huge amounts of cash for each game! :p

[SOX]

Does the VGA adapter thingo make the picture quality come out better or does it come out blurry on a LCD screen like most older consoles?
Only asking because I only have an RF unit atm and that is pretty unreliable so I'm thinking to replace it.

[Lazlow]

Be cautious, the VGA adapter wasn't compatible with all games. I know one of the King of Fighters wasn't.

[schnappy]

But is compatible with most games... if you get an image of a DC game (pirate... download them) you can hex edit a number to enable VGA mode. Works fine with most games, but it doesn't work on all games (Screws graphics up etc. Every game I've done it on it has worked).

I'd recomend that you do get the VGA adaptor. It isn't a generic one that converts AV to VGA... the Dreamcast natively outputs VGA. So it works well. On newer LCDs that have sharp pictures, it doesn't look as nice as it does on my 17" Phillips CRT. Which it does look quite nice on :) (Though it's really all I've ever used it on so I can't give a to comprehensive comparison).

[Lezard]

Be cautious, the VGA adapter wasn't compatible with all games. I know one of the King of Fighters wasn't.

Yup and a few pal games even had the vga capability removed so if a pal game doesn't have it, be sure to check that it's not in a ntsc version either.

[Marble]

So, latest DC games. Gunbird 2; it's pretty excellent. Fast paced, great enemy placement and bullet patterns, looks pretty. Also love how the first few stages are in random order. Metropolis Street Racer; haven't actually played it much because there wasn't enough space on my VMU to save, but I smiled on the inside when I started driving for the first time and a cheesy guitar riff started playing, because it let me know that the game was made of 100% Dreamcast.

[Xanafalgue]

I've never played MSR!

I remember gawking at the screens and videos prior to it's release though, it looked amazing for it's time.

Has anyone ever played Evolution for the DC ? As I recall, it was one of the first games ever shown for it, if not THE first!

[Lezard]

MSR was cheap on play-asia not too long ago. They might still have copies left.

I never was able to get Gunbird 2 on the DC. Eventually I opted for the PS@ port but the slowdown reeks.

[ian]

had my dc since 2001, got a second one this year (the first still works fine except for the power light).
i have:
2 dreamcasts (1 in original box, both working cdr reading models)
shenmue (and i got the guide after i finished it)
shenmue 2 (also on xbox)
grandia 2
crazy taxi
jet set radio
daytona usa 2001
sonic adventure
soul calibur
metropolis street racer
virtua tennis
house of the dead 2
sega gt
vigilante 8: second offence
le mans 24 hours
sega rally 2
power stone
red dog: superior firepower
speed devils
4 demo disks
all original pal in collectors condition
plus about 20 others that i can't mention for obious reasons lol
6 official pads, 4 vmus (1 green), arcade stick, light gun, official carry case, plus a few mags and heaps of other promotional material that i've picked up over the years.

i think its the best console of all time, yet i think it's time to downsize

[schnappy]

You have the carry case :O I want one of those to come up on eBay... my poor boxless DC has no home.

[ian]

You have the carry case :O I want one of those to come up on eBay... my poor boxless DC has no home.


yeah i got it for $15 in early 2007 at gametraders. and it was used every few months, it now houses my second dc, as i got it cheap off ebay without a box.

if i ever get serious about downsizing, you can have it lol.. but i've been going to do it for 3 and a half years now. and keep getting more :) one day i'll sell it all except for 1 dc, vmu, jet set radio and daytona usa.... one day lol

[concrete donkey]

I've never played MSR!

I remember gawking at the screens and videos prior to it's release though, it looked amazing for it's time.

Has anyone ever played Evolution for the DC ? As I recall, it was one of the first games ever shown for it, if not THE first!

i realy liked evolution. it got crap reviews, but it was one of the first rpgs i ever played, so i realy got into it. if you've been playing rpgs for years, and have played everything from final fantasy to atelier iris, you may find it very boring these days. the gamecube got evolution worlds, which was evolution 1 and 2 with slightly better graphics. ive seen it in some ebs around the place.

[ian]

wait? "I've never played MSR!" how did i miss that???
larz. you HAVE to get this game.. it's worth $100 or more for the soundtrack alone.
lets get it on tonight.. HAHAHAHAHAHA good times :)

[madmangohan]

MvC2 had it better. "I'm gonna take you for a ride..."
Can't forget Sega Rally's "Game Over Yeeeaahhh..."

What the hell were they thinking with that <<

[Marble]

MvC2 had it better. "I'm gonna take you for a ride..."
Can't forget Sega Rally's "Game Over Yeeeaahhh..."

What the hell were they thinking with that <<
I ****ing love that cheesy shit from SEGA.

BLUE, BLUE SKIES, OOOOOOOOOOOOOH!

[Xanafalgue]

I ****ing love that cheesy shit from SEGA.

BLUE, BLUE SKIES, OOOOOOOOOOOOOH!

Ahahaha, I love their Daytona soundtrack!

"BRU BRU Skies" indeed

I wanna FLYYYyyyy SKYYY HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH :D:D

Ahem.

And yes, ian, I've never played it, but if I see it I'll pick it up!

[schnappy]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sega-Dreamcast-Complete-Package-DEAL-OF-A-LIFETIME_W0QQitemZ230284816839QQihZ013QQcategoryZ4 313QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

That guy has so made the picture look like theres more it than there is as per the description... no way all that stuff is worth $500 already with 5 days to go. Though, 160 games definately puts it up there... but I can guarantee they're all copied cds. So they ain't worth squat, but I've noticed that auctions with the copied games, despite being copied, it still puts the price up a fair bit.

[ian]

i bet if i sold my lot it'd get more.. hell, i've knocked back $120 offers for grandia 2 alone. lol oh and larz i have the soundtrack to msr.. and crazy taxi :)

[DrSeti]

The Dc had heaps of classic games, i really cant see how it failed. bad timing i guess.

[madmangohan]

Not bad timing, just terrible luck. Sega didn't exactly have the best image before the Dreamcast, and once the Sony hype train pulled up to tout the PS2, it was game over.

[Lazlow]

The Dreamcast also had zero marketing strategy.

[Me]

Yeah Sony had some pretty aggressive/smart marketing behind it, mind you I had to laugh at the trucks Sega pulled up outside Sony buildings with the kid pulling a face, in response to their shipping delays I think it was? Can't find anything about it now though...

[Ezri]

The Dreamcast also had zero marketing strategy.
The Dreamcast marketing strategy was reasonably strong in the US, which is funnily enough, the only region where it was reasonably competitive.

I was in the US in December 2000, and comparatively, there was a hell of a lot more Dreamcast advertising than there was for the PS2. There was plenty of displays in stores and they even monopolised the entire gaming areas in Disneyland and DisneyWorld.

Unfortunately, the 5 pounds they spent on marketing in Europe, UK and Australia wasn't enough.

[madmangohan]

Can't find anything about it now though...here (http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/2000/11/40170) and here (http://www.megagames.com/news/html/console/segamockssony.shtml)

[raz0r]

Cant wait till Sega finally rises again and makes an awsome new console with the technology they steal from sony, nintendo and microsoft muajahah

[TimChuma]

I thought Daytona went:
I want to fly sky high! Go to gay bars!

No? Just me then....

My games list
Crazy Taxi
Daytona USA 2001
GTA 2
House of the Dead 2 + Gun
Jet Set Radio
Power Stone
Resident Evial Code: Veronica
Shenmue
Skies of Arcadia
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Soul Calibur
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
Wacky Races

Just sitting my cupboard at the moment. All with original cases and instruction booklets. I think I even kept the box the light gun came in.

[ian]

I thought Daytona went:
I want to fly sky high! Go to gay bars!

No? Just me then....

My games list
Crazy Taxi
Daytona USA 2001
GTA 2
House of the Dead 2 + Gun
Jet Set Radio
Power Stone
Resident Evial Code: Veronica
Shenmue
Skies of Arcadia
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Soul Calibur
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
Wacky Races

Just sitting my cupboard at the moment. All with original cases and instruction booklets. I think I even kept the box the light gun came in.

wanna sell me skies of arcadia and sonic 2?

[Xanafalgue]

Cant wait till Sega finally rises again and makes an awsome new console with the technology they steal from sony, nintendo and microsoft muajahah

They're probably reading this and TAKING NOTES.

It wouldn't suprise me if the entire Sega R&D department was scouring forums for ideas on a dial up connection.

[Gemerald]

While watching Shinobi tool assisted speed runs I came across this for Altered Beast.

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[Marble]

Speed runs are all well and good, but I've no idea why this is in the DC appreciation thread.

[Gemerald]

Speed runs are all well and good, but I've no idea why this is in the DC appreciation thread.

^ I couldn't find anywhere else to put it. Everyone could use a little nostalgia.

[Ezri]

Altered Beast is so shit.

[schnappy]

Altered Beast is so shit.

I've only played it for 5 mins, but in that small 5 mins I was quite impressed. That's just from memory though..

I thought Daytona went:
I want to fly sky high! Go to gay bars!

No? Just me then....

My games list
Crazy Taxi
Daytona USA 2001
GTA 2
House of the Dead 2 + Gun
Jet Set Radio
Power Stone
Resident Evial Code: Veronica
Shenmue
Skies of Arcadia
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Soul Calibur
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
Wacky Races

Just sitting my cupboard at the moment. All with original cases and instruction booklets. I think I even kept the box the light gun came in.

What part of Melbourne are you in? I want some of them!

[Ezri]

There are beat 'em ups on the Master System that are more enjoyable and technically impressive than MD Altered Beast.

[Gemerald]

Altered Beast is so shit.

^ So you couldn't get past level 3 either. Yeah me too.

[Ezri]

Actually I passed level 1 and threw the game away in disgust because it sucks so much (this back in the mid-90's). I still have the same reaction today.

[Marble]

lol, same.

[Dr Skinnybones]

It was the first pack-in for the system though, wasn't it?

Certainly nostalgia for the very early adopters. Didn't it also come quite close to the arcade version (thereby boosting MD's power cred)?

[Nintendork]

I didn't mind Altered Beast, yet everyone I've talked about it with, hated it. I mean it was a bit slow and clunky, and I'll admit it's not an exceptional game, but I still enjoyed it.

[Ezri]

It was the first pack-in for the system though, wasn't it?

Certainly nostalgia for the very early adopters. Didn't it also come quite close to the arcade version (thereby boosting MD's power cred)?

Yeah, AB was the original pack-in title for the Genesis/Mega Drive. It helped establish the system as proof that 16-bit was the future of gaming by being able to reproduce faithful arcade ports.

Of course - the game is crap whether you're playing it at the arcade or at home.

The pack-in title changed in 1991 when Sonic the Hedgehog was released (again, hardly a stellar title but certainly much better than AB).

[Dr Skinnybones]

Yeah I was certain that was the case.

[Lazlow]

Anyone still looking for a PAL Dreamcast mainboard?

I've now got a fully functional replacement console, so its no longer needed... not that it was doing anything in the first place.

[schnappy]

Just the mainboard? No case/PSU/gd-rom?

[Lazlow]

No, the whole console. Remembering the GD-Rom laser is fried hence it being non-functional.

[schnappy]

So it's the whole shizbam except for the GD-ROM drive? Name a price and PM me :)

[Lazlow]

Well the drive is still in there, just not working (on the account of the replacement lense unit's eyelets being too big for the drive mechanism threads, thus not moving).

$30 incl post?

[schnappy]

Hit me with a PM with payment details :)

I assume its PSU is working?

[schnappy]

I sent the money a while ago Laz - and some PM's since. Wakey wakey?

[Xanafalgue]

So, lets say I own a DC game but the disc is broken.

Seen as the DC was discontinued prematurely some time ago, lets say I'd want to acquire a replacement online and make it function on my Dreamcast.

Plz point me in the right directions!

[Lazlow]

www.ebay.com

www.ebay.co.uk

www.ebay.com.au

[Lezard]

Could try here but they don't turn up very often.

http://www.hyper.com.au/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=22

[Marble]

On Friday, I pulled my DC apart and cleaned those... pin things. Now it works fine again!

I was so happy to be able to play SFIII: Double Impact and try out some combos I heard about months ago. And I tried speed running Sonic Adventure levels, something I haven't done since 07. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqmq-64Uq_g Pretty sure I have the best time in the world for this level if we just count times on the original Sonic Adventure.

<3 Dreamcast

[concrete donkey]

On Friday, I pulled my DC apart and cleaned those... pin things. Now it works fine again!

I was so happy to be able to play SFIII: Double Impact and try out some combos I heard about months ago. And I tried speed running Sonic Adventure levels, something I haven't done since 07. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqmq-64Uq_g Pretty sure I have the best time in the world for this level if we just count times on the original Sonic Adventure.

<3 Dreamcast

yeah, when the dreamcast came out, it was one of my favourite gaming eras. so many awesome games - shenmue, ecco, fur fighters, tony hawk, and so many splitsreen mulitplayer hours. powerstone 2, worms armagedon, virtua tennis. poor dreamcast.