Pokemon Gold and Silver (DS) - Catch 'em All Again on the 25th of March

[FX-GTZ]

In related news, I just grinded for a couple of hours to get all my Pokemon to lvl 40 for the Elite 4.
Go to roughly level 50 with all of your pokemon. It is better to be stronger just in case the last few pokemon trainers are tough as hell.

[AranchineD]

-That is a boat, it cannot drive on land.
-See above.

Oh, I forgot, people from South Australia wouldn't have even heard of these mythical steel beasts that float on water called 'ferries'. http://www.uyac.com.au/forum/images/smilies/1.jpg

[BB2K]

You're a funny guy, Aran, I like you.

That is why I'm going to kill you last.

[FrozenSoul80]

I'd forgotten how awesome Alakazam is. Level 40 with choice specs, the Elite Four won't know what hit them.

[BB2K]

I'd forgotten how awesome Alakazam is. Level 40 with choice specs, the Elite Four won't know what hit them.

Except for that Dark training bitch who will own you.

[Mr Pie]

So long as he has focus blast he should be fine.

[FrozenSoul80]

Shit, was she Generation 2?

So long as he has focus blast he should be fine.

You're a genius.

[BB2K]

Shit, was she Generation 2?

She sure was, I was doing swimmingly until I got up to her >_>

[FX-GTZ]

Apparently this is how you'd want your Alakazam:
http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/065/movesets

I disagree with Slot 3 though, because you dont need a move to be fire on a psychic if you got a fire type already in your main party.

Edit: im not sure if the moveset is for HG/SS, it doesnt say on the page if it is or not.

[Spazzallo]

Apparently this is how you'd want your Alakazam:
http://www.psypokes.com/dex/psydex/065/movesets

I disagree with Slot 3 though, because you dont need a move to be fire on a psychic if you got a fire type already in your main party.

Edit: im not sure if the moveset is for HG/SS, it doesnt say on the page if it is or not.

Wouldn't the power of each punch be quite low considering Alakazam's base attack stat is rather low?

[FX-GTZ]

Wouldn't the power of each punch be quite low considering Alakazam's base attack stat is rather low?
It depends what class type the move is, physical or element based?

[Mr Pie]

Usually... a punch is physical... just saying

[Nic Xtreme]

The punches are now physical, and thus useless on Alakazam. Focus Blast, a slightly inaccurate (70%) but rather powerful fighting special attack is a good choice, available for just P5500 at your local Goldenrod Department Store!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/960099/59299

^ This is a great guide for some fantastic (some would say...the best choice!) for movesets on your pokes for getting through the game! It features "before" Elite 4 sets, too, featuring the best possible moves your poke would have via Levelling/TMs/Heart Scale. It's great!

[BB2K]

I just killed the shit out of the Elite Four, mostly thanks to my Lugia. As soon as I got to Kanto, though, Lt. Surge killed me easily. **** grinding >_>

[Nic Xtreme]

Do want! (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/03/the-greatest-school-bus-in-japan/#more-386230)

[FX-GTZ]

Funny how they put the master ball at the back of the bus, its like they're saying " ***k off losers "

[FF Freak]

Picked up the Heart Gold version on sunday because all my friends have soul silver. I'm only up to the third gym though as juggling 4 different games is getting a bit ridiculous.

Not sure if this has been mentioned but there's supposed to be a new pokewalker route available between 1 April to 3rd march for download over wi-fi where the only pokemon are pikachu's but you'll have the chance to catch one with either surf or fly.

[Bokracroc]

Yeah, that Miltank fight was a bitch for me, too. I only had junk Pokemon left by the end of it so I was forced to use sand attack, potions and patience until it destroyed itself with struggle.
Considering I just Double-Kicked my way through all of the trainers in the gym losing no more than 20HP....
I wonder if Nintendo will ever make a Pokemon that goes through all regions. Kanto Johto and the other 2.
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/2/2a/RegionsMoviesMap.jpg

Oh gawd, it sounds like a good idea but it would be dominated by the breeding/'IV'/HardcoreMath Pokenerds and would ruin it for everyone else.

[FF Freak]

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/2/2a/RegionsMoviesMap.jpg

Oh gawd, it sounds like a good idea but it would be dominated by the breeding/'IV'/HardcoreMath Pokenerds and would ruin it for everyone else.

That seems insane just off the movie map.

http://www.serebii.net/pokearth/

this is a map based off all the games including the GCN game and the pokemon ranger games. There is one section on it that isn't out yet as it's the next pokemon ranger game.

[Blob]

That seems insane just off the movie map.

http://www.serebii.net/pokearth/

this is a map based off all the games including the GCN game and the pokemon ranger games. There is one section on it that isn't out yet as it's the next pokemon ranger game.

What doesnt make sense is that Sinnoh Isnt further north, what with it being frozen over at the top.

[FF Freak]

that is a little weird when you think about it.

[FrozenSoul80]

My memory is a little hazy, but didn't Mr Fuji in Lavender Town have a big speech about removing the graves from Pokemon Tower to make room for a Radio Tower? He doesn't seem to care any more.

[Mr Pie]

He started to listen to Triple M.

[Ninjalada]

Oh man, I really want a Murkrow but they're so hard to catch in the Safari Zone!

Is there any special combination of bait and mud that works best?

[Spazzallo]

Bait makes Pokemon more likely to stay but harder to catch.
Vice versa for throwing rocks.

Or you could go to Route 7 at night where they're fairly common :).

Just got up to the Elite 4 for the second time. Wiped out on the first trainer :(. Gotta train up my Houndoom some more so he can destroy her.

[TimmyJ]

Yeah, I'm missing a good dark type...Murkrow's attack is awesome but defences are pretty terrible, and it's evolved form is a bit slow.
I already have a fire type in Typhlosion so i don't want a Houndoom, which is too low defensively IMO.
Umbreon is too defensive...Cacturne's pretty powerful, and I imported one with Pal Park, I might go with that and see how it works out. I have Espeon, Flygon, Ampharos, Gyarados and Typhlosion in my team so a Grass/Dark wouldn't fit too badly.

[Kasplatza Red]

You can get a murkrow on the pokewalker somewhere, I believe.

I'm up to the third gym, training up my gastly and my butterfree (as my totodile and pidgeotto are both tanks now), and my mother keeps buying items with my savings! D:

[Jickle]

Sort of regretting my decision to go with Totodile - I forgot that Pokemon games featured so many damn water types. I could really do with a fire type about now, too.

But then, if I had a Typholsion or whatever they're called I'd just dump it the second I got a Charmander anyway.

[Nic Xtreme]

Sort of regretting my decision to go with Totodile - I forgot that Pokemon games featured so many damn water types. I could really do with a fire type about now, too.

But then, if I had a Typholsion or whatever they're called I'd just dump it the second I got a Charmander anyway.

Get a Growlithe! They are badarse! Though I think they're only in Heart Gold?

[FrozenSoul80]

I'm really struggling to comprehend why anyone would choose anything other than Cyndaquil.

[Lex]

Because its a gay anteater and totodile is a sweet crocodil.

Yeah, I'm also regretting not picking cyndaquil :(

[JubeiSaotome]

Brotodile.

[Mr Pie]

I just realised, why dont team rocket use guns?
I reckon if some team rocket guy came up to you with an Assault Rifle, you'd pretty much do what he/she says...
Just putting it out there.

[BB2K]

I just realised, why dont team rocket use guns?
I reckon if some team rocket guy came up to you with an Assault Rifle, you'd pretty much do what he/she says...
Just putting it out there.

There are no guns in the Pokemon cannon, apart from in the anime where an episode with actual guns was banned, or those crappy ones Team Rocket use to shoot nets and shit.

My Pupitar is lvl 53. Almost. All my others are lagging behind at around 43, though >_>

[FrozenSoul80]

Pfft, who needs guns when you have TM 15.

[Mr Pie]

Hyper Beam kicks everythings ass.

[Ninjalada]

Get a Growlithe! They are badarse! Though I think they're only in Heart Gold?

Yeah, Heart Gold only. Mine just learnt Flamethrower. :)

I just spoke to the two old guys in the Game Corner who exchange coins for prizes and wtf @ things costing thousands of coins? It took me around 50 games just to get 100 coins, I don't really want to have to flip cards for 2 weeks straight.

[TimmyJ]

I beat Red! So I can get one of the original Kanto starters from Professor Oak.
I'll probably go Charmander, even though I probably won't dump my Typhlosion.
Depends what version you have but I usually try to get Arcanine, Magmar or Ninetails if I don't pick a Fire-type starter.

[FrozenSoul80]

Yeah, Heart Gold only. Mine just learnt Flamethrower. :)

I just spoke to the two old guys in the Game Corner who exchange coins for prizes and wtf @ things costing thousands of coins? It took me around 50 games just to get 100 coins, I don't really want to have to flip cards for 2 weeks straight.

In the original I just paid for coins at the counter. Why they removed this I don't understand.

[TimmyJ]

In the original I just paid for coins at the counter. Why they removed this I don't understand.

Same, between beating the elite four with pokemon holding the luck incense/amulet coin, and my savings, I have about 400,000 yen and almost nothing to spend it on. :(

[Kasplatza Red]

Man, I'm so behind! I havn't beaten the third gym leader yet <_<

[Queenie]

you think you're behind? I just bought this today.

I am v. happy.

[Spazzallo]

Well, clocked up 50 hours played so far (so that averages to 5 hours a day, holy crap =/) with 59 Pokemon caught. Tried the Elite 4 rematches again, got up to the 4th one and wiped out completely. I really need a fighting move to take down those Dark Pokemon :(. Got a long way to go before I'm ready to take on Red. Currently got at team of Feraligatr, Dragonite, Alakazam and Jolteon all between level 56-59 and a Houndoom on level 50.

I've noticed that eggs come so much faster this time around then in the original. I left my Flereon in the day care centre and I have yet another Eevee egg even though the last one I got hasn't even hatched yet!

Also if anyone is willing to trade, I have Flareon and Vaporeon if you'd like one to breed your own Eevees and I am hatching a Tododile egg. Once I beat Red I will have a few Charmander eggs and Trecko (I think thats his name, the Grass pokemon from Generation 3) to trade for other starters. It'll have to wait until next week though.

[TimmyJ]

Pretty good team spazzallo, and you've managed to keep all their levels similar...
mine are now ranging mainly from 75-80 but my poor Ampharos is only 65 or something. Gotta train him up...he's really slow but his special attack stat is about 215.
My strongest is Flygon which was a godsend when it came to beating Red's Pikachu.

[Nic Xtreme]

...and my mother keeps buying items with my savings! D:

She just bought me a freaking Choice Scarf! :D

[scoz]

I've been dragged back in after 10 whole years. Funny, a game I stopped playing because of peer pressure I started playing again because of peer pressure.

Trying to get my Smeargle back up to scratch. When I was catching it it used sketch on my Tentacruel which pissed it away on acid, so it's going to take 40 levels before it's even READY to go for the Hydro Pump, Thunder, Flamethrower and Hyper Beam powerhouse I had back in the day.

Coming as someone who hasn't played it in so long, I would have liked it if some of the "new" pokemon (ie anything since original gold/silver) had been added to old areas. I haven't seen any pokemon yet that I didn't back in the day.

Loving it though. Shall be up for some wifi battles once I have my 6 ready to go.

[Ninjalada]

I've been levelling up a Pincer I got in the bug catching contest and a Misdreavus I got in the safari zone, I love those guys.

[BB2K]

I finally have my Tyranitar. He's pretty awesome, but now the rest of my party are severely underleveled.

[Queenie]

Oh god the grinding has begun.

Why didn't I do what I did the first time and just use my cyndaquil to shit all over everyone else's pokemon and then use the elite 4 to level other pokemon up later with an exp. share?

I DO suppose it is more fun this way though. Managed to put in about an hour, I've got a cyndaquil sitting at level 13 while I'm levelling up a sentret (Because I'm pretty sure they learn rollout, I hope i'm not thinking of zigzagoon) and a Spearow+Pidgey. Because I like both of their evolved forms.

**** moving to japan I'm buying a gameshark and cheating all over the wazoo and getting myself the legendaries. To get the eon ticket etc.

[JubeiSaotome]

The time taken between badge 2 & 3 is so short, not enough trainer battles to pace me, so now I'm grinding.

[FrozenSoul80]

Coming as someone who hasn't played it in so long, I would have liked it if some of the "new" pokemon (ie anything since original gold/silver) had been added to old areas. I haven't seen any pokemon yet that I didn't back in the day.
.

They will once you beat the Elite Four. Seeing Generation 3 Pokemon kinda ruined the nostalgia for me :(

[Ninjalada]

My Furret is like my swiss army knife of pokemon, I've taught it Cut, Strength, Headbutt and Surf.

Just imagine seeing some guy surfing on a giant ferrett.

[Spazzallo]

Haha nice. My HM whore is my level 9 Sandshrew. Strength, Cut, Rock Smash and Rock Climb :).

[FrozenSoul80]

My Furret is like my swiss army knife of pokemon, I've taught it Cut, Strength, Headbutt and Surf.

Just imagine seeing some guy surfing on a giant ferrett.

I did that with Krabby, only replace headbutt with rock smash. That's something I've never liked about the Pokemon games - the need for HM mules.

[Mr Pie]

i just give every pokemon a couple of HM's and tell em to have sex while i watch.

[FrozenSoul80]

Anyone want to catch a Flying or Surfing Pikachu? Well select Mystery Gift and download the Yellow Forest route for your PokeWalker from the Nintendo WiFi Connection.

More information here (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Yellow_Forest).

[Ninjalada]

I did that with Krabby, only replace headbutt with rock smash. That's something I've never liked about the Pokemon games - the need for HM mules.

Yeah, I hate the HM moves. That's one aspect of the games that I would love to change.

I just caught a Phanpy, he's so cute!

[Ninjalada]

OMFG I just had a wild level 20 Girafagig kill my level 21 Phanpy, level 23 Swinub and level 29 Pincer with a combination of OHK Psybeams and constantly flinching Stomps.

[FrozenSoul80]

My level 16 Magnemite ended up killing a level 45 Lugia with flash, supersonic, sonic boom and thundershock.

[Mr Pie]

You didnt catch it?

[Queenie]

Anyone want to catch a Flying or Surfing Pikachu? Well select Mystery Gift and download the Yellow Forest route for your PokeWalker from the Nintendo WiFi Connection.

More information here (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Yellow_Forest).

kinda sucks that the chance to get that specific pikachu is like 2.5% though (from serebii.net)

[scoz]

They will once you beat the Elite Four. Seeing Generation 3 Pokemon kinda ruined the nostalgia for me :(
Ahh, that's good I reckon. It's weird how fresh the game is in my mind even though I finished it around a decade ago. I find I'm enjoying the "new" stuff much more, like wifi battles, pokeathalon etc.

In fact, I find myself having the same experiences as I did the first time. In particular, these moments have stood out for me as vivid flashbacks :D

Looking in a guide to find where my favourite Pokemon, Smeargle is, searching for hours for the patch of grass in the ruins of alph just to find you need to go through Union cave, then catching Smeargle and realizing how hard to train he actually is
Swearing at Clair for not giving up the badge after destroying her
Realizing how long it's going to take to get Smeargle to Ho-oh and teach it Sacred Fire
Not reading the fine print on HMs and tainting my Feraligatr with cut
"No, I don't WANT Togepi. Keep your goddamn egg"
Wanting Umbreon. Getting Espeon

[Jickle]

About 16 hours in, and about to take on the final gym leader of Johto. My current team:

Stantler Lv. 31
Ampharos Lv. 35
Feraligatr Lv. 35
Hypno Lv. 34
(Red) Gyrados Lv. 33 (he's not as strong as I remember him being in the original)
Farfetch'd Lv. 28 (I might teach Gyrados Fly and give him the chop)

[Queenie]

The pokewalker seems really cool. Didnt' know you could get a kangaskhan off the bat, or a doduo, now i need to get those two and a nidoran.

But this could be good for me, I seem to be attempting to catch 'em all even though I've only played for 3 hours in-game. I have very little money.

God I love The fire starter series (atm he's a lv. 15 quilava)

with me right now:

All at lvl 13:

Pidgey
Spearow
Geodude
Sentret

Carrying the egg with me.

[Nic Xtreme]

About 16 hours in, and about to take on the final gym leader of Johto. My current team:

Stantler Lv. 31
Ampharos Lv. 35
Feraligatr Lv. 35
Hypno Lv. 34
(Red) Gyrados Lv. 33 (he's not as strong as I remember him being in the original)
Farfetch'd Lv. 28 (I might teach Gyrados Fly and give him the chop)

Gyarados will be comparatively weak possibly for two reasons! (1) because you've only just caught him his stat modifiers (EVs) gained from fighting Pokemon won't be as high as your other pokes, and (2) are you using him with special attacks? Swap him over to physical attacks nowwwww!

[FrozenSoul80]

You didnt catch it?

Of course I did! Killing a Legendary is nothing turning the power off and on again won't fix.

kinda sucks that the chance to get that specific pikachu is like 2.5% though (from serebii.net)

Still totally worth it. I remember wowing my friends with my Surfing Pikachu back in the day. It took me weeks to complete Pokemon Stadium in the right way to get it.

[Mr Pie]

Please explain what a surfing Pikachu is?

[FrozenSoul80]

Please explain what a surfing Pikachu is?

A Pikachu that knows surf. It's excellent for ****ing up those pesky ground types.

Back in the Pokemon Stadium days the battle animation had Pikachu jumping on a surfboard. There also used to be a surfing mini-game in Yellow version.

[Mr Pie]

God I'm so booting up my copy of Pokemon yellow and trying to get one.
Then I'm try out the minigame.

[FrozenSoul80]

You will also need a copy of the original Pokemon Stadium and a transfer pak. You have to do one of the hard cup battles in a special way, without continues.

[Ninjalada]

My main guys:

Ampharos lvl 33
Growlithe lvl 34
Pinsir lvl 29
Misdreavus lvl 32
Togetic lvl 31
Feraligatr lvl 36

I'm up to Clair but I don't have any Ice types for her Dragonairs so I caught a Swinub which I'm gonna try to evolve into Piloswine. The Gyardos and Kingdra I can handle with my Ampharos.

[Spazzallo]

**** me if you cannot 1 shot or 2 shot Koga's Muk (second time around) you may as well reboot the game. Uses minimize, swagger (raises your attack considerably and makes you confused), screech (so when you hit yourself from confusion you're now doing a ****tone of damage to yourself.. my Alakazam lost over 2/3 of his health) and toxic... such bullshit >_<.

[FrozenSoul80]

My main guys:

Ampharos lvl 33
Growlithe lvl 34
Pinsir lvl 29
Misdreavus lvl 32
Togetic lvl 31
Feraligatr lvl 36

I'm up to Clair but I don't have any Ice types for her Dragonairs so I caught a Swinub which I'm gonna try to evolve into Piloswine. The Gyardos and Kingdra I can handle with my Ampharos.

Gyarados learns Ice Fang at level 30-something, get one. Kill Kingdra with Dragon Rage while you are at it.

[Ninjalada]

Gyarados learns Ice Fang at level 30-something, get one. Kill Kingdra with Dragon Rage while you are at it.

I might have to do that since Swinub is so completely shite.

[FX-GTZ]

As i was catching a Jynx in Ice Path, i ended up running into a shiny Swinub. Im thinking about making it one of my main party pokemon. i dont have a 6th main so it wouldnt matter much either way.

[TimmyJ]

Spent about 3 hours last night trying to catch a Misdreavus with a decent nature. Eventually got one, now i just have to find that dusk stone in cerulean cave so i can evolve it into Mismagius.
Having to teach Flash and Rock Smash sucks though...

[Mr Pie]

You will also need a copy of the original Pokemon Stadium and a transfer pak. You have to do one of the hard cup battles in a special way, without continues.

Damn im pretty sure i sold my Pokemon stadium with the console... sucks for me.

[JimmyKane]

I can't believe I still have mine.

http://www.uyac.com.au/forum/images/smilies/bizarro123.gif

[Ninjalada]

Spent about 3 hours last night trying to catch a Misdreavus with a decent nature.

Mine has a modest nature - special attack boost, yay!

[Queenie]

If anyone gets a surfing pikachu pics pls. I'd like to see whether he is on a surfboard or not.

In The new games, that is.

[Nic Xtreme]

If anyone gets a surfing pikachu pics pls. I'd like to see whether he is on a surfboard or not.

In The new games, that is.

He doesn't :(

[dende d. guardian]

there was a surfing pikachu released for D/P/Pla and on pokemon battle revolution he had a surfboard.

it was an american or japanese event though which is a shame

[FrozenSoul80]

I ****ing hate event Pokemon. There is no legal way for us to obtain Mew, we have to cheat.

[BB2K]

It's much better with the latest generation, as the DS can just connect to the WiFi Connection to recieve them.

[FrozenSoul80]

Except for that time that they had an event Pokemon at Target.

[Nic Xtreme]

We've totally had awesome and easily-accessible Manaphy, Darkrai and Arceus events here (@ EBs, Targets and JBs)! Not to mention Wi-Fi ones!

They just need to freaking give me a Mew and a Celebi and I'll be happy.

[FrozenSoul80]

That's wonderful, not everyone has those shops. I still hate event Pokemon.

[FF Freak]

They just need to freaking give me a Mew and a Celebi and I'll be happy.

Apparently there should be a Celebi event at some stage because there is an event in the game that requires it according to Serebii.

I Sadly missed the Arceus and Darkrai events when they were on.

[Ninjalada]

I just gave Clare a whoopin'. Her Kingdra was kind of tough but a combination of Charge and Discharge from my Ampharos brought it down.

[Queenie]

Nintendo could have made shit a whole lot easier, Idk, by letting there be compatibility between gens 2 and 3 (which meant we could have pkmn. yellow glitch mew, BUT NO....

****ers.

Seriously, all the event shit is in JAPAN. It's like nintendo are giving a constant, big F.U to anyone not living there for pokemon. Sure america has SOME, but nowhere near as much as japan.

[Blob]

Nintendo could have made shit a whole lot easier, Idk, by letting there be compatibility between gens 2 and 3 (which meant we could have pkmn. yellow glitch mew, BUT NO....


Changes to the EV system between 2 and 3 made this pretty much impossible unfortunately.

Also you can legally get a Mew if you have pokemon ranch.

[Jickle]

Just caught Ho-Oh. Took me about eight Ultra Balls. Woo! This should certainly make the Elite 4 much easier.

Also, the Kimono girls showed that my team is ridiculously vulnerable to electric types. I beat the fourth girl's Jolteon by continually healing Ampharos until the thing had used all its offensive moves, then switched to Feraligatr to finish the job. Umbreon and Espeon gave me some trouble too - I beat Espeon by sending out Hypno and using Hyper Potions every second turn, in between headbutts.

[Queenie]

seriously, headbutt ftw.
Grinding is slow, as it were.

I do like the idea of my geodude in there, it's nice because it can lay a beatdown on so many different types, particularly at this level.

in goldenrod, I'm going to evolve my pokemon and choose eventually which flyer to use (of fearow/pidgeotto)

Sentret is coming along but it's still quite weak. Headbutt has made him a lot better though.

My togepi is gonna be bitchin after it evolves.

[Rambo]

So is Togetic really a useful pokemon?

Or should I just stay with Kadabra?

[dende d. guardian]

ever since i started playing diamond and pearl, alakazam has always been really awesome. i particularly like disable and recover as they're just really convenient moves

[Jickle]

Just beat the Elite 4. Used a hell of a lot of Hyper Potions and Revives along the way. Ho-oh tore through most of them - without him I would have needed to grind for a few more hours.

[BB2K]

in goldenrod, I'm going to evolve my pokemon and choose eventually which flyer to use (of fearow/pidgeotto)

My togepi is gonna be bitchin after it evolves.

I think you should just keep Togetic as your flyer. It worked fine for me.

[JubeiSaotome]

Just traded across my Pearl team. Dunsparce, Mamoswine, Ninetails, Yanmega, Camerupt and Probopass <3

[Queenie]

So is Togetic really a useful pokemon?

Or should I just stay with Kadabra?

well its final form, togekiss, apparently has some awesome stat modifiers or something like that. It can get good stats.

And it learns erm, that fighting ball move thing, erm, Aura Sphere.

I'm planning, late game, for it to be a big-hitter, Along with my Typhlosion.

But I'm only at the sudowoodo bit, speaking of which


Got a call from one of the randoms that adds you, this chick said that if you take a sudowoodo to route 36 or one of them that something weird will happen.

by my "Flyer" I mean my transport :)

Whitney went down quite easily, due to my female Geodude sporting an epic Rock Punch. FARKAYU Attract! and other related moves.

Daycare gave me a levelled up bellsprout and now I have something for that rival's croconaw.

Also, the bellsprout at lvl 20 was kinda awesome for the sudowoodo- considering it had stun spore, poison spore (move thingy), and sleep powder.

made it far easier to catch.



has anyone else tried the pokeathlon? I thought I'd have a go, it's pretty awesome as a distraction from the main game.

Quilava+Furret make a pretty awesome team for most things i've had so far. Quilava is just bitching for me, I love that thing, and furret, well, he's a machine. Current record on the relay thing is 15.5 laps, after 4 tries.

I wonder how many could be racked up with 3 furrets?

[Spazzallo]

has anyone else tried the pokeathlon? I thought I'd have a go, it's pretty awesome as a distraction from the main game.

Quilava+Furret make a pretty awesome team for most things i've had so far. Quilava is just bitching for me, I love that thing, and furret, well, he's a machine. Current record on the relay thing is 15.5 laps, after 4 tries.


Love the Pokeathlon. Great distraction from the main game and quite fun :D. I play it while im waiting for an egg from the daycare to arrive.

[Queenie]

There's a couple still I haven't tried, such as the snowball throwing game, I'm gonna give that a shot next. Not egg'ing daycare stuff till I finish off Ash though.

[Ninjalada]

I have won all of the ribbons for the Pokeathlon but as far as I can tell, you don't get anything for it except for the points that you can exchange for prizes.

And **** the Kimono Girls' Volteon, I thought that I might be able to level up my Donphan to kill it but I just realised that it doesn't know any ground moves.

[JimmyKane]

Pokemon battles at double speed is intense.

It's like

WHOAH

****

****

[Spazzallo]

Finally beat the Elite 4 Round 2... Got past the Dark Pokemon woman and then went up against Lance fairly confident... until he sends out his first Pokemon which is level 72 O_O. Managed to somehow kill his first 3 Pokemon and then tanked his Charizard with my Mewtwo's amnesia whilst I revived everyone else in my party and healed them up again. A very intense and expensive battle.

[Queenie]

I have won all of the ribbons for the Pokeathlon but as far as I can tell, you don't get anything for it except for the points that you can exchange for prizes.

And **** the Kimono Girls' Volteon, I thought that I might be able to level up my Donphan to kill it but I just realised that it doesn't know any ground moves.

Geodude has become my main man now, or rather, graveler has. Magnitude is awesome, but that fact is helped by the fact that I consistently hit Mag 8, 9 or 10.

Snubbull is really hard to find.

[Ninjalada]

My Donphan is crap, it was to supposed to learn Magnitude, Thunder Fang, Fire Fang, Horn Attack, Growl and Defence Curl when it evolved from Phanpy but didn't for some reason.

[Rambo]

I thought if you kept a pokemon unevolved it learns moves faster?

[Ninjalada]

I thought if you kept a pokemon unevolved it learns moves faster?

That's true but Phanpy does not learn those moves anyway, well at least according to Bulbapedia.

[Queenie]

I'm screwed anyway, I just hope the daycare people taught my spearow aerial ace.

But how is a FEAROW supposed to learn aerial ace at level 17 when it can only evolve into Fearow at level 20?

[JubeiSaotome]

So Mt Silver, is this the end or do I do Elite 4 again?

[ireadtabloids]

My Furret is like my swiss army knife of pokemon, I've taught it Cut, Strength, Headbutt and Surf.

Just imagine seeing some guy surfing on a giant ferrett.

Lol, that is truly awesome.

Bad luck mate, I'd forgotten how scary those girafarigs could be. I think I levelled up and went on a killing spree at one point. In-game obviously.
Sure I didn't have a permit for culling, but hey they were the ones attacking me! Oh no, it's coming right for us!

[Queenie]

This just in: Girafarig now extinct.

[Nic Xtreme]

My Donphan is crap, it was to supposed to learn Magnitude, Thunder Fang, Fire Fang, Horn Attack, Growl and Defence Curl when it evolved from Phanpy but didn't for some reason.

Those moves are Heart Scale moves - find some Heart Scales and Donphan will be able to learn them. I'm assuming they move remembering dude is the same as the deleting one? I think that's what the sign outside said...

When the Pokedex (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/232.shtml) entry for a Pokemon lists either (a) a lower level or (b) a dash (-) for a move, it means it needs a Heart Scale to learn it. The moves they learn "when they evolve" would be the ones not listed in Phanpy's entry, but listed in Donphan's entry on the level it evolves (in this case, it is Fury Attack).

[Jickle]

I just transfered a few of my Pokemon from Ruby into Gold. Very much regretting transfering my Rayquaza/Entei into that Gamecube Pokemon game all those years back. :(

[AranchineD]

You know how you have the most fun with Pokemon?


If you don't gay it up by planning your pokemon 90 levels in advance. GO WITH THE SLOW YOU STUPID PEOPLE

[Ninjalada]

You know how you have the most fun with Pokemon?


I want to be a Pokemon Master, not a Pokemon......fun..guy....:cool:




I just fought ***face on Victory Road, it was so satisfying owning his Megaynium with my Growlithe's Flamethrower.

[AranchineD]

Fine, be a soulless 'Master'.

You know that Ash guy? The guy they make out to be what every Pokemon trainer should be? The coolest guy on the planet? Yeah, he has fun. He isn't concerned about his pokemon having the bigger numbers, he's in it for the experience, the friendship, and the joy. And you know what? He ends up beating everyone who fights him, even if he loses at first he comes back to win later.

So shove your Pokemon Master title up your ass. Because I'm still better than you.

[BB2K]

But he's never even been League champ.

[AranchineD]

Gary was focused entirely on being a Pokemon Master through any means necessary

Did he become League champ? No. BUT ASH STILL GOT FURTHER THAN HIM

[BB2K]

I'm only up to episode twenty five you ****ing ******. ****.

[Ninjalada]

I could totally kick Ash's arse, in fact I will when I meet him atop Mt Silver.

Anyways....

3Di1GmRcAnY

*edit* ****ing gay arse youtube shit.

[BB2K]

Seriously, he's had that Pikachu with him through five regions, one of them existing only in the anime, it's got to be lvl 100 by now.

[JimmyKane]

Then why hasn't it evolved yet?
shittroll
Also now when you walk into a Pokemon centre with a poisoned Pokemon it loses 2HP. I thought it was 1 in the old games.

This changes everything.

[scoz]

Ugh, now at the grind stage between the last of the kanto badges and red. Got lv 46 Aron and lv 47 Luxio from the safari zone ('bout time I got some new pokemon) but I had to look up a guide to figure out how to do it. I fail to see who would have the patience to arbitrarily place trees and shit in the safari zone. So that's four of my final six planned out (Feraligatr, Espeon, Luxray and Aggron). Had to give up on Smeargle, dragged him to fricken' lv 50 before realizing that he had stats of 50 except for speed which was 100. Comparatively, my other pokemon were in the hundreds by then. I guess I'd have to breed it out :P

Gotta hit up the GTS to get me a Numel. Unless anyone here has one they want to part with for something...?

[Queenie]

I got owned by chuck the first time.

I then proceeded to grind my pidgeotto into a pidgeot. Said bird owned face.

Graveler and Quilava beat the shit out of jasmine.

Red gyarados was lucky easy, as my mareep put it down to 1hp ish and paralyzed with one attack !

[JubeiSaotome]

We should get a pokemon tournament going.

[Queenie]

indeed. Do you know if the wifi spots around the uni (and at maccas near train station) Support ninty WFC?

[JubeiSaotome]

The real question is: what WiFi security do they use? I think McDonalds supports DS.

[Mr Pie]

Then why hasn't it evolved yet?


You did not just ask that... YOU DID NOT JUST ASK THAT!
ARHGHHHHHHHH!!!!

[Spazzallo]

You did not just ask that... YOU DID NOT JUST ASK THAT!
ARHGHHHHHHHH!!!!

Who could forget that emotional episode when Ash tries to evolve Pikachu for the sake of getting a badge and that ungrateful rat says no :(.

[JubeiSaotome]

So, I have all 16 badges. I've tried migrating with my copy of LeafGreen. Do I need to finish LeafGreen before this is possible? Or is the fact that my LeafGreen is US and my SoulSilver is Australian the main issue here?

[FF Freak]

Based on my knowledge of transferring my sis' ruby pokes to my Diamond copy I did it without a finished copy of ruby but I'm not sure about trading to HG/SS.

[dinopoke]

You did not just ask that... YOU DID NOT JUST ASK THAT!
ARHGHHHHHHHH!!!!

Highlight to read.

[JubeiSaotome]

Based on my knowledge of transferring my sis' ruby pokes to my Diamond copy I did it without a finished copy of ruby but I'm not sure about trading to HG/SS.

Just answered my own question, you have to have beaten Red on Mt. Silver before the option opens.

[BB2K]

Just answered my own question, you have to have beaten Red on Mt. Silver before the option opens.

No you don't, you can do it as soon as you enter Pal Park in Fuchsia city. For me, at least.

[FrozenSoul80]

Didn't the creepy old guy out the front of Celadon Gym once say "I love this gym, it's full of beautiful women"?

[Queenie]

I remember seeing this in yellow, haven't made it that far as yet in SS

[BB2K]

Didn't the creepy old guy out the front of Celadon Gym once say "I love this gym, it's full of beautiful women"?

He did in Red and FireRed, I didn't play the original Silver or Gold so I'm not sure about those two. It kinda made me feel sad that he says something else here, though >_>

[JubeiSaotome]

No you don't, you can do it as soon as you enter Pal Park in Fuchsia city. For me, at least.

Wouldnt appear on my start menu until I passed Mt. Silver. :S

[Blob]

So, I have all 16 badges. I've tried migrating with my copy of LeafGreen. Do I need to finish LeafGreen before this is possible? Or is the fact that my LeafGreen is US and my SoulSilver is Australian the main issue here?

Not 100% sure but my US copy of leaf green refused to connect to the gamecube games so I assume it may be similar for the DS ones. Never actually tried though as the gamecube erased my LG file so I just traded pokes over to Sapphire then onto the DS.

[JubeiSaotome]

As mentioned above, it worked on my Australian copy of Soul Silver.

[JimmyKane]

Highlight to read.
This.

[Ninjalada]

I just beat the Elite Four on my first try with my party of:

Feraligatr
Growlithe
Misdreavus
Pinsir
Donphan
Ampharos

My Donphan absolutely raped all 3 of Lance's Dragonites in a row with Rollout. :)

[Queenie]

Hmm, I'm contemplating getting rollout on one of my poke's now.

Currently my team is sporadically between the 30's and 40's.
I remembered that clair has a lvl 41 Kingdra, so I thought I'd level ampharos up massively to beat it.

Then i realised there is no type advantage due to the damned dragon.

I need an ice poke :)

Steel is also looking better and better for these reasons. In fact, I'd really love an Empoleon right about now.

but anyway, the ampharos is still a major kick-ass for me, as I think i've lucked out on the IV's for him- his special attack is through the roof, level 40 and it's already 124!

Typhlosion is now 38, he did some sidelining to let amphy level up, and a lot of the rest of my team probably feels a little left out too- Graveler and Furret are sitting at 32, whereas pidgeot is at 36. After I transfer togepi back in (and hopefully level her up after the crapload of steps I took) I should have a nice psychic to go with.

[Mr Pie]

Teach one of your pokemon Dragon Claw, awesome attack.

[ireadtabloids]

This just in: Girafarig now extinct.

It will not be missed

[ireadtabloids]

I want to be a Pokemon Master, not a Pokemon......fun..guy....:cool:




I just fought ***face on Victory Road, it was so satisfying owning his Megaynium with my Growlithe's Flamethrower.

Megaynium? These generation 5 pokemon are not being well thought through.

Forgot how much fun those electric sheep were. My favs were Blissey, Tyranitar and Amphoros :D Blissey's Special stats are insane!

[FrozenSoul80]

Megaynium? These generation 5 pokemon are not being well thought through.

Generation 5? We are only sitting on Generation 4 and Meganium was a Generation 2 Pokemon.

After I transfer togepi back in (and hopefully level her up after the crapload of steps I took) I should have a nice psychic to go with.

I really hope you weren't trying to level Togepi up with the Pokewalker >_>

[Queenie]

Oh no, I was doing it for the happiness shit. The first time around I left it till ages to level togepi up, that thing was level 55 before it evolved (mostly because it was done using an exp. share)

Also, If there's a pokemon tourney, I wonder, what can people do? Is there a time limit, ie, 1 hr?

What could you get done?

When finish all battle- what would the best team be?

In terms of covering weaknesses I'd say picking the chikorita would be good because nothing else covers water/ground decently so early in the game.

[JubeiSaotome]

There's only 2 Gen V pokemon:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Zorua_(Pok%C3%A9mon)
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Zoroark_(Pok%C3%A9mon)

The Gen V Pokemon game should be out by the end of this year in Japan.

[FrozenSoul80]

I just hope the Generation 5 Pokemon aren't as shit as the Generation 3 ones.

[Queenie]

Do we REALLY NEED MORE pokemon?

I think that's a good question.

What I would do:

Pokemon MMO

or

Pokemon, but in the world in 3d, as if you could put yourself in the anime. Really put some shit out there to discover.

[AranchineD]

I just hope the Generation 5 Pokemon aren't as shit as the Generation 3 ones.

Everything after Gen 2 sucks dick. And half of Gen 2 is pretty bad as well.

[Lex]

To be fair, there were lots of lame gen 1 pokemon.

[FrozenSoul80]

Everything after Gen 2 sucks dick. And half of Gen 2 is pretty bad as well.

There are actually some really good Gen 4 Pokemon, but I'm just assuming that was a fluke. What they really need to stop doing is releasing so many throw-away Pokemon to increase the numbers. Ideally they should be made up of Pokemon everyone wants to use, and their pre-evolved forms.

[Queenie]

examples of awesome shit (haven't played Diamond/Pearl):

The Cyndaquil line.
The Torchick line.
Piplup line.
Tyranitar line
HSOWA

But seriously can you think of much from Ruby/Sapphire? I can't.

The version mascots for the games+ dogs. All other legendaries post II can suck a dick, considering you need hacks or live in japan to get them.

[BB2K]

I thought there was some brilliant Pokemon in Gen III.
The Metagross line, the Flygon line, the Salamence line, the Gardevoir line, the Aggron line, and the starter lines were all pretty awesome.

[JubeiSaotome]

http://i40.tinypic.com/9pqpw1.png

http://i40.tinypic.com/307rt35.jpg

[FrozenSoul80]

I thought there was some brilliant Pokemon in Gen III.
The Metagross line, the Flygon line, the Salamence line, the Gardevoir line, the Aggron line, and the starter lines were all pretty awesome.

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/1/1d/370Luvdisc.png/100px-370Luvdisc.png

Behold, everything that is wrong with Generation 3. This little ****er nearly killed Pokemon for me.

[AranchineD]

http://i40.tinypic.com/9pqpw1.png


Wait, are you saying Facemon is a GOOD one?

[Queenie]

I think that's just a nosepass with a novelty moustache.

[JubeiSaotome]

Wait, are you saying Facemon is a GOOD one?

Of course, he's in my team.

[BB2K]

I think that's just a nosepass with a novelty moustache.

And a new hat!

[FrozenSoul80]

He needs round, thick-rimmed glasses.

[scoz]

To be honest, I like some of the new lines better than some of the original 150. If you pretty much look up any pokemon that is in a chain of three you'll see a well thought out design. I really don't like any of the original starters (raises flame shield).

Hope a tournament materializes. I dunno how much more grinding I can take. I'm currently repeating the Elite Four rematch over and over because Lance mark 2 is the only thing I can find apart from Red with over level 65. Suggestions?

I've finalized my final 6. Ended up using pokemon that were new to me because I didn't really want to repeat my original silver playthrough. So,
Feraligatr, lv 70
Espeon lv 57
Luxray lv 57
Aggron lv 57
Absol lv 47
Camerupt lv 47

I only just got the last two. Love Camerupt, gave him sunny day and solar beam just in case someone tries to pull some funny water business. Absol is gone if I can breed a better Smeargle.

[Queenie]

so, umerah smeargle, does he have massive special attack or do people like being able to teach him any move THAT awesome?

[Ninjalada]

I can't decide between Flamethrower and Heat Wave for my Growlithe.

Flamethower - special
power: 95
accuracy: 100

Heat Wave - special
power: 100
accuracy: 90
*hits both foes in a doubles battle

I'm leaning towards Flamthrower but I like how Heat Wave can hit 2 Pokemon at the same time. Decisions, decisions!

[BB2K]

I can't decide between Flamethrower and Heat Wave for my Growlithe.

Flamethower - special
power: 95
accuracy: 100

Heat Wave - special
power: 100
accuracy: 90
*hits both foes in a doubles battle

I'm leaning towards Flamthrower but I like how Heat Wave can hit 2 Pokemon at the same time. Decisions, decisions!

How much PP do they each have? It's a tough choice.

[AranchineD]

Keep in mind that for a human player, an accuracy of '90' actually means an accuracy of 50.

[FrozenSoul80]

Flamethrower. You don't want shit missing, that costs you valuable health.

[Queenie]

Yeah I find that the percentages in these games is vastly different from others.

Compare it with world of warcraft, if you've played.

approximately 30% of the time I would dodge, about my dodge %.

Pokemon, if i get hit with 1 sand attack, a move that should then theoretically go from 100% accuracy to, say, i'm going to say 80%, misses 3x in a row, and this happens often.

[Spazzallo]

Flamethrower. Easily. Barely any double battles and as mentioned 90% accuracy aint really 90% accuracy ><.

Is there options for online battles to have levels scaled back to 50 like in the tournements in the game? I really hope so, it would definitely help setting up a hyper tournement.

My Houndoom learnt Nasty Plot, which raises his Special Attack by 2 stages. Pretty much unstoppable now, unless another Pokemon is faster then him and can finish him in 2 shots :).

[Ninjalada]

Flamethrower. You don't want shit missing, that costs you valuable health.

Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking. Even if the accuracy for Heat Wave was actually 90, that's still too much of a chance of missing.

[FF Freak]

completed the second of the safari zone challenges today...find it funny that it's "congratulations, you're now the safari zone owner but you still have to pay admission."

[FrozenSoul80]

Just beat the Elite Four the second time around, took me two hours with mostly level 50 Pokemon.

Gyarados with Ice Fang is easily the best thing ever. You should all have one.

[scoz]

so, umerah smeargle, does he have massive special attack or do people like being able to teach him any move THAT awesome?

He's got no good stats apart from speed... that's the problem :P

[Clockw0rk]

What do people have against Gen.3? It had a large world that didn't need padding with older areas like G/S did; it introduced Natures, Abilities, Weather Effects and Doubles Battles, it overhauled the PC/Boxes system and made it useable, and added the largest number of Pokemon since Generation 1. It updated the Berries, added Pokeblocks and Pokemon contests, and had that secret hideout feature which was kinda useless but still entertaining.
Oh, and the Battle Tower was a new addition wasn't it?

Admittedly not all of the Pokemon were original or interesting but a large portion of them were, moreso than in other games. The starters were all considerably better than in Gen. IV in my opinion, though they've seemed to get worse with each generation.

Picking up Heart Gold next payday, I would've gone for Silver but my friend got in before me and she's the main person I'll be trading/battling :(

[dende d. guardian]

i freaking hate it when your friends expect you to get the version of pokemon you don't neccessarily want. it's like "whatever, i like silver as much as you why do i have to play gold?" hence i usually get both versions >.>

[Clockw0rk]

Just checked the list of version exclusive pokemon on Bulbapedia, Gold has Growlithe/Arcanine and Phanpy/Donphan. Sold :D

[JubeiSaotome]

i freaking hate it when your friends expect you to get the version of pokemon you don't neccessarily want. it's like "whatever, i like silver as much as you why do i have to play gold?" hence i usually get both versions >.>

Why don't you just let them know that more than 2 people in the world play pokemon? GTS is there for a reason.

[FrozenSoul80]

What do people have against Gen.3? It had a large world that didn't need padding with older areas like G/S did; it introduced Natures, Abilities, Weather Effects and Doubles Battles, it overhauled the PC/Boxes system and made it useable, and added the largest number of Pokemon since Generation 1. It updated the Berries, added Pokeblocks and Pokemon contests, and had that secret hideout feature which was kinda useless but still entertaining.
Oh, and the Battle Tower was a new addition wasn't it?

Those were all excellent additions, however it was ruined by the sheer number of boring and uninspired Pokemon.

Also, most of the good Pokemon weren't even in Ruby or Sapphire (I think there was only 200 Pokemon in the game, total) so I couldn't even ignore them.

[Queenie]

I didn't like the addition of some of the things - the whole pokeblock thing was just a mind**** to me, I liked contests but you needed them to be successful. Berries were nice, natures and shit like that I found confusing. Secret hideout also bad. a million more legendary pokemon than were in the previous games was bad.

That said, I really, REALLY loved the idea of Dive and the storyline.

additionally, event shit.

If nintendo could make the next pokemon game only have ONE, ONE

ONE

event pokemon, I would be happy. It's more regionism from those bastards.

[FrozenSoul80]

The GB Sounds is probably the best item in a game ever.

[JubeiSaotome]

I want an option for rby sounds

[scoz]

Just beat red. Didn't end up doing any more grinding, so I took a Feraligatr lv 72, Luxray, Espeon and Aggron lv 57, Camerupt lv 53 and Nidoking lv 40 (HM mule). So proud when my Camerupt OHK'd Red's 88 Pikachu with Earthquake. 35 level difference? Nothing!

Just got my Kanto starter and Hoenn Starter, and I'm kinda at a loss as to what to do now haha...

[Queenie]

Catch 'em All. 'twas what I did first time.

Although i do plan to play D/P/Pt at some point.

[FrozenSoul80]

I find it very concerning that these old men, particularly bikers, are asking for a 10 year olds phonenumber. The Pokemon world is a scary place.

[Ninjalada]

Just checked the list of version exclusive pokemon on Bulbapedia, Gold has Growlithe/Arcanine and Phanpy/Donphan. Sold :D

I have a lvl 47 Growlithe and 47 Donphan, oh how I love them.

I reallly want a Dusk Stone and a Fire Stone so I have been trying to win one in the bug catching contest. I've tried it twice, won twice and both times got a useless Sun Stone. ****!

[TSplodey]

Anyone else think the Box system in this is a (somewhat large) step back from DPPt and even the Advance Generation? Not having the 'smart' cursor option for Move Pokemon is highly irritating, and the statistics UI is not very clear in my opinion.

Updated Johto region is a blast however.

[Spazzallo]

I have a lvl 47 Growlithe and 47 Donphan, oh how I love them.

I reallly want a Dusk Stone and a Fire Stone so I have been trying to win one in the bug catching contest. I've tried it twice, won twice and both times got a useless Sun Stone. ****!

Do the Pokethlon! 2500 points for fire stone and 3000 for dusk stone. Speed games are very easy to score 500+ points in each time.

[Ninjalada]

Do the Pokethlon! 2500 points for fire stone and 3000 for dusk stone. Speed games are very easy to score 500+ points in each time.

Yeah I guess but at the moment I'm all Pokethalon'd out after winning every event.

I just won the bug catching contest again, Moon Stone this time. :(

[Queenie]

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=960100&topic=54018652

epic thread

checking out gamefaqs, trying to look for maps of caves. A thread primarily all about frustration and pokeballs and pokemon not going into them.

I caught me a lugia! yay! It's, unfortunately, replacing my pidgeot.

The worst thing about these games is that you don't want to choose between two pokemon, not because they're equally good, but because they're both so COOL.

[Jickle]

I transfered Suicine and Raikou over from my copy of Ruby (not to mention the Regi series and Latios). Still kicking myself over sending Rayquaza/Entei over to Colosseum on the Gamecube, but how was I to know that many years later the decision would come back to haunt me?

I have no idea where my copy of Diamond is. I never finished it anyway.

[FX-GTZ]

I think i made a mistake saving after i beat the 3rd elite member, Bruno. Luckily i bought a ton of max ethers, revives, full heals, full restores and hyper potions. How many is left after the 4th elite member? Im guessing your rival, followed by your friend?

[dende d. guardian]

nah after the 4th elite four dude it's just lance

[scoz]

I think i made a mistake saving after i beat the 3rd elite member, Bruno. Luckily i bought a ton of max ethers, revives, full heals, full restores and hyper potions. How many is left after the 4th elite member? Im guessing your rival, followed by your friend?

If you lose you go back to the pokecenter with all the exp you gained. Even if you aren't ready to beat the elite 4 it's still a great, albeit expensive, grind.

[JimmyKane]

Or you could just beat it without dying over and over...

[FX-GTZ]

Thats what i intend on doing, too bad theres no way to back out now. So its all a bit of hit and miss battling i suppose.

[Barefooted Hobo]

Can't you give your money to your mom to "save"? Therefore not loosing any money at the elite four when you loose?

[BB2K]

If you defeat at least one of the Elite 4 you're pretty much guaranteed to make a profit, so you shouldn't really worry about losing.

[Spazzallo]

Especially with the amulet coin :).

God I hate the commercial for this game.

[BB2K]

Not my Chikorita!

[Mr Pie]

I find it very concerning that these old men, particularly bikers, are asking for a 10 year olds phonenumber. The Pokemon world is a scary place.

Perhaps the BEST comment ever made on the Hyper Forums.

[Ali G]

So Pokemon Black and White have been announced:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/pokemon-black-and-white-announced

[Mr Pie]

Oh no... Nintendo... Not again...

[Queenie]

****ing hell nintendo, I haven't even beaten the elite four in SS or gotten the sinnoh games and you do THIS?

[FX-GTZ]

I like how nintendo try to make it sound all mysterious and basic. Maybe its a game based on Orange Islands from the pokemon series? Or have they done that already?

[JubeiSaotome]

It wont be out until the end of the year IN JAPAN, jesus, guys.

[FrozenSoul80]

****ing hell nintendo, I haven't even beaten the elite four in SS or gotten the sinnoh games and you do THIS?

If only you'd never played SS, then this would never have happened.

[Clockw0rk]

The official website (via Joystiq) promises that in Pokemon Black and White "every aspect [of the IP] will be reborn innovatively". We'll know more on 15th April, apparently.
New area, new Pokemon, a couple of new features, otherwise it's the same game we've been playing since 1998.
I would love to be proven wrong.

[tau]

hell yeah. Here's hoping for a reinvention of the battle mechanics to not be the rigid turn based combat and some kind of realtime action-game based system. That's been my dream for the franchise since the original red/blue.

[JimmyKane]

Anybody ever wonder what they're gonna call the versions down the line? Like when they run out of normal colours and the Generation 11 games are called "Pokemon Pale Magenta and Kinda Sandy Yellow"?

Or they could keep continue in the Ruby, Diamond, Pearl vein and Gen 12 can be "Pokemon Talc and Shale Versions".

[Ninjalada]

I bought a Fire Stone and now I gots me a Arcanine, he's so dreamy!

[FX-GTZ]

Sigh... Yep i think i am stuffed saving at the 3rd elite four guy. He's houndoom keeps on raising his special attack through a move, and then im pretty much one hit on every single pokemon, my only hope is to use feraligatr's ice fang until he gets frozen solid.

[Nic Xtreme]

Sigh... Yep i think i am stuffed saving at the 3rd elite four guy. He's houndoom keeps on raising his special attack through a move, and then im pretty much one hit on every single pokemon, my only hope is to use feraligatr's ice fang until he gets frozen solid.

It's probably been mentioned before but just lose! You lose a tiny amount of money but you would have gained far more plus all those experience points! There's only a very small monetary penalty for whiting out!

[JubeiSaotome]

I can live with turn-based, but for god sake give me some freedom with the interface and make it more intuitive. Pokemon is one series that's felt stuck in the SNES era when it comes to a UI.

[Clockw0rk]

I've always hated the fact that you are forced to move in a grid. What the **** is this, 1986?

[JubeiSaotome]

PC boxes need an overhaul. Move / Deposit pokemon and Change items could all be one option.

[TSplodey]

PC Boxes were great in the GBA (and I think DPP) versions. Move Pokemon was all you needed, cause it covered Withdraw, Deposit and Moving Items in one simple option.

[Nic Xtreme]

The PC boxes started out with the fantastically flexible move option, but DPP made it way easier with the touchscreen! HGSS's isn't as good, as you have to click "Party Pokemon", then "Switch", and it still doesn't swap them the way it should.

ALSO: Pokemon Black/White images! Awesome! (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)

[BB2K]

ALSO: Pokemon Black/White images! Awesome! (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)

Pfffft, 'every aspect [of the IP] will be reborn innovatively'. It's the same ****ing thing, just with cheap 3D graphics, judging by those pictures.

[Nic Xtreme]

Pfffft, 'every aspect [of the IP] will be reborn innovatively'. It's the same ****ing thing, just with cheap 3D graphics, judging by those pictures.

Whine whine whine.

(1) It's a new Pokemon and (2) HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THOSE GRAPHICS! It looks amazing! ZOMG!!!!1!

[JimmyKane]

The girl has a ****ing massive hat.

[JubeiSaotome]

Still looks like the same style, just at a different game camera angle. Here's betting they label the viewpoint "Dynamic".

[Ninjalada]

Sigh... Yep i think i am stuffed saving at the 3rd elite four guy. He's houndoom keeps on raising his special attack through a move, and then im pretty much one hit on every single pokemon, my only hope is to use feraligatr's ice fang until he gets frozen solid.

I was so lucky to beat that Houndoom. I was using my Feraligatr (the only one of my Pokemon still alive) to Water Gun it and it only needed 1 more hit when it used Crunch (or something) on me. I watched, and prayed, as my Feraligatr's health went down, down, down...and stopped...........at 1HP.

Needless to say, 1HP was all I needed so I finished the Houndoom off with one more Water Gun and the battle was over.

[TSplodey]

I was so lucky to beat that Houndoom. I was using my Feraligatr (the only one of my Pokemon still alive) to Water Gun it and it only needed 1 more hit when it used Crunch (or something) on me. I watched, and prayed, as my Feraligatr's health went down, down, down...and stopped...........at 1HP.

Needless to say, 1HP was all I needed so I finished the Houndoom off with one more Water Gun and the battle was over.
How come you didn't teach him Surf lol, its like the only good HM ever. :p

[Silverwolf]

Surf ****ing owns, and it's fairly obvious ninjalada is bad at pokemon ;o

[Blob]

Pfffft, 'every aspect [of the IP] will be reborn innovatively'. It's the same ****ing thing, just with cheap 3D graphics, judging by those pictures.

Sigh. Do people complain when Virtual fighter 6, or Super street fighter 4.2 come out? No? Why is that? They havent evolved nearly as much as Pokemon games yet they get a free pass for some reason.

Oh and surf should always be on any water pokemon who has a better special attack rating than normal attack. Its just that good.

[JimmyKane]

Surf is ridiculously good.

Also, does anybody know if there's any reason at all for Water Sport and Mud Sport? Why do they exist? What complete idiot thought them up?

[Nic Xtreme]

Surf is ridiculously good.

Also, does anybody know if there's any reason at all for Water Sport and Mud Sport? Why do they exist? What complete idiot thought them up?

Double battles! I've never engaged in that part of the metagame though, so I'm not really familiar with their usability.

[Ali G]

Oh and surf should always be on any water pokemon who has a better special attack rating than normal attack. Its just that good.
Hang on, people actually look at attack ratings and stuff?

[Ninjalada]

Surf ****ing owns, and it's fairly obvious ninjalada is bad at pokemon ;o

Ex-****ing-cuse me, I prefer to Surf on my Furrett. ;)

[AranchineD]

Sigh. Do people complain when Virtual fighter 6, or Super street fighter 4.2 come out? No? Why is that? They havent evolved nearly as much as Pokemon games yet they get a free pass for some reason.

Well pretty clearly you've never actually played the different games in those series then, so it'd be best if you were quiet now.

[Nic Xtreme]

Sigh. Do people complain when Virtual fighter 6, or Super street fighter 4.2 come out? No? Why is that? They havent evolved nearly as much as Pokemon games yet they get a free pass for some reason.

They've evolved in a similar manner. Aesthetically, not so much, but the fighting engine has evolved and changed significantly. Same as Pokemon. Thing is, because the metagame of Pokemon isn't the core experience for as many people as it is for fighting games, the evolution of the series in that respect isn't always obvious.

[JimmyKane]

Double battles! I've never engaged in that part of the metagame though, so I'm not really familiar with their usability.
I suppose, they were introduced in Gen III after all.

They're like the Plusle and Minum of attacks, perhaps. Pointless except to demonstrate OMG NEW FEATUREZ

[FrozenSoul80]

ALSO: Pokemon Black/White images! Awesome! (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)

Not feeling it. Pokemon got the style right the first time, which is why I feel it has remained so long. Without the addition of an MMO feature, I don't feel the franchise has anything fresh to contribute - we got everything we wanted in Gen 4.

[Queenie]

If only you'd never played SS, then this would never have happened.

What's done is done, and cannot be undone.

[Ninjalada]

I just had a go against Ace Trainer Cal in Trainer House. She has a Megaynium, Typhlosion and Feraligatr. I never got past her Megaynium though because it first badly poisons my pokemon with Toxic and then just sits back and uses Protect whilst regenrating with Leftovers.

[JimmyKane]

Use Feint.

[Mr Pie]

What does Feint do, I've seen it but never used it...

[Nic Xtreme]

What does Feint do, I've seen it but never used it...

It hits Pokemon that are using Protect/Detect.

[Silverwolf]

Ex-****ing-cuse me, I prefer to Surf on my Furrett. ;)

Yep, you're bad.

[JimmyKane]

Feraligatr gets same type attack bonus and probably has much better special attack.

And more importantly you can teach both of them Surf, for Christ's sake.

[AranchineD]

Also why would you use a Normal-only type Pokemon for anything whatsoever

[Nic Xtreme]

Also why would you use a Normal-only type Pokemon for anything whatsoever

^ Obviously has never battled an Ambipom or a Regigigas.

[AranchineD]

Aimbpom is shit because it's normal type and if you lose to it you are a terrible person.

[Nic Xtreme]

Aimbpom is shit because it's normal type and if you lose to it you are a terrible person.

^ Obviously has never battled an Ambipom.

[Silverwolf]

Ambipom is shit because it's normal type and a retarded monkey

[Natrak]

Porygon-Z would like a word.

[Nic Xtreme]

Shit's on.