Pokemon Gold and Silver (DS) - Catch 'em All Again on the 25th of March

[Blue]

Who's biting?

[Richie]

Err... fill us in?

[PrattP]

This is only a rumour, isn't it?

[Charlie_]

Clickyy (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Major_Pok%C3%A9mon_game_to_be_announced_this_month )

I really hope this is true! G/S were my favourites =[

[AranchineD]

Clickyy (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Major_Pok%C3%A9mon_game_to_be_announced_this_month )

I really hope this is true! G/S were my favourites =[

This, added enough to be worthy of playing even after playing the first game to death, before the rest of the games in the series just did absolutely nothing whatsoever to further the series.

Also Silver FTW.

[Tukenstein]

Also Silver FTW.

You're damned straight! I chose that one just so I could catch that ladybug pokemon.



... >_>

[AranchineD]

Did you ever put two female Ledybas in the Daycare Centre together?

Aww yeah

[Blue]

I'm actually excited, as this will surely include R/B/Y's Kanto region as the original did, providing a massive amount of updated Pokemon gaming in one DS cartridge.

Fingers crossed.

[FrozenSoul80]

I really hope it's Gold and Silver, I went back to play them again about a year ago and discovered I'd been visited by the Dead Battery Fairy :(

[FX-GTZ]

Well Gamefreak already remade Pokemon red/blue and green with Pokemon Fire red and Leaf green on the gba, so there's no real need to remake a game of a remake, which assumes that the upcoming title is no doubt a Pokemon Gold/Silver remake, im guessing:

Pokemon Metallic Gold and Metallic Silver, i could be wrong though.

Edit: Btw if they were remaking something like Pokemon Trading Card Game gbc, i would so excited!

[Nic Xtreme]

I'm actually excited, as this will surely include R/B/Y's Kanto region as the original did, providing a massive amount of updated Pokemon gaming in one DS cartridge.

Fingers crossed.

Damn straight!

Game-wise, music-wise, and atmosphere-wise, G/S/C are the best IMO! Even if D/P/P are the best battle-wise.

I really, really hope this is what the news is about, especially since there were Gold and Silver balloons at the announcement of an announcement!

[Blue]

Yeah, I never went in for Fire Red or Leaf Green, but the DS is far enough removed from a GBC for me to justify it. The gradual improvements they've brought in with R/S/E and D/P/P all coming in at once, plus the first two regions and Pokemon, not to mention the retrofit of all the new Pokes, should make for the undisputed ultimate Pokemon title.

[SOX]

What is this, 1999?

[Natrak]

It's been pretty obvious Gamefreak would be doing this since Diamond/Pearl's release. They had various nods towards the Gold&Silver games (Red Gyarados and one of the gym leaders are the first that spring to mind), on top of this, one of the locations pokemon can be listed from in the game code is Johto. Good to know we should be getting an official announcement soon.

Silver ftw, by the way.

[VanAce]

I really hope it's Gold and Silver, I went back to play them again about a year ago and discovered I'd been visited by the Dead Battery Fairy :(

Happened to me too. There are instructions on how to fix them out there on the interwebs but it is not an easy task if you don't really know what you are doing.

[FrozenSoul80]

Happened to me too. There are instructions on how to fix them out there on the interwebs but it is not an easy task if you don't really know what you are doing.

It's pointless anyway, all my shiny Pokemon and awesome leveled up team are gone. Fixing the cartridge up would be like reviving a long-dead friend only to find they'd lost their memories; painful.

[FX-GTZ]

The official 2 new pokemon games are titled: Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver.

Link to Kotaku article - http://kotaku.com/5245005/pokemon-gold-and-silver-getting-ds-remakes

Cannot wait for first screenies, im hoping the game engine isnt that of Pokemon Pearl/Diamond, but i doubt they'll build a whole new game engine just for Heart Gold and Soul Silver.

[AranchineD]

Heart & Soul?

Right, **** this, I'm not interested anymore.

[FrozenSoul80]

http://cache.io9.com/assets/resources/2007/11/HeartOfGold.jpg

[Blue]

Heart of gold I understand, but... I guess they just tried to make silver fit in with that theme. Pretty terrible names. I'll still buy Silver, and call it 'Pokemon Silver: DS Remake'.

[Blob]

Heart and soul are the Jap names and they sound like it. Something tells me they may change it for the western audience.
Im in though. Pumped for a chance to relieve one of my top 5 games of all time.

[Blue]

Any speculation as to localised replacements?

[PrattP]

Not as yet, from anywhere.

Good news, Soul Silver is a much better name than Heart Gold btw. :p

[AranchineD]

Hopefully we get Sterling Silver, that'd be rad.

[PrattP]

And Carat Gold?

[AranchineD]

Fool's Gold

BECAUSE ONLY FOOLS WOULD BUY THAT VERSION

[Jickle]

I haven't given a shit about Pokemon for years (I picked up one of the new ones cheap but never finished it), but Gold/Silver were easily the best in the series. Will be buying.

[BB2K]

I have to change my underpants.

[Charlie_]

Yayyy. Nice names too! I hope they keep it like that for us.

[Blue]

I'm hoping for 'Pokemon: Quicksilver'.

Look, we all know they're scraping the barrel for names nowadays, I wouldn't be surprised if those names are the intended U.S/U.K monikers.

I hope this is out by Christmas in English.

[Nic Xtreme]

I am sooooooooooooooo excited for this; it's exactly what I was hoping they'd do! I LOVE G/S <3

[aceaussie]

I am sooooooooooooooo excited for this; it's exactly what I was hoping they'd do! I LOVE G/S <3
I think everyone felt this way about these two amazing games =)
I'll be getting four copies, one of each for myself, one for my Sister and father too.

Also Cyndaquil FTW

[Blue]

Everybody's excited because they have fond memories of these games, whereas I'm excited because it's the only iteration I never played, and because it is the most expansive.

[Queenie]

It also follows on from red/green quite well.

I'll be starting off with cyndaquil. in Silver.

oh yeah, did anyone win the lottery in the old games? I clocked in a year after I bought it and got it, but I can't remember what.

[Patdog]

I think its a masterball if you match all the numbers.

[Nic Xtreme]

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<3 <3 <3

Wind! Pokemon following you! Gold and Silver! Joy!

[Patdog]

Does the guy on the left at the end have a Hitler?

[FrozenSoul80]

Does the guy on the left at the end have a Hitler?

It certainly looks like it.

I really hope the old music returns, especially Pokemon March.

[Patdog]

Oh yeah I forgot about the radio. I wonder if they will add any new stations seeing as there was only 3-4 from memory.

[Maxi]

Oh wow, they still have THE ****ING GRID SYSTEM!! FFS, if they're going to re-release old games, they may as well give them a ****ing overhaul and make them a bit more modern. I bet the battles will look just as shit as always too. **** pokemon.

[Blob]

Oh wow, they still have THE ****ING GRID SYSTEM!! FFS, if they're going to re-release old games, they may as well give them a ****ing overhaul and make them a bit more modern. I bet the battles will look just as shit as always too. **** pokemon.

Im sorry but there is really no need to rehaul the graphics system at the moment. The world would just look ugly with the current hardware and i really dont want to have my battles looking like the N64 ones. They were slow and i think that the pokemon sprites look far better than 3d models would.

[Watchers]

Oh wow, they still have THE ****ING GRID SYSTEM!! FFS, if they're going to re-release old games, they may as well give them a ****ing overhaul and make them a bit more modern. I bet the battles will look just as shit as always too. **** pokemon.

The whole game has never really moved past Gold/Silver, so expecting them to change things up in a remake is silly. Nintendo will just keep on milking.

[Blob]

The whole game has never really moved past Gold/Silver, so expecting them to change things up in a remake is silly. Nintendo will just keep on milking.

So many companies make less changes between games and they never get criticised of milking them. why is it that pokemon a game were the metagame gets shaken up with every generation release get criticised so often?
Im still doing things on my sapphire game cart let alone getting everything out of Diamond.

[Watchers]

So many companies make less changes between games and they never get criticised of milking them. why is it that pokemon a game were the metagame gets shaken up with every generation release get criticised so often?
Im still doing things on my sapphire game cart let alone getting everything out of Diamond.

Generally, the only games that change less between each iteration are sports games. Even then, over a ten year period, something like Fifa would've changed a lot more than Pokemon.

[Maxi]

Seriously, pokemon has changed so little. It's lame. It's the same thing again and again, and tbh, it's boring.

The graphics themselves aren't that bad, and I don't mind the style of the D/P ones. What gets me is that the battle scenes look crap. Seriously, they could improve the looks without making them too long with the animations. Hell, they could have an option to turn off animations (which I believe they have). Seriously, the battles are a big part of the game, whether you like it or not, they need to look good.

Also, the grid system shits me no end. It's an extremely old thing that they don't need to use. I get pissed off with the game because of this.

It's not like they have to do a massive update or anything, but if they don't upgrade it at all, it's pointless. And not only that, they just keep on re-releasing the old games and it's ****ing lame. I'm not going to support this bullshit.

[Blob]

Generally, the only games that change less between each iteration are sports games. Even then, over a ten year period, something like Fifa would've changed a lot more than Pokemon.

Id say gta has changed less than pokemon in its last four versions. What about Halos evolutions? Hell most fighting games add new characters/levels and little else between each game so im not sure why pokemon cops the crap it does.

Im not going to deny that that the main story system in pokemon has in fact been the same and needs something new but for many the real game is developing new teams with new items, pokemon and moves. In the most recent the physical special move split added a lot to the competitive system. Are you guys into the Pokemon metagame at all?

[Blue]

It doesn't really need anything more than a grid-based movement system. It's not an action-RPG.

It looks pretty good to me, and until we get a Nintendo handheld with proper 3D capabilities, the current look is a wise design choice.

[Nic Xtreme]

Pokemon has changed massively since even Ruby/Sapphire. As was said in an interview, they have a whole team dedicated to just the battle system alone. Goddamn, so many changes! The rules are rewritten and adjusted everytime.

Non-battle gameplay? Not as much. Who gives a **** though. If you aren't playing Pokemon for the battling, you're never going to get into depth with it and as such aren't going to like it as much anyway.

Gosh, Pokemon is the best.

[JubeiSaotome]

Pokemon has really moved into the depth and strategy of any 2D fighting game, if you haven't noticed this, you aren't playing it right.

[Watchers]

Pokemon has really moved into the depth and strategy of any 2D fighting game, if you haven't noticed this, you aren't playing it right.

I love when people say if you're playing a game differently you aren't playing it 'right'.

And those Halo comparisons are flawed. Sure, Halo hasn't changed much, but there have only been three games in the series. How many different Pokemon games have their been? And how many remakes?

For those of us who don't give a rat's about competitive battling and spending ages grinding/evolving/resetting/breeding/making berries, there isn't anything new since Silver/Gold.

[Blue]

Pokemon has changed massively since even Ruby/Sapphire. As was said in an interview, they have a whole team dedicated to just the battle system alone. Goddamn, so many changes! The rules are rewritten and adjusted everytime.

Non-battle gameplay? Not as much. Who gives a **** though. If you aren't playing Pokemon for the battling, you're never going to get into depth with it and as such aren't going to like it as much anyway.

Gosh, Pokemon is the best.I remember those online battles we had back in the Diamond/Pearl Hyper tourney. You told me my Gengar was shiny, as I'd never even realised. :p

[Nic Xtreme]

I remember those online battles we had back in the Diamond/Pearl Hyper tourney. You told me my Gengar was shiny, as I'd never even realised. :p

Back in the day, when I had time :( Damn uni/work. I can't wait till I'm a teacher next year. Weekends off. Playing Pokemon <3

[Blob]

And those Halo comparisons are flawed. Sure, Halo hasn't changed much, but there have only been three games in the series. How many different Pokemon games have their been? And how many remakes?


How so? Three of the same game in six years has to be milking it by your standards.
Pokemon has had 4 different main games in 12 years and sure the remakes may be a little over the top but darned if it isnt good fun relieving memories with extras here and there.

This isnt taking into account all the other spin off games which from what ive heard are actually quite decent in their own right (not including the somewhat pointless stadium/battle revolution type games).

[Blue]

How so? Three of the same game in six years has to be milking it by your standards.
Pokemon has had 4 different main games in 12 years and sure the remakes may be a little over the top but darned if it isnt good fun relieving memories with extras here and there.

This isnt taking into account all the other spin off games which from what ive heard are actually quite decent in their own right (not including the somewhat pointless stadium/battle revolution type games).The original Stadium on N64 was good, as it had a decent amount of content, and I played most of Yellow through the built-in emulator rather than on my GBP. It was a great tool for playing the game, keeping your Pokemon organised, and the battles were pretty much the icing on the cake. I never would have snagged all 150 if I'd had to do it all on the small screen.

[Watchers]

Pokemon has had 4 different main games in 12 years and sure the remakes may be a little over the top but darned if it isnt good fun relieving memories with extras here and there.

Two 'versions' of each game, plus a third version released 6 months to a year later doesn't seem like overkill? Not to mention multiple versions of remakes.

I don't even like Halo (the first one was okay, but I prefer my FPS on PC), but it doesn't seem anywhere near as stale as the Pokemon games to me.

[Queenie]

The original Stadium on N64 was good, as it had a decent amount of content, and I played most of Yellow through the built-in emulator rather than on my GBP. It was a great tool for playing the game, keeping your Pokemon organised, and the battles were pretty much the icing on the cake. I never would have snagged all 150 if I'd had to do it all on the small screen.

yeah, I have to say that if it weren't for the n64 I might have borked my thumb (eternal callous of the spotless hand) even more. The d-pad on my old GBA is so pushed in you can't play it (even though it works fine after that).

remakes : needed cos the savegame died like a year ago.

needed: some sort of online storage thing through a service that comes when you make your pokemon so they are never lost again.

like a pokemon- add on to a nintendo wifi station or something.

[Blob]

Two 'versions' of each game, plus a third version released 6 months to a year later doesn't seem like overkill? Not to mention multiple versions of remakes.


Ive only ever bought one of each of the games so I really havent noticed it. Your right with the platinum, yellow, crystal versions but people seem to love those versions for some reason. The two versions of the one game was to encourage trading and i dont think your expected to buy both.

needed: some sort of online storage thing through a service that comes when you make your pokemon so they are never lost again.


This is required for all games. Nothing more devestating than losing hundreds of hours of work.

[AranchineD]

Hmm, I guess no-one liked Gold then. >_>

[Blue]

yeah, I have to say that if it weren't for the n64 I might have borked my thumb (eternal callous of the spotless hand) even more. The d-pad on my old GBA is so pushed in you can't play it (even though it works fine after that).

remakes : needed cos the savegame died like a year ago.

needed: some sort of online storage thing through a service that comes when you make your pokemon so they are never lost again.

like a pokemon- add on to a nintendo wifi station or something.I'd say a 'Pokemon Channel' on Wii that acts as a Pokemon storage system using the Wii's hopefully reliable internal storage. If we trust it with digital downloads, we should be able to trust it with our Pokes.

[Watchers]

remakes : needed cos the savegame died like a year ago.

That's a pretty weak reason.

[Blob]

That's a pretty weak reason.

Better reason would be that they were unable to make it so that the original pokemon could be transferred to sapphire/ruby so they had to make a way for you to be able to obtain them. Now i think theyve just decided to do it again.

[Watchers]

Then how about releasing it at a budget price?

[Blob]

Then how about releasing it at a budget price?

Lol why do that when you can charge full :p

[Queenie]

Then how about releasing it at a budget price?

because it's a remake with ADDITIONS :P

[Blue]

Then how about releasing it at a budget price?Many gamers would have never played the original, and are happy to pay full price for a brand new experience. If you played the original, and don't feel compelled to play it again, that's your decision. Don't buy it.

[Maxi]

If you played ANY of the pokemon games, there is no point buying any others.

[Blue]

If you played ANY of the pokemon games, there is no point buying any others.Incorrect. Just stay out of the thread.

[Watchers]

Many gamers would have never played the original, and are happy to pay full price for a brand new experience. If you played the original, and don't feel compelled to play it again, that's your decision. Don't buy it.

Mmmm... milk.

[Blue]

Mmmm... milk.Mmm . . . Wit.

[Watchers]

Mmm . . . Wit.

lolblue

[VanAce]

I would only get it if there are vast improvements as I have the original game still. It would need something that set it apart from the original as well as the other games in the series.

[FrozenSoul80]

I would only get it if there are vast improvements as I have the original game still. It would need something that set it apart from the original as well as the other games in the series.

It's unlikely your original version would still work.

[Blue]

I had a dream last night that I paid $69.95 for a pre-owned copy of Leaf Green. Yeah, ahah, not happening.

[RunningMild]

I would only get it if there are vast improvements as I have the original game still. It would need something that set it apart from the original as well as the other games in the series.

You can play it on a DSi. ;)

[VanAce]

It's unlikely your original version would still work.

I know for a fact that my old silver doesn't work but I am think Gold might

[Kasplatza Red]

HAAATO GOOOOLD TO SOOOOOOLU SHILUBAAAAA!! *rofl*

I dunno, the names aren't too bad, they'v grown on me. I'm so totally pumped for these games, as gold is undounbedtly my favourite GBC game, as well as my favourite pokemon game :D (too bad the starters suck, though :( )

Also, it's pretty much guaranteed that any copy of the original gold and silver games won't work anymore, because the internal clock used in the game was on the CARTRIDGE, which meant even when you weren't playing the game, it was using up battery life. The GBA generation will most likely fall into the same hole in about ten years time, actually (correct me if I'm wrong, of course). The DS on the other hand, has a clock built into the console itself, so there shouldn't be any problems, meaning that ten years on, your pokemon games will still be working :D

[Blob]

HAAATO GOOOOLD TO SOOOOOOLU SHILUBAAAAA!! *rofl*

I dunno, the names aren't too bad, they'v grown on me. I'm so totally pumped for these games, as gold is undounbedtly my favourite GBC game, as well as my favourite pokemon game :D (too bad the starters suck, though :( )

Feraligatr was the bomb....

[ireadtabloids]

I really hope it's Gold and Silver, I went back to play them again about a year ago and discovered I'd been visited by the Dead Battery Fairy :(

Same. I went into shock. Apparently it's a very common glitch found in gold version. I had a Tyranitar and a Blissey for crying out loud! It was a frustrating year of dying technology for me.

[Blue]

Same. I went into shock. Apparently it's a very common glitch found in gold version. I had a Tyranitar and a Blissey for crying out loud! It was a frustrating year of dying technology for me.It's not so much a glitch as a hardware failure. Nintendo would have expected everybody to have moved on to a new version by this point, so it wouldn't have been considered an issue. Or it's planned obsolescence. :p

[ireadtabloids]

Remember how in Red/Blue there was Missing No. Which you could battle, but stuffed up your game (and allegedly your game boy) if you tried to catch it.
That was my first experience of evil in Nintendo! I never knew what happened to the programmer that put that in. But actually, the internal clocks on Ruby/Sapphire also died after a few years, making you unable to grow berries. So maybe your theory of forced obsolescence holds weight.

[Blob]

That was my first experience of evil in Nintendo! I never knew what happened to the programmer that put that in. But actually, the internal clocks on Ruby/Sapphire also died after a few years, making you unable to grow berries. So maybe your theory of forced obsolescence holds weight.

You can fix the ruby/sapphire clock when you link it up to any of the gmaecube games.

[JimJim]

The originals don't work anymore?! I'm fairly sure mine do *knocks on wood*

*goes to check*

[FrozenSoul80]

The originals don't work anymore?! I'm fairly sure mine do *knocks on wood*

*goes to check*

Don't do it, you will only be hurting yourself.

[JimJim]

I couldn't find the power cable :S

...and I could only find one AAA battery...

[FrozenSoul80]

It's probably for the best, pal. Just forget about the original games, it will save you a lot of heartbreak.

Are we expecting any new info on this to drop at E3? I'm eager to see more.

[JimJim]

But I don't see why they wouldn't work? e.g. my Pokémon Blue game was still working as of last year...

EDIT:
(just looked it up... I see!)

[ireadtabloids]

You can fix the ruby/sapphire clock when you link it up to any of the gmaecube games.

Do Box or Channel count?!

[Blob]

Do Box or Channel count?!

Channel fixed mine so id say yes.

[Blob]

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/06/pokemon-heart-goldsoul-silver-come-with-pedometer/#more-340455

Sounds sweet and should save some tedium in the leveling area of the game.

[Nic Xtreme]

Hah, that is so cool I want it! Pokemon <3

It's probably like 1 EXP per step, though, so that's like, what, 10,000 EXP a day? That's...slow. But I guess as an extra what you aren't playing Pokemon (which should be never), it could come in handy!

[ireadtabloids]

This article should explain what you want to know. http://au.ds.ign.com/articles/992/992310p1.html
I hope it gets a PAL release as a bundled bonus.

[JimJim]

I am so sold on this remake.

[Newell]

Lugia was definitely way cooler.

[ThePhotoshop]

SUPER IMPORTANT QUESTION:

Are the battles any quicker? The thing that stopped me playing Diamond was the huge pauses between every action, and how long everything took to happen.

[Queenie]

they do feel quicker. Also, the menu system etc is a lot more user friendly and much better integrates the DS touch-screen. Ie, basically the menu in a way is always open, and you can access each function using the screen. Also, Lugia is in 3d in the intro screen and looks awesome.

[VanAce]

Intro for HeartGold

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-RVQWZOoJI

Intro For SoulSilver

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY8wgmflFVo&feature=related

[FrozenSoul80]

Those intros were good, but I was hoping they'd be excellent remakes of the original Gold/Silver opening :(

[Nic Xtreme]

AU & US Platinum owners can now get Oak's Letter via mystery gift which opens up Shaymin :D

[Blob]

So how about us poor bastards with Diamond/Pearl? Its kind of annoying that because platinum is out we start to get ditched from events because we didnt feel it was worth getting the new version.

[Clockw0rk]

Had to dig way back to find this thread. They get a local release this month, don't they?
Anyone still excited? I actually might get it. Never played G/S, went straight from R/B to Ruby/Sapphire.

[FrozenSoul80]

I'm excited, but I'm currently more excited for Mass Effect 2 so this is kinda taking a back seat. Still, I can't wait to play it.

[Blue]

Wait, does this have an Australian release date, or are you guys talking about importing from the U.K?

[FrozenSoul80]

Wait, does this have an Australian release date, or are you guys talking about importing from the U.K?

The EB Games site just says March.

[Blue]

The EB Games site just says March.Sweet. Cheers!

[Clockw0rk]

UK Import, 19 March 2010 (http://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/Nintendo-DS/Pokemon-HeartGold-Version--Pokwalker-accessory/3196955/)

[Ninjalada]

Hmm, I guess no-one liked Gold then. >_>

I bought the Gold version back in the day and I'll be buying Gold again.

The last Pokemon game I bought was Ruby so I'm super excited to get back into it again.




Shit, I gotta finish Apollo Justice and Pheonix Wright: Justice for All first.

[dimorphic]

UK Import, 19 March 2010 (http://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/Nintendo-DS/Pokemon-HeartGold-Version--Pokwalker-accessory/3196955/)

Or wait till the 25th for a local release?

[Blue]

I bought the Gold version back in the day and I'll be buying Gold again.

The last Pokemon game I bought was Ruby so I'm super excited to get back into it again.




Shit, I gotta finish Apollo Justice and Pheonix Wright: Justice for All first.Gold … Ruby …

Let me guess, if you had to choose between Diamond and Pearl, you'd totally choose Pearl, right?

[Blob]

Rumors abound that gen 5 is coming to japan just in time for christmas this year. So christmas next year for us.
Can't wait for Silver remake, ive been keen to start training some new Pokemon but wandering around in D/P has become old for me.

[Starscream]

Rumors abound that gen 5 is coming to japan just in time for christmas this year. So christmas next year for us.
Can't wait for Silver remake, ive been keen to start training some new Pokemon but wandering around in D/P has become old for me.

Already?

Better not be a DS remake of Pokémon Ruby and Pokémon Sapphire because Nintendo are milking this franchise (although profitable) to death.

Out of curiosity was Pokémon Emerald (on GBA) the equivalent of Pokémon Yellow (mix of Pokémon Red and Pokémon Blue) or a mix of Pokémon Ruby and Pokémon Sapphire?

[Clift]

It was a mix of Ruby / Sapphire from memory.

[Starscream]

So they must've done Pokémon FireRed and Pokémon LeafGreen for fan service (more money) then.

[Ninjalada]

Gold … Ruby …

Let me guess, if you had to choose between Diamond and Pearl, you'd totally choose Pearl, right?

Lol I was actually going to buy Pearl but never got around to it.

I always like to go with the least popular choice.

[Blue]

Lol I was actually going to buy Pearl but never got around to it.

I always like to go with the least popular choice.I always thought that Red was more popular as a kid, but if I was going to buy one now, it'd probably be Blue. Was Red the more popular one because it had Charizard on it? I ended up getting the far superior Yellow, anyway.

If they'd kept the original Japanese Green version, nobody would have bought it. Venusaur was the clear weak link in those starters, as far as kids were concerned.

[Ninjalada]

I always thought that Red was more popular as a kid, but if I was going to buy one now, it'd probably be Blue. Was Red the more popular one because it had Charizard on it? I ended up getting the far superior Yellow, anyway.

If they'd kept the original Japanese Green version, nobody would have bought it. Venusaur was the clear weak link in those starters, as far as kids were concerned.

I'd say so. I did get the original Red version only because Charizard is so much better. I still remember when my Charmeleon evolved into Charizard and how excited I was.:D

I got Yellow as well, was it the same as Red and Blue? I can't remember.

[TimmyJ]

It was a hybrid/improved Red and Blue. Pikachu was your default starter (it'd follow you around) but you could actually get Squirtle,Charmander and Bulbasaur early-ish (a few hours) into the game. Visuals were also better than R/B.

[Ninjalada]

Ah yeah, I actually hated having Pikachu following me around.

Get into your ball dammit!

[Blob]

Already?

Better not be a DS remake of Pokémon Ruby and Pokémon Sapphire because Nintendo are milking this franchise (although profitable) to death.


Highly doubt Nintendos that silly to release a remake after a remake. It really Looks like Gen 5 is on its way*. Could be a sign that the DS2 is on its way? Doubtfully but it would make for a great launch title. I know many people who pick up the handhelds for Pokemon.

*. Confirmed. new shilouetes of pokemon have been unveiled. Details coming feb 15.

[Blue]

I'd say so. I did get the original Red version only because Charizard is so much better. I still remember when my Charmeleon evolved into Charizard and how excited I was.:D

I got Yellow as well, was it the same as Red and Blue? I can't remember.I think Blastoise is a better Poké now, however. I mean, a tortoise with cannons in its shell? Sick.

Yellow did have much better visuals, but the Pikachu thing was a gimmick. They're doing it again with the HG/SS remakes, but I fail to see how they can condense Kyogre into one sprite.

[TimmyJ]

Ah yeah, I actually hated having Pikachu following me around.

Get into your ball dammit!

Lol agreed. Stupid stubborn Pikachu.

Raichu is actually a mainstay in my party in D/P though..

[Ninjalada]

I saw the ads for Heart Gold and Soul Silver today, they are released on the 25th of March. I'll pre-order Gold tomorrow.

[Natrak]

Pff, Silver ftw.

[Bokracroc]

I remember playing a barely translated Gold on a GBC emulator called REW or something.
First experience into Pokemon but it was still damn captivating. Snapping up Gold on release, mmm.... sweet sweet nostalgia.

Oh yeah... I'll know what the shit everyone is actually saying this time too.

[Rambo]

Natrak is right, Silver IS where it is at.

[Nic Xtreme]

The above poll proves this well-known fact :p

[Ninjalada]

No. It goes gold, then silver, then bronze...

[VanAce]

I was always a Gold man. I will probably pick this up. Is there any good pre-order deals going around?

[FrozenSoul80]

No. It goes gold, then silver, then bronze...

Gold is tacky. Only whores wear gold.

[TimmyJ]

I'll prob go Gold I think the exclusive pokemon are a slight bit better but I'll have to double check gamefaqs to make sure of that...

[Blob]

Ill just go silver simply becuase its what I got the first time round. Exclusive pokemon don't worry me much because ive already got 491 of them...

[TimmyJ]

Damn. In Pearl I'm only at around 300, from memory.

[Ninjalada]

Gold is tacky. Only whores wear gold.

And winners!

[Spazzallo]

Can't wait for this... nearly got enough affiliate funds to get this for free from Play-Asia :D.

[Jickle]

A review copy of this rocked up in the mail today. BRB, reliving 2000.

[FrozenSoul80]

I hate you :(

[Jickle]

Well I've only had the game for one night and I've already formed an unhealthy addiction to it. Dammit!

[BB2K]

It is a Pokemon game/

[Rambo]

So I've chosen Totodile.

Shit's getting real.

[SOX]

Think I'll just wait for the inevitable Crystal version..

[Bokracroc]

Damn having to wait for the proper Aus release.
I ordered it EB Games cause I already had $30 down on ME2 that I never picked up from there.

[Spazzallo]

My order from play asia should be shipping tonight and didn't pay a cent :D hope it gets here by the end of next week before I go away to Queensland.

[FrozenSoul80]

Think I'll just wait for the inevitable Crystal version..

I don't think there will be one, I was under the impression this was basically a mix of all three games. They never remade Yellow, why would they remake Crystal?

[SOX]

I don't think there will be one, I was under the impression this was basically a mix of all three games. They never remade Yellow, why would they remake Crystal?

MO MONEY - obviously.
What's the deal with the pokewalker thingo - does it make noise (or have a mute option)?

[Ninjalada]

3 days to go!

I chose Cyndaquil in the OG Gold so this time I think I'll go with Totodile.

[Spazzallo]

Apparently it's in the mail at home! Oh why did I agree to move furniture tonight! >_<

[9warbane]

I've got a level 38 Dragonair and 37 Quilava so far. I haven't decided on who else to train yet.

[Lazlow]

Well I've only had the game for one night and I've already formed an unhealthy addiction to it. Dammit!


I'm actually considering breaking my lifelong hatred of Pokemon and getting one of these two. Partially for something new to play on the DS, partially because I'm curious and partially because people seem to dig it regardless of age or sexual orientation.

[Nic Xtreme]

JqENnZNoHdQ

[Jickle]

I'm actually considering breaking my lifelong hatred of Pokemon and getting one of these two. Partially for something new to play on the DS, partially because I'm curious and partially because people seem to dig it regardless of age or sexual orientation.

If you're going to try a Pokemon game, it should definitely be this one. Gold and Silver were the best in the series, and this remade has only made them better. They've held up very well over the last decade, too.

[Ninjalada]

OMG I just realised that Sentret/Furret is in Gold/Silver, I loved that pokemon.

[Frostillicus]

anyone know how many save files are on 1 DS cartridge for pokeon heartgold and soul silver? Its not just 1 file like the old games is it?

[BB2K]

I'm guessing it's only one, same as it always has been with pokemon games.

This was posted in the Bargain Hunter thread, but
http://www.jbhifi.com.au/images/2010/04/JB-AU-20100323-4_01.pnghttp://www.jbhifi.com.au/images/2010/04/JB-AU-20100323-4_02.png
http://www.jbhifi.com.au/images/2010/04/JB-AU-20100323-4_03.pnghttp://www.jbhifi.com.au/images/2010/04/JB-AU-20100323-4_04.png
and so far there's still no DS exclusion list. I think I'll end up getting both, just because I have so old games I don't really want anymore.

EDIT: It turns out there are some DS exclusions (http://www.jbhifi.com.au/images/games/excluded-games.pdf). Well, I am a giddy goat.

[Spazzallo]

That Voltorb game (the game that replaces the slots) is addictive! Spent a while there and got myself a dratini :).

[FrozenSoul80]

Hang on, have they removed the slot and card machines?

[Spazzallo]

Apparently they have in all English versions, I've got the US one. It's no real loss, you can't lose coins in this game (can't buy them though) and it actually requires a bit of thought as opposed to spamming a button in hope whilst watching TV.

[FrozenSoul80]

Don't care. Shittiest remake ever, I'm calling it now.

[Rambo]

Going with Totodile and Mareep build.

I'm gonna be unstoppable.

Oh and is it just me or have they added new moves? Falkner used Roost? WTF IS THAT? BIRDS CAN'T JUST HEAL!

[Spazzallo]

Aren't they moves from the third and fourth generations? There's a heap of new moves and certain pokemon are learning different things to the first time around.

Just got my fourth badge, didn't even get touched by any of the trainers in there, gym leader included. <3 Kadabra.

[Barefooted Hobo]

I choose you chikorita! Well, tomorrow when I get the game.

Gold ftw.

[Starscream]

Going to get Gold

[Jickle]

Going with Totodile and Mareep build.

I'm gonna be unstoppable.

Oh and is it just me or have they added new moves? Falkner used Roost? WTF IS THAT? BIRDS CAN'T JUST HEAL!

I haven't actually seen a Mareep yet, for some reason. I totally love Amphoros, too.

[Ninjalada]

I'm gonna go with Totodile and so the rival will have Chikorita, which I will counter with Growlithe (exclusive to Heart Gold).

I wish I could trade my Salamance from Ruby but I can't be bothered getting a cable and stuff.

[BB2K]

I wish I could trade my Salamance from Ruby but I can't be bothered getting a cable and stuff.

Provided you have a DS Lite or a DS Phat, you don't need any cables >_>

[FrozenSoul80]

Oh wow, the memories this game is bringing back. Love it :D

[BB2K]

I am also loving this, despite not playing the original Gold or Silver. I think I should've kept my bellsprout instead of trading it for an Onix >_>

EDIT: Just got a Spearow on the Pokewalker. This dowackey's the shit.

[Ninjalada]

I just got ambushed by my rival (who I named ***face) and he beat me with his Bayleaf's poison powder/synthesis spam bullshit, causing me to reload my last save and lose an hour and fifteen minutes of play time.

*****!

[FrozenSoul80]

Wouldn't have happened if you'd started with the winners Pokemon - Cyndaquil.

[Nic Xtreme]

I just got ambushed by my rival (who I named ***face) and he beat me with his Bayleaf's poison powder/synthesis spam bullshit, causing me to reload my last save and lose an hour and fifteen minutes of play time.

*****!

On D/P when you lose you white out, and go back to a Pokemon Center, losing only a little bit of your money. Didn't this happen, or did you just hit reset?

[Spazzallo]

On D/P when you lose you white out, and go back to a Pokemon Center, losing only a little bit of your money. Didn't this happen, or did you just hit reset?

This is what I was thinking... I'm pretty sure I only lost 5% of my money when I lost to the kimono girls. Though I think it's a good way to grind some XP if you lose the last fight. Gained $4000 from each fight won and only lost $4000 so you still end up making money .

Also, I killed Ho-oh :( lucky legendaries can respawn once this time :D.

[FrozenSoul80]

Bellchime Trail. Mind blown. This shit looks awesome! :D

Also it's hilarious how Magikarp follows you.

[FX-GTZ]

Wouldn't have happened if you'd started with the winners Pokemon - Cyndaquil.
But then you would have to fight his mudkip, and we all know how that would end. Mudkips always end up winning.

[FrozenSoul80]

But then you would have to fight his mudkip, and we all know how that would end. Mudkips always end up winning.

Wrong game, buddy.

[FX-GTZ]

Oh right, totodile.

[AranchineD]

Did...did you just confuse Totodile and Mudkip?




Frozen, ban this guy, IT'S THE ONLY SOLUTION

[FX-GTZ]

Did...did you just confuse Totodile and Mudkip?

No, they happened to be my first starters for both games, as well as Squirtle, and Piplup.

[JimmyKane]

Water starters are generally the best. Though I haven't replayed Pearl yet as anything else (Torterra looks pretty ****ing sweet). The big exception is Red/Blue. Charizard can't be beat.

[Bokracroc]

Isn't Totodile the hardest starter in GSC?

Derp, not wait, that was the Grass thing, cause the bird gym is first right?

[Blob]

Isn't Totodile the hardest starter in GSC?

Derp, not wait, that was the Grass thing, cause the bird gym is first right?

I picked Totodile this time and I havent had to use any other pokemon yet. Just finished my 5th badge. Granted im just rushing through johto so i can move my pokemon over from Diamond and start going through the battle frontier and Pokethlon.

[Bokracroc]

I'm obliged to pick Totodile.
It's the one I chose when I played the dodgy barely-started translation of Gold on a GBC emulator.
Also the Bite move is bitching.

[Nic Xtreme]

Shit yeah Cyndaquil is taking names. Not sure what team to build up through the game for the Elite 4 though...maybe I'll catch a Slowpoke...or a Shellder. I have this problem every time I start a Pokemon game - all I want are water Pokemon <_<

[Blob]

Shit yeah Cyndaquil is taking names. Not sure what team to build up through the game for the Elite 4 though...maybe I'll catch a Slowpoke...or a Shellder. I have this problem every time I start a Pokemon game - all I want are water Pokemon <_<

There are enough waters out there that you can quite comfortably make a team that will cover all bases using water types.

[Nic Xtreme]

There are enough waters out there that you can quite comfortably make a team that will cover all bases using water types.

True, but some of them I want I can't get till quite far in. Plus, I really enjoy this non-EV/IV-anal journey to the Elite 4 and I try to get as many NU/UU pokes as I can - things I'd *never* normally use!

[Blob]

True, but some of them I want I can't get till quite far in. Plus, I really enjoy this non-EV/IV-anal journey to the Elite 4 and I try to get as many NU/UU pokes as I can - things I'd *never* normally use!

Ah the non Anal EV/IV adventure. Would be nice but my Totodile came with an adament nature and im dissapointed that im having to use to get through the game as opposed to turning it into a properly trained beast.

[Bokracroc]

Ahh, the nature junk.
I got Modest with my Totodile.

[Citizen Erased]

How the hell has Nintendo gotten away with making us pay for that same game we have played for years now ?

[SOX]

Shit yeah Cyndaquil is taking names. Not sure what team to build up through the game for the Elite 4 though...maybe I'll catch a Slowpoke...or a Shellder. I have this problem every time I start a Pokemon game - all I want are water Pokemon <_<

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/9/2010/03/a0848e92c035e48a2de5f06af13f60b3/original.png

[FX-GTZ]

I think im gonna play at the same pace back when i played the oringal Pokemon Gold, which was around 2 hours at a time per day. When i played the last Pokemon Diamond, it was pretty dull playing it through for hours on end, and not really taking your time to explore and look at the tiddybits in cities and caverns/etc.

[Bokracroc]

Shitdamn, when do you get to use the Pokewalker thing? I can totally use the thing while I'm at work (85% of my job involves walking around).

[SOX]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/9/2010/03/8b069e2c198bb08781832c15e7361376/original.png

[FrozenSoul80]

Shitdamn, when do you get to use the Pokewalker thing? I can totally use the thing while I'm at work (85% of my job involves walking around).

As soon as you put a Pokemon in a PC box. I've been running around with a Slowpoke today. No idea what running around actually does to it, but I've been using it anyway >_>

[Nic Xtreme]

Shitdamn, when do you get to use the Pokewalker thing? I can totally use the thing while I'm at work (85% of my job involves walking around).

Mine's on at work too. How sad that many kids these days ask "What is thaaat?" to a Red and White coloured ball! IT CAN ONLY BE ONE THING OK!!!!!11

[Bokracroc]

Mine's on at work too. How sad that many kids these days ask "What is thaaat?" to a Red and White coloured ball! IT CAN ONLY BE ONE THING OK!!!!!11
Are you serious? They have not idea what a Pokeball looks like?
Children these days with the rap music and all the hippin' and the hoppin' and the bippin' and the boppin', they don't know what the Pokeymans is all about!

[FrozenSoul80]

Yeah, that's kinda sad. Kids these days have it really rough, nothing designed for them is cool any more :(

[Ninjalada]

On D/P when you lose you white out, and go back to a Pokemon Center, losing only a little bit of your money. Didn't this happen, or did you just hit reset?

I could had have just taken the loss but I would not be able to live with myself having lost to ***face.

I eventually got him by using my Flaaffy to parylize and flash his Bayleaf.

Shitdamn, when do you get to use the Pokewalker thing? I can totally use the thing while I'm at work (85% of my job involves walking around).

Same for me, my job is basically walking around for 8 hours. I havn't been bothered to set up the pokewalker yet though.

[Jickle]

My level 15 Stantler almost took out Omar's* full-health, paralyzed, Level 22 Bayleef. Stantler is awesome.

*I named my rival Omar. OMAR COMIN'.

[Bokracroc]

I called my rival JimLee cause he looks half-Asian.

[Spazzallo]

Elite 4 down! Though I'm disappointed how easy it was =/. Team of Alakazam and Feraligatr both level 45 along with a Dragonair and Pidgeot both at level 40 to take out easy pokemon (didn't need them but they're lagging behind in levels so figured I'd give them some xp) were enough to wipe them all out. Ah well, guess they'll be harder when I take them on with 16 badges.

[Nic Xtreme]

I just spent two hours at that Voltorb game corner game. So...addictive... <_<

[FrozenSoul80]

I called my rival JimLee cause he looks half-Asian.

I've always called my rival Gary in every Pokemon game. I'm not entirely sure why, maybe I just subconsciously hate all Gary's?

I just spent two hours at that Voltorb game corner game. So...addictive... <_<

I miss the old slot machine and card games. I can't believe they removed the whole Game Corner :(

[BB2K]

I have a red Gyarados. Apparently they're all the rage.

Get it?

[Ninjalada]

I just spent two hours at that Voltorb game corner game. So...addictive... <_<

**** Mr Game and his bullshit, I tried it about 10 times and got 0 coins. At least 6 of those times I got a Voltorb on the very first card.

[Nic Xtreme]

Mr. Game is waaaay better than any Game Corner! It's logic, doesn't cost you anything, and has nothing to do with chance (well, I was having trouble logically thinking my way through Level 7 <_<). Good times!

Though I also wish you could buy coins...I'm going to have to transfer over Thunderbolt/Ice Beam/Flamethrower from Diamond :/

[FrozenSoul80]

Don't get me wrong, the new game is good, but I wish the old Game Corner was still there. I don't want them taking stuff away :(

[Mr Pie]

Nintendo probably took out the original game corner because parents complained about the gambling references...

[Clift]

Picked up SoulSilver today, really enjoying going through it all over again! :p

I still haven't finished Diamond, so this may delay that even longer. :p

[FrozenSoul80]

Have they removed customising your bedroom?

[Blob]

So the pokewalker can only raise the pokemon 1 level at a time?

[Bokracroc]

So the pokewalker can only raise the pokemon 1 level at a time?
Yeah.
I clocked around 1200+ steps at work today. 1 level.
I clocked only 300 steps yesterday. 1 level.
:mad:

Good for catching Pokemon all easy like though.

[FrozenSoul80]

Yeah.
I clocked around 1200+ steps at work today. 1 level.
I clocked only 300 steps yesterday. 1 level.
:mad:

Good for catching Pokemon all easy like though.

Yeah, that's kinda shit. That's not going to help get me exercising, Nintendo!

[Blob]

Yeah.
I clocked around 1200+ steps at work today. 1 level.
I clocked only 300 steps yesterday. 1 level.
:mad:

Good for catching Pokemon all easy like though.

Granted once you reach a high enough level the 10,000 steps a day will only raise it one level anyway. Still kind of annoying though.

[Jickle]

It's to stop you from sticking the thing in an industrial paint-can shaker and getting your Pokemans up to Level 100.

[Nic Xtreme]

The Pokewalker isn't about levelling - the instruction manual says it "might" raise your Poke by one level (that's all!). It doesn't work like the daycare centre, it's for catching rare and unobtainable Pokemon:

http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/pokewalker-area.shtml

http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/pokewalker-pkmn.shtml

It's also for getting awesome Pokemon early: KANGASKHAN <3

[Blob]

it's for catching rare and unobtainable Pokemon:


Somewhat useless to me. If only it was like the daycare could take a lot of the tedium out of leveling up to 100.

[Ninjalada]

I gots me a Growlithe, it was sure hard to find and even harder to catch because of it's Roar move.

***face's Bayleaf is going down.

[Spazzallo]

So I spent about 3-4 hours yesterday earning enough points in voltorb flip to buy myself an Eevee... only to find out that you can get a free one from Bill! :(

[Nic Xtreme]

So I spent about 3-4 hours yesterday earning enough points in voltorb flip to buy myself an Eevee... only to find out that you can get a free one from Bill! :(

:O is there another game corner where I can get Eevee? I only saw Abra, Sandshrew and Dratini!

[Spazzallo]

Kanto region :). Costs 6666 coins >_<. Guess I'll chuck it towards a Thunderbolt TM for my Dragonair.

Does anyone know if there's a chance of gift pokemon being female? I'd much rather my Eevee be female for obvious reasons.

[BB2K]

Or, you know, you could get a Ditto from the Safari Zone.

[Mr Pie]

Might i ask if it is worth getting?

[FrozenSoul80]

Might i ask if it is worth getting?

Ditto or the game?

Ditto is always handy for breeding.

-Or-

**** yes, buy the game now. Easily the best Pokemon game ever.

[Ninjalada]

Ok I'm pretty sure that Morty (Ecruteak gym leader) is impossible to beat. His Gengar just OHK's all 6 of my pokemon with Shadow Ball.

[Mr Pie]

Get some Darkness!

[Ninjalada]

Get some Darkness!

Yeah both my Growlithe and Croconaw know Bite but they never get a chance to use it because the Gengar always moves first and kills in one hit with Shadow Ball.

[Mr Pie]

Do you have one of dem quick claws?

[Queenie]

l2grind

[Spazzallo]

Or, you know, you could get a Ditto from the Safari Zone.

All good, the third one I picked up from Bill (good old on/off button) was female :).

[Ninjalada]

l2grind

Wow, thanks for the super-helpful tip!

Anyway, I got the Gengar by using Togetic to put it to sleep with Yawn and then kill it with Extrasensory.

[9warbane]

I usually defeat all the trainers on route 38, 29 and 42 then take on the gym.

Quilava (Firey) had no trouble. :p

[FX-GTZ]

So i broke my promise and just played the game flat out for a whole day, the time says i've been going for 26 hours + (8 badges, trying to take on the elite four with a bunch of level 34's to 40 pokemon)

My main pokemon party is only 5 pokemon atm, i want to grab all the creatures i had back on Pokemon gold, which is Doduo, Raticate, Feraligatr, Ampharos, Graveler, and the 5th im still deciding on.

[BB2K]

****ing catching a Larvitar in the ****ing Safari Zone is ****ing hard.

[Nic Xtreme]

My sexy team of Typhlosion/Ampharos/Shellder is hauling ass! I'm doing the Rocket Base thing at Lake Rage atm! THIS GAME IS AWESOME <3

[Gutsman Heavy]

gots a Miltank & Exeggcute. Life is good.

[dimorphic]

Gave in and bought a DSi (Black) and Heart Gold. Loving it, first Pokemon game I've played since Yellow.

[FX-GTZ]

The only thing you probably wont like is the amount of pokebolls you go through trying to catch all 254/ish pokemon.

[Kasplatza Red]

YAY my copy of HeartGold finally came in! =3
...why is my Totodile concerned about my mum?

[Ninjalada]

...why is my Totodile concerned about my mum?

Cause I used my Horn Drill on her!

[Rambo]

If you check his items you can see that Totodile starts off with VD.

EDIT: ****ing Ninjas.

[Bokracroc]

Miltank is the biggest hack-fight ever. It either Rollouts or Stomps on your head making you flinch 100% of the time yet never got poisoned from my Nidorino with Poison Point.
Either way I Double-Kicked that fatarsed cow on the udder so many times it will be seeping blood instead of milk.

[Spazzallo]

I don't know if I should train a Houndoom or Charizard :(. The only dark move my team has is my Feraligatr's Crunch and I need a fire pokemon and with Charizard I can give my Pidgeot the arse. And it's a friggin Charizard! ><

[Jickle]

And it's a friggin Charizard! ><

There's your answer.

[FrozenSoul80]

Miltank is the biggest hack-fight ever. It either Rollouts or Stomps on your head making you flinch 100% of the time yet never got poisoned from my Nidorino with Poison Point.
Either way I Double-Kicked that fatarsed cow on the udder so many times it will be seeping blood instead of milk.

Yeah, that Miltank fight was a bitch for me, too. I only had junk Pokemon left by the end of it so I was forced to use sand attack, potions and patience until it destroyed itself with struggle.

[FX-GTZ]

I don't know if I should train a Houndoom or Charizard :(. The only dark move my team has is my Feraligatr's Crunch and I need a fire pokemon and with Charizard I can give my Pidgeot the arse. And it's a friggin Charizard! ><
Screw Charizard, isnt he Fire/Flying? Flying is gonna let you down way more in battles than fire ever will. Go for a pokemon that is just Fire type and nothing else. Magmar is is pretty handy.

[Spazzallo]

Screw Charizard, isnt he Fire/Flying? Flying is gonna let you down way more in battles than fire ever will. Go for a pokemon that is just Fire type and nothing else. Magmar is is pretty handy.

Yep but I need a dark Pokemon too which is where Houndoom would come in handy. I can't think of any good Dark Pokemon off the top of my head (only Umbreon, but that's too defence focussed for me). Any suggestions?

[BB2K]

I really wonder how people in the Pokemon world who aren't trainers get around. There doesn't seem to be any kind of cars or trains or planes. I mean, if you lived there, you'd pretty much need to defeat some of the Gym leaders to get anywhere. What if you didn't want to be a trainer? Stupid Pokemon.

[Mr Pie]

I can see the headlines now.

Pikachu killed by speeding driver, Ash Ketchum to sue for millions.

Today at 7:30 Pm Ash Ketchums Pikachu (Presumed to be Level 100) was run over by non other than Team Rockets James, who had given up trying to capture Pikachu for Giovanni (and the fact that Jessie died) and had been dabbing in illegal drugs such as marijuana and cocaine. Ash was interviewed today "I...I, just wish I hadn't had that fight with Pikachu over who got the last meatball, but Brock's cooking was sooo good, and Pikachu does shit all around the house to help... I MISS HIM SO MUCH!"
James (who's last name is unknown) was also presumed to be under the influence of alcohol when he hit Pikachu.
Little was known about his girlfriend Jessie, who was presumed to be killed in one of their "Team Rocket is blasting off again" moments.

Story continued on page 3...

[AranchineD]

I really wonder how people in the Pokemon world who aren't trainers get around. There doesn't seem to be any kind of cars or trains or planes. I mean, if you lived there, you'd pretty much need to defeat some of the Gym leaders to get anywhere. What if you didn't want to be a trainer? Stupid Pokemon.

-Magnet Train
-S.S. Anne
-S.S. Aqua
-Bicycle and motorbike transport (evidence: your own bike and 'Biker' trainers)
-Trucks (evidence: by Mew's truck in the original game)
-Cars (evidence: numerous episodes in the anime series)


I hope this has been an enlightening experience for you.

[FX-GTZ]

What so they all drive in the one truck or something?

[BB2K]

-Magnet Train
-S.S. Anne
-S.S. Aqua
-Bicycle and motorbike transport (evidence: your own bike and 'Biker' trainers)
-Trucks (evidence: by Mew's truck in the original game)
-Cars (evidence: numerous episodes in the anime series)


I hope this has been an enlightening experience for you.

-I have never heard of the Magnet Train, so that can just **** off.
-That is a boat, it cannot drive on land.
-See above.
-The only other people riding bikes are also trainers.
-There is one truck, and it is never seen being driven and is presumbly an easter egg.
-Anime series does not count in cannon, fgt.

In related news, I just grinded for a couple of hours to get all my Pokemon to lvl 40 for the Elite 4.

[Mr Pie]

I wonder if Nintendo will ever make a Pokemon that goes through all regions. Kanto Johto and the other 2.

[Spazzallo]

I wonder if Nintendo will ever make a Pokemon that goes through all regions. Kanto Johto and the other 2.

Do this in a turn based MMO and you have the greatest game ever created. Choose your region and represent it...

Ah, pointless dreams :mad: