Hyper Online Motorsports Organisation

[Clockw0rk]

So, the 24 hours of Nurburgring is this weekend which would make a pretty good time for a revival, but there's a lot of us (myself included) who still don't have live Gold. To give folks time to renew their subscriptions and get some practice in, we'll hold 2009's first official Sunday Forza next week.

Main race:
Hyperactive M3 Classic - stock BMW M3 E46, 5 laps of the Nurburgring. ABS only, all other assists off. The 2009 prize car will be unveiled shortly before the event.

Warmup races:
B-Class open - Maple Valley, 4 laps. Bring your best B-class tunes and show us what you've got! All assists off for this one.

More warmup races will be added as people suggest them. The main race will start at approximately 8pm AEST as usual :)

See you there!

[TrinityJayOne]

I'm working that day, but I should be able to make it home for an 8pm start.

[Surgeon.]

I'll need to pick up a gold membership renewal, but yeah . . . I'm in.

Pretty sure we used the BMW M3 (E46) Coupe last time, and I think we only did 5 laps.

[Lazlow]

Speaking of which, drove passed an E46 M3 today... red, but it was still awesome.

[Surgeon.]

Surely Hiredman, Shorty, turb06 etc are up for this?

[HiredMan]

Aw jeah! :)

[Clockw0rk]

Sorted a car and tune for the prize, just working on a paintjob now.

[Lazlow]

ftr, I'm down, barring any connection gremlins. :D

[HiredMan]

I think I'll set the 'Lil Bastard to B-class tune. Y'all better watch out :D

[Clockw0rk]

Here's an early look at this year's prize car:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3058/bimmer.jpg
The tune is done, it's an A850 drift setup I got from the Forza community site. Handles beautifully at high speeds. The paintjob is a work in progress so it'll no doubt get a few tweaks before Sunday night.

[TrinityJayOne]

Love your work, as always.

[Surgeon.]

Here's an early look at this year's prize car:


Love it!

Oh, and thanks for letting me think that next Monday is Queens Birthday weekend. I've been telling everyone that it's next Monday and only just noticed that it only applies in NZ. Australia is the following Monday.

Lousy Queen wanting multiple birthdays. :p

[StorminNorman]

Hilariously, her actual birthday is in April.

I might let my Dad know about this, although I'm not sure if he'll be able to participate.

[Clockw0rk]

Wooop! Got my gold subscription today. That Major Nelson Mustang finally downloaded, and I've planned out the rest of the livery changes for the BMW. Also I've 100% finished arcade mode, so that's another 4 achievements worth 115 gamerpoints. I've put a car up for auction too, so we'll see how that pans out.

Roll on Sunday!

[TrinityJayOne]

http://members.iinet.net.au/~trinityjayone/lasers.jpg

A random design I whipped up today. The different panels of the E46 are split into annoying sections and that stopped me from doing lasers over the whole thing, too difficult to line it all up.

[Clockw0rk]

We've got a party on tonight, I'll be playing Forza in a room full of drunk people. Good times :)

Am I right in assuming that 8:30 is a little over 2 hours away for you guys?

[HiredMan]

I don't think I'll make it tonight, had a pretty massive weekend and don't have the energy for racing. I'm up for the next one though.

[TrinityJayOne]

8pm is in just slightly over an hour.

Poor form, OldMan! :D

[Lazlow]

Making 8pm, will be touch and go... >_>

Are you running the BMW race first or the ClassB? EDIT: scratch that, I've got a B sorted!

[HiredMan]

Poor form, OldMan! :D

Tell me about it..... I had to call an end to the drinking at only 3am this morning :(

[Clockw0rk]

I'm tossing up between my Audi Quattro and my Mugen Integra for the Maple Valley race. The Quattro is a generic grip tune and is super quick, but the Integra is tuned specifically for Maple Valley and held the top time for several weeks (not set by me). Unfortunately since it's a time attack car it can't really race properly until the tyres heat up.

[Clockw0rk]

Too much drunken revelry in the lounge, unsure if I can make it.

[Lazlow]

Dunno why I couldn't initially connect. It was fine, and then the net dropped out altogether. So I just restarted everything (modem, xbox), and it connected fine.

By then the E46 race had started, but the bastard telemetry doesn't tell you what lap you're running.

Oh well, I suck at the Ring anyway.

Did better than I thought I would with the TK Subaru though in the B Class race. :D

[Surgeon.]

Pretty awesome night of forza-ing.

Trin took the lead pretty early in the main event and apart from a couple lead changes, I basically spent 4 laps staring at Trins rear end. Even with the help of my super pit strategy which allowed me to enter in second and come out first, I came in second about 5 seconds behind Trin with Shorty bringing up the rear.

Maple valley race went better. My hax 'blue edition' pug 206 defeated Clockworks Quattro.

Laguna Seca also went well. Accoring to Clockwork, it's hard to drive when people walk in-front of your tv screen. :p Laz should have won purely on car choice. Go Silvia!

Road America . . . . us fools were destroyed by Clockwork, despite having people throwing random bottlecaps/pillows/junk at him.


I'll go through and capture some video footage tomorrow and hopefully have a compilation of all races up later in the week.

[Lazlow]

Laz should have won purely on car choice. Go Silvia!


I picked it, forgetting it was setup for drifting :cool:

Thinking I might clean out my garage and start over though. Every time we do these things there's just more and more cars I don't use or were failed experiments.

One thing I hope they do with F3, is give you the ability to sort your cars by make/drivetrain/class. F***ing annoying having to scroll through a long line of cars.

[Clockw0rk]

Yeah, I spun out early on the Nurburgring (as always) leaving Shorty, Trin and Surgeon to battle it out while I tried to act a bit less anti-social seeing as there was a loud party going on all around me.

I jumped back in for the Maple Valley race, thinking my super-fast Quattro (it runs 58s at Tsukuba) would destroy the competition. Sadly, Surgeon's insane Pug stuck right on my tail for the first two laps and passed me on the third, ending up 150 metres ahead by the end. That thing was insane.

After that, I got the chance to show off my Heaven/Hell Evo 10, which kept a tidy lead for most of the race until my flatmate stood in front of the goddamn television on the final corner of lap 3, sending me off the track and giving Surgeon a decent lead. My attempt to take an inside line on the first corner and out-brake him was foolish, and he stayed ahead for the rest of the lap.

As for Road America...
A bottle cap war had broken out between the drunkards in my living room, which escalated to the point where there were bottle caps, cushions and playing cards flying everywhere, making driving a nightmare. Thanks to my incredibly well-tuned AWE Audi S4, I managed a solid first place by over 1km. It would have been 2km if it weren't for those meddling kids!


Overall, it was a great night. The prize car has gone to Trin for the week, and I'm looking forward to next week's races.

[Lazlow]

Managed to clean out half my garage... still a lot of shit in there BUT I CAN'T LET GO OF THE ELAN!

Most it was prize cars I never used.

[Clockw0rk]

Thanks for the Pug, Surgeon! I built up an S4 and gifted it to you (cost around $350,000 for the car and all the parts btw). Hope you like the paint job.
Trin - about the prize car, can you gift it back so I can save the paintjob to my design catalogue? It'll take me 5 minutes, I just forgot to do it before I sent it :(

[Surgeon.]

Sunday Night Forza 2009 - Queen's Birthday Bash Footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWJJNtw0Rq0&fmt=18)

Finally got around to capturing some footage from the main race. Kept with the JK soundtrack, so too bad if you don't like him. My favorite bit is at about 3:16. I think Trin spins out infront of me, and misses Shorty and I by what looks like centimeters. :)

Not sure if I'll make a compilation from the other races. It's a bit of a pain to capture, and takes way too long to compile.

[Sweating Bullets]

Just wondering if I should start playing this? Or is it too late for me to catch up and just wait for Forza 3?

[Surgeon.]

Just wondering if I should start playing this? Or is it too late for me to catch up and just wait for Forza 3?

Hard to say. We do tend to race fairly competitively, with assists off. Do you have the game already?

Who'd be up for a STI vs EVO tuned race around laguna seca this Sunday? Clockwork and I want a rematch, without a party in the background. :p

[HiredMan]

Yeah I'll most likely be up for that.

[Sweating Bullets]

Hard to say. We do tend to race fairly competitively, with assists off. Do you have the game already?


I got it with my Xbox about a year or so ago - I got that double pack with Viva Pinata.

I currently own Burnout Paradise and think it's very fun for an arcade racer but just lacks licensed cars.

I have Midnight Club: LA but that is still in the shrink wrapping. And it is on my to get back to games.

Looking at Forza 3 - I am very impressed with the supposed in-game (I still call antics on it) and might get it when it comes out.

[HiredMan]

If you've already got Forza 2 theres no reason not to get into it before F3 comes out. It's a great game.

[Tonez]

I got it with my Xbox about a year or so ago - I got that double pack with Viva Pinata.

I currently own Burnout Paradise and think it's very fun for an arcade racer but just lacks licensed cars.

I have Midnight Club: LA but that is still in the shrink wrapping. And it is on my to get back to games.

Looking at Forza 3 - I am very impressed with the supposed in-game (I still call antics on it) and might get it when it comes out.

CLICKY LINKY (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/06/three-consoles-three-screens-motion-sickness/)

I'd say the fact they had a playable demot at E3 would suggest the graphics were actually in-game.

[Lazlow]

JOIN US SB!!

I need someone who can keep up with my pace at the 'ring! :D

[Clockw0rk]

Who'd be up for a STI vs EVO tuned race around laguna seca this Sunday? Clockwork and I want a rematch, without a party in the background. :p
I will DESTROY YOU.

[TrinityJayOne]

Thanks for the Pug, Surgeon! I built up an S4 and gifted it to you (cost around $350,000 for the car and all the parts btw). Hope you like the paint job.
Trin - about the prize car, can you gift it back so I can save the paintjob to my design catalogue? It'll take me 5 minutes, I just forgot to do it before I sent it :(
Hey no problem! You can have it back as soon as you win a race. :P

[Clockw0rk]

Wait, so I have to win back the car I bought, tuned, and painted myself, just to get the paintjob? Harsh, man.

See you Sunday. What you bringing?

[Sweating Bullets]

Cool thanks for the info guys.
Looks like I will try to fit it into the gaming schedule :)

[TrinityJayOne]

Wait, so I have to win back the car I bought, tuned, and painted myself, just to get the paintjob? Harsh, man.

See you Sunday. What you bringing?
Nah, sent it back earlier. :D

I'll likely drive an STi but that could change.

[Surgeon.]

I will DESTROY YOU.

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7548/59923044.jpg

I hoping that in a freak coincidence, your flatmate will walk in front of the tv again at a pivotal moment.

Also, the winner of the evo vs sti event can choose the music for the inevitable youtube video I'll make of the race . . . . Heaps better than some lame clockwork plaintjob! :p

[Lazlow]

I'll probably use an Evo to mix things up.

[Clockw0rk]

Also, the winner of the evo vs sti event can choose the music for the inevitable youtube video I'll make of the race . . . . Heaps better than some lame clockwork plaintjob! :p
I hope you'll enjoy my original recording of "Surgeon Sucks at Forza" :P And as for paintjobs, have you checked out your new S4 yet?

With regards to the race, are we increasing the number of laps at all? 6 could be better than 4 if this is to be the main race.

A couple of other races I'd like to suggest are a D400 sprint round Road Atlanta short (maybe 10 laps?) and something fun on New York, since we haven't raced that track for a long time.

[Lazlow]

Old school muscle around New York?

The heavy braking makes for some hairy moments :D

[Clockw0rk]

Shit yeah, I'm down for that. A850?

[Lazlow]

Want to include the 1969 Toyota 2000GT and 1969 Nissan Fairlady Z 432 as well? >_>

[Clockw0rk]

Only if I can drive a Buick Regal.

[TrinityJayOne]

Those cars sound good, but A850 muscle cars?! :P They're hairy enough at 700PI but I'm still willing to lay down some rubber.

What PI are we going for on the STi vs Evo race?

[Clockw0rk]

A850, same as last week. Rematch is ON :p
Can drop the muscle down to B700 if you'd rather, I've got a nicely tuned Challenger that's more than happy to kick your asses. I'm just keen for a chance to cut the Regal loose :D

[Rypien GT]

Gday lads.

Good to see some Hyper fans having some good fun laps. I've only recently started to get into Forza 2 for a bit of fun (i mainly run with the Gran Turismo series and Live For Speed on PC). Dont have a wheel set up for the 360, but Forza isnt too bad to play with the joypad and i'm slowly getting a bit quicker (but still pretty slow so you guys have no worries).

I might try and make some races if i can wrangle Sunday off work. But even if i cant race with you guys Sunday, i'll definately try again another time.

Anyone got a tune they could send my way for either the Subie or Evo as i dont have many tunes and just enjoy having a crack with arcade cars mostly.

btw- cool vid of the Nurburgring racing. Gotta luv the green hell ;)

[Lazlow]

Live For Speed on PC

rFactor or DIE! :D

TBH I've been wanting to check out LFS, I saw a video on youtube once demonstrating the awesome tyre deformation physics in the engine.

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[HiredMan]

Hey Rypien, I haven't seen you since the GT4 thread! Hows trix?

[Rypien GT]

Been good ;)

I've been busy playing Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, but i've shelved the PS3 until the full version of GT5 comes out. And looking at the E3 info and vids GT5 looks pretty darn impressive http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2uQ2ayvvWY . I'm still heavily involved in the GT community but am just having a bit of a wee break to recharge the batteries.

Decided to have some fun with Forza 2 and have found it quite enjoyable. Painting up cars is good fun, and i've got a couple of mates who play a bit so we have been doing a few races in between Halo3 sessions.

I've got rfactor as well, but in all honesty i much prefer Live for Speed. Some of the mods for rFactor are amazing though. This is why i play LFS - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAvj0iY1Zig

btw - looks like i cant make the Forza races this Sunday, but i'll follow the threads at this forum and see if i can hook up with you blokes sometime soon.

[Lazlow]

Some of the mods for rFactor are amazing though

F1 79/88 Mods own. As does the 94/95 Indy mod. :D

[Lazlow]

Decided on an Evo 6 GSR. Now to see if I can be more punctual this time.

[Clockw0rk]

I'm having a hard time choosing, seeing as I've got ALL THE CARS IN THE GAME AT THE SAME TIME.

...Actually I'll be racing the Heaven/Hell Evo X again. Still, all the cars is sweet. Got most of them off a friend who's already done it and never wants to play Forza ever again. He drove the same R1 enduro about 50 times to get enough cash.

[Surgeon.]

I hope you'll enjoy my original recording of "Surgeon Sucks at Forza" :P And as for paintjobs, have you checked out your new S4 yet?


It might be worth losing just to hear you sing. NEW ZEALAND hip hop, stand the **** up right?

Yeah, finally got around to collecting the S4. I approve. :p

Just don't try selling that on the AH or you'll end up with a one week ban like I did some time back.

[Clockw0rk]

I bought it on the auction house. I've managed to find a lot of anime girls with their tits out, and some other pretty risque stuff.
That naked playmate actually appears on a lot of cars, I think she's been doing the rounds for a while.



















...Like your Mum :p


EDIT: I'm capped. Dialup speeds until next Sunday, so we'll see how the races go but don't be surprised if I can't race due to lag. Had a go with Trin today and it wasn't terrible, but with a grid of 4 or 5 that could change. Anyway, my cars are all sorted for tonight. Got a new STi that's bloody quick but I'll probably still drive the Evo to make it a proper rematch, and my A850 Buick has 736kw and 1,050nm of torque. FEAR IT. Will be taking a Renault 5 Turbo round Road America Short, it's not good on the straight but powers through everything else without needing brakes.

[Lazlow]

I'll probably late to the show, old man just loves to cook late. >_<

I've got an Evo 6 set up so I'd love to run it, other races I'm indifferent about :D

EDIT: Should only be about 20 minutes

[TrinityJayOne]

All good, we'll do random races til then! No Shorty tonight? :confused:

[Lazlow]

Tonight's lesson; I can't set a gearbox up for shit >_<

and possibly drive cleanly under pressure >_>

[Clockw0rk]

Tonight's lesson:


YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAH BOI! SUCK IT, AUSFAILIA


New Zealand proved once again that we are the greater nation. Flat-out undisputed victories on both Laguna Seca and Road Atlanta Short, though my grip-tuned challenger couldn't keep up with Surgeon's monster on the New York straights.

Surgeon has the choice of either Scribe's "Stand Up" or "Back on the Rocks" from the Initial D soundtrack for the replays. I'll post up next week's races later on.

[Lazlow]

Out of curiosity, what tyres were people running on their STis/Evos?

New Zealand proved once again that we are the greater nation.

I think I our histories in A1GP confirmed this a while back :p

[Shorty]

Surgeon has the choice of either Scribe's "Stand Up" or "Back on the Rocks" from the Initial D soundtrack for the replays. I'll post up next week's races later on.

I'm voting for this. Sorry I missed it, all.

[Clockw0rk]

All units are in Imperial, change them in the options menu:

Lancer Evo X GSR

BUILD
Engine: Street Engine Block, Sport Fuel System, Sport Ignition, Race Exhaust, Sport Intake
Handling: Race Everything
Wheels: Race Avons, Full Width (265's); Volk CE28N Rims (Stock Size)
Aero: Forza Front Bumper, Forza Rear Wing

TUNE

Tires: 28/28

Gearing:
FD: 5.27
1: 1.97
2: 1.22
3: 0.87
4: 0.67
5: 0.57
6: 0.51

Alignment:
Camber: -0.8/-0.7
Toe: +0.2/+0.1
Caster: 5.5

Anti-Roll: 1.00/40.00

Springs:
Rate: 233.6/295.1
Ride Height: 5.0/5.3

Damping:
Rebound: 6.0/19.5
Bump: 2.2/2.9

Aero: Full Downforce

Brakes: 47/Pressure is Driver Preference (I use 110 with ABS)

Differential:
Front: 20/0
Rear: 41/1
Split: 34/66

Don't say I never did anything nice for you guys.

[Lazlow]

I went with sport tyres on the Evo6 to give me more room to upgrade the engine; I think it worked against me.


I'm voting for this. Sorry I missed it, all.

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[HiredMan]

Yep, Not Many Remix is the music for sure......

"South Auckland raise yo arms! Lemme see you throw it up!"

911 GT3 RS represented on the 'ring tonight :D

EDIT: if you need another tune for the vid, I'd suggest Turbonegro's Stroke the Shaft

[Shorty]

Yeah, I love that remix. Con Psy from Frontline money in his verse and who's gonna argue with Savage in the mix? Great call, guys.

[Lazlow]

Just found an A850 setup for the Evo6 online and I'm now lapping 3secs quicker around LS :p

Makes the car look ugly as sin though.

EDIT: Just got Surgeon's gift car, awesome paint job :D

[Surgeon.]

EDIT: Just got Surgeon's gift car, awesome paint job :D

Thanks. :p Sent it to everyone, although I couldn't be bothered tuning them all to 850.

Good couple of races. First was a tad boring after it became apparent that no one was going to catch Clockwork. Loved the muscle car race (obviously)

Grats to Laz on the R1 race too. Nice victory.


As for the music for the LS race, I did say that I would let the winner choose which means that I'll probably be using 'Inital D:Back on the rocks', unless I can convince him that the 'Not Many Remix' suits the footage better.

As for next week, sounds like it's going to be R1's around the ring.

[Lazlow]

Grats to Laz on the R1 race too. Nice victory.

Heh, after playing rFactor with F1 mods for the last couple of weeks it was a good fit for me :D

That said I did get it a bit hairy when I out-braked myself.

Pretty surprising how good Clockwork's capped connection was. Only noticed the odd jumping on the Ring.

[Lazlow]

Spent tonight setting up some cars properly, big mistake skimping on the Forza aero components. Now have my Evo6 (A850) and Trans Am (B700) setup nicely, and added a Camaro SS (A850)

[Clockw0rk]

Given that there's not a lot of action in the Laguna Seca replay, Scribe seems like a better choice. Back on the Rocks could work for the carnage that was the New York race though, if you're going to do a replay of that one :)


Surgeon sold me on the idea of an R1 Nurburgring race, so if a mod wants to re-title the thread, next week's race will be:


R1NG MADNESS!
5 Laps of the Nurburgring in R1 class cars, ABS on as usual (unless there are objections?) but all other assists off. Fuel and Tyre wear on, so there should be at least one pit stop along the way. Damage off, unless we all want to limp around after the first corner :p
Winner gets the prize car as usual, and maybe a special tune if I'm feeling generous :)

Warmup races will include an R2 showdown on Mugello, and a Rotary Only race on Tsukuba - anything A850, provided it's powered by a rotary engine. I think we should get some exotics in on the action so how about S998 hypercars - Zondas, Koenigseggs, Carrera GTs, Murcielagos and the like. Track suggestions welcome for this one :) For something with a bit more finesse, tune up a C550 (anything goes) and we'll take them round Maple Valley reverse.

We might not get through them all, but at least it gives us something to plan for :)

Tuning will be allowed for the R-class cars, so try your luck if you want to mess with your setups. See you there! 14/06/09, 8pm AEST.

[Surgeon.]

Couple of last nights races.

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[Lazlow]

Rotary Only race on Tsukuba - anything A850, provided it's powered by a rotary engine.


Are specialist tuned cars out (INGS, Ab Flug RX-7s)?

[HiredMan]

****in love your work Surgeon. As always.

[Lazlow]

Also; are there any other rotaries apart from Mazdas? >_>

I don't know dick about rotaries tbh.

[HiredMan]

No-one Except Mazda has made Rotary engines since the 60's.

I'll tune you up an FD with a 20B triple rotor in it Laz. Got yo back n*gga :D

[Shorty]

The 20B is also available for the RX-8.

[Lazlow]

No-one Except Mazda has made Rotary engines since the 60's.

Dang, I was hoping you were able to swap a rotary into something in the game.

I'll tune you up an FD with a 20B triple rotor in it Laz. Got yo back n*gga

Awesome, I'm all outta clams too!

[TrinityJayOne]

Also; are there any other rotaries apart from Mazdas? >_>

I don't know dick about rotaries tbh.
I don't believe so, no. I'm pretty sure that quite a few Mazdas can have the RX7/Cosmo rotaries dumped in them though.

That NY vid is superb, Surgeon! Check out the massive trail of smoke I left at around 2mins. :D


EDIT: Speaking of being outta clams, I just burned 400k~ buying & tuning an LP640, and took my F430 to S998 as well. They're both bloody fast on the Nurburgring, but the LP640 a bit more so as it kills the 430 on the straights. They're also both bastards to handle. :D I'll be tuning a muscle car for the C550 race, not sure about the rotary one.

[Lazlow]

I only watched the STi v Evo vid... how embaressing. For me!

Ghetto and all over the road! :P

[TrinityJayOne]

PS- I vote Road America for the S998 race.

[Lazlow]

I second that!

[Clockw0rk]

Road America sounds good to me!
The AWE S4 isn't an exotic sadly, or I'd be happy to clean up with that. I've got a Gallardo ready to go though, or I might do a Murcielago.

Any car suits for the rotary race (including tuner models), just as long as we get a grid full of cars making that awesome rotary whine I'll be happy.

[HiredMan]

I've got a 20B FD RX-7 I can use for the rotary rumble. Is a tuned Porsche 997 GT2 exotic enough for the other race?

[Rypien GT]

I'm gunna bust my nut to make the grid for the next lot of races.

Love the 'ring' and love anything 'rotary'.

I'll try my best not to cause any accidents. Expect a slow ass speed bump ...... but i'll have fun ;)

[Clockw0rk]

Got my cars sorted - Stock F333 for the R1, slightly tuned Zonda GR for R2, my mega grippy Renault 5 Turbo for C550, RX-7 Gen 3 for rotaries and a Countach LP5000 for the exotics - though I might give an S998 Koenigsegg a shot before the weekend.

[TrinityJayOne]

Is a tuned Porsche 997 GT2 exotic enough for the other race?
Of course!

[Shorty]

Got my cars sorted - Stock F333 for the R1, slightly tuned Zonda GR for R2, my mega grippy Renault 5 Turbo for C550, RX-7 Gen 3 for rotaries and a Countach LP5000 for the exotics - though I might give an S998 Koenigsegg a shot before the weekend.

That's a lot of cars. I'm gonna need to get crackin' and earn some credits.

[TrinityJayOne]

That's a lot of cars. I'm gonna need to get crackin' and earn some credits.
I used a B700 FWD on the Maple Valley enduro, hired the shittiest driver with the AI set to easy and left him to it. $100k-ish after 45mins of you doing nothing. :D

[Clockw0rk]

Best way to do that is with the F333 or the R10 TDi, and S. Ito on the Sebring enduro. Even with the difficulty maxed he'll win.

[Lazlow]

Wait... AI drivers >_> I clearly haven't explored this game enough

[Clockw0rk]

In the screen right before you start the race go to hire a driver. They take anywhere from 55% to 100% of your winnings and have varying degrees of skill. An easy way to make money is to get them to grind the higher level enduros for you.

[TrinityJayOne]

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Decided that Maple Valley is not the place for a muscle car, so I tuned a Mitsubishi GTO instead. Such a freakin' graceful drive for something of it's weight (1,700kg for those playing at home). It was a decent lap, 2nd one into the free run to get the tires warmed up, but it could go faster. Forgot to check what the actual time was. :P

Also Youtube was being a slut with the uploading and then viewing of this, so here's a direct link to the MP4 (http://members.iinet.net.au/~trinityjayone/550GTO.mp4) if it gives you troubles.

[Lazlow]

Seems you cross the line at 8secs to start, and 1:51 to finish. So a 1:42/1:43. If the playback speed is accurate. Looks fast either way.

I'm deliberating between more weight for extra power, or light car with less oomph. Either way, my times come out similar, however the lighter option is easier to corner.

[TrinityJayOne]

C550 speeds are pretty tame so a heavy car isn't such a burden on handling as it is in higher classes. Obviously a heavy car can work (see vid :P), but I'd rule out the muscles. I tried a Shelby GT500 and it just couldn't keep the power down. Not enough tuning space to beef up the handling sufficiently, not enough straights to let the engine make up for the poor cornering. Regardless, the only other heavyweights below C550 I can think of are the 2 Mercs...the CLK-something sedan and an AMG coupe I think.

If you're going something lighter, I'd stick to a 4WD or FF as there's a lot of nasty elevation changes right before corners when you go backwards. That lap I did above was one of my less sideways ones, and it's 4WD! :D You'll be in Drift Country driving an FR.

[Clockw0rk]

My Renault 5 works on being light enough to not need brakes, which worked great on Road Atlanta Short so hopefully the same principle will carry over to C550/Maple Valley. It sucks on tracks like New York, but chews up corners without problems. I'll do some laps and post some times tonight.

[Lazlow]

If you're going something lighter, I'd stick to a 4WD or FF as there's a lot of nasty elevation changes right before corners when you go backwards. That lap I did above was one of my less sideways ones, and it's 4WD! :D You'll be in Drift Country driving an FR.

Lancia Delta FTW :D

[Clockw0rk]

If you want to go the low power/lightweight route, try putting full forza kit on and maxing the downforce too, then playing with the suspension from there. Higher spec tyres wouldn't hurt either.
You'd be surprised at how much power you can actually add afterwards, a full Forza kit (or at least front bumper and wing) lowers the PI very quickly but it's essential for a good grip tune.

[Lazlow]

Yeah after the balls up that was my Evo 6, I wont be neglecting the Forza kits any more. Or race tyres.

Might try leaving the engine stock and see if I can't squeeze in the 3rd stage weight reduction.

[TrinityJayOne]

I've only got sports tires on the GTO, and the aero parts are just ricer ones to drop the PI a few points so that I could put in a transmission (the stock ratios are far too long for the engine). Didn't feel that it needs the grip of the Forza parts, plus they tend to look like shite.

[Clockw0rk]

While you're here Trin, can I have the prize car from last week? :p

[Lazlow]

Think I've got this Lancia dialed in as well as I can get it. Can sit on full throttle for about 90% of the lap and only have to make about 2-3 gear changes.

[TrinityJayOne]

That sounds bloody quick, unless it's peaking at 80km/h or something. :P

I meant to send the car to you earlier, Clockwork, but I got distracted catching up with some papery friends that I've Rarely seen these past few months. :D

[Lazlow]

Tops out at 125mp/h on the softer downhill bend on the back straight. Spend most of the lap hovering between 80-110mp/h

[TrinityJayOne]

What times were you hitting? Also I'm just curious here, why imperial?

[Lazlow]

I was harvesting drift setups off the net a while back, and they're all imperial. Heck, everytime I go to look for some setups to tinker with they're all imperial. Just cbf switching it back.

Best time I've done so far was a 1:41.200 on a 3rd lap. So not really much faster than your vid.

[Lazlow]

I think we should get some exotics in on the action so how about S998 hypercars - Zondas, Koenigseggs, Carrera GTs, Murcielagos and the like.

Sure hope the Nissan R390 counts (there were 2 road going versions made >_>) because I've got it set and I love it :D

Also have an R8 tuned up as well, and while its accelerates better and has a higher top speed, its braking distances are much longer and it doesn't turn as well.

[Clockw0rk]

Hell yes the R390 counts. That's the sort of cars I was aiming for with the race, fewer supercars and more Hypercars - McLaren F1s, Ferrari F50s and such. They're expensive though, so any supercar will do :). The R8 is really hard to tune well - the Forza 3 version that they auctioned off during E3 is the first one I've driven that doesn't handle like a brick, I considered racing it but decided to go for something RWD and a bit more exotic.

I've been finalising my cars and getting my liveries together - my car lineup has changed slightly too, I'm running an R10 on the 'ring and a Porsche GT1 on Mugello. I'm deciding whether or not to change the R5 for something else, and I'm looking at a McLaren F1 for Road America. Mikewazowski should be in tonight too, if he gets Live Gold today.

RX-7 is done though, here's the paintjob:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1898/rx7q.jpg

EDIT:
Mikewazowski is in, barring any unforseen connection issues. In celebration of his return to Sunday Forza, I present to you:

Team New Zealand 2009!
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7223/nzracing.jpg
We're both running Silvias for the C550s, I'm in the S14 and he's got the S13.

Here's my ride for the exotics:
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/8207/clockymclaren.jpg
It's a bit quicker than Mike's Koenigsegg but has to brake earlier for the corners. Looking forward to tonight's race - 8pm AEST as usual :)

Oh, and it'll be 5 laps for R1s, I reckon 5 laps for the rotaries is good too since Tsukuba is pretty short. How does 4 laps for R2s and C550s, and 3 laps for the exotics sound?

[HiredMan]

That's..... awesome.

I'll probably do a rush job with my tunes for tonight so probably wont be very quick, but should be fun. For the hypercar race (seeing as it would probably be a bit inappropriate to use a GT2) I'm actually thinking of ditching the Porsches and using a Ferrari F50 but I'm worried about messing up the handling. The F50 handle's so well in stock tune that it can keep up with hypercars 10 years newer and with 100-150 more bhp than it......

I'll have a bit of a play, might end up using a GT1 or Carrera GT anyways, haha.

[Lazlow]

http://i44.tinypic.com/2moze5c.jpg

:D

[HiredMan]

Somethings come up and I'm not gonna be able to make it :(

Sorry, I'll be in for the next one though.

[Lazlow]

http://i44.tinypic.com/rjjy8h.jpg

I started this mid-week, taking my time. But in the end I got frustrated doing the stripes on the rear section (couldn't get the right curve) and cbf finishing off the Martini logos :(

EDIT: Just sorted out my Rotary, and I'll probably use the stock options for the R1/R2 races, so barring any unforeseen circumstances, I should be good to go.

[Clockw0rk]

I was on track to win the Nurburgring by a pretty wide margin until the third lap when my tires just gave up on me. I couldn't steer out of any corners in the final section, spun out twice and got passed by Surgeon and Trin.

Congrats Surgeon on your win, I look forward to next week's race. The trophy car is yours, and I'll send you an extra car too.

[Lazlow]

Had to bail on the R1 race because the old man was heading off. Couldn't really make him wait another 15-20 minutes for me finish :p

Was hoping I'd catch mike when his tyres went to shit, after he put me into the wall at the hairpin prior to the carousel. But I was a fair way well behind. My best moment was clearly storming into 2nd off the start, but then in my haste to chuck a feedbacking mic (shorty?) off my ear I spun at the pit entry chicane.

Great set of races tonight. I'll have to check that replay to see wtf happened at the start of the C550 race.

[Clockw0rk]

At the start of that C550 race I saw everyone crashing so I thought I'd get in on the action and rammed Shorty. Bit of a shame, I should have used the opportunity to take an early 2nd place.

[Lazlow]

From my replay it looks like mike lagged at the start as everyone else took off fine, and then he suddenly snaps into hyperdrive into the back of my car.

After the impact, he keeps bouncing up and back down the grid. Gets tagged by Clockwork then warps/slingshots into second place.

http://i39.tinypic.com/zx8wnm.jpg

[Clockw0rk]

Wouldn't be surprised if Mike and I were a tad laggy. We're flatmates, so we had two Xboxes going at the same time.

[Lazlow]

I'd upload video, but someone's borrowed our camera, its hell crazy :p

[Surgeon.]

I'd upload video, but someone's borrowed our camera, its hell crazy :p

I'll capture some footage tomorrow. That was the race I was planning to upload to youtube anyway.

Some pretty decent racing. Managed to come away with a 1st (although Trin deserved it more), 3 2nds and a 5th

[TrinityJayOne]

I did horribly throughout. :(

Using my LP640 over the F430 for Road America was a horrible choice, I greatly overestimated its ability to take a corner. Strange that it's a blast to drive on the Ring. :confused:

The only race where I had even a remote chance was the R1s, but the GRANDMAS in front of me kept getting scared and braking, then I would swerve to avoid them and run wide. Maybe the 962c is just superior. :D Seriously though, you just gotta put faith in the downforce and plough on through. :P

Ended up very close to Surgeon in 2nd, not bad for a 2 stop strategy!

[Lazlow]

I scored solid 4ths, and a 3rd at Road America. Pretty chuffed to have the fastest lap from that one :D

The only race where I had even a remote chance was the R1s, but the GRANDMAS in front of me kept getting scared and braking, then I would swerve to avoid them and run wide. Maybe the 962c is just superior. Seriously though, you just gotta put faith in the downforce and plough on through.

Yeah, I didn't do any practise runs with the R1s, that Pug is a beast and I was finding you can really floor it through most corners

[TrinityJayOne]

The only difficult thing about driving the 962c is the bloody torque from the turbos. It's all beer & skittles up until about 5,000rpm, then all of a sudden you have 2.3PSI of boost. Gears 1 & 2 are worthless, 3rd isn't much better and even 4th isn't safe from wheelspin if you push hard enough around a turn or hit a bump.

[Shorty]

The only race where I had even a remote chance was the R1s, but the GRANDMAS in front of me kept getting scared and braking, then I would swerve to avoid them and run wide. Maybe the 962c is just superior. :D Seriously though, you just gotta put faith in the downforce and plough on through. :P

'Cause that strategy worked so well on Road America. :p

I won the R2 race (goddamn that S7R is quick), the Hypercar race (FM3 R8 FTW) and the Rotary battle (using a literally last-minute Spirit R build) but lost the C550 race (I blame the car cannon that fired right at the start) and, if I'm not mistaken, netsplit out of the R1ng race. Not a bad run for tonight.

Clockwork was right, though. That Bentley is pretty nice.

[Surgeon.]

Been way to long since my last Trin-inspired motivational poster.

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2003/motivatoraa88c036fcf3b1.jpg

[Clockw0rk]

I'm just not used to R1s, I'd need a few more laps before I had the confidence to fang it round corners at ludicrous speeds.
My Audi handled amazingly well and didn't have Trin's boost problems despite running 3 bar thanks to the leaderboard tune (#4 overall I believe) which kept me comfortably ahead, but all 4 tyres were above 90% wear (the rears were at 100%) at the end of lap 3. A better pit strategy would have won it for me.

As for the other races, I managed some of the fastest laps of the night but couldn't keep it consistent. I need to work on my passing.

Looking forward to next week though. Team NZ represent! We should do an enduro on a shorter track, it'll keep the pack closer together which makes things interesting.

then all of a sudden you have 2.3PSI of boost
That's 2.3 Bar, or around 34psi. My Celica runs 12.5psi, so 2.3psi in a race car seems a bit weak :p

[Shorty]

It must be a twin turbo thing because the Bentley Speed 8 has a similar power curve. If you keep the revs high enough you don't really notice it, though.

[HiredMan]

It's also got to do with engine capacity. The 962 has by far the smallest capacity of any of the R1 class cars (2.6l from memory). The bigger engines produce more exhaust gasses and hence spin up the turbos quicker.

[Clockw0rk]

Yeah, the turbo on the R10 spools up pretty fast thanks to the low redline (5500rpm :o).

[HiredMan]

Yeah, the 5.0l+ diesels in the Audi's and Pug's should produce full boost before 2,000rpm.

[Shorty]

Whoops, I deleted my post after you posted that one. Wasn't sure that the lower rev range of the power curve mattered when it came to turbo lag. Does it?

[HiredMan]

Yes, it does. You'll actually find that high bhp diesels will suffer from quite noticeable lag below 1,800 odd rpm, which is also accentuated because they rev much more slowly than petrol engines..

The general rule with lag on petrol engines though is: the smaller the capacity and the bigger the turbo/boost, the more lag you'll get. There are many other factors though.

Porsche (and some other manufacturers, like Volvo) uses variable geometry turbochargers on the 997 Turbo and GT2. These tubochargers have turbine vanes that can change their angle at different engine speeds, effectively behaving like a small turbocharger (which spools quickly for less lag) at low engine speeds and a large turbocharger (which produces big boost/power) at high engine speeds.

The ultimate counter to turbolag though is an anti-lag system (like on Clocky's GT-Four), mainly used in rallying applications so the turbo can remain on full boost even at low rpm. These usually take the form of an extra injector and spark plug plumbed into the exhaust manifold creating combustion and exhaust to keep the tubine spinning, no matter how much exhaust the actual engine is producing. You pretty much only find them in rallying though, as turbocharged track cars dont really need them (a good driver will keep the engine spinning in the powerband anyway), although I've seen some road cars with antilag systems. They basically just sit there backfiring, even at idle :)

[Clockw0rk]

Hiredman explained it a lot better than I was going to.
It's noticeable when you compare my 3S-GTE to the one in my flatmate's Altezza - his redline is 8000rpm instead of my 7000, as a result boost comes on later.

[HiredMan]

I probably should've posted my turbo rants in the Automobile thread :/

[Surgeon.]

One of last nights support races. Enjoy.

0bmZzl2jhvI

[Shorty]

Great. Two great wins last night and he posts the race where I come second last. :p

[Clockw0rk]

You deserve it after your microphone shenanigans at the start of the Nurburgring race.

[Shorty]

I already told you, I had no idea the mic was doing that and it's never done that before.

[Lazlow]

HAHA!

Before I pressed play I was thinking to myself "He better have used Yakety Sax"

:D

Spewing that I outbraked myself and let Clockwork though, but that drag between me and Surgeon was awesome.

[Clockw0rk]

If I'd been on form a bit more last night I could have won it, the S14 beat Mike's S13 in every test race.

[Lazlow]

mrlk if it didn't glitch like a f*** I could have won it :D

So, we giving it a rest this weekend? >_>

[Clockw0rk]

From Mike's point of view, everyone took off at once then Lazlow flew backwards into him.

I don't think we're postponing it, unless everyone has an excuse (Hiredman's running out of them, I'm guessing next week the dog will eat his wheel) I'm still keen to run some races.
I think something on Suzuka would be fun. Also how about an engine capacity limit for one of the races? 2 litres and under or something. Hell, could make it more interesting and give it a 1.8L limit with no forced induction.

[Surgeon.]

Couple ideas.

Heavyweight race? I know the F2 career mode race limits cars to 1746kg. Not sure how many cars fit into this category, and what level you'd want to tune to. A or B i'd guess. Did we ever do the mini race around King Cobra? I remember it was Turb06's idea, but cant' ever remember doing it. Not sure, my 360 might have been RRod at the time.

Also wouldn't mind doing Seabring/Silverstone/Suzuka. Basically tracks we haven't done in a while. We must be neglecting the letter 'S'. :p

Edit - I love Shorty's perspective in that video. Race starts normally . . . Laz drops from the sky in front of him.

[Clockw0rk]

I'm not a fan of Silverstone but love Sebring and Suzuka.
Heavyweights sounds fun, I'll have a look tonight and see how many cars come under that category (seeing as I own every car in the game, woo :p)
I've got a pretty zippy A850 mini tune, I could share it around for a race homologation series round King Cobra?

[Clockw0rk]

I’ve been too busy for Forza this week, I still haven’t booted it up since Sunday. From memory, here are the heavyweights:

2005 Mustang
Cadillac SRT8
Audi S4
Audi S6
A couple of the big Mercedes saloons
Bentley Continental GT
Aston V12
Ferrari 599

There are probably a couple of others, but that gives a good starting list if we’re keen to race them. A850 lets the Ferrari compete and allows for a fair bit of speed. I might bust out the Cadillac for a bit of VIP style, or go for the S4 on mega-cambered rims again.

If people want to race minis around King Cobra, I’ll build up a series of A850 minis and gift them out to everybody as an incentive.



Hiredman gets his on the day.

[Lazlow]

Maserati GranTurismo is pretty hefty aswell.

[Clockw0rk]

So anyway, my suggestion for Sunday is A850 heavyweights using the weight restrictions from the Career race, X laps of Sebring.

Warmup races could be B700s round Suzuka and some A850 minis around King Cobra.

[HiredMan]

If it's this sunday, I can't make it. Cooking dinner for some chicks from my work. Boobs > Forza 2 :p

[Shorty]

The man makes a compelling case.

[TrinityJayOne]

The Trans-Am is 1,700-something, as are a few of the other muscles. I'm good for Sunday, but it won't be a late one for me as the landlord is coming around at 8am to get a quote for ducted heating. :D

[Clockw0rk]

We'll run the A850 1700kg race first, I reckon 6 laps of Sebring should be enough for most people. After that, if anyone's keen for the B700s on Suzuka we'll do 5 laps, and 3 laps of King Cobra in the minis.

I'll take a roll call before I build up and gift the race minis for tonight - who's in?

[TrinityJayOne]

I'm 50/50, been sick as a dog and may be in bed.

[Shorty]

I'm up for it.

[HiredMan]

Pfft. I wanna use a Porsche.

[Clockw0rk]

Cars built and gifted to Trin, Lazlow, Shorty and Surgeon. You've each got a custom paintjob too :)

[Shorty]

So when do we start loading in the gold buillion and driving through the subway? :p

[Clockw0rk]

"All units, be on the lookout for a yellow mini with a giant penis on the side".
Enjoy, Shorty ;)

[Surgeon.]

What's the deal with the 'B700s on Suzuka'?

2L?
1.8L?
NA Only?

[Clockw0rk]

B700. Keeping it simple :)

[Lazlow]

Shit, I should prepare! to lose >_>

EDIT: just did :D

[Lazlow]

Definitely going to be late to the party tonight. Will probably end up missing the first race.

[Clockw0rk]

Everyone's late or not turning up, so we're postponing this week's series until next week.
Since Hiredman made up a story so he could play more Battlestations Pacific, he doesn't get a mini. I'll post the tune and he can build it himself :p

To recap - next week:
A850 heavyweights, 1746kg or over. Sebring full, 6 laps.
B700 open, Suzuka, 5 laps
A850 Race Minis, 3 laps of King Cobra. Feel free to mess with the tune but you really shouldn't have to.

[Lazlow]

TBH your tune on that Mini wasn't to my taste. Waaaaaaaaay too much understeer, was like steering a shopping cart full of bricks. I've modified it to suit :D

[Surgeon.]

I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say that HiredMan's elaborate lie next week will involve vampires. It's more believable than HiredMan and boobies. :p

[Clockw0rk]

TBH your tune on that Mini wasn't to my taste. Waaaaaaaaay too much understeer, was like steering a shopping cart full of bricks. I've modified it to suit :D
Yeah, if you're on the accelerator too much when you turn then you'll just fly in a straight line. It's impossible to spin though, and corrects super easily. Can run a 1:30.5 on Maple Valley Reverse with that setup, though a bit less understeer is probably better for something like King Cobra.

[HiredMan]

The dinner fell through pretty late in the piece and I didn't have time to set up any cars so I thought I'd skip the races.... didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings! I'll try and put some effort into tuning up some cars this week. Chalk me up for a spot this weekend.

[TrinityJayOne]

My flu is subsiding, so I shall also be in for sure next week.

[Clockw0rk]

A couple of races I'd be keen to try:

D-Class tuned to S
S998, no aero (Forza or otherwise)

I'll put together a couple of tunes over the week so if anyone else wants to, we could run those too. If I win on Sunday then the week after will definitely be S998 no aero :p

[Clockw0rk]

Everyone down for tonight?

[Clockw0rk]

Given the response rate/turnout, I'm guessing Sunday Forza is on hold until the release of Forza 3.

[Lazlow]

I hope not >_>

I was hoping for a 2.0L tourer blast at some stage. Or another Merc v Audi v BMW run.

Yeah... been watching some WTCC/DTM races :D

[Melas]

DTM races are awesome, Merc vs Audi could be a good race to have on silverstone or Mugello.

and I have Gold again so I would be intersted in racing again sometime.

[Shorty]

I'd be up for some DTM action on Silverstone or Mugello.

[Lazlow]

Mugello. I prefer Silverstone for more high powered rigs.

I know the Opel car is in Forza 2, but I can't remember if there a Merc and Audi versions of actual DTM cars... seeing as they are nothing like the production models.

[TrinityJayOne]

I'm still up for it! :D Only Audi touring-style car I can recall is that R4 one.

[Shorty]

There's also an RS6 as well as a Volvo S60 R. They're pretty much the only DTM-style cars I can think of.

[Lazlow]

Nah I was referring to cars from the actual DTM series. The Opel Astra is probably the only one.

(For what its worth DTM cars aren't based on production models, they're all essentially 4.0L V8s air restricted to 470bhp, with a shell resembling a production car placed over the top. Many drivers feel they handle more like a single seater than a tin top).

[Surgeon.]

I'm still up for Forza.

Someone (other than me) make a Forza social group. Should actually make it easier to organize races.

[Clockw0rk]

Done! (http://www.hyper.com.au/forums/group.php?groupid=14)

[TrinityJayOne]

Won't a thread be easier? Using a group just seems like more clicks and means it isn't out in the open for new members to see.

[Clockw0rk]

We still on for an 8:30pm AEST start?

[Lazlow]

I'm up for it, but I'm not confident with the lack of interest shown >_>

[Shorty]

I'm down. What are we rolling in, tonight?

[Starscream]

8:30 PM, Let me see if I can find my copy of Forza. :(

[Lazlow]

I'm down. What are we rolling in, tonight?

AFAIK:

DTM Race @ Mugello
Audi ABT TT-R
Opel OPC Astra V8.
10 laps?

Mini race that Clockwork tried to get up and running prior to the great fire.

[Clockw0rk]

So is this Sunday happening? IIRC we're running Japanese R3s round Suzuka as well as the mini race (I spent 60,000 per car on those things AND painted them, you lazy bastards :p).

Any suggestions for time are welcome, I'll always make an effort to turn up but if it gets delayed for half an hour while we wait for people then I just can't keep up, I'm 2 hours ahead of Aus and I've got work at 8am on Monday.

[Clockw0rk]

Sorted my Supra for tonight. I've also got a sweet dual screen setup with the second monitor acting as a replay cam for my flatmates to watch. Are people OK with 7pm AEST? It's a bit earlier so we should get more races in.

[Melas]

i would have been playing with you guys but yeah RRoD :(

[Lazlow]

7pm is fine for me. Though I'll probably be eating around 8-8:30pm. So hopefully we don't have too many connection dramas. >_>

[HiredMan]

Probably cant make it tonight. You lads have fun! :)

[Lazlow]

Bummer.

Oh well, I've got a Skyline setup to go.

[Clockw0rk]

I'll check at 7:30 AEST and again at 8:00 and 8:30. If anyone's around then, I'm happy to race.

[Lazlow]

I'm on, but no one else is (well... Shorty is, but he's playing GoW2).

I'll check this thread at 8, but if there's still no interest I'll give it a miss.

[TrinityJayOne]

Bugger me, completely forgot about this! I'm about to head out for dinner but I'm up for a few races when I get back if anyone is still about, won't be til at least 9pm though.

[Clockw0rk]

Laz, I'll meet you (and maybe Shorty) online at 8.

[Lazlow]

Goddamn connection failures. >_<

Shorty/Surgeon/Clockwork were fine until I showed up >_>

[Clockw0rk]

Sorry guys. Looks like only Hiredman or Trin can host a successful lobby and I've got work tomorrow so can't stick around forever.
Have a good race!

[Lazlow]

It never happened.

I could only get Shorty to successfully to connect, and I failed trying to connect to Surgeon.

[Lazlow]

Following Trin's guide and a guide on the forza forums, I've hopefully set up my router to communicate with the xbox360 directly and smoothly. Set a specific IP and forward the appropriate ports to it, then assigned that IP as a DMZ.

[TrinityJayOne]

I'm convinced it's a Forza-only problem. :\ Imo game-specific hassles are very possible, because I know that [b]every single time[b] I've played Outrun online I'm lucky to get through 2 races before I mysteriously get disconnected from Live.

Oh well, I'll be out for a little bit anyways as I'm heading to Sydney for a holiday on the 9th.

[Lazlow]

Fight Night Rd3 was an absolute dog to play online too :(

[Rypien GT]

Any of you guys interested in swapping some ghost replays, or indeed racing against each others 'Time Trial' ghosts?

I know how much of a pain in the arse it can be to get a lag free game, heck, its even hard to match up in the same lobby sometimes.

I've not spent a great deal of time on any of the 'Time Trials', but i'd be up for a challenge if anyone else wants to nominate one for us all to shoot at. I know its only hotlapping, but it would take lag out of the picture and let everyone run laps in thier own time when it suits them.

I love Road Atlanta, and i think there is a good Time Trial there if i remember correctly. cant remember the car though .... mmmm .... a yellow Corvette or Mosler perhaps .....

I'll have a good look next time i'm online and see if i can nominate a Time Trial to have a crack at and we might be able to run against each others ghosts.

Anyone interested?

my XBox Live ID is -

Rypien GT

Send a request and i'll add you to my friends list and that way we can automatically download each others settings and replays from the Time Trials.

[HiredMan]

Yeah I'd be up for that Rypien, but could you send me a message and I'll cull someone off the list and add you?

GT is HiredMan

Ta.

[Rypien GT]

Just sent a message your way mate.

The Time Trial i was thinking of was the yellow Saleen @ Road Atlanta. Awseome car and track. Although i'd still prefer my racing rig and wheel that i use for Gran Turismo and my PC sims, the joypad is still good fun with Forza 2. Had to revert back to my old Dual Shock ways and have the pad set up for left stick (steering) and right stick (forward/brake) since i cant come to grips with the triggers.

Anyways, hope to get some more track time soon.

[Rypien GT]

Got you on the list HiredMan ;)

Any particular Time Trial you want to have a crack at?

Know of anyone else keen to have some hotlaps and do some ghost chasing?

I was looking through my Time Trials and i've still got a few to go. Some of my times are OK, but most are slugg'ish as i'm still comming to grips with the 360 controller for racing games.

[HiredMan]

turb06 and I were doing runs of the Nordschleife in the Porsche 997 GT2 trying to beat Walter Rohrl's 7:32 a while back (we got close, I think turbs was running high 7:30 bracket and I was on about 7:41ish)..... production cars (or race cars) on the 'ring is always fun :)

[Clockw0rk]

Stock cars are always fun, but if you've got a bit of cash to blow then try this tune round the 'ring:


Car : 2006 Corvette Z06

Engine & Power: All Stock

Platform & Handling:
Brakes: RACE
Springs & Dampers: RACE
Anti-roll Bars: RACE
Transmission: RACE
Clutch: RACE
Flywheel: RACE
Driveline: RACE
Differential: RACE
Weight Reduction: STOCK

Tires & Rims:
Tire Compound: STOCK
Tire Width: MAX WIDTH
Rim Size: STOCK
Rim Style: HRE 546R

Body & Aero: All Forza

Tuning:
Tires: F=29 R=29
Gearing:
FD- 3.74
1st- 2.89
2nd- 1.99
3rd-1.51
4th- 1.20
5th- 1.00
6th- 0.85
Alignment:
Camber- F= -0.8 R= -0.6
Toe- F= 0.3 R= -0.1
Caster- 5.3
Anti-roll Bars: F= 9.59 R= 11.59
Springs: F= 430.8 R= 380.5
Ride Height: F= 4.6 R= 4.7
Damping:
Rebound: F= 8.5 R= 7.0
Bump: F= 7.0 R= 5.5
Aero: F= 125 R= 150
Braking: 49% / 110%
Differential:
Rear Acceleration= 9
Rear Deceleration= 19

Units are in Imperial, you'll have to change them in the options menu. The car should be good for 7:35 or better.

[Rypien GT]

Will have to give those settings a whirl.

But with soo many games on the trot, i'm finding it more fun to simply jump into arcade non tuned cars for some simple Forza fun. The 'Time Trials' let you see everyones records, lets you download thier ghost replay, and even download settings so you dont have to spend the time fiddling yourself (dont get me wrong, i love setting up cars but dont have the time with Forza atm).

The very last 'Time Trial' is @ the Nurburgring in the great ole Porsche 962c. I've had a few cracks, and even though i'm used to Gran Turismo 4's version of the Green Hell, i've managed to get in a reasonable time of 6'33.091. Anyone fancy downloading my ghost and having a crack?

[HiredMan]

Yeah mate, I'll have a go at that time. Prolly next week?

[Rypien GT]

Cheers to the guys that i've added to my 360 Friends list over the past week. I've been able to see the times you guys have been running in the Time Trials, download replays, and even have the odd run against your ghost replays (always enjoyed this feature in the Gran Turismo series, and i gotta say Forza do it very well indeed).

Gotta give a special mention to 'TrinityJayOne' who has a pretty handy Nurburgring Time. Good stuff mate ;) I did a good 6 lap session the other night and had your ghost replay loaded, and my PB ghost also in the mix as i struggled to match either of them. Hope to get a bit closer next time out on track. Your opening first few sectors really set up a fast lap.

Spent a bit of time at a couple of the other Time Trials, but couldn't get my Saleen around Road Atlanta any faster, or even improve my Evo around Tsubuka time.

[HiredMan]

I've only run the TT's once each I think..... might have to give some more of them a go.

[TrinityJayOne]

To get the Nurb time any faster you really need a wheel. Download the number 3 replay by Daveyskills (utmost respect for this guy, only top 5'er (on any track) that seems to do it without assists) and you can see how smooth his actions are. You just can't achieve that with a pad at those speeds.

Also FYI, you can setup your own races vs AI (better than the arcade mode ones) by starting an Exhibition room, setting the number of AI to 7 and the same for friend spots. That way you don't get noobs joining the race and kicking one of the AI out of the lobby, and you can hand pick their cars by selecting a driver and hitting the blue button. Happy snap from an all A-class Porsche race I did the other night. That's me in the 997T. :D

http://members.optusnet.com.au/trinityjayone/Porsches.jpg

[HiredMan]

Pffft, real (stupid) men drive GT2's :D


And GT3 RS'

[TrinityJayOne]

Sitting behind two of them made for some pretty thumping engine noise, I tell ya! I trust you've seen that video of someone at E3 driving a 911 with dashboard view? Cannot wait for that sound in the actual game.

[Shorty]

Pffft, real (stupid) men drive GT2's :D

...straight into a wall. :p

[Clockw0rk]

...sideways into a wall. :p
Fixed ;)

[HiredMan]

Actually, if you're pushing hard (as you should be) you usually go backwards into a wall :p

[HiredMan]

Hai guys!!!1!one!

Whats everyone up to Sunday night eh? For that matter, whats everyone up to tonight and Saturday? Eh? EH?!?

[TrinityJayOne]

I'm UP (TO MY EARS) IN FORZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Theiffy]

Won't be on for a bit. :( Despite opting out of the new preview thingo that possibly kills homemade HDDs, my console has received it and I can't get on Live without patching, which could potentially **** my shit up. Backing it up to my PC now and then I'll patch but not expecting good news.

PS- using Theiffy's account!

[Xanafalgue]

WHy Sunday's? :(

[HiredMan]

Won't be on for a bit. :( Despite opting out of the new preview thingo that possibly kills homemade HDDs, my console has received it and I can't get on Live without patching, which could potentially **** my shit up. Backing it up to my PC now and then I'll patch but not expecting good news.

PS- using Theiffy's account!

PS- who are you if you're not Theiffy??!!?

[TrinityJayOne]

Trin! Backup is finally done, takes like 3 hours. About to hook the brick up and try my luck.

[Blue]

Oh, of COURSE it was Trin … >_>

Wait, are Trin and Theiffy an item!?

Anyway, shotgun a spot on Sunday. Let us play 'til midnight.

[TrinityJayOne]

I am secretly Adzy and can access other people's accounts at will.

[Lazlow]

The why is Off Topic unlocked? :p

[Clockw0rk]

WHy Sunday's? :(
People are busy every other night of the week, Sunday seems to be the best night for it. We tried Friday for a while but Hiredman was always too drunk :p

[HiredMan]

My secret shame! :(

[Rambo]

About to get this today, too bad I work EVERY sunday night.


You guys suck.

[Shorty]

My secret shame! :(

It's not that secret. We can tell when you enter the Party. :p

[TrinityJayOne]

Yeah Sundays aren't fantastic for me either anymore, I have to be up at 5:30am for work.

[Clockw0rk]

Well, shit.
Is there any day of the week that suits everyone?
Bear in mind I'm up until 10-11pm on Sundays to do these races and have to get up at 6:45 on Monday morning to catch the bus to work.
Perhaps we could simply have it a bit earlier? 6pm AEST? What else are folks doing on a Sunday?

[Lazlow]

I'm always up for 6pm. We always seems to be eating around 8pm when the races usually start.

[Blue]

I won't be home by 6pm. I will be home by 8pm.

Why mess with tradition? >_>

[Lazlow]

Because 8pm has always been problematic, and the last few events had a shit turnout.

[TrinityJayOne]

I'm gonna be on as much as possible today seeing as I missed everyone lastnight. I'll most likely be painting for a while, just hit me up.

[StorminNorman]

Dad and I should be on for most of the day. I can ask him if he wants to participate in this.

[Clockw0rk]

I propose we move Sunday Forza to 6pm AEST on Sundays.

For tonight, we need to make a decision: Main race at 6pm or 8pm?

[TrinityJayOne]

I'll likely be out for dinner, but my vote goes to 6pm.

[HiredMan]

I wont make the race at 6pm but should be able to jump in around 8 for some other races.

[TrinityJayOne]

Dinner out is tomorrow now, so 8pm may be better for this particular eve. :P

[Melas]

If any of you guys are up for a bit of online racing now send me an invite.

[Blue]

Actually, I'm able to get home from work just in time, so I'm good for six. It seems to suit most of you guys better anyway.

We're probably starting now, but I've got a problem. Out of Gold. :( If anyone has a three-day Live trial code or something like that I could scab, that'd be sweet. Otherwise, I'll just have to catch you guys next Sunday, or for any impromptu races during the week.

[Clockw0rk]

I'll be on at 8 so if the main race hasn't started already I'll be down for then.

[TrinityJayOne]

8 it is.

[Clockw0rk]

Prize car is half done and probably won't be finished before the race, I'll get it finished tomorrow. It's got the base paint, just needs race decals now.

[Blue]

****. I was looking forward to this, too. Ah well. Get some photos up anyway, somebody.

[Lazlow]

So did anything eventuate, think I saw Surgeon, Clockw0rk and Trin racing online, but Shorty and Heatz were Tuning/Season Play, so I assume the room was full?