OMG!!! 2010 sees Golden Sun DS

[ireadtabloids]

Myself and many others thought that it would never see the light of day... Then two years ago we thought we saw it slowly come into being. It was a hoax.

But now at E3 we finally get confirmation of a new Golden Sun title. Golden Sun DS, with an awesome looking trailer to boot! Albeit a ten second one.

No details have been announced yet (unless you count the fact that walking is controlled by the D-pad). But I am so excited! More excited than I've been about a game in ages. This is the most fantastic game announcement since Super Mario Galaxy. C'mon 2010!

Not confirmed: By looking at the trailer it looks like most of the original cast of characters are playable, including Isaac. I don't see why they'd change the characters in the future, but who really knows?!

[ElPresidente]

Thank God my next month of net starts tomorrow... being capped during E3 has been killing me.

[Cicada]

Can't wait. For me, this sits as one of the best announcements from E3 for... well quite a long time really. Having missed out on the hoax I had many a year of desire built up, which caused an... unexpected reaction when I found the announcement slipped coyly into ign's liveblog.

The game seems to have made a good transition art style wise, though there's obviously way too little available to make a full judgement, but still. DAMN! EXCITEMENT!

[Lex]

*yawn* I was getting excited for "a new chapter in a much-loved franchise" then bam, golden sun :(

[Vindik8or]

http://www.madman.com.au/actions/channel.do?method=view

Here's some anime DVDs. Piss about in the menu trees for half an hour before selecting a single scene to watch. Repeat ad nauseum, sometimes ejecting the disc and resetting the 30 minute countdown.

[Lex]

but golden sun doesn't have cutscenes...

[Vindik8or]

Okay, instead of watching the scene, you pick up the fansub script and read that. Then go back to the menus.

[Lex]

but I can't battle monsters, or explore a world, or level up a character, or buy items in an anime....

[Vindik8or]

You mean micro-manage your nested menus?

[Lex]

is that what moving around a map is? nobody cares about your opinions on jrpg's, we've heard them all before, it's played out bro :)

[Vindik8or]

You're doing a good job of showing that not caring business.

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[Lex]

I just enjoy pulling apart your silly arguments :)

[Beinkasaurus Rex]

guys dont get so excited over GSDS, its only a game!

[Araenel]

but I can't battle monsters, or explore a world, or level up a character, buy items in an anime, or has colours....

Strengthening your argument.

[ElPresidente]

Obvious troll is obvious. ;)

[Araenel]

Well I do suck on a sewing machine.

[ElPresidente]

Not you. :p

[Cian]

I looooved the original, so damn much. Probably the best RPG at the time it was released. Nintendo seem to be answering my calls...finally some 'good' games announced.

[Fenrir]

http://www.madman.com.au/actions/channel.do?method=view

Here's some anime DVDs. Piss about in the menu trees for half an hour before selecting a single scene to watch. Repeat ad nauseum, sometimes ejecting the disc and resetting the 30 minute countdown.
Forgetting the psynergy-based puzzle-solving elements, which make up a hefty chunk of GS gameplay.

[Queenie]

all I can say is

I'm super hyper exciiiiiiiiiiiiited.

[topaz]

Very excited about this! I missed out on the first two because I didn't have a GBA at the time, but I've always wanted to play them

[Queenie]

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[Hellion_7]

From the Nintendo US E3 site:
Golden Sun™ DS: After going dark six years ago, 2010 will see a new dawn. Golden Sun DS updates the popular portable Golden Sun role-playing series with an impressive graphical style. This installment follows the story of the previous heroes’ descendants and immerses players into the magic of its adventure by pushing the boundaries of intuitive touch-screen controls. Golden Sun DS is playable on the Nintendo DS and Nintendo DSi systems.Link (http://e3.nintendo.com/pressrelease/)

[TimmyJ]

Awesome. Bring on 2010.

[Queenie]

ok now when's the demo coming out?

so since it's their descendants, does that mean ivan and sheba have levitated up to contigo or something by now?

[Spazzallo]

I'd be surprised if Ivan wasn't one-shot on the way up tbh >_>

[ireadtabloids]

guys dont get so excited over GSDS, its only a game!

Awwwww...

[ireadtabloids]

So hang on Hellion 7. Descendants? Why? So we're supposed to believe that someone as impulsive as Alex doesn't attempt to take the battle to Isaac and company? Also does this mean that some of the story lines won't be fulfilled?
Will there be any use to our level 90+ all djinii save files from Golden Sun 2?

I'm sure they've got some ideas to make it work, but this announcement really throws me.

Honestly, Isaac is in his 30s and past it so a new bunch of 17 year olds must save the day. It does not make sense! If Robert Harvey and Michael Tuck could play AFL in their late 30s then surely these guys and gals could fight some monsters!

[Spazzallo]

Descendants could mean hundreds of years later. My guess is that the plot has something to do with Alex still being alive after all these years, either escaping from his tomb or someone else trying to bring him back. He did have the power of the 4 elements before the wise one shut him off.

[Hellion_7]

So hang on Hellion 7. Descendants? Why? So we're supposed to believe that someone as impulsive as Alex doesn't attempt to take the battle to Isaac and company? Also does this mean that some of the story lines won't be fulfilled?
Will there be any use to our level 90+ all djinii save files from Golden Sun 2?

I'm sure they've got some ideas to make it work, but this announcement really throws me.

Honestly, Isaac is in his 30s and past it so a new bunch of 17 year olds must save the day. It does not make sense! If Robert Harvey and Michael Tuck could play AFL in their late 30s then surely these guys and gals could fight some monsters!

The info I quoted is from the US Nintendo site, so maybe they have it wrong. The Takahashi brothers (bigwigs at Camelot) did previously say this:
And for us, as far as the whole Golden Sun setting, the world, the storyline for us, in our minds, Golden Sun 1 and 2 are prologues to the real event yet to come… So those games are created—again, from our viewpoint—as a way of introducing this world to the game players.Link (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/rumorsArt.cfm?artid=4522)
I'd imagine it could take Alex quite a while to reappear...
what with being buried along with a mountain and all.

[Queenie]

he absorbed some of the golden sun. So, being a JRPG, there's obviously some plothole in there that we don't know about that enables him to plot-twist the new game 3/4ths of the way through.

[Clockw0rk]

Will there be any use to our level 90+ all djinii save files from Golden Sun 2?
Level 90+?
I got bored of grinding at level 40something, which was enough for me to beat Dullahan. How many hours did you pointlessly invest in grinding to 90?

Pretty stoked about the announcement anyway, I figured they'd never get around to it.

[Queenie]

Level 90+?
I got bored of grinding at level 40something, which was enough for me to beat Dullahan. How many hours did you pointlessly invest in grinding to 90?

Pretty stoked about the announcement anyway, I figured they'd never get around to it.

about 10-20 hours.

In the cave that leads to sentinel, I just waited until two firebirds appeared and chained them so at the end of one battle I got something like 2million xp.

the particular phoenix (I can't remember real name) gave the most experience in the game.

[ireadtabloids]

My mate stuffed up and got that summon before facing Dullahan. So we ended up leveling to 70+ to beat him and get all the psyches. Then we kind of just kept on grinding out of habit...

[aubergine]

Liked the trailer, didn't realise until then it was in 3D engine.

[ireadtabloids]

I didn't realise the engine was in 3D until after I'd already seen it and somebody pointed it out. It looks like exactly the same level design as the other titles!

I've been thinking about the final scenes of Golden Sun: The Lost Age.

There's a distinct possiblity that Alex has been temporarily sealed in exactly the same location as the elemental stars were hidden. The secret cavern under the mountain. It's the only possible way that the next installment can make sense, I'm sure.

I know it's cliched and it makes me think of Ganondorf too, but it does seem to fit in with the idea that the new characters are actually Isaac's descendants.
What are your theories?

[Queenie]

that the similarities it shares with ocarina of time and wind waker will in fact make it even more win, beyond belief amount of win in fact, when it is released.

Probably a little more delving into the history of the world, and seeing contigo, understanding why the world collapsed, and perhaps going beyond gaia falls... off the edge.

alex sets the cultures of the world against each other to create chaos and forces the descendants to attempt to seal the power of psynergy inside the lighthouses again which will somehow fulfil his wishes?

[aubergine]

Wish Id gotten around to playing the second game, enjoyed the first one.

[Mike-Towns]

Wish Id gotten around to playing the second game, enjoyed the first one.

The first one was MUCH better.

[ireadtabloids]

I disagree, the second added far more interesting puzzles and increased depth in combat due to the sheer amount of djinni and different classes. So many options!

Btw Queenie where did you get the idea for this? Quote:alex sets the cultures of the world against each other to create chaos and forces the descendants to attempt to seal the power of psynergy inside the lighthouses again which will somehow fulfil his wishes?

[ireadtabloids]

Lol... it's nearly 2010. Where's the Super Smash Bros. style web site?

[ireadtabloids]

Hmm... My frustration about the lack of information on this title continues.
Thus far I've kept my frustration in check. However, I fear that if this lack of information continues I will rage. Even quite unfairly against my beloved Hyper. Whose writers anticipation of the title is quite probably far more passionate than my own, and whose Japanese literate contributers have probably been trawling for info.

I'll be holding bets on how long much longer I'll last before I crack. I give myself 50 days.

[tau]

Or you can stop sounding like an annoying "fan" and just wait patiently.

[Nic Xtreme]

Just Preorder (http://www.ebgames.com.au/ds-147808-Golden-Sun-DS-Nintendo-DS) it.

[ireadtabloids]

Or you can stop sounding like an annoying "fan" and just wait patiently.

true that

[ireadtabloids]

The E3 Floor plan has been announced (http://bit.ly/dlYi9d).
Guess who's on it?

Lol, I hope we see some new information so I haven't bumped this thread for no good reason (again).

[Allick]

Just Preorder (http://www.ebgames.com.au/ds-147808-Golden-Sun-DS-Nintendo-DS) it.

http://www.ebgames.com.au/App_Assets/images/ui/stockAvailPreOrderSoon.gif

Noh my god.

[ireadtabloids]

Golden Sun: Dark Dawn trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifIB8PZSwSQ)

[VanAce]

Pretty cool looking. Hope it plays well.

[AranchineD]

I don't like the 3D models at all.

[Queenie]

the trailer looks like shit compared to the demonstration videos that I watched.

Much cleaner and crisper. or something.

But yeah, the demo videos are better i reckon.

[Beinkasaurus Rex]

Mildly interested, never finished Lost Age admittedly.

[FF Freak]

looking forward to this but I'm with aran...don't like the 3D models at all. Makes it look too much like the FF:crystal Chronicles DS games which were off putting to me because of the horrible models.

[ireadtabloids]

the trailer looks like shit compared to the demonstration videos that I watched.

Much cleaner and crisper. or something.

But yeah, the demo videos are better i reckon.

Put up the gameplay videos mate!

[Watchers]

looking forward to this but I'm with aran...don't like the 3D models at all. Makes it look too much like the FF:crystal Chronicles DS games which were off putting to me because of the horrible models.

Yeah. Makes me wish they'd waited for the 3DS.

[tau]

or just do it in faux 3D like in the first two games, but beef up the animation and res of sprites to fit a full DS cart.

[ireadtabloids]

or just do it in faux 3D like in the first two games, but beef up the animation and res of sprites to fit a full DS cart.

I'm just happy the game is coming out.
They were always a small team and for them to put all their other projects on hold to focus on Golden Sun is a big deal.

Heres hoping this one makes a big impact in the West.

Oh and here's a video of the Golden Sun Dark Dawn battles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfmK-0ALkEs)
Here's the new interface for puzzles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0VY6E4e2bQ&NR=1) as well

[FF Freak]

those vids look awesome how ever it was kinda funny how much trouble it looked like the guy was having in the puzzle demo with the controls.

[Queenie]

moar updates now pls

[ireadtabloids]

Hmm... GoldenSunDS cancelled their twitter account.
Either this means that their setting up a new twitter account and we'll get loads of updates or things will remain quiet until release.

[9warbane]

http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=25161

What begins as a simple journey to rescue a lost friend turns into a dramatic quest to save the land from catastrophe as players are drawn into a world full of magical energy.
Doesn't it always.

[tau]

That does not sound like it has ever been done before ever.

[Queenie]

I played this because it's a good game and the graphics were pretty for a gameboy, much better than pokemon.

Also, you can read people's minds and interact with the environment in a way that you can't in other jrpgs.

And it's awesome.

[ireadtabloids]

http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=25161


Doesn't it always.

Oh c'mon 9warbane. Hasn't this ever happened to you?
Happens to me all the time.

Spending time at the bar, looking after mates:
What begins as a simple journey to rescue a lost friend turns into a dramatic quest to save the land from catastrophe as players are drawn into a world full of magical energy.

It's as common as all muck.

Anyway Nov 29, eh? Could be interesting.

[VanAce]

http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/up/news/goldensunddoflc.png

Game has been classified so it can't be too far away now

[9warbane]

I think it came out in Japan a week or two ago.

Lucky bastards.

[Gunblade89]

Think it releases at the end of November in the US, so i'd guess early next year for Aus.

[FF Freak]

Play-asia has US release dated at November. I'm thinking I should pre-order it on there.

[Australian Ninja]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Jonny9999/Banners/Bond3.jpg


Call it a hunch but I always knew Golden Sun would return in a new adventure.

[Stevorooni]

I never played the 2nd game and can barely remember the 1st one apart from lots of nodding and exclamation marks.

[Australian Ninja]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Jonny9999/BABF15.jpg

Now, the key to great gaming is one word: tappa-tappa-tappa.

[Beinkasaurus Rex]

Importing from Play Asia (H)

[ireadtabloids]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Jonny9999/Banners/Bond3.jpg


Call it a hunch but I always knew Golden Sun would return in a new adventure.

That is the happiest we will ever see Roger Moore

[Australian Ninja]

He's nodding and smiling on the inside.

[Queenie]

htfu and post my copy play asia

[FF Freak]

pre-ordered my copy from play-asia yesterday.

[ireadtabloids]

Has anyone got their copy yet?
Its due out in Australia on the 2nd of December.

I'm sort of sitting on the fence as to whether or not I should purchase this (years of waiting kinda dampens the hype) so let me know your thoughts!

[Queenie]

purchase it god dammit. Through my play-asia link :P

reviews are up on a few sites, but for the most part the reviews seem short and sometimes biased against jrpgs, as if all anyone wants to do nowadays is play CoD.

Reader reviews are always very high though.

Apparently it's a little easier which is bad :(

I can't wait to play it myself.

[9warbane]

Psy grenades are gay and holly shit you get djinn out the wazoo.

[FF Freak]

so not sure if the US release date has changed or the email I just got from play-asia is because their shipment has been delayed but they changed it from November 2010 to December 2010.

[Rambo]

So I'm um... Obtaining it now.

Will give you thoughts soon.

[AranchineD]

Oh it's available on the internet for piracy purposes now, is it?

Good news.

[Rambo]

>_>

5char

[Ingram]

Played 45 minutes and it's not for me.

Hand holding to extreme really pisses me off, and it feels infuriating being told well done for something so pathetically simple and obvious. I think this game is aimed for 5 year olds.

Back to Devil Survivor for me :)

[9warbane]

It's good but a tad easy.

I currently have four Earth djinn and one Jupiter djinn. >_>

[Queenie]

and how long have you played for?

I heard they ramped down the difficulty but I hope not too much.

Ok i'm playing on easy mode all videogames so i can decrease my expectations.

[Rambo]

I just love the Golden Sun series, I'm sure it'll get harder as it goes along.

The first boss fight however, used 4 mars djinn and summoned meteor and killed the boss first hit :\

[9warbane]

and how long have you played for?

I heard they ramped down the difficulty but I hope not too much.

Ok i'm playing on easy mode all videogames so i can decrease my expectations.

Five and an half hours, into a few rooms after killing the Sand Prince. Although I'm stuck at the moment, stuffed up a pipe puzzle. I know what to do but I can't get the puzzle to reset.

It definitely is easy. Early on you get two djinn that can revive a downed party member but I haven't came across any Water of Lifes.


The first boss fight however, used 4 mars djinn and summoned meteor and killed the boss first hit :\
WTF boss was that?

[Queenie]

in the stores, how much is it?

[9warbane]

$70, probably $60 in some.

[Rambo]

The boss when you still have Garet and Isaac. Well the first big enemy anyway.

[Queenie]

another quickie as I won't see this for a week, but who hooked up with whom from the original game?

Garet and mia etc?

[9warbane]

Mattew's parents are Issac and Jenna, although I haven't seen Jenna. Most of the others only have one parent like Garet's son and Ivan's daughter. I assume the other parent is a nobody or has died.

[Queenie]

interesting. I spose all will be revealed when I get to play the thing. Putting it off for a playthrough of the originals so I can build the tension for myself and re-immerse into the story.

[9warbane]

I wouldn't get too hyped for the story. A few hours in and you're introduced to the two main villains (I think), one of them is some new guy and the other has a mask on. It's obvious who it is when you see him.

[Queenie]

ten bucks on alex

[ireadtabloids]

Mattew's parents are Issac and Jenna, although I haven't seen Jenna. Most of the others only have one parent like Garet's son and Ivan's daughter. I assume the other parent is a nobody or has died.

I'm just gonna assume that Garet was an abusive lover and she left.
All hyped up on ROIDS!!

Bit more excited after seeing this trailer.
I'm a bit keen to play through this game a bit differently to the other ones :)
Before I just stockpiled Djinn of one type for each character.
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Btw Isaac and Jenna? Interesting... There must have been something going on behind the scenes during their last adventure. God knows what though. The story never let on.

[ireadtabloids]

I wouldn't get too hyped for the story. A few hours in and you're introduced to the two main villains (I think), one of them is some new guy and the other has a mask on. It's obvious who it is when you see him.

I'm guessing the mask doesn't cover his blue hair?

[9warbane]

Yes and there's the fact that they say at the start that people exposed to the golden sun no longer age as much as regular people.

[Queenie]

I'm just gonna assume that Garet was an abusive lover and she left.
All hyped up on ROIDS!!

Bit more excited after seeing this trailer.
I'm a bit keen to play through this game a bit differently to the other ones :)
Before I just stockpiled Djinn of one type for each character.
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Btw Isaac and Jenna? Interesting... There must have been something going on behind the scenes during their last adventure. God knows what though. The story never let on.

In regards to the jenna and isaac, if you went all uber-completionist in the first game (i think rescuing the guy under the rock after xiang? I forget, I'm only at imil in my playthrough :)

but anyway, this chick feizhi comes back in TLA in some town, i think champa, looking for isaac, to give him a ring of +1. Jenna gets jealous and there's some blushing and teasing. But i have a whole lotta game to get through, so there may be more.

[ireadtabloids]

In regards to the jenna and isaac, if you went all uber-completionist in the first game (i think rescuing the guy under the rock after xiang? I forget, I'm only at imil in my playthrough :)

but anyway, this chick feizhi comes back in TLA in some town, i think champa, looking for isaac, to give him a ring of +1. Jenna gets jealous and there's some blushing and teasing. But i have a whole lotta game to get through, so there may be more.

Been so long since I played the games. My memory of the whole thing is a bit hazy! That sounds about right though!

[Zeph101]

Bit more excited after seeing this trailer.
I'm a bit keen to play through this game a bit differently to the other ones :)
Before I just stockpiled Djinn of one type for each character.

That's too bad with regards to the first games. You got weird combinations when you'd mix up the Djinn. I remember getting a ninja class when mixing earth wind and fire Djinn, complete with invisibility field powers stopping all random encounters as well as shuriken and bamboo themed battle psi powers.

I even once found a combination for turning a character into some kind of circus juggler class like in FF Tactics.

Incidentally, this game is really hard to find now in Melbourne. I went to three JBs before I found a copy. Anyone know what the production amount was for this title?

[Spazzallo]

I had the same problem, my local JB had one left and that was because it was hidden behind something else. Goodluck finding a copy.

Really enjoying it so far but I have no idea how anybody would understand what's going on if they hadn't played the first 2 games.

[Queenie]

I have 2 of the first game. And I still don't have the ****ing map.

[Zeph101]

For those fretting they won't get a copy of this game, don't panic. I heard that it's been done on a supply and demand ratio, and a second wave of copies will go on sale this week. If they sell over 75% nation wide another smaller wave will be shipped and so on. It's not going to be as hard to come by as some of us thought.

My source? Mate who works at JB.

[Sac]

How strong is the story in this game? I remember coming fairly bored towards the end of the original Golden Sun as it seemed to become a case of just being told "go there. Go there next. Now go there. And now....you go to some tower".

Is this new one like that, or does it seem to maintain a narrative?

[ireadtabloids]

I have 2 of the first game. And I still don't have the ****ing map.

Owch.

[Queenie]

I've finally started playing and am happy but also bitterly disappointed at the same time for a number of things:

new music is very kiddy. I feel at times like i'm playing a little kids game, which it probably is.

Items and status-etc is completely retarded compared to the old drop-down lists thing. Whyyyy.

Start != save. Took me ages to learn how to save (i don't have the manual on me).

World map looks gay compared to world map in originals. I mean the art style, not a fan. i'm talking about the atlas though, the actual thing you run on is pretty cool. Confused at the lack of rivers near erm, i'm around the Passaj entrance and all that stuff.

Why am I not going to bilibin! Why?

in 30 years, ok, upheaval and all that, but it feels like more than that amount of time has passed, as there are countries and all this shit, and one's already split up! I'd imagine it'd take a bit more than 30 years to build an empire, then die and have your sons war over it.

Why is crossbone isle not where it is in the original game?



Things I am loving.

Updated characters. Also, karis.

the way they came up with a way for them to all be young even though isaac n' co are like 47 now.

Tyrell. yes, use the psynergy on the kid who calls you stupid! yes! **** rief! (i have a feeling it was meant to be lief though)

new interactive psynergy and "zone of shit you can do in" as opposed to having to be in perfect position before.

easy

bitch

bitch

bitch


Story doesn't seem too bad so far, I just wanna go see people and see what happened, but it feels like it won't let me.

I hope i meet feizhi or something though :(

[FF Freak]

Finished Dark Dawn yesterday

and now we wait for Golden Sun 4. Did anyone else pick up the fact that Amiti is most likely Alex's son?

Enjoyed it though the character design outside of battles (i.e world control) still irritates me to no end because it doesn't feel as polished as the original games.

At the same time why do Isaac and Garett look like they've aged the 30 years even though they keep saying they don't look like they've aged a day? Also a little disappointed we didn't get to see many of the other original characters.

[Watchers]

Started playing recently, just starting to get into it now. Found this useful thread on Gamefaqs (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/960545-golden-sun-dark-dawn/57346255)for those who want to collect every djinn/summon before each 'point of no return', but don't want any real spoilers.

Since some are still just randomly scattered about the world map and can only be found through random encounters, I find this pretty useful.

[Queenie]

I played it, I liked it.

reveal's dumb cousin is kinda shit thou, i want reveal so i can not bother looking through crates.

XP increases were awesome, less grinding. Still grinding if you wanna, but it feels like you're getting somewhere.

Sound effects need to be less disney though- mr. Hamata, but i saw satoru iwata in the credits so i was all Hrmmmmm

it good, now I want news on the next one. and I hope it sells well so we don't get a sequel 15 years from now.

[ireadtabloids]

Lol, I should probably get around to buying this game.
It occurs to me that I pretty much payed nothing for all the joy the previous games brought me. Yay borrowed copies! If it's as good as the old games I should have a fair bit of fun ahead of me. Not to mention bang for buck!

[Queenie]

my first time round was about 35 hours, and that's without grinding to 99 (which is possible with the enemies before the final boss which give out RIDICULOUS xp (about 14-15k per enemy), or doing the final dungeons, or searching every barrel.

Unfortunately, the "reveal" that you get is late game and only does plot-based reveal. You must search every barrel and box, manually.

[ireadtabloids]

Yeah, that'd suck!
Why'd they change it?

[Watchers]

Finished it just now (well, I mean I just cleared the optional dungeon and final secret boss). Around Level 50 at the end. It was fun enough, but I mainly like the little puzzles and such. The random battles were ****ing horrible, with there being only a few boss battles requiring any strategy. And most of those could be beaten by setting all your djinn off before the fight and spamming your most powerful summons straight away.

They need to get rid of the archaic random battles and replace it with something else. I like the Tales system, but thinking outside the box would be good too. As is stands at the moment, I just ran from A to B mashing the A button anytime a battle occurred to spam autoattacks, then heal afterwards as necessary. Not really fun.