Perfect Dark Remake

[ireadtabloids]

A HD compatible version of N64 classic Perfect Dark has just been announced. The game will be able to run at 1080p at 60fps.

So far it seems like all the original features will be included, but now with a co-op campaign mode that actually works. There will probably be online features, but no firm details have been announced. Developer duties will not be undertaken by Rare, but instead by a lesser known studio who handled the PS3 port of Elder Scrolls: Oblivion.

Surely someone here is excited;)

[Antwandemarco]

Meh, it was a good game at the time but i thought it lacked atmosphere. A bit too saturday morning cartoon for me. Good news for those that like it though.

[Pauly]

yea personally at the time i thought it was great but i'm not sure how well it has aged. still great news.

[Jay]

I played it through 3/4 of the way again 2 or 3 years ago - I loved it all over again. The later levels can be quite challenging.

[Sweating Bullets]

I remember the last mission being quite annoying at parts.

The whole space side of things got a bit strange

[Xanafalgue]

I wonder if this warrants a PDZ playthrough.. I never got past the second stage :D

[Clockw0rk]

I liked how unlimited ammo - no reloads was significantly easier to unlock than just the standard unlimited ammo. Sadly it didn't apply to the Psychosis gun :(

I don't think many games since PD have had so many extra bits which add to the immersion - the Carrington Institute with the hologram training room, the target area, the hoverbike, the hovercrate, the gadget training etc. Actions in one mission affected things that would happen in the next - let someone live, and in the next stage he'd let you into a secret area. Finish the air base one way and you'd end up starting Air Force One in the cargo bay, making objectives easier. The Pond Punk bar in Chicago.

There was a huge variety of weapons that seemed more concerned with being Awesome and less concerned with being balanced (Farsight anyone?) and some innovative multiplayer modes (VIP, hold the briefcase etc were new ideas at the time). And tons of levels too. GRID! I can't freakin WAIT to play Grid again.

And the bots! It was always great to throw a Dark PeaceSim in the mix and run in terror whenever you saw one from fear of being blinded by its disarm punch.

I have trouble playing the N64 version thanks to the abysmal framerate, but I seriously can't wait for the remake. This time I will finish War on Perfect Agent!

[grimace06]

I must've been the only person on the planet who thought Goldeneye was a much better game.

But still, Perfect Dark with a smooth framerate should be interesting.

[Clockw0rk]

I must've been the only person on the planet who thought Goldeneye was a much better game.
Quite a few people have that opinion, though I've never really understood why, aside from the Bond aspect.

[Sweating Bullets]

I much preferred the story mode in Goldeneye.

[JONO RANDOM H3RO]

Do want.

Only for the multi though. This might replace Halo 3 as the game i'll play with my friends. On second thought, no it won't.

[Second]

I can imagine my brother and I playing this together. (1)

[Lex]

the only thing stopping me playing PD right now is the shitty controller and bad framerate. I'll be all over this shit.

[Fenrir]

So far it seems like all the original features will be included, but now with a co-op mode that actually works.
...er, what?

the shitty controller
Your N64 controller sticks are mangled, too?

[Lex]

Your N64 controller sticks are mangled, too?

mmm one of them is alright, but the controller itself is worthless for fps games.

[Aerodynamic]

I wonder if this warrants a PDZ playthrough.. I never got past the second stage :D

Haha same, it probably doesn't though. Glad I only paid $10 for it. Can't wait for this though. Anyone else remember the trick where you fired the camera rocket launcher in the shooting range, got it outside and found cheese on the balcony? The institute hub area was such a great idea.

[Fenrir]

but the controller itself is worthless for fps games.
I disagree, subsequent controllers haven't really added much to the FPS experience at all in my opinion.

[Second]

Right stick > C buttons.

[Fenrir]

Marginally; I have fielded the idea that a control stick significantly outperforms 4 directional buttons in a controller Vs keyboard&mouse argument a long time ago, but it's really only a minor enhancement. It's a frickin' FPS, you probably won't be doing any fine-tuned platforming. (definitely not in PD)

[Sweating Bullets]

The multiplayer on Xbox Live for Perfect Dark will be freaking awesome.
Can't wait!!

[Clockw0rk]

Hope it's like the planned Goldeneye release where it's split screen even on Live.

[Nic Xtreme]

I'm going to beat you all! Farsight = 100s of kills per match (vs. MeatSims <_<)

I can't wait for the Slayer only matches <3

[Clockw0rk]

Anyone remember the infinite kills glitch on Felicity? Cheap trick, but awesome.

[Nic Xtreme]

Anyone remember the infinite kills glitch on Felicity? Cheap trick, but awesome.

:O No! *Googles*

EDIT: Oooooooh, I'll have to try it one day!

[Clockw0rk]

Start a capture the flag (briefcase?) game in Felicity with timed mines as the only weapon. Put 8 meatsims on the opposing team, and keep restarting the game until they spawn with their base in the toilet area. After a short amount of time they'll throw a mine down in their base, kill themselves, pick up more mines after respawning, and kill themselves again. You get the kills for their deaths and they just keep ticking up and up.

[Nic Xtreme]

Start a capture the flag (briefcase?) game in Felicity with timed mines as the only weapon. Put 8 meatsims on the opposing team, and keep restarting the game until they spawn with their base in the toilet area. After a short amount of time they'll throw a mine down in their base, kill themselves, pick up more mines after respawning, and kill themselves again. You get the kills for their deaths and they just keep ticking up and up.

Gotta love MeatSims, as well as the rest of them. Perfect Dark had the best bots - my brothers and I loved having VengeSims on - Cassandra's head on Mr. Blonde's body was the scariest; as soon as you saw that creepy tall bitch appear, we used to shit our pants as she got her revenge. I loved how you could save your custom game types, right down to music choices and bot face/body combos. I really hope these can be played online with friends, and possibly even shared!

I used to be so uncreative with my character, though - I played Joanna Leather as my character, she kicks arse. Oh, and I love the scary crouch-walking animations...they looked like they were sliding around like daleks. Nothing worse than being killed by surprise, and a dalek Mr. Blonde slides past you as you fall...

[Mike-Towns]

I like Perfect Dark: Source.

[NiB]

I may be alone here, but I much prefer the control/aiming method of goldeneye and PD on consoles as opposed to the dual stick method.

I'm not saying its better, I couldn't imagine playing current FPS games without the dual stick setup. But I don't like the thought of playing PD using current gen control schemes.

Now if only they could remake the original Conkers multiplayer for live instead of the shit they put in the xbox remake...

[Lex]

I disagree, subsequent controllers haven't really added much to the FPS experience at all in my opinion.

you're wrong.

but it's really only a minor enhancement.

no it's not.

It's a frickin' FPS, you probably won't be doing any fine-tuned platforming. (definitely not in PD)

that's not the point at all. perfect dark didn't have a proper freelook aiming because buttons are worthless for camera control - it had that shitty 'hold r and the crosshair moves around the screen' system, and that was ****ing painful.

[Fenrir]

1.1?5

[sheeps]

I may be alone here, but I much prefer the control/aiming method of goldeneye and PD on consoles as opposed to the dual stick method.

I'm not saying its better, I couldn't imagine playing current FPS games without the dual stick setup. But I don't like the thought of playing PD using current gen control schemes.

I used to play PD and Goldeneye with two controllers whenever I could, 'twas awesome.

[Lex]

1.1?5

yeah. 2 bad controllers are better than one...

[[m]averick]

Lex is right, the controller set-up is horrible compared to the Halo configuration. You couldnt use the sniper rifle in split-screen Goldeneye because it took you about thirty seconds to line it up, while your friends sniggered at you.

Im torn on this re-release. The idea of current-gen Perfect Dark is amazing, it's still one of the most advanced games getting around, but surely a re-release will just highlight it's flaws and remove the charm? However, on the other hand, a re-release may mean I might finally finish the game on Agent (spent my whole time playing multiplayer + simulants, capture the case).

[Fenrir]

yeah. 2 bad controllers are better than one...
Of the Bond girls, did you happen to prefer...


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Ursula_Andress_as_Honey_Ryder_crop.jpg

...Honey, or...


http://jamesbond007.net/galerie/jane3.jpg

...Solitaire?

[SOX]

yeah. 2 bad controllers are better than one...

Nah I think Fenrir meant the second control scheme which made the C-buttons move forward/back and strafe left and right. So then you could free aim on the analogue stick.

But still, a second stick like on the 360 would provide better movement as it'd be analogue not digital.

[Fenrir]

Damnit, SOX, you're ruining everything!

[Sweating Bullets]

Of the Bond girls, did you happen to prefer...


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Ursula_Andress_as_Honey_Ryder_crop.jpg

...Honey, or...


http://jamesbond007.net/galerie/jane3.jpg

...Solitaire?

Alotta Fagina

http://fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/alotta-fagina.jpg

[ian]

I must've been the only person on the planet who thought Goldeneye was a much better game.

But still, Perfect Dark with a smooth framerate should be interesting.


in terms of story, graphics, framerate, and single player level design.. yes it was better
but for multi player options and levels, weapons, and sound perfect dark is.. perfect

over all.. perfect dark, i'd say is the better game, it was just ruined slightly by poorer graphics than ge and a piss weak framerate
BOTH OF WHICH THE 360 WILL FIX.

i was a rare fan before the snes and will be one after the 360. and perfect dark is up there with the best. not only in terms of rares games (still say conker takes number 1 and viva pinata number 3) but also as fps (its still the best console fps. i cop flack for this wherever i go but: HALO, AND TIMESPLITTERS SUCK in comparison... and yes you can make a counter claim when you've owned every game in all 3 series too ;)).

[Fenrir]

Alotta Fagina

http://fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/alotta-fagina.jpg
Whilst enticing, I am unaware of a GE control style named after her.

[Sweating Bullets]

Whilst enticing, I am unaware of a GE control style named after her.

I petition that we make one Fenrir.

[SOX]

I petition that we make one Fenrir.

http://www.shoppingblog.com/pics/wii_heartbeat_0609.jpg

[concrete donkey]

it seems that nintendo are doing everything else BUT make new games. i hate nintendo. i mean, i cant wait for perfect dark. hopefully it will be an awesome multiplayer

[sheeps]

What are you saying concrete donkey.

What has Nintendo got to do with anything and you're angry that they're not making new games but you're happy Perfect Dark is getting re-released.

[concrete donkey]

what have YOU got to do with nintendo?

[naclj]

I cant wait for this to come out.

Perfect Dark was the game i obsessed over the most during high school.
I remember how awesome it was that it came out the day after my last yr 12 mid year exam, so on my day off i got to spend it all playing 4 player split screen with my mates WAY into the morning.

I cant think of any game i played more than PD.

being able to give co-op /counter operative a go will be great (don't actually expect them to be good but at least playable with a solid frame rate.)

i remember giving PD a go via emulator to get a good frame rate and keyboard and mouse, never quite worked.

60fps Perfect Dark will be brilliant.

now all i need is the never ever going to happen 1080p 60fps Ocarina of Time Remake and i can forget all about stupid "NEW" games

[concrete donkey]

I cant wait for this to come out.

Perfect Dark was the game i obsessed over the most during high school.
I remember how awesome it was that it came out the day after my last yr 12 mid year exam, so on my day off i got to spend it all playing 4 player split screen with my mates WAY into the morning.

I cant think of any game i played more than PD.

being able to give co-op /counter operative a go will be great (don't actually expect them to be good but at least playable with a solid frame rate.)

i remember giving PD a go via emulator to get a good frame rate and keyboard and mouse, never quite worked.

60fps Perfect Dark will be brilliant.

now all i need is the never ever going to happen 1080p 60fps Ocarina of Time Remake and i can forget all about stupid "NEW" games

we spent so many weekends on the multiplayer. having different types of bots was great

[Xanafalgue]

http://www.shoppingblog.com/pics/wii_heartbeat_0609.jpg

WiiSexEducation is only a matter of time.

[ireadtabloids]

I hope you can still bop Carrington in the face during the gadget training. Take that you smug Scottish git, and that, and that! That's for being a complete arse of an intelligence boss and putting all our people in danger!

[fearofthesky]

I hope you can still bop Carrington in the face during the gadget training. Take that you smug Scottish git, and that, and that! That's for being a complete arse of an intelligence boss and putting all our people in danger!

Damn, need to spread before pepping ya, that sucks!
Oh man, I loved this game, and I know I'ma gonna love it all over again. The level design near the end of the game was the only thing that was remotely bad a bout it. OH and the ending.
I took it to school and hooked it up in the auditorium. four player split screen with 60 inches of screen real estate per player? We got kicked out after one too many raucous lunchtimes.
I had a holy trinity of 64 games we used to play constantly; Mario Kart 64 (Red Power Slides FTW), NBA Hangtime (Best game in the NBA JAM series IMO) and GoldenEye. But when PD came out that was it. Anyone remember how you had to buy the bloody RAM expansion pak just to play 90 pc of it? Without it you could only play 2 player Combat Simulator. No carrington Institute, no solo missions, nothing!
Anyway, Ima kill you all when this comes out. Hope they maintain a classic control scheme though. I was the only one of my mates who used the C buttons to move and the stick to aim. Love to see that replicated if just for retro kicks.

[Clockw0rk]

I hope you can still bop Carrington in the face during the gadget training. Take that you smug Scottish git, and that, and that! That's for being a complete arse of an intelligence boss and putting all our people in danger!
1. Get Hovercrate
2. Take Hovercrate to target practice
3. Do the "stand halfway in the door" trick and throw as many knives as possible into the crate during the Bronze test.
4. Take hovercrate full of knives to carrington's office
5. Go back to target area, blow hovercrate up with farsight
6. Do the "cloak" gadget training
7. Get to Carrington's office, pick up knives, select knives, fill Carrington with knives.
8. Oh, Joanna! How did you get here?

[AyatollaofRocknRolla]

1. Get Hovercrate
2. Take Hovercrate to target practice
3. Do the "stand halfway in the door" trick and throw as many knives as possible into the crate during the Bronze test.
4. Take hovercrate full of knives to carrington's office
5. Go back to target area, blow hovercrate up with farsight
6. Do the "cloak" gadget training
7. Get to Carrington's office, pick up knives, select knives, fill Carrington with knives.
8. Oh, Joanna! How did you get here?

I loved messing around doing stuff like that.

[ireadtabloids]

I think everyone did. I loved the combat simulator challenges and the Carrington Institute training facilities. All gold in the firing range! Worth every minute.

My favorite moment came during one of the combat challenges. I think it was Challenge 14. It featured one hit kills and the laptop gun. Through experimentation I eventually came to a strategy of deploying laptop guns every where in a little room as quickly as possible. Then I ran to an area where the bot had to cross a bridge to get to me. I then set myself up so I could just stick out from cover and take quick pot shots as the bot tried to cross the bridge. If I missed the bot would strafe and fall into the room below featuring laptop guns and be defeated anyway. Magic!

In other challenges you could exploit glitches to pause your enemies when you were in front and win.
You could exploit the bots choice of a powerful automatic weapon and camp in a small room holding a grenade launcher knowing your opponent had to activate a slowly activating automatic door to get to you. Fire off a few explosive rounds through the gap and then grab the body armour sitting just outside. Fantastic stuff!

[fearofthesky]

WHENWHENWHENWHEN! Sorry I'm not really adding much to the discussion here. Just......when?

You teased us with that theme Rare, now deliver, please.

[drzaius]

yes. when?

[Jickle]

I think they said on Twitter a while back it would probably be sometime in (our) Summer: Dec-Feb.

[drzaius]

until this thing is paid for and on my HDD i remain anxious that it will end in tragedy.

[Cerebral]

http://www.rare.co.uk/games/pdarcade/screenshots/pdxbla_06.jpg

http://www.rare.co.uk/games/pdarcade/screenshots/pdxbla_06com.jpg

Still obviously unfinished, but worth posting.

[Jickle]

Also,
http://www.rare.co.uk/games/pdarcade/screenshots/pdxbla_05.jpg
http://www.rare.co.uk/games/pdarcade/screenshots/pdxbla_05com.jpg

Surprised they're actually reminding people about the Skedar levels, though. :p

[FrozenSoul80]

Wow, I can actually see what is going on. Maybe I will buy this after all.

[Vindik8or]

Oh wow, check out those graphics improvements! It looks like the original Half Life now!

[FrozenSoul80]

Oh wow, check out those graphics improvements! It looks like the original Half Life now!

It's better than looking like a horribly compressed jpeg :p

[Blue]

This will be the best N64 game of all time!

I'm actually impressed by the graphics. I wasn't expecting much of an upgrade. I figured they'd just up the resolution, and clean up some textures, but this actually looks nice. Hopefully they've done the whole game, and not just selected patches of it to clean up.

[Clockw0rk]

This will be the best N64 game of all time!

I'm actually impressed by the graphics. I wasn't expecting much of an upgrade. I figured they'd just up the resolution, and clean up some textures, but this actually looks nice.
...What have they done aside from up the resolution and clean up the textures?
Hopefully they've done the whole game, and not just selected patches of it to clean up.
I think it would be a bit silly if they made some parts of the game hi-res and pretty and left other parts untouched. It's not an entire overhaul, the character/weapon models look the same, and the level geometry is unchanged. Still, pretty excited for this. Playable PD will be awesome.

[Blue]

...What have they done aside from up the resolution and clean up the textures?

I think it would be a bit silly if they made some parts of the game hi-res and pretty and left other parts untouched. It's not an entire overhaul, the character/weapon models look the same, and the level geometry is unchanged. Still, pretty excited for this. Playable PD will be awesome.Well, they've obviously done more than just clean up textures; they've replaced them entirely. And while level geometry is understandably untouched, those Skedar models are clearly built from scratch.

I wish the Goldeneye revamp had been released. It had been upgraded in a similar fashion. I would have played the absolute **** out of that game. Nintendo were just worried that when the HD version arrived on XBLA, and the VC only got the original, the vast differences would make the Wii look bad. That game was finished, and ****ing bureaucracy got in the way.

Anyway, at least we're getting this. In all honesty, I spent far more time with PD's multiplayer than I did Goldeneye's, but vice versa for single player.

[Cerebral]

...What have they done aside from up the resolution and clean up the textures?

I think it would be a bit silly if they made some parts of the game hi-res and pretty and left other parts untouched. It's not an entire overhaul, the character/weapon models look the same, and the level geometry is unchanged. Still, pretty excited for this. Playable PD will be awesome.

Actually, the weapon model for the CMP150 in those screens look a lot more detailed than the original (they even chucked in some iron sights). It's probably safe to assume the character models have been given a modest makeover as well.

[AyatollaofRocknRolla]

I'm glad the graphics won't be jarringly ugly. This is going to be a great.

[ireadtabloids]

This is looking brilliant!

I hope this link helps those looking for recent news
http://play.tm/wire/3134949/news-perfect-dark-xbla-rated/

It's already got it's classification, so I'm thinking early February release date. :)

More pics here on the official page.
http://www.rareware.com/

[Nic Xtreme]

This is looking brilliant!

I hope this link helps those looking for recent news
http://play.tm/wire/3134949/news-perfect-dark-xbla-rated/

It's already got it's classification, so I'm thinking early February release date. :)

More pics here on the official page.
http://www.rareware.com/

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I am pumped to the max!

[dimorphic]

This looks so good.

God I love the XBLA.

[grimace06]

Why can't it be Goldeneye instead?

[bulkerking]

Why can't it be Goldeneye instead?

I think Nintendo own some of the rights ?

So with Rare owned by Microsoft It doesn't seem likely :(
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[fearofthesky]

Well its about time! I'm sick of being teased by that free premium theme, laughing in in my face like Elvis's gurgling as you shoot im in his massive grey head with a Superdragon.

Jeez I hope they tweak the AI a touch, just so he doesn't fracking run in front of you constantly!

[sheeps]

It's gonna come out and everyone's going to realise how badly it has aged. Oh dear.

[Nic Xtreme]

Why can't it be Goldeneye instead?

Because Goldeneye was just the tech demo for Perfect Dark.

It's gonna come out and everyone's going to realise how badly it has aged. Oh dear.

Only the cynical old bastards and/or Halo-tards.

[AranchineD]

Exactly, people who haven't played a more advanced shooter than Perfect Dark are going to absolutely love Perfect Dark!

[Nic Xtreme]

Exactly, people who haven't played a more advanced shooter than Perfect Dark are going to absolutely love Perfect Dark!

Dude I said Halo not Modern Warfare 2 or Killzone 2 - people who love the latter two games obviously have taste and thus like Perfect Dark.

[aubergine]

Great that it wasn't refused classification. I hope they've upgraded it some and it turns out a win for Rare.

[AranchineD]

Dude I said Halo not Modern Warfare 2 or Killzone 2 - people who love the latter two games obviously have taste and thus like Perfect Dark.

People have taste if they like Killzone 2 now?

[Creedy]

It's a great game in every conceivable way.

[AranchineD]

It's an average game with absolutely nothing unique about it.

[sheeps]

lol, here we go.

[REQUIEM]

They shouldnt bother. GOW was understandable with GOW3 coming out this will just be an excuse to grab some cash on a dead game.

[aubergine]

I never played PD. If they've spruced up the graphics then I'll likely be there.

[concrete donkey]

I never played PD. If they've spruced up the graphics then I'll likely be there.

perfect dark was good, my fave part was the multiplayer. The story in single player starts out good, but then gets ruined... elvis *shudder*

[Nic Xtreme]

perfect dark was good, my fave part was the multiplayer. The story in single player starts out good, but then gets ruined... elvis *shudder*

I can't wait to engage in some sweet custom matches online! Slayer only, remote mines only, double magnums only, etc.

God I love Perfect Dark.

[Clockw0rk]

Grid, custom Power Weapons set.
Wonder how online will cope with 4 humans and 8 sims? Hopefully the framerate won't dip at all in local play.

[concrete donkey]

Grid, custom Power Weapons set.
Wonder how online will cope with 4 humans and 8 sims? Hopefully the framerate won't dip at all in local play.

the framerate SHOULD be constant 60. The graphics arent anything that will vex the 360 at all, so smooth 12 player games shouldnt be an issue.

[tau]

I really wish I didn't actually just read this whole thread. It went from OMG FINALLY 60FPS 1080p to goldeneye rox moar back to OMG FINALLY 60FPS 1080p. Killzone 2 fanboyism was in there somewhere.

[concrete donkey]

I really wish I didn't actually just read this whole thread. It went from OMG FINALLY 60FPS 1080p to goldeneye rox moar back to OMG FINALLY 60FPS 1080p. Killzone 2 fanboyism was in there somewhere.

maybe becoz game developers regularly let us down? i dunno..

[Clockw0rk]

I really wish I didn't actually just read this whole thread. It went from OMG FINALLY 60FPS 1080p to goldeneye rox moar back to OMG FINALLY 60FPS 1080p. Killzone 2 fanboyism was in there somewhere.
Yeah, sadly there's not been much news so it's gone from "omg excited" to "where's more news?" to "trollan" to "omg news excited".
A developer diary would be fun but it'd probably only highlight how lazy these ****s are, seeing as they can't even get the game out before the new year.

[Munky]

Killzone 2 Is the blandest most generic game I've ever played.

It lacked anything resembling spark.

[Clockw0rk]

Fair enough, but that probably belongs in the Killzone 2 thread.

[Creedy]

Are people seriously more interested in a remake than any other potential great FPS, like AvP?

[Clockw0rk]

Given that the AvP thread is twice as long as this one, I'd say no.

[Creedy]

Most of the talk is crap about censorship though.

[concrete donkey]

Are people seriously more interested in a remake than any other potential great FPS, like AvP?

im dubious about AvP.. i know that PD is great. thats all..

[aubergine]

Can't people want both? I do. There's nothing much to discuss about AVP though, I hope it lives up to the eRlier games.

[Clockw0rk]

I guess we could discuss the censorship issues surrounding the game?

[SOX]

Resistance 2 Is the blandest most generic game I've ever played.

It lacked anything resembling spark.

[buckstwits]

Did you play the first one?

[fishonthecarpet]

I love how in the screenshots they have given Joanna bigger boobies.

[fishonthecarpet]

http://xcastonline.com/index.php/News/perfect-dark-xbla-gets-online-co-op.html

[jawsy]

Bigger boobies are one of the requirements of this generation.

I just hope they've done something truly worthwhile to the game and added some sweet jiggle.

[Xanafalgue]

Looks really nice, a billion times easier on the eye than the original ;)

Shame I couldn't come out before the end of the year, hopefully we don't have to wait too long.

[Shorty]

I really wish I didn't actually just read this whole thread. It went from OMG FINALLY 60FPS 1080p to goldeneye rox moar back to OMG FINALLY 60FPS 1080p. Killzone 2 fanboyism was in there somewhere.

I actually found it all rather amusing.

[9warbane]

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[fishonthecarpet]

:O
it's so smooth... i think i just came

[SOX]

8 Players over Live sounds pretty sweet everything else was entirely underwhelming (not that I should be expecting anything from a game that old)

[Blue]

8 Players over Live sounds pretty sweet everything else was entirely underwhelming (not that I should be expecting anything from a game that old)Yeah, I was actually a tiny bit disappointed … The screenshots seemed to show more improvement than has actually been made. But I'm sure that playing split-screen multi or jumping on Live, all at 60FPS, will still be brilliant.

[Clockw0rk]

8 Players over Live sounds pretty sweet everything else was entirely underwhelming (not that I should be expecting anything from a game that old)
Yeah, I was actually a tiny bit disappointed … The screenshots seemed to show more improvement than has actually been made.
For all the haters, I'd definitely recommend going back and playing Perfect Dark, if you're able. This is a massive improvement. I'm quite looking forward to Attack Ship: Covert Assault - there's a section where you have to hold the ship's bridge and the framerate slows to a crawl more than in any other section of the game.

One of the things in PD that I never managed to do was unlock Unlimited Ammo, No Reloads (complete the air base level on Special Agent in 3:11, IIRC). Definitely aiming for it this time around :D

EDIT: In the original PD, one of the available heads for multiplayer was Shigeru Miyamoto's. Somehow I doubt it'll be in the remake, but it'd be pretty hilarious if it was.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

It'll be Bill Gates.

[Dr Skinnybones]

EDIT: In the original PD, one of the available heads for multiplayer was Shigeru Miyamoto's. Somehow I doubt it'll be in the remake, but it'd be pretty hilarious if it was.

I always played with the head that looked like George Lucas on Joanna's trenchcoat body.

[dimorphic]

I was evil Bond :D.

[Ninjalada]

I wonder if this warrants a PDZ playthrough.. I never got past the second stage :D

Is that the mansion infiltration mission? I never got past it either. I kept getting spotted by a guard/camera that saw me through a wall or something. After 20 attempts I gave up and never played the game again.

[fishonthecarpet]

I've never got past the first level either.

Most of the design is OK... but I just can't stand the horribly unresponsive controls. Makes it feel like you're playing it drunk.

[Jay]

Maybe try playing it drunk. It might correct itself. :p

To those who didn't get past that early level I have two things to say - there are one or two fantastic levels towards the end of the game (admittedly in amongst a bunch of average ones), and the game is infinitely more fun played Co-op. The bridge assault at the very end is quite something.

[Stevorooni]

I never completed the original, made it up to the last big alien thing but could never beat him

[JC Henderson]

I have forgotten so much of this game even though I played it religiousely through uni. I do remember though not likeing the alien levels very much at all.

[NiB]

Managed to get to the 6th rank in MP on the 64, hopefully there's a stats/lving system for e peen bragging rights (obviously all weapons need to be useable from the get go)

[Zace]

This will be bad.

[aubergine]

I never actually played Perfect Dark so I guess I've got a treat in store. Well I'd better at least, or I'll be coming back to destroy the entire internet.

[Spazzallo]

I will be selling MW2 in a heartbeat if this game has local search. Also can't wait to play some counter-co op with people who actually know how to play the game!

[fishonthecarpet]

I've never wanted Live before now :P

[Clockw0rk]

Another bug I remembered:

In one of the multiplayer maps, there's a thin platform lift going up and down. If one person stands on it and the other stands underneath it, the bottom person will be pushed through the elevator and the top person will then be standing on his head. The elevator will go up, but the players won't go down with it and will float in the air. Then, when the elevator comes back up again, they will be pushed up further, through the ceiling and as far out of the level as they want to go.

[Jay]

Eurogamer review up. Excitement building...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/perfect-dark-review

[Xanafalgue]

Eurogamer review up. Excitement building...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/perfect-dark-review

OMG *coma*

[Clockw0rk]

There are two other changes that are probably worth mentioning, both of them for the better. Practically everything is unlocked from the get-go, meaning you no longer have to slog through the main campaign to piece your multiplayer options together,
Kinda good, but also kinda sad. I liked unlocking things. Can't wait for N-bomb spam though :D
EDIT: I realise the cheats will most likely still require unlocking. But the "everything unlocked" deal makes the challenges pointless as they were the only way to get certain levels and guns.

It also makes the firing range less cool. It was cool doing a mission then coming back to the Carrington Institute and finding all those cool new guns in the firing range. Now I guess they'll all be there from the start. I hope the gadget training and hologram rooms still have to be unlocked bit by bit. And the Hangar/Office PC bios, come to think of it.

[Jay]

OMG *coma*

Okay, whatever the ****ing hell that means. So it doesn't interest you? Why ****ing waste your time posting in here then?

[Xanafalgue]

Okay, whatever the ****ing hell that means. So it doesn't interest you? Why ****ing waste your time posting in here then?

God, get with it. Coma = state of extacy. I'm excited :D so stfu.

[Spudzilla]

?????

[sheeps]

I ****ing love golf because it's so boring.

[adam_91vn]

How the hell is this only 800 points

[aubergine]

Is it out like tomorrow or something, or is it next week?

[Clockw0rk]

Should be out on the 17th.

[Clockw0rk]

How's That For Starters? 10
Complete dataDyne Central - Defection.

Both Barrels 5
Kill an enemy when dual-wielding

Act Your Age, Joanna 5
Destroy Carrington's wine collection.

Double 64 10
Kill 128 enemies using secondary fire mode.

Camera Shy 10
Destroy 5 security cameras.

Deadly Laptop 10
Kill 50 enemies using the laptop in sentry gun mode.

Paci-Fist 10
Complete any Solo Mission on Special Agent or harder using only your fists.

Tools Of The Trade 10
Get a Bronze rating or better with all 32 weapons in the Firing Range.

Versatile 10
Complete a Combat Simulator game using each of the six Scenarios.

Golden Days 10
Complete a Combat Simulator game on Felicity, Complex or Temple using Classic Weapons.

Prime Target 10
Complete every Challenge up to and including 29, the 10th Prime number.

A Friend Indeed 10
Complete any mission in Co-operative Mode.

...Who Needs Enemies? 10
Complete any mission in Counter-Operative Mode.

dataDyne Specialist 10
Kill at least one enemy with each of the dataDyne weapons.

Carrington Institute Specialist 10
Kill at least one enemy with each of the Carrington Institute weapons.

Maian Specialist 10
Kill at least one enemy with each of the Maian weapons.

Agent 10
Complete the Solo Missions on Agent

Special Agent 15
Complete the Solo Missions on Special Agent.

Perfect Agent 20
Complete the Solo Missions on Perfect Agent.

Crowning Glory 5
Earn all the Leaderboard Crowns.

[fishonthecarpet]

Golden Days 10
Complete a Combat Simulator game on Felicity, Complex or Temple using Classic Weapons.

That's one of the more genius moves they pulled, allowing you to use goldeneye guns in multiplayer :D

[Clockw0rk]

Is it confirmed that all the Goldeneye guns are available?
The original Perfect Dark included about 8 original guns but not the whole lot, and it's already been mentioned that the Goldeneye maps included are only the 3 that were originally in PD (which changed the level geometry slightly, in case you've forgotten).

[aubergine]

Don't you mean "facility"?

[fishonthecarpet]

I'm pretty sure it's just the 8 or so available in the original PD. Haven't seen any evidence otherwise!


Don't you mean "facility"?
For some reason they called it Felicity in PD. Possibly because it was the only level actually based off the Goldeneye movie license included in PD.

[aubergine]

Okay. Glad to know it is the same level. A friend and I used to play Goldeneye stupid amounts in 1997-8 so this will be a rocket blast from the past.

[fishonthecarpet]

It's the best we're gonna get to an online Goldeneye :)

[Clockw0rk]

Perfect Dark had better multiplayer

[HiredMan]

What's the name of that awesome machine gun in Goldeneye with the massive magazine and rate of fire? We used to refer to it as "The Granny ****er" back in the day for some reason...

[Clockw0rk]

RC-P90 (PD Classic name: RC-P45)
Successor: RC-P120 (secondary mode: Cloak)

[Nic Xtreme]

Can't wait for this to come out! Slayer only matches here we come! :D

[Spazzallo]

Remote mines in facility = awesome. Can't wait :D. Such golden memories, including mining up team mates before running them into a room where someone else was camping :).

[Clockw0rk]

Can't wait for this to come out! Slayer only matches here we come! :D
Slayer Races FTW :D

[jawsy]

I still dream about my SuperDragon.

[Jay]

What's the name of that awesome machine gun in Goldeneye with the massive magazine and rate of fire? We used to refer to it as "The Granny ****er" back in the day for some reason...

Ha ha it's funny the stupid nicknames you come up with for stuff when there are four of you crowded around one telly. We used to call the body armour 'The Stiffie' because of the zipper sound it made when you picked it up. 'Ooh I've got the Stiffie!'. Retarded. But awesome. :)

[AranchineD]

LOOK OUT GUYS I HAVE THE PENCILl GUN

[naclj]

I've already got Friday night booked with mates who are bringing their 360's round for some 8 player old school death match, this does work over LAN doesn't it???
i really hope its not one of those crappy online only games as my home net is really slow at the moment and wont support 8 people

[Tonez]

I've already got Friday night booked with mates who are bringing their 360's round for some 8 player old school death match, this does work over LAN doesn't it???
i really hope its not one of those crappy online only games as my home net is really slow at the moment and wont support 8 people

Looks like you will be disappointed:

http://www.co-optimus.com/game/1484/Xbox_Live_Arcade/Perfect_Dark_HD.html

[naclj]

Looks like you will be disappointed:

http://www.co-optimus.com/game/1484/Xbox_Live_Arcade/Perfect_Dark_HD.html

wow, you just ruined my day but conversely saved my friday.
Thanks for the info.
That said, is that ONLY for co-op or for multi as well?

[Tonez]

wow, you just ruined my day but conversely saved my friday.
Thanks for the info.
That said, is that ONLY for co-op or for multi as well?

Well it's saying Local Co-Op is available.

[Lex]

That's ****ing retarded. Half the reason I was gonna get this was for local LAN.

[fishonthecarpet]

Yeah, especially co-op, would have been great.

[Clockw0rk]

Looks like there's a couple of people complaining about the control schemes. Apparently there are no "Legacy" controls (Left stick forward/backwards and turning, right stick look up/down and strafing) and there's no way to strafe run so hitting target times to get cheats is more difficult.

*shrug*

Inability to strafe run might be a pain, especially since I'm keen to unlock as many cheats as possible. Lack of Legacy controls doesn't bother me since it doesn't really work the same on an Xbox controller as it did on the N64.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

So where's my god damned demo?

[Clockw0rk]

Launch should be about 7-8pm your time, 9-10pm NZ time. Standard for XBLA games.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

THIS IS NO STANDARD XBLA GAME!secretcaps!

[Stevorooni]

Bought a new 12 month Gold subscription and 1000 points in preparation for this game

[aubergine]

Isn't this out yet! I went back to bed, and when I got up, IT STILL WASNT OWT-

[FrozenSoul80]

Shouldn't be too long now. I think I might actually buy it, I never got to play it properly as a kid (didn't own it, only got to play multiplayer with friends) and the game is pretty unplayable on N64 now.

[Silph]

You can apparently get the game now by using http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802584109c2/?p=1&of=0&bt=0&sb=1.

Add the trial to your queue then buy it in the game. Downloading now. :cool:

[naclj]

You can apparently get the game now by using http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802584109c2/?p=1&of=0&bt=0&sb=1.

Add the trial to your queue then buy it in the game. Downloading now. :cool:

sweet that worked a treat, also downloading now.
well theres the rest of my night gone

[Stevorooni]

It's up now, it hasn't appeared in the 'New' section yet but if you look up Perfect Dark the trial and full game are now in the list.


9% DOWNLOADED

[Nic Xtreme]

Holy shit it's up? ajgnalrrngalnsrhnvlJNSV

EDIT: Oh I see, not on the Xbox, only on the computer. How do you transfer it over? USB?

[fishonthecarpet]

You can apparently get the game now by using http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802584109c2/?p=1&of=0&bt=0&sb=1.

Add the trial to your queue then buy it in the game. Downloading now. :cool:

I knew there was a reason I kept coming to these forums. Thankyou sir.

[FrozenSoul80]

Downloading now. This better be good.

[fishonthecarpet]

Mine is staying at 1%... grrr

[Cerebral]

Ahhh, they blocked it.

Wanna die.

Edit: They didn't block it! Life is good.

[fearofthesky]

12 percent! :)

[Clockw0rk]

It's 11pm here. I'm in bed with my girlfriend...
"Want to check if the game is up?"

LOVE HER

[Cerebral]

****ing hold onto that one.

[fearofthesky]

I reckon.

DOWNLOADED! Instant update. Interesting.

[Stevorooni]

tried the demo, went to unlock the full thing and it gives a "Could not retrieve information from Xbox LIVE" error

AT LEAST THE FIRST LEVEL IS OK

[Clockw0rk]

I added it to the download queue and it said "assigned to another console"
****. If it's permanently assigned to my other box AFTER I DID A LICENCE TRANSFER I'm going to murder someone at Microsoft.

[fearofthesky]

Was the auto aim always this generous? It may have been to compensate for the C buttons lack of precision. But you can nail anyone on screen with a burst from the CMP150, with only minor aim adjustment. And it seems they got rid of the bullshit blurryness whenever you take a melee hit!

clockwork, that is very odd. Must be a bug, surely...

[TrinityJayOne]

Holy shit it's up? ajgnalrrngalnsrhnvlJNSV

EDIT: Oh I see, not on the Xbox, only on the computer. How do you transfer it over? USB?
No no, no transferring at all! That's just the online version of the XBLA, specifically the American version. You can buy games and they are automatically added to your download queue, then when your Xbox next signs into Live the download starts automatically. It's common to check online for big releases because you can queue the download from a different XBLA region (eg Holland and Canada always seem to get the Forza 3 DLC before us) and it will still download and work, even when it might not be in the marketplace on your console yet. Gee, maybe Microsoft funbucks aren't so bad after all. ;)

[fearofthesky]

Where in the **** is my bro to split this download with? I promised I'd wait...just added TJ1, fishonthecarpet and FrozenSoul80 for multiplayer LOL's later this evening.

[Cerebral]

Get the same error as Stevo.

Did the first challenge. Take that yellow meatsim.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I added it to the download queue and it said "assigned to another console"

Mine says that too, but it's downloading.

Do I need to call Microsoft and do a license transfer? I assumed all that shit was automated with the repair.

[fishonthecarpet]

aww man I won't have multiplayer live till tomorrow :(

p.s. hurry up and make the full version available microsoft please :)

[TrinityJayOne]

I see you also have Scrap Metal! :D We'll have to get some MP going some time. As for PD, I won't be able to pick it up until the weekend most likely. I'm not much for shooters, but this is another Nintendo classic that I feel obligated to remove from my "haven't played it!" list.

I know which console it's assigned to btw.




















http://videogeisha.com/images/nintendo_64.jpg

:D

[TrinityJayOne]

Mine says that too, but it's downloading.

Do I need to call Microsoft and do a license transfer? I assumed all that shit was automated with the repair.
You really shouldn't, unless they've gotten lazy. My 360's innards were replaced too and I've never had such issues.

[fearofthesky]

I see you also have Scrap Metal! :D We'll have to get some MP going some time. As for PD, I won't be able to pick it up until the weekend most likely. I'm not much for shooters, but this is another Nintendo classic that I feel obligated to remove from my "haven't played it!" list.


You won't regret it! I'm having such awesome flashbacks to my childhood. I'm too excited, I think I just confirmed to my Facebook friends that I am, indeed, a nerd. My last vestige of cool is gone!

And Scrap Metal is awesome too...lets race soon.

[FrozenSoul80]

Not feeling it. Guess I didn't spend enough time with it back in the day.

Overall the whole thing just feels dated, and I don't remember the last time I saw doors in a FPS. Might give it another try tomorrow.

[Nic Xtreme]

Argh error fail :( Same one as you peoples...

No no, no transferring at all! That's just the online version of the XBLA, specifically the American version. You can buy games and they are automatically added to your download queue, then when your Xbox next signs into Live the download starts automatically. It's common to check online for big releases because you can queue the download from a different XBLA region (eg Holland and Canada always seem to get the Forza 3 DLC before us) and it will still download and work, even when it might not be in the marketplace on your console yet. Gee, maybe Microsoft funbucks aren't so bad after all. ;)

Ah nice I didn't realise this! One of the fixes support.microsoft.com offered for the above error is to buy it online then let it download to your Xbox, so maybe I'll try that.

EDIT: It works. Buy it on the site people! Woohoo!

[Silph]

It was asking for redemption code a while ago but it does work now, yeah. Buy!

[Stevorooni]

Still can't buy the full game through the console or even through the website.

Lame, I'm going to bed. If Microsoft don't want my money then I simply won't give it to them! (until tomorrow maybe)

[Lex]

Can't get it through the site either. Although apparently doing it through the american one works. **** it.

[aubergine]

I think Blake said he dl'd scrap metal too, I've got the trial. 1200 points is an ugly, ugly price point to me.

[Grubdog]

Can't get on either... can download the trial but the full game gives me an error code.

[naclj]

well i got the trial and dont want to get into it fully until its the full version.
bloody error codes. i remember the exact same thing happen with shadow complex on day 1.

as for the remake, the bump in res looks great and moves at a nice rate. will give it more time but manual aim is horrible. it brings back good memories but im interested to see how impatient i have become as well as how much i remember

[Jay]

I just managed to get it by downloading the trial, playing the first level, and when it gave me the option of downloading the full game (for earning an avatar or something), I chose 'unlock full game'. It worked fine. Prior to doing that I was getting the error message.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I think Blake said he dl'd scrap metal too, I've got the trial. 1200 points is an ugly, ugly price point to me.

Yeah the trial, but with all the work I have due I'll never get to play it.

Also I don't really see the point in the different control schemes in perfect dark if none of them give me move and look on the one stick.

I NEVER GOT USED TO DUAL STICKS OK?

[aubergine]

I usually turn auto-aim off on console shooters but immediatly turned it back on with this one, seemed pretty impossible to control precisely. I am pretty surprised they didn't include an n64 control equivalent.

Given how, even with the reskin, very ugly the game is by current standards, I still felt a particular thrill when a crowd of guards opened fire on my elevator and glass shattered all around me. I didn't expect the game to have an effect like that so it was a
real retro kind of surprise - how my younger self would have been amazed by it OMG GLASS.

I remember being amazed by the (horrible!) realistic faces on Goldeneye's characters...

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Have they changed Jo's voice?

[fishonthecarpet]

It's pretty freaking tough without auto aim, I've been trying to tough it through though.

But it makes playing on Perfect Agent bloody hard.

Voices seem to be the same.

[Clockw0rk]

Downloaded fine this morning.
It also makes the firing range less cool. It was cool doing a mission then coming back to the Carrington Institute and finding all those cool new guns in the firing range. Now I guess they'll all be there from the start. I hope the gadget training and hologram rooms still have to be unlocked bit by bit. And the Hangar/Office PC bios, come to think of it.
They ****ed that one up. Everything else is acceptable.

[Nic Xtreme]

This port is fantastic. The game looks absolutely gorgeous!

I almost had a major nerd rage last night when I was making a combat simulator game and there were hardly any weapons - I thought they omitted most of them. Of course, when I bought the original game it was second hand and they were automatically there. Now, I find, that it seems you must unlock them. Not sure how. All I know is that the firing range seems to add more guns as I play through single player.

For the control scheme haters, Rare tweeted this morning that for those who want the original scheme, they're looking into it.

[Cobla]

I so expected to love this (as I did the original) but playing the trial made me nauseous to the point where I had to stop playing or else I was gonna spew.

This has never happened to me before with any other game! ARGH

[Stevorooni]

Finally managed to get the full version this morning, but then I had to put some pants on and go to work :(

[Clockw0rk]

Finally managed to get the full version this morning, but then I had to put some pants on and go to work :(
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. Can't play tonight either - first time I've ever not wanted to go to a bachelor party.

Didn't check what guns were unlocked in the combat simulator, looks like you may have to do challenges to unlock them, then? Fun.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I so expected to love this (as I did the original) but playing the trial made me nauseous to the point where I had to stop playing or else I was gonna spew.

All the floor lights reminded me of this poll I made years back for my website:

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/Temp/pd0.gif

I sent it to Rare.

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/Temp/RarewareLetter-02.jpg


lol I also sent them this one:

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/Temp/RarewareLetter-03.jpg

[Cobla]

All the floor lightsIndeed, how does lining the floor with blinding lights help Datadyne have a successful business? And having your desk workers hold guns all the time? Not exactly the recipe for productivity... OR IS IT?

[Tonez]

Downloaded the demo.

Unfortunately, rather then bringing back nostalgia, all it did for me was highlight how far we've come since then.

[Jay]

Downloaded the demo.

Unfortunately, rather then bringing back nostalgia, all it did for me was highlight how far we've come since then.

Whereas I've had exactly the opposite experience. Loving it, even the fact that it is so easy to get lost on that first level.

[Stevorooni]

When I gave the full version a go this morning, the first thing I did was fire up an empty multiplayer game with the classic Goldeneye Facility level. memories

[AyatollaofRocknRolla]

I had all sorts of trouble getting this game last night. I managed to finally get it to download when I manually browsed to it in the market place and downloaded the trial, then upgraded to the full version straight away.

I'm actually surprised how much I was enjoying it. It's still a hoot watching enemies react to getting shot, and that clumsy roll they bust out every so often. It's definitely quite a throwback, but at the same time it doesn't feel like a game I haven't played in about 8 years. I turned off auto aim since that was annoying me, but I must say that its hard to aim with the second stick. It's easier just to strafe to line up the shot. I'm sure I'll adapt.


Can anyone tell me what the head roll and look straight options do? I couldn't tell when I activated and deactivated them.



It also makes the firing range less cool. It was cool doing a mission then coming back to the Carrington Institute and finding all those cool new guns in the firing range. Now I guess they'll all be there from the start. I hope the gadget training and hologram rooms still have to be unlocked bit by bit. And the Hangar/Office PC bios, come to think of it.


In the shooting range the guns unlock as you access them in the main game as before. At a glance the PC's seem to have all the files available. I'm not sure about the gadget training.

[Clockw0rk]

In the shooting range the guns unlock as you access them in the main game as before. At a glance the PC's seem to have all the files available. I'm not sure about the gadget training.

Gadget Training and Firing Range are both unlocked progressively as in the first game. The bios, however, are all there from the start, which is a shame.

[Jickle]

What difficulty are people playing through on? I started up on Secret Agent, found the objectives horribly vague, and realised that running and gunning through Agent mode would probably be more fun.

Also, simulants > playing random folks online with horrible lag and multiple teamkills.

[Clockw0rk]

I picked up the strategy guide many years back for $5 (and can remember most of the game anyway) so the objectives aren't an issue, though thinking back I can see how it would be difficult to figure things out given that most of it is pretty vague. Chicago: Stealth is particularly bad for it, especially on Perfect Agent.

Here's a couple of tips I remembered for specific levels:

Area 51: Escape
On Agent difficulty, to finish in the time limit required for the Invincibility cheat you should let Jonathan open the doors for you. On all other difficulties you should choose to do the doors yourself, as it means Jonathan will appear in the Carrington Institute: Defence level and assist you with an objective.

Air Base: Espionage
Overloading the laser grid and entering the plane from underneath allows you to bypass an objective in Special Agent or higher on the next level.

Air Force One: I can't remember the subtitle
In the cargo hold (you start here if you enter the plane from underneath) there's a hoverbike. Releasing it from its restraints means it'll appear in Crash Site: Confrontation, allowing you to travel through the level much quicker.

[Lex]

Downloaded the demo.

Unfortunately, rather then bringing back nostalgia, all it did for me was highlight how far we've come since then.

Yeah, I was the opposite of this. All it reminded me of is how far head of it's time PD was, and how little fps has changed since then. Why the **** is counter-op not a staple of every single game that could possibly support it?

[fishonthecarpet]

I've got one of those old strategy guides too. Damn near essential for Perfect Agent, which I'm going through on, it's bloody hard, especially with these new controls. Takes a bit of getting used to. I've found that lowering the sensitivity helps for me.

I've had some pretty hilarious multiplayer battles. Easy to get frustrated sometimes when you can't find a weapon before getting mowed down by the guy with two RP90s, but the arcade style is refreshing. Lag isn't too bad all the time too.

I've tried some online Co-Op a couple of times but have found it unplayable.

I'll be on tonight with a a friend around 7:30pm WA time if anyone is keen, add me :)

p.s. Lex, agreed, counter op is amazing. Can't wait to play it online.

Edit: Are we realllly limited to 4 sims now, or do you have to unlock them? Pretty sure you didn't in the N64 one.

What difficulty are people playing through on? I started up on Secret Agent, found the objectives horribly vague, and realised that running and gunning through Agent mode would probably be more fun.

Also, simulants > playing random folks online with horrible lag and multiple teamkills.

Been checking on the menus to read about the objectives beforehand? Quite helpful.

[Clockw0rk]

Sim personalities have to be unlocked in the challenges.

[Tonez]

Alright Lex and Jay, on your advice I'm going to give this another go tonight.

My cousin gave me a 1500MP voucher for free so I may well just purchase it for MP with you blokes.

[fishonthecarpet]

Sim personalities have to be unlocked in the challenges.

yep, but i mean actual numbers of bots ingame. I couldn't put in more than 4 when creating my own game... n64 you could do 8. Gypped!

[IsItDead?]

yep, but i mean actual numbers of bots ingame. I couldn't put in more than 4 when creating my own game... n64 you could do 8. Gypped!

You need to complete the first 8 (I think?) challenges to be able to add 8 sims.

[fishonthecarpet]

thanks, hopefully you're right!

[aubergine]

All the floor lights reminded me of this poll I made years back for my website:

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/Temp/pd0.gif

I sent it to Rare.

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/Temp/RarewareLetter-02.jpg


lol I also sent them this one:

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/Temp/RarewareLetter-03.jpg

had a good laugh at that last one. Couldn't see the pics when you posted it the other day for some reason.

[Spazzallo]

Hopefully I get moved into a real house soon so I can play this online :( off to my mates house tomorrow to download this!

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

had a good laugh at that last one. Couldn't see the pics when you posted it the other day for some reason.

That's because I posted them this morning.

[Lex]

well that was a horrid online experience. craptastic lag, and that's when I could get a match that would last longer than a minute; for some reason every single match I played was a knife+mines game, and that's shit, so everyone dropped out.

[Nic Xtreme]

well that was a horrid online experience. craptastic lag, and that's when I could get a match that would last longer than a minute; for some reason every single match I played was a knife+mines game, and that's shit, so everyone dropped out.

That sucks :( Has anyone tried a Private game over Live yet? Does it run much better?

[Thraxas]

Can we set up a hyper game?

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

For the control scheme haters, Rare tweeted this morning that for those who want the original scheme, they're looking into it.

Note on controls: if your preferred style isn't catered for in #PerfectDark XBLA, all we can say is it's being looked into. No promises...

That doesn't fill me with confidence.

[Clockw0rk]

In PD on N64, you could unlock certain cheats by starting the game up with a copy of Perfect Dark for GBC in the transfer Pak. The same cheats can be unlocked in PD on XBLA by installing PD0 to your Hard Drive. Neat.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

The difference is that PD on the GBC was good http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/Emoticons/emot-iceburn.gif

I added it to the download queue and it said "assigned to another console"
****. If it's permanently assigned to my other box AFTER I DID A LICENCE TRANSFER I'm going to murder someone at Microsoft.

Did you use the online thingy (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/systemuse/xbox360/licensemigration/faq.htm) for that? I just ran that and saw I had a bunch of stuff spread across both, and that fixed it. Then you just have to re-download (even if they're still on your HD) the stuff you want to be able to play offline again.

It was a pain in the dick for all the GH track packs.

[V²]

maybe ill finally fire up the perfect dark you sold me blake.. oh

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

You'll never play that game AS WAS MY PLAN ALL ALONG!

[V²]

the contacted case sits on my self, mocking me everyday that i paid 20? for it.
Imagine what i could have done with that money, and what did you spend it on?
Hookers and drugs i bet

[Clockw0rk]

The difference is that PD on the GBC was good http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/Emoticons/emot-iceburn.gif
It really, really wasn't. Maybe in comparison to PD0 but otherwise it was a shit game. A character named Max Danger? Really?
Did you use the online thingy (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/systemuse/xbox360/licensemigration/faq.htm) for that? I just ran that and saw I had a bunch of stuff spread across both, and that fixed it. Then you just have to re-download (even if they're still on your HD) the stuff you want to be able to play offline again.

It was a pain in the dick for all the GH track packs.
It's all sorted now and works normally and is assigned to the correct Xbox, I'd just tried the online thing last night and it gave me grief.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

the contacted case sits on my self, mocking me everyday that i paid 20? for it.
Imagine what i could have done with that money, and what did you spend it on?
Hookers and drugs i bet

Oh you bought the 64 version? Then who bought my GBC one? Kev?

It really, really wasn't. Maybe in comparison to PD0 but otherwise it was a shit game. A character named Max Danger? Really?

Dude, look at these graphics! (http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/perfect-dark-commercial/191435)

Pretty good for a GBC game!

[V²]

Oh you bought the 64 version? Then who bought my GBC one? Kev?
Pretty good for a GBC game!

I did purchase the GBC version
you dont even remember me do you.
i was the one you left pregnant!

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Oh sorry I thought you were that other nerd that bought the 64 version off me.

Wait, which nerd are you again?

[Clockw0rk]

From the looks of the Level 1 (Datadyne Infiltration) leaderboards, the "complete the level in 6 seconds" glitch is still there. I never did figure it out.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

You just get the ship to drop you off at the basement elevator at the start.

[Stevorooni]

Playing through on Agent so I can just mow down through all the enemies with ease.

I couldn't actually remember much about Perfect Dark on the N64 before, but as I'm playing this the memories are coming back

[AyatollaofRocknRolla]

What difficulty are people playing through on? I started up on Secret Agent, found the objectives horribly vague, and realised that running and gunning through Agent mode would probably be more fun.

Also, simulants > playing random folks online with horrible lag and multiple teamkills.

I started out on secret agent and having adjusted to the controls I'm finding it fairly easy. That said even after all these years I remember the levels quite well as I'm playing through them. The objectives are a bit vague, be sure to read the extra info in the menu for each one. You'll find most things out just poking around the levels, often there's a prompt when you are in the right area for an objective.



You need to complete the first 8 (I think?) challenges to be able to add 8 sims.

Thats good to know. I was wondering about that after only being able to add four to a game last night. I'm looking foward to some mass Meat Sim slaughter.

[Lex]

I truly don't remember having to fight a helicopter in thethird level, which is odd because it's rad as shit. I did always hate that level though, so maybe I just blocked it out.

[Clockw0rk]

I truly don't remember having to fight a helicopter in thethird level, which is odd because it's rad as shit. I did always hate that level though, so maybe I just blocked it out.
I heard you could get a second Falcon 2 in that level if you made it past all the guards at the start without being spotted. No idea how the hell that works, since you get shot up as soon as you open the first door :/

[Jay]

I'd kinda forgotten how tough the game can be in terms of managing your health.

[Clockw0rk]

Yeah, no health pickups makes it interesting :/ There's a shield in most levels though, which helps.

[Jay]

In some it's absolutely essential - if you take a few hits too early you might as well restart (though last night I did almost the entire third level with red health after fiddling around with a different control scheme at the start of the level and getting shot up - got killed by the last bodyguard, dammit!)

[Clockw0rk]

Is there a control scheme that includes a "hold a face button and move the left stick" option to change weapon? The default is horrible.

[fishonthecarpet]

I heard you could get a second Falcon 2 in that level if you made it past all the guards at the start without being spotted. No idea how the hell that works, since you get shot up as soon as you open the first door :/

Did it last night, it's easier than it sounds. You have to pop them all in the head.

First guard won't see you when you open the door. The second is the real trouble, open it to the right side so he won't see you, then back up till the end of the room, you can take aim then and he won't see you. The 3rd and 4th you can clip in the head by being cheap and peaking around a corner, same with 5th. 5th will drop another.

What I couldn't pull off was the extra falcon 2 in the 2nd level. If you make it all the way down to the bot reprogramming area without being seen, the weapons cache will open up. Can't even get past the bloody first guard!

Yeah, no health pickups makes it interesting :/ There's a shield in most levels though, which helps.

They remove most of them in Perfect Agent, it's brutal.

[Clockw0rk]

Did it last night, it's easier than it sounds. You have to pop them all in the head.

First guard won't see you when you open the door. The second is the real trouble, open it to the right side so he won't see you, then back up till the end of the room, you can take aim then and he won't see you. The 3rd and 4th you can clip in the head by being cheap and peaking around a corner, same with 5th. 5th will drop another.

What I couldn't pull off was the extra falcon 2 in the 2nd level. If you make it all the way down to the bot reprogramming area without being seen, the weapons cache will open up. Can't even get past the bloody first guard!



They remove most of them in Perfect Agent, it's brutal.
Thanks for that, I'll try again tonight. Then again, I'll probably just go for the speed run to get Hurricane Fists. There's a proxy mine in the second level behind the isotope, if you're willing to lose some help running into the room. Not sure if it can be used to make a specific objective easier or if it's just for fun.

[fishonthecarpet]

Thanks for that, I'll try again tonight. Then again, I'll probably just go for the speed run to get Hurricane Fists. There's a proxy mine in the second level behind the isotope, if you're willing to lose some help running into the room. Not sure if it can be used to make a specific objective easier or if it's just for fun.

I don't think it really has a use - my first thought was for when you have to 'hack' the terminal near the end of the level to open up a door - and a guard sneaks up behind you. But you can just use a dragon.

Carrington Villa, if you go to the helipad near where you first exit the cave at the beginning, there's a bunch of crates. Blow em up, one has a devastator!

[SOX]

I wish my 360 wasn't RROD'd and I wasn't a slack ****