PS2 Owners thread

[Kloppy]

For us luddittes resisting the move to the next generation, we eagerly await the few interesting releases left for our, what, 7 year old system? Nb: But still to 'young' to be in the retro section!

There's so few damn games coming out for the machine, and fewer still exclusives, surely we can lump them together into a single thread now?

Setting the tone, I would expect this thread to have;


Online petitions to get Ryu ga Gotoku 2 (Yakuza 2) translated into english.
Same as above, but for a butt-load of J-RPGs.
Interesting accessory or case modifications (or generally getting the console to do things it was initially unintended to do)
Accessory excess: I have a guitar, to mics, a camera, VGA adaptor, multitap an arcade stick, DVD remote, two G-cons and a headset with microphone, but I know that collection will be dwalfed here.
Aqua Teen Hunger Force Zombie Ninja Pro-Am
Comparisons between Wii and PS2 versions of the same game
People playing Manhunt 2. Not in Australia of course, that would be very naughty.


Begin!

[etnlIcarus]

How about we just do a write-up of all the games worth a damn. If there's nothing new coming out, we can cross-reference and fill in the gaps in our collections.

[Kloppy]

Well yeah, that's good too.

I was perhaps being a little over the top.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

I'd like to know if the ps2 version of psychonauts is any good? I'd also like to know what games are really brilliant that I might have missed out on that I could now pick up cheap, RPGs preferbly.

[Mike-Towns]

Nothing much coming to the PS2 is worth it to be honest...unless I don't know of a few killer apps still to come...if so, can someone post these.

Anyway, one of the (very) few reasons I don't use my PS2 slimline solely for DVD's:

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8586/5159e57x88laa280xs8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[consoul]

As far as PS2 accessories go, my personal fave is my set of 3D glasses.
They never really took off and most people don't even know they exist.

Some PS2 games were much better when played in full colour widescreen 3D. Square-Enix's Drakengard was brilliant in 3D. Both the on-ground and air battles had a great sense of depth. I even used them to explore Midgar in 3D in Dirge Of Cerberus, though that novelty still wasn't enough to make the game worth completing.

Much like the Virtual Boy, the glasses kill your eyes pretty quickly though. After more than an hour of PS2 3D, the real world looks grainy and weird. Not a good sign.

[Qwerty Man]

Will gta iv grace the ps2? Or do i have to fork out a grand to play it?

[etnlIcarus]

Will gta iv grace the ps2? Yeah, nah...

[Quatters]

Nothing much coming to the PS2 is worth it to be honest...unless I don't know of a few killer apps still to come...if so, can someone post these.

Anyway, one of the (very) few reasons I don't use my PS2 slimline solely for DVD's:

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8586/5159e57x88laa280xs8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


QFT!!

Disgaea is brilliant.

[Nic Xtreme]

I have that awesome game, but I haven't played it much lately...I'll be picking up Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness for PSP :D

[Eldarion Greenleaf]

Well, the only games on the PS2 that are really worth a damn is pretty much God Of War 1 & 2, and a few rpgs that escape my mind atm, GTA SA and the PoP series and FF12. But theyre already released. Hence, not much in the way of frap worthy titles on the way for the ol' PS2.

[/backslash]

If you guys have a modded PS2 and like RPGs, be sure to pickup Persona 3 :D Will probably be one of the very last great games on the console

[etnlIcarus]

the only games on the PS2 that are really worth a damn is pretty much God Of War Stop. Your opinion is now void.

[StorminNorman]

Valkyrie Profile: Silmeria is reason alone to keep the PS2 warmed up right now. Utterly brilliant game, somehow manages to improve on the first in almost every way I wanted it to. Hard as bleeding heck, though.

Valkyries are awesome, by the way.

[Dukotoja]

Will gta iv grace the ps2? Or do i have to fork out a grand to play it?

lofl, welcome to 2005

anyway since i got my ps2 for $50 6 months ago me and my housemates have played thru a number of games including; okami (the reason i picked it up in the first place) bully, FFX (i think) singstar 90's and some other random rpg that i wasent too interested in.

altho we also played GOW it was absolutely the most boring of them all

[Kloppy]

Don't like RPGs, so I guess I'm screwed then. :-/
Perhaps there'll be a few more Wii games getting ported to the ol' thing.
Fingers crossed.

Ryu Ga Gotoku 2 doesn't have English subs, does it? *puppy dog eyes*

IGN's little article on upcoming PS2 games (http://au.ps2.ign.com/articles/822/822056p1.html)... hmm, not bad, but not great. IMHO a much better death than the Xbox 1.

[StorminNorman]

No, but it is getting a North American release under the name "Yakuza 2" late this year/early next year.

No word on a PAL release, though.

[Quatters]

Ooh ooh!
Mods, add this poll!

-I own a PS2, I won't buy a PS3
-I own a PS2, I may buy a PS3
-I own a PS2, I will buy a PS3
-I own/owned a PS2 and own a PS3
-I have a PS3 but never owned a PS2.


I want to see how Sony's follow on policy is viewed.

[Creedy]

I just realised how many first party Sony titles I own on my PS2.

Dark Chronicle
Genji
God of War
God of War 2
Ico
Jak & Daxter
Jak 2
Jak 3
Jak X
Mark of Kri
Ratchet & Clank
Ratchet & Clank: Locked & Loaded
Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal
Ratchet: Gladiator
Rise of Kasai
Rogue Galaxy
Rule of Rose
Shadow of the Colossus
Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror
Wild Arms 5
Wipeout Fusion


As for JRPG's I own

Dark Chronicle
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories
Dragon Quest 8
Final Fantasy 10
Final Fantasy 12
Growlanser: Heritage of War
Kigdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts 2
La Pucelle Tactics
Makai Kingdom
Odin Sphere
Phantom Brave
Persona 3
Radiata Stories
Rogue of Galaxy
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shin Megami Tensei Lucifer's Call
Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner
Star Ocean: Till The End Of Time
Suikoden Tactics
Tales of the Abyss
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Wild Arms5
Ys: Ark of Napishtim

[Lazlow]

I still fire up the PS2 for regular sessions of Pride FC (although I may look to importing the US version soon as its 30% faster and full screen), King of Colosseum II, Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike, and Kaido: Touge no Densetsu.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

I just realised I only have 4 ps2 games that are exclusive to the console, 3 of them are Square games.

[Nic Xtreme]

Where are all the voters! I can't be the only I own a PS2, I will buy a PS3 person here...awwwwwww

[Quatters]

I just realised I only have 4 ps2 games that are exclusive to the console, 3 of them are Square games.

I think almost all my PS2 games are exclusives.

PES 5 & 6 aren't, Silent Hill 3 I'm not sure about, and the NFS games I foolishly bought are also cross platform.
The 20 or so other games are all exclusives.

[Creedy]

69 out of my 87 games are exclusive to PS2.

[etnlIcarus]

I voted have PS2, *may* buy PS3 since anything is possible.

[Kloppy]

Considering I started the thread, it's possibly little surprise that I have the sole vote at the top of the poll. Sure, anythings possible, but really, really unlikely.

I've got about half my games as PS2 exclusives - mainly because of the Dreamcast, but there's also 3 of the Capcom 5.... er, I mean Capcom 4 there too.

I am a bad Sega fanboy.

[Quatters]

I chose the same as Ick. While at the moment a PS3 purchase is a definate no, it may change in the future.

[Creedy]

It's interesting that 2 people have chosen not to buy a PS3. I mean why wouldn't you when they cost $300?

[Quatters]

What?

[/backslash]

What?
Exactly the same thing I was going to say

It's interesting that 2 people have chosen not to buy a PS3. I mean why wouldn't you when they cost $300?
What? Creedy, for god's sake, please explain your ramblings and don't dig a hole at the same time

[Creedy]

In the poll, two people have selected "I own a PS2, I won't buy a PS3".
I'm just saying why would someone choose not to ever buy a PS3. Surely they'd be tempted when the PS3 eventually drops down to $300 or so.

[Quatters]

What if they only ever do handheld gaming now?
What if they've fallen so in love with the Wii's motion based controls they will no longer use conventional controllers?
What if they've begun to dislike Sony due to certain practices and decided to boycott their products?
What if the PS3 never falls to $300?

[/backslash]

In the poll, two people have selected "I own a PS2, I won't buy a PS3".
I'm just saying why would someone choose not to ever buy a PS3. Surely they'd be tempted when the PS3 eventually drops down to $300 or so.

What did I just say about "don't dig yourself a hole at the same time"?

[StorminNorman]

What if the PS3 never gets any games that interest them enough to warrant buying it?

As for me, I've made my position clear: When the $600 120GB HDD/Dualshock 3 bundle hits in March/April next year, I'll be first in line for the damn thing.

(Assuming some other member of the household doesn't buy one before then.)

[Kloppy]

I know what he's talking about: they may cost a grand now, but in the future, (eventually) they'll be only charging $300 or so for them.

I put it this way, the gamecube got a price cut to $99 and I still didn't buy one... and it's not like the gamecube didn't have some great exclusives either, so I was tempted.

Stormo got the main reason though. I get into a console quite late usually when there's some real diversity in the library. By that I mean it has games that have no parallel. So for example, Heavenly Sword maybe awesome but it hasn't got game dynamics that I can't get on me ol' dusty PS2 with some God o War.

[Hippie]

I bought a PS2 rather late and I only have these games:

Tales of Legendia
Tales of the Abyss
Xenosaga 1
Xenosaga 2
Xenosaga 3

The list of JRPGs that Creedy posted was useful, it gave me some more
games to consider getting.
I guess I should get Rouge Galaxy if nothing else.

I really only got the PS2 because I enjoyed Tales of Symphonia so much on
the GC and I wanted to play more "Tales" games.

Not getting a PS3, too expensive and no games I am interested in yet.
More likely to get a 360 for Mass Effect.
I never really had any console brand loyalty, I just get what I need to play
the games I want.

[etnlIcarus]

Question.

Oni has rather mixed reviews but every now and then, I hear someone speak kindly of it. If I see it somewhere, should I pick it up?

[Kloppy]

It's not too bad of a game, but it looks really really dated.

I think it was developed for the PS1 - and it shows.

[Quatters]

I bought a PS2 rather late and I only have these games:

Tales of Legendia
Tales of the Abyss
Xenosaga 1
Xenosaga 2
Xenosaga 3

The list of JRPGs that Creedy posted was useful, it gave me some more
games to consider getting.
I guess I should get Rouge Galaxy if nothing else.

I really only got the PS2 because I enjoyed Tales of Symphonia so much on
the GC and I wanted to play more "Tales" games.

Not getting a PS3, too expensive and no games I am interested in yet.
More likely to get a 360 for Mass Effect.
I never really had any console brand loyalty, I just get what I need to play
the games I want.


Get both Disgaea games or I will hunt you down!

[Hippie]

Get both Disgaea games or I will hunt you down!

Err, yes good point.

[losturtle]

Question.

Oni has rather mixed reviews but every now and then, I hear someone speak kindly of it. If I see it somewhere, should I pick it up?

I played iton release and thought it was a piece of shit game with a good story, everyone else seems to like it though so it seems like I missed something. I'm tempted to find it as well but my memories are none too fond.

[fishonthecarpet]

Question.

Oni has rather mixed reviews but every now and then, I hear someone speak kindly of it. If I see it somewhere, should I pick it up?

I loved Oni on the PC years ago. It's very simplistic action game with a decent story where the focus is more on the fighting than anything else. I remember Hyper giving it a great review when it came out, and at the time I thought justifiably so. That was back in about 2001 though.

On Ps2 however it's a little awkward to control. When I get my Ps2 (I'm buying my friends) I'll probably try it out again, but I do remember it being rather difficult to control the guns in particular.

[/backslash]

I loved Oni on the PC years ago. It's very simplistic action game with a decent story where the focus is more on the fighting than anything else. I remember Hyper giving it a great review when it came out, and at the time I thought justifiably so. That was back in about 2001 though.

On Ps2 however it's a little awkward to control. When I get my Ps2 (I'm buying my friends) I'll probably try it out again, but I do remember it being rather difficult to control the guns in particular.
Amanda Winn Lee and Sherry Lynn did the voice acting for the 2 main characters I'm pretty sure which made the experience a lot more rewarding than reading a bunch of subtitles.

I really enjoyed it, only ever played the PC version though and whilst it had its problems (big areas, limited interaction, somewhat sloppy combat) it included anime styled characters and a decent story. Worth a PC purchase (only $10 at EB) but not the PS2 unless you like slow framerates and low-res graphics

[StorminNorman]

Out of curiousity (and the idea that my life could be made a bit easier by owning one), how much does a slimline PS2 go for these days?

[nintendo]

First time in this thread and I notice there is no option for us weirdos that dont own a PS2.... oh well

[etnlIcarus]

how much does a slimline PS2 go for these days?180-200 smackeroos. It's rare to find a sale that goes below the $180 mark (at least at stores that advertise).

[StorminNorman]

That's way too expensive. I was expecting $150 at the most. :?

[fishonthecarpet]

First time in this thread and I notice there is no option for us weirdos that dont own a PS2.... oh well

Well look at the title dude :P

[Hippie]

I owned a GC during the previous generation.

I would have bought a PS3 but Sony made some dubious choices.

o Limited PS2 backward compatibility on PAL systems,
then no backward compatibility at all.

o Persisting with region lockouts on PS2 mode

o No rumble on the controlers.

o high price

Since I didn't have a PS2 and there were PS2 games I wanted to try,
the removal of PS2 compatibility killed the idea of getting a PS3
for me. Probably too late to import a US 60GB PS3 now.

XBOX 360 seemed to have hardware reliability problems, didn't have HD-DVD
and seemed less likely to have the sort of games that interested me.
(With the exception of Mass Effect)

The Wii was interesting but the games catalog just doesn't impress,
Zelda Twilight Princess was the only title of interest to me and
I could get that for my Cube anyway.
I'm not hung up on having next gen performace, the Wii has plenty
of horsepower for running 480p graphics.

I decided to import a new slim US NTSC PS2 and buy all the PS2
games I had been missing out on.

So far I have picked up these:

* Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
* Rogue Galaxy
* Shadow Hearts
* Shadow Hearts: Covenant
* Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3
* Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne
* Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga
* Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga 2
* Star Ocean: Till The End Of Time
* Tales of Legendia
* Tales of the Abyss
* Xenosaga 1
* Xenosaga 2
* Xenosaga 3
* Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria

mainly new copies at quite reasonable prices thanks to the strengthening
Aussie dollar. (Except for Nocturne, which was pretty pricey for a
used copy, I hope it is worth it.)

Anything else I should be thinking of picking up?

I've been thinking about these:

Ace Combat 4: Shattered Skies
Ace Combat 5: The unsung war
Ace Combat 0: The Belkan confict
Aero Elite: Combat Academy
Battlestar Galactica
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XII
God of War 1
God of War 2
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Ico
Okami
Orphen: Scion of Sorcery
Radiata Stories
Shadow of the Colossus

I'm mainly into RPG games, Action Adventure, SciFi, Aircraft,
not so much into RTS, FPS, Sports or Driving.

I wonder where all the JRPG games are going to end up on in the current
generation? It's been a traditional strong area for the PS2, but
if the PS3 market share doesn't increase....
Maybe this time round the JRPGs will be coming to the Wii?

Oh well, with so many PS2 game to play through now, I can afford to wait
and see.

[etnlIcarus]

Skip GoW and is there really any point in buying all the Ace Combat games? Is there that much of a difference between them?

[ElPresidente]

Page wouldn't come up without a double post. :\

[ElPresidente]

* Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
* Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3
* Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne
* Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga
* Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga 2

You're going to have a ball with these. As you can pic from my avatar and sig pic I'm a bit of a Persona 3 fan.

Actually I just love Mega Ten games. You definitely don't need to worry about having paid a big for Nocturne, it is worth it. However I'd probably leave it until you've played some of the others. Nocturne is tough... real tough. :P



*edit - This may be a double post but the next page wouldn't load up after the first post*

[Hippie]

Skip GoW and is there really any point in buying all the Ace Combat games? Is there that much of a difference between them?

So no love for GoW then?

I'm not at all sure about the Ace Combat games.
Aero Elite: Combat Academy maybe, It's Aero Dancing 4 right?
I enjoyed the original Aero Dancing on the Dreamcast.

[ElPresidente]

God of War is awesome dagnabbit.

[etnlIcarus]

It's really, really repetitive hack & slashing. It's the perfect example of how games can devolve 20 years.

[ElPresidente]

I find nothing repetitive about it at all. It is visceral, fluid and fun.

Gow = <3

[losturtle]

I find nothing repetitive about it at all. It is visceral, fluid and fun.

Gow = <3

Here, here! (mostly...)

It is awesome but can drag a bit once you reach 2/3 of the way through or even halfway. The game is too long IMO but it's a terrific production with high quality all around. The idea that Kratos does all this simply because he's pissed off (let's face it) is also hilarious.

[etnlIcarus]

The idea that Kratos does all this simply because he's pissed off (let's face it) is also hilarious. Hilarious? I've never thought of a revenge story as hilarious, before. Okay, so Hollywood revenge stories are hilarious but that's just Hollywood.

[Quatters]

Also get Disgaea 2 and Dragon Quest 8.
Otherwise it's a brilliant list!

[losturtle]

Hilarious? I've never thought of a revenge story as hilarious, before. Okay, so Hollywood revenge stories are hilarious but that's just Hollywood.

I'm not sure how seriously you're supposed to take God of War, it's not Glengarry Glen Ross. Oh yes, it is hilarious. You hear Kratos yell "ARIES!!!!", then you go mash up a megaquajillion demon doggies. Either that or he yells "ZEUS!!!!" and you do pretty much the same thing. You know that when he yells out someone's name, it spells the death of a ridonkulous number of evil magic henchman. (and it'll happen a dozen times in the game) I find that inherently funny.

[etnlIcarus]

That sounds pretty standard for a melodrama to me. Couple it with the flowery and dramatic language used throughout and it doesn't really fit the profile of a parody.

[ElPresidente]

Kind of like when George Bush stands in the Oval Office, raises his arms to the sky and cries "SADDAM!!!!!!!"

We should get Bush tattooed. :P

[dazza826]

I'd like to know if the ps2 version of psychonauts is any good? I'd also like to know what games are really brilliant that I might have missed out on that I could now pick up cheap, RPGs preferbly.

compared to the xbox version its ok, slightly less better graphically and longer loading times

[etnlIcarus]

compared to the xbox version its ok, slightly less better graphically and longer loading times Psychonauts could be on the N64 and it would still be a must-buy.

Load screens can be a little frustrating when just walking around the hub, though.

[losturtle]

That sounds pretty standard for a melodrama to me. Couple it with the flowery and dramatic language used throughout and it doesn't really fit the profile of a parody.

Your standards and profiles are skewed. Just because that's what they want you take away from it doesn't mean you have to. I mean, could you watch "The Marine" and not find it unintentionally hilarious?

[etnlIcarus]

I couldn't watch, "The Marine", at all. The ads alone are enough to make me want to turn off the television and pick up a book.

[Koroshiya_Keefu]

What is up with that movie 'The Marine'? For several months (now several months ago) it was advertised in pretty much EVERY comic book, from Marvel to DC.

[Hippie]

Ceramic white PS2 anyone?

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/071106ae.html

[Quatters]

That's pretty old.

[Hippie]

I wonder if the power supply of the US versions of the new PS2s will still take 240V
like the existing thin PS2 bricks will?
Will the US price actually be lower than the current thin?
I have a friend who is thinking of importing a US PS2 so he can borrow some of my
NTSC games. Should he wait for the new ones or get one now?

[Quatters]

Also, I saw Kmart are currently seeling PS2s for $146.

I am considering picking up a spare one as mine is almost 5 years old now and I'm fearing for it's well being.

[Koroshiya_Keefu]

I'm still wondering if Sony will fix my PS2 Slim model, I've not used it since it died almost 2 years ago. My trusty fat PS2 is still alive and kicking though.

[Quatters]

I heard of the slim issues, but I only owned one in London for over a year.
My Fat PS2 is what's still getting used currently.

[Super Mario]

I'm gonna wait until MGS4, FFXIII and to a lesser extent Kingdom Hearts 3 come out before I buy a PS3. But Dragonquest X just might force me too bvuy a Wii too.

[Conor]

Maybe Dragonquest X will be released exclusively on the Playstation 3?

[Quatters]

WTF?
The next Dragonquest game is DQ9!
And the DQ series is continuing on the DS.

Sheesh.

[Nic Xtreme]

Dragon Quest X will probably come to PS3, Sony'll make sure of it. You watch!

I've been wrong before!

[Starscream]

I think the 9000x latest PStwo model to be released is Japan with the AC adapter built in. I'd rather opt for the 7700X series (pink if it has to be) since it's the most recent build. Don't think the 7900X series will be released here, but if it does I'll pick one up as a spare.

[Super Mario]

Drargon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors is being released only on wii. Due to the dominance of the wii in Japan it wouldn't surprise me at all if DQX was released exclusively for it.

[Quatters]

Well IX is already confirmed for DS.
IMO X will stay on a Ninty platform, not sure which though.

[UC1]

I really hope it doesn't go to the DS. 3D DS games just look ass, I'm sorry.

It'd be slightly less disappointing if it went to the Wii, but come on, how can you not hope it goes to 360 or PS3?

The whole point is to go on an epic adventure, and the battles are turn based. Waggle and or touch screen + last generation or the generation before that graphics, would SUCK.

Damn everyone who buys Nintendo consoles for being part of the problem >_>

[Quatters]

Not really.
DQ8 was full of atmosphere, Link to the Past had an epic adventure feel to it!

There's much more to atmosphere than just graphics!

[Bellamut]

Will gta iv grace the ps2? Or do i have to fork out a grand to play it?

I don't know any Xbox 360 that costs a grand...

[Starscream]

7900X models have been released in Australia!

[Quatters]

That's why everyone's had PS2s for so cheap, the new models are in and they're clearing old stock!
Maybe I should pick up my spare now!

[Starscream]

I'd pick up a spare 7900X PS2 when it's around the $100 mark or just before the 9000X series hit the shelves.

[Super Mario]

A spare console is a good idea especiallty while you can still get chips. I've got so many "imported" games which I wouldn't be able to play if my machine died.

[Gio]

Picked up a PS2 Slim yesterday along with Psychonauts and Killer 7. Psychonauts is of course, very funny. I'm not sure about Killer 7, I mean, it is fun when you know what it is you're meant to be doing. >_>

Looking to get Metal Gear Solid 2 & 3 soon, pretty much the main reason I got the PS2.

[etnlIcarus]

Just bought:
Ridge Racer V
Oni


Am utterly unimpressed with:
Ridge Racer V
Oni.

[Tukenstein]

Picked up a PS2 Slim yesterday along with Psychonauts and Killer 7. Psychonauts is of course, very funny. I'm not sure about Killer 7, I mean, it is fun when you know what it is you're meant to be doing. >_>

Looking to get Metal Gear Solid 2 & 3 soon, pretty much the main reason I got the PS2.

http://i7.tinypic.com/7y88606.jpg

:(

[Slippery]

If you pep me ill pep him again for you :D

[Quatters]

Just bought:
Ridge Racer V
Oni


Am utterly unimpressed with:
Ridge Racer V
Oni.


Buy some better games!

Shin Megami Tensei FTW!!

[Tukenstein]

Hey Quatters, did you get the soundtrack with SMT2?

[Slippery]

If you pep me ill pep him again for you :D

Done and done!

[Quatters]

I only have SMT: Nocturne/Lucifer's Call.

No soundtrack :(

[Tukenstein]

Whoops, I meant SMT: DDS2.

Anywho, If you're interested, there's a spare DDS2 OST hanging around at work. Did you want it?

[Quatters]

Hell yeah!

[Tukenstein]

Awesome. I'll be sure to grab it when I get GHIII tomorrow.

[etnlIcarus]

Just bought:
Ridge Racer V
Oni


Am utterly unimpressed with:
Ridge Racer V
Oni.

Actually, Ridge Racer isn't too bad. I think I've just been spoilt by Burnout 3.

[Creedy]

Hopefully this gets an English release as I never owned a Saturn at all.

http://www.gamekult.com/video/8691001/

[Nic Xtreme]

Hopefully this gets an English release as I never owned a Saturn at all.

http://www.gamekult.com/video/8691001/

Yeah, that looks so awesome and better come out here!

[Knuckle Children]

As well as importing Rock Band and Monster World Collection, I've accumulated a nice little back catalogue of PS2 games that I missed at the time:

Silent Hill 2: CE
Ico
God of War 2
Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike (on the way from Play-Asia)

Looking forward to hooking in once I finish getting through my recently acquired Gamecube back catalogue :cool:

[Yottabit]

Silent Hill 2: CE

Is the extras is worth the re-buying?

I'm thinking getting MGS3, is the online component still up?

[Lobster]

Is the extras is worth the re-buying?

I'm thinking getting MGS3, is the online component still up?

The making of DVD is excellent but if you've already got the game that's all you'd be buying it for.

As far as I'm aware MGS Online is no more.

[Creedy]

Is it just me or is this video of Wipeout 2097 completely orsm?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKaT46GEPXU

[Nic Xtreme]

Dengeki's reader base revealed! How niche are their magazine readers to have this as the results of a poll conducted over the past two weeks?

"What is the best game you played during 2007?"

1. Monster Hunter Freedom 2 (Sony PSP)
2. Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII (Sony PSP)
3. Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo Wii)
4. Dragon Quest IV (Nintendo DS)
5. Super Robot Taisen Original Generations (Sony PlayStation 2)
6. Persona 3 (Sony PlayStation2)
7. Etrian Odyssey (Nintendo DS)
8. Ar Tonelico 2 (Sony PlayStation 2)
9. Fate/stay night [Realta Nua] (Sony PlayStation2)
10. Lost Odyssey (Xbox360)

· "What is the best game you ever played?"

1. Final Fantasy VII (Sony PlayStation)
2. Final Fantasy X (Sony PlayStation 2)
3. Monster Hunter Freedom 2 (Sony PSP)
4. Xenogears (Sony PlayStation)
5. Tales Of The Abyss (Sony PlayStation 2)
6. Dragon Quest III (Super Famicom)
7. Dragon Quest VIII (Sony PlayStation 2)
8. Chrono Trigger (Super NES)
9. Suikoden II (Sony PlayStation)
10. Okami (Sony PlayStation 2)

http://www.forever-fantasy.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1026&mode=&order=0&thold=0

To have Lost Odyssey and Okami in the two polls' top tens is very strange, considering they both undeservedly sold like shit. Nerds!

[Quatters]

Is it good or bad that I own or have owned a majority of those games listed.
Though there are a few I intend to own such as FFVII Crisis Core and DQIV but don't due to lack of English releases.

[Nic Xtreme]

Definitely good! But it really is the nerdiest of hardcore gamers (i.e., people like me) that vote in these polls -- their readership really doesn't represent much of the gaming audience, which is what I kinda meant by posting that -- Okami and Lost Odyssey have both sold quite poorly over there, so to make it into the top ten really paints a picture of how small their readership base is!

I wished I owned some of those games...

[Natrak]

I'm not sure 'nerdiest' of hardcore gamers is what you're looking for to describe the people who voted in that poll.

[Nic Xtreme]

See, they are the nerdiest because all those RPG gamers sit at home, playing their RPGs in their little room of nerdhood.

On the other hand, the fighting game nerds are all social cool dudes, who are cool and chew toothpicks and smoke and gel their hair. Dudes.

/stereotypes

[etnlIcarus]

Is it good or bad that I own or have owned a majority of those games listed. It depends on whether you've invested the time to actually play all those RPGs.

[Quatters]

Well, I've spent at least a little time playing them...

[Adios]

Well thanks to a certain someone on these forums (Tuki), I have become a MGS fanatic and got myself a PS2 alongside MGS 2 & 3 (I have MGS on GC). I will be picking up a PS3 for MGS4 now. No doubt about it.

[Quatters]

My PS2 seems like it's going to die.

The disc drive is much louder than normal and games seem to take a little longer to load.
After 7 odd years it's finally giving up the ghost.
I really should have brought my Slimline from London back with me, but since I didn't, I guess I should buy a slimline.

What's the best price on them these days?
Or how much do you think Sony would charge to repair my old PS2 Fat?

[etnlIcarus]

My slimline isn't that old but I've noticed similar behaviour. It took far longer for my GCN to encounter an overall slow-down in performance.

[Nic Xtreme]

My GCN's laser is laming up. I think I need to clean it...

[Quatters]

PERSONA 3


Seriously, if you own a PS2 and don't own this you're a fool.
ElPres has raved for a very, very good reason.

Seriously, after playing this it makes RPGs like DQ8 and FFX seem so primitive, let alone looking at things like story or character.

I can't remember EVER having a JRPG where you really are hard pressed by choices. It's normally select "yes" or "no" but you end up with the same results anyway.

Seriously, buy it or I will probably be forced into committing acts of violence against you.

[shinra_elite]

PERSONA 3


Seriously, if you own a PS2 and don't own this you're a fool.
ElPres has raved for a very, very good reason.

Seriously, after playing this it makes RPGs like DQ8 and FFX seem so primitive, let alone looking at things like story or character.

I can't remember EVER having a JRPG where you really are hard pressed by choices. It's normally select "yes" or "no" but you end up with the same results anyway.

Seriously, buy it or I will probably be forced into committing acts of violence against you.

Sexy acts of violence?

[Quatters]

No, they will only be sexy if you buy Persona 3!

[shinra_elite]

No, they will only be sexy if you buy Persona 3!

Fiiiiine.




slave driver.

[Yottabit]

No, they will only be sexy if you buy Persona 3!

Is there grinding like most final fantasy games?

[Adios]

PERSONA 3


Seriously, if you own a PS2 and don't own this you're a fool.
ElPres has raved for a very, very good reason.

Seriously, after playing this it makes RPGs like DQ8 and FFX seem so primitive, let alone looking at things like story or character.

I can't remember EVER having a JRPG where you really are hard pressed by choices. It's normally select "yes" or "no" but you end up with the same results anyway.

Seriously, buy it or I will probably be forced into committing acts of violence against you.

Very nice! I saw the title at my secret gaming store in the city so I'll definitely go pick it up now. I just need to somehow get more money... Unemployment sigh... I haven't been unemployed for four years!

[Quatters]

Is there grinding like most final fantasy games?

-Combat isn't random
-Battles are far more strategic, so being a higher level isn't as neccessary.

Plus I've never had to grind in a FF game, they're all piss easy.
Plus as I've said, it's not just the combat that's superior, the entire system of gameplay actually forces you to make choices.

[Nic Xtreme]

-Combat isn't random
-Battles are far more strategic, so being a higher level isn't as neccessary.

Plus I've never had to grind in a FF game, they're all piss easy.
Plus as I've said, it's not just the combat that's superior, the entire system of gameplay actually forces you to make choices.

Never had to grind! Piss easy? Did you, sir, play the original FFI, FFII, or the DS FFIII? Or the "hard" FFIV? SO HARD!

Yes, I'm a pansy!

[Quatters]

I just sold FFI & II, and have played FFIV on ROM and GBA.
FFIII not yet.

But yeah, FF games are piss easy. I can't ever remember seeing a game over screen in one.
If you find FF games hard, stay away from SMT games, they will make you cry, Nocturne's regular enemies are harder than any boss in a FF game.

[Knuckle Children]

So has anyone played Odin Sphere? I'm an RPG-lite fan (Zelda is as RPG as I get) and the Hyper review and pics they showed really pricked my interest. The old school game design and artwork looked awesome. I'm guessing it will sell like shit here too, possibly making it quite collectable.

Thoughts?

[Quatters]

I have a feeling it'll be pretty hardcore. If you want RPG lite, go for Kingdom Hearts or FFX-2.

[Knuckle Children]

I have a feeling it'll be pretty hardcore. If you want RPG lite, go for Kingdom Hearts or FFX-2.

I don't want RPG lite per se (KH does not appeal to me AT ALL), I really just want to know more about OS. Just realised it's not out here yet though...

Hyper made it sound like a genre blend of Action RPG and side-scrolling beat-em-up, which sounds sweet.

[Quatters]

In which case, go for Valkyrie Profile: Silmeria.
That's a much more action based RPG and awesome too!

[Nic Xtreme]

I just sold FFI & II, and have played FFIV on ROM and GBA.
FFIII not yet.

But yeah, FF games are piss easy. I can't ever remember seeing a game over screen in one.
If you find FF games hard, stay away from SMT games, they will make you cry, Nocturne's regular enemies are harder than any boss in a FF game.

You've never played a hard FF game!

FFI and II on the NES (GBA ones are ultra-easy) were really hard, as is FFIII DS -- well, grinding hard -- and the FFIV I played on the SNES...rom...was harder than the GBA version. Though I swear the GBA version was supposed to be the hard one...

I wouldn't call them piss, but the SMT games are definitely more difficult...

[Lazlow]

But SMT:LC is broken in the sense that you can be wiped out without ever getting a turn.

And FFI & II are crap.

[shinra_elite]

And FFI & II are crap.

Why do you think that?

[Lazlow]

Because they have been surpassed countless times over by better games.

[shinra_elite]

Ok, I'm honestly not trying to flame or attack, but which games do you reckon? And are you comparing it to other games from that era, or onwards?

[etnlIcarus]

Call this a cop-out but I really think that with games as old and as lasting as FF1 &2, there's been enough evolution in the broader genre to warrant critiquing those games separately. You can enjoy FF 1& 2 just as much as DQ8, Persona 3, etc - just on a different level.

[Lazlow]

Well clearly I'm comparing to games of the same era - by surpass, implies that games have come out since that better it in every way.

And I would list them, but I CBF the list would be too long.

EDIT:

You can enjoy FF 1& 2 just as much as DQ8, Persona 3, etc - just on a different level.

That level being nostalgia.

[etnlIcarus]

No, not really. It ultimately brings us back to the subjectivity of what constitutes, "good". I enjoy a lot of NES games, not because of nostalgia, but because of a level of purity and focus in design. The, "game", is well defined and not really just an expansive multimedia experience.

[Nic Xtreme]

Odin Sphere is out today <3

Next time I go to the shops, I'll definitely have to put it on layby! I need to play Persona 3 first ;_;

[Starscream]

Odin Sphere is out today <3

Next time I go to the shops, I'll definitely have to put it on layby! I need to play Persona 3 first ;_;
Another two games, I have to buy. :(

[Nic Xtreme]

After getting hit with a double-PS2RPG-whammy, do we get another on April 1st? DVDCrave is still listing Tales of Abyss for release on that day! Being a Tuesday though, I somewhat doubt it :/

http://www.dvdcrave.com.au/products/product.jsp?pid=28681

[Starscream]

9000x series model is out.

Time to hunt down a 7900x model.

Anyone know where I can score the cheapest PS2 (slim)?

[Watchers]

Bought one today, with GoW 1 and 2, FFXII and Odin Sphere... along with a useless $10 stand that doesn't fit the new 9000 series :( Damn Sony for slightly changing the casing!

Does anyone know if component cables for the PS2 are worth it? It looks a bit blurry on my LCD TV, so I was wondering how much difference the component cables would make. It wasn't a huge amount for my Wii, but enough to warrant it.

[Lazlow]

I noticed the picture being a bit sharper, more defined. Not dramatically though.

[Creedy]

Back in the day I notice a lot of difference between composite and s-video. These days I notice the difference between composite and component. The use of component cables for PS2 on an LCD panel is certainly warranted.
I bought Monster cables for an extremely cheap price on Ebay about 2 years ago.

[Starscream]

Bought one today, with GoW 1 and 2, FFXII and Odin Sphere... along with a useless $10 stand that doesn't fit the new 9000 series :( Damn Sony for slightly changing the casing!

Does anyone know if component cables for the PS2 are worth it? It looks a bit blurry on my LCD TV, so I was wondering how much difference the component cables would make. It wasn't a huge amount for my Wii, but enough to warrant it.
Where did you buy your PS2 from?

You gotta own component cables. PS3 component cables can be used for the PS2 (the official Sony cables AFAIK).

All them new big screen TVs have component inputs, so why not.

EDIT: Can you check the voltage input for me on the 9000x series if it's multivoltage (ie 110-240V, 50-60Hz)

[Zzz]

Does anyone know if component cables for the PS2 are worth it? It looks a bit blurry on my LCD TV, so I was wondering how much difference the component cables would make. It wasn't a huge amount for my Wii, but enough to warrant it.

I noticed a significant difference on my CRT when changing to component, and while it's not like switching to HD or anything, for the price I think it is well worth it. Also, as Starscream mentioned you can also use the PS2 component cable for a PS3, and vice versa.

One thing I wold suggest is to see if you can get a 'PS2' labelled cable rather than a 'PS3' one, as it may be cheaper given that that branding is for an 'old' product.

[Starscream]

One thing I wold suggest is to see if you can get a 'PS2' labelled cable rather than a 'PS3' one, as it may be cheaper given that that branding is for an 'old' product.
Good luck finding one with a "PS2" branded component cable.
I'm sure the Tasmanian Tiger or Dodo will gladly assist your hunt for it.

[Zzz]

Good luck finding one with a "PS2" branded component cable.
I'm sure the Tasmanian Tiger or Dodo will gladly assist your hunt for it.

Yeah, I guess so.

Dibs on a tiger if he finds one though.

[Starscream]

Don't know about trying hunt down a Dodo or Tasmanian Tiger, but I'm going to get 7900x PS2 as a backup by the end of this week.

You know I'm not entirely convinced on the 9000x slim PS2 series.

[Ad-Rock]

PS2 slim. Backwards compatible like the fat ones?

[Starscream]

PS2s (slim or phat) play PS2 games....obviously @_@

[Zzz]

PS2 slim. Backwards compatible like the fat ones?

All signs point to yes (http://au.playstation.com/ps2/hw/productdetails.jhtml).

[Ad-Rock]

PS2s (slim or phat) play PS2 games....obviously @_@

obviously... ?

Thanks Zzz

[Char Aznable]

Just back to Persona 3 for a moment, I could look this up but y'know. Do I need to import? Or did it come out in PAL regions?

Is it as hard as Nocturne? >_>

It was immol8's birthday a week ago so I got him Disgaea and myself Disgaea 2. Awesome, ****ing awesome games. Prinnies are so much more awesome than they are in Phantom Brave. I love Etna. I love Adell.

I got Eternal Sonata a week before, a game I've been looking forward to for months, but have I touched it since I turned my PS2 on? Hell no!

EDIT: Re-reading my post, Disgaea is a very hard word to look at after you've seen it a few times. Like when you say a word a few times and it feels funny in your mouth. Like pickle. Pickle pickle pickle.

[Starscream]

Persona 3 got a PAL release.

[Quatters]

It did, and it's nowhere even as close as hard as Nocturne.
It's still harder than something like a Final Fantasy game, but it's got nothing on Nocturne.

[Lazlow]

Nocturne shit me to tears with its equal parts frustration and repetition.

In other news my PS2 is still seeing action as I just found Victorious Boxers: Ippo's Road to Glory pre-owned at Game.

[Starscream]

^ The RRP for that is $20 brand new.

Hope you didn't get ripped.

[Lazlow]

Close, $17.

But I don't care.

[Tukenstein]

Ok, so I desperately want to play Mojib Ribon and I need to know how I can do that without buying a new PS2. Any ideas?

[Quatters]

Buy a new PS2.

[Tukenstein]

Hmm, that's not really helpful, but I appreciate the suggestion. >_>

[Zzz]

Doesn't sound very believeable. How would a controller be region-locked?

To be fair, sometimes peripherals can be region specific. Memory cards are.

Also, the firmware updates are apparently based on region, so why not the controllers?

It's still no excuse, but the devil needs an advocate.

[consoul]

Memory cards are region locked? Not in my experience.
I have used my PS1, PS2 and GC memory cards with PAL, NTSC/US and NTSC/J saves all co-existing together.

[Starscream]

To be fair, sometimes peripherals can be region specific. Memory cards are.

Also, the firmware updates are apparently based on region, so why not the controllers?

It's still no excuse, but the devil needs an advocate.

Memory cards are region locked? Not in my experience.
I have used my PS1, PS2 and GC memory cards with PAL, NTSC/US and NTSC/J saves all co-existing together.

The only case I know where memory cards are region locked is for the JAP GC. If you put a PAL/US GC memory card with game saves on it, the Japanese GC console will ask you to reformat it. If you then put the JAP GC memory card on a US/PAL console, the console will ask you if you want the memory reformatted as well.

EDIT: OT: consoul do you know if the 9000x series PS2 are multi-voltage?

[Zzz]

Memory cards are region locked? Not in my experience.
I have used my PS1, PS2 and GC memory cards with PAL, NTSC/US and NTSC/J saves all co-existing together.

I played my share of Japanese games on my modded PS2 with PAL memory cards, but I always was under the impression that the cards had to come from the same region as the console, due to voltages or something along those lines.

Where was the card and the console from? I'd hazard a guess and say the same region. I'm happy to be proven wrong if that's the case.

It's all really irrelevant nowdays, but hey, it's interesting to me.

EDIT: Looking back, maybe it was the PSX rather than PS2?

[Starscream]

PS2 mem cards can be used on any console.

PS2 mem cards can store different game saves from different region PS2s.

GC mem cards can be used on any GC console, but as I've previously stated, the GC will not allow shared saves between the JAP region and any other region and vice versa.

[Zzz]

PS2 mem cards can be used on any console.

PS2 mem cards can store different game saves from different region PS2s.

GC mem cards can be used on any GC console, but as I've previously stated, the GC will not allow shared saves between the JAP region and any other region and vice versa.

Well there you go. PSAs for all.

I feel like I should be saying "and knowing is half the battle" given the name and all.

[Shorty]

PS2 mem cards can be used on any console.

PS2 mem cards can store different game saves from different region PS2s.

GC mem cards can be used on any GC console, but as I've previously stated, the GC will not allow shared saves between the JAP region and any other region and vice versa.

http://hardwarelogic.com/articles/blogs/Website_Reviews_and_You/MoreYouKnow.jpg

[Starscream]

Shorty, everyone starts out as a rookie. :p

[StorminNorman]

GC mem cards can be used on any GC console, but as I've previously stated, the GC will not allow shared saves between the JAP region and any other region and vice versa.

The reason for this, apparently, is due to character encodings. Japanese cards use a two-byte encoding (Nintendo obviously hadn't heard of Unicode when they made the Gamecube) while western cards use a one-byte encoding.

So it's more a technological limitation than any malicious attempt at region-locking.

I've heard that some games are fine regardless of the memory card type, too.

[consoul]

OT: consoul do you know if the 9000x series PS2 are multi-voltage?As far as I know, yes.
All the 9000x series PS2s I've ever seen have had multi-voltage PSUs.

[Starscream]

As far as I know, yes.
All the 9000x series PS2s I've ever seen have had multi-voltage PSUs.
I downloaded the Japanese manual for the 9000x series when it was released and it says 100V, 50Hz/60Hz which I found rather odd considering Japanese/Americans run on 110V/60 Hz, while Australia runs on 240V/50Hz.

I know for fact the 7000x series are multi-voltage, you can read the voltages on the power brick but still at a loss to verify the 9000x series.

Posts moved to the PS2 owners thread.

[Fusion]

9000x series model is out.

Time to hunt down a 7900x model.

Anyone know where I can score the cheapest PS2 (slim)?

I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to Ps2 hardware series' and I've read most of this thread, but I have a couple of questions :)

How often does sony release new series models? like what was the time frame between the release of the 9000x and the 7900x?

also how can you tell what series the console is when you buy it, is it written on the box?

and how many more updates/re-releases do you reckon we'll see before they stop making the console?

Thanks!
^_^

Edit: Laammeee I lost all my post counts from back in the day >_< haha

[Starscream]

How often does sony release new series models? like what was the time frame between the release of the 9000x and the 7900x?
It's at Sony's discretion. They release upgrades of current series of models, eg 70002, 75002, 77002, 79002.

also how can you tell what series the console is when you buy it, is it written on the box?
It's written on the box.

and how many more updates/re-releases do you reckon we'll see before they stop making the console?
I think the 9000x series PS2 could be the last series. There may be just one new series model upgrade left, but this might not happen unless Sony re-establishes proper backward compatibility for PS2 games on the PS3. That's my opinion.

[StorminNorman]

Usually a difference of 1 between model numbers indicates regional variations. For example, my PAL PS2 is an SCPH-50002 and my Asian PS2 is an SCPH-50006.

The PS2 has had fifteen revisions, but there are essentially five major versions:

SCPH-1xxxx - Original release PS2. Never released outside of Japan.
SCPH-3xxxx - First revision outside of Japan. Added the expansion bay and built-in DVD player.
SCPH-5xxxx - Most significant revision of the original design. Eliminated the Firewire port, integrated the IR receiver. Internal hardware changes allowed for a cooler, quieter and more reliable system.
SCPH-7xxxx - Original slimline release.
SCPH-9xxxx - New slimline release.

If you ever come across a PS2 where the model number starts with DTLH instead of SCPH then you have a debug model. Most of the time, they have the word "TEST" printed on the side where "PS2" is normally printed, however I've seen some DTLH models that just have PS2 printed there. There are DTLH models in at least the 30000, 50000 and 70000 (slimline) range.

There's also my personal favourite PS2 model, identifiable by the word "TOOL" printed on the side.

[Fusion]

thanks for the info!

What are the odds of us getting the red ps2 do you reckon? lol

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/080603ce.html

dam japanese market gets all the cool stuff =(

[Zan]

I'm a fighter fan, and it should be apparent to anyone that PS2 was the console of choice, asside from Smash Bros.

When the PS3 was announced I was more annoyed that the console controllers weren't backward compatible than the games. I and quite a few others like to use arcade sticks at the Couch Warriors events that we attend. That and I didn't give a crap about HD and Blue ray, so it seemed a waste of money.

That was when it was released, now my circumstances have changed and my money situation is a lot better. The choices for next gen fighters is pretty much just PS3 unless you like to play on Live (meh).

PS3 will eventually get VF5 redux for the newer version, and all of the other fighters coming up... Street Fighter 4, Soul Cal 4, Tekken 6... and I know that Capcom vs Tats and Blazblue will eventually come out for it as well, at least for import.

Which leads me to things that I really like about PS3 which has turned me around quite a lot. First and best is region free. I will be importing all my games from overseas for obvious reasons, and this allows me to bypass all kinds of dodgy chips and boot discs. Also the power supply takes a standard PC power cable which is a simple but nice touch. Added to that, the USB cables that come with the controllers make hot swapping controllers between consoles easy, which is something essential for the events that we run (BYO controller), and there are a couple of lagless adapters out there for PS2 so thankfully our expensive arcade sticks can be run after all. :D

Initially I was worried that the price point and the lack of success for the PS3 would result in us needing all types of consoles to satisfy people, but the PS3 is shaping up to suit nicely.

[sidochrome]

there are a couple of lagless adapters out there for PS2 so thankfully our expensive arcade sticks can be run after all. :D

While you're on the topic, which adapters would you suggest? I've got a couple of HRAPs I'd rather keep in service than cough up for shiny new HRAP3s.

[Zan]

You're gonna have to import them, because all the adapters out here are nonsense.

The standard for ages were Pelican adapters. They cost about $20US and were sweet, but I'm lucky to have grabbed a few while I was over in the states. They are quite rare now and can sell for a large amount on ebay.

The other is a Korean brand called REAL, which are fairly cheap, but not easily accessable from memory.

There is a really good thread on converters on shoryuken.com in the tech forum. I'd link it but it's blocked here at work lol.

[sidochrome]

Always a good place to check - cheers for the roundup, man.

[Knuckle Children]

My launch PS2 is starting to pack up. It's modded, and it boots up my import NTSC-U and NTSC-J games pretty reliably but really struggles with the PAL games.

Long story short, I'm thinking of buying a new slim PS2 as its long term PAL successor.

What I want to know is: Is there anything that about them that makes slims inferior? I guess I just need to confirm that I can use the component cable from my Phat in the slim, and that the slims can play PS1 games. I'm pretty sure the answer is yes to both, but I just want to make sure.

[Starscream]

What I want to know is: Is there anything that about them that makes slims inferior?

The only difference between the 70000 series and the 90000 series is the power brick is external for the 70000 series and internal for the 90000 series.


I guess I just need to confirm that I can use the component cable from my Phat in the slim, and that the slims can play PS1 games. I'm pretty sure the answer is yes to both, but I just want to make sure.

All signs point to Yes.