The iPhone Thread

[nintendo]

Is it worth it? Like are you finding any major benefits from having done it, aside from the getting files part?

Ive always thought about doing it but never had the nerve to actually do it. I guess I dont really have anything to complain about with the way it is, so that unless there are any real major benefits, I really couldnt be bothered.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Plenty of people in this thread have said it's worthwhile.


So with the new beta firmware introducing finger swipes to access the multitasking bar and a five finger pinch to return to the home screen there's rumours that the next iphone (or the one after it I guess) might go Home button free.

Also it looks like they're including an option in the settings to turn your iphone into a wireless hotspot. My-Wi better up their game!

[StorminNorman]

Plenty of Blakes in this thread have said it's worthwhile.

Fixed. :p

I used to jailbreak, but stopped when I realised I simply wasn't using any features it enabled.

[SOX]

Is it worth it? Like are you finding any major benefits from having done it, aside from the getting files part?

Ive always thought about doing it but never had the nerve to actually do it. I guess I dont really have anything to complain about with the way it is, so that unless there are any real major benefits, I really couldnt be bothered.

5 icon dock, springboard settings and the easier maintenance of my music made it worthwhile for me.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Good one Blake!

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

http://www.geekword.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/iPhone-4-multitouch-gestures.jpg

[HiredMan]

Oooh! :/

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Apparently we're not getting this in 4.3, it was just for devs to play around with.

8vj3UdA5ZlI

[Cubby]

I can see why they left it out.

[TAT]

By being so minimalistic about physical buttons, Apple have no choice but to resort to complicated and stupid-looking ways to do very basic actions on the iPhones.

Sidenote: criticise Nokia for being a bit behind on hardware development now, but back when mobile phones really boomed in Australia (early 2000s) every single dealer had Nokia handsets, and stock to spare. Cut to 2011, Apple are the market leader but you can't find their handset in a single mobile phone store. There's no choice but to go to their store and buy a handset outright - a move which is unviable for a large percentage of mobile phone users. (I don't even want one, ftr, I'm hanging for the dual-core handsets in feb/march but my fiance likes using the iPhone and stupidly, we can't just get one when renewing her Optus contract).

Reminds me very much of that webcomic that spoofed the PS3 and Wii sales models.

[Shorty]

While I'll agree that stocks had been scarce for an almost ludicrously long time following the launch, recent supply has been plentiful and I've almost never seen anyone not be able to just walk in and get an iPhone, at least where I work. You do have to buy directly from Apple if you want an iPhone that's not carrier-locked, but not being able to find a handset in "a single mobile phone store" is a bit farfetched.

[Araenel]

In TAT's world precious metals vital to electronics like mobile phones are abundant and not incredibly rare.

[TAT]

While I'll agree that stocks had been scarce for an almost ludicrously long time following the launch, recent supply has been plentiful and I've almost never seen anyone not be able to just walk in and get an iPhone, at least where I work. You do have to buy directly from Apple if you want an iPhone that's not carrier-locked, but not being able to find a handset in "a single mobile phone store" is a bit farfetched.
Yeah I don't know man, the three shopping centres closest to me seem to disagree.

[Azzaman]

This has probably been said already, but where would the cheapest place be to buy iphones outright? My wife is jumping on the bandwagon (and wouldn't mind a 3gs if it meant getting it cheaper).

We've looked at ebay and some prices seem to hover around the $300 - $400 mark, but I just can't bring myself to trust them....

[Rambo]

I sold my 3G phone on ebay for $450 when the iPhone 4 came out.

Just be careful of prices and make sure they've actually unlocked it.

[Cubby]

Yeah, I sold a 3G & a 3GS on ebay. Just make sure it has good photos to check damage etc.

[TAT]

I don't know why no-one told me this before (**** you all).

By linking my phone accounts to my Optus web account, I can just choose to upgrade the phones on my bill ONLINE.

5 ****ING MINUTES was all it took to get an iPhone4 ordered for Jackie.
EXPECTED DELIVERY: Tuesday

GOOD TO ****ING KNOW

[Super Sleuth]

**** you mate. I've never been in this thread before now.

[nintendo]

Apparently we're not getting this in 4.3, it was just for devs to play around with.

8vj3UdA5ZlI

I'll agree that it doesn't look too good in that video, but who hasn't seen those videos where they show of typing on the iPhone and they seem to be half ****ing retarded. I get the same feeling with this video.

That said, you should check out the video of those multiple fi ger gestures on the iPad, (think gizmodo had it), because that's where they really shine. I wouldn't be suprised to see them show up for the next iPad and not for the iPhone.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I don't know why no-one told me this before (**** you all).

By linking my phone accounts to my Optus web account, I can just choose to upgrade the phones on my bill ONLINE.

5 ****ING MINUTES was all it took to get an iPhone4 ordered for Jackie.
EXPECTED DELIVERY: Tuesday

GOOD TO ****ING KNOW

Which one of you told this ****?

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Window's Phone 7 Series Phone Theme Series 7 Theme Phone (http://www.funkyspacemonkey.com/os7-windows-phone-7-theme-ios-devices-video#more-19327) for the iPhone.

I don't know how much it's like the actually Phone 7 OS, but it's pretty meh.

[nonch]

Personality development, huh? This guy's in the right place.

[turb06]

has anyone managed to tether an iphone 4 and windows 7 either USB or bluetooth? it worked on vista but doesnt work on 7.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I've been doing via wi-fi the last few weekends. Assuming you're using My-Wi, remember that you need itunes installed for a USB connection.

[nintendo]

Only just found this out, so Ill share it incase someone else didnt know either, but Optus removed the charge for tethering ages ago apparently. They removed it because it customers were complaining that it was stupid to pay $20 a month for something that Vodafone and Telstra were offering for free.

Last Id heard I knew people were complaining but I didnt know theyd changed their mind on it.

btw, posting via tethered netbook lolol

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

How do you tether without being jailbroken (not counting the upcoming 4.3?)

[Pauly]

Only just found this out, so Ill share it incase someone else didnt know either, but Optus removed the charge for tethering ages ago apparently.
Yeah it's been like that for nearly a year at least? Can you tether to an iPad? THAT would be cool.



EDIT: to get to tethering -

Settings > General > Network > Internet Tethering

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Interesting!

They don't seem to have a wi-fi connection option, so I guess My-Wi still has that over them.

[nintendo]

Yeah not over wifi yet, but in 4.3, (which comes out this month iirc), allows tethering via wifi for up to 4 devices. So youll only really have to wait until then.

EDIT:
Im also loving this. Now I have a use for my macbook that has sat idle for a year and a half whilst I havent had net at my place. It was never a problem before because I prefer using my iPad to browse, but now that Ive given that to my dad in preparation for the iPad 2, I find I wanna use the macbook instead of my iphone.

Although I still use my iPhone a shit load when Im out and about.

[Pauly]

Wait, so in 4.3 you CAN use your iPhone's data with an iPad? That's awesome!

EDIT: Awesome! (http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/03/which-australian-carriers-will-support-ios-4-3-hotspots/)

[nintendo]

And 4.3 just dropped as well.

[Cubby]

How exactly does that home sharing crap work? I have the home sharing turned on, they are both on the same network, same iTunes account, yet there is nothing.

I can use the "remote" program to control my PC iTunes, so I know they can see each other.

[Knuckle Children]

Once home sharing is turned on, both on iTunes and your phone, go into your phone's iPod app and under the 'More' tab, shared accounts will appear at the bottom. Takes about a minute to appear after you've turned on your phone's home sharing feature.

[Cubby]

Ah that got it, thanks. I checked the more tab before and it wasn't there, so I didn't bother checking it again.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Some of you might find this (http://everyday-app.com/) fun. Gonna shave my head and start using it.

This (http://unnecessarycensorship.com/viral-marketing-giveaway) is currently free.





http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/iPhone-5-Rumor-RoundUp.jpg?t=1300982689

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/IMG_0399.png

[HD Boy]

does your social status multiply tenfold by getting an iphone? i suppose android is if you are indy.

[aubergine]

Don't take your iPhone with you (http://m.kotaku.com/5793948/your-iphone-is-secretly-tracking-everywhere-youve-been) when you go to murder prostitutes.

[Spazzallo]

White one released yesterday at my Optus store. Didn't even know we were getting it until my manager messaged me an hour before open to tell us to be ready for it.

It looks pretty tacky. Also makes the screen look pretty dim. Though as much as I hate Apple, I have to give them credit for being smart enough to purposefully delay the white version (yeah sure, it takes 9 months to get the bloody colour right) to convince the idiots I serve every day asking when the iPhone 5 is coming out (I DON'T ****ING KNOW!) to upgrade early. Especially when there are now better phones out (Incredible S, Arc).

[Shorty]

It looks pretty tacky. Also makes the screen look pretty dim. Though as much as I hate Apple, I have to give them credit for being smart enough to purposefully delay the white version (yeah sure, it takes 9 months to get the bloody colour right) to convince the idiots I serve every day asking when the iPhone 5 is coming out (I DON'T ****ING KNOW!) to upgrade early. Especially when there are now better phones out (Incredible S, Arc).

I know exactly what you mean.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

So do I!

[dimorphic]

I bought an iPad. Recommend good apps. Go!

[HiredMan]

Sword & Sworcery. Go go go.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

So I just realised that iOS 5 wifi sync still requires your device be plugged into a power cord.

Now I don't feel bad about buying Wi-Fi Sync from Cydia, since it actually does that (well it will if he ever finishes porting the Windows version).

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I grabbed the TomTom app ($75) and Homer Simpson's voice pack ($6.50).

Me and Grandma made it from Wollongong to Newcastle in style!

[dimorphic]

Does it rape the battery?

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Quite possibly, but it sits in a charger in my car, so I wouldn't know.

[dimorphic]

Touché salesman.

[nintendo]

Does it work well? Im just unsure about how well the iPhones GPS would stand up without being assisted.

I like stand alone units for pure GPS. The thing is I never actually need a pure GPS device. Everywhere I go Its quicker to use my iPhone because the A-GPS is quicker than a stand alone.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Sounds to me like you just answered your own question.

And yes, it worked great (on the iphone 4, anyway).

[nintendo]

Writing that down on my iPhone I kinda lost track of my point.

Was wondering about how it faired in places where there wasn't any reception? Would you say it'd be on par, worse, or better than a stand alone unit?

Also have you tried any of the other ones in the store?

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I can't really say I've tried it in any places without reception yet, and I've never owned a stand alone.

And no.

But it does sound like Homer fyi.

[adam_91vn]

Metroview is better and its only 19 bucks no homer though

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

No Homer = No Deal!

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

The Woolworths app is pretty good too, if you like shopping. Ability to scan the barcode of a product at home, add it to a shopping list and have it tell you what isle it is located in at your local store is double plus good.

[nintendo]

Yeah I went and downloaded that app. Then I proceeded to realize I don't really do any shopping and everything I eat is either of the 'take-a-way' variety, or ready made.

Just found a funny thing while browsing the New apps in the Featured section on the App store. Have a look for ABCs Spicks and Specks app. Comes up S***ks and Specks.

[SOX]

Downloaded a bass synth app called BassLine (http://itunes.apple.com/app/bassline/id298147000?mt=8) for $4.49 over the weekend. Really impressed by the ease of use and how well it works. Highly recommended if you need a tool like that.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Just found a funny thing while browsing the New apps in the Featured section on the App store. Have a look for ABCs Spicks and Specks app. Comes up S***ks and Specks.

I was wondering what the word was and now I've found it I still don't know!!

[nintendo]

Think they realized how stupid that was coz its not censored anymore

[nintendo]

So rumor has it the 5 will be announced Oct 4. Anyone else interested?

[SOX]

Nope.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I will be in a year!

[dimorphic]

So rumor has it the 5 will be announced Oct 4. Anyone else interested?

If Optus do a half price ETC thing again, then yes.

Assuming it's a decent upgrade from the iPhone 4.

[SOX]

Could care less

[tau]

You could? So you care?


(RANT/PSA: Pet peeve of mine - it's "Couldn't care less", like you already care so little that you CAN'T care any less. Thank you for your time.)

IN OTHER NEWS! Another World 20th Anniversary HD Remake is out. YAY!

[SOX]

http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww353/soxinthebox/quep1.gif

It was deliberate

[aubergine]

Only got 23.5 months left on my iPhone 4 contract!

Looking forward to iPhone 7.

[nintendo]

Well (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/09/27/apple_invites_press_to_talk_iphone_at_media_event_ on_oct_4.html) Oct 4th it is. Ill be waking up early on the 5th to be at my local Optus store when it opens to put my name down. **** them and their bs from last time.

Latest rumors are saying the main draw is going to be some crazy voice control shit. Tbh, as it stands, I don't really care about voice commands. Ill definitely be keeping an open mind about it because if they can fix all the usual annoyances and shit that goes with voice Ill give it a try.

[aubergine]

My current phone already had voice commands. For example, I ring someone and say "Bring Me Pizza" and it occurs.

Not sure what else phones are for...

[nintendo]

My sentiments exactly

It'll have to be some pretty whack shit for me to care about it

[nintendo]

Ok. Think Im just gonna stay up and watch a live blog and then go into my local Optus store when they open at 8:30 and put my name down.

Theres plenty enough time for sleep after that.

**** yeah. 20mins. Daylight savings means its on at 3 in qld.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

iPhone 4S.

http://i.imgur.com/59Vt6.gif

[nintendo]

So this voice stuff is actually looking pretty boss

[Shorty]

Agreed. Be interested to see how well that stuff holds up in Real World Conditions.

[nintendo]

Or like Gizmodo is pointing out, how well will it work with Aussie accents.

Guess we all just pretend to be American?

I wonder if it'll understand me if I wanna write the message, "omg wtf are you doing ffs"

[Shorty]

You'd probably have to spell it out.

"O. M. G. W. T. F. Are you doing. F. F. S."

[nintendo]

Yeah, kinda figured, be good if it'd abbreviate though lol

Also what about data. Im hoping the carriers allow free OTA updates, but then theres back-ups, synching, Siri, all using up data.

**** YEAH 64GB!!

October 14th. **** yeah.

[Shorty]

Siri seems to the one of the only software things that requires the 4S.

[nintendo]

Yeah. But 64GB alone is enough for me to upgrade. I had to keep cutting my music down because I started using the camera more. Real happy with the improvements to the camera,

[drzaius]

So what's the best way to get one of these on day 1?
I'm with Optus and well overdue for a renewal/upgrade on my contract.

[nintendo]

Id go in today and try and put your name down on one. I waited at the front of mine at 8:30 and Im 4th at my store. Fairly sure the ones above are staff though, because when I was in there they were trying to tell me that there was a debate about whether it'll be an iPhone 4S or an iPhone 5.

They also didn't have an option for a 64gb model. They do now.

I also told them the release date, and that if I seem a little crazed its because I hadn't slept yet.

[Space_Monkey]

I wouldn't mind upgrading from my currant iphone 4 and may do so provided the price point isn't too heinous.

Has anyone had experience with upgrading whilst still under a Vodaphone contract? I'm a year into a standard two year contract, $69 plan, paying $10 a month extra for a 32GB iphone 4.

I would be willing to pay $200 to upgrade, either in a lump sum or more likely over a monthly period. Am I dreaming?

[nintendo]

I've upgraded each time. You'll be looking at around $400 though. On a $69 contract they'll probably offer you either a 30 or a 40% discount so the best way to gauge what youl pay is to work out what you'd owe and minus the %.

Higher plan higher the discount. Although, seeing as its been over a year since the 4 came out, I'm not sure if they'll change that or not. Hoping because I'm ok a $79 cap I'll get 50%. I know they offered 50% last time to people on 79$ caps and above

EDIT: another brilliant example of typing on your iPhone. Think Ill leave it like that though,,

[dimorphic]

My two local Optus stores aren't taking names >_>

[Space_Monkey]

I've upgraded each time. You'll be looking at around $400 though. On a $69 contract they'll probably offer you either a 30 or a 40% discount so the best way to gauge what youl pay is to work out what you'd owe and minus the %.

Higher plan higher the discount. Although, seeing as its been over a year since the 4 came out, I'm not sure if they'll change that or not. Hoping because I'm ok a $79 cap I'll get 50%. I know they offered 50% last time to people on 79$ caps and above

EDIT: another brilliant example of typing on your iPhone. Think Ill leave it like that though,,

Thanks for the info dude.

A little calculator work and it looks like I'd be expecting a price of $579 at 30% or $496 at 40%.

That's way too much either way but a quick check of ebay reveals that I could sell my existing iphone 4 for $500 or more which would bring the upgrade price to a very acceptable $79 or less.

[Silverwolf]

It also sounds like the most pointless upgrade ever, too.

[nintendo]

The only thing I see it lacking is a diff body. The specs are exactly what you'd expect for an upgrade.

[Silverwolf]

What are the specs

[Italian Stallion]

Can't believe how underwhelming the new iPhone is. I don't even like them and I still expected them to put on a good show.. after 16 months I expected new features, not just updates. The only redeeming announcement was voice recognition, which looks exactly the same as Vlingo... and has been available forever, and bundled with the Galaxy S II for the past 6 months. So much for innovation. No wonder Apple are suing everyone lately - can't keep up, so they'll just have them banned.

Also funny how Siri is being excluded from phones other than the 4S. And they're turning off the servers that handle the voice recognition from the current Siri app on the iphone. Nope.. Apple don't dick their customers at all.

[Shorty]

I thought the reason they made Siri exclusive to the 4S was because it was processor-intensive.

[Italian Stallion]

Maybe it does. But I know the current Siri app on the iphone relayed it through remote servers, hence requiring an internet connection to use. Even if that's the case, there's no reason to pull the capability from current iphones other than to give more "incentive" to upgrade.

[Shorty]

Except for the angry support calls you'll get if you try to implement it on release hardware and everyone's battery life nosedives. If someone manages to hack it onto a 4 and get it running without chopping off 30 or so percent of their battery life, you may have a point. But CPU usage isn't free.

[Italian Stallion]

I understand not giving backwards compatibility it if it does require a dualcore CPU, but there's no proof either way yet as to whether it's done locally or on a remote server. What I'm saying is there's no reason the current Siri iphone app - which has been available for roughly a year - and works on current iphones, couldn't co-exist with the 4S' implementation of it, other than to make people upgrade for features that were otherwise already available.

[Shorty]

Well, that may be partly to eliminate confusion (and don't ever underestimate the ability of non-technical users to get confused by things) between the third-party version and the "native" version, particularly if they've extended and enhanced the 4S version. But even I have to admit that the upgrade incentive theory can't be at least part of it.

[drzaius]

My local Optus store (Claremont) had no idea about it. They wouldn't take preorders. I called Optus to see if they had any info and they referred me to the official apple website!

[drzaius]

Also, I can see this phone being very popular since a lot of people would have come on board with a 3GS on a 2 year contract and have held out upgrading their handset expecting an update in July.

[Silverwolf]

It will be totally p

[Silverwolf]

Found specs, completely underwhelming.

SGS2 is still more powerful, thinner, lighter, tougher, and runs a much more flexible OS.

[dimorphic]

And is a rip off of the iPhone.

[aubergine]

Well the iPhone is just a waffle iron with a telegraph attached!

[Shorty]

Yeah, but that thing was a piece of crepe.

[Rambo]

And is a rip off of the iPhone.

LEVEL UP!

+1 douchbaggery
+1 trolling

[Silverwolf]

+10 trolling*

[Lazlow]

Only thing the iPhone 4S has up its sleeve is the GPU, anandtech's benchmarks (http://www.anandtech.com/show/4216/apple-ipad-2-gpu-performance-explored-powervr-sgx543mp2-benchmarked/2) showed it shat on the Tegra 2, which the Samsung GS2 doesn't even have (http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/samsungs-galaxy-s-ii-preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked).

Personally though that's not a deciding factor, for me it's a phone first. Infinity Blade is nice and all but most successful mobile games don't require a lot of grunt.

[aubergine]

Infinity Blade looks amazing and bored me within moments.

An Elder Scrolls game should be on iPhone.

[Silverwolf]

An Elder Scrolls game should be on iPhone.

Where do these ideas even come from.

[dimorphic]

Where do these ideas even come from.

How is it a bad idea? If it can be properly realized it'd be amazing.

[Silverwolf]

Thats basically my point, how will you properly realise it on a device like the iPhone. It will either be too dumbed down to compensate for the touch interface or overly complicated and unwieldy because of what a proper elder scrolls game contains

Didn't say it was a bad idea though.

[nintendo]

So why do the Optus cap plans all have a price on video calling? The iPhone can't even do video calls.

Also, wtf is with the $79 cap changing so that MMS costs 0.50c now instead of being unlimited. Shit sux.

Gonna see how much it'll cost to break my contract, not upgrade, if Telstra comes out with some plans that are halfway decent. Its been longer than a year now so it might be cheap enough for me to do.

Does anyone remember what Telstra was offering people who upgrade their iPhones? Just curious because next year Id be looking at doing that.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

xBe0zjdURc4

[nintendo]

Going in to sign my contract this afternoon,

Picking it up 8:30 on Friday,

**** yeah,

Also hellah lolin at that vid^

[texta]

So when will ios5 be available?

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Was it today?

Todayish maybe.

[Ali G]

12th of October, but that's probably US time, so more likely early tomorrow for us.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

http://waxy.org/2011/10/apples_1987_knowledge_navigator_only_one_month_lat e/

One month off. Typical Apple.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5mNcnj2l6RE#t=334s

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Cards (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cards/id464957209?mt=8).

Cards is a really smart idea and I expect them to make MILLIONS OF DOLLARS from lazy people like myself. I also expect sending a card from this service will be seen as a douchy thing to do in about 2 years or so once Apple have destroyed the card business and everyone is using it.

Find My Friends (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/find-my-friends/id466122094?mt=8#).

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lQuA2jIDGTM/TacbWVkn59I/AAAAAAAAA_w/9bQx3zENGe4/s320/forever%2Balone%2Bface.png

[nintendo]

Anyone actually got the update yet? Been reading about all the problems but haven't been able to try it for myself,

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Waiting for a jailbreak.

[SOX]

Gf updated this morning and it factory reset her phone lol

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

lol stupid Gf!

http://1876.voxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/siri_weird_verge8.jpghttp://1876.voxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/siri_weird_verge19.jpghttp://1876.voxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/siri_weird_verge11.jpg

[nintendo]

All this iCloud stuff is pretty neato. I just hope that my 3GB data limit is going to be enough. I have no idea how much Im going to be using when you combine all the updating, backups, and all that extra stuff it can do.

I like the idea of having it all sync across my iPad, iPhone, and Air

Does anyone know if OTA updates from now on count towards your data limit? DO they come over the 3G connection or do you need wifi?

[adam_91vn]

Anyone actually got the update yet? Been reading about all the problems but haven't been able to try it for myself,

Did it last night without any issues. Theres 70 pages on whirlpool of people whining.

All this iCloud stuff is pretty neato. I just hope that my 3GB data limit is going to be enough. I have no idea how much Im going to be using when you combine all the updating, backups, and all that extra stuff it can do.

I like the idea of having it all sync across my iPad, iPhone, and Air

Does anyone know if OTA updates from now on count towards your data limit? DO they come over the 3G connection or do you need wifi?

It only works when it is plugged in and is on wifi afaik

[nintendo]

Wow. All this data usage is gonna be hard for Australia. If I have to back up 32gb, and 64gb, each time I want to backup my phone, then Ill be over my data limit in no time.

As it is with 5gb free I can only see myself keeping contacts, reminders and calendar backed up.

[Shorty]

Not if it's a differential backup, which wouldn't require syncing the entire contents each time.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Yeah, they don't back up all your data like that.

[nintendo]

That makes sense then. Because Ive got like 4 different backups on my laptop from each time I backup my phone, but as long as it just edits what it needs to backup then thats fine.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Assuming all your music is bought from itunes it will just recognise that you own it and let you download it from their severs if need be. Same with apps. All it would back up would be your user settings and docs etc (photos I guess).

I think you can upload ripped mp3 tracks if you pay for extra space? And that's assuming they don't match the file to a previous upload, and just use that one.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

http://i.imgur.com/5J8R9.jpg

[nintendo]

Well I guess the fact that Ive also got 12.6gb of photos doesn't make it any easier. Music thats bought doesn't count towards the overall limit,

I actually haven't ripped any music this year, I've bought all my music. too bad I'm gonna fill this 64gb bad boy up anyway.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Does iCloud store your photo's, or just transfer them to your other devices?

[nintendo]

It stores them,

[nintendo]

Picked up my 64gb this morning,

totes sweet. can't say much other than it kicks the shit outta the 4 in terms of speed, and siri is handy as balls for texting in the car

Lovin Photstream btw

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

https://twitter.com/#!/gruber/status/126330354981281792

Nice.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

http://i.imgur.com/szu2m.gif

[Space_Monkey]

http://i.imgur.com/szu2m.gif

And that is why you don’t buy a $700 smart phone without also purchasing a $30 case/$10 screen protector. :p

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

http://i.imgur.com/8m6f6.jpg

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

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[Knuckle Children]

I'm pretty impressed with the camera on the 4s. I took some outdoor photos and shot some videos today, and the results were noticeably better than those from my 12MP Lumix.

Extremely crisp output for a mobile phone camera.

[Lazlow]

And that is why you don’t buy a $700 smart phone without also purchasing a $30 case/$10 screen protector. :p

Or you could simply buy a better smart phone that isn't built like a fragile piece of shit. :cool:

[nintendo]

I'm pretty impressed with the camera on the 4s. I took some outdoor photos and shot some videos today, and the results were noticeably better than those from my 12MP Lumix.

Extremely crisp output for a mobile phone camera.

Also takes brilliant night shots

[Italian Stallion]

Or you could simply buy a better smart phone that isn't built like a fragile piece of shit. :cool:
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[Shorty]

Durability is not one of the iPhone's strengths.

[Italian Stallion]

Evidently not!

Also, seems like someone's managed to fully port Siri to the iphone 4 (http://9to5mac.com/2011/10/29/siri-hacked-to-fully-run-on-the-iphone-4-and-ipod-touch-iphone-4s-vs-iphone-4-siri-showdown-video-interview/). Apparently the only thing holding previous ports back were the server not recognising it as a 4S, and hence blocking access. Using files from the 4S they've bypassed that. I guess that means the recognition is done server side. And that it was only blocked from the 4 in order to get people to upgrade, after all. Bit of a dick move by Apple.

[Lazlow]

I love how they go "woooooooooah" everytime.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

The Galaxy might not break when you drop it, but why would you care since it's not an iphone?

I mean, if it doesn't break you can't even replace it with an iphone!

[nintendo]

Well that (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/11/09/adobe_confirms_it_will_no_longer_develop_flash_for _mobile_browsers.html) didn't take long.

Gone in a flash as they say....

[aubergine]

So what does that all mean to an IPhone 4 user?

Also, I have a 3G to sell. What's possible to do with them now? I think iOS 5 can't even be put on it. I'm not sure Apple really support it properly anymore.

[Space_Monkey]

So what does that all mean to an IPhone 4 user?

Also, I have a 3G to sell. What's possible to do with them now? I think iOS 5 can't even be put on it. I'm not sure Apple really support it properly anymore.

I'm fairly sure Apple updates no longer support the iphone 3G and 3GS. I've heard the best way to keep a 3G going is to downgrade it to it's original software. It'll be much smoother and faster when it's not trying to run newer updates that it can't handle.

[adam_91vn]

The updates still support 3GS

[aubergine]

How do you downgrade the software?

[adam_91vn]

Back you phone up. DL the old software. Fire up itunes. Plug your phone in. Hold shift and select the old software and restore from that.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

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[dimorphic]

My team meetings always get in the way of my teen anal damnit Siri!

[dimorphic]

Gta 3 now in the app store!

[FrozenSoul80]

My phone taught itself some new words while I was out drinking the other night. How do I make it forget them?

[aubergine]

You can delete the words by stuffing your fat **** right in its quivering **** and ****ing it hard until its sim card pops out the top of it.

Then just rinse the sim card under a tap and pop it back in, the filth should be gone.

[texta]

My phone taught itself some new words while I was out drinking the other night. How do I make it forget them?

Settings>General>Reset>Reset Keyboard Dictionary

It's all or nothing.

[Str8JaktJim]

Was mucking around with Siri yesterday and asked it "what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?" and Siri came back with "African or European?".

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/steam-mobile/id495369748

[dimorphic]

It's still in beta. Won't let me in.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Yes, but the only way to sign up for the beta is to download it and try to sign in!

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

RUMOUR: Apple getting ready to ditch the traditional iPhone, iPad, and iPod dock connector (http://www.imore.com/2012/02/23/apple-ready-ditch-traditional-dock-connector/).