Xbox 360 Problems Thread. RROD, E74, you name it.

[Stevorooni]

Serial number changes AFAIK


Mine had the same serial number when I got it back, but the console number was different, so I think they just swapped the guts out and transferred my serial number to it, but I had to reinstall all of my disc games because they said they were installed on a different console.

[freeradical]

My 06/2007 20gb Pro console has died again. This is the second E74 in less than 12 months. In total, this old box has been repaired for:
*RROD
*Disc Drive Failure
*RROD
*E74
*E74

If they wern't fixing these for nix every time, i would have dumped it by now. Its only a console used by other household members now as i have an Elite as my main console.
I was really suprised to see that my registered console was still covered for this repair. The online repair logging (for registered console) even provides you with a reciept now which has $0 in every column, with the description of repair as :

XBox 360 Console Service-E74 (Exchange) 1 $0.00

I haven't seen this before, so it must be new. Now waiting on shippping label.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Mother ****er, I assumed I was waiting on a label/coffin like in the States, now I see I'm supposed to package it up myself.

MOTHER****ERS.

If I'd realised that I could have sent it on Monday.

[Stevorooni]

Maybe you should have read the instructions you incompetent clod!

[Starscream]

Maybe you should have read the instructions you incompetent clod!
Yeah. Download and install Adobe Acrobat Reader first!

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Well I sent it off yesterday.

Now to play the waiting game over Live...



DAMN IT!

[jawsy]

E74. Gonna be forced to play the PS3.

[sausage]

Bugger the forum protocols I desperate and need answers now.

Have jus bought a 42" HDTV w/HDMI port.

Hooked up HDMI to 360 and "not supported" comes up.

Hooked up normal cable to HDTV no problem except only runs 50hz and looks like arse.

What do I do?

[castr8or]

never had issues with hdmi on the 360 (whn the 360 actually worked), have you plugged anything else into the hdmi slot (dvd player or whatever)? might be a fault with the firmware or somethign...

[aubergine]

Brand and model of tv please, model number is on back.

Beware, we will mock your cheap ass if you have purchased incorrectly.

[sausage]

this is what i got (http://www.dse.co.nz/dse.shop/4b89d7d702b54d4e273fc0a87f3b06f8/Product/View/GE6497)



mock at will

[sausage]

thinking of taking it back and getting this one - thoughts? (http://www.dse.co.nz/dse.shop/4b89d7d702b54d4e273fc0a87f3b06f8/Product/View/GE6446)

[Hyperblau]

The 360 might be outputting at a resolution or refresh rate the tv can't recognise. Also the TV might be poop.

[Sweating Bullets]

Might be the HDMI cable?
Try connecting that HDMI cable to ur DVD player and see if it works.

[sausage]

cable is ok; checked it on another tv/xbox setup.

tried everything possible to get the xbox to get into hdtv mode when it shooked up to the hdtv and another old crt tv that was my old one.

tried everything; changing around the hdmi ends, tv to 50hz, tv to 60hz, normal av cable hooked up to do this as hdmi is still "unsupported"


BAH! it's back in its box now the PIECE OF SHIT.

tomorrow going back and picking another one.

[HiredMan]

Konka? Prolly the TV mate.

Also sausage:

a) this doesn't require a thread of it's own;
b) you could've posted your problem in Tech Head sub or Xbox Gen in the 360 problems thread.

I'm going to lock this as it seems you've decided to get a decent TV tomorrow anyway.

EDIT: or another mod can merge it with this thread lol

[Starscream]

You pay for a cheap price for a cheap product......

[sausage]

thinking of taking it back and getting this one - thoughts? (http://www.dse.co.nz/dse.shop/4b89d7d702b54d4e273fc0a87f3b06f8/Product/View/GE6446)

How about this one people?

[fearofthesky]

Anything is better than those no name brands sausage. Panasonic, Sharp, Sony, Samsung and LG all do good TV's. Have a dig around and check feature lists closely. That is rather a mystifying issue though, it shouldn't be doing that, shonky no name brand or not.

[sausage]

I feel terribly let down.

[fearofthesky]

Oh, you would be after dropping a sum on the TV and not have it able to play your 360. Make sure you voice your displeasure to the Dick Smith crew, but nicely! They should sort you out in your exchange for selling you a shonky TV.

I love that word. Shonky!

[sausage]

Especially since I'm going to drop another five benjamins for a better tv.

[sausage]

cheek to be talking about tight asses

[sausage]

UPDATE:

Took the shitter back to Dick Smith and ended up getting this (http://www.dse.co.nz/dse.shop/4b8ade850191dc22273fc0a87f3b0713/Product/View/GE6461).

This thing better shit vestal virgins when I get it up and running.

[Clockw0rk]

Heh, the parents bought that same model a few weeks back. I was going to hook my Xbox up to it while I was visiting but never got around to it. Now I'll have to try next time I go see them...

[sausage]

Update: I bought it yesterday and quite frankly it looks like SEX. Fallout 3 looked so beautiful I just had to go on a murderous spree in honour of my new TV.

@Clockw0rk: Get your sexbox around there STAT.

Pic:


http://usera.ImageCave.com/sillysausage/Bravia setup.JPG

[Jay]

Is that an old USB keyboard in the bottom cupboard? :p

[sausage]

That cabinet of goodies, my friend, is going to put me through hospice care in 20 years time.

[Jay]

The old box cameras look awesome. I also think it's quite funny that you have a PSX in there with the other 'antiques'. :)

[Clockw0rk]

Why the hell do you not have MySky? It's the best thing ever.

[sausage]

I have other cabinets too containing more treasures of equal interest.

[Jay]

Now you're just being a cock tease. :p

[sausage]

Why the hell do you not have MySky? It's the best thing ever.


Yes, have to admit the old sky analogue input into the tv looks like arse; will be getting onto a replace receiver VERY shortly.

Like today.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

They've finally received my 360 at the service center.

Finally.

[freeradical]

As of today, mine is being shipped back. Yay! I swear, if they havent replaced this overrepaired unit with a shiny new one-they need their heads read. The cost of repairs and shipping on this puppy would now well and truly outweigh the original purchase price(or what MS recieved) for this console. Seriously, what is an out of warranty repair?? $130 odd. Multiply that by 5 = $650 (then add 5 lots of shipping too and from -$10 each way?-$100??). They could have replaced it with a shiny arcade, which probably costs MS $150!!
Mind you, this old Pro is my most silent console (after the 2nd RROD repair).

[Creedy]

Quality workmanship.

[HiredMan]

Quality workmanship.

Got your PS3 back from the shop yet Creeds? How much were the repairs mate?

[AranchineD]

He did but then it bricked again when he turned it on yesterday

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

It's being sent back!

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

It's back!

Had to be replaced so new serial, seems to have had the warranty extended until the end of the year, 1 month free live gold.

[TrinityJayOne]

Is it in Pog form?

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Yes.







http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/Temp/rrodpog.png

[freeradical]

It's back!

Had to be replaced so new serial, seems to have had the warranty extended until the end of the year, 1 month free live gold.

According to the Auspost tracking thingy, mine is still sitting in the Regents Park BC-so still sitting in NSW.
Hoping mine gets replaced-i've had the same serial number since new.

EDIT: oh goody!!! According to the Warranty status of mine, it has been extended for 3 months!!!!! So obviously no exchange for me then :(, just a repair.

How do i electronically 'flip the bird' to MS????

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I'm kinda worried that my old 360's serial number started with 0715****** and the new one starts with 0021******.

GLAD I WAITED FOR THOSE NEW MODELS!

[FF Freak]

Mine red ringed last monday (1st march). Checked the status today and apparently it's being shipped back. Looks like it's been replaced though as the old system was 0036 and the one that is now registered to me (according to the xbox website) starts 0201 for the serial number.

Sadly though my warranty doesn't seem to have been extended. On my old one it said 21/4/2010 but the new one registered to me says 6/5/2010.

[freeradical]

Well, its back and its been replaced with a 'refurb' (different serial number and a new faceplate). Thought i might get an upgrade to a console withe HDMI port and different power supply. But according to this site http://www.360drives.com/howto i may have an Opus (no HDMI), but the power supply info on that site does not match the info on my console. The power connector on this replacement console indicates Xenon/Zephyr.
The sticker on the back of the console now shows 'service date' (09/02/09) as opposed to 'Manufacture date'.
Havent had a chance to fire it up yet to check what type of DVD drive this unit has, but one thing i notice is the refurb has 'Delta' fans installed which are allegedly the noisier ones (grrrr). The old pro that was sent in was near silent (although i never checked to see what was installed) after its second RROD repair-if this refurb is noisier, i'll be ringing MS and reporting a faulty unit!

[Ryan Hayward]

I have a problem with my original xbox. Bloody dvd player keeps opening and closing the tray. I can get around it by holding it in with my finger for 2 seconds and then it accepts the disc just fine. I bought a cheapo pre-owned for 49 bucks from EBs just in case its on the way....
New old xbox is just fine, runs quieter too.

[Lazlow]

XBOX just skitzed out, glitched screen and repeating sound D:

NOT AGAIN!

This is what I get for being too lazy to install Batman, and playing it off disc for the last 3 days.

[Second]

HEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHehehehehheheHEHEHEHEHE

[sausage]

jesus laz who doesn't install games to the drive; lazy prick.

[Clockw0rk]

Oh hey Sausage, I tried the 360 with an HDMI cable in my parents' Konka 42" - didn't work. Works fine with analogue cable but it could be something to do with HDCP?

They didn't mind too much as they don't use it for gaming but at least you know it's a problem with the model of TV rather than the one that you tried being broken.

[sausage]

Good to hear I wasn't just a dumbass; mate those Konka's are all shit I took mine back and plumbed for a 40 inch Bravia; hooked it up *boom* everything installed itself did everything except pleasure me.

[TrinityJayOne]

Oh hey Sausage, I tried the 360 with an HDMI cable in my parents' Konka 42" - didn't work. Works fine with analogue cable but it could be something to do with HDCP?

They didn't mind too much as they don't use it for gaming but at least you know it's a problem with the model of TV rather than the one that you tried being broken.
HDCP shouldn't be an issue, except perhaps with the HD-DVD player, as games don't use it. Even if it was causing the issues, such a problem should bring up an error on the TV.

[Vicious]

Three years and three months . . .

My 360 has started freezing randomly at the main menu.


Even worse is I need to replace it since Deathsmiles will be hitting the US in July. GAH!

[Lazlow]

How the hell do I get a "Disc is Unreadable" message when playing an installed game?!?

Just as I was about to put the final nail in the Bengals' coffin.

[freeradical]

Yeah, ive had that before on my MW2 install. The disc had developed fine 'cracks' around the centre hole (i think it may have been stood on at some point). These had slowly gotten bigger until they started to enter the 'data' part of the disc. So when the 360 did its mandatory check that the disc was in the drive-no go.
Of course, yours could just be a scratch or dirt.
OR, do you mean an installed arcade title?.

[Xanafalgue]

How the hell do I get a "Disc is Unreadable" message when playing an installed game?!?

Just as I was about to put the final nail in the Bengals' coffin.

Which game? I've only had this happen to my a few times while playing (an installed) Bayonetta.

[Lazlow]

Madden 10

Its pristine. Its only been between system and case twice.

With the previous cock up (http://www.hyper.com.au/forums/showpost.php?p=1193693&postcount=298) and this, I have a feeling something is on its way out.

[Sweating Bullets]

Tried cleaning the lens reader Laz?

[jawsy]

Madden 10

Its pristine. Its only been between system and case twice.

With the previous cock up (http://www.hyper.com.au/forums/showpost.php?p=1193693&postcount=298) and this, I have a feeling something is on its way out.

Mine was doing that. Then I got a pretty red ring.

[Lazlow]

Yeah I moved my XBOX onto the 47" LCD in the lounge last night (was on a 19" 4:3 LCD monitor in my room) and for the last two nights it keeps freezing (Madden 10, BFBC2, Forza 3).

Only two solutions left on the support page are to clear the cache, and reseat the hard drive.

If its dying, its taking a f***ing long time. **** I hate the fragile nature of these modern day consoles. My PS2 still works after some 9-10 years.

[Lazlow]

Well I'm thoroughly stumped.

I moved my XBOX back to the 19" 4:3 LCD monitor, but it still kept freezing. I've deleted the game install and ran it from disc, cleared the cache, reseated the hard drive, played it without the hard drive, and unplugged it from the modem; but it still kept freezing.

I tried persevering through some BFBC2 tonight with HiredMan and Jickle, but the freezing got to me in the end.

BUT... I've been playing UFC Undisputed for over an hour now, without a hitch O_o. The hard drive is still disconnected, so I'm not using a profile and therefore its not had any updates due to clearing the cache.

So don't know wtf is going on.

I've played the Jacksonville Jaguars 4 times now in Madden 10 because it freezes when trying to exit the game at the end and go back to my franchise screen, and therefore hasn't saved. It freezes relentlessly in BFBC2... but for some reason right now its stable as a rock.

[Lazlow]

So it keeps freezing, but won't red ring and die. So I'm contemplating two courses of action;

- ring MS and see if I can get it fixed. Now I bought it July 2007, but I'm pretty sure the 3 years only covers the RRoD. Can anyone C/D?

- buy an arcade (already got a 120gb HDD), and get the old one fixed at some point in the future (if its going to cost money) and sell it or trade it in.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I believe the trick is to wrap it in towels and turn it on until it rrod.

[Watchers]

So it keeps freezing, but won't red ring and die. So I'm contemplating two courses of action;

- ring MS and see if I can get it fixed. Now I bought it July 2007, but I'm pretty sure the 3 years only covers the RRoD. Can anyone C/D?

- buy an arcade (already got a 120gb HDD), and get the old one fixed at some point in the future (if its going to cost money) and sell it or trade it in.

Just say you got the RRoD and send it back. What you describe sounds exactly like what I had happen prior to mine failing.

[Lazlow]

Might play some GTA4 off disc, see if that'll kill it off. >_>

[Xanafalgue]

Might play some GTA4 off disc, see if that'll kill it off. >_>

Heh, GTAIV killed my first 360 :p

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Killed mine from the hard drive.

[REQUIEM]

The constent freezing sounds exactly like my first 2 xboxs just before they died so it seems like it wont be too long. Madden always freezes regardless though.

[Natrak]

RROD. :( I can still get it running, but invariably it freezes and RRODs

[Surgeon.]

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4203/dscf2784.jpg

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3336/dscf2791v.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2622/dscf2789ph.jpg

Anyone had this shit before? I assume it's the end of my xbox . . .

This was my second 360, and it was only ever used sparingly for Forza 3. I play one day of Red Dead and I get this.

Ideas?

[Mr.Mew]

Woah. The RDR image looks trippy; would be cool if there was a modifier to add that effect to all surfaces.

I had a similar problem with my Wii, although not quite as extreme. I'd say it's a hardware fault. That or because the image is effected the AV or HDMI cable was bumped a fraction of a nanometre?

[freeradical]

Looks like the beginning of E74 (particularly the RDR image). Something i have experienced twice now. Fortunately this is now covered by 3 year warranty. Bloody annoying though.

[TrinityJayOne]

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3336/dscf2791v.jpg

Ideas?
That is EXACTLY what my 360 did while playing Forza 2 before it carked it. Sorry for your loss. :(

[TrinityJayOne]

Got my own problem now, dammit!

Previously on Blur (:P), I paused mid-race to leave the room and bumped the underside of my desk quite hard with my knee. My Xbox is on the desk and the jolt must have caused the disc to skip, as I got a "disc read error" message (first time ever) and was kicked to the dashboard. No biggie, I restarted and thought nothing of it until I retried the same race and got another disc read error. :confused: I restarted and tried two different tracks, which worked fine, then the original course gave the error again. So I checked the disc and there's a very noticable circular scratch around maybe 2/3 of the disc. :(

http://members.iinet.net.au/~trinityjayone/blurdisc.jpg

I've only been able to do that particular race once without it stuffing up, out of about 5 attempts. I'm 99% sure I installed the game too, so that won't help. I'm currently driving around in GTA4 to make sure it was just the bump and that my Xbox isn't buggered, as the only other game I have that streams constantly is RDR and I'm not going to risk that!

Does anyone know if DVDs are ok to machine polish? Starting to wish I had bought that damned game guarantee. :P

[Second]

I feel for you, bro. I did the same thing ages ago with DMC4. :s

[Lazlow]

The day I do that is the day I'm glad I'm a sucker for the disc warranty.

IT'S ONLY $5! >_>

[Second]

I always do it now. I've not really had to use 'em much, but I'd rather be safe than sorry. <_<

[TrinityJayOne]

I never get it because it's just not something I've ever needed to use, as I always keep my games in a case. And I do say a. I had to play a bit of musical cases to find which one I had left GTA4 in. >_>

Anyways, Rambo pepped me with a flawless idea of how to remedy the situation and I shall be doing it this weekend.

[Second]

Semen doesn't work. Trust me, I've tried it.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Anyways, Rambo pepped me with a flawless idea of how to remedy the situation and I shall be doing it this weekend.

Sounds a bit http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/Emoticons/ShadyEyes.gif!

[TrinityJayOne]

Indeed it is. :D

[AranchineD]

I bet it involves buying another copy of Blur from EB and using the 7 day return policy!

[Jay]

Semen doesn't work. Trust me, I've tried it.

My image of you putting your dick through the disc hole will now never leave me.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Try this palette cleanser:











http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/My%20Photoshops/rudaocelotsw4.jpg

It's Second with an ocelot resting on his erect penis.

[Xanafalgue]

eurgh :/

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Second we found a gay guy turned off by you!

You owe me a beer!

[McChimp]

Does anyone know if DVDs are ok to machine polish? Starting to wish I had bought that damned game guarantee. :P

Yeah, just spend the cash and take it into a store that'll buff it for you. I get a LOT of people coming in with discs with grooves like that in them from bumping/ moving/ jumping around their 360's. The disc buffer we have at work would get that out in, what, 3 heavy cycles and have it back to new (or as good as). Takes about 15mins it total. And yeah, game warranties seem like a waste of cash, but when these things happen (which they do, even to those of us that take 'really good care' of our games), it can save you a nice penny.

[HiredMan]

Surg. Your GPU is on the way out. Should RRoD soon.

[Lazlow]

My image of you putting your dick through the disc hole will now never leave me.

I still remember the images of him with his dick through a children's book >_<

[Surgeon.]

Surg. Your GPU is on the way out. Should RRoD soon.

That's what I'm hoping for.

Although, I played it for a couple hours Sunday night and got nothing . . .

I figure if I hire Alan Wake and play it all weekend off the disk, I should be able to kill it off for good. :)

[HiredMan]

Yeah that should do it. Same thing happened to my elite before it RRoD, fingers crossed that it wont take too long.

[Xanafalgue]

Second we found a gay guy turned off by you!

You owe me a beer!



I also think the size of the Ocelot is a little generous. http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k58/nitr2/msicons3/the-simpsons-homer-thinking-100x100.png Should have been an emasculating kitten

http://committeeofpublicsafety.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/cute-sad-kitten02.jpg

[Second]

I still remember the images of him with his dick through a children's book >_<

It's not a children's book.

[TrinityJayOne]

If they can indeed be machine polished then I'll just go for that, as I don't want EB to only trade the disc for a good one ad leave me stuck with a superfluous copy. :/

[Spazzola]

It's not a children's book.

It was a child? Oh Second...

[TrinityJayOne]

So it turns out that I didn't install the game, which probably would have made it perfectly playable. Of course now that the disc is ****ed, the install gets to 16% and stops. :P Ah well, it's only that one track that acts up so far.

[/backslash]

All this talk about failing 360s has made it very clear to me its not worth purchasing one now. I can't believe the spread of problems & how often it occurs despite how careful you are with it. I dunno how you guys stay loyal after so much hassle :p

[AranchineD]

Well my 360 has failed less than Creedy's PS3.

So there.

[Spazzola]

All this talk about failing 360s has made it very clear to me its not worth purchasing one now. I can't believe the spread of problems & how often it occurs despite how careful you are with it. I dunno how you guys stay loyal after so much hassle :p

I've had mine upwards of two years and it's still going strong. But I've had a mate who's had one of his shit itself due to failed modding (he purchased second hand) and two from RROD. Guess it just depends on luck and batch.

[/backslash]

Are the more recent batches considered more reliable or has the Elite been mostly unchanged since debut?

[adam_91vn]

All this talk about failing 360s has made it very clear to me its not worth purchasing one now.

Who gives a shit. They have a warranty.

My launch console lasted 3 years, they replaced it with a refurb and thats been fine for a while now.

[/backslash]

Who gives a shit. They have a warranty.
Even so, if you're paying for the online service & have to wait about 3-4 weeks everytime to get it serviced (which could happen quite often & during the time of big releases) its not exactly a promising experience

[AranchineD]

Dude, it's more 2 weeks. Max. I got mine back within a week when it broke down. And Microsoft gives you a month free of Live for it.

[Natrak]

With the newer models it's less likely to happen, and if it does happen you'll be unlucky to have it happen for at least a couple of years.

If it's a system you've been looking at getting for a while, with games you're interested in playing, the RROD just isn't really a dealbreaker. It's an inconveniance.

[Lazlow]

As much as my unit (lol) is pissing me off, with its constant freezes in Bad Company 2, I still don't regret my purchase.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I just hope my current one lasts until I can afford 360Slim.

[/backslash]

I just hope my current one lasts until I can afford 360Slim.
Are they making one or are you just making it up? :p

As much as my unit (lol) is pissing me off, with its constant freezes in Bad Company 2, I still don't regret my purchase.
Haha, I like that kind of determination :D

Dude, it's more 2 weeks. Max. I got mine back within a week when it broke down. And Microsoft gives you a month free of Live for it.
I heard it was more like 3-4 (depends where you live I guess?). Probably varies depending on how busy they are too. Also Microsoft giving you a month of free Live is quite sweet, didn't know about that

With the newer models it's less likely to happen

If it's a system you've been looking at getting for a while, with games you're interested in playing, the RROD just isn't really a dealbreaker. It's an inconveniance.
Newer components or just because they're new? I like to make sure I've got all my facts straight before (if I should ever purchase one) something happens & I'm unaware of what I can do

[AranchineD]

Newer components or just because they're new?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_hardware

Model revisions. Every new 360 now is based on the Jasper model, which is supposed to be the most reliable.

[/backslash]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_hardware

Model revisions. Every new 360 now is based on the Jasper model, which is supposed to be the most reliable.
That's good, nice to know they're making them more energy efficient too - especially the GPU which I'd imagine would stop overheating causing units to dish out RROD

[TrinityJayOne]

My copy of GTA that I bought pre owned had that line on it, it's actually residue from oil/glue in the 360 drive mostly from older consoles. I took it to block buster for a $2 buff, the chick did it twice for me and it was flawless.
Nah this is definitely a scratch, you can feel the indentation with a fingernail etc. I'm still looking into it but there's no major rush, as the rest of the game plays fine apart from that one track so far, and it's a fairly average track anyway. :P

[adam_91vn]

Even so, if you're paying for the online service & have to wait about 3-4 weeks everytime to get it serviced (which could happen quite often & during the time of big releases) its not exactly a promising experience

Mine was gone 8 business days and I am in Perth as you probably know.

Also gave me 3 months of live which I sold for 20 bucks :D

[HiredMan]

I heard it was more like 3-4 (depends where you live I guess?). Probably varies depending on how busy they are too. Also Microsoft giving you a month of free Live is quite sweet, didn't know about that


My launch Elite has RRoD'd once, I had it back within 5 working days. I live in Canberra.

[Lazlow]

Last night my console was getting worse. It was freezing 5 minutes into any game - Forza, BFBC2, Red Dead, even front on the dashboard. It was also reading game discs as DVD movies.

So I assumed the disc drive is on the way out, as I can still play the SBKX and Backbreaker demos fine.

However I was able to play a good 30min-1hr session of SSFIV against HiredMan fine.

Today I've fired up Forza 3 for some La Sarthe action, and I've been playing for a good hour, until now. Was doing the R1 Fujimi Kaido series, and on the second leg the tracks disappeared. Tried to restart the race, but now its just frozen.

So is it GPU or disc drive that's failing me?

I could probably afford an Arcade unit today if I can find one for $200 - $250. I'm assuming most stores should be stocking the more recent models.

What's involved with transferring the gamertag/account?

[Shorty]

What's involved with transferring the gamertag/account?

You need to use the license transfer tool (http://www.xbox.com/en-AU/support/xbox360hardware/programs/license_transfer/default.htm) to migrate all your account to the new Xbox. Then I think you need to redownload all the DLC you want to use (and by "download" I mean "the console transfers the license over in about two or three seconds", not "download the entire thing again").

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

But you will be clicking on your GH/RB song downloads one by one.

[Lazlow]

Good thing I play a real guitar :cool:

[Surgeon.]

Just an update on my 360 . . .

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/8792/e74l.jpg http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6592/e742.jpg

Funny thing is, I played RDR on it for like 4 hours with no major problems. Picked up the megadrive collection today and played Golden Axe for 20 minutes and instant E74! :p

Golden Axe, more graphically intensive than Red Dead . . . Confirmed

I remember when my first 360 died, I had to supply the box and send it away. When I put in the service request for this one, it mentioned something about sending out a box to me. Did they change this? Guess I'll find out when they send me my service email.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I had to supply my own box just a few months back.

I've made sure to keep the box/xbox foam holder thingys that they sent it back with. Have a feeling I'll probably need them before this generation is out.

[Stevorooni]

I've made sure to keep the box/xbox foam holder thingys that they sent it back with. Have a feeling I'll probably need them before this generation is out.

I still have mine too, although I think my 3 year warranty might be done soon so if it dies again after that I'll probably just pick up an arcade.

[fishonthecarpet]

Just got mine back fresh from it's first RROD repair. The ****ing thing is a whole heap noisier. Anyone else get this upon a return? Eugh.

[REQUIEM]

Just got mine back fresh from it's first RROD repair. The ****ing thing is a whole heap noisier. Anyone else get this upon a return? Eugh.

My mate just found the same thing from his return. It buzzes and wherrrrrssss like an old 486.

[/backslash]

Just got mine back fresh from it's first RROD repair. The ****ing thing is a whole heap noisier. Anyone else get this upon a return? Eugh.
Elite, Pro or Arcade?

[Lazlow]

On the flip side, the refurb I got back was a whole lot quieter.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

The one I got back was just right.

[/backslash]

The ****ing thing is a whole heap noisier

On the flip side, the refurb I got back was a whole lot quieter.

The one I got back was just right.

http://www.goldilockschristianity.com/images/lukewarm_christian.jpg

(reminded me of Goldilocks + 3 bears)

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

mcbain.jpg

[AranchineD]

I think that's what Blake was going for, yes

[Second]

But this was Goldilocks... on blueray!

[Lazlow]

Tomorrow I'm going out to the shopping centre and coming back with a new XBOX 360.

Currently starting at a dashboard screen with no menus.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4536/117315896fb1f782ec5aef2.jpg

And this is after rebooting from my second freeze in the last 30 minutes.

[/backslash]

Tomorrow I'm going out to the shopping centre and coming back with a new XBOX 360.

Currently starting at a dashboard screen with no menus.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4536/117315896fb1f782ec5aef2.jpg

And this is after rebooting from my second freeze in the last 30 minutes.
Are those air bubbles from your iPhone with a screen protector over the camera?

Hmm, yep, your console will be a whole lot quieter now since it'll be turned off :p Was yours an Elite? I need to tally all the ppl with Elites/Pros/Arcades, its too confusing

[Cerebral]

Get the slim, man. You'll be the talk of the town.

[Silverwolf]

Are those air bubbles from your iPhone with a screen protector over the camera?

Those aren't air bubbles.

[/backslash]

Those aren't air bubbles.
Bokeh on the dashboard? I dunno what it is :p

[REQUIEM]

I wouldnt buy another 1st generation Xbox ever again after last time. There is bound to be issues like normal. I would grab an old elite with the games deal from Jb for $250.

[Spazzola]

Bokeh on the dashboard? I dunno what it is :p

It's the background.

[Lazlow]

I went into JB Thursday night to sniff out the Elite + 2 games for $250 deal... but I couldn't see a single console box anywhere, let alone a display.

I hate having to deal with sales staff.

[REQUIEM]

My 360 has gone from starting the "cant read disc" everynow and again to a loud humming while playing games. Dam it I was just in GAME this morning and could have grabbed the elite deal if I knew it was going to start this BS again!! Is anyone else worried about the 360 Slims reliabilty in terms of it being the new version or should I look at it like the new and Improved with NO PROBLEMS to worry about?

[freeradical]

All Electronic goods can have issues. Even the much lauded PS3 has hardware failure. Even in the PC world there are failures of components. This, and the past history of the 360, is making me somewhat cautious. I will be waiting till xmas and hope there is some sort of Kinect package deal and that would have allowed a good six months to 'identify' emerging issues.
My Elite no longer reads discs when in the vertical position. I dont get the cant read disc message, i just get 'open tray' after disc has been put in (cannot select play disc). Now horizontal, and seems to have solved it-but it has upset the aesthetic of my set up, as i have the PS3 vertical on one side of the TV and the 360 vertical on the other.

[Lazlow]

I went into JB Thursday night to sniff out the Elite + 2 games for $250 deal... but I couldn't see a single console box anywhere, let alone a display.

I hate having to deal with sales staff.


Found the display, nowhere near the gaming area, down the back with the DVD players and LCD TVs.

So now I have a new Elite, with a superfluous copy of Forza 3, my first Halo game, and an extra 120GB drive.

[fishonthecarpet]

Elite, Pro or Arcade?

Arcade!

[tau]

So uh, I'm trying to put in a service order or whatevs to the xbox site for a RROD'd 360 Pro. It says the regular 1year warranty ends jan 09, so i'd assume it's still under the 3 year RROD warranty. When I go to submit details and stuff, it asks for a credit card, and now says I'll be charged 149. What gives? Do I just continue and they'll realise not to charge me out the arse for no reason?

[REQUIEM]

So uh, I'm trying to put in a service order or whatevs to the xbox site for a RROD'd 360 Pro. It says the regular 1year warranty ends jan 09, so i'd assume it's still under the 3 year RROD warranty. When I go to submit details and stuff, it asks for a credit card, and now says I'll be charged 149. What gives? Do I just continue and they'll realise not to charge me out the arse for no reason?

Never pay upfront if under warranty. Phone M$ and yell like a mad woman.

[tau]

I just tried to call, turns out the call center is closed atm. Will try tomorrow!

[tau]

Mum: So how do you know what's wrong with it if it won't turn on?" "It has these red light thingies, look *plugs it in* k so see the four red lights, that means there's no AV cables plugged in, now it'll flash 3.... in a sec... juuust a.... wait... *plugs in av cables* IT WORKS WHAT THE HELL!?"

yey i guess lol! Might trade it in for $70 at GAME before it dies again though <___<

[tau]

So... a few minutes into FF13 and *BSHHHTT* graphics glitch out, RRoD again LoL!

It's also not actually under warranty any more. **** it. Will grab an S later :(

[SOX]

Seeing the Halo Reach armour permutations was enough to get my shit sorted and send away my RRoD 360 that's been sitting unused for half a year..

[fearofthesky]

I damaged my 360's disk tray last night while fumbling around for the Rock Band 2 disk. I just bumped it slightly, closed it and it refused to reopen. Moved the 360 and placed it horizontally instead, and presto, operation resumed. Bloody. Annoying.

Anyone have a similar issue with 360 disk drives?

[SOX]

How long does it usually take for a 360 to get returned after you send it away (for RRoD)?

[TrinityJayOne]

It varies depending on your location. Some people report about 5 days, others like myself wait 10. It will be sent to Sydney, so the eastern states fare better.

[AranchineD]

About a week.

[freeradical]

19 days here in regional SA. Heard similar in WA

[SOX]

Righto so at least another week for Perth

[freeradical]

I think if you allow yourself 3 weeks you wont be disappointed. If it comes back quicker-bonus :)

[adam_91vn]

Righto so at least another week for Perth

Mine was gone for 13 days

[AranchineD]

I spent 4 ****ing hours last night trying to get my 360 to hook up to my new router and get onto Live. I did everything I could possibly think to do, followed Trin's guide as much as I could, searched on the net. I can't even point out the exact problem, I'll test the connection and it'll fail at a different step every single time I try without me changing a single option. '360 can't be assigned an IP', then it can, then 'Your MTU settings aren't high enough', and then suddenly they are. A few times I did manage to get to Live, where it said I had to download an update, so I press yes, where I'm meeted with 'Download failed' everytime. I'm going to try and download the update on my comp and put it on a CD to install but I have to go and buy some blank discs first, and I'm hoping there'll be an easier way.

I bought a Belkin modem/router (model's F5D5630au4 in case anyone's interested), so if there's any issues with that please tell me so I can go out and blow a car up in anger or something.

plees halp


It also occurs to me that Dodo are a ****ing shit ISP and may be contributing to the problem somewhat

[freeradical]

I spent 4 ****ing hours last night trying to get my 360 to hook up to my new router and get onto Live. I did everything I could possibly think to do, followed Trin's guide as much as I could, searched on the net. I can't even point out the exact problem, I'll test the connection and it'll fail at a different step every single time I try without me changing a single option. '360 can't be assigned an IP', then it can, then 'Your MTU settings aren't high enough', and then suddenly they are. A few times I did manage to get to Live, where it said I had to download an update, so I press yes, where I'm meeted with 'Download failed' everytime. I'm going to try and download the update on my comp and put it on a CD to install but I have to go and buy some blank discs first, and I'm hoping there'll be an easier way.

I bought a Belkin modem/router (model's F5D5630au4 in case anyone's interested), so if there's any issues with that please tell me so I can go out and blow a car up in anger or something.

plees halp


It also occurs to me that Dodo are a ****ing shit ISP and may be contributing to the problem somewhat

There is a general consensus on some forums (such as Whirlpool) that Belkin are to be avoided (consistant with my Belkin experience). Would be good if you could borrow a different brand router from someone/somewhere to eliminate if it is the Belkin that is the issue. Also, that model is fairly old (2006/7). Firmware update may be required? Firmware update here http://www.belkin.com/au/support/article/?lid=ena&pid=F5D5630au4&aid=7139&scid=845 However, in typical Belkin style the last update is March 2007. Might be worth a try though.

Dodo! Suprised they are still in business!

Edit: a tip when making/saving changes to routers etc, rebooting the modem is often recommended :)

[AranchineD]

I did indeed download the latest firmware for it, and I have been rebooting the thing after I've made changes to its settings every time.

Guess I shouldn't have just gone with what I could actually in any retail shops and just ordered one people suggested in the Random Question thread online. :(

[TrinityJayOne]

What he said. Even the proper settings can fail to hardware. I wrote the damned guide and perfect settings couldn't get 2 Boxes running with proper NAT. Came down to something on the router firmware (disappointing for a Linksys), cos I swapped it for a custom one and had it working in minutes.

Sometimes working and sometimes not is cos the router is letting packets through only half the time. For MTU try taking it off auto.1500 is a fairly safe setting I think.

[AranchineD]

I don't even think this thing had an auto setting for MTU, when I checked it out it was already sitting on 1500. Even more bad news for me then, I guess.

Okay, last resort: someone tell me, if they're using a router to connect to Live, what router they're using, and I'll replace this new one with that one AND FINALLY KNOW JOY IN MY HEART

[freeradical]

Well, everyone will have an opinion, but i've been using the Dynalink RTA1025W modem/router for 3 years without issue (once i enabled UPnP-doh!). For reference, in my household there are 3 laptops, 1 PC, 2 wired 360's, 1 wireless 360 and 1 wireless PS3 connected via this unit (big household :)).
http://www.cormain.com.au/retail/agora.cgi?cart_id=36.28948&p_id=D-1025W&xm=on&ppinc=detail

Also heard good things about Billions such as this (although this is wireless N) http://www.cormain.com.au/retail/agora.cgi?cart_id=36.28948&p_id=B-7800NL&xm=on&ppinc=detail

EDIT: couple of non-wireless models

http://www.cormain.com.au/retail/agora.cgi?cart_id=36.28948&p_id=B-5200&xm=on&ppinc=detail
http://www.cormain.com.au/retail/agora.cgi?cart_id=36.28948&p_id=D-1320&xm=on&ppinc=detail

I have no personal experience with these though.

These threads can be usefull when trying to select a modem/router
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1270612
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1268813

While these are not specif for Xbox live connections, they do provide some feedback on real world experiences/recommendations

As always, individual mileage may vary :)

[adam_91vn]

Billion > *

7800N is $210 but even the 5200N $115 does an excellent job.

[fearofthesky]

I've never had a problem with my Billion wireless G/modem/router. Everything connects up well (360 wired, laptop, Wii wireless, DSi and Samsung phone) and stays connected. The only issue I have had is sometimes getting a firewall error when attempting to use the 360's media streaming via network from my laptop. I think this is caused by my stupid internet security program, though.

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Billion > *

7800N is $210 but even the 5200N $115 does an excellent job.
That thing is as stable as Bill Gates rolling in money :p Haven't had a single problem with it & even when I do its either my ISP or my crummy wireless card in the PS3

[Nic Xtreme]

So I'm having the same shit as Aran did, my new NetComm gateway is shit and MTU issues keep coming up.

The iPhone, laptop and PS3 all connect fine, but the Wii keeps getting some bullshit error also.

So I'll just buy a new router, then.

EDIT: Thanks to the Indian man at Netcomm, all I needed to do was untick "uPNP" or something. Now I need to get rid of the moderate NAT...

[KickyFunkFresh]

Xbox is out of warranty (12 months), the only disc it will read is Super Street Fighter IV.

So until I can afford to get it fixed or replace it, I'm stuck playing that, or anything downloaded from the marketplace.

Sucks cause the unplayed games pile is growing ever bigger :P

[HiredMan]

My launch Elite RRoD'd last night, pretty sure it's out of warranty now :( Will probably grab a slim next week.

[Starscream]

My launch Elite RRoD'd last night, pretty sure it's out of warranty now :( Will probably grab a slim next week.

I think there's a Harvey Norman special this weekend. You might be better off buying an arcade Jasper and using the hard drive from the Elite. They should are around the $200 mark these days.

[freeradical]

Nah, 360 Slim is what all the cool kids have these days. So so cool and quiet :).

[Starscream]

I don't know how much a 360 slim is these days, but if ever my launch Elite fails again I'd probably get an arcade Jasper (depends if it's still available).

I suggested it to HiredMan because my brother texted me and he saw arcade Jaspers for less than $200 at HN.

[HiredMan]

Yeah, the arcade is the plan atm.

$200 beats $450+transfer pack.

[Jickle]

Just had a really weird problem with my 360. I downloaded the Tempest Pack for Hydro Thunder, and when it finished, the notification to let me know I'd downloaded it kept popping up over and over and over again. I went to load up the game, and my 360 froze. I reset it, and the notification was still popping up. I went into 'Active Downloads', and it was still in the queue, alternating between 17% and 100% repeatedly. Eventually I switched to a different account and deleted the content from my hard drive from there, then jumped back to my primary account. I went into Active Downloads, and the Tempest Pack was back in there, but frozen at 17%. It wasn't letting me cancel the download, nor download anything else. Eventually, after fiddling around for about 10 mins, it let me stop the download, so I'm hoping my worries are at an end. It was really weird though, has anyone else encountered this?

[TrinityJayOne]

Never seen that before, and no troubles with that particular DLC either, although it was pretty slow (20mins for 100MB I think it was, whereas the Burnout: Hot Pursuit demo at 1.4GB took about 10mins).

[Xanafalgue]

Is it possible to have 1 profile on two machines? I keep having to retrieve my gamertag profile every time I use a different 360...

[adam_91vn]

Don't think so. I just have my profile stored on a usb. Quick and easy to use between the 2 machines.

[TrinityJayOne]

No Larz, it isn't. What Adam said would be my suggestion.

[Xanafalgue]

Alright, cheers guys. I'm sure I have an old memory card lying around somewhere.

[Hyperblau]

Just got the RROD on my launch 20gb unit. Third time its happened to this box, out of warranty now though, looks like ill be trying to find a new one soon.

Gave it 5 minutes though and it started up again. Might be ok for a while but not sure.

[Stevorooni]

There's still a launch 20gb unit out in the wild? That thing belongs in a museum!

[Xanafalgue]

Thing must've sounded like a ****ing 747 :D

Now is the perfect time to go get the $468 Kinect+250GB slim bundle from HN... They aren't bundling Dance Central any more, but it looks like you get Motion Sports and Your Shape: Fitness Evolved http://www.harveynorman.com.au/product/1256973313672/xbox--gb-kinect-bundle

[Hyperblau]

I really dont want kinect though.

[Xanafalgue]

The reason I mentioned that Kinect bundle is that the standalone 250GB with nothing is pretty much the same price. So you're getting a whole lot of extra shit for about $25.

Actually, Game have a 250GB with NFS: Hot Persuit and Medal of Honor for $499 which is pretty good.

[Hyperblau]

I might pick up the harvey norman deal today and sell the kinect to a guy here at work.

[Stevorooni]

Just keep in mind that the Kinect bundle with the console will only work on the new model because it doesn't have the extra power cable required for the old model 360.

[Hyperblau]

SUGHauiogherogp

[Xanafalgue]

Join us :)

[Hyperblau]

I wouldnt have anywhere to set it up anyway. Can you buy the power adapter?

[Xanafalgue]

Yep, but from what I've seen/read price varies from $30 to $50.

[Hyperblau]

Is there anything coming out on Kinect worth looking at? I dont care for dancing games and casual rubbish.

[Xanafalgue]

I dont care for dancing games

!

Don't know what you're into... Steel Battalion: Heavy Armour for Kinect was announced at TGS, as were a Suda 51 game, a horror game from Sega (Rise of Nightmares).. then there is stuff like You Don't Know Jack, Child of Eden.. oh and GET FIT WITH MEL B.

And of course http://www.hyper.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=21217&highlight=panzer

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

So no.

[Xanafalgue]

Basically, hehe

[Hyperblau]

Does anyone have the power cable they arent using?

[HD Boy]

Put a parental code on all games M and above when little cousins visited last month, I cannot remember the password... is there any way around this? I cannot remember my secret question and it won't even let me factory reset the console without removing the family setting code.

[Natrak]

Don't give him any advice, it's clear that he is a minor trying to circumvent parental controls.

[HD Boy]

Ffs, surely you're joking.

[TrinityJayOne]

I very highly doubt this issue is user-serviceable, because if it was there'd be no point in turning it on in the first place.

[Natrak]

Ffs, surely you're joking.

Am I...HD Boy?

[Tonez]

Put a parental code on all games M and above when little cousins visited last month, I cannot remember the password... is there any way around this? I cannot remember my secret question and it won't even let me factory reset the console without removing the family setting code.

You forgot your password and your secret question? How does one do that?

My suggestion is to call XBOX Support.

[Lazlow]

Be sure to drop in a casual "Oh, yes of course that's what I meant, Visa. It's these new dentures"

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Your code is 1111.

[HD Boy]

I had an obvious secret question with a completely random answer, I thought I could remember but it seems I can't.

[TrinityJayOne]

Sounds like you goofed up.

I searched online and found a bunch of different codes and processes, some simple and some complex. None of the simple ones worked for me and the complex processes were talking about the old dashboard. I'd call Microsoft.

[Knuckle Children]

So, I've got the RROD on a 4 yr old machine. How much will MS charge me for a refurb? Any ideas?

I barely use the thing, I can't justify $250ish on a new console and I'm guessing buying a second hand 360 is a minefield.

[Starscream]

If it costs more than $250 to get a non Xbox slim refurb (you will be definitely getting a refurb), you're better off using the money for a new Xbox slim. Look around for some Christmas specials.

[NiB]

Anybody else having connection issues to LIVE after the dash update ?

[TrinityJayOne]

If it costs more than $250 to get a non Xbox slim refurb (you will be definitely getting a refurb), you're better off using the money for a new Xbox slim. Look around for some Christmas specials.

Boxing day sales.

[Starscream]

Boxing day sales.

Wednesday (7-12-2011) specials for 4G Xbox Slim were $158 at Harvey Norman and $169 at JB.

Both cheaper than a 3DS!

Still waiting on fire sales for PS2 slim and DSiXL consoles.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Anybody else having connection issues to LIVE after the dash update ?

Apparently quite a few people, yes.

[Starscream]

Boxing day sales.

Good call. Xbox 4GB slims are $149 at JB until Friday 30.12.2011