Xbox Live Marketplace - Discussion & Releases

[TrinityJayOne]

http://www.wolfereports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/russiansub.jpg

"Once more, we play our dangerous game"

[Shorty]

What, this game (http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1488)?

[TrinityJayOne]

More like a game involving

http://members.iinet.net.au/~trinityjayone/ivanicon.gif

[Xanafalgue]

Anyone have Monday Night Combat? Thinking of buying it..

[Natrak]

Yeah, I picked it up, and I really like it.

[Xanafalgue]

Yeah, I picked it up, and I really like it.

Ended up buying it too, getting my arse kicked left right and centre! Sticking with Assault for now, I find Assassin pretty difficult to work with.

[Xanafalgue]

Oh and its good :)

[Natrak]

Awesome. I've really enjoyed playing as the Support class, myself. Tank was also quite good.

[Xanafalgue]

Tank is awesome. Why aren't more people talking about this?! Game is rad.

[Watchers]

Mainly because I don't really feel like plonking down money on an online-only game that likely no-one will be playing in a few weeks. Concept is neat, though.

[NiB]

Mainly because I don't really feel like plonking down money on an online-only game that likely no-one will be playing in a few weeks. Concept is neat, though.

That's the only thing stopping me grabbing it. If it was only 800pts I'd bite the bullet but after spending 1200 on limbo for 6 hours or so of play I can't talk myself into it. (Limbo was awesome but replayability is very low)

[Lex]

an online-only game that likely no-one will be playing in a few weeks.

Really hoping this isn't the case, coz it's a great game.

It does have singleplayer btw, it's just a bit limited.

but after spending 1200 on limbo for 6 hours or so of play I can't talk myself into it.

$20 for 6 hours, gosh, what a jip.

[Clockw0rk]

Is 1200pts the new standard for XBLA games? There seems to be more and more of them, and fewer and fewer 800pts games.

[freeradical]

May be starting to move that way. I guess developers are spending more on delivering "bigger/better" Arcade games and are seeking appropriate recompense.

[tau]

also remember, devs started off having a fairly restrictive file size limit. Now they can do a lot more, so that only adds to them wanting more money for their games.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Plus, as we all know, devs are greedy bastards, and would kill you and everyone you love if you gave them the chance.

[Shorty]

also remember, devs started off having a fairly restrictive file size limit. Now they can do a lot more, so that only adds to them wanting more money for their games.

If by "devs" you mean "publishers", then sure.

[aubergine]

We can all thank Jonothan Blow for this horrible development.

[tau]

If by "devs" you mean "publishers", then sure.

wha? Developers would be forced to work with the file size limit. A publisher... publishes a game.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I think he was working the "publishers like money" angle.

[tau]

rightey-o then.

But games with more content cost more, so devs would want more money for having worked harder. The publisher's role in the bumping up of price would be so the dev gets proper compensation.

[Shorty]

But games with more content cost more, so devs would want more money for having worked harder. The publisher's role in the bumping up of price would be so the dev gets proper compensation.

I'm sure the former members of Infinity Ward would have very interesting things to say about the phrase "proper compensation".

[tau]

Well yeah, the digital labor industry is generally underpaid and retarded in general. Yeah grats Shia LeBouf, you ran around in circles and said some words. How much more money did you get than the guys who actually made the movie's effects? Yeah. Good work champ!

etc

[Antwandemarco]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-16-lara-croft-and-the-guardian-of-light-review?page=1

Wow the new tomb raider gets a 9 from EG. Had been looking forward to it since the original trailer but the review makes it sound awesome

[Clockw0rk]

Pretty sure they had me at co-op.

[aubergine]

-because RE5 was like so awesome.

I didn't expect glowing reviews for this, but it's getting "Better than Shadow Complex" kudos.

[AranchineD]

-because RE5 was like so awesome.

It was.

[Lex]

It was pretty decent. In coop.

[HiredMan]

Is this shizz 800 or 1200?

[freeradical]

1200! But sounding like its worth it.

[Clockw0rk]

Plus there's no FM3 car pack this week so you're safe spending the extra 400pts :)
I didn't expect glowing reviews for this, but it's getting "Better than Shadow Complex" kudos.
I'll believe that when I play it, that's a pretty bold claim.

[TrinityJayOne]

The lack of Live MP is a bit weird, I don't get the reasoning behind it at all. My housemate will likely play local with me though so whatever!

[tau]

It's coming in a patch that'll coincide with the ps3 version's launch. Maybe they're not confidant with the netcode or something. Or they sux.

[Clockw0rk]

The lack of Live MP is a bit weird, I don't get the reasoning behind it at all. My housemate will likely play local with me though so whatever!
Couldn't be arsed making decent netcode? Time constraints?

[TrinityJayOne]

What Tau said, so I'm more convinced that it's something to do with the platform-wide launch. Makes zero sense to just withhold part of the game like that.

[TrinityJayOne]

Just read through the Eurogamer review as I only glossed over it on my phone today, and noticed that it's 2GB?! It's a good time to be with iiNet. :) Modems, start your squealing!

[Clockw0rk]

Any news on an accidental early release on the usual XBLA sites?

[Natrak]

Just had a look, it's up on the Dutch Marketplace! http://marketplace.xbox.com/nl-NL/games/offers/00000001-0000-4000-8000-000058410a59

[Clockw0rk]

Many thanks!

On a related note, despite doing my account transfer, whenever I use the website links to download stuff off Xbox Live it comes up on my queue as "assigned to another console". No ****ing clue what's going on.

[TrinityJayOne]

Just got home, downloading now. :D That really sucks about the website downloading. I've never done the transfer thing so I don't know what it involves, but perhaps the console registration is wrong or something? Go here (https://service.xbox.com/device.aspx?dvc=0), log in and see if the serial number matches the one on your console.

[Natrak]

Many thanks!

On a related note, despite doing my account transfer, whenever I use the website links to download stuff off Xbox Live it comes up on my queue as "assigned to another console". No ****ing clue what's going on.

Yeah, mine does the same thing - I've done the content liscence transfer, but yeah, anything I queue up on the web marketplace gets assigned to my old console. I checked the link Trin provided and the right system is registered there so it doesn't look like I can fix it up from that site.

Anyway, gave the first two levels a go in co-op, it's pretty awesome. The puzzles are fun and the co-op works really well. The visuals are really nice, too.

[TrinityJayOne]

Indeed, 60fps would've been stellar though! I only did the first area then turned it off, gonna wait til o can play it with my housemate on the weekend.

[Clockw0rk]

Yeah, mine does the same thing - I've done the content liscence transfer, but yeah, anything I queue up on the web marketplace gets assigned to my old console. I checked the link Trin provided and the right system is registered there so it doesn't look like I can fix it up from that site.

Anyway, gave the first two levels a go in co-op, it's pretty awesome. The puzzles are fun and the co-op works really well. The visuals are really nice, too.

Glad it's not just a problem with me! It doesn't seem to be an issue though - once I downloaded it, it was assigned to the correct console and I could play it offline and with other accounts (which I wouldn't be able to do if it wasn't assigned to the console).

It finished downloading at 11:50 last night so I didn't get the chance to actually play it, will get it going with the flatmates tonight :D

[Dukotoja]

couple of questions that im too lazy to find on my own:

1. can you gift games to other XBL users?

2 can you receive gifted games if you do not have a gold account?

3. what exactly does not having a gold account limit?

[Pai Mel]

1. No. But you can buy M$ Points cards which you can gift to other gamers, and they may use the points to purchase games for themselves if they have an internet connection and an Xbox Live account. I have seen cards with redemption codes for games. eg. I got a redemption card for Banjp-Kazooie which I got for free when I purchased a FightStick, but I'm not sure where you actually buy them from. But if you did have one of these cards (eg. original Call of Duty that comes with the Hardened Edition of MW2), then you will be able to gift them to somebody else.

2. You do not have to have a Gold account in order to download and play games from Xbox Live Arcade or Games on Demand.

3. Playing against other people online and discounts is only available for Gold members.

Ah ok, apparently some stores (http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=563426) sell game cards.

http://www.randyrants.com/images/xbla.jpg

[Xanafalgue]

Tried the Lara Croft thingie demo - suprisingly awesome! Any reason why there is no online co-op now?

Meanwhile, Monday Night Combat is still rad.

[banjoeskimo]

Lara Croft will have online co-op in an upcoming patch. Not sure why it wasn't there at launch, but nevertheless, it's coming.

Finished Limbo last night, great little title. Bit spendy for the length / replay value, but it was fantastic while it lasted so I'm not feeling too ripped off.

Finished Deathspank last week too, highly recommended. Co-op was surprisingly fun and simple, ala Super Mario Galaxy. Makes great girlfriend / spouse fodder if you're looking for something fun and low-stress to play together.

[Clockw0rk]

I’m probably just cynical and jaded but I found the humour in Deathspank forced and not particularly funny. Played a level of Lara Croft with my girlfriend though, went very well considering we were both super tired. Played more yesterday, co-op is definitely the way to go despite the fact that all the puzzles can be solved by one person in SP.



Finished "The Summoning" yesterday afternoon before switching off, none of the puzzles have been particularly difficult yet so I'm hoping they pick up in the later levels. It'll be fun going through to complete all the challenges though (did "Hole in One" in the Spider's Tomb on my first attempt, yay).

[Lex]

Agreed on deathspank, the trial just left me cringing. Can't stand that style of homour.

[Natrak]

Guardian of Light is great in co-op, but it's also great in single player. Highly recommended whether you'll be able to play co-op right away or not.

[Clockw0rk]

Guardian of Light is great in co-op, but it's also great in single player. Highly recommended whether you'll be able to play co-op right away or not.
Absolutely agreed. Still, definitely more fun/makes more sense in co-op. (Lara with a spear? o_O)

[TrinityJayOne]

Just got an email that DeathSpank is receiving a sequel. Nice. :D

[ElPresidente]

Absolutely agreed. Still, definitely more fun/makes more sense in co-op. (Lara with a spear? o_O)

She can hold my sp...

I'll stop. :P

[Clockw0rk]

She can hold my sp...

I'll stop. :P
Reminds me of that scene from The Lusty Argonian Maid by Crassius Curio.

"Here, polish my spear."
"But it's huge! That could take all night!"

/obscure Morrowind reference.

[aubergine]

I figured he meant Gameboy Advance SP.

She has her own clamshell though.

[Lex]

Just got an email that DeathSpank is receiving a sequel. Nice. :D

Oh :(

[Xanafalgue]

Just got an email that DeathSpank is receiving a sequel. Nice. :D

Wasn't the first game released last month? O_O

[tau]

Well they're not saying it's coming out tomorrow, just that it's coming!

[Clockw0rk]

Release is September 22nd.

In one of the fastest sequel turnarounds you'll see in gaming, last month's fun and funny fantasy action game DeathSpank will be succeeded in September by DeathSpank: Thongs of Virtue.
LOL FUNNY SUBTITLE
He promises it'll be funnier. Of all things, we might consult the Thongs of Virtue press release to test that boast. It describes the plot of the game: "A long time ago, nine mystical thongs were planned to bring balance and harmony to the universe, but when marketing got in the way, only six thongs were produced, and the result was disastrous. Granting great power to those who wear them, the thongs corrupted all those they touched—except DeathSpank. DeathSpank must find all six thongs and destroy them once and for all."
LOL THONGS
"the ninjatastic Kung Fu moves of DeathSpank's new partner in crime, Steve."
LOL NINJAS CALLED STEVE, SILLY GAME

http://kotaku.com/5617364/we-get-a-surprise-deathspank-sequel-next-month?skyline=true&s=i

Full article here. LOL SO RANDUM XD

[Manny M]

Gave the Lara Croft trial a crack... I like!

[Natrak]

I think I'll be getting the new DeathSpank, I really enjoyed the first one and found it to be regularly laugh-out-loud funny. I wish they'd drop the price to 800 points, though.

Anyway, Shank is up! It looks awesome, so I'm grabbing the trial. It's another big file, 1.9GB. Scott Pilgrim vs. The World has also hit XBLA tonight.

[tau]

D:~ must get scott pilgrim. Also must get time to play scott pilgrim.

[Xanafalgue]

Downloaded 2 Arcade trials this morning...

Shank: Won't be buying

Scott Pilgrim: OH MY GOD EVERYTHING I LOVE ABOUT 8-BIT GAMES JUST CAME ALL OVER MY TITS.

I really wants to buy Scott Pilgrim but I'm really shitty at the lack of online co-op. And he moves REALLY slowly :/

Edit: and the music is awesome!!

[Clockw0rk]

Downloaded 2 Arcade trials this morning...

Shank: Won't be buying

Scott Pilgrim: OH MY GOD EVERYTHING I LOVE ABOUT 8-BIT GAMES JUST CAME ALL OVER MY TITS.

I really wants to buy Scott Pilgrim but I'm really shitty at the lack of online co-op. And he moves REALLY slowly :/

Edit: and the music is awesome!!
Isn't Scott Pilgrim an homage to old 16-bit games rather than 8-bit?
I have IRL friends so if the trial is decent I'll get it for local co-op.

[Xanafalgue]

Isn't Scott Pilgrim an homage to old 16-bit games rather than 8-bit?
I have IRL friends so if the trial is decent I'll get it for local co-op.

8-bit... 16-bit... all good :D

[Natrak]

Shank is disappointing, I really enjoyed the trial so I bought the full game. I love the visuals and animation, the little platforming that's there is nice, the combat itself is quite fun...but it seems like a lot of the enemies are just frustrating.

[grimace06]

Shank is disappointing, I really enjoyed the trial so I bought the full game. I love the visuals and animation, the little platforming that's there is nice, the combat itself is quite fun...but it seems like a lot of the enemies are just frustrating.

Sounds like The Dishwasher.

[NiB]

Grabbed Scott Pilgram last nite...only 800 pts and its ***king sweet sweet oldskool double dragon/river city ransom goodness

The music is a soundtrack to my nostalgic nerdgasm's !

2-4 local co-op is a blast

Everyone must get !

[Xanafalgue]

The music is a soundtrack to my nostalgic nerdgasm's !

Amazing, isn't it! I love the music but in particular the 1st level (youtube Another Winter..!) :D

[Mr.Mew]

Everything about Scott Pilgrim is cool sans the burly guy with the brown hat one hit killing me. Seriously, a massive 100 just rises out of a punch he committed. I ****ing hate that guy.

[Watchers]

Sounds like The Dishwasher.

The Dishwasher was great though.

[Natrak]

Shank is actually pretty great, there are certain annoying parts, but on the whole I wound up actually quite enjoying it. It's not as good as I'd hoped it would be, but it's pretty good anyway. It might be worth holding off and seeing if it goes for 800 points or less at some point, though.

[grimace06]

The Dishwasher was great though.

I thought it was cheap and half-arsed.

Art style was nice though.

[Watchers]

I thought it was cheap and half-arsed.

Art style was nice though.

Your mum is cheap and half-arsed. ;) I actually really enjoyed the combo system and flow of the fighting.


So how much is Shank atm? 1200? I dunno, I really like that style of game normally, but I've already got so much to play...

[Natrak]

For the record, the game is about 3 hours and change long (hard difficulty would take significantly longer with no checkpoints, though). Co-op is local only, and there's not much to do beyond that. A few costumes to unlock, but that's it.

[Xanafalgue]

Monday Night Combat is officially my Battlefield 1943 for 2010... so fun and addictive :D

[Lex]

Monday Night Combat is officially my Battlefield 1943 for 2010... so fun and addictive :D

Sweet, someone to play with. The lag is horrible with Americans.

[tau]

Was going to ask if I should get MNC or C:HoD but guess MNC it is then huh.

[Natrak]

MNC is pretty great.

[Xanafalgue]

one of us, one of us!

[tau]

So uh, when do you guys actually play?

[Xanafalgue]

Play with me some mornings.

[Xanafalgue]

Big update for MNC coming soon and the first round of DLC is free! :D

http://uberent.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2371

[Xanafalgue]

Oh and DR2:Case Zero is out tomorrow...O_O

So much Arcade goodness the last few weeks.

[tau]

Play with me some mornings.

You only need to ask once.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

We talkin' bout bangin'!

[Natrak]

Oh and DR2:Case Zero is out tomorrow...O_O

So much Arcade goodness the last few weeks.
I think Case Zero wasn't going to hit until September 3rd for PAL regions. Apparantly its been delayed in Japan (http://kotaku.com/5625267/dead-rising-2-case-0-delayed), so it could be an even longer wait...

As for the MNC patch.
-Supports can now only Hack enemy turrets at Hack level 3.
-Increased the time to Hack enemy turrets.Noooooooooo. Not that it's a tactic I relied on, but I'll regularly attempt hacking an enemy turret while juiced, having to wait until I reach Hack level 3 and it taking longer to do kind of sucks, it feels a bit hard to pull off in the first place.
-Fixed Heal/Hurt gun not being affected by rate of fire endorsements and reduced it’s overall healing/hurting ability to compensate for the change.Ugh. I don't even use rate or fire. Guess it's a necessary change, because the hurt/heal gun would be pretty crazy with an increased fire rate if they didn't drop the damage.
Reworked Support’s bot aura so that it doesn't make the Jackbot appear overhealed.Huzzah. Overhealed Jackbots are ridiculous.
Fixed players being able to damage the Moneyball’s shields.
Awesome, it was getting annoying seeing the shields dropped by a lone juiced gunner when pros weren't supposed to be able to damage the moneyball until the shield was down.

[FrozenSoul80]

How often do gamecard.com.au get stock in of new codes? I need a new 12 month Live sub and they are out of stock :(

[Pai Mel]

Before gamecard.com.au appeared, everyone used to mention http://maximuscards.com/itempage.php?cat=1 and before them, some dude called Jasper.

[Xanafalgue]

I think Case Zero wasn't going to hit until September 3rd for PAL regions. Apparantly its been delayed in Japan (http://kotaku.com/5625267/dead-rising-2-case-0-delayed), so it could be an even longer wait...

I think you're referring to Dead Rising 2 because Case Zero is up on the marketplace now! 400MSP! Steal :cool:

[Mr.Mew]

I was worried we would get the UK Case Zero release date. Thanks to Barry Wheeler we didn't.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-

[Natrak]

I think you're referring to Dead Rising 2 because Case Zero is up on the marketplace now! 400MSP! Steal :cool:

I was referring to Case Zero, but I'll gladly take the hit and say I was completely wrong. Awesomesauce.

Edit: Can't sign into Xbox Live for some reason. My connection's fine. Anyone else having any trouble?

[aubergine]

Yes, because I'm in bed and my xbox is turned off in a different room.

[ElPresidente]

I was referring to Case Zero, but I'll gladly take the hit and say I was completely wrong. Awesomesauce.

Edit: Can't sign into Xbox Live for some reason. My connection's fine. Anyone else having any trouble?

I think a few people were experiencing this problem last night as the Australian Xbox Twitter account was asking about issues people were having.

[tau]

Holy crap, you really must be excited for Catherine if it made you deviate from your Bayonetta av.

[Xanafalgue]

Only spend about 15 minutes with DR:Case Zero but like the first game, I am terrible at it.

[VanAce]

I downloaded the trial for Limbo and I am enjoyed it a lot. I think I will pick it up when I get some points. I love the visual style and it has some interesting puzzles.

[Natrak]

Holy crap, you really must be excited for Catherine if it made you deviate from your Bayonetta av.

*BlazBlue av.

[StorminNorman]

Bangai-O coming to XBLA. (http://kotaku.com/5626792/bangai+o-brings-the-missile-fury-to-xbox-live-arcade)

Can. Not. Wait.

[Xanafalgue]

Is the Vanquish demo up tonight?

[Natrak]

No idea, if it doesn't go up, just sign up for a US PSN account and grab it from there.

[Xanafalgue]

just sign up for a US PSN account and grab it from there.

Naaah, 360 is unmetered :D

Meanwhile, here is what Foxtel on 360 looks like http://www.cnet.com.au/foxtel-for-xbox-360-offers-30-channels-339305708.htm

[ElPresidente]

Bangai-O coming to XBLA. (http://kotaku.com/5626792/bangai+o-brings-the-missile-fury-to-xbox-live-arcade)

Can. Not. Wait.

I hear that. It and Radiant Silvergun are the only Treasure shooters I'm yet to play.

[StorminNorman]

If you bring a working Japanese Saturn to my place, you can play Radiant Silvergun all you want. :p

[ElPresidente]

Yet I'd not be able leave with Saturn in hand without sacrificing my life huh? :P

[naclj]

my best mate came round on sunday, a few beers, a whopper and 6 hours and we completed Tomb Raider in 1 sitting.

damn it was good, it is easily the best looking XBLA game and it was heaps of fun.
so much in fact that after we finished it i went and started trying to get all the objectives on each level.

it got pretty bloody insane in some of the later levels. there cant really be that much shooting in a tomb raider game can there.

I still am really impressed with the types of games were getting on xbla and the fact they really do keep getting better

[Xanafalgue]

Vanquish demo was pretty effing cool. If its longer than 8 hours then I will be there day 1.

[tau]

So uh, even though I want to love MNC I just can't. The lag makes the game shit. That and I feel like I can't properly enjoy Lara Croft without playing it co-op, so my drive to play it solo is killed there.

And there's all these games I just can't be ****ed playing. What's wrong with me? :(

[Xanafalgue]

So uh, even though I want to love MNC I just can't. The lag makes the game shit. That and I feel like I can't properly enjoy Lara Croft without playing it co-op, so my drive to play it solo is killed there.

And there's all these games I just can't be ****ed playing. What's wrong with me? :(

I know how you feel man, I have so many games and no real desire to play any of them. I usually shift through them ever 15 minutes while I'm having a gaming session because I get bored easily, then just settle for whatever multiplayer game I'm into at the time.

The lag in MNC can be atrocious but I find its not a problem most of the time. Put your mic on next time we play! :mad:

[tau]

I did, and spent about 5 minutes going CAN YOU HEAR ME and then took it off.

[StorminNorman]

Yet I'd not be able leave with Saturn in hand without sacrificing my life huh? :P

Pretty much, yeah.

(My Japanese Saturn is broken and won't read discs so now I need a new one. :( )

[Xanafalgue]

I caved and purchased Magic the Gathering. Bye bye life.

[Manny M]

I think you're referring to Dead Rising 2 because Case Zero is up on the marketplace now! 400MSP! Steal :cool:

I spent some of my weekend with Case Zero and it has me very excited for DR2. Also a very clever way to market the sequel, put out a demo of sorts and get a bit of extra revenue.

Completed it with the best ending, and only have a couple more achievements to go (1000 zombies killed, all combo weapons completed).

Love the idea of combo weapons. Some I don't really 'get', but other simple ones like the nails in the baseball bat are awesome.

Only thing that I found annoying is you can't make chuck run. In a game like this, you'd think it'd be essential.

[Shorty]

Is there some old black dude constantly badgering you on a radio that you can't use while attacking? If not, I would consider buying this game.

[Natrak]

Bacon + Pie. Quick step. Awww yeah. That said, yeah, it's annoying that you're still stuck basically strolling around, at least it's not hard to avoid zombies.

Thoroughly enjoyed Case Zero, it's a bit more substantial than a demo and I'm more than pleased with the game for 400 points.

Combo weapons are awesome, they don't all seem terribly obvious, though (drill + bucket?). Love the IED (nails + propane tank).

[Mr.Mew]

Is there some old black dude constantly badgering you on a radio that you can't use while attacking? If not, I would consider buying this game.

Case Zero still has a black (?) guy telling you where survivors are, but instead of ringing you he just yells at you from a rooftop, all like, "Hey boy! Ova Here! Yee Haw!" but from what I've read, in the main game it's some female (white, young) character which rings you. I'll blindly assume they've fixed being unable to attack, "It's rude of you to hang up while you're being attacked by a zombie,"

[Shorty]

I hope so, because that was one of my main complaints about the original game besides the intense learning curve and the harsh save system.

[Manny M]

Bacon + Pie. Quick step. Awww yeah. That said, yeah, it's annoying that you're still stuck basically strolling around, at least it's not hard to avoid zombies.

Thoroughly enjoyed Case Zero, it's a bit more substantial than a demo and I'm more than pleased with the game for 400 points.

Combo weapons are awesome, they don't all seem terribly obvious, though (drill + bucket?). Love the IED (nails + propane tank).

I didn't get the IED. I made it, threw it... nothing. Thinking about it now, are you meant to shoot it which results in an explosion plus flying nails?

Shorty: Save 'issue' has been fixed. You can save up to 3 different instances.

[Natrak]

Yeah, that's exactly what you're supposed to do. If you have the combo card for it you can even stick it to a zombie with the strong attack, then it's just a matter of firing on it and enjoying the ensuing explosion of PP. :P

[Xanafalgue]

WHY is XBL telling me that it cannot authorise my transaction?! My card is fine, I just used it at the shop and there is a few grand on there so it isn't an issue on my end.

I need ME2 DLC :mad:

[Xanafalgue]

WHY is XBL telling me that it cannot authorise my transaction?! My card is fine, I just used it at the shop and there is a few grand on there so it isn't an issue on my end.

I need ME2 DLC :mad:

Sorted this out last night with the help of GameFAQs (of all places).

If this ever happens to anybody just check that your card/s information on billing.microsoft.com is correct and the same as your card/s profile on xbox.com (my info had decided to edit itself for some reason).

[Creedy]

WOW
Absolutley loved DR2 Case 0, straight to steam I go to pre-order this sucker!

I honestly thought this game was going to be a disaster much like Lost Planet 2 was. But no, DR2 has kept it's core gameplay and haven't tried appealing to the more casual crowd. It was Dead Rising 1 that made me buy an X360, that's how great thought it was, very happy to see the sequel follow suit.

[ElPresidente]

As mentioned in the Hyper preview, I still miss the photography element. :(

[Xanafalgue]

not only has Dead Rising: CASE WEST been announced (with Frank) but Sonic Adventure is on the marketplace! Downloading now, 800MSP is a little steep for what I imagine will be a shocking port.

[aubergine]

After years of people going on and on about how great Psychonauts is I finally downloaded it, took twelve hours, and IT DOESNT WORK. Screen just goes black and xbox shits itself.

[Xanafalgue]

Sonic Adventure is actually in HD! and 60FPS! yet it isn't widescreen. BOOOOOOOO.

Bugs galore, still fun though if you can get past the ****ing awful camera (which seems worse than I remember it). Also instead of the snow-capped mountain backdrop in the Mystic Ruins (near Red Mountain) there is a huge grey blob, haha - oops.

[McChimp]

Bugs galore, still fun though if you can get past the ****ing awful camera (which seems worse than I remember it). Also instead of the snow-capped mountain backdrop in the Mystic Ruins (near Red Mountain) there is a huge grey blob, haha - oops.

Damn it!! Maybe it's some kind of rose-tinted glasses that had me thinking that this was brilliant game back in the day (with no bugs etc.), but maybe it's not all I remember it being. Haven't played the XBLA port, but I got the PC Sonic collection and there was one absolutely game-killing bug, what, a few minutes into the game that stopped me from getting any further. PLZ don't tell me it's THAT BAD a port!! :(

[aubergine]

After years of people going on and on about how great Psychonauts is I finally downloaded it, took twelve hours, and IT DOESNT WORK. Screen just goes black and xbox shits itself.

Seems it might have something to do with an incompatibility with my monitor. I'm certain I tried playing Jade Empire off a disc and it worked fine on this monitor, but I tried Psychonauts off a disc years ago on a different monitor and it did not work (said it required a 60hz compatible screen, or was it 50 hz, whatever.)

Anyway, I tried it on a TV and it actually did start after crapping itself for a few moments. That intro cut scene is the longest thing ever, thought I was playing a Metal Gear game.

[Xanafalgue]

Damn it!! Maybe it's some kind of rose-tinted glasses that had me thinking that this was brilliant game back in the day (with no bugs etc.), but maybe it's not all I remember it being. Haven't played the XBLA port, but I got the PC Sonic collection and there was one absolutely game-killing bug, what, a few minutes into the game that stopped me from getting any further. PLZ don't tell me it's THAT BAD a port!! :(

Sky Deck is almost impossible to play properly because of how bad the camera and glitching is. When the stage tilts SONIC DOESN'T - lol.

I just finished Sonic's "Adventure" and I'm not too impressed. I still really like the level design but the story, writing, acting, cutscene direction and music are all just embarrassing. Awesome for 1998, fail for 2010!

Oh and randomly running on the ceiling toward the camera on Final Egg :rolleyes:

Sega should have released SA and SA2 as a 2-for-1.

[McChimp]

Yeah. Played it. My memories have been shattered by how truly buggy and average Adventure is, ESPECIALLY the crap between levels. So. Very. Weak.
I'm going back to Sonic Advance dammit!

[Xanafalgue]

Hye guise:

1) Is Deathsmiles still on Jpn XBLA?

2) Can I download it or are XBLA games region locked? (I WOULD NOT PUT IT PAST THE ****S)

thanks

[Lex]

You need a US account, but god help you if you didn't set it up properly and want to transfer licenses, like me :(

[KickyFunkFresh]

Deathspank "sequel" is up as an add-on to the original at 1200 points.

[Natrak]

1200 points...damn you EA *bends over*

[KickyFunkFresh]

Apparently its not an add-on after all. I stumbled upon it while browsing through the add-on menu, but its now been added to the Arcade menu.

Think I might leave it for a while and hope for a price drop. Still need to finish the first one anyway.

Blade Kitten and Alien Breed Episode 2 are up as well. Will have a go at the trials later on.

[Xanafalgue]

The Enslaved demo is up on XBL and it is awesome.

[freeradical]

Awsomeness confirmed!!!

[Xanafalgue]

^on the flip side, I downloaded this demo with owls in it and it was crap :(

[freeradical]

Yes, owls do crap (from on high).

[Xanafalgue]

I'm playing through Castlevania:SotN again (first time since August 09 apparently) and I don't know what to do. Do I just keep exploring until something happens?

[Pai Mel]

You're meant to keep playing till you realise you are completely stuck. Then you decide to ring the Hotline for help and they tell you to go to the bottom of the cliff and kneel for 10 seconds, after which you will enter the underworld. There are no clues in the game to indicate you have to do this at all.

[Xanafalgue]

Haha, wow, and I still can't decide whether you're joking or not :P

[Nic Xtreme]

Haha, wow, and I still can't decide whether you're joking or not :P

He is, but he's actually listing something very similar to a part in Castlevania II: Simon's Quest :p

[CrimsonFury]

After years of people going on and on about how great Psychonauts is I finally downloaded it, took twelve hours, and IT DOESNT WORK. Screen just goes black and xbox shits itself.

Yeah its an issue with the Xbox VGA cable not supporting PAL 50Hz. I had the same issue with some Xbox originals back when I was using a VGA cable. IIRC I Managed to get around it by plugging into a TV with RCA, setting to PAL 60 in the dashboard then swapping back to my monitor with VGA cable. Depends if the game supports PAL 60 though.

The problem doesn't occur on HDMI.

[aubergine]

I'm using HDMI-to-DVI.

[Tonez]

Since I moved into my new place with ADSL 2 connection, I'm having issues connecting to Live.

After much mucking around last night, I finally have it connected but my XBOX has warned me that my NAT Type is moderate rather than Open and this could affect communication with other players.

Anyone know how to rectify this? I've enabled UpNp and I think I've correctly forwarded the ports.

Any advice I could try tonight would be awesome.

[Cobla]

Have you tried putting the 360 in a DMZ? Might do the trick.

[freeradical]

With UpNp you shouldnt have to forward any ports. It's one or the other. I had issues with Nat until i switched exclusively to UpNp. Once UpNp was enabled, I had to manually delete all the port forwarding settings that i had in my modem and reboot before it would work. 2 xboxes and a PS3 along with laptops connected through the one modem/router.

[Tonez]

Have you tried putting the 360 in a DMZ? Might do the trick.

Demilitarised zone? :P

What is a DMZ?

With UpNp you shouldnt have to forward any ports. It's one or the other. I had issues with Nat until i switched exclusively to UpNp. Once UpNp was enabled, I had to manually delete all the port forwarding settings that i had in my modem and reboot before it would work. 2 xboxes and a PS3 along with laptops connected through the one modem/router.

I may try this. Pretty sure I had my ports forwarded with UpNp enabled the whole time.

[Cobla]

Yeah, de-militarised zone. Basically it just puts it outside the router firewall.

Anyway I definitely agree with freeradical, you shouldn't need to forward ports if you're using UPnP.

[Xanafalgue]

I've enabled UpNp and I think I've correctly forwarded the ports.

My router just stopped working when I did both, freeradical is right!

Anyone here excited for Costume Quest? :D

http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-costume-quest/17-3303/

[TrinityJayOne]

DMZ will fix it, but will also **** any other console and programs that need ports, like BT, in the process. UPnP with no manual port forwarding should do it, I currently have 4 PCs, multiple phones, 2 360s, 2 PS3s and a Wii running perfectly with it. :P

[TrinityJayOne]

Any of you Sherlocks have any idea when the Hydro Thunder Tempest DLC (http://vectorunit.squarespace.com/news/2010/9/21/hydro-thunder-hurricane-tempest-pack-splashes-down-in-octobe.html) is landing? The extra Expert arsenal will be great but I'm not sure exactly how they plan to make the Novice boats faster. They'd either turn out just as fast but with beginner-friendly handling making them overpowered, or they'd have the easier controls with almost as much speed thus ultimately still being inferior to the proper Expert boats. I guess we'll know soon! :D

[Xanafalgue]

sry ima Watson :(

[TrinityJayOne]

All I can find is that exact article/parts of it posted on various gaming sites. I want a friggen date god dammit!!

As an aside, who apart from Jickle and Stevo play it? I know Bronze is a fan but I need more peoples to race!

[Xanafalgue]

I've looked on a few sites and even the official Xbox forums and no date has been announced. Sorry. Expect it on the 31st October at 11:59pm.

[NiB]

Hurry up new Alan Wake DLC :(

[Xanafalgue]

Hated the Comic Jumper demo :/

[FrozenSoul80]

Sonic 4 is out this Wednesday?

[Clockw0rk]

Yup, and Comic Jumper was out last week. Has anyone other than Larz played it yet?

[Natrak]

Yeah, I've played through it, thought it was very funny for the most part. The gameplay leaves a lot to be desired, however. A bit of a disappointment after how much fun Splosion Man was.

[ElPresidente]

Indeed. Very funny game... fairly derivative gameplay. Not a waste of money but not to the standard of Splosion Man as Natrak pointed out.

[Stevorooni]

Sonic 4 is out this Wednesday?

So Friday for PSN?

I want it on PS3 because the dpad is better for platformers. I guess I can always demo it on 360

[Natrak]

Costume Quest and Super Meat Boy next week. :D

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

So Friday for PSN?

I want it on PS3 because the dpad is better for platformers. I guess I can always demo it on 360

Either way it will still be a sonic game.

[tau]

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

wait

[TrinityJayOne]

Tempest pack or GTFO. If it comes out the same time as the Hot Pursuit demo I will clone myself and buy a second Xbox.

[Watchers]

Comic Jumper is worth it if you liked the sense of humour in Splosion Man. Really funny game. ****ing shithouse gameplay wise, as others have said.

Also looking forward to Costume Quest (Clothing Party lol) and Super Meat Boy... but I might pick up the latter on Steam.

[Lex]

Yeah, I've played through it, thought it was very funny for the most part. The gameplay leaves a lot to be desired, however. A bit of a disappointment after how much fun Splosion Man was.

Dammit. I bought it straight up, because after the maw and splosion man I didn't think they could make an average game. I was really hoping there was some amazing gameplay mechanic I missed from the trailer. I guess not :(

[Watchers]

It's still fun when you don't have to do anything, though.

[Stevorooni]

Either way it will still be a sonic game.

Listen here Evelyn, I'll have you know that Sonic 4 is a return to form for the series and has been reviewing very well.

Will Sonic 4 revive the old Mario versus Sonic debate? Find out next week

[Jickle]

I bought Plants vs. Zombies the other day. That night, I dreamed that if I stopped playing it for even the briefest of moments - or, for that matter, failed a level - I would get cancer and die. Has Popcap been slipping subliminal messages into their games?

[Xanafalgue]

I can't wait for Sonic 4 :D

[Natrak]

I bought Plants vs. Zombies the other day. That night, I dreamed that if I stopped playing it for even the briefest of moments - or, for that matter, failed a level - I would get cancer and die. Has Popcap been slipping subliminal messages into their games?

I wouldn't put anything past them.

[Creedy]

Listen here Evelyn, I'll have you know that Sonic 4 is a return to form for the series and has been reviewing very well.

Will Sonic 4 revive the old Mario versus Sonic debate? Find out next week

No it won't, plays nothing like the original games at all. There are way too many springs and speed boosters, no fun momentum based gameplay at all. This is the I-phone version that my friend bought anyway.

New Super Mario Bros is way beyond Sonic 4 ..... it shouldn't even be called Sonic 4. Maybe Sonic Advance 4 or Sonic Rush 3 would be more fitting.

[Xanafalgue]

Creedy the Bedhog has a better ring to it!

[KickyFunkFresh]

...it shouldn't even be called Sonic 4. Maybe Sonic Advance 4 or Sonic Rush 3 would be more fitting.

Even if that is the case, I hardly see how that is a bad thing.

[Stevorooni]

Sonic Rush 3 without the annoying unnecessary extra characters

[AranchineD]

Even if that is the case, I hardly see how that is a bad thing.

The Rush games were a terrible series of games.

[Stevorooni]

Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II demo is up

The Rush games were a terrible series of games.

You're a terrible series of games. AranchineD 3 was a completely unnecessary sequel!

[Jay]

It's the inevitable move to Aranchine3D that has me worried.

[Jickle]

The Rush games were a terrible series of games.

You know what I'd love to see on XBLA? San Francisco Rush.

[AranchineD]

It's the inevitable move to Aranchine3D that has me worried.

I'll get taken off the market when some girl pokes both her eyes out.

[aubergine]

I see your point.

[VanAce]

I gave the Space Invaders: IG trial a go today. Doesn't seem too bad even though I somehow went from level 2 to level 5.

[adam_91vn]

I want one of these 360 laptops :cool:

http://www.news.com.au/technology/ben-heck-heckendorm-shows-gamers-how-to-build-a-portable-xbox-360/story-e6frfro0-1225937654346

[TrinityJayOne]

Pleeeease be Tempest DLC tonight.

[VanAce]

I want one of these 360 laptops :cool:

http://www.news.com.au/technology/ben-heck-heckendorm-shows-gamers-how-to-build-a-portable-xbox-360/story-e6frfro0-1225937654346

Looks heavy as.

[Xanafalgue]

Finally looks like there will be an announcement regarding the Monday Night Combat patch/free DLC tomorrow. I can't believe it has been in certification at MS for over SIX WEEKS... ****ing ridiculous.

[Xanafalgue]

Pleeeease be Tempest DLC tonight.

27th, isn't it?

Edit: and Crazy Taxi out next month!

[Natrak]

It's a shame it'll be a lazy port. But still, Crazy Taxi is awesome.

[Stevorooni]

When's Sonic 4 meant to be out? I ended up downloading the demo from the US PSN store but I would like to try it on 360 and then maybe buy it because I can't be arsed waiting til Friday for the Aus PSN store to update.

[Natrak]

It should be available sometime tonight, I believe.

[Stevorooni]

Just looked and it's not on the console marketplace but you can get it through xbox.com

Downloading the trial now.

[Jay]

It's up now.

[Stevorooni]

Excellent it's completely playable with the 360 analogue stick. I was afraid it would suck.

Buying it now

EDIT

Final Eggman boss is a ****ing ****. 19 lives and I still can't beat the ****ing fat ugly ****

[Creedy]

You actually bought it?
It's a ****ing terrible excuse of a game. I'd rather buy the original Sonic game 10 times over then buy this new polished piece of shit ...... it's actually not even polished.

[Xanafalgue]

You actually bought it?
It's a ****ing terrible excuse of a game. I'd rather buy the original Sonic game 10 times over then buy this new polished piece of shit ...... it's actually not even polished.

I'm buying it too. In fact I was going to buy it for both BS3 and 360.

So shut up!!! :mad:

[Creedy]

This sums up everything about Sonic 4.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNKyaanp5Ac

****ing attrocious!!!!!!

[Xanafalgue]

This sums up everything about Sonic 4.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNKyaanp5Ac

****ing attrocious!!!!!!

Yeah I went through the "OMG THIS GAME IS A ****ING DISASTER AND I WONT TOUCH IT" phase already.. but it's Sonic, so I'll buy it regardless.

[Creedy]

Which is very sad!
I was really hoping Sonic 4 would turn out to be good.
It really infuriated me that Sonic would uncurl after going off a ramp. The game forces you to use the lockon attack to hit enemies. In the original games you could hold the jump button down down after hitting an enemy to bounce higher. You can't do this anymore!!!!!!!!!

I want my momentum gameplay back thank you Sega!

Sonic Rush is even leagues ahead of this trash.
:'o(

[FrozenSoul80]

Is that really shit minecart level we saw a demo for ages back actually in the game?

[Xanafalgue]

Holy shit, the Monday Night Combat patch/update/free DLC is up!

FINALLY!

[Natrak]

lmao sonicfans

[Xanafalgue]

shut up ho!

[Natrak]

I'm mostly lmaoing at the Sonicfans that are so rabid that they tear any new Sonic game to shreds even if it's a pretty good game. Often for largely stupid reasons, like a physics glitch they themselves haven't encountered, or because Sonic's shoes aren't the right shade of red. It's like they've been so damaged by the largely mediocre-to-terrible games that have been released for the last decade that they just don't know how to cope with a Sonic game that is actually fun.

[Xanafalgue]

http://www.sonic-online.com/sonicpassion/

[AranchineD]

I'm mostly lmaoing at the Sonicfans that are so rabid that they tear any new Sonic game to shreds even if it's a pretty good game. Often for largely stupid reasons, like a physics glitch they themselves haven't encountered, or because Sonic's shoes aren't the right shade of red. It's like they've been so damaged by the largely mediocre-to-terrible games that have been released for the last decade that they just don't know how to cope with a Sonic game that is actually fun.

Still, the music sucks dick.

And there's no redemption after that.

[Xanafalgue]

Gears of War 2 All Fronts Collection is 400MSP for this week only.

Probably pick this up, but I've only tried Gears online twice (literally). Might give it another go with the new maps.

[Stevorooni]

Is that really shit minecart level we saw a demo for ages back actually in the game?

That was the tilting thing? No I think that's just for the iPhone version. There are minecarts but they're just the classic 'jump over gaps for a short period' thing.

There was one stupid area in the Labyrinth zone where you end up in some little pocket of water and you need to rotate the level to push some block out of a gap. I couldn't work out what I was doing wrong, I was tilting it then I'd just randomly die. Eventually I just got through but I don't know why. Weird.

The game is close to what the old ones were (I recently played through them) except you can lock onto enemies, springs and powerups, Sonic's running animation looks stupid and the music sucks.

The rest is pretty much the same, you collect enough rings to enter a special stage only to lose them by some cheap enemy there was no way you could have anticipated, or a bottomless pit that was unavoidable - classic Sonic gameplay!

I like it, there's just annoying bits. Like that loser Eggman who spends his weekends playing robot dressups with small animals which is why no one likes him.

[Creedy]

I'm still amazed at how bad Sonic 4 is, especially with it sitting right next to Comic Jumper. You'd think that Sonic 4 would be gfrom some low income independant company and Comic Jumper was from Sega.
Comic Jumper is so well made and extremely polished, Sonic 4 is just a polished turd that someone vomited on. Sonic 4 is just not fun AT ALL.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Tell us what you really think Creedy!

[Xanafalgue]

Sonic 4...

The physics are absolutely diabolical and take a while to get used to. The way momentum just comes to a halt in the middle of the air is ****ing revolting. This makes Casino Street Zone Act 3 horrible to play.

The game is easy, I had 23 lives by the time I reached Casino Street Zone Act 3 :rolleyes:

Music is obnoxious and a little catchy, but nothing memorable. Rings usually bounce once, as if they encountered zero-gravity mind you, before disappearing which can make the Casino Street Zone boss an arsehole to beat.

Graphics are cheap and charmless, Sonic looks like he is made out of porcelain and the animals you free from the capsual after beating a Robotnik boss look like down syndrome toddlers in costume.

Sonic slides across the ground when walking slowly. Speed will just drop off for no reason. The entire game is reliant on that homing attack shit.

This game is really hard to enjoy. I'm only halfway through, took about 25 minutes.

[AranchineD]

The rest is pretty much the same, you collect enough rings to enter a special stage only to lose them by some cheap enemy there was no way you could have anticipated, or a bottomless pit that was unavoidable - classic Sonic gameplay!

That sounds like classic Sonic Rush gameplay, not classic Sonic.

[Creedy]

Like i said Larz you should not have supported this shit at all.

Original Sonic, Sonic Advance and sonic rush series of games are all much better then this crap.
You should have spent the 1200 points on Comic Jumper.

[AranchineD]

Like i said Larz you should not have supported this shit at all.

Original Sonic, Sonic Advance and sonic rush series of games are all much better then this crap.
Youth should have spent the 1200 points on Comic Jumper.

[Xanafalgue]

Like i said Larz you should not have supported this shit at all.

Original Sonic, Sonic Advance and sonic rush series of games are all much better then this crap.
You should have spent the 1200 points on Comic Jumper.

Didn't like the Comic Jumper demo, I'm afraid.

I am going to do my part and rate Sonic 4 ONE STAR on XBLM :mad:

[Stevorooni]

That sounds like classic Sonic Rush gameplay, not classic Sonic.

Oh it happened in classic Sonic as well, especially Sonic 2 where you're inching along trying not to lose rings before finding a checkpoint thing for the special stage, then suddenly a monkey throws a coconut at you.


The game is easy, I had 23 lives by the time I reached Casino Street Zone Act 3 :rolleyes:


Yeah I think the second act with all those spinning cards keep giving off bonus lives. You'll need them for the final boss anyway.

[NiB]

Gears of War 2 All Fronts Collection is 400MSP for this week only.

Probably pick this up, but I've only tried Gears online twice (literally). Might give it another go with the new maps.

An absolute steal at that price but the matchmaking is so horrible and I don't think a heap of people play it anymore

[Xanafalgue]

Yeah I think the second act with all those spinning cards keep giving off bonus lives. You'll need them for the final boss anyway.

I just rage quit Sonic 4 because of that ****y last boss :D:D:D

I quite like the Labrynth zone (didn't like the resurrection of the you-know-what section) and Mad Gear was alright too. Casino Street is a dud and Splash Hill (?) is just... there.

Having 3 acts makes them a bit long in the tooth though, the minecart sections (that everyone has seen and loved) may as well not be there because it lasts for a whopping 10 seconds all up.

If I had to rate Sonic 4, I'd probably give it a 5/10.

[Natrak]

All Fronts includes the Deleted Scene doesn't it? I'd go for it, even if you just wind up playing the (well, somewhat short) deleted scene.

So Sonic 4's actually pretty average, then? It's not just that Creedy is a raving lunatic? I played the demo, it felt like a good 2D Sonic to me, but then I'm no purist.

[Xanafalgue]

All Fronts includes the Deleted Scene doesn't it? I'd go for it, even if you just wind up playing the (well, somewhat short) deleted scene.


This content pack features all 19 downloadable Gears 2 multiplayer maps and a bonus deleted single-player chapter, "Road to Ruin," from the Gears of War 2 campaign.

For multiplayer fans, this pack brings together the complete set of Gears 2 multiplayer maps: Allfathers Garden, Canals, Courtyard, Flood, Fuel Depot, Fuel Station, Gold Rush, Gridlock, Grind Yard, Highway, Mansion, Memorial, Nowhere, Sanctuary, Subway, Tyro Station, Under Hill, War Machine, and Way Station—everything in the Flashback, Combustible, Snowblind, and Dark Corners downloadable packs combined.

There are no refunds for this item. For more information, see www.xbox.com/live/accounts.

So Sonic 4's actually pretty average, then? It's not just that Creedy is a raving lunatic? I played the demo, it felt like a good 2D Sonic to me, but then I'm no purist.

"Pretty average" is the perfect way to describe it. A lot of Sonic fans will probably end up loving it (like those masochists who think Sonic '06 is a good game :confused: ) and rightly so because it is the closest thing we've had to a "proper" Sonic game in 15 years. KIND of.

You could probably find Sonic Unleashed for the same price and it is a better game!


EDIT: for those of you with Monday Night Combat; the patch is great. Lag is reduced, no more glitching, bullets actually connect properly with the other team and their bots.. great stuff. I think the new map is included too, but I only played one game so I'm not sure.

[KickyFunkFresh]

I'm enjoying Sonic 4 so far, granted I don't have a huge amount of experience with the series (Have all the original games, just never got around to spending much time with any of them).

In terms of gameplay it is a mix of the Sonic of old and the Rush games (the lock on move mainly), but I again don't see that as much of a problem.

It's fast, it's fun, it's pretty much how I hoped and expected the game to be.

My only real gripe is at $20, it really could have done with at least 2 more zones to play.

[Lex]

So Sonic 4's actually pretty average, then? It's not just that Creedy is a raving lunatic? I played the demo, it felt like a good 2D Sonic to me, but then I'm no purist.

As retarded as creedy is, he's often right about games. But hey, dem picky sonic fanboys, right?

[FrozenSoul80]

The whole homing attack thing bothers me. I'm not sure I enjoyed the demo enough to purchase the whole game.

[Natrak]

As retarded as creedy is, he's often right about games. But hey, dem picky sonic fanboys, right?

Right. :cool:

Seriously though, yeah, it seems I was wrong. I honestly have no problem admitting to that.

[Watchers]

Just watched IGN's video review of Sonic 4. First time I've seen anything of the game, and it looks identical (gameplay and level design wise) to the first Sonic on Megadrive. So.... absolutely no new ideas at all Sega? At least Rush had that pretty cool boost meter thing... Pass.

[AranchineD]

At least Rush had that pretty cool boost meter thing

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/307/s08e02youonlymovetwicea.jpg

[Nic Xtreme]

As someone with bad taste in Sonic games, I love Sonic the Hedgehog 4. It's brilliant.

My history includes loving and worshipping Sonic Adventure 2, liking Sonic 1, 2, 3, Sonic & Knuckles, Sonic Heroes and Sonic Adventure, not really liking Sonic Unleashed, the Sonic Rush/Advance series and Sonic 06, and hating Sonic and the Secret Rings.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Your history doesn't help us understand.

[Nic Xtreme]

Your history doesn't help us understand.

Lists > helpful, meaningful content

[Creedy]

Just watched IGN's video review of Sonic 4. First time I've seen anything of the game, and it looks identical (gameplay and level design wise) to the first Sonic on Megadrive. So.... absolutely no new ideas at all Sega? At least Rush had that pretty cool boost meter thing... Pass.

It's nothing like the original Sonic, Sega have a new idea of suck.

[aubergine]

Sonic sucks and always sucked. If he didn't, we'd be playing humble Mario downloads on the Sega DreamWiiver 64. The only gaming character worse than Sonic is every other character in his games, and Waluigi. I'll give him Waluigi.

[Xanafalgue]

Sonic sucks and always sucked.

LIES :mad:

[9warbane]

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

[Stevorooni]

Finally beat the fat bastard. Now to get all the chaos emeralds

[Xanafalgue]

Finally beat the fat bastard. Now to get all the chaos emeralds

How many hits does it take after he has a spaz-out? I keep dying there.

[Xanafalgue]

truth hurts, doesn't it?

... I'M GOING HOME :mad:

[Stevorooni]

How many hits does it take after he has a spaz-out? I keep dying there.

About a million more

After he starts sparkling with electricity keep avoiding him, eventually when he starts shooting his fists at you, when they float back down wait for them to hit the ground then quickly target-attack the fist 3 times, it will knock them back into Eggman and stun him, then you can hit him.

Eventually he'll start shooting lasers at you, avoid those and repeat the previous tactics. Once he cracks the shits and smashes the ground up hit him once more and it's done!

[9warbane]

How many hits does it take after he has a spaz-out? I keep dying there.
About a million more

Reminds me of this:
http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz89/9warbane/1286867651754.jpg

[Xanafalgue]

Great, I'll give it a go tomorrow. Thanks.

Reminds me of this:

lol :p

[KickyFunkFresh]

It's nothing like the original Sonic, Sega have a new idea of suck.

I dunno, there are some similarities, namely, it has a blue hedgehog named Sonic as the lead character :p

Honestly, no wonder Sega make crappy Sonic games. No matter what they do to appease the fanboys, the fanboys are always gonna hate on it. OH NO HE IS THE WRONG SHADE OF BLUE! HE IS FIVE PIXELS TALLER THAN I WANTED HIM TO BE! THE GAME SHOULD ONLY BE 29 MEGABYTES IN SIZE, NOT CLOSE TO 200! I DON'T LIKE THAT COLOUR, MAKE IT A DIFFERENT ONE! Etc.

It is a Sonic game. It doesn't have the fluff that people hated about previous games. Sega gave people what they wanted and added stuff to make the game flow better and be less frustrating.

I, personally, am thankful for it, because I honestly don't have time these days to spend 5 minutes just trying to get Sonic to jump up on to aledge just because they put platform segments into a game that is designed not to have those platform segments.

Sega should just make a sonic game without enemies, platforms or anything else. Just Sonic running from left to right as fast as he can. Maybe then the fanboys might be happy with it.

[Stevorooni]

3 Chaos Emeralds down.

I wonder if they'll bring back Tails for Episode 2, then allow you to use him to play through Episode 1.

Would be nice for some oldschool 2 player fun, but they should stop it at Tails. I don't want the 14 million other supporting characters appearing in this game.

[AranchineD]

I dunno, there are some similarities, namely, it has a blue hedgehog named Sonic as the lead character :p

Honestly, no wonder Sega make crappy Sonic games. No matter what they do to appease the fanboys, the fanboys are always gonna hate on it. OH NO HE IS THE WRONG SHADE OF BLUE! HE IS FIVE PIXELS TALLER THAN I WANTED HIM TO BE! THE GAME SHOULD ONLY BE 29 MEGABYTES IN SIZE, NOT CLOSE TO 200! I DON'T LIKE THAT COLOUR, MAKE IT A DIFFERENT ONE! Etc.

Honestly, no wonder Sega make crappy Sonic games. Anyone who raises legitimate criticisms of the game gets hated on my antifanboy-fanboys. OH NO I'M COMPARING YOUR TALKING ABOUT THE POOR MUSIC TO TRIVIAL COMPLAINTS TO UNDERMINE YOUR ARGUMENT!

[aubergine]

I just wish Sega still made hardware, so Sonic discussion could be in a different part of the forum.

[Xanafalgue]

I just wish Sega still made hardware, so Sonic discussion could be in a different part of the forum.

What don't you like about Sonic games? I think Sonic Unleashed is a pretty good game, "Werehog" and all. I still love giving the classic games a quick run when I can.

Can someone please rename this thread Xbox Live Marketplace - Sonic Discussion & Releases.

[Xanafalgue]

Finished the game, got the speed run achievement. While doing the speed run, it dawned on me that when Sonic 4 is doing as intended, it works well and is fun to play. Still can't stand Casino Street Zone.

[Creedy]

Fan games made for free play better than Sonic 4, somehow the damp manage to get the momentum based game play right while Sega utterly fail.

[Lex]

Honestly, no wonder Sega make crappy Sonic games. Anyone who raises legitimate criticisms of the game gets hated on my antifanboy-fanboys. OH NO I'M COMPARING YOUR TALKING ABOUT THE POOR MUSIC TO TRIVIAL COMPLAINTS TO UNDERMINE YOUR ARGUMENT!

This. Sure, sonic/sega fanboys are gimps, but that doesn't stop this from being a subpar sonic game. If you like it because you don't know any better, fine, but don't shit on people who do.

[Watchers]

Also, I hope Creedy is just trolling because surely no-one can be this stupid at arguing. Not even Creedy.