The AFL Thread

[NiB]

Anyone who watched the GF replay knows Sam Gilbert and straight don't go together

[Knuckle Children]

Fev just doesn't do himself any favours (http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/brendan-fevola-in-custody-after-being-arrested-in-fortitude-valley-after-nye-celebrations/story-e6freon6-1225979882570)

AFL footballer and Brisbane Lions player Brendan Fevola has been arrested in Brisbane during New Years Eve celebrations.

Police confirmed that a 29-year-old Norman Park man was arrested at 4.30am in Brunswick Street, Fortitude Valley.

He has been charged with public nuisance and obstructing police.

It is alleged that when police approached him he became aggressive and refused to cooperate with their orders.

At 7.30am he was still in custody but is expected to be bailed this morning to appear in court on January 18.

[Gunblade89]

And just when he get let off the charges from the club exposure thing. I don't know how many more times he can screw up?

[Spazzallo]

****'s sake. At least I've organised to go to Europe in September this year to drown the pain of what's going to be another horrible year.

[Knuckle Children]

After that smother, and a lacklustre GF performance, Nick Riewoldt needed a break.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/Danos1977/1b774ec5.jpg

'How can I unwind?', Nick thought.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/Danos1977/97b3b5c4.jpg

Karate?
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/Danos1977/74a015a2.jpg

Join a Thriller dance troupe?
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/Danos1977/e433cc1e.jpg

Extreme sports?
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/Danos1977/0e8518d4.jpg

Watersliding?
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/Danos1977/d1e32b38.jpg

Nope, the pain still lingers. Sucks to be Nick :(. Maybe this year... lol.
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs444.snc4/50278_325573163180_7656973_n.jpg


(Thanks for the pics, Dave).

[Gunblade89]

So the NAB cup starts in a couple of weeks. These new rules are going to be interesting.

From what i understand, basically three teams will play eachother within the timespan of an ordinary game.

[TAT]

lol wat

[grimace06]

lol wat

Yep - 3 teams play each other on one night with games consisting of two twenty minute halves.

[Queenie]

that sounds absolutely retarded

[Gunblade89]

It does abit doesn't it, it's going to take some getting used to.

[ireadtabloids]

After that smother, and a lacklustre GF performance, Nick Riewoldt needed a break.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/Danos1977/1b774ec5.jpg

'How can I unwind?', Nick thought.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/Danos1977/97b3b5c4.jpg

Karate?
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/Danos1977/74a015a2.jpg

Join a Thriller dance troupe?
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/Danos1977/e433cc1e.jpg

Extreme sports?
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/Danos1977/0e8518d4.jpg

Watersliding?
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/Danos1977/d1e32b38.jpg

Nope, the pain still lingers. Sucks to be Nick :(. Maybe this year... lol.
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs444.snc4/50278_325573163180_7656973_n.jpg


(Thanks for the pics, Dave).


That was awesome. Thanks Knuckle!


Btw has Hyper got a Dream Team league going yet?

[IRS]

That was awesome. Thanks Knuckle!


Btw has Hyper got a Dream Team league going yet?

http://www.hyper.com.au/forums/showthread.php?p=1271484#post1271484

[ireadtabloids]

Thanks.

So are there any Carlton supporters here?
Looking at some of their players during the NAB Cup I was really impressed by how they closed out games. Even with the young side it looks like the team has really bulked up and are finally going to be a chance of winning a final.

[Gunblade89]

Anyone else think the ''last touch'' rule they are trialling is bullshit?
I'd hate if they implemented it into the proper seasons.

[Lazlow]

From what I've read, it was only for this weekend's games, and it sounds like no one wants to see it back, ever.

Also; it may be an abortion of a game, but hey, at least West Coast is winning something :D

[StorminNorman]

"Last touch" is still a better rule than the current interchange bench cluster****.

Hawthorn should have easily flogged West Coast and Fremantle, but awful kicking let us down at the end of the WCE game. Still, we've got a decent enough percentage, so hopefully that'll get us through.

[grimace06]

Hawthorn should have easily flogged West Coast and Fremantle,

:rolleyes: Who cares about these matches?

[Lazlow]

:rolleyes: Who cares about these matches?

The catch cry of the loser :D

[grimace06]

The catch cry of the loser :D

I'd rather my team play matches in the countryside under normal rules rather than this trash. Where gameplans, positions and personnel can all be properly managed.

[Lazlow]

The catch cry of the loser :D

[grimace06]

The catch cry of the loser :D

Requiem for the wooden spooner :p

[Cerebral]

Thanks.

So are there any Carlton supporters here?
Looking at some of their players during the NAB Cup I was really impressed by how they closed out games. Even with the young side it looks like the team has really bulked up and are finally going to be a chance of winning a final.

Watson and Duigan look really promising, just not sure how they're all going to fit into the backline with Laidler joining the Blues and Yarran now being played (quite effectively) off half back.

[Super Sleuth]

It's so boring to watch. Wat happen?

[StorminNorman]

Just saw Essendon demolish Brisbane. Not sure if the Lions are a really terrible team, or if the Hird/Thompson combo is going to bring the magic to Essendon.

Either way, if they play like this for the season, they'll be a real threat to the top teams.

[nonch]

Just saw Essendon demolish a really terrible team.

Fixed.

[Gunblade89]

Yeah Brisbane did have a young and unexperienced side out there, still Bombers did look impressive at times.

Kangaroos play on sunday, hopefully they win so they will be on tv the week after :P

[nonch]

Roos will be doing well to win one match in their group. Shits me that it's not on tv (Cats fan) - would head down and watch, but being four hours from Geelong means I wouldn't be home til 11pm at the earliest, with a 7am start Monday:(

[Jay]

One of the great ****s in AFL football. Here's hoping this finally brings him down.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/girl-at-centre-of-st-kilda-photo-scandal-alleges-affair-with-nixon-20110218-1azv3.html

[nonch]

Haven't got the link, but story in Herald Sun has Nixon confirming it is true. They are obviously as ****ed up as each other...

[nonch]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/ricky-nixons-shame-over-afl-nude-photo-scandal-girl/story-e6frf7kx-1226008415249

There it is.

[Jay]

Oh yes, the girl has some serious, psychological issues. Nixon, however, has long been a ****, and it is well known in football circles what a **** he is. Word is he has gone as far as to score drugs for players on his books in the past.

[nonch]

Yeah well I think he is fairly well screwed now - a 17yo girl at least has some kind of excuse for her actions, a 47yo man should know better. You'd think his clients will start jumping ship pretty quickly.

[Jay]

Yeah, you'd like to think so, but I'm sure they'll find a way to make it her fault - there's already talk of her stealing his credit cards haha.

Anyway, did you see the footy tonight? Spazz will be having a spazz about Brisbane, and Essendon looked okay (though loose at the back, and that's where it will hurt them when the real stuff starts). St Kilda just looked a bit sloppy but they'll be alright. Which is a shame because I hate them.

[nonch]

Yeah Essendon did look pretty impressive, but they've been playing that attacking game for a few years now and the leaky back half has been their weakness. Really don't want to see them do well, as their fans have been so smug about the whole Bomber issue. Saints won't show their true colours til the real stuff starts, and Brisbane are just screwed, which doesn't bother me a bit. Used to like them, but after the way Vossy treated Bradshaw I relish seeing him fail.

[Cerebral]

Damn that chick gets around.

[Jay]

She's quite something in that regard, that's for sure.

[Kotche]

If you were an ugly old 47 year old you'd be happy to nail that 17 year old skank.

just sayin'...

[nonch]

Given the circumstances, I think I'd be able to restrain myself.

[Knuckle Children]

Just to err on the side of caution, you'd probably want to ease one out before making contact with Kimmy.

The Bombers looked quite good tonight, relatively speaking. Glad the Saints made it through too, I really, really hope we play them next round.

It should be interesting seeing the Suns play tomorrow. I might head across the road to the sports bar to check out big Josh Fraser tear the Swans and Giants a new a-hole :D

[grimace06]

Form in this competition means nothing people.

[Knuckle Children]

Winning by 10 goals is always better than getting flogged by 10 goals.

[[m]averick]

Roos will be doing well to win one match in their group. Shits me that it's not on tv (Cats fan) - would head down and watch, but being four hours from Geelong means I wouldn't be home til 11pm at the earliest, with a 7am start Monday:(


It is on TV?

[nonch]

On Foxtel I think, but I don't have that.

[[m]averick]

Good.

Channel 7 are horrible. Hate their Sunday telecasts. 3 hours for a 2 hour game. :rolleyes:

You should get Foxtel. I think it's about 55-60 dollars for basic + sports. $2 a day is pretty good value, especially when North is always on Fox.

[nonch]

Yeah it's really not worth it just for footy though, which is practically all I would watch it for. And I'm not the North supporter...

[Gunblade89]

averick;1274785']Good.

Channel 7 are horrible. Hate their Sunday telecasts. 3 hours for a 2 hour game. :rolleyes:

You should get Foxtel. I think it's about 55-60 dollars for basic + sports. $2 a day is pretty good value, especially when North is always on Fox.

Yeah channel 7 never seems to show Roo's games, they would prefer to show Magpies every week.

I usually watch the games over the internet the next day.

[[m]averick]

Yeah it's really not worth it just for footy though, which is practically all I would watch it for. And I'm not the North supporter...


No, I am.

[Gunblade89]

GWS only managed 4 points in their game against Sydney, and to think they will be a main team in 12 months.

[nonch]

They will develop quite a bit playing VFL over the next 12 months, add to that draft picks and marquee players they will pick up and I don't think they'd be too worried.

[NiB]

Gold coast beats Sydney...me thinks they are tanking the nab cup yet again

[Jay]

Haha GWS are currently beating GC in the game of Demetriou's love-children.

[nonch]

They developed more quickly than I had predicted...

[StorminNorman]

Yeah, GWS redeemed themselves somewhat against Gold Coast.

Gold Coast were really impressive. They took it right up to the experienced Sydney side, and showed that they are definitely ready for the big time.

[Lazlow]

Did Hunt or Folau run on?

[nonch]

Hunt played, but Falou didn't.

[Cerebral]

Hunt played pretty well, actually. Suns/Swans game was awesome to watch.

[dimorphic]

GWS will fail. You heard it here first. From everything I've heard AFL has actually lost ground in Sydney with the publicity stunt of signing Folau.

[grimace06]

GWS will fail. You heard it here first. From everything I've heard AFL has actually lost ground in Sydney with the publicity stunt of signing Folau.

Come back here in 5 years when both sides are mauling the comp.

[StorminNorman]

Hunt played pretty well, actually. Suns/Swans game was awesome to watch.

He's going to make an excellent defender if he keeps playing like he did last night.

I honestly don't think we've seen the last of players jumping from Rugby to AFL. If Hunt and Folau do well, other players are going to start seeing the dollar signs and also jump ship.

[nonch]

Yeah I don't know about that. I absolutely despise all the concessions they've been given, and what it is doing to other clubs, but the fact their inflated salary caps only last a few years should mean that things will even out to some degree and both sides will lose a certain amount of the talent they have been able to secure. I certainly hope we don't see either club winning a flag within the next 5-7 years, because they won't have had to work for it if that's the case.

[texta]

GWS only managed 4 points in their game against Sydney, and to think they will be a main team in 12 months.
Yeah. They are certainly a level below quality teams like Brisbane and Richmond. <_<

[Knuckle Children]

Yeah I don't know about that. I absolutely despise all the concessions they've been given, and what it is doing to other clubs, but the fact their inflated salary caps only last a few years should mean that things will even out to some degree and both sides will lose a certain amount of the talent they have been able to secure. I certainly hope we don't see either club winning a flag within the next 5-7 years, because they won't have had to work for it if that's the case.

Odds are that one or both of them will though, or at least come very close. West Coast, Adelaide and the Brissy Lions all had 2 flags within 7 years of their inception, Port Adelaide had one. They are both going to have scarily strong squads.

[Jay]

Brisbane took 14 years, unless you are suggesting that the amalgamation with Fitzroy marks the date of their 'inception', in which case I can't wait until Spazz reads your post.

[grimace06]

The SA and WA (and Brisbane) sides got chump change in comparison to the GC/GWS in terms of draft picks. Port were fortunate to hide Brendan Lade, Michael Wilson, Peter Burgoyne, Stewart Dew and Warren Tredrea from other AFL clubs.

But pretty much all of them were competitive and have achieved success - we have two juggernauts brewing here.

[Knuckle Children]

Brisbane took 14 years, unless you are suggesting that the amalgamation with Fitzroy marks the date of their 'inception', in which case I can't wait until Spazz reads your post.

I deliberately said Brissy Lions in my post. Est.1996.

[Jay]

It's a very long bow to draw.

Cats have knocked off the Roos in a pretty scrappy game.

[nonch]

The difference with teams like West Coast, Adelaide and Port was that they entered with sides that represented already powerful leagues, so it wasn't difficult for the clubs to form a winning culture - it was already established. They also didn't need to pay their players exorbitant amounts to lure or keep them, because players wanted to play there. You can't talk about Brisbane Lions without including the Bears' history, and the Bears were the club that these two new ones have the most in common with. I just think once the young players develop into stars but are unable to be paid what they would at other clubs because of the marquee contracts, quite a few will walk. Unless Demetriou steps in and offers further concessions, which he no doubt will...

[nonch]

Big second half for Geelong against WB to win comfortably. Didn't see the game unfortunately. Were you watching it Jay - any thoughts? What's the go next week - is it full length games? And who are we playing?

[Gunblade89]

I heard the Roo's were pretty ordinary today :(
I suppose it's only the NAB cup and hopefully by round 1 they will be ready to go.

[Jay]

Big second half for Geelong against WB to win comfortably. Didn't see the game unfortunately. Were you watching it Jay - any thoughts? What's the go next week - is it full length games? And who are we playing?

Didn't see it - followed the commentary on the web. Happy to get some game time into a few of the younger kids, and from the looks of it Stevie J is looking sharp. Good to see Otto on the park this early in the season too. Not sure about next week.

[Knuckle Children]

I heard the Roo's were pretty ordinary today :(
I suppose it's only the NAB cup and hopefully by round 1 they will be ready to go.

Just remember that Carlton won a pre-season cup in recent years, then finished bottom in the season proper. Enjoy the NAB cup for what it is: ****ing good to have footy back, and not much more.

If North can play a final, see development and progression in their promising youngsters, and get Petrie and Ziebell through the season unscathed, 2011 will have been a good year.

[nonch]

People always mention that, but more often than not the preseason grand finalists go onto regular season success. Geelong won in 06, then won the flag in 07. They won both flags in 09. St Kilda won preseason in 08, made the 09 and 10 grand finals, and WB won last year before playing in a semi final. So the form line goes a bit deeper than "Well Carlton won the Cup and then got the wooden spoon..."

[Knuckle Children]

Sydney, West Coast and Collingwood were all knocked out in the first round of the pre-season cup in 2005, 2006 and 2010 respectively, too. It may give a hint of insight into the season ahead, but the pre-season comp is largely just entertainment. I mean, some teams are missing more than half of their best 22.

I still love it though, it's footy.

[Jay]

Well, it's kinda like footy. So much ****ing around with it, who knows quite what it is.

[Gunblade89]

Yeah i'm glad the 2x 20 minute halves and last touch rule will be over now atleast, but bring on round 1 :p

So the Lions have finally sacked Fevola, it's like he wasn't taking his football seriously up there anyway...
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/108129/default.aspx

[TAT]

So Fev: biggest fall from grace since Carey?

[NiB]

So Fev: biggest fall from grace since Carey?

Ben Cousins might have something to say about that

[nonch]

Yeah and I don't know if you can really call it a "fall from grace" for Fev - it was just something that was always going to happen.

[texta]

People always mention that, but more often than not the preseason grand finalists go onto regular season success. Geelong won in 06, then won the flag in 07. They won both flags in 09. St Kilda won preseason in 08, made the 09 and 10 grand finals, and WB won last year before playing in a semi final. So the form line goes a bit deeper than "Well Carlton won the Cup and then got the wooden spoon..."

Yeah exactly. I think in the last twenty years there's only a few instances where the teams that were in the night grand final didn't play in a regular gf within three years.

2010 Premier: Collingwood - Night final in 2009, Runner up: St Kilda - Night final in 2010
2009 Premier: Geelong - Night premier in 2009, Runner up: St Kilda - Night Premier in 2008
2008 Premier: Hawthorn, Runner up: Geelong - Night premier in 2006
2007 Premier: Geelong - Night Premier in 2006, Runner up: Port Adelaide - Night premier in 2002
2006 Premier: West Coast - Night final in 2005, Runner up: Sydney
2005 Premier: Sydney, Runner up: West Coast - night final in 2005
2004 Premier: Port Adelaide - Night premier in 2002, Runner up: Brisbane - Night final in 2001
2003 Premier: Brisbane - Night final in 2001, Runner up: Collingwood - Night final in 2003
2002 Premier: Brisbane - Night final in 2001, Runner up: Collingwood
2001 Premier: Brisbane - Night final in 2001, Runner up: Essendon - Night premier in 2000
2000 Premier: Essendon - Night premier in 2000, Runner up Melbourne
1999 Premier: North Melbourne - Night Premier 1998, Runner up: Carlton - night premier in 1997
1998 Premier: Adelaide - Night final in 1995, Runner up: Melbourne
1997 Premier: Adelaide - Night final in 1995, Runner up: St Kilda - Night Premier in 1996
1996 Premier: North Melbourne - Night premiers in 1995, Runners up: Sydney

etc

Interesting statistics: Since 1990 only Richmond and the Western Bulldogs have played in a night final and not made a regular gf.
And in that same time period, Richmond, the Bulldogs, St Kilda and Fitzroy are the only three teams to have made a night grand final but not won a regular season premiership.

[nonch]

Thanks for the back up Texta:D

[nonch]

Was it just me or did last night's game seem like a bit of a message from fans that they are sick of the AFL constantly trying to change the game in the preseason comp?
Only 9600 people turned up to a match at Etihad between two of the biggest drawing sides of the past 5 years.
Glad I wasn't one of them in the end - Geelong pretty much just showed up to get its name ticked off.
Cats had 11 first choice players out and played like it, whereas Saints were full strength (Baker and Kosi missing, but I don't think they really count), and the result was very predictable.
A few mildly promising signs from the Cats, but please don't ever let me see Steve Johnson running everywhere except the forward line ever again...

[Gunblade89]

Yeah the crowd was pretty small, with good reason it was a boring game to be honest. Can't wait for the real season so we have some passion from the players.

[[m]averick]

St Kilda school girl on 60 minutes tonight.

[nonch]

Well ummmm...

that was ummmm...

fascinating.

[TAT]

pics!

[Lazlow]

Saw it when flipping through channels. I guess they've given up trying to keep her identity a secret, seeing as the dumb bitch keeps putting her name and face all over the internet.

[Big Scib Man]

averick;1277378']St Kilda school girl on 60 minutes tonight.I can't wait for the official Ricky Nixon interview.

[[m]averick]

Saw it when flipping through channels. I guess they've given up trying to keep her identity a secret, seeing as the dumb bitch keeps putting her name and face all over the internet.


I really dont know what the legality is regarding mentioning her name because the Herald Sun had her face blurred and didnt mention her name today. But that could be their lame attempt at trying to claim some sort of moral high ground.

[Knuckle Children]

averick;1277450']I really dont know what the legality is regarding mentioning her name because the Herald Sun had her face blurred and didnt mention her name today. But that could be their lame attempt at trying to claim some sort of moral high ground.

The Nine executive producer, Hamish Thomson, mentioned today that the suppression order preventing the release of her name was lifted on January 26.

[Knuckle Children]

Ricky's off to rehab (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/st-kilda-schoolgirl-says-ricky-nixon-told-her-to-lie-over-sex-scandal/story-e6frf7jo-1226016991612)

Coke's all good fun and games, until you get filmed and shamed by an underage chick, with a screw loose, that you're banging.

[TAT]

So what kind of addict is Fev?

A gambling addict? (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8222320/addict-fevola-caught-gambling)

[nonch]

I find this one very odd, as he surely would have known that being seen in Crown would make headlines.
He could play internet poker or gamble in any other manner in the privacy of his own home.
Makes you wonder what the **** his problem really is...

[Kotche]

He's on the footy show tonight, free advertising

[Spazzallo]

****ing Fev. I hope Carlton take you back, you belong within their shit culture.

[Knuckle Children]

Anything of note come out of his interview? I cbf watching The Footy Show any more.

[Gunblade89]

Fev seemed pretty much messed up, and spoke about how he harmed himself.

[Cerebral]

****ing Fev. I hope Carlton take you back, you belong within their shit culture.

May as well pick up Albert Proud while we're at it.

[Spazzallo]

It's been a horrible off-season :( thank God we beat Melbourne's reserve team last week.

[grimace06]

Screw you Channel 10. 1 hour 20 minute delay in Adelaide for the first game of the season.

Absolute joke.

[nonch]

We got it live here, so I don't think it's 10's fault. Must be Adelaide's.

[Big Scib Man]

Perth got dogged too... hasn't even started yet.

[Cerebral]

Pretty happy with the win, considering most of our defense were either rookies or don't fit in our best 22. Got a bit worried when they started to win contested footy in the third quarter and Riewoldt would just smash either White or Thornton.

[Gunblade89]

Heartbreaking stuff for the Tigers, would of been nice to see them get a win.

[NiB]

Curnow !!!

118 SC pts $$$

[Cerebral]

****ing can't believe Curnow pulled that out on his debut.

[nonch]

I had him in my side until 15min before lockout when I swapped him for Liberatore:mad:

[grimace06]

Port may have lost by 12 goals today but I think the scoreboard exagerrated things a bit, we competitive for large amounts of the game we just lacked some discipline and a bit of fight from our senior players. Collingwood are a quality side and were always going to win.

Jason Dunstall is still one of the biggest morons you'll ever hear commentating however.

[nonch]

Yeah Dunstall's commentary was pretty grating, but given ch7 has Leigh Matthews and ch10 has Malcolm Blight it seems like every station needs at least one terrible caller.

[Spazzallo]

Port may have lost by 12 goals today but I think the scoreboard exagerrated things a bit, we competitive for large amounts of the game we just lacked some discipline and a bit of fight from our senior players. Collingwood are a quality side and were always going to win.

Jason Dunstall is still one of the biggest morons you'll ever hear commentating however.

Matthew Campbell. It does not get worse. Though Dunstall has earned the nickname Captain Obvious in this household.

[nonch]

Are you devastated spaz? Great finish to the game - just switched over after Adelaide v Hawthorn finished. Didn't think the Lions would get so close.

Interesting to see if the AFL acts on Clark coming back on the ground after clearly being concussed.

[Spazzallo]

3 wins in 19 games... to get so close and then be pipped by some awful decisions at the end :(. We had nobody left, and the guys gave it their all. Just so shattering being so close. A close win would've done so much after the 11 months we've had.

[Lazlow]

Brown gone for 8 weeks, things get better for Brisbane.

[Kotche]

what a big girls blouse

[grimace06]

Brown gone for 8 weeks, things get better for Brisbane.

Don't worry Daniel Bradshaw will step up he's a quality forward and play for the club in Brown's absence.




Oh.

[Lazlow]

Brisbane to "extend an olive branch" to Fev?

[Spazzallo]

Daniel Bradshaw is one thing I'm not angry about, he wanted 3 years but has only managed 8 games with 2 remaining. Whilst Fev certainly wasn't better at least we've cleared out another piece of dead wood.

With Black & Power being our only two senior players the next couple of months, it'll be good to see Rocky, Redden, Rich, Banfield and Beams develop further.

[nonch]

They'd better make it an olive tree.

[grimace06]

Daniel Bradshaw is one thing I'm not angry about, he wanted 3 years but has only managed 8 games with 2 remaining. Whilst Fev certainly wasn't better at least we've cleared out another piece of dead wood.

With Black & Power being our only two senior players the next couple of months, it'll be good to see Rocky, Redden, Rich, Banfield and Beams develop further.

...and have nobody to kick to.

[Spazzallo]

As a Port supporter should you really be paying out on other teams right now? :P

[grimace06]

As a Port supporter should you really be paying out on other teams right now? :P

Round 1 does not make a season.

My point was some very poor list management has left you in a pickle.

[Gunblade89]

Roos vs. Magpies this weekend, very tough game would love to see a win.
Imagine what it could do for the clubs reputation and membership, would be exactly what the club needs at the moment.

[grimace06]

Port vs Norwood as the curtainraiser for the Port vs West Coast match.

Pumped.

[nonch]

Roos vs. Magpies this weekend, very tough game would love to see a win.
Imagine what it could do for the clubs reputation and membership, would be exactly what the club needs at the moment.

Fair enough to dream, but it's not gonna happen.

[NiB]

Roos vs. Magpies this weekend, very tough game would love to see a win.
Imagine what it could do for the clubs reputation and membership, would be exactly what the club needs at the moment.

If North doesn't get a sellout to that game then all of their fans bitching and moaning about away strips and selling games interstate then they'll never be taken seriously again

[Knuckle Children]

No doubt, a North win would do a lot more than a 10 goal flogging in regards to external perception of the club, considering their propensity to get hammered by top four sides; I doubt it would do much for membership though.

[dimorphic]

If the Suns win I stand to earn a nice chunk of change.

[[m]averick]

Just watched the drawn grand final in 3D with Triple M commentary. Was very nice, Goddard's mark even better than I remembered.

[grimace06]

A draw you say Maverick?

[NiB]

First time in 100 years draws in round 1 and 2, great game

[JC Henderson]

First time in 100 years draws in round 1 and 2, great game

It was a great game unless you are a disgruntled Saints supporter like myself. My TV screen has never been so endangered.

[nonch]

Or if you happened to be a Richmond supporter. I was neutral, but two umpiring decisions robbed Tigers.
Morton took a clear mark right in front of goal that wasn't paid, and the handpass through for a behind that resulted in a free kick and goal to Riewoldt was a disgrace.
That umpire should be sacked according to every interpretation of the rushed behind rule we have been told.

[Gunblade89]

Yeah that was crap, if that wasn't ''under pressure'' i don't know what is....

[JC Henderson]

Yeah that was crap, if that wasn't ''under pressure'' i don't know what is....

Really? If that was a metre to the left it was the most obvious intentional ever. I think that deserves to be punished he knew he was under the pump and was going to get done holding the ball. What I thought was more stupid was some of the holding the ball calls. I think umpires themselves should be put i the bottom of the pack and see how well they get the ball out.

[nonch]

But it's not about whether it is intentionally rushed or not - it is about whether they are under pressure when they do it.
Add to that the fact that Riewoldt got the free kick when he wasn't even the one tackling McGuane...

[JC Henderson]

Really? If that was a metre to the left it was the most obvious intentional ever. I think that deserves to be punished he knew he was under the pump and was going to get done holding the ball. What I thought was more stupid was some of the holding the ball calls. I think umpires themselves should be put i the bottom of the pack and see how well they get the ball out.

Let me put it this way if there was a minute to go and they are six points in front would you endorse a person to kick to themselves wait until an opposition player to run at them then handball it through and rinse and repeat?

[nonch]

That's a situation where a player has had prior opportunity.
McGuane (from memory) was tackled basically as soon as he picked up the ball.

[texta]

Or if you happened to be a Richmond supporter.This. It was devastating.

I was neutral, but two umpiring decisions robbed Tigers.Not this. It's ****ing weak to blame the umpires.

[VanAce]

Looks like Lenny Hayes is out for the rest of the season :(

[Spazzallo]

To think Brennan wanted 600k+ for the crap he's producing tonight.

[Gunblade89]

I'm glad i was working today and didn't watch the Roo's game, how dissapointing :( i didn't expect a win but i thought they would have been more competitive.

[Cerebral]

I think Hunt made the wrong code switch. Anyone who looks that far out of their depth matched against Bret Thornton probably shouldn't be playing AFL.

[NiB]

Gold Coast weren't even competitive.

And I could swear Brennan was a right foot kick, what's up with all his pissy left foot kicking trying to be precise. He should leave that shit to the Maestro Sam Mitchell

[IRS]

Brennan played like an abortion

[nonch]

Really? If that was a metre to the left it was the most obvious intentional ever. I think that deserves to be punished he knew he was under the pump and was going to get done holding the ball.

Just on that one the umpire admitted he made a mistake.

[JC Henderson]

Just on that one the umpire admitted he made a mistake.

Thats cool, I still think though that what he did as a player is not within the spirit of the game and it would not suprise me that this feeling in the moment is what the umpire blew his whistle on.

[Super Sleuth]

mate, players under pressure have been rushing the ball through for a point since day 1. The rule was designed so players couldn't just walk it across so the team could set up a kick out play. ****ing hell.

[Super Sleuth]

within the spirit. ffs.

[NiB]

For a half there I was ready to ring SEN and let the Hawthorn FC have it...luckily natural order was restored in the 3rd quarter

[JC Henderson]

within the spirit. ffs.

Seemed to have hit a nerve with you. What is your actual issue with the spirit of the game here? Under pressure he was but any where else on the field you would never see a player just give up and handball the ball out because someone was on his arse.

[Lazlow]

Lolwut? They force over the all the time, that's why they made rules against it.

[JC Henderson]

Lolwut? They force over the all the time, that's why they made rules against it.

Exactly they did and would that not be given a free kick anywhere else on the field for intentional? If what happened on Friday night happened 20 metres around in the forward pocket no one would have said anything about a free being given.

For me he purposely put the ball through for a behind because in the context on the game it was better for his team. Under the current law he should not have given away a free but for me I would like to see more incentive for players not to go that option.

I will bring up the scenario I mentioned before again. Richmond in front by 5 with a minute to go and a legitamate behind is scored against them. Person with kick in duties waits as long as possible before kicking in then kicks to himself and walks back just outside goal line until opposition runs at him and puts him under "pressure" where he then turns and handballs through.

Under the laws at the moment as I understand this is quite possible but would make a ridicoulous joke of the game.

In the end its just sport though who really cares?

[texta]

http://twitpic.com/4gqjfp

[JC Henderson]

http://twitpic.com/4gqjfp

Meep! Meep!

[[m]averick]

I agreed with the deliberate rushed behind situation. You need to keep it in or adequately disguise your rush.

[grimace06]

Any thoughts on Boomer Harvey's comments after the game on Saturday, Mav?

Doesn't sound great coming from the captain IMO.

[nonch]

I think his comments probably echo what a lot of people think, except the bit about Aaron Edwards being a crucial player:confused:
But it doesn't sound good at all from the skipper, and isn't the type of thing that is going to be good for team harmony.

[Gunblade89]

I think that he made some good points, i was really dissapointed in how little of an impact Petrie had on the game.

Lachie Hansen needs to stop missing easy shots, but even Boomer and Thomas missed very kickable goals in the first quarter.

Kangas have heaps of work to do, hopefully they can respond in two weeks against Freo.

[Super Sleuth]

hahhaah. That call against Jamison that resulted in the Blair goal was complete ****ing shit. **** this game.

[grimace06]

hahhaah. That call against Jamison that resulted in the Blair goal was complete ****ing shit. **** this game.

Yeah, those calls in the third quarter combined with Andrew Collins stinking it up cost Carlton when they were making their run.

[Cerebral]

Yeah, we got ****ed in the deal for Grigg.

[Cerebral]

ps the call against Russell for pushing Blair in the goalsquare was pretty shit as well. Dude goes down like he got hit by a car from a standing marking contest.

[Super Sleuth]

I meant Russell, not Jamison. So yeah, it was super ****ing shit.

[Spazzallo]

First time in a year that I haven't left a game angry. 3 wins in 22 games and 1 win in 11 in Melbourne is damn depressing though :(.

Was talking to my Melbourne supporting friend at half time whilst waiting for coffee at the G about how we'll at least beat Gold Coast because they're crap. At that moment I realised the man in front of me in line was Guy McKenna. Whoops.

[Lazlow]

I would've high fived him for the 92 and 94 premierships :D

[Cerebral]

**** everything.

Andrew Collins should prob stop playing football.

[sheeps]

Upside Cer. Winderlich and Dempsey probably out for the season. Sooo... you did SOME damage. :P

[Cerebral]

Holy shit, Gold Coast beat Port.

Grimace on suicide watch

[Spudzilla]

Delicious

[Lazlow]

Was watching it at a bar. One dude had money on the Suns, shit was intense.

[grimace06]

Holy shit, Gold Coast beat Port.

Grimace on suicide watch

Nah, it's all good. I saw this coming.

It'd be good if your boys do the business against the Crows tonight. Their front-running fans are far too up and about for a result that didn't involve their team.

[Super Sleuth]

....


nothing?


He's beyond repair, boys.

[Cerebral]

Nah, it's all good. I saw this coming.

It'd be good if your boys do the business against the Crows tonight. Their front-running fans are far too up and about for a result that didn't involve their team.

It was a shocking match but business got done.

[Gunblade89]

Port are now part of football trivia

Bad news is North are now on the bottom, we better win today! :eek:

[Cerebral]

Just watched the replay. How Ellard couldn't get a game but Andrew Collins was played against Collingwood and Essendon is mystifying. Clubs should know better than to accept trades from Richmond.

[sheeps]

**** Geelong.

[grimace06]

**** Geelong.

Now I know my team is wooden spooners elect, but for a team with so many apparently talented players - why can't the Hawks play four quarters?

[Super Sleuth]

Critical fumbling, lack of defensive intensity, lack of run from stoppages, lack of ability to win (or even attempt to win) the ball when it hits the deck, a game plan that seems to deter midfielders from running forward into the 50 to provide targets.

Mostly that.

[sheeps]

To be fair it was a pretty tight contest as always, the end margin sorta defies the whole game.

[Super Sleuth]

Geelong should have beaten us by a lot more.

Their kicking into the forward 50 let them down for a lot of the game. But they cut us up with their defensive pressure and on the overlap.

[NiB]

Fear not fellow hawkers...we'll peak towards the end of the season. Remember in 08 the other 3 in the top 4 smashed us in the HA season

[Knuckle Children]

We know the drill by now: no one wants to play the Hawks come finals time, etc, etc.

[Lazlow]

New TV deal has been done.

- $1.253 billion over the next 5 seasons
- Every game live on Foxtel/Austar
- 4 games on FTA: Friday night, Saturday arvo & night, Sunday arvo (7mate for NSW/QLD, reduced delay for SA/WA)
- Tesltra has online rights, with every game live via mobile phone

[Super Sleuth]

I'm happy with that. I've always wanted a Saturday arvo game to be televised live. And I loved when they played an early match live on a Sunday a few years ago. Normally it was a Sydney match.

[Lazlow]

I read that the Friday night bounce is being pushed back to 7:50pm which might account for the reduced delay.

[Lazlow]

I guess this also means OneHD is pretty much dead as a sport channel. It pretty much relies on AFL, Netball, NBL, NBA, F1 and MotoGP. AFL was pretty much their biggest primetime draw.

[Super Sleuth]

Good point.

Although, this may mean they look at adding new sports to their list. Like ice hockey.

Or more NBA.


cmon.

[Knuckle Children]

Great time to get Foxtel too. Seven better lift the quality of their coverage, both during the game and during the pre-match/wrap-up. Not having Foxtel, I'm really going to miss HD footy, Before The Game and The Fifth Quarter.

[Spazzallo]

Best part is Fox Footy is coming back :D.

[HD Boy]

Got on the blues for over 15 points. Whew. Thank christ that rain cleared up. Very well played, well deserved 3rd spot on the ladder. Judd was spectacular, even better than usual.. reminded me of his peak form west coast days.

[Knuckle Children]

http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/6996/rossffssml.gif

[Spazzallo]

Why can't we just lose instead of coming back from a deficit before blowing it every single week! :( 1 win out of 13 in Melbourne now.

[[m]averick]

This is insanely fun to watch.

[Cerebral]

I can't believe I missed the Bombers/Suns match

[Gunblade89]

Was hoping they would crack the 200pt mark :p

Haha port lost to this?

[sheeps]

This seems wrong. Would another year training have prevented people setting records against them? All the records Essendon took over weren't set against new teams previously.

[Spazzallo]

It really does tarnish previous records. If Gold Coast lose by more then 190 points to a team this year, I'm going to be mightily pissed.

[HD Boy]

I made over $1000 on the Dons by over 100. I still can't believe they were paying $4.50, it really is laughable.

[Spudzilla]

Reminds me of the time I used to play footy. We once won a game the final score being 240 - 0

and I kicked a goal from full back

[Kotche]

must have kicked it with your massive penis

[Spudzilla]

it was a super goal

[sheeps]

Wikipedia says Aaron Sandilands is the equal tallest player. Who's the other one?

[Super Sleuth]

Manute Bol.

[Knuckle Children]

Did anyone else see ex-Eagle Jaymie Graham's knee injury in the WAFL? The worst I've ever seen

hc-yW_lIFKA

[Kotche]

yeah it didn't look too great

[sheeps]

Jesus.

[NiB]

I have an irrational fear of playing a horrible Port team @ AMII tonight

Hawks better get methodical on their asses

[grimace06]

Some good ins for us tonight in Boak, Pearce, Schulz and Phillips but just as West Coast overcame their poor record in Adelaide to win a few weeks ago I think the Hawks will do the same. Especially after what happened against Adelaide.

[Cerebral]

The Hawks should dismantle the shit out of Port. going by form.

Carlton should do the same to St Kilda too, but I'm still a bit worried about that too, I guess.

[Super Sleuth]

Some good ins for us tonight in Boak, Pearce, Schulz and Phillips but just as West Coast overcame their poor record in Adelaide to win a few weeks ago I think the Hawks will do the same. Especially after what happened against Adelaide.

Hawthorn rarely play well interstate. Typically they play like shit against Port no matter where we play you....

I not very confident.

[Knuckle Children]

It would be just like Port to do the Hawks tonight.

[Super Sleuth]

I not very good at checking my posts for mistakes.

[Super Sleuth]

Typical display of error riddled shit so far.

[Super Sleuth]

Hahah, oh boy. How the umpire didn't see the holding the ball against Whitecross I don't know.

And ****, that mark taken by Hartlett just then... our defense is a joke.

[Super Sleuth]

this is a terrible game

[Super Sleuth]

Ok ok .
McAvaney and Cometti are going on about how Franklin and Roughead haven't kicked any of Hawthorn's goals. Pointed out that the goal kickers are the players unlikely to kick goals. Mitchell, Sewell, Renouf, Ellis. But, you see, cocks...this is why Hawthorn is so terrible going forward. They have no goal kicking options. No one ever moves into the F50 to provide the opportunity. The best clubs in the comp, Collingwood, Geelong etc have multiple players (midfielders, defenders floating forward) that consistently kick goals each round. Why is this never highlighted. Instead we just hear of the 'potential' double pronged threat of Roughead and Franklin. 1 can't kick, 1 can't mark, lead, or kick with confidence and neither can read the ball in flight or use their body in any marking contest (without giving away a free). Wow.


blah blah, all I do is hate on Hawthorn. But when you watch a team every week, you notice the flaws.

Looking at the team with the sole question 'can this team challenge for the flag', it's painfully obvious that they fall way short of the mark.

Also, just a general criticism of all players that do this (persistently), if they have a set shot at goal and they run in a direction that isn't the goals, where do they think the ball is naturally going to head? That's if the ball hits the middle of the boot... sure, you can kick it off of the instep, but what the ****. How's that a logical decision to make?

rant

[Super Sleuth]

It's not just a case of Hawthorn midfielders/defenders failing to kick goals, it's the fact that the gameplan/zoning strategy seems to actively discourage these players moving into a position on the field where they could. The amount of times they kick it into the F50 to a 3 on 1 or just lump it on the chest of the opposition spare defense player is ridiculous. You could say they midfielders delivering the ball into the F50 need to lower their vision...but there's no one there! It doesn't make sense. Every team in the comp use midfielders and defenders to creep to the 40M-ish mark to provide short options if the long kick isn't on. And in the modern game of heavy flooding and defensive zoning, kicking long into the F50 is rarely a great option.

[Super Sleuth]

Harley said, in a slightly perplexed fashion, Franklin isn't in the top 20 for marks taken in the AFL.
ok.

[Super Sleuth]

oh dear, Hodge 'mark' in the goal square. Good umpiring.


Hope everyone's enjoying my commentary of this filth.

[Lazlow]

I can't believe what I just f***ing saw.

Even if he didn't see the ball actually being punched, how the f*** did he think it magically bounced back up out of the contest? O_o

[Lazlow]

I mean seriously, the ball arcs down into the contest, and then flies back out. Did he think someone just bicycle kicked the f***er back in the air?

[Super Sleuth]

You could tell he knew he made a mistake as well. The way he didn't explain it, just a quick 'that's how I saw it'. Didn't look Logan (I think it was Logan) in the eye once.

[Super Sleuth]

Also, Jordan Lewis' kick for goal - kicked the ball in the direction he ran. oh shit

[Super Sleuth]

So if anyone just saw that contest just then, it was a perfect example of just how bad Franklin is at reading the ball in the air.

[grimace06]

All I can say is, David Rodan :(

[Super Sleuth]

That was pretty devastating. Didn't look like the was much in it either.

[sheeps]

Richmond wtf.

[sheeps]

North Melbourne still rubbish so the world hasn't changed too much.

[grimace06]

North are where I thought Essendon would be this year.

[sheeps]

North are where I thought North would be.

[Gunblade89]

Get stuffed :p

We have 4 games coming up as follows

Melb- North have a good record against the Dee's, especially at Etihad Stadium.

Brisbane- Even though it's at the Gabba, i think North can beat them. Lions don't seem to have much heart at the moment.

Sydney- Not the best record against the Swans, but at home if all the senior players and youngsters fire together they will win it.

Adelaide- Crows aren't a bad side, but they don't play well in Melbourne IMO.
North beat them last year at ES as well.


i think if North play their best footy they can win, making them 4-7, and in a couple of years could be genuine top 8 contenders.

[Spazzallo]

Fitzroy 96 would give Brisbane a run for it's ****ing money right now..

[grimace06]

Get stuffed :p

We have 4 games coming up as follows

Melb- North have a good record against the Dee's, especially at Etihad Stadium.

Brisbane- Even though it's at the Gabba, i think North can beat them. Lions don't seem to have much heart at the moment.

Sydney- Not the best record against the Swans, but at home if all the senior players and youngsters fire together they will win it.

Adelaide- Crows aren't a bad side, but they don't play well in Melbourne IMO.
North beat them last year at ES as well.


i think if North play their best footy they can win, making them 4-7, and in a couple of years could be genuine top 8 contenders.

Depending on tomorrows result (Adelaide vs the Dees) I think you're a chance to beat Brisbane and Melbourne depending on how low on confidence the Dees are. I expect Adelaide and Sydney to be on a roll when you play them making it all the more hard to win.

[Lazlow]

Been saying all week at work the Suns would beat the Lions, and no one (well the one dude that follows AFL) agreed with me.

Spewin I didn't put a bet on as they were still paying pretty handsomely. Should get an online betting account created.

[HD Boy]

I put $50 on them at $9, by going with the under 24 point margin the odds increased dramatically.

[Cerebral]

**** yeah, Carlton.

[sheeps]

So does this current fall of St. Kilda make it a bigger fall than ours from 08-09? Although I doubt St. Kilda will stay so far down for too long.

[Cerebral]

That really depends if they miss the finals. They were a good side tonight, but realistically Carlton squandered more chances (playing on from marks i50) that the Saints did and were lucky to get away with the win.

Also in two minds about Gibbs. He's systematically shut down Goddard and Goodes in consecutive weeks but doesn't show much for it in supercoach.

[nonch]

Well he's obviously a crap player then.

[Cerebral]

not sure what I was thinking when I made that post but the second bit is obv in the wrong thread. Was thinking about trading him out of my team last week but didn't want to cop the massive loss in price.

[Super Sleuth]

Jack Trengove's suspension is completely just.

right?


right.


go afl go

[Cerebral]

Give Trengove a fair go

[Cerebral]

Did anyone else get a kick out of Glenn Archer calling Montagna's bump on Curnow 'unaustralian'

[NiB]

Did anyone else get a kick out of Glenn Archer calling Montagna's bump on Curnow 'unaustralian'

*Southern Cross Tattoo*

Like Archer never whacked a bloke while he was down

[Super Sleuth]

"Brown is on if he can get the ball deep and hard"

you're dead right, Bruce.

[Gunblade89]

Go the roos, nice comeback today.

Poor lions, must be tough times at the club...

[Spazzallo]

Brown back next week, not like it makes a difference. We can't get the ball past the halfback line without someone turning it over. STOP HANDBALLING TO PEOPLES FEET!

I think this season would be a lot less heart-breaking if we had just been smashed in these games, as opposed to the false hope of being in it up until halfway through the last quarter :(.

[dimorphic]

So I've been watching more and more AFL with the Suns now in the comp (because the Roosters failures aren't justified with being 1 year old and a playing roster with the average age of 12, but let's not talk about that because I'll cry) and I have to say now that I'm understanding the game better I am really enjoying it.

I don't think it will ever replace Rugby League as my favourite sport but it has done enough to make the Suns game a must watch each week and even consider a membership.

Bravo AFL.

EDIT:

Also, if there are any other GC Suns fans on the coast there is an open day next Sunday morning for the new stadium which includes a training session and signing session with the team (it's the bye week) and it's free of charge, just go to http://www.metriconstadium.com.au/ and sign up.

[sheeps]

Hale out for 4-6 weeks and Gilham the entire season. Time for Max Bailey and Suckling to step up. Or Renouf to return from injury. Like the look of Breust too.

[NiB]

Hale out for 4-6 weeks and Gilham the entire season. Time for Max Bailey and Suckling to step up. Or Renouf to return from injury. Like the look of Breust too.

Now is the time for Schonemakers to make his mark. Gibson can play the Riewoldt types but we need a bigger body to deal with Cloke/Dawes at the pointy end of the season

[Super Sleuth]

So the ruck circle in the centre of the ground has been painted for Indigenous Round. It looks like an Aboriginal Pokeball.


explains the stolen generation