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Shame that we've missed two of the best rounds of football all year, but let's begin again. Hopefully now that the forums are back the Cats will start winning again. I blame the hacker for our drop in form. ****. :p
Sweating Bullets
17-07-2009, 11:34 AM
Round 16
Friday, July 17
Essendon vs Western Bulldogs
Saturday, July 18
Carlton vs Sydney Swans
Geelong vs Melbourne
Collingwood vs Hawthorn
Fremantle vs Brisbane Lions
Sunday, July 19
Port Adelaide vs West Coast Eagles
Richmond vs North Melbourne
St Kilda vs Adelaide
I doubt that Geelong would lose.
Spazzallo
17-07-2009, 11:41 AM
Damnit I wanted to start this thread! My first trip to the GABBA saw us beat the best team in the competition :D. I DONT CARE THAT 6 PLAYERS WERE OUT, WE WON OK?! ;)
And looked great doing it too Spazz. I was disappointed to lose obviously, but I think taking a longer term view we should be okay.
Spazzallo
17-07-2009, 02:10 PM
Geelong will definitely win the Grand Final this year. They lost by only a goal to St Kilda with Steve Johnson out, imo their most important player. If Ottens was playing it would've been a far better result too. How Blake got killed by Mitch Clark on the weekend is absolutely beyond me.
How good is Rich?! :D I love hearing the excuses that he won't get better, what a load of rot!
grimace06
17-07-2009, 02:28 PM
Seeing as we missed the last 2 rounds Port didnt really lose to Melbourne.
Right?
Only if it means Geelong are still undefeated.
grimace06
17-07-2009, 02:33 PM
Only if it means Geelong are still undefeated.
Doesn't matter - We'll smash the Cox-less Eagles (like we did to Brisbane, Hi Spaz :p) and then put the over-achieving Crowbots in their place.
Spazzallo
17-07-2009, 02:40 PM
:(.
****ing Josh Carr and Chaplin gutless ****ing wonder... *continue grumble*
grimace06
17-07-2009, 02:42 PM
:(.
****ing Josh Carr and Chaplin gutless ****ing wonder... *continue grumble*
I don't advocate people getting hurt (Rich was fine) but that was a good football bump and Chaplain should not have suspended for it.
Sweating Bullets
17-07-2009, 02:58 PM
I really do hope that the Bombers edge out the Dogs tonight.
Can't see it happening. Though as SM will tell you, last time I tipped against the Bombers in here they absolutely caned the Blues.
grimace06
17-07-2009, 03:05 PM
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh192/Spiro89/PlanetTealGuernseyFront.jpg
I like it.
This needs to be our away strip.
If you play in it anything like your last away game you might as well call it your 'give it away strip'.
:p
It's moments like this I wish we still had pep. :)
grimace06
17-07-2009, 03:15 PM
If you play in it anything like your last away game you might as well call it your 'give it away strip'.
:p
It's moments like this I wish we still had pep. :)
Why? So I could nep you? :p
Spazzallo
17-07-2009, 04:05 PM
I don't advocate people getting hurt (Rich was fine) but that was a good football bump and Chaplain should not have suspended for it.
MrrJz6U0EHM
Didn't have to leave the ground. He got 1 week which was deserved which transferred to 2 because of a bad record.
Cerebral
17-07-2009, 04:11 PM
Again, I can't believe we got Yarran instead of Rich.
I can't believe Chaplain only got a week, tbh.
And how the **** did Jordan Lewis get off?
Spazzallo
17-07-2009, 04:22 PM
Again, I can't believe we got Yarran instead of Rich.
I'm not dissing Carlton or anything, but I've heard rumours of Yarran being dropped to the VFL reserves? Do you know anything about it?
grimace06
17-07-2009, 04:28 PM
MrrJz6U0EHM
Didn't have to leave the ground. He got 1 week which was deserved which transferred to 2 because of a bad record.
Sorry man, he was in the air before Rich marked. He made a contest and didn't make head high contact.
The fact that you and the rest of the Brisbane bigfooty board can go into hysterics over that and at the same time gloss over a deliberate head butt (shouldn't matter who he hit, a head butt may as well be a punch) is ridiculous.
Troy McPharlain got reported for a similar hit on Adelaide's Scott Stevens earlier in the year, and got off despite Stevens getting injured.
-ldAi7_nwhY
Smith got nothing for that - thats even worse.
I have good reason to believe the criteria for our reports are - Minimal contact - nothing, Port Adelaide player 1-4 weeks (depending on position of player and whether they are indigenous ) + a bad record.
MrrJz6U0EHM
Didn't have to leave the ground. He got 1 week which was deserved which transferred to 2 because of a bad record.
I thought it was one week even with the bad record. How Brennan got the same deal for a ****ing headbutt (good record or not) is arguably the most ridiculous tribunal decision this year.
I think Yarran is a 'work-in-progress' style player, Cerebral. It just worked out badly for the Blues that they had to give up their prime key forward prospect (Kennedy) to secure Judd (instead of trading away another mid).
Bit ironic that one of the reasons why Port passed on Rich was because his body might have been susceptible to injury. Hartlett has already had multiple hamstring injuries and done both of his shoulders - playing less than five AFL games.
Yeah, the headbutt decision was weird. But it couldn't have happened to a nicer ****.
Spazzallo
17-07-2009, 04:41 PM
Sorry man, he was in the air before Rich marked. He made a contest and didn't make head high contact.
The fact that you and the rest of the Brisbane bigfooty board can go into hysterics over that and at the same time gloss over a deliberate head butt (shouldn't matter who he hit, a head butt may as well be a punch) is ridiculous.
We all know how stupid Brennan was. He shouldn't have done it. We all know that so there's nothing to argue :p.
Chaplin didn't make a contest and was no where near it when he jumped. He would've known he wasn't going to make it.
Been stalking me the last 2 weeks have you? :eek::p
grimace06
17-07-2009, 04:46 PM
We all know how stupid Brennan was. He shouldn't have done it. We all know that so there's nothing to argue :p.
Chaplin didn't make a contest and was no where near it when he jumped. He would've known he wasn't going to make it.
Been stalking me the last 2 weeks have you? :eek::p
Win or lose I always visit opposition boards after a match (not to post, just read).
So St Kilda have apparently dropped Luke Ball. Wow. And Ross Lyon is happy to have a swipe at Geelong for tinkering with the side.
It'll be interesting to see if he plays in the reserves or VFL this weekend...
That said, it's a bit different making a couple of changes to taking out over a third of the team starters, Jay. :p
Yeah, but really, he should just worry about what he's doing and keep his mouth shut.
For sure. But he's never been great interacting with the media. :p
Listening to the footy on Triple M at the moment -- entertaining, close game.
Yeah, it's on delay here, but I know what the live score is. I'm watching the cricket. Which reminds me I should start the cricket thread.
Sweating Bullets
17-07-2009, 08:38 PM
Watching the game live - am I allowed to post thoughts or should I wait until the game is over?
Doesn't bother me - I'm keeping up with it. But maybe use spoiler tags until about 11 (which is around when it'll finish on free to air over here.
Second
17-07-2009, 08:45 PM
Any North Fans here? I want to know who to mock when we kick their ass on the weekend. (1)
fearofthesky
17-07-2009, 08:58 PM
^Dockers fan. But I do like North. Don't mock me, I'll nep you. Wait...
Anyway, while we are talking rules and interpretations...
jIU5W7zvtto
This sent me inta a spiral of drunken rage. Apologies to Jay for raging at Geelong here, they did not deserve it. The umpires did!
This is inexcusable. The ump was dropped to WAFL after, but tbh, he needed to be fired.
Edit: Crap, im new to the whole youtube embedding thing... hang on a tic
Edit2: Crap cant work out why it isn't working, here's the link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIU5W7zvtto)
Can a mod maybe fix that for me and tell me what I did wrong? Thank youz!
Second
17-07-2009, 09:07 PM
jIU5W7zvtto
I don't see a problem with it. :p
fearofthesky
17-07-2009, 09:30 PM
I don't see a problem with it. :p
Ah-ha-ha! You sir, comedian!
grimace06
17-07-2009, 10:56 PM
What a boring match tonight.
What a boring match tonight.
It wasn't as high scoring as expected, but still extremely free-flowing, with minimal stoppages. I'd argue it was tough to label it anywhere near boring. Both teams play a really exciting style of football (something Port could learn to do more than once a month).
Whats the deal with a female commentator on 10?
It's football, not a baby making contest.
What are ex players meant to do after football now? DEY TUK OUR JOBS!
grimace06
18-07-2009, 01:44 PM
Someone doesn't like me.
Foxtel is out atm meaning I can only watch the Channel 10 match.
That woman needs to quit commentating. Immediately.
Kotche
18-07-2009, 01:50 PM
It's the first time I've heard a woman commentating AFL and quite frankly I don't like it.
I'm only just getting over the use of women as boundary riders.
And female goal umpires. That's lame.
Bring back white hat, coat and moustache.
Next they'll want female field umpires... and female drivers, and female voters.
ugh
Cerebral
18-07-2009, 02:33 PM
Someone doesn't like me.
Foxtel is out atm meaning I can only watch the Channel 10 match.
You're not missing out on much unless you like scrappy, low scoring matches.
grimace06
18-07-2009, 02:43 PM
You're not missing out on much unless you like scrappy, low scoring matches.
Yeah that's true - I'm not exactly spoiled for choice this weekend.
Considering I'm off to watch Port play West Coast tomorrow...
I knew it was a mistake to use the friday game in my weekend multi.....
Or maybe it was just a mistake to pick the Bombers :(
Well as long as them and the blues keep losings the Hawks chances of september action improve, I've got agood feeling we'll beat the pies 2nite
Cerebral
18-07-2009, 04:04 PM
Blues 8-0 in the final quarter...holy shit.
Edit: 3 seconds left Swans have possession and they kick it straight to Gibbs. 9-0.
Watching the Geelong Melbourne game
No wonder Ablett gets 40 touches a game. He gets the cheapest uncontested touches in AFL. Bowden level of cheap stats.
He runs behind every player who takes a mark and asks for the handball.
Joel Selwood on the other hand....
Watching the Geelong Melbourne game
No wonder Ablett gets 40 touches a game. He gets the cheapest uncontested touches in AFL. Bowden level of cheap stats.
He runs behind every player who takes a mark and asks for the handball.
Joel Selwood on the other hand....
You basically took the words out of my mouth. I had this debate with Jay a few days ago, and he rallied off Gablett stats (apparently the little bald guy right up there in tackles and contested ball), but I'm clearly not seeing it.
Slasher
18-07-2009, 06:18 PM
^Dockers fan. But I do like North. Don't mock me, I'll nep you. Wait...
Anyway, while we are talking rules and interpretations...
jIU5W7zvtto
This sent me inta a spiral of drunken rage. Apologies to Jay for raging at Geelong here, they did not deserve it. The umpires did!
This is inexcusable. The ump was dropped to WAFL after, but tbh, he needed to be fired.
Edit: Crap, im new to the whole youtube embedding thing... hang on a tic
Edit2: Crap cant work out why it isn't working, here's the link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIU5W7zvtto)
Can a mod maybe fix that for me and tell me what I did wrong? Thank youz!
Nothing could be worse than in the dees v port game when Rodan ran 50m got tackled then threw it, was called play on and Port scored, absolutely disgraceful.
You basically took the words out of my mouth. I had this debate with Jay a few days ago, and he rallied off Gablett stats (apparently the little bald guy right up there in tackles and contested ball), but I'm clearly not seeing it.
Well ftr I still think Ablett is a top 5 player in the entire competition... Possibly the best? He uses the ball well and has amazing core strength and running capacity.
But a 40 touch game for him is like a 30 touch game for Selwood
But a 40 touch game for him is like a 30 touch game for Selwood
Every touch Selwood gets is arguably double the value of almost anyone else in the competition (Didak maybe the exception because he uses the ball so well). It cuts me up knowing that Port passed on the guy, because he's absolutely fearless at getting the hardball.
But even comparing Ablett to someone like D. Swan - both guys have been raking up the average forty touches for months - but Swan's contribution often feels more significant.
grimace06
18-07-2009, 08:18 PM
Umpires helping Hawthorn to victory here.
Umpires helping Hawthorn to victory here.
I was thinking the same thing. But didn't wanna say it because I support Collingwood.
On another note, I wish they would trade Cloke for a good player while he is still over rated.
fearofthesky
18-07-2009, 08:53 PM
COME ON FREMANTLE! Bloody pouring at Subi, but I'm getting nothing here, >5 KM away...
sheeps
18-07-2009, 09:39 PM
woo!!
Sweating Bullets
18-07-2009, 11:38 PM
On the AFL website:
The Hawks kicked 11.10 (76) to Collingwood’s 18.13 (121).
wtf.
Spazzallo
18-07-2009, 11:41 PM
Thank God! Horrible game! Fremantle must think that getting the ball over the boundary line is a method of scoring! Good to see BrownShaw getting the free kicks they deserve FINALLY! Gonna be tough without Bradshaw and Brennan for the next few weeks though :(. Just happy with a win in those conditions in what was a horrible game.
Carn the Eagles
lol. :D
Port should keep their new guernseys permanently. They look so much better than the usual ones. Also, they're eight goals up on the Weagles at half-time, which helps.
Sweating Bullets
19-07-2009, 01:53 PM
Tigers off to a great start.
20 point lead.
Awww shit :(
They outscored Port in the last quarter, so the final margin made things look a lot better than they were throughout. Disappointing, I was hoping for a ten goal percentage booster. :(
Cerebral
19-07-2009, 04:11 PM
lmao at the Tigers/Kangas result
Spazzallo
19-07-2009, 04:22 PM
lmao at the Tigers/Kangas result
Wow lol. I was just thinking earlier today that it was strange that we hadn't seen a draw this year :p.
So can you get a priority pick with 4.5 wins?
Cerebral
19-07-2009, 04:25 PM
iirc you can (heh I would know http://uyac.com.au/forum/images/smilies/psyduck.gif) it's the amount of games won that matters.
This is an insane week for my DT. Over 2200 with half a game left from Goddard, Riewoldt and Fisher. So I'll break 2300.
But this is with a 0 from Steve J.
If I traded him out for Okeefe. 2500 :cool:
edit: Oh yeah, I hope I will beat Mouldy by more than 1000 points >_>
Second
19-07-2009, 05:20 PM
iirc you can (heh I would know http://uyac.com.au/forum/images/smilies/psyduck.gif) it's the amount of games won that matters.
It was a most exciting final quater. I couldn't stay in my seat towards the end.
This Saints vs Adelaide game is gonna get real ugly.
First 5 min of the 2nd half and Crows just want to go home.
100 point flogging coming up
edit: Or they could just kick about 10 points in a qtr
grimace06
19-07-2009, 06:00 PM
They outscored Port in the last quarter, so the final margin made things look a lot better than they were throughout. Disappointing, I was hoping for a ten goal percentage booster. :(
That was not a good win at all.
Should have won by 90+
AFL DT
overall ranking: 12 of 287,368
^_________________^
grimace06
19-07-2009, 09:35 PM
AFL DT
overall ranking: 12 of 287,368
^_________________^
Any chance for the money?
Well done in any case.
Nah, no chance.
I am 500 behind and all the top 10 teams are solid. I'd be happy with a top 50 finish to be honest.
It's my first year to play this game, sounds dumb considering how well I have done, but I feel I made a lot of silly mistakes in the first month. As far as raw points go I think I'll dominate my score next year, but overall competition should also be much tougher. So I don't know if I can have as good a season as this again.
sheeps
20-07-2009, 02:40 PM
Adem Yze is playing for Box Hill Hawks.
The world is a strange place.
At least with the cricket coming to a disappointing and early end I'll be able to watch Richmond Classified.
**** I wish the cricket was still going...
grimace06
20-07-2009, 09:41 PM
At least with the cricket coming to a disappointing and early end I'll be able to watch Richmond Classified.
**** I wish the cricket was still going...
What's the bet they talk about -
The Draw
Jade Rawlings comments
Jack Riewoldt
Jayden Post
Carlton
Hawthorn
****ing dickhead Hutchy is calling for an end to the draw. He's suggesting that no other game in the world allows for a draw. Ever heard of League Soccer you ****ing idiot? You ****ING IDIOT.
Cricket too
and a billion others
Good point.
He really is a dickhead.
sheeps
20-07-2009, 10:05 PM
Uno has a draw two.
Spazzallo
20-07-2009, 10:11 PM
Good point.
He really is a dickhead.
I think it's safe to say that 90% of people who work in the football media are dickheads. Every year its the same shit on the same schedule. What a surprise we're talking about tanking now.
Draws are awesome. They can change the ladder in a whole new way. If Carlton and Collingwood were to draw this Friday it'd have a huge effect on the ladder.
Hutchy is above the rest though. But just under Caroline's nose.
Uno has a draw two.
Excellent :)
BTW, what do you think about next week's game sheeps? Tough one for you guys just as you're getting some momentum.
Also, no Hot Seat again this week.
****ing dickhead Hutchy is calling for an end to the draw. He's suggesting that no other game in the world allows for a draw. Ever heard of League Soccer you ****ing idiot? You ****ING IDIOT.
I'm not up to that bit yet, currently watching the two nutjobs passing the buck because they don't have any ****ing idea on what's going on with Buckley. But seriously, that moron couldn't look any stupider given the draw only happens a couple of times at the most during the H&A season. What a joke...
Oh you'll love that bit D.C.
Oh you'll love that bit D.C.
Haha, I just saw it. Gary's rant about that ****er's obsession with turning it into an American sport was fantastic. :D
Haha, just wait until Grant Thomas' Pavlich call on Good Call, Bad Call. I hate him, but that was awesome.
Caro is a ****ing retard with her ignorance on tanking. Absolutely ****ing retarded.
Thomas' reaction to the mention of the Ashes proves to me what a dick he is.
RunningMild
21-07-2009, 02:03 AM
Everyone was a dick about the Ashes.
WAAAAHHH Strauss dropped the ball and it was called a catch. So ****ing what? Didn't the same thing happen with Andrew Symonds a year ago? One-eyed morons.
grimace06
21-07-2009, 02:43 AM
Everyone was a dick about the Ashes.
WAAAAHHH Strauss dropped the ball and it was called a catch. So ****ing what? Didn't the same thing happen with Andrew Symonds a year ago? One-eyed morons.
You're a pom?
Cerebral
21-07-2009, 03:20 AM
Everyone was a dick about the Ashes.
WAAAAHHH Strauss dropped the ball and it was called a catch. So ****ing what? Didn't the same thing happen with Andrew Symonds a year ago? One-eyed morons.
Ah yes two wrongs should rectify this situation
sheeps
21-07-2009, 03:37 PM
Excellent :)
BTW, what do you think about next week's game sheeps? Tough one for you guys just as you're getting some momentum.
Also, no Hot Seat again this week.
My emotions are all over the shop this season so I don't know what to think.
The fact that we could go from such a miserable loss to Bulldogs to such a brilliant win over Collingwood. I'm at a loss for words.
Sweating Bullets
21-07-2009, 03:46 PM
I think Hawks have a better chance of beating the Saints. I doubt that we will be able to beat Geelong this week.
Just to clarify - not in a cocky sense that Hawks can topple the giants but I think that the Saints might get a bit battered from the Dogs.
grimace06
21-07-2009, 03:57 PM
My emotions are all over the shop this season so I don't know what to think.
The fact that we could go from such a miserable loss to Bulldogs to such a brilliant win over Collingwood. I'm at a loss for words.
You have the wood on Collingwood and you aint too far off against the Cats.
I've said it before, I'll say it again - the Port vs Hawthorn match is going to a cracker.
CARLTON coach Brett Ratten has admitted midfielder Nick Stevens' weight issues had contributed to his demotion to VFL ranks.
Ahahahahahahahahahha
that's awesome
Grechy
21-07-2009, 06:08 PM
I had this irking feeling Hawthorn would get up on the weekend. Just knew eventually they were going to have a big win. They're still a quality side who have been crueled with injuries.
Franklin, Hodge, Mitchill, Gilham, Roughead, Bateman & Rioli. They still have the core that won them a flag and they still have Dew, Young & Croad to come back into the side. I think they'll win a fair few more before the season ends and sneak into the 8. Collingwood were just rattled during the 3rd quarter. Totally outplayed.
Super Mario
21-07-2009, 06:17 PM
I'm actually a bit worried about this, if they get in they'll push us out, could come down to Round 22 when we play them again.
I'd be far more worried about Port leapfrogging you for the final position than the Hawks at the moment, SM. Have you seen the draw the Hawks have? It's brutal. I think they have left their run too late.
sheeps
21-07-2009, 07:56 PM
I'm actually a bit worried about this, if they get in they'll push us out, could come down to Round 22 when we play them again.
That'd be exciting if it was like a playoff.
JC Henderson
21-07-2009, 08:11 PM
SO I am a huge saints supporter since birth but I want everyones opinion. DO we need a loss in the regular season or do you think we have the mental attitude to go unbeaten?
I'd love to see them clean sweep the season. Just because it'd be so impressive.
If they sweep the pressure on them heading into the finals is going to be unbearable. 'Premiership or bust' kind of hype (if it hasn't reached that level already). So, from that perspective, it might be better for them to drop one in the H&A season...
JC Henderson
21-07-2009, 08:22 PM
Thats how I am feeling. There is just so much pressure on them already with the lack of premierships for the club. Its almost scary as a supporter to even think that they have a chance this year.
sheeps
21-07-2009, 09:10 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_AFL_season#Ladder
RunningMild
21-07-2009, 09:31 PM
Ah yes two wrongs should rectify this situation
I'm not saying that. I'm saying that when it happens with an Australian player it's shrugged off as 'part of the game', 'alls fair in love and war' etc, but when it happens with an overseas player the media crucifies him, calls him a cheat etc.
I wish Chris Jericho was on hand to bitch slap the panel and point out what a bunch of hypocritical ****heads they were. :p
Besides, they should do their job and make brain-dead, uninformed comments about footy instead of making brain-dead, uninformed comments about other sports.
Also, I don't think the Saints 'need' a loss. That team has more finals experience than people give them credit for.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_AFL_season#Ladder
Amazing how that was Freo's highest finish until 2003. :p
[m]averick
22-07-2009, 11:48 AM
Everyone was a dick about the Ashes.
WAAAAHHH Strauss dropped the ball and it was called a catch. So ****ing what? Didn't the same thing happen with Andrew Symonds a year ago? One-eyed morons.
Imagine the reaction if that was Ponting who claimed that catch, though.
RunningMild
22-07-2009, 01:25 PM
averick;1094843']Imagine the reaction if that was Ponting who claimed that catch, though.
Yep, I know exactly what the headlines would have been:
STUPID WHINGEING POMS ACCUSE US OF CHEATING
Ponting: **** you Poms, it's part of the game
Editorial: Why do Poms whinge so damn much?
:rolleyes:
grimace06
22-07-2009, 04:17 PM
Yep, I know exactly what the headlines would have been:
STUPID WHINGEING POMS ACCUSE US OF CHEATING
Ponting: **** you Poms, it's part of the game
Editorial: Why do Poms whinge so damn much?
:rolleyes:
Yeah you're an idiot.
grimace06
22-07-2009, 06:26 PM
Port get to wear that guernsey we wore against the Eagles last Sunday again this week against the Crows.
I wish it could replace that white....thing.
I'm actually a bit worried about this, if they get in they'll push us out, could come down to Round 22 when we play them again.
At best we can afford 2 losses (cats & saints) which means we'd have to beat Port at AAMI, the crows at the G and account for the tigers and bombers to finish off the season.
Possible first final against Lions @ Gabba or Crows @ AAMI if the 8 stays as it is. Ideally I'd like a first final against Carlton
Super Mario
22-07-2009, 07:18 PM
Might get tickets early for round 22 asap.
Port get to wear that guernsey we wore against the Eagles last Sunday again this week against the Crows.
I wish it could replace that white....thing.
I'm biased, but that new guernsey is easily one of the best in the league design-wise. If a seven year-old can design that, it makes you wonder...
RunningMild
23-07-2009, 01:17 PM
I'm biased, but that new guernsey is easily one of the best in the league design-wise. If a seven year-old can design that, it makes you wonder...
Yeah, if someone sees a crappy guernsey and says 'Geez, a seven year old could come up with a better guernsey', it's not just hyperbole anymore! :p
Super Mario
23-07-2009, 01:20 PM
Yo anyone know what the word is on Cox?
Second
23-07-2009, 05:03 PM
Yo anyone know what the word is on Cox?
I know quite a few, but most of them are censored.
Super Mario
23-07-2009, 05:14 PM
What about Peter Burgoyne or Jack Grimes?
My SC is suffering and I need to know if I should trade, I heard Grimes should only be out for 1 week, no idea about Cox or P. Burgoyne.
grimace06
23-07-2009, 05:43 PM
What about Peter Burgoyne or Jack Grimes?
My SC is suffering and I need to know if I should trade, I heard Grimes should only be out for 1 week, no idea about Cox or P. Burgoyne.
Peter Burgoyne got dropped a couple of weeks ago for an insipid performance against Melbourne.
Unless he decides to retire and we start losing more games, he wont play many games for the rest of the year.
Super Mario
23-07-2009, 05:51 PM
Perhaps an upgrade to Hodge then.
Super Mario
23-07-2009, 08:36 PM
Hawthorn are paying $4.10 could be a good bet.
sheeps
23-07-2009, 09:05 PM
That's tempting.
In the past 45 minutes in this ****ing game there have been two goals kicked. Brilliant. :/
Awful game. Carlton have been really inconsistent this season.
It's a bit of measure of how overrated Collingwood are that they have been completely unable to put them away.
Wait until the final quarter. :p Just from listening to the game on the radio, it seems like Ratten has completely blotched up with the coaching tactics again. If Malthouse were to become available, the Blues would be wise to try and enter the fray for his services. Some of the decisions Ratten has made throughout this season have been just mind-boggling.
Yeah, I reckon Ratten might be in some serious trouble.
Sweating Bullets
24-07-2009, 09:50 PM
Wtf happened to Carlton? I really don't understand how they did so poorly.
Refused to tag Swan, had no idea how to counter the 'free' man in defense, horrible delivery into the forward line, and generally were scared to play through the corridor (despite being down by more than four goals for almost the entire game).
sheeps
24-07-2009, 10:08 PM
Carlton losing is good for Hawthorn :).
grimace06
24-07-2009, 10:18 PM
Carlton losing is good for Hawthorn :).
I'd more concerned with Port and Essendon losing if I was you.
Do you play Carlton again this year?
sheeps
24-07-2009, 10:27 PM
Don't think so.
I just see it better if Carlton drops out than Collingwood joining the fray. Although it probably doesn't make a difference, cbf figuring it out.
Cerebral
24-07-2009, 10:29 PM
Mind boggling that nothing was done to counter Collingwood's defense. From what I watched of the game, we generally weren't bad through half back and the midfield, but every forward entry attempt rebounded straight off their backline. Noone was really running hard or leading up the ground, and we can't expect every team's legs to give up like Sydney's did last week.
Gah. At least we still have a decent chance to stay in the 8 - our run home is relatively kind compared to other contenders.
The Cats/Hawks game is already better than last night's. Seeing Ablett get drilled in the opening minutes was fantastic. :p
Sweating Bullets
25-07-2009, 01:31 PM
What happened DC? People in Melbourne aren't getting it live.
Looks like Hawks are already down. damn
What happened DC? People in Melbourne aren't getting it live.
Looks like Hawks are already down. damn
He got a nice hip-and-shoulder. Has racked up the usual number, but hasn't done anything significant thus far.
Geelong are falling apart at the moment. I'm really surprised -- thought they were going to slaughter the Hawks. Franklin has kicked three brilliant goals.
Sweating Bullets
25-07-2009, 02:22 PM
I wouldn't count the Cats out just yet. They can still rally.
Gaming starting now in Melbourne on Channel 10. Watching it now - whilst checking online
Unbelievable game. The Saints/Cats had more intensity, but this had the more exciting finish. And Selwood - what a ****ing ripper.
Sweating Bullets
25-07-2009, 04:03 PM
Oh man. What a nail biter!!
Hawks could have won that game. But still a few good things to take away from that is that at least Hawks are playing decent now.
Surely, there is no way they could possibly win four of the next five?
Sweating Bullets
25-07-2009, 04:24 PM
Well next games are:
Port
Saints
Adelaide
Tigers
Essendon
It's a possibility for sure. We'll see how it goes.
Cerebral
25-07-2009, 05:04 PM
Awesome last quarter - a lot like the Carlton v Hawks game only Geelong could get away with a behind. :(
ireadtabloids
25-07-2009, 05:20 PM
That Essendon game at the end will probably decide the 8th spot. Great season of football!
Spazzallo
25-07-2009, 06:05 PM
God I hope Hawthorn don't make the finals! If Brisbane make it and play them in an elimination final this season will have been for nothing! T_T
How good was that goal by Ruffles to get Freo over the line against West Coast? Body was leaning the wrong way for the kick and he still banana'd the thing through! Shame he did his knee a minute later :(.
Well next games are:
Port
Saints
Adelaide
Tigers
Essendon
It's a possibility for sure. We'll see how it goes.
They won't beat the Saints and will struggle big-time against the Crows. Also, the Port and Essendon games are dicey. No chance. :p
Wow. I was stuck at work, watching it on the internet. The kids got quite frightened when I suddenly screamed, haha. Haven't seen it yet. Can't wait.
Since when is saturday a school day? That's supposed to be the time when people can kick back and have a few drinks in front of the footy. Or so Aussie yobbos have said. :p
Oh, and the umpiring in the Cats/Hawks game was horrendous. One ump in particular.
RunningMild
25-07-2009, 06:20 PM
I heard Ken Judge wanted to take the Glendinning Medal home because he thought no-one deserved it. :|
I heard Ken Judge wanted to take the Glendinning Medal home because he thought no-one deserved it. :|
Ha ha that's gold.
@ D.C.
Rehearsals :(
All day tomorrow too, from 9am. My life is awesome.
(actually I don't mind, though I would've loved to have watched the footy today)
Super Sleuth
25-07-2009, 11:59 PM
So much pain.
I don't know Sleuth. Today was awesome, but it doesn't come close to making up for last September.
Super Sleuth
26-07-2009, 12:09 AM
I figured as much but, damn...it hurt.
Why oh why did Kennedy handpass it to Franklin? It will haunt me for quite a while.
We were gone. Very proud of the way the boys stood up, down two defenders (one of them being the best defender in the competition) and with Franklin clearly in a mood. Would love to get a replay of the game.
St Kilda continue to look awesome. Pretty pleased we pushed them very close whilst missing key players. But injuries are really hurting us atm. :(
grimace06
26-07-2009, 01:05 AM
FFS, now Hawthorn will be ravenous next week.
texta
26-07-2009, 08:27 AM
They won't beat the Saints and will struggle big-time against the Crows. Also, the Port and Essendon games are dicey. No chance. :pAnd let's not forget that Richmond have the wood over the Hawks after their win last year. <_<
FFS, now Hawthorn will be ravenous next week.Or they'll have been destroyed.
Hey, who am I kidding, a team of grandmothers could beat Port.
Hey, who am I kidding, a team of grandmothers could beat Port.
What does that say about Richmond then? :p
texta
26-07-2009, 11:50 AM
We're purposely tanking so that we can make great trades like Kent Kingsley.
Spazzallo
26-07-2009, 12:00 PM
Yay we won last night. Though yet another chance wasted to earn some valuable percentage.
Very nervous about the next two weeks, double header at the MCG against Collingwood and Essendon. Essendon have the wood over us in Melbourne though we've always played at Docklands. And Collingwood are Collingwood.
Gonna be a long week.
texta
26-07-2009, 01:07 PM
I need Sydney, Essendon and Adelaide to win today to get 8 in the tipping.
Sweating Bullets
26-07-2009, 02:35 PM
I hope the Tigers will purely to keep the Hawks chances in making the 8 more realistic.
Tigers are doing good so far but then again they were doing really well against North.
Sweet. All Port need to do now is beat the silly Crows. ;)
Spazzallo
26-07-2009, 04:04 PM
Bloody Bombers have given the Hawks an extra life.
I know. Still, maybe Port will do the right thing and beat the Crows.
Yes, SB, this is all about keeping the Hawks out of the finals. :)
Sweating Bullets
26-07-2009, 04:48 PM
haha you guys are harsh!
Things might work out for the Hawks if Port lose. Then the next 5 games become crucial for all involved as we all bump heads.
What's happening with Stewie '3rd Quarter Freak' Dew? Is he injured?
Sweating Bullets
26-07-2009, 05:08 PM
See he was missing from the match against the Cats. If he was there I would expect a repeat from the grand finals. I think his hamstring injury is still around this season.
Maybe to rest him up incase the Hawks make the finals again and then unleash him onto the Cats!
moo ha ha
Spazzallo
26-07-2009, 05:54 PM
I know. Still, maybe Port will do the right thing and beat the Crows.
Yes, SB, this is all about keeping the Hawks out of the finals. :)
I'm more worried that if they make the finals they will be in form and smash us! :(
Can't stop thinking about next weeks game against Collingwood. ARGH! :mad:
Sweating Bullets
26-07-2009, 06:37 PM
Port have been downed by the Crows.
So onto Round 18:
FRIDAY, JULY 31
North Melbourne v Carlton TD (N)
SATURDAY, AUGUST 1
Western Bulldogs v Fremantle TD
Geelong v Adelaide SS
Sydney v St Kilda SCG (N)
Collingwood v Brisbane Lions MCG (N)
SUNDAY, AUGUST 2
Melbourne v Richmond MCG
Port Adelaide v Hawthorn AS
West Coast v Essendon S
I do hope Hawks can edge out a win against Port. I mean out of the sides in the hunt for the finals - I do think Hawks showed some pretty good form against the Cats. Let's hope they bring that to their next games.
Bombers should snap out their two losses with a win against the Eagles. Some interesting games this coming round.
Disgraceful performance. If the players don't fire up and beat the Hawks at home they don't deserve to be anywhere near the finals.
Richmond Classified is on. The Hot Seat is back - Adam Simpson, which will be nice (if not all that meaty), what with him retiring and all.
Oh, and the Geel v Haw game is on One. Awesome. :)
Hey SB, turn it on about 11:30, just in time for the last quarter!
Sweating Bullets
27-07-2009, 10:22 PM
Don't make me nep you Jay!!
I must say tho - that was an awesome game despite the Hawks losing.
Just goes to show how great of a team Geelong are.
I am not watching the loss again- I think I might watch some highlights of the Carlton vs Collingwood game tho.
The woman commentator almost single-handedly ruined that game. I had the tv on mute when it was live, but saw the replay with her on calling - horrible. If you're going to have a woman doing it, at least get one who is decent and doesn't have such an annoying voice.
Also, apparently Corey got off for that intentional, shocking elbow hit too. Unbelievable.
Super Sleuth
27-07-2009, 10:31 PM
What's happening with Stewie '3rd Quarter Freak' Dew? Is he injured?
He injured his hamstring about 6 weeks ago and has played for Box Hill for the last 2 weeks. Unfortunately he injured it again this weekend...so it'll be another 3 weeks before he's good to go. So he probably wont play again this year. I'd say it just wasn't meant to be for us in 2009.
I read somewhere that he kicked three and was best on ground last week before going down again. If his contract is up at the end of this season, I wonder if the Hawks will re-sign him for next year...
The Corey hit was a fair bump, if slightly late - I worry about you sometimes D.C.
And I actually really like Kelli Underwood - I think she's pretty good, and a breath of fresh air.
The Corey hit was a fair bump, if slightly late - I worry about you sometimes D.C.
I saw at least three replays - he got the Hawks player flush on the jaw, right? I swear, if that was a Port player, gone for a month. :p
Spazzallo
27-07-2009, 10:45 PM
The Corey hit was a fair bump, if slightly late - I worry about you sometimes D.C.
And I actually really like Kelli Underwood - I think she's pretty good, and a breath of fresh air.
Maybe if her voice wasn't so bloody awful I wouldn't mind her. She sounds like shes trying to be a bloke.
I think it's just because you're so used to a male timbre, so she almost is forced to sound like a bloke. You'd prefer she did a bit more squealing?
Anyway, watching this proves a couple of things to me:
1) Hawthorn are a great side, and will be very very dangerous if they make the finals (and could end St Kilda's unbeaten run in two weeks time)
2) We are also a very good side, and have great heart I've not seen before. Awesome.
3) Ling is a genius
4) Jordon Lewis is a thug who got absolutely embarrassed by Selwood, a guy who actually plays football rather than running around belting blokes.
Spazzallo
27-07-2009, 10:57 PM
Well you listen to those boundary riders and they actually sound like woman. Maybe that is what I was expecting! :P
sheeps
27-07-2009, 11:12 PM
4) Jordon Lewis is a thug who got absolutely embarrassed by Selwood, a guy who actually plays football rather than running around belting blokes.
Did Lewis kick a goal off a Selwood mistake?
That being said, I haven't watched the game yet. It's sitting on my iQ taunting me.
Maybe, but Selwood had 42 touches and was a clear best on. Lewis spent most of his time trying to belt him.
Watch it sheeps, because even though the result is not what you want it was an awesome game, and you guys can take massive positives out of it.
Selwood did make a couple of errors in the last quarter, but the little guy is so bloody amazing, even those didn't look nearly as bad had another player made them. :p Overall, I thought it was just below Bartel's effort against the Saints, but still right up there in the top five single performances this season. He was the spark. His teammates might have jumped on board afterwards, but he was one of the very few putting his hand up when things weren't going their way.
I didn't think Lewis was that bad (performance-wise), but those ridiculous attempts at 'roughing up' opposing players up he does every so often are cringe-worthy. It's pretty silly how the media have pumped up that kind of "unsociable" stuff up as being the key ingredient to the team's success. Time and place for doing that.
Oh Jay, you forgot one point - Ablett pulling out of a pretty big contest when Roughead was charging forward to mark. He didn't even get close enough to duck out at the last minute. Sorry, I had to mention it. :p
sheeps
28-07-2009, 12:37 AM
Whatever blokes, I'll always love a bit of lewis! Good ol' Warrnambool boy.
Slasher
28-07-2009, 08:30 AM
I was almost yelling at Kelli Underwood when Mooney went back with the flight and crunched Murphy? (which was probably a mark) and she was going on about how brave Mooney was when Murphy? got straight back up and ran off with the ball while Mooney was just sitting there whinging. Pretty sure it was more courageous to get ****ed up then get straight back up and win the ball.
[m]averick
28-07-2009, 11:08 AM
Havent been able to get on BigFooty since yesterday afternoon when the Buckley story broke.
RunningMild
28-07-2009, 12:50 PM
averick;1096904']Havent been able to get on BigFooty since yesterday afternoon when the Buckley story broke.
I see no link between those two things. :p
grimace06
28-07-2009, 01:37 PM
Can I just reiterate that Caro is a moron?
She pissed me off so much with her comment that "it would be a travesty" if Hawthorn didn't play finals.
So two good games and you deserve to make finals more than 4 other teams? If I was Essendon or Carlton I would feel aggrieved at those comments - how the **** can someone be so disrespectful.
Even during their poor run of form Hawthorn went relatively unscathed from the media - the injuries excuse was bandied about with gay abandon. It's only now that they play three of their bunny teams in a row that they get it together?
For the record, they will probably smash Port and their Premiership odds will halve with so many hoping for another Bradbury effort.
Sweating Bullets
28-07-2009, 01:52 PM
She pissed me off so much with her comment that "it would be a travesty" if Hawthorn didn't play finals.
I took it to mean that the reigning premiers always make the next finals with the last time it happened being Adelaide in 1999.
I took it to mean that the reigning premiers always make the next finals with the last time it happened being Adelaide in 1999.
I'm actually a little surprised at the trend of teams backing up a premiership with, at bare minimum, a finals appearance the following season to be honest. You look at lots of other sports and, quite a lot of the time, it's actually more common to see the premier struggle big-time, while the wooden-spooners follow up with a finals appearance. Maybe it's because the AFL is still behind the ball when it comes to free agency and more equal competition, because once teams are down, they generally stay there for an alarmingly long time (priority picks aren't helping).
That said, her comment was foolish because let's face it, only the Hawks supporters are going to view a bottom eight finish as a tragedy.
Will Buckley even be a good coach?
Good player and good coach are totally different things.
As a Collingwood fan I am anxious, but at least he is taking it slow, 2012 is a long time away
grimace06
28-07-2009, 03:15 PM
Will Buckley even be a good coach?
Good player and good coach are totally different things.
As a Collingwood fan I am anxious, but at least he is taking it slow, 2012 is a long time away
Leigh Matthews?
I'm not saying good players make bad coaches.
But being a good player isn't any guarantee of success as a coach. (which is a trend in the AFL recently)
What the **** is director of coaching?! If Mick has the same kind of success in the upcoming two years as he has had this season, it's pretty laughable that he would settle for a seemingly meaningless, title-only role.
RunningMild
28-07-2009, 07:41 PM
My guess is it's the same role the Dockers offered Sheedy a while ago.
And seeing as Mick is over 60, maybe he only wants to coach for a couple more years before winding down and spending more time with his family or something.
So, Bucks is an assistant at Collingwood (which I predicted) and Williams has re-signed with the Power. I tip that the Tiger's new head coach will either be Damien Hardwick (the frontrunner) or Jade Rawlings (if he does something absolutely amazing over the next five rounds), with the Roos going for John Longmire (premiership player for the club, and apparently the next best candidate after Hardwick in his own right). If the Tigers don't want Rawlings as their head coach, I wouldn't be surprised if the Roos persued him strongly- he's got AFL coaching experience and is a former player to boot.
sheeps
28-07-2009, 10:00 PM
Rawlings played three games with the Roos, hardly a life membership. Hah.
I think this is good for Buckley and Collingwood, rather than jumping straight into the head job. That being said, the Lions are doing very well after some hurdles earlier in the season.
Slasher
29-07-2009, 08:42 AM
Karmichael Hunt to sign with GCFC in a massive coup for AFL (http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25850508-23214,00.html)
Patdog
29-07-2009, 10:19 AM
**** me thats big news
RunningMild
29-07-2009, 11:52 AM
Yeah, when I saw the headline I thought it was a practical joke or something.
It would be a massive victory for the AFL in Queensland if he was a success. I reckon he'll be a bigger drawcard for GC than any established AFL player.
Also, the ninemsn article said that Inglis, Slater, and Folau are other big targets for the AFL. I understand why they'd target young guys like Folau, but Slater? Isn't he 29 years old?
EDIT: What's the email address for Footy Classified? I searched Google and couldn't find anything.
Lazlow
29-07-2009, 12:08 PM
Slater's a monster of an athlete though, regardless of age.
RunningMild
30-07-2009, 01:45 AM
Rawlings played three games with the Roos, hardly a life membership. Hah.
Uh, I never said he had a life membership. I was merely pointing out that the year he spent at the club (he didn't just show up for three games and **** off after the siren went) might give him some familiarity with some of the players, coaches and administrators, and help him to settle in quicker if he was given the coaching job.
Also, wasn't he an assistant at the Roos before going to Richmond?
Cerebral
31-07-2009, 09:16 PM
Carlton are getting so lucky - North have kicked about 9 behinds in the last quarter so far.
jawsy
31-07-2009, 09:39 PM
I understand why they'd target young guys like Folau, but Slater? Isn't he 29 years old?
Just turned 26.
Spazzallo
31-07-2009, 10:35 PM
What a cracking last quarter. Shame the Roos couldn't get up for Simpson. Time to spend a week in front of goals.
EDIT: Shit did someone die or something before Carlton sang their song? Don't look happy at all.
RunningMild
31-07-2009, 10:47 PM
Amazing that Port are considering copying the Collingwood blueprint, with Mark Williams stepping aside for Damien Hardwick in a couple of years.
If that happens, I pick Rawlings as the Tigers frontrunner.
grimace06
31-07-2009, 11:03 PM
Amazing that Port are considering copying the Collingwood blueprint, with Mark Williams stepping aside for Damien Hardwick in a couple of years.
If that happens, I pick Rawlings as the Tigers frontrunner.
Dude, Collingwood weren't the first to do this sort of coaching set up.
Carlton did it when Wayne Brittain was taking over from David Parkin just before 2000.
Port also did it back in 98/99 when Williams spent time under Cahill.
Just saying.
EDIT: Shit did someone die or something before Carlton sang their song? Don't look happy at all.
If I was a Blues supporter, I'd be more concerned if they were all smiles and actually happy after that performance.
RunningMild
31-07-2009, 11:37 PM
Dude, Collingwood weren't the first to do this sort of coaching set up.
Carlton did it when Wayne Brittain was taking over from David Parkin just before 2000.
Port also did it back in 98/99 when Williams spent time under Cahill.
Just saying.
Collingwood were the first to make the current coach a future director of coaching though. :p
Right?
Anyway, turns out that Port are only considering the option, Hardwick is only being considered as the successor, and Port came up with the idea before Collingwood signed up Bucks and Malthouse. Williams said he will only hand over the reins to what he feels is the 'right person' (which is only a few people, including Hardwick), and Williams is almost certain to take another role at the club after stepping aside.
Here's another interesting bit of news- Greg Inglis did not rule out switching to AFL when his contract expires in 2012. He said if the AFL made him a big enough offer he'd consider it, and said he 'wouldn't mind having a crack'. I don't think it would work out because he'd be 26 before the 2013 season started, and AFAIK he doesn't have the same experience with the sport as Hunt does. Still, I think the fact that he'd even consider a switch is unbelievable.
It would be pretty funny if all these big-time NFL players jumped on the bandwagon and the AFL wasted millions bringing them over, only to have them all become utterly abysmal AFL players, not even up to the standard of the second stringers getting paid peanuts to make up the initial numbers for the GC club. Certainly a bigger possibility than any actually becoming star players.
Cerebral
01-08-2009, 03:15 AM
If I was a Blues supporter, I'd be more concerned if they were all smiles and actually happy after that performance.
This is true. We did not win that game, North Melbourne lost it.
[m]averick
01-08-2009, 11:24 AM
I'd be embarrassed if I were a Carlton fan. Would be struggling to make the finals if they keep serving up that rubbish against a team that, right now, would struggle to beat VFL sides.
And I said this on UYAC, but Greenwood gave Judd an absolute bath. Thirteen disposals up to three quarter time for Juddy, before Greenwood got injured. And Scott Thompson was great too. Fev just got some lucky ones plus a lace out pass from Gibbs that was pretty much unstoppable. McIntosh also taught Kreuzer a lesson. Wish McIntosh would rest forward more often, very dangerous resting ruckman.
Lost all interest in the game when the bloke in front of me told me that Onions was on a hat-trick though. Had to wander to the back of the bar and watch that for awhile.
Seriously though, Carlton are woeful.
Super Mario
01-08-2009, 12:29 PM
Anyone see Fev give (Thompson?) a kiss, I lolled.
averick;1098186']And I said this on UYAC, but Greenwood gave Judd an absolute bath. Thirteen disposals up to three quarter time for Juddy, before Greenwood got injured. And Scott Thompson was great too. Fev just got some lucky ones plus a lace out pass from Gibbs that was pretty much unstoppable. McIntosh also taught Kreuzer a lesson. Wish McIntosh would rest forward more often, very dangerous resting ruckman..
Judd's been down for a couple of weeks now, but you would think with all that talent in their midfield somebody else would be able to step up occasionally. On paper they should be smacking around almost every other team in the centre (bar Geelong and St. Kilda).
I've seen bits and pieces of McIntosh this year and he's been very good in that running-all-over-the ground Cox role, but he always seems to be beaten in hit-outs. He's not Fraser-bad, but isn't particularly great either.
What did you think of Hansen's game last night? Bit of a shocker... :p
RunningMild
01-08-2009, 03:56 PM
It would be pretty funny if all these big-time NRL players jumped on the bandwagon and the AFL wasted millions bringing them over, only to have them all become utterly abysmal AFL players, not even up to the standard of the second stringers getting paid peanuts to make up the initial numbers for the GC club.
The ARU would know how that feels. :D
I think Hunt actually could be a success because he seems to have the right credentials. He played in the elite comp (?) until he was 17, plus he did a skills session at AIS recently and Buckley said his kicking was as good as Martin Clarke. Also, he's just the right age- not too young, but still young enough. Inglis and Slater seem too old and too inexperienced to make the switch IMO. Hell, even Mike Pyke is only 25 years old, which is pretty old by AFL standards but still younger than Inglis would be when his contract is up.
Go Cats!
Gutsy again - Crows played really well and threw absolutely everything at us. Come on!
Richo has done the hammy again. Tough to see him playing on next season...
Spazzallo
01-08-2009, 10:18 PM
Hey there,
I know it's hard to feel like I don't care at all.
Where you are and how you feel.
With these lights off as these wheels
keep rolling on and on. (and on and on and on...)
Slow things down or speed them up.
Not enough or way too much. (and on and on and on...)
How are you when I'm gone?
[Chorus:]
And I can't make it on my own.
(And I can't make it on my own.)
Because my heart is in Ohio.
So cut my wrists and black my eyes.
(Cut my wrists and black my eyes)
So I can fall asleep tonight, or die.
Because you kill me.
You know you do, you kill me well.
You like it too, and I can tell.
You never stop until my final breath is gone.
Spare me just three last words.
"I love you" is all she heard.
I'll wait for you, but I can't wait forever.
[x2]
[Chorus:]
And I can't make it on my own.
(And I can't make it on my own.)
Because my heart is in Ohio.
So cut my wrists and black my eyes.
(Cut my wrists and black my eyes)
So I can fall asleep tonight, or die.
Because you kill me.
You know you do, you kill me well.
You like it too, and I can tell.
You never stop until my final breath is gone.
You know you do, you kill me well.
You like it too, and I can tell.
You never stop until my final breath is gone.
(YOU...KILL...ME...WELL)
So cut my wrists and black my eyes.
My final breath is gone
So I can fall asleep tonight
[Chorus:]
And I can't make it on my own.
(And I can't make it on my own.)
Because my heart is in Ohio.
So cut my wrists and black my eyes.
(Cut my wrists and black my eyes)
So I can fall asleep tonight, or die.
Because you kill me.
You know you do, you kill me well.
You like it too, and I can tell.
You never stop until my final breath is gone.
(YOU...KILL...ME...WELL)
You know you do, you kill me well.
You like it too, and I can tell.
You never stop until my final breath is gone.
Slasher
02-08-2009, 11:01 AM
The ARU would know how that feels. :D
I think Hunt actually could be a success because he seems to have the right credentials. He played in the elite comp (?) until he was 17,
He only played a handful of games for his school when he was in year 12
Spazzallo
02-08-2009, 02:59 PM
Sigh, deaf umpire cost me $70. Not my weekend.
Sweating Bullets
02-08-2009, 03:27 PM
Tigers with a close win. Hawks and Port are really battling it out for a spot in the finals.
Second
02-08-2009, 04:00 PM
****ing Terrible game.
Sweating Bullets
02-08-2009, 05:02 PM
Inaccuracies again are the downfall of the Hawks.
Grr.
Wow, what a wonderfully entertaining game. If only Port could play like this for two weeks in a row! Had some terrific contributors today; Boak blitzed the centre, Burgoyne showed some great signs from injury, and fingers crossed Hartlett can keep his body in check for the remainder of the season, because he was great. Hopefully the Weagles keep up their effort and knock off the Bombers over at Subi too.
lol, Buddy 2.7... :D
Sweating Bullets
02-08-2009, 05:14 PM
If only the Hawks could have kicked straight.
*sob*
They're gone. No way they'll have a chance given they still have to play St. Kilda, Adelaide, and Essendon (not to mention how the other remaining teams jostling for those final positions have easier draws). Probably time to put any star players in for surgery now rather than later.
Sweating Bullets
02-08-2009, 05:29 PM
The dream is never over!! Hawks can still do it!
:(
sheeps
02-08-2009, 05:34 PM
I'd be more worried if I was Essendon at the moment if they lose this game to West Coast...
Super Mario
02-08-2009, 06:07 PM
**** off.
Spazzallo
02-08-2009, 06:24 PM
Oh well. Next weeks game between the Lions and Bombers will be decided by who chokes worse.
RunningMild
02-08-2009, 06:25 PM
WHO'S TANKING NOW BITCHES???
GO **** YOURSELF TERRY WALLACE, WEST COAST NEVER TANK, NEVER HAVE AND NEVER WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D
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Super Mario
02-08-2009, 06:29 PM
**** off.
Spazzallo
02-08-2009, 06:31 PM
WHO'S TANKING NOW BITCHES???
GO **** YOURSELF TERRY WALLACE, WEST COAST NEVER TANK, NEVER HAVE AND NEVER WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D
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I was amazed that people could say West Coast were tanking. Such a proud club would never do a thing like that.
For the record, I tipped them :D.
RunningMild
02-08-2009, 06:34 PM
Seriously, I'm really happy that the Eagles have won more games than last year. Also, I looked down the schedule and there were about 2 other games at Subi where I thought 'If they beat Essendon, they can definitely win these'.
Hopefully we can have a strong run home, finish higher than the Dockers, and shut up all those critics who thought we were a mortal lock for the spoon this year/tanking. Also, Mark Thompson can stop getting morally outraged over the priority pick system. :p
I was amazed that people could say West Coast were tanking. Such a proud club would never do a thing like that.
For the record, I tipped them :D.
I tipped Essendon because I'm working with a system (I'm bored of tipping, the only reason I entered the comp is because there's money to win), but I genuinely believed the Eagles would win.
Seriously, I'm really happy that the Eagles have won more games than last year. Also, I looked down the schedule and there were about 2 other games at Subi where I thought 'If they beat Essendon, they can definitely win these'.
Hopefully we can have a strong run home, finish higher than the Dockers, and shut up all those critics who thought we were a mortal lock for the spoon this year/tanking. Also, Mark Thompson can stop getting morally outraged over the priority pick system. :p
I tipped Essendon because I'm working with a system (I'm bored of tipping, the only reason I entered the comp is because there's money to win), but I genuinely believed the Eagles would win.
Yeah, because the fact that you won't get one suddenly means it's an awesome system. Anyone with half a brain is outraged by the priority pick system.
grimace06
02-08-2009, 07:02 PM
That was a good win and a very entertaining game.
Go the Power.
On the down side Cassisi apparently fractured his skull :(
Sweating Bullets
02-08-2009, 07:13 PM
Good thing that the Bombers lost.
Hawks might have a chance to make the 8 if they beat the Saints.
sheeps
02-08-2009, 07:17 PM
My money's on Port taking 8th spot.
This makes me super sad, Port have often had the game over us though. Both us and the bombers have to face St. Kilda, where as the worst Port has coming up is in either Carlton or the Lions I'd say.
The game at the Gabba is easily our 'toughest' game in the last month. I've already pencilled in a win against the Blues if they continue in the current form (plus we've been really good at AAMI this season).
I just did a ladder predictor and had the Bulldogs slip to fifth (Pies and Crows in at three and four respectively), and the Lions playing the Power up at the Gabba in an elimination final. Blues in at eight, with Hawks and Bombers just missing out.
I'd take that. :p
AFL Dream Team
overall ranking: 9 of 290,584
That is an extraordinary effort IRS. And the Pies are going alright as well. You must be pretty happy with all things AFL.
RunningMild
02-08-2009, 08:57 PM
Yeah, because the fact that you won't get one suddenly means it's an awesome system. Anyone with half a brain is outraged by the priority pick system.
Thompson said the system was flawed because we were set to get a first round priority pick three seasons after winning a Grand Final.
Now we're not getting a priority pick, ergo the system is fine according to Thompson. :p
Um, he was talking about the possibility of it happening. Therefore, still flawed.
Still, given how spoilt Thompson has been with the father/son rule (which just happened to be modified for greater equality after they were able to exploit it to the full extent), I don't really think he's in any position to whinge about the draft. :p
The father/son rule isn't a reward for mediocrity though.
The father/son rule isn't a reward for mediocrity though.
Fair point, and I agree that the priority pick is stupid, but it's still a bit rich for him to come out and say that after he got a bunch of elite players by exploiting a different rule with similar effects.
Spazzallo
03-08-2009, 12:36 AM
As long as they don't change the father-son rule in the next 10 years I'm happy. It shall be the second coming of Voss!
As long as they don't change the father-son rule in the next 10 years I'm happy. It shall be the second coming of Voss!
The way it is now (altered so that other teams can put their hand up for the player, forcing the father/son team to take him before the other team's pick) should have been introduced years ago. That Geelong were able to get Bartel and co. and allow Ablett to slip into the third round in the one draft in retrospect is ridiculous. Thompson might have been swimming in mediocrity for years longer if he didn't get the swag of players through it.
If the AFL are so terrified about abolishing the priority pick all together, instead of giving the team(s) another in the first round, just move it back to the third. They're still getting another player that can contribute and possibly be a star, but it probably won't be so valuable that teams would be bottoming out left, right, and centre.
RunningMild
03-08-2009, 01:33 AM
The way it is now (altered so that other teams can put their hand up for the player, forcing the father/son team to take him before the other team's pick) should have been introduced years ago. That Geelong were able to get Bartel and co. and allow Ablett to slip into the third round in the one draft in retrospect is ridiculous. Thompson might have been swimming in mediocrity for years longer if he didn't get the swag of players through it.
If the AFL are so terrified about abolishing the priority pick all together, instead of giving the team(s) another in the first round, just move it back to the third. They're still getting another player that can contribute and possibly be a star, but it probably won't be so valuable that teams would be bottoming out left, right, and centre.
The whole purpose of the priority pick is to help awful teams rebound quicker. At the moment, the only way to rebuild is through the draft.
Therefore:
A: Introduce free agency, allowing struggling teams to bounce back much quicker
B: Scrap priority picks now that there's no need for them
Problem solved.
Super Mario
03-08-2009, 07:23 AM
Essendon's midfield in 2025:
Hird, Hird, Hird
[m]averick
03-08-2009, 02:42 PM
The way it is now (altered so that other teams can put their hand up for the player, forcing the father/son team to take him before the other team's pick) should have been introduced years ago. That Geelong were able to get Bartel and co. and allow Ablett to slip into the third round in the one draft in retrospect is ridiculous. Thompson might have been swimming in mediocrity for years longer if he didn't get the swag of players through it.
He didnt really get a swag. Maybe three at most. Geelong have also bombed out through the father-son as well. Plenty of duds no longer there. Moreover, there was every chance Ablett wasnt going to make it. And, one of them didnt.
I thought the old system was good. Teams should be able to pick up sons of guns cheaply. Third round was too extreme though. Second round wouldve been about right.
averick;1098831']He didnt really get a swag. Maybe three at most. Geelong have also bombed out through the father-son as well. Plenty of duds no longer there. Moreover, there was every chance Ablett wasnt going to make it. And, one of them didnt.
They've bombed out plenty with father/son selections? I'm not up to speed on all things Geelong-related so I could very well be wrong, but I don't know of many duds they've picked up over the last twenty years using the rule. I'm not saying they didn't deserve to get two decade-long superstars out of the system, but looking back on the higher picks they also were able to keep - Bartel, Kelly, and Johnson before Ablett, able to get Selwood before Hawkins, etc. - downright crazy.
N. Ablett may have only played three seasons or so, but he was also hugely integral to their premiership campaign in '07 (booted three in the GF ffs). For a guy taken at the bottom of the third round - I wouldn't necessary label that a big disappointment.
grimace06
03-08-2009, 03:35 PM
They've bombed out plenty with father/son selections? I'm not up to speed on all things Geelong-related so I could very well be wrong, but I don't know of many duds they've picked up over the last twenty years using the rule. I'm not saying they didn't deserve to get two decade-long superstars out of the system, but looking back on the higher picks they also were able to keep - Bartel, Kelly, and Johnson before Ablett, able to get Selwood before Hawkins, etc. - downright crazy.
N. Ablett may have only played three seasons or so, but he was also hugely integral to their premiership campaign in '07 (booted three in the GF ffs). For a guy taken at the bottom of the third round - I wouldn't necessary label that a big disappointment.
Geelong Father Son selections
1997 - Matthew Scarlett (pick 45)
2001 - Gary Ablett Jr (pick 40)
2003 - Mark Blake (pick 38)
2004 - Nathan Ablett (pick 48)
2006 - Tom Hawkins (pick 41)
2007 - Adam Donohue (pick 60)
Incidentally, Collingwood haven't done too badly with father/son over the last few years either... ;)
N. Ablett may have only played three seasons or so, but he was also hugely integral to their premiership campaign in '07 (booted three in the GF ffs). For a guy taken at the bottom of the third round - I wouldn't necessary label that a big disappointment.
Not all that many in the scheme of things that day really... :p
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