View Full Version : Thread of Guitar Hero and general complaining about Activision
AranchineD
17-07-2009, 02:41 PM
For any Guitar Hero related news or bragging or complaining about track lists or getting excited about track lists and asking for help about whether you have to hold the buttons AND strum at the same time, this is now the place. And to kick things off:
The GH5 drum kit:
http://redoctane.us/storeblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/gh5_wiidrum1.jpg
http://redoctane.us/storeblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/gh5_wiidrum2.jpg
Good to see they copied the RB kit and put a bar between the feet of the kit to stick the pedal on, so it doesn't ****ing slide all over the floor when you try to play a song. And the larger pads and cymbals should make playing easier.
But of course then they go and put the d-pad and other buttons right where you can accidentally smash them every five second, and Activision would never sell the drums on their own and you'd only be able to buy them in a full band box meaning there's no way in hell that I'll buy ANOTHER guitar and microphone just for it.
But it looks nice!
naclj
17-07-2009, 04:10 PM
i actually put a spare guitar strap through the middle of the foot peddle and tied it to my drum stool, this way the foot peddle still has some movement but wont drift away during songs, or as some times happens in rock band, the entire kit drifts away.
lets just hope that the first bunch of these drums aren't completely bloody useless and work for more than a day.
Sweating Bullets
17-07-2009, 04:12 PM
Picture is not showing up Aran.
Mike-Towns
17-07-2009, 06:01 PM
So I left my GH 1, 2 and both guitars at a friends place a few towns over.
I found a World Tour PS2 guitar in Cash Converters, whammy bar doesn't work but it's $10. I can hire World Tour from a friends game store for a week for a few bucks.
Question 1: $10 worth it?
Question 2: What does the touch-pad on the guitar do?
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AranchineD
17-07-2009, 07:32 PM
Picture is not showing up Aran.
Hmm, yes, for some reason those pictures were taken down, this is all I seem to be able to find now:
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2442/ghwtgh5compheader580px.jpg
The picture looks crap but you can piece it together from my description above.
And yeah Mike, if you're not a crazy obsessive GH player like I am not being able to use the whammy won't really bother you, and the touch strip is useless in the game, don't worry about that. I also find the WT guitar is the most reliable of the guitars, but for some people it breaks easily for them, so it could go either way there.
Second
17-07-2009, 08:49 PM
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2442/ghwtgh5compheader580px.jpg
I actually like where the d pad and such is now. It's actually accessable. We'll see if I end up hitting it while I'm playing when the time comes.
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/100/1004316/GH52_1247763853.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/100/1004316/GH51_1247763822.jpg
Sytadel
19-07-2009, 01:01 AM
Tried to fix my LP today using Scorehero's no-solder fix (http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53749&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) and ended up with only the red fret working. Yeah, joy.
I wanted to save myself the time of buying a new one but it feels like I'll be ****iing around a lot. I probably got the wires back to front...
banjoeskimo
19-07-2009, 02:27 AM
If it makes you feel any better, the strumming/whamming of the GHWT guitar (and presumably the very minor update of the GH5 guitar) does feel significantly better than the Les Paul, so if you do end up getting a new one it'll at least feel like an upgrade.
Apparently they just refined the strumming mechanism (presumably so it doesn't squeak/fail) and changed the touch pad a little bit to make it friendlier. Other than that, identical to the WT model.
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/07/gh5axe.jpg
Silverwolf
19-07-2009, 02:52 AM
85 songs by 83 artists.
Amazing!
Munky
19-07-2009, 11:18 AM
I may have to buy that guitar.
I don't think my WT model is functioning correctly and I really want to play Free Bird using the slider.
Spudzilla
19-07-2009, 11:25 AM
The touch pad is useless. I've never bothered with it at all and I've done fine.
Also I beat Through The Fire And Flames and The Devil Went Down To Georgia again the other day.
Sytadel
19-07-2009, 11:41 AM
If it makes you feel any better, the strumming/whamming of the GHWT guitar (and presumably the very minor update of the GH5 guitar) does feel significantly better than the Les Paul, so if you do end up getting a new one it'll at least feel like an upgrade.
It's remarkably hard to find the GH:WT guitar on its own anywhere, at least in Perth. There are no bundles I can justify buying as I have all the games. I've seen standalone Les Pauls at a few places for $60, but that's pretty steep.
Going to open up the LP and give it another go today.
Munky
19-07-2009, 12:05 PM
The touch pad is useless. I've never bothered with it at all and I've done fine.
Also I beat Through The Fire And Flames and The Devil Went Down To Georgia again the other day.
I agree the touch pad is mostly useless but Freebird would be epic with it as would be any Allman Brothers songs.
The entire intro to Freebird is done with a slide guitar and Duane Allman was the msater.
Manny M
20-07-2009, 10:52 PM
So after not touching my drum kit since it died back in December, my mate came around and fixed it by stripping the wire on the red drum and taping it down... seems to work fine.
Oh, but what's this? Now my GHWT guitar won't register a strum down? Brilliant!
*grumbles*
banjoeskimo
21-07-2009, 12:37 AM
That's a very common issue, I had to send mine back to RedOctane for repair. And pay the shipping... cheap bastards.
Mike-Towns
21-07-2009, 02:07 AM
Been playing GH:3...the whole 'battle' thing kinda sucks.
/backslash
21-07-2009, 02:23 AM
Been playing GH:3...the whole 'battle' thing kinda sucks.
I can't get past the last boss on Easy, damn guy keeps on cheating!
grimace06
21-07-2009, 05:01 AM
I stand firm in my belief that the X-plorer was the best Guitar Hero guitar (came with GH II on 360).
dimorphic
21-07-2009, 07:18 AM
I only noticed the other day that My Curse by Killswitch Engage in GH3 is different to the album version. It's not a cover it is performed by them. I find that weird.
AranchineD
21-07-2009, 08:52 AM
I stand firm in my belief that the X-plorer was the best Guitar Hero guitar (came with GH II on 360).
I thought so too until I used the World Tour guitar, can't go back now.
I only noticed the other day that My Curse by Killswitch Engage in GH3 is different to the album version. It's not a cover it is performed by them. I find that weird.
Actually that happens with a lot of songs in the games, cover or otherwise, just makes them fit in with the game better I suppose.
Second
21-07-2009, 05:01 PM
One of the Queen songs from the DLC has a bit extra to it too. It freaks me out.
AranchineD
22-07-2009, 11:10 AM
http://www.destructoid.com/exclusive-guitar-hero-5-challenges-revealed-140210.phtml
With Guitar Hero 5, Neversoft is also looking to add considerable replay value and depth to both on-disc tracks and its downloadable content, in the form of song “Challenges.”
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For each song challenge, the game presents three tiers of difficulty -- Gold, Platinum, and Diamond. The challenges for the on-disc songs are specific to those individual tracks. Players are told what the song-specific challenges and tiers are before starting a song, so they know they know their goals before they begin. As they play the song and begin working towards the challenge, a “record” icon shows up next to the note highway and begins to fill in. When it fills in all of the way, the center of the record will turn Gold, acting as a marker to let players know they’ve at least obtained gold status.
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But you’re probably going to want to nail them, not just for personal satisfaction, but to obtain all of Guitar Hero 5’s unlockable items, characters, venues, and in-game instruments. Gone is the cash earned to purchase unlockables, replaced by the challenges and stars earned to mark your career progression. Completing the aforementioned “Fame” challenge and achieving “Platinum” unlocks the “Sartorial Eloquence” outfit for Guitar Hero rocker Johnny.
As such, Bright says that you’ll be able to earn a total of nine stars while playing these challenges.
“You can get between one and six stars on a song,” he tells us. “You’d have to play really bad to get one, and you’d have to play perfect for six. Then you can earn an extra three stars by earning the different levels of those Gold, Platinum, and Diamond challenges.”
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In addition to the song-specific gigs, the career mode will feature open gig challenges. In these open challenges, real-world sponsors (which Neversoft and Activision aren’t naming just yet) offer up challenges geared toward specific instruments. In these gigs, any song from the game disc or downloadable content can be chosen to complete the challenge. Choosing the correct songs will be key.
And some "examples" of these challenges:
"Song 2" - Blur
Band - Score as many points as possible
* Gold = 500,000 points
* Platinum = 1,000,000 points
* Diamond = 2,000,000 points
"Sex On Fire" - Kings of Leon
Band - Refill the Star Power Meter as many times as possible
* Gold = 300% star power fills
* Platinum = 450% star power fills
* Diamond = 800% star power fills
"Gamma Ray" - Beck
Bassist - Hit as many notes as you can only strumming up
* Gold = 340 note
* Platinum = 540 note
* Diamond = 695 notes
"Runnin' Down a Dream" - Tom Petty
Guitarist - Whammy the sustains as long as possible
* Gold = 30 seconds
* Platinum = 60 seconds
* Diamond = 80 seconds
Most of the challenges are just "play a song really good" but the last two, along with a few others I didn't post, seem interesting because you'd be doing something you wouldn't normally do.
So basically GH5 is going to have about 500 achievements. Great.
jawsy
22-07-2009, 12:53 PM
They had to mix up the manner in which you go about completing the game somehow, and this looks to be their way. Shifts the focus toward 'get really good at this song', as opposed to Rock Band's 'just keep playing with someone...anyone'.
Works for me.
twofivefour
22-07-2009, 01:56 PM
I only noticed the other day that My Curse by Killswitch Engage in GH3 is different to the album version. It's not a cover it is performed by them. I find that weird.
It's to do with the version of the master tracks that is provided to the developers. Sometimes the album version can't be found or supplied, and an earlier version or re-recorded version has to be used.
You'll notice that songs that normally fade out have "new" endings to them - Enter Sandman is a good example.
And extra challenges within a song are good, but is it going to become too distracting as you play? It's not just another meter on screen, but another set of actions to focus on.
AranchineD
22-07-2009, 01:58 PM
Yeah, could be distracting, I'm hoping it's just a little meter in the corner of the screen or something, or you can turn it actually appearing off and you just see at the end of the song if you succeeded in a challenge or not.
And actually this may break my habit of only playing a few songs once and never again, if I want to get all the challenges, I meant end up liking a song I didn't before but didn't give it a chance to grow on me or something.
fearofthesky
22-07-2009, 08:15 PM
It's remarkably hard to find the GH:WT guitar on its own anywhere, at least in Perth. There are no bundles I can justify buying as I have all the games. I've seen standalone Les Pauls at a few places for $60, but that's pretty steep.
Going to open up the LP and give it another go today.
Guitar Hero: Metallica is 88 bucks with guitar at Dick Smith right now. You should be able to get a few bucks for the game on ebay, maybe 30-40.
Also, EB have both Metallica and World Tour guitar packs for 99.
I still cannot believe there is no option to buy a WT guitar seperately!
Watchers
22-07-2009, 08:47 PM
I just saw Gamma Ray and was like 'Yes!', then saw it was the Beck song and was like ':('
Mike-Towns
22-07-2009, 09:56 PM
Guitar Hero: Metallica is 88 bucks with guitar at Dick Smith right now. You should be able to get a few bucks for the game on ebay, maybe 30-40.
Also, EB have both Metallica and World Tour guitar packs for 99.
I still cannot believe there is no option to buy a WT guitar seperately!
Harvey Norman in the city here had GH:3 + Guitar and GH: Aerosmith + Guitar packs for $49.
Sytadel
22-07-2009, 10:23 PM
I managed to repair my GH3 guitar, actually. I'm thinking I might do a paint job or something for shits and giggles one weekend.
I'm glad GH:5 is coming out soon, looking forward to having a drum kit + two guitars. I had one good Guitar Hero party when the game came out, before everything broke, so hopefully I can make them a regular fixture amongst friends.
Second
01-08-2009, 04:29 PM
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/07/guitar-hero-5-gets-full-xbox-360-avatar-support/#more-347544
Avatar support? Interesting.
AranchineD
01-08-2009, 04:40 PM
But...won't that mean the animations for the band members will become even more jerky and stilted and just plain shit?
Second
01-08-2009, 04:47 PM
Yes! But it'll be MY avatar! :D
jawsy
01-08-2009, 05:04 PM
I don't see how the avatars would gel with the already established visual direction of the series. Unless of course your choices are 'existing characters' and 'avatars for all'.
That being said, it would sure save me the hassle of designing a character for each iteration of the game. :P
AranchineD
01-08-2009, 05:10 PM
I never design my characters in any Guitar Hero games, Judy Nails for life!
Second
01-08-2009, 05:25 PM
I make a new version of Randolph every game.
GH:WT Randolph is wearing the Dragon stuff and has facepaint on.
GH:GH Randolph is wearing leather and has a ponytail.
GH:M Randolph just looks like a shaggy roadie.
RB Randolph is a whitehaired god of perfection. <3
I'd like that new kit, if the cymbals actually work on it this time. However, fearing that they won't, I'll probably just get the RB:Beatles kit if it comes out over here any time soon. Having said that, you can get the full GH:WT instrument pack for ~$200 now, so if I wait until then, I'll probably snap and get that.
Second
01-08-2009, 05:48 PM
I reckon I might get the new kit as well. I just don't know where I'm going to put all this stuff.
I wish I'd never bought the first one, it's ****ing rubbish. The rule is: NEVER BUY THE FIRST ITERATION OF A HARDWARE!
Second
01-08-2009, 05:53 PM
Thankfully, I got mine when they were $200. (h)
Thankfully, mine works perfectly and has ever since.
Thankfully, mine works perfectly and has ever since.Can you tap lightly on a cymbal to make it register?
/backslash
01-08-2009, 07:34 PM
Bought GH World Tour Complete for a friend today, will be able to try out his stuff next weekend :D
Can you tap lightly on a cymbal to make it register?
yup. every pad registers with the lightest tough.
Jabbz
02-08-2009, 12:25 PM
Might be a dumb question, but should I pre order GH5 when it comes out, or spend the extra $50 and buy World tour with a complete band set?
AranchineD
02-08-2009, 03:16 PM
Under the assumption that the GH5 instruments are actually going to work for the most part, I'd say pre order GH5 and the instruments, and buy World Tour separately if you really want to.
Jabbz
03-08-2009, 09:45 AM
Having a look at the EB site, I'm under the impression it comes with just a guitar, is that right? ANywhere else I should look, apart from the awesome Hyperonians?
Second
08-08-2009, 01:42 PM
Heard a rumour about WT songs being able to be exported to Guitar Hero 5.
AranchineD
08-08-2009, 04:11 PM
Why would you want to though?
:D
Second
10-08-2009, 05:39 PM
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/08/guitar-hero-5-lets-you-import-older-guitar-hero-songs/
You liked it in Rock Band, now like it in Guitar Hero, as Activision have announced that the upcoming Guitar Hero 5 will let users import older songs from previous games for use in the new title.
Songs from both World Tour and Smash Hits will be able to be carried over into GH5. Though there’s a catch: it won’t be free (and Activision haven’t yet revealed the pricing for this service). As for your downloaded songs, of the 158 World Tour songs currently available, 152 of them will work right away with GH5, though again, precise details (like which tracks aren’t compatible) aren’t available.
StorminNorman
10-08-2009, 05:45 PM
You have to pay for the same feature in Rockband 2. It's like 400 Microsoft Monopoly Moneys or thereabouts.
Halt, Hammerzeit
10-08-2009, 06:37 PM
You have to pay for the same feature in Rockband 2. It's like 400 Microsoft Monopoly Moneys or thereabouts.
Yeah, but you didn't have to for the AC/DC RB disk. You just had to download every single song instead of importing them from the disk for some reason.
I've been using my WT drum kit to play rock band with and I swapped the orange and yellow cymbals a while back because the yellow wasn't working too well. I went to play Smash Hits last night and discovered that it's now not working at all. Does anybody know what the warranty period is with GHWT drums?
AranchineD
10-08-2009, 08:05 PM
90 days from purchase, I think.
FrozenSoul80
10-08-2009, 08:14 PM
Yeah, all GH peripherals have a three month warranty, which is woefully short.
Manny M
11-08-2009, 09:16 AM
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/08/guitar-hero-5-lets-you-import-older-guitar-hero-songs/
What the ****?! It won't be free? We've already paid for the game, they're just giving us the convenience of not having to swap games. That should be a free feature they implement to keep up with the competition.
What a load of horse shit.
Halt, Hammerzeit
11-08-2009, 09:23 AM
What the ****?! It won't be free? We've already paid for the game, they're just giving us the convenience of not having to swap games. That should be a free feature they implement to keep up with the competition.
What a load of horse shit.
As was said before, to import songs from RB1 to play in RB2, you had to pay 400 MS points, but you didn't have to for RB AC/DC.
banjoeskimo
11-08-2009, 09:59 AM
What the ****?! It won't be free? We've already paid for the game, they're just giving us the convenience of not having to swap games. That should be a free feature they implement to keep up with the competition.
What a load of horse shit.
It's a lisencing fee. Activision and EA have to pay to put their content into a second game as it constitutes a new "use" of the song. I would assume that the reason for this is because when you buy the rights to a song you're only buying the rights for a single use.
As for AC/DC, I'm guessing EA learned from RB1 and built that into the price of the disc. Furthermore, I'm extremely confident that AC/DC didn't originally start out as a disc-based game, which is why when you export it's just a DLC pack.
Harmonix have been very adamant about maintaining Rock Band as a "platform" rather than a series of disc based titles, hence the ridiculous amount of support for DLC. My guess is that somewhere in the negotiations with AC/DC's label they made demands for their own game and threatened to go elsewhere if they weren't met. This would explain why AC/DC is such a lazy standalone game when compared with other RB titles, and would also fit in with AC/DC's other demands (that the game only be sold at Wal-Mart in the US, for instance.) So, a bullshit move, but the cost of doing business I guess.
Shorty
11-08-2009, 04:13 PM
At least Activision are implementing song importing. They've got a bit of catching up to do with Harmonix on that front.
Second
11-08-2009, 04:15 PM
It's a lisencing fee. Activision and EA have to pay to put their content into a second game as it constitutes a new "use" of the song. I would assume that the reason for this is because when you buy the rights to a song you're only buying the rights for a single use.
As for AC/DC, I'm guessing EA learned from RB1 and built that into the price of the disc. Furthermore, I'm extremely confident that AC/DC didn't originally start out as a disc-based game, which is why when you export it's just a DLC pack.
Harmonix have been very adamant about maintaining Rock Band as a "platform" rather than a series of disc based titles, hence the ridiculous amount of support for DLC. My guess is that somewhere in the negotiations with AC/DC's label they made demands for their own game and threatened to go elsewhere if they weren't met. This would explain why AC/DC is such a lazy standalone game when compared with other RB titles, and would also fit in with AC/DC's other demands (that the game only be sold at Wal-Mart in the US, for instance.) So, a bullshit move, but the cost of doing business I guess.
AKAIK, they released it as a disc as apparently AC/DC only wanted it released as one big pack, instead of single tracks.
StorminNorman
11-08-2009, 05:59 PM
Harmonix have been very adamant about maintaining Rock Band as a "platform" rather than a series of disc based titles.
This is why I'm really uncomfortable about Rock Band Beatles.
AranchineD
12-08-2009, 11:07 PM
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/08/guitar-hero-5-music-studio-impressions-jamming-with-bach-and-rimsky-korsakov/#more-349542
Impressions of the music studio for GH5. It seems songs no longer sound like they were made on a $15 Kasio Keyboard bought from a reject shop and the UI is actually useful and easy to follow now, sounds decent.
aubergine
12-08-2009, 11:26 PM
AKAIK, they released it as a disc as apparently AC/DC only wanted it released as one big pack, instead of single tracks.
ACDC have always been douchebags with their music rights, I'm amazed they even had the game at all.
On which topic, I saw it for $35 at a music shop in Brisbane the other day. Wasn't sure if that was good value or not, it seemed like it was just an 18-song add-on disc. I considered buying it for kareoke though (don't have GH4/RB instruments)
Have the Lips mics been patched to work with these games yet? Otherwise I need to somehow find a USB mic, which hasn't been an obvious find in shops (not that I've tried very hard.)
banjoeskimo
24-08-2009, 06:24 AM
So I just downloaded a the "Gameplay Features" trailer for GH5 off XBL, and um... well, it kinda cracked me up. It highlighted three "new" features in GH5, which appear to be direct rips of the Rock Band game design, except two years too late.
"Save Bandmates" is the ability to use star power to save failed bandmates.
"Star Power Overflow" is the ability for everyone to activate star power at once, with their own star power meters (instead of the shared star power pool in WT)
"Band Moments" is a feature where everyone gets a series of flaming notes, and if everyone hits them, the whole band receives a star power boost.
So pretty much they changed the star power design to match Rock Band's overdrive, added in the save bandmate feature of Rock Band, and then threw in a variant of Rock Band's "Unison Bonus" for good measure.
Don't get me wrong, I think it makes for a better game, but damn guys, RB1 was out before World Tour even hit the market. You're a bit late to the game. And releasing a trailer bragging about your "new" gameplay features? Well that's just f---ing hilarious.
Shorty
24-08-2009, 07:39 AM
Well in their defense, the series does have one feature that Rock Band hasn't yet managed to implement - timely Australian releases.
Azzaman
24-08-2009, 09:50 AM
I can't believe they still haven't released it. what has it been 2 years now? I'm not complaining, I have my copy of rb2, my drums seem to be holding up well enough and I can access all the dlc.
I was thinking about picking up gh5 when it gets released, it's next month right? Though I played gh3 briefly yesterday and was reminded of how much the note charts suck balls.
Shorty
24-08-2009, 11:10 AM
I can't believe they still haven't released it. what has it been 2 years now? I'm not complaining, I have my copy of rb2, my drums seem to be holding up well enough and I can access all the dlc.
It's coming up on a year now, actually. Which is the same as RB1 and that's the problem. I had hoped that MTV/HMX had learned from last time and not decided to hand Activision a massive lead in Australia again.
AranchineD
24-08-2009, 11:12 AM
It's coming up on a year now, actually. Which is the same as RB1 and that's the problem. I had hoped that MTV/HMX had learned from last time and not decided to hand Activision a massive lead in Australia again.
Hell, The Beatles: Rock Band already has a release date here!
Shorty
24-08-2009, 11:28 AM
Hell, The Beatles: Rock Band already has a release date here!
Let's see if they can stick to it because their track record isn't exactly stellar, so far.
So I just downloaded a the "Gameplay Features" trailer for GH5 off XBL, and um... well, it kinda cracked me up. It highlighted three "new" features in GH5, which appear to be direct rips of the Rock Band game design, except two years too late.
"Save Bandmates" is the ability to use star power to save failed bandmates.
"Star Power Overflow" is the ability for everyone to activate star power at once, with their own star power meters (instead of the shared star power pool in WT)
"Band Moments" is a feature where everyone gets a series of flaming notes, and if everyone hits them, the whole band receives a star power boost.
So pretty much they changed the star power design to match Rock Band's overdrive, added in the save bandmate feature of Rock Band, and then threw in a variant of Rock Band's "Unison Bonus" for good measure.
Don't get me wrong, I think it makes for a better game, but damn guys, RB1 was out before World Tour even hit the market. You're a bit late to the game. And releasing a trailer bragging about your "new" gameplay features? Well that's just f---ing hilarious.
Isn't Overdrive merely an extension of the original star power idea anyway? Who's stealing from whom?
Second
24-08-2009, 11:43 AM
Yeah, they're stealing from one of their previous games...
Azzaman
24-08-2009, 11:55 AM
Isn't Overdrive merely an extension of the original star power idea anyway? Who's stealing from whom?
Harmonix made it originally. Neversoft are stealing it.
twofivefour
24-08-2009, 02:35 PM
Seems more like "We're changing our system to be more in line with the other system because people like it," rather than stealing.
And they're new features. For the Guitar Hero franchise. Which they inherited and tried to "improve".
/devil'sadvocate
Halt, Hammerzeit
24-08-2009, 03:52 PM
What's the difference between 'imitation' and 'copyright infringment'? Because I think Activision might have that definition downpat.
AranchineD
24-08-2009, 03:58 PM
You know, everyone is right, I'd rather the game stick with the shit system, because at least then it can say it isn't copying anyone.
Azzaman
24-08-2009, 04:04 PM
Oh, I'm not saying they need to stick to a crappy system. I just think they should call a spade a spade, it's not a new feature.
AranchineD
24-08-2009, 04:07 PM
Well yeah, of course, but I can live with a little development padding and lying if the result is a better game overall.
banjoeskimo
24-08-2009, 04:20 PM
I just find it amusing that for a trailer highlighting the game's new features (of which there are actual new features, such as the mixing and matching of instruments and comprehensive competitive modes), the only ones they listed were from RB. C'mon... it took them four games to catch up to a game that's two years old. That's at least a little funny. :p
But yeah, better game, glad they did it, etc etc.
AranchineD
24-08-2009, 04:25 PM
I just find it amusing that for a trailer highlighting the game's new features (of which there are actual new features, such as the mixing and matching of instruments and comprehensive competitive modes), the only ones they listed were from RB. C'mon... it took them four games to catch up to a game that's two years old. That's at least a little funny. :p
But yeah, better game, glad they did it, etc etc.
You know, I think the really funny thing (and simultaneously the really sad thing) would be the thousands of people who actually think these are original GH features!
It'd probably be especially true in Australia where hardly anyone did actually buy Rock Band and wouldn't know better. >_>
Sytadel
25-08-2009, 10:41 PM
I don't like Activision any more than the next guy, but they actually release their games here so - go them. They can steal all the features they like from Harmonix because if they didn't, they're features we'd never see!
Anyway - does anyone know if retailers here will be stocking GH5 with the new instruments? EB is only advertising game/game+guitar, I'd like the whole band kit as I only have 1 functional les paul, no drums, and no mic.
aubergine
25-08-2009, 11:04 PM
I think the band kit was a nightmare for retailers everywhere so the prospect of stocking GHIV, GHV, Rock Band, Rock Beatles Band and maybe even Rock Band 2 at some point would make getting into EB like playing Arkanoid.
Halt, Hammerzeit
26-08-2009, 08:16 AM
Got a replacement drum cymbal for free (thank you Activision) and chucked GH Greatest Hits in for another go. I must say it's a fairly boring game. I played two of the mid-range sets consisting of 12 songs, but only really got into 2 or 3 of them. It just doesn't have the feel of RB. The big thing I love about RB is the look and feel of it. Hell, even things like the crowd singing along to the song when you're doing well. GHGH just feels like an empty shell.
That said, I loved playing Free Bird on drums :P
AranchineD
26-08-2009, 08:21 AM
I think the band kit was a nightmare for retailers everywhere so the prospect of stocking GHIV, GHV, Rock Band, Rock Beatles Band and maybe even Rock Band 2 at some point would make getting into EB like playing Arkanoid.
I think EB have already said they definitely won't be stocking the full kit for The Beatles: RB, and I assume every other RB game from now on. They should have full kits for GH though.
Got a replacement drum cymbal for free (thank you Activision) and chucked GH Greatest Hits in for another go. I must say it's a fairly boring game. I played two of the mid-range sets consisting of 12 songs, but only really got into 2 or 3 of them. It just doesn't have the feel of RB. The big thing I love about RB is the look and feel of it. Hell, even things like the crowd singing along to the song when you're doing well. GHGH just feels like an empty shell.
That said, I loved playing Free Bird on drums :P
if you're playing rhythm games for the look, you're doing it completely wrong.
Halt, Hammerzeit
26-08-2009, 06:35 PM
if you're playing rhythm games for the look, you're doing it completely wrong.
Yeah, but you can't deny that how the game looks (ie RB's transparent note charts as opposed to GH's solid and how GH is brighter than RB) add to playing the game.
AranchineD
26-08-2009, 07:48 PM
TBH neither of those things contribute anything at all to my experience of the games. Well, except for the fact that a few times I've actually screwed up with the RB note highway because I got confused between the background colours and the notes themselves.
Second
26-08-2009, 08:05 PM
TBH neither of those things contribute anything at all to my experience of the games. Well, except for the fact that a few times I've actually screwed up with the RB note highway because I got confused between the background colours and the notes themselves.
I've given up on GH2 because of the bloody highway.
AranchineD
26-08-2009, 08:10 PM
And yet that's the one with which I haven't had a single problem with the entire time I've been playing music rhythm games.
twofivefour
26-08-2009, 08:21 PM
I haven't had a problem with any of the highways so far, although going back to GH2 after the others takes a little getting used to.
And I have to lean towards Hammerzeit's opinion here - the visual aspect, while not overly important, can still affect my enjoyment of the game, and I prefer the polished classic rock look of the Rock Band series as opposed to Guitar Hero's pub & stadium rock feel. 3's poor quality models were really distracting at first.
But I'll still play them, as long as I'm enjoying the songs.
FrozenSoul80
26-08-2009, 08:24 PM
Actually, the crowd singing along in Rock Band is pretty cool. I like it.
Spudzilla
26-08-2009, 08:34 PM
But more importantly, it's much better to play with RB's lights than GH's round gems.
AranchineD
26-08-2009, 08:40 PM
See, I prefer the round gems as well in GH as well. For some reason I have a extreme amount of trouble recognising repeated notes in RB when they're really close to each other, and how fast I'm meant to play them. Or maybe that's because I'm not used to playing without hyperspeed...
And I know I'm probably the only person this happens with but because the note highway in RB isn't actually straight and flat, it's slightly curved, I sometimes think an orange or green note is a HO/PO when it's not, and sometimes I think either the orange or green light is a standalone note when it's actually part of a chord.
Sytadel
26-08-2009, 10:28 PM
See, I prefer the round gems as well in GH as well. For some reason I have a extreme amount of trouble recognising repeated notes in RB when they're really close to each other, and how fast I'm meant to play them. Or maybe that's because I'm not used to playing without hyperspeed...
Yeah, I never fully got used to that either. E.g. I tend to fail pretty hard at Lamb of God, even though I know by listening to it that I'd easily be able to handle a song at that speed in GH. I still feel flat gems make more sense though; it's flat, representing a moment in time. I agree re: convex highway though.
Also, I've recently decided I've "plateaued" with my GH skill. I can only play about half an hour 2-3 times a week now, and I'm simply not improving (though I'm not getting any worse). In the last two months, I've gotten a bit better at anchoring and alt-strumming with changing frets (e.g. Blood + Thunder); but that's it. I'm not moving any faster and I'm worse at some things (e.g. quick chord switches and fast triplets).
AranchineD
27-08-2009, 08:41 AM
Also, I've recently decided I've "plateaued" with my GH skill. I can only play about half an hour 2-3 times a week now, and I'm simply not improving (though I'm not getting any worse). In the last two months, I've gotten a bit better at anchoring and alt-strumming with changing frets (e.g. Blood + Thunder); but that's it. I'm not moving any faster and I'm worse at some things (e.g. quick chord switches and fast triplets).
I think the best thing to do when that happens (and it did happen to me for a while) is to actually just find a bunch of new songs to play. Whether you buy another GH game, or get more RB DLC, doesn't matter, but I remember I was going through the same thing just before GH: Metallica came out, wasn't really getting anywhere or getting better on World Tour or Rock Band, but when I got onto playing GH: Metallica, having to play purely on instinct on my first time playing all the songs improved my skills quite a bit. Went back to WT and five starred the last few songs I couldn't before.
I think the problem people get is when they play for the entire purpose of trying to improve their skills, and they get into their head that "I know this song by now, I know exactly what to do" and they get stuck in a rut. Having to learn something new to play seems to fix that problem.
Jabbz
27-08-2009, 08:55 AM
In terms of the visuals, I find that I only take note of them when I'm actually not playing and watching someone else play. When I'm playing, and granted it may be that I'm still fairly new to it all, I concentrate on the highway and how well I'm going, thats really about it to be honest.
Spudzilla
28-08-2009, 10:19 PM
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Second
28-08-2009, 10:23 PM
It's more like a video clip instead of a gig. Interesting. I like it.
Spudzilla
28-08-2009, 10:24 PM
Finally, I can pretend to be Geddy Lee and Greg Lake in one game.
AranchineD
28-08-2009, 10:27 PM
Holy. ****.
Spudzilla
28-08-2009, 10:34 PM
More King Crimson, plz (like it'll happen)
Cobain's inclusion in GH5 is a travesty, and worse- he looks awful.
AranchineD
29-08-2009, 12:22 PM
Who cares if Cobain is in the game?
jawsy
29-08-2009, 01:41 PM
Similar sentiment. Travesty? Err...
AranchineD
29-08-2009, 04:55 PM
If Cobain in GH5 is a travesty then Hendrix in World Tour must have been an event rivaling the crucifixion of Jesus or something.
If Cobain in GH5 is a travesty then Hendrix in World Tour must have been an event rivaling the crucifixion of Jesus or something.Hendrix probably shouldn't have been in there either. But Cobain and Activision being used in the same sentence is a ****ing disgrace. His whore ex-wife cashing in on his image, that's all it is.
I'm stunned that people are using the image of a dead rock star to make money. Simply stunned. :p
AranchineD
29-08-2009, 07:10 PM
Hendrix probably shouldn't have been in there either. But Cobain and Activision being used in the same sentence is a ****ing disgrace. His whore ex-wife cashing in on his image, that's all it is.
But having two dead Beatles in Rock Band is perfectly acceptable and not a case of using their images to make money at all, I suppose, right?
But having two dead Beatles in Rock Band is perfectly acceptable and not a case of using their images to make money at all, I suppose, right?The Beatles had their image on everything. They're one of the most marketed bands of all time. They were hardly anti-consumerist as a band. Plus, that project is more than a game, it is a lovingly crafted tribute. As opposed to a poorly-modeled mannequin being dragged out for a few tunes. It's just a cheap marketing ploy, and nobody could argue that Cobain would be happy with it, whereas I can't see Lennon or Harrison being unhappy with the treatment they're receiving from Harmonix.
Michael Jackson could be put into any game you like, because he was a fan of games, and also had his name attached to any old shit. Cobain was against what his appearance in this franchise represents. It's farcical, even macabre.
Shorty
30-08-2009, 03:58 AM
The Beatles had their image on everything. They're one of the most marketed bands of all time. They were hardly anti-consumerist as a band. Plus, that project is more than a game, it is a lovingly crafted tribute. As opposed to a poorly-modeled mannequin being dragged out for a few tunes. It's just a cheap marketing ploy, and nobody could argue that Cobain would be happy with it, whereas I can't see Lennon or Harrison being unhappy with the treatment they're receiving from Harmonix.
Michael Jackson could be put into any game you like, because he was a fan of games, and also had his name attached to any old shit. Cobain was against what his appearance in this franchise represents. It's farcical, even macabre.
Funny you should mention that... (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/35002/New-Michael-Jackson-game-in-the-works)
AranchineD
30-08-2009, 12:14 PM
Cobain was against what his appearance in this franchise represents. It's farcical, even macabre.
Wow.
Well at least I know for sure now that Cobain's gimmick worked on some people. A man who didn't actually do anything worthwhile compared to other dead artists in these games but because HE PLAYED BY HIS OWN ROOOOOOLZ MAAAAN HE ISN'T A NARC , well, that's a different story entirely!
Sytadel
30-08-2009, 02:46 PM
I agree Cobain's inclusion is silly but it's not like he's around to care about it (though apparently some fans are).
Stevorooni
08-09-2009, 07:59 AM
So GH5 is out next week, any word on if the instruments are cheap pieces of crap that break this time?
Sytadel
08-09-2009, 10:20 AM
So GH5 is out next week, any word on if the instruments are cheap pieces of crap that break this time?
Apparently they're not, but they're also not coming to Aus.
Stevorooni
08-09-2009, 11:26 AM
I've seen the guitar pack advertised here, but no drums :(
Although JB will have the Rock Band Beatles full pack for... $350
big_b
09-09-2009, 03:58 AM
I fail to see how Cobain is a 'Guitar hero'. Sure he was an awesome song writer. But guitar hero he aint.
Wow.
Well at least I know for sure now that Cobain's gimmick worked on some people. A man who didn't actually do anything worthwhile compared to other dead artists in these games but because HE PLAYED BY HIS OWN ROOOOOOLZ MAAAAN HE ISN'T A NARC , well, that's a different story entirely!I didn't buy into anything. I didn't even start listening to Nirvana's music at all until, oh, August last year, and only have a couple of their albums. Don't make me out to be some kind of over-sensitive Cobain fan. I can't, however, abide by your saying he "didn't actually do anything worthwhile". If you don't consider their music or influence to be worthwhile, then either you have an amazingly high opinion of Jimi Hendrix, or you're just an idiot.
John Lennon and George Harrison have received a very lovingly crafted tribute at the hands of Harmonix. There are more profitable bands that they could have based a game on, too. Rock Band: Nirvana would be a bigger seller. And if they did make that game, I'm sure they'd pay Cobain more respect than he's receiving here. The depiction is just an awful, cheap cash-in.
It's not about how Cobain feels, because he's dead. It's about the ridiculous irony of Activision using him as a shoddy cash in. It would be like featuring John Lennon in Brutal Legend. Che Guevara tee-shirts mass-produced in sweat shops.
Cool trolling, bro.
big_b
09-09-2009, 06:37 AM
Rock Band: Nirvana would be a bigger seller.
I beg to differ on that one. The Beatles have sold more albums than Nirvana ever will and quite simply just reach out to a much bigger audiance.
Tonez
09-09-2009, 07:32 AM
I guess you're expecting 60 and 70 year olds to buy Rock Band: Beatles?
banjoeskimo
09-09-2009, 07:37 AM
Actually my grandfather-in-law is picking up a PS3 for that exact purpose. Dude's 70 and never touched a game in his life.
... not that I'm expecting that'll happen a lot, but I think Beatles RB has, potentially, a wider appeal than regular RB and GH do.
I beg to differ on that one. The Beatles have sold more albums than Nirvana ever will and quite simply just reach out to a much bigger audiance.Nirvana sold more albums to people who, y'know, actually buy consoles and games. 'Kids these days' don't listen to the Beatles all that much; some people might have a copy of The Beatles in their "collection" for the sake of credibility, but most won't care for the game. Take this forum, for example. Some Beatles fans, sure. But the vast majority, being geeks (:p) would listen to metal, ie. the sort of songs that appear in GH. GH: Metallica is much better suited to the target audience. If it had been a full-on production like RB:B, it probably would have sold even better. The 20-30 crowd who buy these games the most listen to a hell of a lot more Nirvana than they do The Beatles.
In my opinion, they should stop this single band crap. The Metallica library isn't strong enough to support a whole game. They should start releasing GH: Metal or GH: Alternative, along the same lines as Rocks The 80's or the RB Country Pack, but better. A GH: Hard Rock disc with 60 tracks from Metallica to Gunners, a bit of Kashmir, all of the metal stuff that I don't listen to. Most of it would appeal to one kind of person, as opposed to trying to please everyone. Get an indie one with Killers and Franz Ferdinand and Oasis and all of those bands on a different disc so that I'd be happy, and the metal fans don't have to play through it.
It's not about how Cobain feels, because he's dead. It's about the ridiculous irony of Activision using him as a shoddy cash in. It would be like featuring John Lennon in Brutal Legend.
I don't think you know what irony means.
In my opinion, they should stop this single band crap. The Metallica library isn't strong enough to support a whole game.
and yet GHM is an amazing game where almost every song is fun to play. hmmm.
I don't think you know what irony means.
and yet GHM is an amazing game where almost every song is fun to play. hmmm.
I wouldn't call 28 songs a whole game, but I guess that's just me.
oh, I see you don't know. in future, use a dictionary first plz.
you're aware GHM has 50 songs, aren't you? my point was, if all 28 metallica songs are fun to play, hmmm, maybe there is enough to support a full game, as there's many songs I'd love to see there. but you keep on with your ACTIVISION IS THE MAN MAAAAN, HARMONIX PLAYS IT ALL UNDERGROUND N SHIT MANG.
[edit] is it just me, or is blue trying to be me now? it's a decent tribute, but there's only one lex mate.
Watchers
09-09-2009, 11:45 AM
[edit] is it just me, or is blue trying to be me now? it's a decent tribute, but there's only one lex mate.
This. Though I think we can do without the original Lex as well.
:p
big_b
09-09-2009, 04:16 PM
I guess you're expecting 60 and 70 year olds to buy Rock Band: Beatles?
The beatles music appeals to everyone. Its timeless.
Nirvana sold more albums to people who, y'know, actually buy consoles and games. 'Kids these days' don't listen to the Beatles all that much; some people might have a copy of The Beatles in their "collection" for the sake of credibility, but most won't care for the game. Take this forum, for example. Some Beatles fans, sure. But the vast majority, being geeks () would listen to metal, ie. the sort of songs that appear in GH. GH: Metallica is much better suited to the target audience. If it had been a full-on production like RB:B, it probably would have sold even better. The 20-30 crowd who buy these games the most listen to a hell of a lot more Nirvana than they do The Beatles.
As I said above, the Bealtes music appeals to all ages groups and there is only a very very small minority of people who ever say The Beatles are crap (and usually its because they think their cool if they do, not because they dont like the music).
With all their albums getting reissued (i think this month?) there is huge potential there for a whole new generation of fans to pick up on it. Which is why I think it would outsell a nirvana based game. Nirvana were a grunge band. A alternative rock band. Gaming has gone massively mainstream in the past few years, especially with the wii. It makes sense.
This is all rudundant tho as there isnt a nirvana game coming out.
jawsy
09-09-2009, 06:09 PM
(and usually its because they think their cool if they do, not because they dont like the music).
Please stop saying stupid things.
grimace06
09-09-2009, 06:33 PM
Please stop saying stupid things.
If people followed this rule the thread would be 2 pages long.
AranchineD
09-09-2009, 07:09 PM
Look, I was wrong before to say Cobain is famous for contributing absolutely nothing to music, that title well and truly goes to Thom Yorke.
grimace06
09-09-2009, 07:28 PM
Look, I was wrong before to say Cobain is famous for contributing absolutely nothing to music, that title well and truly goes to Thom Yorke.
*High fives Aran*
Wait...now I'm part of the prob--ahh shit.
AranchineD
09-09-2009, 07:38 PM
What have I done?
big_b
10-09-2009, 02:32 AM
Please stop saying stupid things.
that was a pretty stupid thing to say. Either way tho...
Beatles > Nirvana > Thom Yorke
Xanafalgue
10-09-2009, 02:33 AM
Yoko Ono > Beatles
grimace06
10-09-2009, 02:50 AM
The only other band this treatment would work with is U2.
They have a large library of relatively well-known music.
They went through their own experimental stage without travelling to India.
They played in a variety of interesting venues.
All this = win.
yeah, but like, U2 are shit.
AranchineD
10-09-2009, 10:08 AM
Well they're shit now.
That said some novelty could be gained if they put Vertigo in the game and the person singing just replaces all the lines with HELLO HELLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOO YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH HELLO HELLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOO YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH
Cicada
10-09-2009, 02:34 PM
Not to mention it would be pretty boring playing this on Guitar Hero.
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StorminNorman
10-09-2009, 10:57 PM
His whore ex-wife cashing in on his image, that's all it is.
So anyway, it turns out that Courtney Love is furious (http://kotaku.com/5356206/courtney-love-will-have-her-revenge-on-activision) over Cobain's image appearing in GH5.
AranchineD
10-09-2009, 10:59 PM
She was probably high off her face when signing the contract anyway.
Sytadel
10-09-2009, 11:17 PM
I must admit, seeing a stilted Cobain model clap his hands while singing Bon Jovi has made me see to Blue's thinking - that is a really downright trashy and wrong use of a dead man's image. Tool was around to make sure their songs/art would be used appropriately, it's a shame Cobain doesn't have that luxury. If Love is furious, I wonder who to blame for this?
If Love is furious, I wonder who to blame for this?
At some point I swear they were talking about Loves involvement with his likeness in the game. Even if thats not true surely Activision are a big company and surely they got this likeness signed off by the people who matter. I will be interested to see how this turns out.
I must admit, seeing a stilted Cobain model clap his hands while singing Bon Jovi has made me see to Blue's thinking - that is a really downright trashy and wrong use of a dead man's image. Tool was around to make sure their songs/art would be used appropriately, it's a shame Cobain doesn't have that luxury. If Love is furious, I wonder who to blame for this?Thank you.
I don't know how people can watch it and think "yeah, if I were dead, I'd be happy if this happened to me."
big_b
11-09-2009, 03:25 AM
Well maybe cobain shouldnt have shot himself in the head?
And maybe his chronic stomach ulcers should have been properly diagnosed and treated before he became addicted to heroin
big_b
11-09-2009, 05:44 AM
well its not like he couldnt afford health insurance.
AranchineD
11-09-2009, 06:41 AM
Thank you.
I don't know how people can watch it and think "yeah, if I were dead, I'd be happy if this happened to me."
If I were dead, I wouldn't really care.
Because I'd be dead.
Stevorooni
11-09-2009, 06:56 AM
Activision has a big fat contract with Courtney's big fat signature on it (http://kotaku.com/5356726/activision-courtney-love-signed-cobain-contract-for-guitar-hero-5). Uh ohs.
StorminNorman
11-09-2009, 08:57 AM
Curiouser and curiouser...
god I'm sick of this ******ry, you become a rock icon and the face of a generation? your image is public ****ing property. don't like being a TOOOOL OF THE MAAAAN MAAAAN? that's a shame, but you wouldn't have sold a record if you weren't already.
and anyway, who's to say he wouldn't be in the game if he were alive? he obviously made some brilliant decisions then.
twofivefour
11-09-2009, 12:02 PM
And maybe his chronic stomach ulcers should have been properly diagnosed and treated before he became addicted to heroin
They were diagnosed, he was recovering, he was in a good place during his last interview. Things got worse, unfortunately.
I must admit, seeing a stilted Cobain model clap his hands while singing Bon Jovi has made me see to Blue's thinking - that is a really downright trashy and wrong use of a dead man's image. Tool was around to make sure their songs/art would be used appropriately, it's a shame Cobain doesn't have that luxury. If Love is furious, I wonder who to blame for this?
Love would be to blame. Hendrix's estate put tight restrictions on his likeness and use in Guitar Hero. If Love isn't willing to read the contract and demand those conditions, it's her own damn fault - of course Activision is going to exploit this property once they have it. They shouldn't, but it's a foregone conclusion with that company.
Thank you, joint legal voice of Krist and Dave, for making a level-headed request. Too late, sadly.
If I were dead, I wouldn't really care.
Because I'd be dead.I knew you'd say that.
If I told you now that I was going to **** your corpse, you wouldn't care when you were dead, but you sure as **** wouldn't be happy about it now.
Halt, Hammerzeit
11-09-2009, 03:25 PM
Damn right. Because he's not dead.
AranchineD
11-09-2009, 03:27 PM
I knew you'd say that.
If I told you now that I was going to **** your corpse, you wouldn't care when you were dead, but you sure as **** wouldn't be happy about it now.
Nope, still wouldn't give a shit. I'd be dead, it would then just be a pile of skin and bones, why would I have any attachment to it then?
banjoeskimo
11-09-2009, 03:50 PM
Guitar Hero 5: Less exciting than conversations about necrophilia.
AranchineD
11-09-2009, 03:53 PM
That goes for everything in life though, right?
Right?!
;_;
Azzaman
11-09-2009, 04:13 PM
Guitar Hero 5: Less exciting than conversations about necrophilia.
should be on the back of the box
Sytadel
12-09-2009, 12:51 AM
god I'm sick of this ******ry, you become a rock icon and the face of a generation? your image is public ****ing property. don't like being a TOOOOL OF THE MAAAAN MAAAAN? that's a shame, but you wouldn't have sold a record if you weren't already.
My problem isn't so much feeling bad for Cobain's sake; I'm a pretty logical guy and like most people find it hard to pity a dead person any more after something happened to them. My problem is more just that Cobain singing that particular song looks so profoundly wrong and out of place, like if all the characters were suddenly replaced with American presidents.
I don't have any qualms with a Cobain character singing Nirvana songs.
Shorty
12-09-2009, 01:31 AM
My problem isn't so much feeling bad for Cobain's sake; I'm a pretty logical guy and like most people find it hard to pity a dead person any more after something happened to them. My problem is more just that Cobain singing that particular song looks so profoundly wrong and out of place, like if all the characters were suddenly replaced with American presidents.
In GH3 the "special guests" were shown in the proper context. You'd "battle" Tom Morello or Slash and then you'd play a Bulls on Parade or Welcome to the Jungle but you didn't see anything really weird like Ozzy Osbourne singing La Bamba.
Queenie
12-09-2009, 09:32 AM
so since they have night elves, can you make a female night elf that dances like alizee while you play guitar?
AranchineD
12-09-2009, 10:05 AM
In GH3 the "special guests" were shown in the proper context. You'd "battle" Tom Morello or Slash and then you'd play a Bulls on Parade or Welcome to the Jungle but you didn't see anything really weird like Ozzy Osbourne singing La Bamba.
And by 'weird' you mean '****ing hilarious' right? >_>
Second
12-09-2009, 10:14 AM
In GH3 the "special guests" were shown in the proper context. You'd "battle" Tom Morello or Slash and then you'd play a Bulls on Parade or Welcome to the Jungle but you didn't see anything really weird like Ozzy Osbourne singing La Bamba.
I pissed myself laughing the first time I saw it.
Sytadel
12-09-2009, 12:26 PM
I didn't actually know you could do that with Ozzy (don't play vocals), but that's interesting. It's somewhat more appropriate than Cobain because Ozzy was/is sort of intentionally absurd and hilarious a lot of the time.
Second
12-09-2009, 01:40 PM
I didn't actually know you could do that with Ozzy (don't play vocals), but that's interesting. It's somewhat more appropriate than Cobain because Ozzy was/is sort of intentionally absurd and hilarious a lot of the time.
Final tier of songs in career has most of the celebs playing together.
igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!
12-09-2009, 03:22 PM
When I'm dead I hope they put me in every videogame singing Bon Jovi songs
AranchineD
15-09-2009, 11:37 AM
Ah man, saw these for sale at JB today
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/i/c/pg/39043156/logitech-guitar-hero4.jpg
None for 360 though. :( Wish I had a PS3 and money to waste.
...wait that was a bit redundant.
Wish I had a PS3.
Cobla
15-09-2009, 11:41 AM
So is the game out already??
AranchineD
15-09-2009, 11:46 AM
GH5?
I thought it was, but every shop I've visited has still had it in 'Coming Soon' boxes.
Cobla
15-09-2009, 11:49 AM
Oh right. Yeah the release date is supposed to be tomorrow. I thought because you'd seen the kit that they'd started selling early, but ~meh~
Anyway out of interest did you notice how much JB wanted for the drums? I'm gonna get a kit sooner or later...
AranchineD
15-09-2009, 11:53 AM
Oh, that's not the GH5 kit, it's a standalone one that Logitech make.
Didn't get a good look at the price though, I think they were kinda expensive though, the number was definitely three digits. >_>
Cobla
15-09-2009, 12:10 PM
Oh okay cool. They look pretty good in the pic at least. Especially how each part seems to be movable, that's important IMO
Azzaman
15-09-2009, 12:32 PM
considering it's $350 for the logitech guitar I'd be expecting the price to be nearly 4 digits on the drums...
Cobla
16-09-2009, 01:20 PM
So I just bought GH5 and got it home. First thing I did was try and import some songs over from GH:WT
Only problem? Activision didn't actually print a code in the white panel on the back of my World Tour manual! :mad: Bastards.
So I called their $2.50 a min support line only to be told "we've never heard of that before" and then was basically given the runaround.
Anyone else got a blank panel on their WT manual?
Pai Mel
16-09-2009, 01:25 PM
There is a sticker with the code on mine.
jawsy
16-09-2009, 07:32 PM
Same here.
Just finished up giving GH5 an opening bash. It may be the little things, but this seems like a nicely polished game and the best entry in the genre I have come across so far. Songs aren't really up my alley (7 or 8 that I actually listen to) but they all seem relatively enjoyable to play. I can also see how they would be a whole heap of fun once you add a few buddies and start mixing up instruments (hello Saturday). More of a RB vibe to the set list as opposed to what you would normally expect from a GH game.
Oh, and I think I got six achievements for completing the first song.
Stevorooni
17-09-2009, 08:15 AM
Might pick this up tonight. Still not sure which platform I'll get it for though.
On the 360 I'm already fairly invested, with GH2, 3, WT and 2 guitars so I could get away with just buying the disc only version. But I no longer trust my 360 not to die. Last week the disc drive thought that a game was a dvd, it hasn't happened again since but I don't know if it's the beginning of the end, and I'm certainly not forking out $150 for Microsoft to swap out a $20 drive if it eventually dies.
But if I buy it for PS3 then I'll have to buy more guitars too... argh
I wouldn't mind a drumkit too, I noticed that Harvey Norman have the full Rock Band kit with Rock Band AC/DC for $134
DECISIONS DECISIONS, make the decision for me Hyperoonis
Cobla
17-09-2009, 09:34 AM
Well my 360 is probably gonna die soon (it has issues) but I reckon I'll just buy a new one when that happens. (My 3 years is up and I'm sick of having a console that sounds like a jet engine.)
Also like you I don't have any instruments for PS3 so it was a bit of a no brainer. But if you're not gonna replace your 360 when it dies then *shrug* I dunno. Seems a risky proposition!
Anyway I played a fair bit of GH5 last night and was thoroughly impressed. The party play mode is brilliant and the note 'runway' seems a bit longer (a problem with World Tour imo). Also lots of little tweaks here and there, and the ability for others to drop in whenever or change difficulty on the fly are long overdue.
I'm warming to the set list too. I mean there was probably 10 tracks that I really wanted but like Jawsy I've found many of others quite fun to actually play, even if I would never listen to them otherwise (I'm looking at you, Sublime). There's some real gems in there though. I particularly like the Elliot Smith song (pretty much my favourite one of his)
naclj
17-09-2009, 10:14 AM
played a bit of this last night.
wasn't that impressed really (just gone off GH from WT onwards)
the song list doesn't appeal to me at all and with the massive song pile i have for RB2 i really wont buy another GH game i think.
i do like being able to have any config of instruments though and being able to save play lists is a feature i wish RB had, that said i dont like the way music is listed, we imported WT and hits last night and had lots of trouble finding the songs we wanted, im sure you'll get used to it but its not very streamlined in my opinion.
the career isnt really any different than a list of songs but i really do like the song specific challenges, they would definitely add to the longevity.
playing 4 ppl with no vocals can be quite difficult without a huge TV especially as when star power, band moments and doing badly all create extra distractions on the screen that make it really hard for the two side players to see their notes.
when the band isnt doing too well a red haze creeps in from the sides and actually blocks the left or right most notes of the side players.
i certainly think its better than WT but if like me you are dedicated to RB there is nothing here that will convert you but if you still like GH then this should be great fun.
Second
17-09-2009, 05:03 PM
I got it today and gave it a quick shot. I guess I'm just too used to Beatles as... the game just seems so ugly. I might play it some more on the weekend, but for now I'll give it a rest. It's just not catching me.
StorminNorman
17-09-2009, 05:24 PM
Zombie Kurt Cobain is enough to prevent me from ever buying this game.
Thraxas
17-09-2009, 05:36 PM
Zombie Kurt Cobain is enough to prevent me from ever buying this game.
I have a band who are all Kurt Cobain.
Stevorooni
17-09-2009, 08:32 PM
Grabbed this for 360 (disc version - I have enough guitars!)
Only had a quick play of it because I'm being The Beatles' bitch but it looks like more of the same which can't be too bad. My avatar looks fricken ridiculous though
Manny M
17-09-2009, 09:01 PM
I love the look of those Logitech drums, though at $300 US i'm not going to bother buying them.
I'm really in two minds about adding to my band collection... I think all the trouble i've had with the peripherals has turned me off wanting to continue with it.
Sytadel
18-09-2009, 12:22 AM
GH5 is the first game I didn't buy. I'm going to repair my 2nd Les Paul and just hammer out the games I've got now I think (GH3, WT, GH:M, RB1, RB2, some RB DLC); there's a good 200+ songs there so I'll never not be able to find a chart I want to play.
What was all this about only being able to import 35 songs from the WT setlist and not the whole thing?
AranchineD
18-09-2009, 01:07 AM
Well, from what I heard, you can only import 35 songs from the WT setlist into GH5, and not the whole thing.
Second
18-09-2009, 05:28 AM
And smash hits too.
Stevorooni
18-09-2009, 08:10 AM
and they want to charge for it!
I'd prefer to just swap discs
It adds doublekicks to certain songs, which is worth it alone for me.
[edit] wait, no tool songs? boo hiss. loving this game though, activision finally seem to be doing some things right again.
Thraxas
18-09-2009, 09:03 AM
And smash hits too.
And the songs available for transfer are not even the ones I want to play.
Really enjoying the note charts so it makes playing songs I wouldn't normally listen to fun. I also like how you get 6 stars for FCing a song.
Well, even though I hate the WT tracklist as a whole, the idea of having all of those extra songs in GH5 was a selling point. I may not even bother at this point, considering I barely played WT at all.
Cobla
18-09-2009, 12:09 PM
Well if anyone has a WT code they don't want I'm still looking for one. (My booklet has only a blank space where the code should be)
Activision support has so far proved completely useless. :rolleyes:
Spazzallo
18-09-2009, 02:13 PM
Well if anyone has a WT code they don't want I'm still looking for one. (My booklet has only a blank space where the code should be)
Activision support has so far proved completely useless. :rolleyes:
Kmart is your friend :) All those open boxes with booklets waiting to be looked at!
Really enjoying this sof ar. Progression is a lot more fun than in previous games :)
Second
18-09-2009, 03:13 PM
Kmart is your friend :) All those open boxes with booklets waiting to be looked at!
Really enjoying this sof ar. Progression is a lot more fun than in previous games :)
... That's terrible. You're terrible.
naclj
18-09-2009, 04:41 PM
... That's terrible. You're terrible.
we (and by we i mean me and a couple friends, not me as i don't actually own GH5)
"MIGHT" have done something similar at a video store nearby on Wednesday evening
Pai Mel
18-09-2009, 07:51 PM
... That's terrible. You're terrible.
I agree. Some kid is going to buy that game and find the code has already been used. Don't hurt the kiddies.
Just start an "I Hate Activision" campaign. Go to gaming forums and tell everyone your story. Post up photos of the back of your manual with the missing sticker code and tell everyone how Activision's customer support was just arse. Not just on Hyper but all the gaming forums you can find. It will make you feel better in the end.
Will probably pick up GH 5 tomorrow. Getting it from Big W as my sister gets employee discount. :)
Second
18-09-2009, 08:36 PM
Man, hammer ons and pull offs. Really ****ed in GH5 or what? They seem really tight compared to the rest of the other notes.
Stevorooni
18-09-2009, 08:48 PM
Started playing this tonight and I've only just realised I'd been playing for 3 hours straight.
My hand hurts :(
Spazzallo
18-09-2009, 08:54 PM
... That's terrible. You're terrible.
It will make them think twice about their shitty system.
My comment was a bit out of line but I got served by a stupid whore last night at the shit hole.
Second
18-09-2009, 09:16 PM
... Worse than Piracy. You're actively stealing it from someone else. You're going to prevent someone that actually paid for it to get the content.
Spazzallo
18-09-2009, 09:18 PM
As I said I was out of line and in a shit mood.
AranchineD
18-09-2009, 09:37 PM
Man, hammer ons and pull offs. Really ****ed in GH5 or what? They seem really tight compared to the rest of the other notes.
So, like, they went back to the tight timing for HO/POs that GH2/RB has?
Second
18-09-2009, 09:46 PM
Normal notes seem to be as loose as your mother, but the hammer ons and pull offs seem to be as tight as a 12 year old's anus.
AranchineD
18-09-2009, 09:49 PM
I now understand in full, accurate detail the note timing system used in Guitar Hero 5.
I now understand in full, accurate detail the note timing system used in Guitar Hero 5.Which would also suggest that you understand in full, accurate detail the levels of elasticity of your mother's vagina and a 12 year-old's anus …?
Sytadel
18-09-2009, 11:35 PM
Pretty sure that's what he's implying. A clumsy faux pas for most forumers is comedic self-degredation for Aran!
I'm just annoyed that now I'm wondering whether a 12 year-old's anus is really that much tighter than an adult's.
But it's still better than discussing Guitar Hero. Zing.
AranchineD
18-09-2009, 11:48 PM
You would be right Blue, as indeed I learned all my knowledge regarding those particular characteristics from the same person.
Sytadel
18-09-2009, 11:55 PM
Found out that those swish Xbox 360 wireless logitech guitar controllers are available from an obscure PC store in perth... tempting... >_>
More tempting than GH5 anyway!
When was it that Moggo ****ed your mother?
Manny M
18-09-2009, 11:58 PM
Don't do it!
... how much?
AranchineD
19-09-2009, 12:02 AM
When was it that Moggo ****ed your mother?
http://uyac.com.au/forum/images/smilies/bizarro123.gif
Don't do it!
... how much?
I daresay they'd be above or around $300.
Sytadel
19-09-2009, 12:02 AM
Don't do it!
... how much?
About $360! That's more than what I paid for my musical keyboard and it's close to $400 off my digital piano budget (well, sort of) which just feels so wrong.
AranchineD
19-09-2009, 12:08 AM
See, I could see myself paying that price for the drum kit, but not the guitar.
Sytadel
19-09-2009, 01:01 AM
See, I could see myself paying that price for the drum kit, but not the guitar.
Holy shit, I just checked - they have that too! Now that is tempting. It's only a little more than the guitar too... hmm...
Well, obviously the drum kit would be the better value proposition, but I couldn't drop $400 on a kit that doesn't function as a real kit.
AranchineD
19-09-2009, 11:00 AM
Well the way I figure it I didn't buy GH:Aerosmith, GH:Greatest Hits, GH5, RB:AC/DC or The Beatles:RB, there's enough monetary value there to make up for that drum kit!
Second
19-09-2009, 11:32 AM
Well the way I figure it I didn't buy GH:Aerosmith, GH:Greatest Hits, GH5, RB:AC/DC or The Beatles:RB, there's enough monetary value there to make up for that drum kit!
But you have less games that will make use of it! :o
AranchineD
19-09-2009, 02:00 PM
But I don't really want to play any of them anyway, so it's all good!
JubeiSaotome
19-09-2009, 02:04 PM
So, I'd have to say that GH5 is a vast improvement over every other GH game. Still hating on the way you activate star power on drums, though. Oh, and the save system is SOOOO much better than Rock Band's now. That said, I still love Rock Band, due to DLC.
AranchineD
19-09-2009, 02:12 PM
TBH I don't have a problem with activating star power on drums anymore, since when you do hit the two pads, whatever note is playing at the time will be automatically hit, so I just do it in time to normal playing and it works fine.
Munky
19-09-2009, 02:26 PM
TBH I don't have a problem with activating star power on drums anymore, since when you do hit the two pads, whatever note is playing at the time will be automatically hit, so I just do it in time to normal playing and it works fine.
Does this mean that if you hit the two symbols intstead of say a blue drum it will still count as hitting the blue note?
AranchineD
19-09-2009, 02:29 PM
Does this mean that if you hit the two symbols intstead of say a blue drum it will still count as hitting the blue note?
Yep, that's right.
It's a little unreliable in World Tour, actually, but in GH:Metallica, and I'm assuming GH5, that's what happens everytime.
Spazzallo
19-09-2009, 02:47 PM
Does anyone know where to get a cheap microphone for this game from? $50 for the official one is pretty damn steep.
Sytadel
19-09-2009, 04:04 PM
Gave in and bought GH5 + guitar this morning, as I only have one functioning Les Paul and I hear this guitar is really well built. Will hold off on the nice drums, I think... I'd sooner by RB:B than get the logitech drums.
Does anyone know where to get a cheap microphone for this game from? $50 for the official one is pretty damn steep.
Any USB microphone will do, can get em for $20 or so from lots of places.
REQUIEM
19-09-2009, 09:38 PM
I own the GH guitar and the GHWT band set and Im pissed to see yet another yearly update of instruments. Its either a money making scheme or just SHIT prouduct development before inital release. I paid $300 for GHWT a year ago and its already updated FFS.
ScToTeE
19-09-2009, 09:43 PM
That's why you need to manipulate a sibling into getting a 360, then convince them to get Guitar Hero along with all the associated instruments. :D
StorminNorman
19-09-2009, 09:57 PM
I own GH2, GH3, GHWT, RB1, RB2 and RB:Beatles, yet only have an Xplorer, a GHWT guitar and the RB1 drums.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that nothing's forcing you to buy new instruments when each game comes out.
REQUIEM
19-09-2009, 10:04 PM
I own GH2, GH3, GHWT, RB1, RB2 and RB:Beatles, yet only have an Xplorer, a GHWT guitar and the RB1 drums.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that nothing's forcing you to buy new instruments when each game comes out.
I wont be buying anymore instruments bar the djhero setup but its just crap that they make improvements when the R&D should have been done right, after all we had to wait so long. I CBF buying RB 1 instruments when the USA had RB2 improved instruments before we recieved Rb1. Its when they make improvements a year in is what gets me.
Spazzallo
20-09-2009, 12:25 AM
Gave in and bought GH5 + guitar this morning, as I only have one functioning Les Paul and I hear this guitar is really well built. Will hold off on the nice drums, I think... I'd sooner by RB:B than get the logitech drums.
Any USB microphone will do, can get em for $20 or so from lots of places.
Cheers for that.
Just found out you can actually use the Xbox Live headset! I should read instruction manuals more often! :p
I wont be buying anymore instruments bar the djhero setup but its just crap that they make improvements when the R&D should have been done right, after all we had to wait so long. I CBF buying RB 1 instruments when the USA had RB2 improved instruments before we recieved Rb1. Its when they make improvements a year in is what gets me.The GH5 instruments are almost identical to the previous incarnations. Which are almost identical to the original GH controller.
What you're saying is stupid. Nobody is forcing you to buy a new model of anything, but if advancements were never made, we'd all still be apes eating leaves. I don't know how old you are, but oneday, you're going to buy a car. Then, the year after you buy a car, they'll release a new model. Are you going to buy the new car, because all of a sudden its existence has made your car worthless? Of course not. Because they both do the same thing. The newer one is made for people who don't have the old one. You're annoyed because the presence of the new model has made you realise that the one you have isn't entirely perfect? What you're saying is the equivalent of somebody complaining about Henry Ford not getting it right in the first place with the Model T.
If a constant stream of slightly altered plastic guitar-shaped controllers is enough to have tears streaming down your cheeks, you need to realise something: Change is how progress is made. Maybe re-evaluate your priorities.
Besides, as everyone knows, the Explorer that came with GH2 is still the best GH peripheral that has been released, so the rest are irrelevant.
Pai Mel
20-09-2009, 01:14 AM
If you want an awesome geetar upgrade then go and buy a REAL one. But then you are faced with the dilemma of actually having to learn how to use it.
Stevorooni
20-09-2009, 09:01 AM
Cheers for that.
Just found out you can actually use the Xbox Live headset! I should read instruction manuals more often! :p
So did I! (Although I tried the USB headset I use on my PC and that wouldn't work on GH5 or Beatles RB :( ) Also by looking in this "instruction booklet" thingy for World Tour you can do it there too. I think I tried it once before but plugged the headset into the guitar rather than a standard controller so it didn't work.
Tried singing a few songs this morning (after I made sure all the doors and windows were closed >_>), I 5-starred Bon Jovi's "You Give Love a Bad Name" on Medium mostly because I pretty much knew the song already. 3 starred something else, failed a different song altogether.
But then I went all croaky and was dying for a drink, how do professional singers do this all the time?
But at least now I can attempt more than just guitar challenges.
Spazzallo
20-09-2009, 11:51 AM
Tried singing a few songs this morning (after I made sure all the doors and windows were closed >_>), I 5-starred Bon Jovi's "You Give Love a Bad Name" on Medium mostly because I pretty much knew the song already. 3 starred something else, failed a different song altogether.
But then I went all croaky and was dying for a drink, how do professional singers do this all the time?
I did a couple of songs last night but I whispered them into the microphone because I can't stand people hearing me sing :p.
The fact that you are allowed to sing an octave below really helps me ><.
I've been looking through the achievments and there are quite a few that I'll definitely need help over Live with (4 drummers, vocalists etc) so we should all add each other in the hope that one day we are all online at the same time so we can do them! :D
Stevorooni
20-09-2009, 07:54 PM
aaaand completed career mode... on Medium. 578 stars all up.
jawsy
20-09-2009, 10:55 PM
Yeah, I also finished the career today. Playing on hard and with a similar number of stars. I have to say, I quite enjoyed the playthrough (which is saying something, because normally career in GH feels like a real chore).
Stevorooni
21-09-2009, 08:26 AM
The last set of songs felt like a chore >_> Especially that 13 minute Peter Frampton song, although I was secretly hoping for an inflatable pig to come shooting out of a cannon ala Homerpalooza
JubeiSaotome
21-09-2009, 08:47 AM
Stranglehold by Ted Nugent felt like that in GHWT.
AranchineD
21-09-2009, 09:18 AM
Stranglehold was awesome, get out.
JubeiSaotome
21-09-2009, 09:23 AM
It was monotonous.
AranchineD
21-09-2009, 09:25 AM
Your face is monotonous.
Sytadel
21-09-2009, 08:37 PM
I disagree with both of you. It wasn't monotonous (the rhythms varied considerably), but it did have long periods of silence/easy sustains which were boring.
AranchineD
21-09-2009, 09:53 PM
Perhaps, but nothing that a little tapping on the guitar in time to the drums can't get you through. :D
Actually had a go at GH5 today, and surprisingly enough, it actually got me to want to play the game. I thought it looked great, the UI seemed fine to me, and Two Minutes To Midnight is just plain awesome. **** playing Children Of Bodom without Hyperspeed though. >_>
Second
21-09-2009, 10:02 PM
I find it weird playing without hyperspeed now. Certainly helps while playing on the lower difficulties, just because after playing Hard/Expert, learning the drums with such a slow speed is... frustrating.
Sytadel
21-09-2009, 10:23 PM
Perhaps, but nothing that a little tapping on the guitar in time to the drums can't get you through. :D
Actually had a go at GH5 today, and surprisingly enough, it actually got me to want to play the game. I thought it looked great, the UI seemed fine to me, and Two Minutes To Midnight is just plain awesome. **** playing Children Of Bodom without Hyperspeed though. >_>
Yeah I've been impressed with it so far too, I surprised myself a little. The UI is very nicely refined, the art direction is good, all the new post-5-star achievements are cool, the tour mode is nice and simple rather than trying to be ambitious like RB2... it really is like a more polished WT. And as someone with a few casual gamer friends, party mode + several people being able to play guitar is a godsend.
The GH5 guitar is also very nice, the dudes at scorehero are raving about it.
RunningMild
22-09-2009, 02:53 AM
I recently realised that I'm completely over Guitar Hero. Not out of protest, but purely out of boredom. I can't even be stuffed buying GH: Metallica, even though the setlist is brilliant and Metallica are the band that got me into metal in the first place.
GH5 doesn't interest me either. The drop-in drop-out campaign sounds great (especially since I had to start from scratch in WT with a solo campaign after beating half the game in co-op), but I don't think it's worth $100+.
The only thing that can bring me back atm is if they release a Running Wild DLC pack. Otherwise, meh. :p
EDIT: My GH WT guitar keeps dropping out in the middle of songs. Did the GH5 guitar fix that?
I recently realised that I'm completely over Guitar Hero. Not out of protest, but purely out of boredom. I can't even be stuffed buying GH: Metallica, even though the setlist is brilliant and Metallica are the band that got me into metal in the first place.
GH5 doesn't interest me either. The drop-in drop-out campaign sounds great (especially since I had to start from scratch in WT with a solo campaign after beating half the game in co-op), but I don't think it's worth $100+.
The only thing that can bring me back atm is if they release a Running Wild DLC pack. Otherwise, meh. :p
I found that after initially wanting WT badly I ended up never getting it because I just couldnt justify it anymore. 3 got thrashed at partys and I found I was somewhat over the entire thing a little bit after WT was released. That and there only being a handful of songs I was really interested in on each release. 5 has piqued my interest again but I think ill wait a month and find that like WT I just cant be bothered in the end.
If Activision made a GH:Metal game I would certainly pick that up but odds are slim of that happening.
EDIT: My GH WT guitar keeps dropping out in the middle of songs. Did the GH5 guitar fix that?
well your guitar is broken, a replacement WT tar would have fixed that.
also, Scatterbrain is the greatest thing to happen to the rhythm genre in a long time. that is all.
If Activision made a GH:Metal game I would certainly pick that up but odds are slim of that happening.
GH:Metallica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.html?curid=17738579)?
I can't say I recommend it, but it's almost the exact same name as what you were after.
RunningMild
22-09-2009, 04:09 PM
also, Scatterbrain is the greatest thing to happen to the rhythm genre in a long time. that is all.
Scatter wha?
GH:Metallica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.html?curid=17738579)?
I can't say I recommend it, but it's almost the exact same name as what you were after.
Lol not quite what Im after. Was thinking more along the lines of a GH with the Brutal Legend styled setlist. Lots of different metal bands in other words.
Lol not quite what Im after. Was thinking more along the lines of a GH with the Brutal Legend styled setlist. Lots of different metal bands in other words.
Like I said, it was all about the name. Regardless, it's not only Metallica songs, there are some other bands in there too (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_in_Guitar_Hero:_Metallica).
Your best bet would probably be to get Rockband 1 or 2 and get as much metal DLC as is available (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_list_of_downloadable_songs_for_the_Rock_B and_series). You can sort the shop by genre and hear previews of songs before you buy them. Or maybe look at the Metal Track Pack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Band_Metal_Track_Pack#Rock_Band_Metal_Track_P ack), if we can get it here.
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