Street Fighter IV - Friday Night Fights

[Manny M]

Tool-assisted = fail.

What does that mean exactly?

[StorminNorman]

It means that they used emulator techniques to freeze/reload the game until they got "perfect" runs of it.

Tool-assisted replays look awesome until you start noticing the slight glitches in them, and realise how mechanical and clinical they are.

[ElPresidente]

Go to a retail shop and ask them to import it for me?

And why do you suggest this? Have you done this before?

EDIT: I'd rather the HRAP EX SE over the HRAP EX because of the Seimitsu parts already installed on the HRAP EX SE.

Modding a HRAP to take Seimitsu parts is fine. You don't need to change the stick, just the buttons. The buttons just pop out and have quick disconnect wires so you can just lever them off with a flat head screwdriver and push them on to the new buttons. The wires are even colour coded... seriously couldn't be easier.

When I got my HRAP 3 I had the old buttons out and the new buttons in within 20 minutes. Would have taken significantly less time except I didn't have a socket set on me meaning getting to some of the nuts was a pain in the arse with just a little spanner.

www.in2amusements.com.au - Has a pretty extensive range of button options and are Australian based so you'll get them nice and quick for minimal cost. I've not used them personally but know a few who have and have had no complaints.

If you can't find what you are specifically after you can always try www.lizardlick.com which I have used and can attest to the quality of their service.

In addition, going the route of adding your own buttons gives you the option to have some fun with the colours.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~elpresidente/hrapmod01.jpg

Coloured for a GG/BB style layout - not that I need them coloured to know where to put my fingers. :P

You may note a slight bubbling of the plastic covering near the right hand corner bolt head. That wasn't a result of my efforts but a defect the stick came with.

[JubeiSaotome]

Go to a retail shop and ask them to import it for me?

And why do you suggest this? Have you done this before?


A friend was saying they did it last week and got one for around 250. But I think that was the SF4 TE stick, or whatever it is. The one that's similar to the pic above.

[SOX]

www.in2amusements.com.au - Has a pretty extensive range of button options and are Australian based so you'll get them nice and quick for minimal cost. I've not used them personally but know a few who have and have had no complaints.


I got all my parts for my custom (http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww353/soxinthebox/finish1.jpg) from that guy (he's Perth based). He was great and pretty quick to respond to questions and allows for pickup if you live in Perth to save on postage.

[ElPresidente]

You pic reminded me that I have promised myself this holidays I will complete the Litchi Faye-Lingcustom art job on my HRAP and... if I have time... my TE too.

[Starscream]

Modding a HRAP to take Seimitsu parts is fine. You don't need to change the stick, just the buttons. The buttons just pop out and have quick disconnect wires so you can just lever them off with a flat head screwdriver and push them on to the new buttons. The wires are even colour coded... seriously couldn't be easier.

When I got my HRAP 3 I had the old buttons out and the new buttons in within 20 minutes. Would have taken significantly less time except I didn't have a socket set on me meaning getting to some of the nuts was a pain in the arse with just a little spanner.

www.in2amusements.com.au - Has a pretty extensive range of button options and are Australian based so you'll get them nice and quick for minimal cost. I've not used them personally but know a few who have and have had no complaints.

If you can't find what you are specifically after you can always try www.lizardlick.com which I have used and can attest to the quality of their service.

In addition, going the route of adding your own buttons gives you the option to have some fun with the colours.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~elpresidente/hrapmod01.jpg

Coloured for a GG/BB style layout - not that I need them coloured to know where to put my fingers. :P

You may note a slight bubbling of the plastic covering near the right hand corner bolt head. That wasn't a result of my efforts but a defect the stick came with.

I thought about modding a HRAP if I didn't get the a HRAP EX SE. Picking the button colours you want does make HRAP look that much cooler.

I was considering only the HRAP EX SE for quick out of the box play and no modding.

Also did you mod your the joystick gate from a 4 way to an 8 way (octogonal) so you can do QCFs and 720 easier?

I'm only getting a HRAP EX because the d-pad on the 360 is crap for fighting games.

[Manny M]

It means that they used emulator techniques to freeze/reload the game until they got "perfect" runs of it.

Tool-assisted replays look awesome until you start noticing the slight glitches in them, and realise how mechanical and clinical they are.

But those combos are still possible to accomplish though, right?

[SOX]

Also did you mod your the joystick gate from a 4 way to an 8 way (octogonal) so you can do QCFs and 720 easier?

I don't know anyone who has put an octo gate in instead of a square gate. SFIV is kinda meant to be played with a square gate anyway cause most of the moves are more natural with the corners there (IMO)

[JubeiSaotome]

I'm currently using the Tekken 6 Wireless stick as a test bed for moving to Stick. It's got a square gate and works perfectly with who I use (Claw).

[StorminNorman]

But those combos are still possible to accomplish though, right?

I'll leave that for UC1 to answer definitively, but my guess is that they may require such strict timing as to either be impossible in real life or impractical to use.

[SOX]

Just means more practice. The meet-ups/comps I went to had dudes consistently pulling out 1 frame links and we were a bunch of scrubs (some more than others - like myself :P ).
I think you'll find if anything some of those combos are just a waste of metre because of damage scaling.

[Manny M]

Oh yeah, they're generally useless because an ultra with no damage reduction does the same damage, but that's not the point! It's just awesome to see that those kind of combos even exist. By generally playing the game, you really wouldn't think it possible.

BTW, in anticipation of Super, I suggest we plan a night to jump on and have a bash. Been far too long.

Any takers?

[Starscream]

I don't know anyone who has put an octo gate in instead of a square gate. SFIV is kinda meant to be played with a square gate anyway cause most of the moves are more natural with the corners there (IMO)
I've read that changing from a 4 way gate to an 8 way gate makes a hell of difference (i.e much easier to pull off those multi-combo- supers.)

That said, I ordered a HRAP EX (and a shitload more since I was going get raped on shipping) from PA.

[JubeiSaotome]

BTW, in anticipation of Super, I suggest we plan a night to jump on and have a bash. Been far too long.

Any takers?
if you own it on ps3, sure :3

[Manny M]

Sorry son, 360.

If these TE sticks were backward compatible between both consoles (for the price, they bloody well should've been) then i'd pick it up for PS3. But alas...

[UC1]

I'll just say this about TACVs for those interested, it's mainly about controlling both characters. There's a record and playback function in training mode which is alright, but it's not really good enough for certain things like clashes or chasing projectiles or getting hit by projectiles mid combo to reduce recovery. All those combos in the sonichurricane videos are possible, but without a programmable controller you'd need 2 people doing really specific stuff, sometimes with 1/60th second timing windows, several times in one combo. So I'd suggest not to look at the difficulty and execution because it doesn't really exist for this type of stuff, it's more about ideas like "what happens when a fireball and sweep hit at the same time" or "what's the highest amount of focus attacks I can do in one combo," and other things like that. If you look at just the damage, it can get a bit boring because there's only one best combo per given amount of meter, and all the ideas would run out very quickly. I've been messing around with this stuff myself and this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_lRihs6Icw) is my first attempt at a combo using scripts, it's just a variation of something in this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FpqBlCA8tc) video.

[Lex]

I thought it was just one post? Couldn't keep away, could you?

They always come crawling back.

[Second]

I'll just say this about TACVs for those interested, it's mainly about controlling both characters. There's a record and playback function in training mode which is alright, but it's not really good enough for certain things like clashes or chasing projectiles or getting hit by projectiles mid combo to reduce recovery. All those combos in the sonichurricane videos are possible, but without a programmable controller you'd need 2 people doing really specific stuff, sometimes with 1/60th second timing windows, several times in one combo. So I'd suggest not to look at the difficulty and execution because it doesn't really exist for this type of stuff, it's more about ideas like "what happens when a fireball and sweep hit at the same time" or "what's the highest amount of focus attacks I can do in one combo," and other things like that. If you look at just the damage, it can get a bit boring because there's only one best combo per given amount of meter, and all the ideas would run out very quickly. I've been messing around with this stuff myself and this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_lRihs6Icw) is my first attempt at a combo using scripts, it's just a variation of something in this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FpqBlCA8tc) video.
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welcome back. Get sick of just hanging around other fat losers and came back for some diversity?

[Starscream]

Sorry son, 360.

If these TE sticks were backward compatible between both consoles (for the price, they bloody well should've been) then i'd pick it up for PS3. But alas...
You got that right!

[SOX]

I've seen an adapter on play-asia that lets you use 360 controllers on PS3 but I think it was around $90 - which is stupid expensive.

[CoolzInferno]

Latest SSF4 video - 3 Costumes per character, 2 Ultras, general awesomeness.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-features-super-street/60456?type=flv

[Hemish71]

HELL YES
Fei Longs inch punch looked awesome!!

[Starscream]

Out of curiosity, without having two controllers connected to the 360, how can I play a one player game starting on the right (2P) side?

[JC Henderson]

Out of curiosity, without having two controllers connected to the 360, how can I play a one player game starting on the right (2P) side?

I am pretty sure you can cahnge it in the options.

[Lazlow]

If Guile doesn't say "Bison's ass is mine" rival battles are entirely wasted.

[JubeiSaotome]

That said, Bison better say "This is delicious"

[Starscream]

I am pretty sure you can cahnge it in the options.
Where? Because I can't seem to find it.

[Manny M]

Ghetto Balrog! YES!!!

Despite the plethora of quality titles in this quarter, SSFIV is my most anticipated. Really can't wait to get back into it again.

[Almighty Beanchild]

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[Starscream]

These are the arcade sticks you know you want:

Hori RAP Premium VLX sticks for PS3 and 360

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2010/02/05_hori03.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2010/02/05_hori01.jpg

http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2010/02/05_hori02.jpg

Bonnet style = easy custom modding

Small problem. They cost 30,000 Yen. :(

More info in Japanese here : 360 (http://www.hori.jp/products/multi/controller/rap_premium_vlx/360.html) and PS3 (http://www.hori.jp/products/multi/controller/rap_premium_vlx/PS3.html)

[HiredMan]

30k Yen?!!? Faaaark! I'm happy with my impending $140 Mad Catz FightStick TE thankyouverymuch :p

Does look interesting though, what is the flip-up feature for? Storage?

[Starscream]

Does look interesting though, what is the flip-up feature for? Storage?
No, not for storage. It's for custom modding.

[HiredMan]

No, not for storage. It's for custom modding.

Of course, silly me :)

In other news, getting back into a lil bit o SFIV in prep for SSFIV. Hit me up if you see me online.

[Manny M]

Oh i'll hit you up... right in the face with a Balrog uppercut!

[HiredMan]

You'll receive a flash kick to the balls for your trouble! :D

Paid for my TE FightStick, should be being posted today. If it gets here on Friday, might I suggest a bit of a SFIV fest on Friday night if chaps are keen? UC1's been on Live a bit. Manny, if you see him online, let him know Friday night is fight night.

[ElPresidente]

I'm up for Friday Fight Night.

[JC Henderson]

I'm in with some Honda action.

[HiredMan]

This is shaping up nicely :)

Balrog v Chun-Li v Guile v E. Honda... not a shoto in sight! Well, I might use Ryu and Gouken occasionally...

[ElPresidente]

Shotos can suck my one eyed Taiwanese Muay Thai champ! :P

[Starscream]

Shotos can suck my one eyed Taiwanese Muay Thai champ! :P
Actually, Sagat is from Thailand.

You have a start/finish time for this? Can't say that I will be online but maybe. Will be sending you a friend request HM.

Akuma & Ryu FTW.

[HiredMan]

I thought I had you on my friends list? Furigana or some such?

Lets say make the start time 7:30pm AEST.

[ElPresidente]

Actually, Sagat is from Thailand.

Yes, yes he is.

Typos are from fingers.

[JubeiSaotome]

Sagat pretty much is a Shoto >_>

[ElPresidente]

While we're continuing to point out the obvious...

Water is wet
Dogs bark
Jubei has red hair

:P

To point out what is not so obvious... I was referring to Sagat as a shoto. I don't play Sagat so when I say my I don't mean the Sagat I play.

[mcfustin]

I'll be up for some friday night fighting, gotta justify that money I spent on the TE to the missus :D

As long as you don't mind beating up a really shitty Cammy...

[Manny M]

Sorry chaps, but Balrog/Chunners/Vega will not be making an appearance for Fri Night Fight this week.

[HiredMan]

Alright ****s! TE arrived thisarvo and I'm ready to roll :) Which one will prove the old axiom today?!

Manny: poor form mane!

[Lex]

got your message hiredmang, can't be arsed typing a reply on the xbox :P

I'll actually be playing Sf4 at a mates place tonight, but on PS3 :(

[HiredMan]

got your message hiredmang, can't be arsed typing a reply on the xbox :P

I'll actually be playing Sf4 at a mates place tonight, but on PS3 :(

You're gay :D

[ElPresidente]

Where the Hell are you guys? I'm ready to punch on!

[Starscream]

Friday 12 February 2010
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Posting from dial up connection. :(

No MW2 on LIVE. Mofos!

Maybe next week.

[HiredMan]

I'm up for moar tonight, promise I wont pass out!

[mcfustin]

No can do for me tonight sorry guys, my wife's comandeered the tv :(

[tau]

Street Fighter IV on iPhone (http://au.wireless.ign.com/articles/106/1069286p1.html)

D:~

[ElPresidente]

I'm up for moar tonight, promise I wont pass out!

So that's what happened. :P

[Blue]

Street Fighter IV on iPhone (http://au.wireless.ign.com/articles/106/1069286p1.html)

D:~Bullshit.

There is no way this will work. :cool:

[HiredMan]

So that's what happened. :P

Yeah, sorry about that :D Up for more whenever though!

[mcfustin]

Glad to see that the community has diversified since I last played online - Sagat-> Ryu -> Ken -> Ryu -> Ken >_>

[Blue]

Had a few good fights with Hired tonight. Most rounds were pretty close, and we ended 6-4. We'll have to get some lobbies going when Super drops.

[HiredMan]

Had a few good fights with Hired tonight. Most rounds were pretty close, and we ended 6-4. We'll have to get some lobbies going when Super drops.

Yeah gg's mane. I maybe could've given you a bit better run if I didn't have that ****ing headache :(

After we finished I jumped into practice mode for a little while to practice my FADC's and I think I've got the actual FADC pretty much nailed. Still not quick enough to combo em into anything yet though :(

Man, I'm really getting back into this, cant wait for SSF4.

[ElPresidente]

Sorry I didn't reply to your message last night HM.

It came in during some tense stuff in Mass Effect 2 and by the time that was over I'd forgotten it had come in.

Call us even for last Fri. ;)

[HiredMan]

Haha, no probs :)

I will definitely be up for some matches tonight if anyone else is free.

[JC Henderson]

If you see me online and I'm not playing mass effect hit me up. Also blue have I got you on my friends list? I'm JCHenderson if not.

[Blue]

If you see me online and I'm not playing mass effect hit me up. Also blue have I got you on my friends list? I'm JCHenderson if not.Nah, don't have you. I'm Blue AUS, if you have the chance to add me first.

[Starscream]

GG HiredMan. And I wasn't using the HRAP as well!

[Manny M]

We've got to do this some time during the week. Fri is always so tough for me.

[HiredMan]

Anyone up for some bashings tonight? HADOKEN!

[ElPresidente]

I would but I've succumb to the temptations of StarCraft 2 - despite continuously getting my arse handed to me. :P

[HiredMan]

Take a break for an hour at around 8pm man :D

[mcfustin]

I'm stuck doing overtime at work tonight, but if I'm home at a reasonable time I'll jump on :)

[HiredMan]

Sweet man, probably wont be on for long though.

I'll jump on in 10 minutes for an hour or so.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

Anyone playing on PSN? I'll go a few rounds but I'm pretty ordinary.

[mcfustin]

Didn't get on till after 9pm sorry, gave me a chance to practice though :p

And sorry 8, xbox only for me I'm afraid.

[HiredMan]

Fight night tonight.... Anyone free?

[ElPresidente]

Another chance of drunken controller passing tonight. :)

[HiredMan]

GG man, I'll be on by 8.

[ElPresidente]

Can't make guarantees though. Apparently the house is getting bombarded with folks tonight. :P

[HiredMan]

Yeah all good mane, last time was fun :) dude playing Sagat > dude playing Zangief haha

[Clockw0rk]

Wish Forza was this easy to organise :p

[Manny M]

Planning to be home by 10pm tonight, so hopefully there'll still be some action going on.

[mcfustin]

Going out to dinner, but I'll jump on if I get home at a decent time

[Lex]

God when does ssf4 come out? I wanna play with you guys, but I'm hella not buying the standard edition now. Might hire it tonight.

[Rambo]

Anyone up for some now? I've got work tonight from 5 onwards to 3am.

[HiredMan]

God when does ssf4 come out? I wanna play with you guys, but I'm hella not buying the standard edition now.

APril 30 is the Euro release date, so around then I'm guessing.

Might hire it tonight.

DO IT ******

[Lazlow]

I haven't played it for f***ing ages, but if you see me online (probably drilling VF5 combos >_>) hit me up.

[HiredMan]

Oh shit IT'S ON TONIGHT

[JC Henderson]

Missus is going out for dinner so count me in!

[Starscream]

Wish Forza was this easy to organise :p
Bring back Sunday Night Warfare. :(

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

We need separate threads so the 2 people in the country who play this on ps3 can find eachother

[Lazlow]

Just jumped on for some practice; VF5 has made my timing better but all my tactics and moveset memory has gone out the window.

Then got hustled by UC1 6-1 :p

[Lex]

DO IT ******

they didn't have it :(

[Manny M]

Get online bitches!

[Hemish71]

Finally got a gold account
Sent out some friend requests
If you got one from hemdek its me
I wanna play

What a great way to eat humble pie, its one thing to beat your mates on it, its another thing all together when you go online
Talk about smashed!!

[Manny M]

Sorry Hemish, didn't see your response till later so didn't accept your friend request at the time. Add me and you can join in on the shenanigans next time.

Had some great matches tonight, thanks to those who battled it out (HiredMan, Lazlow, McFustin & (that ***** that's too good) UC1).

[HiredMan]

Yep, awesome fun tonight guys. I suck (but I'm pretty drunk haha :D)

[Lazlow]

Our first match was pretty epic, one of the two I won tonight :p

[mcfustin]

GG's guys, got taught a few lessons :p

I've really got to learn how to defend or counter better when I'm getting rushed down. Also, Manny's Vega is evil :D

[Lazlow]

Manny is evil in general, I got CRUSHED! D:

Think I'm going to leave Abel alone for now, and focus on Sagat, he's the only one I seem to have success with at the moment.

[Manny M]

GG's guys, got taught a few lessons :p

I've really got to learn how to defend or counter better when I'm getting rushed down. Also, Manny's Vega is evil :D

Best way to learn :)

And you've got to have a character that throws a bit of a curve ball at your opponent. That's why I loved your Cammy, it's not often people use her so it was great to get thrown off guard (and she whooped my Chunners).

Must do it again very soon. So looking forward to SSFIV.

[Manny M]

Manny is evil in general, I got CRUSHED! D:

Think I'm going to leave Abel alone for now, and focus on Sagat, he's the only one I seem to have success with at the moment.

I think Abel's a good character to learn, though I don't think he's easy. Definitely another one that throws your opponent off, especially being a mixed grappler. I'd love to learn him, but don't think i've got the patience.

[Lazlow]

I got a decent handle on him before, I've just forgotten how to use him. If you can time his forward roll you can really frustrate people, he just doesn't have much of an anti-air arsenal, and can be tough to counter when pressured.