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Shin_Battousai
17-07-2009, 10:32 PM
Coming on the 27th of October in the US and according to JB's site, it'll be out here on the 20th of November. Anyone getting the bundle with the arcade stick? Seems like JB's getting them
PS3 bundle (http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/game/ps3/tekken-6-arcade-stick-edition/444953)
360 bundle (http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/game/xbox-360/tekken-6-arcade-stick-edition/444956)
Lazlow
17-07-2009, 10:34 PM
I like how they promote 40 unique fighters... never mind that sub-bosses tend to share the some of the same moves as mains. And then there's all the siblings.
mcfustin
17-07-2009, 10:39 PM
I wouldn't mind getting a second stick, but I want to see what the specs of that stick are - if it's a wireless 8-buttoned EX-2 then count me out at that price.
Not really interested in this anymore as I gave my copy of tekken 5 a bash the other day and it just seemed too loose or something after playing SF4.
I'll probably just wait for KoFXII but I saw that at a convention on a weekend and it looked too slow.
Wow that sounds really whiny....
/goes and plays more SF4
Lazlow
17-07-2009, 11:50 PM
Nothing wrong with a slow fighter. Samurai Showdown II is a perfect example.
The stick bundle is coming to GAME for $260 or so. I'll need to see some reviews of the stick before committing, but I think I'll probably be picking it up. It'll be more reliable than the MadCatz TE.
JubeiSaotome
18-07-2009, 05:55 PM
I'm excited, but mostly for the Force mode, which is now 2 player. Also, interested in seeing how the customisation is.
Pretty hyped about this, I think production values are going to be through the roof. The only worry is the netcode, Namco don't really seem to care too much about it. See how it goes.
Does anybody know who the Australian distributor for this is? I just realised that BAM is a bit before this game comes out.
StorminNorman
12-08-2009, 09:52 PM
I'm presuming it's Namco Bandai, seeing as they now own the distribution company formerly known as Atari Australia (and Gamenation before that, and Sega Ozisoft before that...)
Wow, that happened fairly recently. I guess I should go looking for Atari Australia's contact details then.
edit: Nevermind found it.
http://www.namcobandaipartners.com.au/
Johnsters2
14-08-2009, 08:01 PM
Tekken 5 sucked, thats all i have to say
Good thing they made dark ressurection on PSP, on PSP it was 100% better
Im just afraid Tekken 6 on PS3 is gonna seem like Tekken 5 on PS2
Fingers crossed!
Tekken 5 sucked, thats all i have to say
Good thing they made dark ressurection on PSP, on PSP it was 100% better
Im just afraid Tekken 6 on PS3 is gonna seem like Tekken 5 on PS2
Fingers crossed!If that truly is all you have to say, then I assume we won't be hearing from you again. Thankfully.
JubeiSaotome
14-08-2009, 10:08 PM
Was there even any difference between T5 and T5DR outside of cosmetic changes and 2 new characters? >_>
Australian Ninja
15-08-2009, 09:55 AM
Nothing wrong with a slow fighter. Samurai Showdown II is a perfect example.
Good example, when the "slow" is deliberate. Not good when it's a game running at a slower speed than it should.
Like Tekken Tag on PS2. It left me screaming "WTF" at the TV. It made sense why Tekken 3 on PS1 ran slow, it wa stupid PAL. But Tekken Tag had no excuse when Soul Calibur and others were running at "normal" speeds on PS2 and Dreamcast.
Anyhow, Tekken 5 (on PS2) was a bit too slow. You notice it so bad when you load the "classic games" and go to Tekken 3. IMO too many 3D fighters run in slow motion compared to the good old days.
It used to be because of the whole PAL VS. NTSC 60 HERTZ hullabaloo, but it seems developers these days are intentionally making fighters run at a slower speed. SF IV ran too slowly in my opinion, which was fine for making it more accessible to newbies, but why not include the option to speed it up? Sorry for being a bit off topic.
Was there even any difference between T5 and T5DR outside of cosmetic changes and 2 new characters? >_>
You had to play it on one of the worst directional controllers available to mankind and break your fingers in frustration just so you would never attempt to play it again? [PSP]
But then it came to PSN, so that's forgiveable....
And I'm pretty sure they chucked in more of that costume crap in T5DR.
T5DR was also an arcade update which had some balance changes from memory.
T6 had the same thing, but since he console version is coming out so long after release, it already incorporates the changes.
Clockw0rk
10-09-2009, 06:04 PM
Pre-ordered the Arcade Stick Special Edition of this. Hopefully it's good.
I'm waiting to hear if the stick is ordinary or complete crap before I pre-order it.
Clockw0rk
10-09-2009, 07:09 PM
Isn't it a Hori stick? It shouldn't be terrible, and parts can be replaced hopefully.
If the stick isn't a sanwa JLF (or variant) I wouldn't expect much of it, especially at the asking price... overseas at least, here it's highway robbery.
If parts can be replaced easily, then it's definitely worth it.
Anyhow, Tekken 5 (on PS2) was a bit too slow. You notice it so bad when you load the "classic games" and go to Tekken 3. IMO too many 3D fighters run in slow motion compared to the good old days.
You clearly haven't played the first Street Fighter 2 port on SNES. It is so so so horribly slow and the slightest thing (where it be a fireball or a sign breaking in the background) makes it chug even more!
JubeiSaotome
05-11-2009, 10:07 AM
Just got home with the PS3 Tekken 6 Arcade Stick Edition!
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs113.snc3/16052_310779625526_677480526_9667627_7336217_n.jpg
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http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs113.snc3/16052_310779645526_677480526_9667630_5761431_n.jpg
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Serenity
05-11-2009, 10:13 AM
Almost makes me wish I had a 360. Quite liked Tekken 4, even though it wasn't as popular as the others.
JubeiSaotome
05-11-2009, 01:59 PM
Scenario mode is pretty fun so far, even if it's story line is a bit cheesy.
sausage
05-11-2009, 02:02 PM
The stick goddamnit the stick!!
Lazlow
05-11-2009, 02:14 PM
Almost makes me wish I had a 360. Quite liked Tekken 4, even though it wasn't as popular as the others.
Tekken 4 was the last Tekken I genuinely enjoyed. Everything since has felt like treading old ground.
JubeiSaotome
05-11-2009, 02:17 PM
Well, T6 has around 6 new characters and from 5 onwards, Kazuya/Jin/Heihachi have all had their own move sets, moving away from the old Kazuya cloning. There really is a lot of variety in terms of fighting styles. Plus the online mode allows you to download and upload ghost data, making arcade mode dynamic. I've yet to try VS online, but if it is choppy, I'm assuming it would be fixed quickly. Then again, there never seems to be too much lag vs Australian players.
http://tekken.namco.com/characters/
Shin_Battousai
05-11-2009, 03:13 PM
How's the stick with respect to input lag?
JubeiSaotome
05-11-2009, 03:59 PM
Just tested it VS a PS3 pad, no lag what so ever. Then again, I'm not sure if the PS3 pad has input lag.
Clockw0rk
05-11-2009, 08:37 PM
The stick has no input lag, it's responsive and weighted nicely. It's got grippy feet for tables but I've been using it on my lap with no issues.
It doesn't use Sanwa parts but unless you're a tourneyfag you really shouldn't care. I'm not the kind of guy who writes entire dissertations on the minor differences between two arcade sticks, I just like to sit at home and play Tekken with my flatmates and it works fine for that.
(Got the Xbox 360 version BTW)
Wireless controllers haven't had lag for years, it's just something that stick elitists still bitch about to seem hardcore.
It's very lightweight, the parts aren't great, there aren't quick-disconnects, and there have been the obligatory reports of day-one failures.
Having said that, it'll probably be fine for most. It's just that in Australia, it's horribly overpriced, which has put me off. When you can get a Microsoft wheel and a copy of Forza 3 LE bundled together for under $200, the price of this bundle seems exorbitant.
I'm still planning on getting the MadCatz FightStick TE at some point.
Apparently I'm an elitist/tourneyfag. :p
It doesn't use Sanwa parts but unless you're a tourneyfag you really shouldn't care. I'm not the kind of guy who writes entire dissertations on the minor differences between two arcade sticks, I just like to sit at home and play Tekken with my flatmates and it works fine for that.
I do 100% agree with this. What I dislike is the pricetag on something like this when it doesn't have arcade quality parts. I know people will pay for it though when wireless arcade doesn't otherwise exist on the market.
Wireless controllers haven't had lag for years, it's just something that stick elitists still bitch about to seem hardcore.
Of official controllers, the wavebird had roughly one frames worth of lag. Neither current gen wireless controllers lag. They just have other quibbles that piss us tourneyfags off. Batteries are actually the least of our concerns.
I put an order for T6 on impulse during a CDWOW sale ($65). It despatched a couple of days ago. At minimum I'll learn how the system works and play it a bit with the local Tekken community.
The WaveBird? Gee, I'm sure Melee and Brawl players were really cut up about that. :p
So if it isn't the batteries that concern you (I, on the other hand, hate having to use batteries), and it isn't the non-existent lag, what is it about wireless sticks that bothers you? Proprietary dongles like this?
Anyway, yeah, as far as the stick goes, it's not bad for the price that's being charged in the U.S, but we're getting royally jerked over here.
Oh no, nothing wrong with the dongle. I was relieved to hear about the dongle.
As I told Jubei the other day, consider this scenario at a tournament, where controllers are usually byo:
-player syncs their controller to console for their match
-player 'unassigns/reboots console/whatever' pulls out their controller and goes on their way.
-player absent mindedly or accidentally presses the home button on the controller, pausing the console it was last on from the other side of the room.
It sounds stupid, but it happens frequently and kills the enjoyment for people really getting into it. There is also other annoying things like people complaining about losing charge cables and the controllers themselves not ending up where they belong if we have them hooked up to casual setups. Those ones are a bit of a worry when it comes to security too...
Yeah, I'm sure it's a pretty common occurrence. I just hate having to use rechargeable AA batteries. If it has a charge system like the controller does, with a built-in rechargeable pack and a charge cable, that's perfect. But if I have to take the batteries out of my controller and place them in some sort of foreign charging station, I'm over it already. Hence, I still use my GHII Explorer controller, rather than the newer ones. Wired.
REQUIEM
06-11-2009, 11:43 AM
Im enjoying Tekken again. Its about time as since tekken 2 its all been samey, dont get me wrong T6 is samey but it looks sweet whilst doing so.
Wireless controllers haven't had lag for years
lololol. Just because you can't notice it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Clockw0rk
06-11-2009, 03:51 PM
Apparently I'm an elitist/tourneyfag. :p
I do 100% agree with this. What I dislike is the pricetag on something like this when it doesn't have arcade quality parts. I know people will pay for it though when wireless arcade doesn't otherwise exist on the market.
Of official controllers, the wavebird had roughly one frames worth of lag. Neither current gen wireless controllers lag. They just have other quibbles that piss us tourneyfags off. Batteries are actually the least of our concerns.
I put an order for T6 on impulse during a CDWOW sale ($65). It despatched a couple of days ago. At minimum I'll learn how the system works and play it a bit with the local Tekken community.
The Street Fighter stick costs a significant amount more than the whole Tekken bundle, and so does the Madcatz stick. At least, it does in New Zealand. Aussies are probably better off when it comes to importing. Remember that the Tekken bundle comes with a full-price new release game, making the Street Fighter stick cost literally twice as much (over here).
Given that the Tekken stick still has quality parts (just not the best), I don't see the price as an issue. Like I said, it suits me as I won't be carting it around to tournaments or writing a scathing review for elitisttourneyfag.com anytime soon. I'll just be sitting at home getting drunk and playing Tekken.
If you're just sitting at home playing Tekken and drinking, why bother with a stick?
Because the 360 controller sucks balls for fighters.
Like I said, it suits me as I won't be carting it around to tournaments or writing a scathing review for elitisttourneyfag.com anytime soon.
I love how people who actually care about how their game really controls are always elitist tourney fags. Those jerks.
Clockw0rk
06-11-2009, 05:01 PM
I know I'll never be good enough at Tekken to hate the controller.
Damn, I guess I'll just have to have fun instead.
I know I'll never be good enough at Tekken to hate the controller.
Damn, I guess I'll just have to have fun instead.
>implying that people who are good at games don't have fun
:cool:
Clockw0rk
06-11-2009, 05:06 PM
>implying
**** OFF AND DIE IN A FIRE
Regardless, I like the wireless controller because it's priced reasonably compared to the other sticks and suits my needs.
I also like the game, too!
Except for Azazel and Nancy, and bosses with Rage right from the start of the round. Why do all fighting games always have ridiculously cheap bosses?
lololol. Just because you can't notice it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.Er, no … No. Tests that have been run repeatedly on every wireless controller under the sun have proven that modern controllers no longer suffer from even a frame's worth of lag. I mean, I could just make baseless assumptions like you do, but instead I'm content to only comment on things that I know about. Televisions still lag, wireless controllers do not.
I'm pretty sure you're just trolling like a bitch, however, so … carry on.
Heads up to anyone buying this stick expecting "quality parts, just not THE best". I wouldn't describe any of these parts as 'quality'. Just because the stick is Hori, that doesn't mean it's a good stick, just as the MadCatz name didn't prevent the TE from being good.
From what I've heard, yeah, it's an alright stick.
Er, no … No. Tests that have been run repeatedly on every wireless controller under the sun have proven that modern controllers no longer suffer from even a frame's worth of lag.
Got a source on that, chief?
Got a source on that, chief?Many, but I'm hardly going to bother finding any just to win an argument with you.
Go dig up some controller-lag threads on SRK and teach yourself.
It's been real.
sausage
06-11-2009, 05:29 PM
chief......
lolblue :rolleyes:Yeah, this comment means nothing Lex, just a heads up.
sausage
06-11-2009, 05:32 PM
I have the death sentence on 12 systems.
Clockw0rk
06-11-2009, 05:32 PM
Who here has finished the campaign?
I hate how I have to make Lars look like a raving homo to get stat boosts. His outfits are awful.
Heads up to anyone buying this stick expecting "quality parts, just not THE best". I wouldn't describe any of these parts as 'quality'. Just because the stick is Hori, that doesn't mean it's a good stick, just as the MadCatz name didn't prevent the TE from being good.
The thing I would be worried about is that the buttons press straight onto the PCB and would wear out over time. Also if it's the same as the existing Wii/360/PS3 hori sticks the square gate looks like it's made of a cheap material as well that looks like it would wear down too.
http://pineconeattack.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/4.jpg
Sure you could mod it with better parts but the HRAP3 was like $100 (before shipping) and you wouldn't have to dick around with any of that.
Yeah, this comment means nothing Lex, just a heads up.
Of course it does, I'm laughing and rolling my eyes at you, because you couldn't find a source. Silly!
Who here has finished the campaign?
I hate how I have to make Lars look like a raving homo to get stat boosts. His outfits are awful.
Stat.. boosts? Just for single player right?
The thing I would be worried about is that the buttons press straight onto the PCB and would wear out over time. Also if it's the same as the existing Wii/360/PS3 hori sticks the square gate looks like it's made of a cheap material as well that looks like it would wear down too.
http://pineconeattack.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/4.jpg
Sure you could mod it with better parts but the HRAP3 was like $100 (before shipping) and you wouldn't have to dick around with any of that.Yeah, the gate looks cheap, and I've heard it rubs a bit.
Look, chances are that anybody who considers buying this without modding it isn't going to use it enough to wear it out anyway.
I've just started playing SFIV again, after a long break, and I'm using Ken this time, instead of Ryu. My win % has only dropped from 80% to 74.5%, although it will probably continue to drop for awhile. Ken isn't as dominant as Ryu, but he is much more fun. His ultra, while harder to land, is more satisfying when you do. He's just more fun overall, although I'm hoping for a slight buff in SSFIV, maybe just to movement speed and SRK recovery.
I need to buy a stick, however. Desperately.
Takeda
06-11-2009, 09:21 PM
Just got done with this. Well, you can never truly be done with Tekken, but most of the annoying story parts I whore for achievements I am. I really wanted to get it out the way. So I dedicated the first two days I got it to it. Some achievements I've had a look and people have struggled SO hard which I had the luck of the cheev'whore to pass off in one go. I really like it, and online isn't as horribly laggy as I expected being a Kiwi and all.
Is it me or does using Kazuya feel outdated in this Tekken? Everyone feels faster, stronger, better. I think maybe I just need to master him a little better is all. It's really hard to pull fast Hellsweeps and Glorious Demon God Fists off with a tiny bit of lag and a clunky thumb on a d-pad.
Kazuya hasn't been good since Tekken 3.
Given that the Tekken stick still has quality parts (just not the best), I don't see the price as an issue. Like I said, it suits me as I won't be carting it around to tournaments or writing a scathing review for elitisttourneyfag.com anytime soon. I'll just be sitting at home getting drunk and playing Tekken..
http://sdtekken.com/tech-area/arcade-sticks/review-tekken-6-wireless-fighting-stick/
Relax man... Markman of SDTekken agrees with you. This dude owns a sea of arcade sticks, so he's more than qualified to make this call.
Also Lars default costume looks like a really gay. I don't see how random clothing items could make him look any less flamboyant. If anything the lack of outfit coordination would probably make him look less gay.
Cos I'm a tourneyfag and I find it generally interesting, here's some pro Japanese players opinions on tiers:
S: Steve
A: Lars, Lili, Lee, Law
B: Asuka, Armor King, Eddy, Ganryu, Xiaoyu, Julia, Jin, Devil Jin, Hwoarang, Feng Wei, Bryan, Bruce, Heihachi, Baek, Marduk, Roger Jr.
C: Anna, Alisa, Kazuya, King, Kuma/Panda, Christie, Jack-6, Dragunov, Nina, Paul, Bob, Lei, Leo, Wang
D: Zafina, Miguel, Yoshimitsu, Raven
Pulled from www.tekken.org.au
JubeiSaotome
07-11-2009, 09:19 AM
Goddamnit, why do I always choose low tiers.
Kazuya hasn't been good since Tekken 3.
Kazuya wasn't in 3.
Is it me or does using Kazuya feel outdated in this Tekken? Everyone feels faster, stronger, better. I think maybe I just need to master him a little better is all. It's really hard to pull fast Hellsweeps and Glorious Demon God Fists off with a tiny bit of lag and a clunky thumb on a d-pad.
Learn some of his combos, don't rely on his special moves. Lp, Rp, Rk, Lk is a good start.
REQUIEM
07-11-2009, 07:45 PM
Law is still great. That is a tekken tradition.
http://sdtekken.com/2009/03/22/tougeki-spirits-t6br-character-ranking/
Here is the original source of that info. It isn't exactly reliable due to only being 3 months after the BR update release. Also just looking around, it seems that list is more contended than ever and no one really takes it seriously. That's actually a good thing. A tier list that everyone agrees on is poorly balanced game.
It always amazes me how different the Japanese, U.S and Korean tier lists can be, even after months and months of playing.
I'm still debating whether or not I want to buy this game any time soon. I've played all of the others, but since then, I've been playing SFIV online a lot, and really trying to improve my game. I don't think I can be content just going back to Tekken and learning a few combos. If I'm going to play a fighting game nowadays, or any game for that matter, I want to put the time in to be good at it. With SFIV, Forza 3, Rock Band, Halo 3, FIFA 10, and the occasional bit of WoW, I just don't think I'll have the enthusiasm to try to master another system.
JubeiSaotome
08-11-2009, 02:39 PM
As Bronze said on my facebook, I'm finding Nightmare Train to be an absolute bitch, even on Medium. Been farming items all day.
Takeda
08-11-2009, 07:58 PM
Nightmare Train was fun as hell. I tried it once, found it too difficult. Equipped an 8 def. Smashed it on my second go. Cleaned up the rest of the cheevs while I was at it too. After going on a hate rampage that they unMishima'd Jin (Have been like this since Tekken 4). I'm actually kind of warming up to him again. Which is nice. Oh and while I'm posting, I might as well add that Lili is such a scum character put into the hands of a noob running through ranked. I couldn't believe how hard to block some of her stuff was. Especially when whored in a really specific pattern. Must lrn2block.
JubeiSaotome
10-11-2009, 11:05 AM
I managed to beat nightmare train by accidentally knocking DVJ off the edge. :O
Now to get every ending.
Takeda
10-11-2009, 10:37 PM
I managed to beat nightmare train by accidentally knocking DVJ off the edge. :O
Now to get every ending.
Enjoy that :D I loved facing the ever so hospitable Azazel 26 times or so. The only reason I got off the hook for some are that the endings for some reason unlock while even playing Team Battles. Was wasting some friends while resting in between cheevs. Next thing later they started pouring in.
Reached the level of 'Master' with Kaz in ranked. Quite happy with that. 33 wins, and 11 losses. Or something like that. Hoping to climb the ladder when not being hopelessly pulled away by MW2.
Bump.
Patch is out on PSN (and has been for a while now), it looks like it's largely fixed the online problems.
Keep an eye out for me on PSN: zzzaro. Got some ghosts up too, I think they need updating though.
And is it just me, or does this have the easiest Platinum trophy ever? I think the only problem is going to be beating Nancy.
amcam
13-12-2009, 10:54 PM
Depending on Character, Nancy is a cinch to beat...
Using Jack-6, for example, spamming f[2,1] is good way to deal damage...
Depending on Character, Nancy is a cinch to beat...
Using Jack-6, for example, spamming f[2,1] is good way to deal damage...
I gathered you meant f4,1.
Which worked, by the way. Thanks!
amcam
16-12-2009, 09:52 AM
I gathered you meant f4,1.
Which worked, by the way. Thanks!
Oops. I did mean f[4,1]...
And you're Welcome...
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