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Ninjalada
14-02-2010, 11:56 PM
I do agree with him though about the level where that Poole guy wants you to get 3 Little Sisters, that was a bit poo. When the 'shocking truth' about what he had done was revealed, I was completey unsurprised.
I did think that part was badly written, as it did make me feel meh as soon as I was instructed to deal with 3 little sisters, but my interest built back up fairly quickly as I actually started doing it.
I do agree with him though about the level where that Poole guy wants you to get 3 Little Sisters, that was a bit poo. When the 'shocking truth' about what he had done was revealed, I was completey unsurprised.Molester?
Natrak
15-02-2010, 01:13 AM
No. There really isn't any 'shocking' truth, I don't really think that was the point of it. Yes information you weren't aware of before is revealed, but it's more about giving you more background to the world, what happened and your own character/Eleanor and encouraging you to make a certain choice regarding the character.
Was everyone expecting that you'd be beating Andrew Ryan's head in with a 9 Iron every 5 minutes or something?
banjoeskimo
15-02-2010, 05:50 AM
Look, I agree it wasn't pull-the-rug-out crazy, but from a storytelling perspective that was totally necessary. It successfully explains how Eleanor became a little sister and it introduces the concept of ADAM containing genetic memories, an absolutely crucial storytelling device for the end of the game. Why's everyone confused?
Ninjalada
15-02-2010, 07:05 AM
I wasn't confused, I just didn't care. To me it was completely pointless.
I wasn't confused, I just didn't care. To me it was completely pointless.What, a sequel? :cool:
aubergine
15-02-2010, 10:29 AM
Sadly my interest has ground to a halt in the Siren Alley area.
The design of rapture is a fail for me so far. From the outside it's all skyscraper but inside no building is higher than three stories and most areas are sprawling downtowns.
When Siren Alley opened up into a SECOND large-looking area I think I just lost interest. If there's any scripted in game moments to rival all the one with Plaster Splicers from the first game, they haven't shown themselves yet.
AranchineD
15-02-2010, 11:04 AM
Was everyone expecting that you'd be beating Andrew Ryan's head in with a 9 Iron every 5 minutes or something?
Excuse me, why didn't you spoiler tag this, some people haven't played the original game yet and now you've ruined the whole story for them you dick~
sausage
15-02-2010, 11:06 AM
Yes, would you kindly spoiler that please.
Tonez
15-02-2010, 11:10 AM
Excuse me, why didn't you spoiler tag this, some people haven't played the original game yet and now you've ruined the whole story for them you dick~
To be fair, if it wasn't for this post, most people wouldn't have known this was part of Bioshock...You dick~
EDIT: Also, agreed on the jwalka front. tau makes a good point though. I really expected it to be shit the way he was going on, but I've been loving it.
concrete donkey
15-02-2010, 11:17 AM
To be fair, if it wasn't for this post, most people wouldn't have known this was part of Bioshock...You dick~
EDIT: Also, agreed on the jwalka front. tau makes a good point though. I really expected it to be shit the way he was going on, but I've been loving it.
aranchineDick just ruined Bioshock1 for me now. Thanks.
Excuse me, why didn't you spoiler tag this, some people haven't played the original game yet and now you've ruined the whole story for them you dick~I didn't realise that you actually did that until you pointed it out so forcefully.
So **** you both. Well, not really, as I probably won't ever bother to finish it anyway. :cool:
jwalka
15-02-2010, 12:48 PM
i dont bother adding commas etc, and if my spelling was shit in my last post it was due to me not having spell check clean things up sorry masters i will try and be more 'punctuated' in the future.*
fontaine futuristics is pretty cool, very spacious.
on the topic of golf clubs, has anyone gotten the achievement in the theme park?
* im being sarcastic. i dont need to type like a pro for you or anyone, and besides you guys managed to figure out what i said.or is it that you just cbf giving up 30 seconds of your life to understand what i typed
adam_91vn
15-02-2010, 12:54 PM
aranchineDick just ruined Bioshock1 for me now. Thanks.
The game is a few years old and your actively reading a thread for the sequel. Who would have thought :rolleyes:
i dont bother adding commas etc, and if my spelling was shit in my last post it was due to me not having spell check clean things up sorry masters i will try and be more 'punctuated' in the future.*
fontaine futuristics is pretty cool, very spacious.
on the topic of golf clubs, has anyone gotten the achievement in the theme park?
* im being sarcastic. i dont need to type like a pro for you or anyone, and besides you guys managed to figure out what i said.or is it that you just cbf giving up 30 seconds of your life to understand what i typed
It's really not about typing like a "pro", it's about typing so that anyone who reads it can read it fluidly without feeling like they're doing a chore by trying to understand what the **** you're trying to say.
Could you imagine how annoying it'd be if someone came up to you and just rambled on monotonously without taking a breath?
The game is a few years old and your actively reading a thread for the sequel. Who would have thought :rolleyes:
lol yeah, this. Why would you expect a thread about a sequel to be spoiler free of the first? And if you've yet to play the first after so many years, it doesn't seem like you will any time soon.
AranchineD
15-02-2010, 01:33 PM
lol yeah, this. Why would you expect a thread about a sequel to be spoiler free of the first? And if you've yet to play the first after so many years, it doesn't seem like you will any time soon.
I'm sorry but according to this forum neither of those reasons are good enough, anything anyone says about the original Bioshock must be spoiler tagged for all eternity.
Natrak
15-02-2010, 01:42 PM
Yes, would you kindly spoiler that please.
God, I miss pep.
I like how Hiredman edited in spoiler tags to one thing and then left Aub's spoiler in, one which made the first game so ****ing incredible in my mind.
jwalka
15-02-2010, 02:31 PM
is the 'scout' plasmid any good?
i dont like most the plasmid (except elementals) i had the decoy one but it didnt see to work properly (bots still attacked me, and only 1 or2 enemies attacked the decoy).
Ninjalada
15-02-2010, 08:10 PM
on the topic of golf clubs, has anyone gotten the achievement in the theme park?
Is it a secret achievement? I have only 1 left to get and I was wondering what it could be but now I have a good idea. I did notice all those gold clubs...
jwalka
15-02-2010, 08:23 PM
yeah its a secret achievement, its called 9-irony, youtube it for details.
btw are the secret achievements story based or are they like the golf club one ?
concrete donkey
15-02-2010, 08:43 PM
The game is a few years old and your actively reading a thread for the sequel. Who would have thought :rolleyes:
lol, sorry, i was just joking. see how funny i am? Ive finished Bioshock 4 times, gotten all the achievements. Amazing game.
Ninjalada
15-02-2010, 11:39 PM
I was wrong, I still have 2 secret achievements left.
I got that 9-Irony one though. It was easy to figure out, the name kind of gives it away.
i dont bother adding commas etc, and if my spelling was shit in my last post it was due to me not having spell check clean things up sorry masters i will try and be more 'punctuated' in the future.*
fontaine futuristics is pretty cool, very spacious.
on the topic of golf clubs, has anyone gotten the achievement in the theme park?
* im being sarcastic. i dont need to type like a pro for you or anyone, and besides you guys managed to figure out what i said.or is it that you just cbf giving up 30 seconds of your life to understand what i typedNo, it's actually incredibly hard to understand your posts without having to read them over twice, and they're certainly not worth the effort, because you're a moron. It's not only the lack of punctuation, it's … everything you type. Stupidity distilled. :cool:
Cerebral
16-02-2010, 03:56 AM
Just spent half an hour trying to take down a Big Sister who jumped me when I had barely any ammo, barely any Eve, and 1 medkit. Last save was an hour beforehand. That sucked.
Eventually took it down by luring it to a Big Daddy, then looting him for ammo/medkits when she killed him.
jwalka
16-02-2010, 06:32 AM
Just spent half an hour trying to take down a Big Sister who jumped me when I had barely any ammo, barely any Eve, and 1 medkit. Last save was an hour beforehand.
you run into sisters whenever you finish with all little ones in the area.thats why i always hang onto the last sister until im certain i can take the big one on.
my advice, use armor piercing rounds with the machine gun, the electric shells for the shotgun and the grenade launcher and burn/electrocute her alot (burning her has a longer lasting effect then it does with other enemies)
jwalka
16-02-2010, 06:34 AM
Just spent half an hour trying to take down a Big Sister who jumped me when I had barely any ammo, barely any Eve, and 1 medkit. Last save was an hour beforehand.
you run into sisters whenever you finish with all little ones in the area.thats why i always hang onto the last sister until im certain i can take the big one on.
my advice, use armor piercing rounds with the machine gun, the electric shells for the shotgun and the grenade launcher and burn/electrocute her alot (burning her has a longer lasting effect then it does with other enemies)
jwalka
16-02-2010, 06:35 AM
Just spent half an hour trying to take down a Big Sister who jumped me when I had barely any ammo, barely any Eve, and 1 medkit. Last save was an hour beforehand.
you run into sisters whenever you finish with all little ones in the area.thats why i always hang onto the last sister until im certain i can take the big one on.
my advice, use armor piercing rounds with the machine gun, the electric shells for the shotgun and the grenade launcher and burn/electrocute her alot (burning her has a longer lasting effect then it does with other enemies)
sausage
16-02-2010, 06:57 AM
Oh man I'm so blazed I read all three posts.
Ninjalada
16-02-2010, 09:06 AM
the electric shells for the shotgun
Do not exist in BioShock 2.
Cobla
16-02-2010, 09:22 AM
Yeah but the third upgrade adds electricity to any shell "randomly". ;)
btw are the secret achievements story based or are they like the golf club one ?Most are story related, but there's one (& only one) which you get for making particular choices, and a few other skill and special ones.
A couple of these last kind (off the top of my head) are killing enemies with hacked security and killing the 1st big sister without dying
jwalka
16-02-2010, 01:09 PM
there are electric shells, the bottom ones, they have a delay before shocking.
i dont understand why they dont just show all the achievements to begin with.
Cobla
16-02-2010, 01:17 PM
Actually they are phosphorus shells, which explode after a time. Like I said, you can get electric shells from upgrading the weapon fully, but even then they only fire a charge sporadically. :cool:
Also if you really don't understand why the achievements aren't all shown from the start, well then you're not trying very hard. (It's to avoid spoilers, seems pretty obvious to me.)
concrete donkey
16-02-2010, 01:41 PM
Actually they are phosphorus shells, which explode after a time. Like I said, you can get electric shells from upgrading the weapon fully, but even then they only fire a charge sporadically. :cool:
Also if you really don't understand why the achievements aren't all shown from the start, well then you're not trying very hard. (It's to avoid spoilers, seems pretty obvious to me.)
Yeah its a good idea to hide them from that point of view but i do hate secret achievements when you have no idea on how to unlock them.
jwalka
16-02-2010, 03:19 PM
yeah what donkey said, i dont have a problem with designers 'hiding' story related achievements its just those other ones like 9 irony, wtf does that have to do with the main story, no need for it to be hidden.
i think its a way of pissing people of and making them start again to find these achievements
Cobla
16-02-2010, 03:30 PM
True enough, and I guess it's worst for those achievements which are both secret and can only be done at one particular point in the game. (of which there's at least two)
jwalka
16-02-2010, 04:45 PM
those achievements which are both secret and can only be done at one particular point in the game
if only the game had replay like the 1st. it would be cool going back and adam harvesting to buy more skills etc.
banjoeskimo
16-02-2010, 06:56 PM
I ended up getting all but two of the single player achievements on my first run, sans guide. The only ones I missed were for finishing on hard, and 9-Irony.
Speaking of achievements though, am pretty pissed at the multiplayer. I actually managed to get the Little Sister to a vent and score for my team in Capture The Sister, and no Mother Goose achievement. Searching around online suggests that this achievement is buggy, and doesn't always activate, even when you've successfully met its requirement.
Really wish they'd patch the multi. It's interesting enough that I want to give it a shot for a while, but buggy enough that I usually end up frustrated every couple of matches with lag, glitching and long wait times.
concrete donkey
16-02-2010, 07:46 PM
I ended up getting all but two of the single player achievements on my first run, sans guide. The only ones I missed were for finishing on hard, and 9-Irony.
Speaking of achievements though, am pretty pissed at the multiplayer. I actually managed to get the Little Sister to a vent and score for my team in Capture The Sister, and no Mother Goose achievement. Searching around online suggests that this achievement is buggy, and doesn't always activate, even when you've successfully met its requirement.
Really wish they'd patch the multi. It's interesting enough that I want to give it a shot for a while, but buggy enough that I usually end up frustrated every couple of matches with lag, glitching and long wait times.
yeah, some friends had that happen to them too, so They had to get another little sister or two into the vent before they got the achievement. Thankfully i got mine first try.
aubergine
16-02-2010, 11:31 PM
Secret Achievements can be great, such as the superb "Irony" achievement from the first game. Discovering that without prompting was hilarious.
Natrak
16-02-2010, 11:46 PM
9 Irony fills the same sort of role. I have no problem with nice little bonus achievements like that being secret achievements. Who cares if you have to look it up on the internet if you're that desperate for 1000/1000.
Ninjalada
16-02-2010, 11:52 PM
I don't understand why you are given the option to harvest a Little Sister straight after killing it's Big Daddy. You can get more Adam and still harvest it if you harvest it after the 2 gathers. Why would an option exist to screw yourself out of Adam for no reason at all?
Shorty
17-02-2010, 12:02 AM
First time I played the game, I didn't get the option of harvesting straight after killing the Big Daddy.
jwalka
17-02-2010, 10:14 AM
I don't understand why you are given the option to harvest a Little Sister straight after killing it's Big Daddy. You can get more Adam and still harvest it if you harvest it after the 2 gathers. Why would an option exist to screw yourself out of Adam for no reason at all?
some people might be to lazy to harvest, or find it difficult (especially when your low on ammo, health etc).
but the best thing imo would be to harvest adam and then kill her :D
concrete donkey
17-02-2010, 10:26 AM
some people might be to lazy to harvest, or find it difficult (especially when your low on ammo, health etc).
but the best thing imo would be to harvest adam and then kill her :D
true, but you dont acually NEED all of the plasmids and tonics to progress the game. They're all handy but not 100% necessary
jwalka
17-02-2010, 12:07 PM
yeah you got a point, the only ones i find really useful are the elementals.
can anyone give a reason to actually finish this game, atm i dont really care as to whether i play it or not (havent touched it in over 4 days).i find it very repetitive and boring, the story doesnt even motivate me (unlike the last).
so please do try and encourage me to play (as i payed $110)
Tonez
17-02-2010, 12:30 PM
yeah you got a point, the only ones i find really useful are the elementals.
can anyone give a reason to actually finish this game, atm i dont really care as to whether i play it or not (havent touched it in over 4 days).i find it very repetitive and boring, the story doesnt even motivate me (unlike the last).
so please do try and encourage me to play (as i payed $110)
Trade it in and get out of this thread.
jwalka
17-02-2010, 01:50 PM
Trade it in and get out of this thread.
i really hope your not a retailer or actual reviewer.
Tonez
17-02-2010, 01:54 PM
i really hope your not a retailer or actual reviewer.
you're
concrete donkey
17-02-2010, 04:02 PM
yeah you got a point, the only ones i find really useful are the elementals.
can anyone give a reason to actually finish this game, atm i dont really care as to whether i play it or not (havent touched it in over 4 days).i find it very repetitive and boring, the story doesnt even motivate me (unlike the last).
so please do try and encourage me to play (as i payed $110)
im surprised you didnt return it within the 7 day period because you've been hating it from pretty much the beginning
i really hope your not a retailer or actual reviewer.What does that even mean?
You paid $110 (****ing ridiculous) for a decidedly average game. I don't know why you paid such an exorbitant price in the first place, but if you don't like it, trade it the **** in.
jwalka
17-02-2010, 06:05 PM
i hate it but like it at the same time, the cons out do the pros imo so idk if i should finish it or trade it in (im about half way.. i think).
i really liked the 1st, but i havent really received any good feedback on this.
the one decent thing in this game imo would be multiplayer.. thats how bad i think it is.
concrete donkey
17-02-2010, 06:10 PM
i hate it but like it at the same time, the cons out do the pros imo so idk if i should finish it or trade it in (im about half way.. i think).
i really liked the 1st, but i havent really received any good feedback on this.
the one decent thing in this game imo would be multiplayer.. thats how bad i think it is.
I think the game is worth $110 and ive really enjoyed it. The multiplayer was a great bonus. I'd be trading it in asap though because EB drops its trade value rather quickly
I think the game is worth $110 and ive really enjoyed it. The multiplayer was a great bonus. I'd be trading it in asap though because EB drops its trade value rather quicklyNo game is worth $110.
jawsy
17-02-2010, 06:44 PM
I dropped $120 on NBA Jam Tournament Edition on the SNES back in primary school and it was totally worth every cent. And every hour I spent washing cars.
That game was like a father to me.
I dropped $120 on NBA Jam Tournament Edition on the SNES back in primary school and it was totally worth every cent. And every hour I spent washing cars.
That game was like a father to me.Yeah, some games were worth that, back in the day. I wouldn't now, of course, but I would have paid that for Super Mario All Stars back in the day.
Nowadays, however, top-quality games are much more common, and 'retro' gaming is a cheap, viable option. There's no way I'll pay more than $90, now; it just isn't necessary.
concrete donkey
17-02-2010, 08:01 PM
No game is worth $110.
Well, i disagree you cheap ****. Good games are worth $110 and bioshock2 is a great game. I just finished it and cant wait to start on another play through. Any game that makes you want to start again straight away are easily worth paying full price.
aubergine
17-02-2010, 08:05 PM
Yeah, you have a point; the only ones I find really useful are elemental.
Could someone please give a reason to actually finish this game? At the moment I dont really care as to whether I play it or not, haven't touched it in over 4 days. I find it very repetitive, boring and the story doesn't motivate me like the first.
So please do try and encourage me to play, as I paid $110.
I managed to be interested while playing it but totally ambivalent when not playing it, which is why I returned it. I'll borrow it or buy it again when the price drops someday and finish it, but the main sense I got from this game was a desire to replay the first game. I think I can guess what the inevitable plot twist will be as to the player-character's identity, otherwise the game doesn't have the narrative hook nor moment-to-moment writing and design quality of the first game. I only went as far as Siren Alley, did some amount of that level past the pump door.
jwalka
17-02-2010, 08:34 PM
@ aubergine
totally agree with you, this reminds me of the 1st bioshock, to such an extent that i want the original again.
like i said very repetitive and by the sounds of it you guys dont have a arguing point - cant convince me well enough to keep this PoS excuse to charge $110.on that note, aussies are paying almost double because most new releases in america are around 70$ in australian, and in asian they are half.its the retailers that chose the price, they get a huge discount if the order in bulk, so they jack the price up (and down for trade ins(i traded darksiders for $68 after its 2nd week of release wtf)) to make a very good profit (on both trade ins and new copies).
thats why i dont want to trade it in, because im going to probably get less than 50% of what i bought it for (maybe a bit more)
concrete donkey
17-02-2010, 08:36 PM
@ aubergine
totally agree with you, this reminds me of the 1st bioshock, to such an extent that i want the original again.
like i said very repetitive and by the sounds of it you guys dont have a arguing point - cant convince me well enough to keep this PoS excuse to charge $110.on that note, aussies are paying almost double because most new releases in america are around 70$ in australian, and in asian they are half.its the retailers that chose the price, they get a huge discount if the order in bulk, so they jack the price up (and down for trade ins(i traded darksiders for $68 after its 2nd week of release wtf)) to make a very good profit (on both trade ins and new copies).
thats why i dont want to trade it in, because im going to probably get less than 50% of what i bought it for (maybe a bit more)
But if you hate the game, and dont enjoy playing it you may aswell trade it. If you keep it and it just collects dust what good is it?
Well, i disagree you cheap ****. Good games are worth $110 and bioshock2 is a great game. I just finished it and cant wait to start on another play through. Any game that makes you want to start again straight away are easily worth paying full price.No need to be abusive.
But placing such a high value on a video game, as an adult, would make me believe that you have very skewed priorities. One look at your Gamerscore already tells me that you need to get a ****ing life, but the fact that you're willing to waste $110 on any halfway-decent game that is released tells me a lot more about you.
For one thing, you clearly have nothing else to occupy yourself with, or spend your money on. It's easy to waste money when somebody else is paying the bills, champ, but maybe you'll even think twice about buying that ****ing stupid Nintendo DSi when you've got rent to pay. Aside from all of that, I've got plenty of other shit I need to spend my money on, from photographic equipment and musical instruments to petrol and alcohol. If you are, in fact, and adult, then … ****. It's a problem.
Also, why would I spend $110 on any game when I could pick up an older game that I still haven't played for 1/5 or even 1/10 the price, and get the same amount of enjoyment out of it? I've bought three new release games in the last six months, but at least twice as many cheap classics.
Finally, the most important and obvious point is this: there's no reason to ever pay $110 much for a new release when retailers would be selling it for $80-$90. It's not a matter of being 'cheap', it's about you being a moron who's getting ripped off. There's a slab of beer's worth of difference between the best price and RRP; only an idiot would pay that much.
So basically, grow the **** up.
aubergine
18-02-2010, 12:03 AM
No need to be abusive.
you have very skewed priorities.
you need to get a ****ing life,
you're willing to waste $110 on any halfway-decent game
you clearly have nothing else to occupy yourself with
It's easy to waste money when somebody else is paying the bills, champ
I've got plenty of other shit I need to spend my money on, from photographic equipment and musical instruments to petrol and alcohol.
If you are, in fact, an adult, then … ****. It's a problem.
it's about you being a moron who's getting ripped off.
There's a slab of beer's worth of difference between the best price and RRP; only an idiot would pay that much.
So basically, grow the **** up.
No need to be abusive.
Wait, what?
holy crap 62,000+ points? :/ and you prefer paying $110/game?
wat
Wait, what?I knew somebody would take issue with that.
The word would be retaliation, aubergine.
I figure I've offended you, as most of it probably applies to you as well?
Cerebral
18-02-2010, 12:54 AM
The only way I'd pay more than $100 for a game is if I was getting something special with it. Even then you can pretty much always find standard edition games cheaper than $100 if you look around.
I've only broken this rule once, when I bought Timesplitters 2 for $105.95. I was furious.
dimorphic
18-02-2010, 01:21 AM
I don't mind spending $100+ if it is a good quality collectors edition. But I normally trade to get those kind's of prices down. Plus staff discount.
Silverwolf
18-02-2010, 01:51 AM
I knew somebody would take issue with that.
The word would be retaliation, aubergine.
I figure I've offended you, as most of it probably applies to you as well?
Oh! look at me! I'm blue!
jwalka
18-02-2010, 08:19 AM
hahaha this is getting fun :D
i have to agree with blue, the prices are shit expensive and not worth it.
games these days last around 12 hours and then its just replay or MP, nothing special, like in RPG's.
if only games had better replay value.
btw if you think 62k points is crazy i saw this guy on CoD with over 120k xbox GS :D thats ****ing crazy
concrete donkey
18-02-2010, 08:30 AM
No need to be abusive.
But placing such a high value on a video game, as an adult, would make me believe that you have very skewed priorities. One look at your Gamerscore already tells me that you need to get a ****ing life, but the fact that you're willing to waste $110 on any halfway-decent game that is released tells me a lot more about you.
For one thing, you clearly have nothing else to occupy yourself with, or spend your money on. It's easy to waste money when somebody else is paying the bills, champ, but maybe you'll even think twice about buying that ****ing stupid Nintendo DSi when you've got rent to pay. Aside from all of that, I've got plenty of other shit I need to spend my money on, from photographic equipment and musical instruments to petrol and alcohol. If you are, in fact, and adult, then … ****. It's a problem.
Also, why would I spend $110 on any game when I could pick up an older game that I still haven't played for 1/5 or even 1/10 the price, and get the same amount of enjoyment out of it? I've bought three new release games in the last six months, but at least twice as many cheap classics.
Finally, the most important and obvious point is this: there's no reason to ever pay $110 much for a new release when retailers would be selling it for $80-$90. It's not a matter of being 'cheap', it's about you being a moron who's getting ripped off. There's a slab of beer's worth of difference between the best price and RRP; only an idiot would pay that much.
So basically, grow the **** up.
Hahaha, you're funny :p
Cobla
18-02-2010, 08:46 AM
But placing such a high value on a video game, as an adult, would make me believe that you have very skewed priorities. One look at your Gamerscore already tells me that you need to get a ****ing life, but the fact that you're willing to waste $110 on any halfway-decent game that is released tells me a lot more about you.
For one thing, you clearly have nothing else to occupy yourself with, or spend your money on. It's easy to waste money when somebody else is paying the bills, champ, but maybe you'll even think twice about buying that ****ing stupid Nintendo DSi when you've got rent to pay. Aside from all of that, I've got plenty of other shit I need to spend my money on, from photographic equipment and musical instruments to petrol and alcohol. If you are, in fact, and adult, then … ****. It's a problem.I think you're off the mark, but rather than address Donkey's situation I'll address mine.
I'm 32, I work full time, have a wife and no kids. I have a lot of disposable income. To me, $110 is not a lot of money, or at least, it's not so much that in order to buy the games I want I need sacrifice any other aspect of my busy life.
Yes, I spend a bit on games. But I also spend a lot more on food, rent, beer, musical instruments / recording gear and going out with friends / the wife.
So I have "a life" and yes that life includes the occasional full priced game. Usuallly if I have to go out of my way to save $20 on the RRP I won't bother. Why? Because I generally buy games on my lunch break, and being a private contractor I can actually make more than $20 in the time it would take me to drive up to JB.
And even if I did go to the trouble of saving $20, the slab of beer that you speak of wouldn't actually be worth drinking. ;) What do you drink anyway, VB? *shudder*
igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!
18-02-2010, 09:51 AM
I knew somebody would take issue with that.
The word would be retaliation, aubergine.
I figure I've offended you, as most of it probably applies to you as well?
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2111/45/6/1349881352/n1349881352_246988_9758.jpg
I'm glad I didn't watch the gametrailers video review before playing, especially since
The part where the teleport plasmid itself plays a game of cat and mouse with you was probably one of the more enjoyably unexpected bits, which they end up ruining in the video review while the voiceover talks about not spoiling the good bits. Lol
Cobla
18-02-2010, 02:33 PM
I wish you could actually use that plasmid in the sequel. It was one of the more interesting cuts from the first game.
jwalka
18-02-2010, 04:20 PM
i would rather see that sonic boom from #1 be remade. its funny watching enemies fly across rooms along with everything else you can telekinesis.
i've decided to finish the game, and hopefully get most the achievements, therefore i dont have to play it again and can return it for close to purchase price (through my dodgy methods :D )
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2111/45/6/1349881352/n1349881352_246988_9758.jpgFree give-away from uni bar, worn once in jest. Point in posting that image in this thread? None.
Get some friends.
AranchineD
18-02-2010, 04:45 PM
Yeah super8, listen to JimmyKane!
igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!
18-02-2010, 05:28 PM
Free give-away from uni bar, worn once in jest. Point in posting that image in this thread? None.
Get some friends.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/infinate_ammo/indian.gif?t=1266476166
concrete donkey
18-02-2010, 06:23 PM
I knew somebody would take issue with that.
The word would be retaliation, aubergine.
I figure I've offended you, as most of it probably applies to you as well?
You really are a dickhead arnt you?
jwalka
18-02-2010, 09:15 PM
yeah blue who the **** do you think you are anyways?
all you do is attempt at telling people off, how about you actually read peoples posts and think open minded and actually take in what people write rather than assuming you know wtf their talking about
Spudzilla
18-02-2010, 09:29 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/infinate_ammo/indian.gif?t=1266476166
"Synthia used to drink Slurm"
dimorphic
19-02-2010, 01:33 AM
So this game has really grown on me. I was underwhelmed at the start and really didn't feel like even finishing it but after pushing through I am now loving it.
yeah blue who the **** do you think you are anyways?
all you do is attempt at telling people off, how about you actually read peoples posts and think open minded and actually take in what people write rather than assuming you know wtf their talking aboutDude, nobody knows what you're talking about, least of all you.
Silverwolf
19-02-2010, 04:47 AM
Dude, nobody knows what you're talking about, least of all you.
He's actually got a comprehensible point, for once.
Anyway, Shut the **** up, all you idiots.
(back on topic)
Just finished the game moments ago, and I don't know what to think, I enjoyed the game a lot, but I had trouble immersing myself in it unlike the first one. I have no faults with the story and quite liked it personally, found it all interesting. I also quite enjoyed the gameplay (although for some strange reason my plasmids kept bugging out and i couldnt cast/change them)
And while the end was much better than the first, something stops me from hailing the game as brilliant/amazing/incredible. It's possible I may just need another playthrough with less distractions.
May be able to clarify my thoughts later, but it's not like anyone cares what i think!
Plus, it was more satisfying than ME2!
dimorphic
19-02-2010, 11:17 AM
Plus, it was more satisfying than ME2!
Blasphomey!
Zeph101
19-02-2010, 01:33 PM
So this game has really grown on me. I was underwhelmed at the start and really didn't feel like even finishing it but after pushing through I am now loving it.
I feel exactly the same way. I remember reading a good description of this game as 'a sequel we didn't realise was necessary until you've played it'.
dimorphic
19-02-2010, 01:43 PM
I feel exactly the same way. I remember reading a good description of this game as 'a sequel we didn't realise was necessary until you've played it'.
Sounds about right.
A refreshing change considering how many games these days end on a To Be Continued GET THE NEXT GAME note.
jwalka
19-02-2010, 04:34 PM
finished a hour or so ago.
so much lag in the end where you have to survive the final assault.
level 3 plasmids really kick ass.
i wonder what the next one will be about, i think the quote "for us rapture was only the beginning" hints that well rapture is done with.
Ninjalada
20-02-2010, 12:18 AM
I just don't think the characters are as strong as those in the first game. Ryan and Fontaine were great.
dimorphic
20-02-2010, 12:31 AM
Yeah Lamb is a weak Ryan substitute. However I never wanted to kill Ryan, where as I will enjoy gutting Lamb.
i wonder what the next one will be about, i think the quote "for us rapture was only the beginning" hints that well rapture is done with.
Yeah, I think rapture has done all it can, considering how little the devs seemed to really open it up in 2. Aub (i think?) is right in saying it was pretty silly how when you look out into the city from water you see huge skyscraper style buildings yet every area you visit is only a few stories at most, and while it worked for game design, it wasn't very well designed from a city perspective.
aubergine
20-02-2010, 11:51 AM
I'd like Ryan's bastard son from the surface to build a domed New Atlantis but doomed to repeat his father's mistakes and voice actor.
Citizen Erased
20-02-2010, 05:20 PM
I want to see Rapture before it turned to crap.
freeradical
20-02-2010, 06:43 PM
I want to see Rapture before it turned to crap.
Or just as it started to turn.
concrete donkey
20-02-2010, 06:47 PM
I doubt there will be a bioshock 3 unfortunately :(
jwalka
20-02-2010, 06:59 PM
there will be #3.. depending on sales, and so far i think bioshock 2 has been making some money (assuming everyone who bought the original bought this PoS).
my point is most dev's continue making sequels until the stop making heaps of money (CoD is a good example).
i only have a few achievements left so i might start a new game (despite hating the game from day 1).
i really really like the plasmid upgrade system, possible the best thing the game had...
equal tie with playing as a little one
banjoeskimo
21-02-2010, 09:11 AM
i only have a few achievements left so i might start a new game (despite hating the game from day 1)
I've only got half my sandwich left, so I might eat it, despite the fact it gave me food poisoning last time and I really hate throwing up.
What the f--- is wrong with you?
concrete donkey
21-02-2010, 09:16 AM
Its good news that Bioshock2 is getting DLC. I couldnt find out what it will be or when.
McChimp
21-02-2010, 09:24 AM
I want to see Rapture before it turned to crap.
Something showing the main characters starting to clash and the beginning of the downfall would be cool, although I'm guessing it'd almost be a completely different game. Maybe have the player in the role of one of the citizens of Rapture that didn't turn themselves into a walking freakshow.
Frostillicus
21-02-2010, 10:05 AM
I think that if they return to Rapture again, they will need to do a little more than deteriorate it some more. The locations in part 2 felt fresh at the beginning, then after Ryan Amusements, it was too similar (though playing as a little sister was kinda cool).
I was playing Bioshock 1 again yesterday up till we meet Sander Cohen, and i say, the original game is much more balanced, better paced than part 2.
I think they missed the mark a little on part 2, but lets hope part 3 is a kickass game.
jwalka
21-02-2010, 12:55 PM
is it me or does your multiplayer character deform as you rank up ?
i saw the football player with a hunchback and blisters on his face.
i hope the DLc isnt like the 1st ones, just some shitty plasmids and alot of lag.
they said MP would be a prequel to the game, but it does nothing but tell us we're testing shit... we knew that in #1 - shit went crazy, but HOW wtf really happened.
it would have been good if we got more insight as to how everything started falling apart, i doubt it happened overnight
dimorphic
21-02-2010, 01:15 PM
I think that if they return to Rapture again, they will need to do a little more than deteriorate it some more. The locations in part 2 felt fresh at the beginning, then after Ryan Amusements, it was too similar (though playing as a little sister was kinda cool).
I was playing Bioshock 1 again yesterday up till we meet Sander Cohen, and i say, the original game is much more balanced, better paced than part 2.
I think they missed the mark a little on part 2, but lets hope part 3 is a kickass game.
Absolutley need to use spoiler tags dude.
jawsy
21-02-2010, 01:41 PM
Quoting it has really helped.
AranchineD
21-02-2010, 01:43 PM
"SANDER COHEN IS A SPOILER" IS AlSPOILER
jawsy
21-02-2010, 01:51 PM
I'll be honest; I've read the whole thread and I'm not even sure what this game is about.
dimorphic
21-02-2010, 02:00 PM
Quoting it has really helped.
Indeed, I'm awesome like that.
jwalka
21-02-2010, 03:44 PM
@ jawsy
you basically end up in rapture again looking for a particular little sister. a women named sophia lamb tries to screw you up, alot of shit happens (spoilers, thr truth etc) and you end up killing a whole lot of splicers.
thats pretty much it, the story is no where near as good as the 1st and the graphics are very bad (even though they spent millions making the game) so you arent really missing out on much
Ninjalada
22-02-2010, 12:32 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/JuGGaL0_JoE/ACDBioShock2.jpg
Zeph101
22-02-2010, 12:23 PM
they said MP would be a prequel to the game, but it does nothing but tell us we're testing shit... we knew that in #1 - shit went crazy, but HOW wtf really happened.
it would have been good if we got more insight as to how everything started falling apart, i doubt it happened overnight
Personally, I would like at least one third of the game set outside of Rapture, in 1940s New York. Imagine what they could do with that. Maybe you could take the roll of Frank Fontaine?
jwalka
22-02-2010, 02:58 PM
@ zeph
it wouldnt be rapture without the underwater city. but i really do hope they put more effort into #3.
Just finished the game and I was pleasently surprised with it. Ill agree that when it started I was a bit unsure but It got to a point where I couldnt wait to keep going. I actually found that the game invoked emotion out of me with its ending which is rare and good. However i was incredibly dissapointed...
when I found I wasnt able to rip Sophia Lamb limb from limb. I suspect it wouldve been very satisfying.
Frostillicus
26-02-2010, 12:12 PM
I bought the collection of the Twilight Zone on DVD a few weeks back. While watching season one, i thought the intro theme sounded familiar. I worked out that it's similar to the 'Bioshock 2 - Welcome back to Rapture theme'
Not suggesting that 2K copied it, but i just thought it's interesting.
Its got that similar eerie sound
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Ninjalada
26-02-2010, 11:20 PM
However i was incredibly dissapointed...
when I found I wasnt able to rip Sophia Lamb limb from limb. I suspect it wouldve been very satisfying.
Oh yeah, I was waiting all game to do that.
jwalka
27-02-2010, 12:23 AM
Spoilers
hahha watching her drown was pretty good, but nothing compared to beating ryans head in with a golf club, that was entertainment in its best :D
Ninjalada
27-02-2010, 12:57 AM
hahha watching her drown was pretty good, but nothing compared to beating ryans head in with a golf club, that was entertainment in its best :D
Spoilers FFS.
Frostillicus
27-02-2010, 09:37 AM
Spoilers FFS.
lol. Everything in this thread is a spoiler.
tried playing some multiplayer tonight. Got booted at least 3 times. May aswell play MW2.
jwalka
28-02-2010, 10:22 AM
its weird MP on bioshock is more stable for me than CoD MW. i've been disconnected about 3 times in total for bioshock and something like 6 in one day for CoD.
does anyone know if battlefield bad company 2 is like this to ?
aubergine
28-02-2010, 01:04 PM
Spoilers FFS.
What is it with people lately quoting spoilers so they repeat the spoiler?
Ninjalada
28-02-2010, 08:04 PM
What is it with people lately quoting spoilers so they repeat the spoiler?
My post was directly underneath the spoiler post so...?
Ninjalada
28-02-2010, 11:00 PM
OMFG, I have just gotten stuck in a gap between a staircase and a wall and I can't move or jump. I'm going to have to reload my last save from half an hour ago.
****!
banjoeskimo
01-03-2010, 06:19 AM
Yeah, that happened to me in Siren Alley. I tried unlocking a door with hacking, and it jammed on a splicer, trapping me.
its weird MP on bioshock is more stable for me than CoD MW. i've been disconnected about 3 times in total for bioshock and something like 6 in one day for CoD.
does anyone know if battlefield bad company 2 is like this to ?
I've been disconnected on BioShock more times than MW2.
banjoeskimo
01-03-2010, 09:37 AM
Really? Ouch. Out of 10+ hours of multiplayer play time I've been disconnected three times, and it's frozen twice. So not great? But not bad, considering.
The only thing that truly bugs me about multi is the inconsistency of the A button prompts. Sometimes you think you're in range of hacking / scanning something, and you just aren't, despite being in close proximity. Not a big deal, but I've certainly died a few times due to the few wasted seconds it takes to get yourself in a position the game deems ideal.
jwalka
01-03-2010, 10:33 AM
yeah the games crashed on me once or twice. i dont play multiplayer because characters glitch, it makes it hard to shoot people who just appear in another area. not only that but theres no sense of strategy, i've only played 2 games where players have actually made a strong defense and had done their job properly.
in most cases players just run around shooting each other, its like they dont understand what capture/defend the little sister means.
banjoeskimo
01-03-2010, 02:00 PM
Yeah, you definitely need to get through a few levels before you'll find decent players. Once you get past the n00b factor and most of the players in a match are level 10 and above you'll start to see some real nifty teamwork.
jwalka
01-03-2010, 03:23 PM
i hit level 10 a while ago (havent played in a week) and i didnt see much change. i was up against 3 level 20+ players and i still managed to give them a fight.
imo they should have focused on story/graphic/gameplay and totally left out MP. bioshock doesnt need MP, hence why the 1st one was so good.
Sytadel
01-03-2010, 03:41 PM
Bought a copy of this today, haven't played BioShock 1 - is it essential to appreciate BioShock 2?
banjoeskimo
01-03-2010, 03:45 PM
It'll significantly enhance your understanding / enjoyment of the second game and arguably was the better game / story. So, yeah, pretty much.
Frostillicus
02-03-2010, 03:31 PM
Bought a copy of this today, haven't played BioShock 1 - is it essential to appreciate BioShock 2?
Playing Bioshock 1 is worth it, just to understand the background of the city and civilians itself. But it is not essential. You could just read up on it in Wikipedia, and view a few parts on youtube.
My opinion = Get yourself Bioshock 1, play it, love it, eat it. Bioshock 2 isn't really that good. Unbalanced gameplay, frustrating enemy A.I (no strategy at all). Don't spoil BS1 by playing BS2 first.
BS2 is... BS!
jwalka
02-03-2010, 07:16 PM
frost nailed it on the spot.
Cerebral
02-03-2010, 08:17 PM
I hate how updates are done through Windows Live instead of Steam. I have to actually start upt he game before being prompted, and they're super-slow, too.
Basically I hate Windows Live.
Cerebral
06-03-2010, 02:06 AM
Wow. The game was pretty ordinary most of the way through, but got really great in the last third of the game. Awesome (if slightly drawn out) ending sequence.
Ninjalada
07-03-2010, 06:41 PM
I'm on my second playthrough and I just found something pretty cool that I didn't find the first time.
In the marketing section of Fontaine Futuristics there's an Unstable Teleport Plasmid vile that keeps on teleporting all throughout the level. After chasing it for a while, you get teleported to some random locations and then finally to a secret room with a bunch of frozen people and the Vending Expert 2 tonic.
jwalka
07-03-2010, 09:52 PM
@ ninjalada
knew that ages ago, idk how you could have missed that one, its in the area with the electric floor isnt it?
Ninjalada
07-03-2010, 11:12 PM
Yeah, it's near the electrified water floor room. I don't know how I missed it the first time either.
Speaking of electricity, I don't like it how the other 2 elemental plasmids (Incinerate and Winter Blast) are not nearly as useful as Electro Bolt. You get it for free, it instantly kills enemies that are standing in water, it open special doors and it looks cooler.
Cerebral
08-03-2010, 12:29 AM
I actually used winter blast more than electro shock towards the end. Iceblock + drill dash = instant kill.
jwalka
08-03-2010, 09:48 AM
insect swarm + incinerate = ****ing owneage.
Ninjalada
08-03-2010, 09:51 AM
You don't even need Incinerate when you use Insect Swarm 3. You just unleash the bugs and walk away.
jwalka
08-03-2010, 10:40 AM
i like multi DoTing enemies, much more entertaining watching them burn to death whilst being attacked by insects :D
Ninjalada
08-03-2010, 05:22 PM
It would be cool if you could combine the two.
Flaming bugs FTW!
jwalka
08-03-2010, 05:36 PM
hahaha, its funny watching them swatting flies... and burning at the same time, its like they dont know which to prioritise hehehhe
banjoeskimo
09-03-2010, 09:24 AM
I will say, setting a cyclone trap of bees was awesome. Not really practical in the heat of combat, but awesome when it worked. I mean it's a cyclone. Of bees. That then hole up in bodies and wait to kill yet more splicers.
Say what you will about BioShock 2, but c'mon, a bee cyclone? That's f---ing win right there.
Also, insect swarm is way better than it was in the first game, I found myself using it frequently, whereas it was kinda weak and pissy in the original.
Really? :S I remember busting it out frequently in BS1 to stun large groups for easy takedown.
Ninjalada
09-03-2010, 10:26 AM
The other day I charged a cyclone trap with cyclone trap. I'm not sure if it actually made any difference though.
igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!
20-03-2010, 11:56 PM
Just started playing through this recently and while I have only been playing for an hour or so, I'm loving it. I'm gonna have to eat some crow because I really wasn't looking forward to a Bioshock sequel, but I love Rapture and I love snooping around every inch of it, I'd say it's probably my favourite setting so far this gen.
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