Left 4 Dead 2 - The Sacrifice Add-on Available Now [Archive] - Page 3

Creedy

18-11-2009, 07:59 PM

I am over it though, I just can't be bothered getting into the same old argument. Yes, given the choice maybe - I haven't been a PC gamer for years so I don't know enough about it anymore, but it just used to shit me to tears, the constant crashing, installing, upgrading. Oh god the upgrading!

PC gaming is no where near that bad, you just don't know what you are doing.
If your PC kept crashing and required constant installing and upgrading then you didn't know how to maintain your PC.

SOX

18-11-2009, 08:01 PM

Despite the fact both my gaming laptop AND my desktop died within weeks of eachother (and are still dead), I'd rather play it on PC.

Jay

18-11-2009, 08:05 PM

PC gaming is no where near that bad, you just don't know what you are doing.
If your PC kept crashing and required constant installing and upgrading then you didn't know how to maintain your PC.

Um, whatever, dickhead. I knew exactly what I was doing. It was still a ****ing nightmare. It gave me the shits that I couldn't just put the ****ing disc in and run the game. I may be a bit of a retard when it comes to things technological but I knew enough to recognise when an entire system was completely counter-intuitive. So **** off. Take your PC snobbery and shove it five miles up your arse.

EDIT: It should be further noted that my PC gaming experience is based on experiences from a number of years ago. I'm sure things are easier now. In fact I know they are. But back then they were a ****ing nightmare. Still not going to take crap from that cockhead.

Creedy

18-11-2009, 08:13 PM

You getting all defensive about it shows that you possibly didn't know what you were doing. I have been playing games on PC for the past 13 years or so. During those first years, yes it was painful as I didn't know what I was doing.
But I learnt as time went on.

PC gaming is the most flexible platform you could play your games on.

texta

18-11-2009, 08:17 PM

I'd go with Creedy on this. If I had more money and more time to get into games then I'd without question be primarily a PC gamer.

Hyperblau

18-11-2009, 08:18 PM

PC gaming is the most flexible platform you could play your games on.

That flexibility is also its greatest weakness. PC gaming is buggy and performs inconsistently. Consoles just work and that's why developers are focusing on consoles not PC, there's a lot more variables on PC and it takes time to develop for that.

That being said, some of the best games I've ever played are on PC. It's just not for everyone and no one should be criticised for not wanting to deal with the platform.

/backslash

18-11-2009, 08:18 PM

Creedy, just leave him alone & let him be happy with his consoles. Some people just prefer simplicity over complexity for the sake of a single game

Hyperblau

18-11-2009, 08:22 PM

I haven't played a game on my PC since Far Cry 2 and I didn't even finish that because I prefer playing on my big screen sitting on my couch. Consoles just offer the better experience for most games these days.

L4D2 I wouldn't even bother with on console however.

Shorty

18-11-2009, 08:22 PM

Jay has a point, though - complexity to the point of turning away users is a problem.

Afrogamer

18-11-2009, 08:25 PM

Fellas, fellas theres no need for fighting...theres enough afro to go around :D

JubeiSaotome

18-11-2009, 08:32 PM

Consoles need to have keyboard and mouse as an option. I don't care about the arguments. If console had this option, I'd likely jump over straight away. Being able to play as intended would be awesome, rather than needing to upgrade.

Antwandemarco

18-11-2009, 08:42 PM

Why would anyone bother buying a PC game on 360 instead? The mind boggles

Being a multiplayer game it makes sense to go with the platform i have a lot of contacts on. This game for me is all about playing with friends, of which i have far more IRL on xbox live than on steam.

I'm not disputing which is the superior platform in terms of gameplay and graphics - that should be obvious to anyone with half a brain.

Edit: I may even end up buying it on both platforms as i did with the original (so's i can play with my brother). :P

Spudzilla

18-11-2009, 08:45 PM

Installing it now.

SOX

18-11-2009, 08:48 PM

Being a multiplayer game it makes sense to go with the platform i have a lot of contacts on. This game for me is all about playing with friends, of which i have far more IRL on xbox live than on steam.

I'm not disputing which is the superior platform in terms of gameplay and graphics - that should be obvious to anyone with half a brain.

I just assume with a game like this it would have more multiplayer legs (at least in the long term) on the PC. As opposed to XBL where it's kind of a game of the month kind of flow with multiplayer (aside from the block busters).

EDIT: and the whole free content stuff like with TF2 on steam definitely helps as well.

texta

18-11-2009, 08:51 PM

Jay has a point, though - complexity to the point of turning away users is a problem.I don't think he really does. Perhaps I'm just lucky but I haven't really had a lot of problems playing games on my PC.

That said I have fairly different focuses for the types of games I play on my PC compared to my ps3 so there's no real problem. We can talk about the best platform for fps games forever, but I don't think you could ever get serious about rts without being a PC gamer.

AranchineD

18-11-2009, 09:01 PM

PC provided some of the most enjoyable gaming experiences in my life.

...up until about 2001/2002. After that I just stopped caring.

Spudzilla

18-11-2009, 10:18 PM

Yeah, think I will return this tomorrow and import it or something. It's just... too lame.

Shorty

18-11-2009, 11:20 PM

I don't think he really does. Perhaps I'm just lucky but I haven't really had a lot of problems playing games on my PC.

That said I have fairly different focuses for the types of games I play on my PC compared to my ps3 so there's no real problem. We can talk about the best platform for fps games forever, but I don't think you could ever get serious about rts without being a PC gamer.

I'll give you that one. If I was playing a RTS, it'd be on PC.

Watchers

18-11-2009, 11:27 PM

Yeah, think I will return this tomorrow and import it or something. It's just... too lame.

Good luck returning a purchased game on Steam.

I agree with Jubei - if consoles had mouse/keyboard support, I'd be a lot more inclined to play a FPS on a console than I am now.

Also, played a full versus game with Surg, Slip, Jubei with cameos from Spud and Tsplodey. It was awesome. Jockeys are ridiculously hilarious to use, and it's refreshing to see survs struggling to make it halfway through a map. Though offering melee and pistols only at the start of the game is a bit silly - melee weapons are nice as a sidearm, but trying to only use them is madness (OHELLOMRBOOMER).

Spudzilla

18-11-2009, 11:57 PM

Good luck returning a purchased game on Steam.

I had a look and Steam keys can be transferred to accounts, so I shouldn't have much of a problem.

JubeiSaotome

19-11-2009, 12:01 AM

Though offering melee and pistols only at the start of the game is a bit silly

That's only in Hotel of Dead Center. I think it's a pacing/plot thing.

Jay

19-11-2009, 12:23 AM

There's a plot?

JubeiSaotome

19-11-2009, 01:20 AM

Yes, more so than the first Left 4 Dead. The whole set of campaigns are strung together seamlessly, characters quotes make up the light storyline, but it's enough to understand what's happening.

Lex

19-11-2009, 08:49 AM

Um, whatever, dickhead. I knew exactly what I was doing. It was still a ****ing nightmare. It gave me the shits that I couldn't just put the ****ing disc in and run the game. I may be a bit of a retard when it comes to things technological but I knew enough to recognise when an entire system was completely counter-intuitive. So **** off. Take your PC snobbery and shove it five miles up your arse.

EDIT: It should be further noted that my PC gaming experience is based on experiences from a number of years ago. I'm sure things are easier now. In fact I know they are. But back then they were a ****ing nightmare. Still not going to take crap from that cockhead.

hahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

magic.

Slippery

19-11-2009, 09:02 AM

Though offering melee and pistols only at the start of the game is a bit silly - melee weapons are nice as a sidearm, but trying to only use them is madness (OHELLOMRBOOMER).

I mentioned it thrice but you were too busy bitching too listen :p, that's because it's the start of the serious outbreak so they aren't loaded up with grenade launchers just yet. I actually thought it was kinda cool to force you to use axes and pistols for half a level.

Clockw0rk

19-11-2009, 09:20 AM

Just chiming in on the PC thing...
I've had my computer since February last year and it'll still run new releases on max settings at 1920x1080 without slowdown.
I'll look at upgrading sometime next year depending on what games come out - at that point it'll just be the processor that gets upgraded, maybe the motherboard.

People put far too much emphasis on upgrading. Sure, new components come out every 6 months (hell, every 6 weeks) and a new PC now is considerably cheaper than the same spec PC 18 months ago. That doesn't mean it's crap.

Given that even console games are now being released full of bugs and Day 1 patches are common for big titles, I don't see why there's a lot of hate for PC gaming.

sheeps

19-11-2009, 11:19 AM

This is the gayest argument ever.

No. He said it for the fun of it.

Yeah, excuse me for being a little pensive about spending $50 on something I could possibly hate. Last I heard the app change only worked for singleplayer so I wanted to be sure it worked. I'm still gonna get someone to gift it anyway.

Watchers

19-11-2009, 12:28 PM

I mentioned it thrice but you were too busy bitching too listen :p, that's because it's the start of the serious outbreak so they aren't loaded up with grenade launchers just yet. I actually thought it was kinda cool to force you to use axes and pistols for half a level.

It would be cool if boomers (and smokers, to a lesser extent) didn't spawn.

Highlight of last night was my jockey-riding tsplodey into the burning room away from team mates and incapping him.

adam_91vn

19-11-2009, 12:34 PM

With the 360 version if you import then play an australian does the game revert to the censored version?

Cobla

19-11-2009, 12:47 PM

Nah it's only censored for the players with the censored disc.

In fact the only thing that did get changed for all users (the riot cop special infected wouldn't spawn if there was an Aussie in the game) has apparently now been patched.

Slippery

19-11-2009, 01:08 PM

TSplodey

19-11-2009, 03:32 PM

It would be cool if boomers (and smokers, to a lesser extent) didn't spawn.

Highlight of last night was my jockey-riding tsplodey into the burning room away from team mates and incapping him.
Man I had some hopeless Survivor team mates last night. A lot later on I was doing a Hard Rain versus and a Smoker pulled me off the roof of the first house we climbed onto and it incapped me before someone killed it. /facepalm

concrete donkey

19-11-2009, 04:35 PM

Is the AU version as bad as IGN makes out?

Cobla

19-11-2009, 04:45 PM

After playing the censored demo many times I would have to say yes, I think they are right on the money (http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/104/1047522p1.html). :(

Watchers

19-11-2009, 04:54 PM

Pistol deals with boomer fine...?

I was talking about melee weapons which you can only carry instead of a pistol...? It effectively makes the pistol the only real option. Which is fine, but not the most effective thing in dealing with a horde of zombies and a co-ordinated special infected strike - it just makes the first round ridiculously frustrating.

/backslash

19-11-2009, 04:56 PM

I agree with everything that AU IGN said about that game, just playing the demo showed you everything that was wrong

The local boxart

http://images.3ps.com.au/x226/5c625aba7b5befc959f6c1981934e6ed.jpg

"Strong bloody violence" "MA15+"? How on earth could it be rated MA? Fail. I'm surprised the title wasn't censored either to something like Left4Safety. My copy just got shipped from the UK yesterday, should be here by next week

AranchineD

19-11-2009, 04:57 PM

Well, couldn't some people take pistols and some take melee weapons, and then you work together so one of you doesn't get caught out only fighting a boomer with a melee weapon?

Watchers

19-11-2009, 04:59 PM

Well, couldn't some people take pistols and some take melee weapons, and then you work together so one of you doesn't get caught out only fighting a boomer with a melee weapon?

In the middle of a horde, picking off a boomer that only you notice is immensely useful. Rather than shouting 'Hey there's a boomer over there! Not there, THERE!' It also saves you running up and hacking at smokers. I dunno. Maybe one dude should take a melee weapon, and three others take pistols.

Shorty

19-11-2009, 05:01 PM

"Strong bloody violence" "MA15+"? How on earth could it be rated MA? Fail. I'm surprised the title wasn't censored either to something like Left4Safety. My copy just got shipped from the UK yesterday, should be here by next week

I think the "bloody" part is the most inaccurate considering how little blood exists in the Australian version.

/backslash

19-11-2009, 05:06 PM

I like it how they used the word "bloody" though which ties in with our aussie slang especially from the tourist ad phrase "Where there bloody hell are ya?" but for this game the phrase would be "Where the bloody hell is all the bloody blood?"

concrete donkey

19-11-2009, 05:18 PM

I guess it will still sell pretty good.. alot of people may not know its the shit version.

Starscream

19-11-2009, 09:14 PM

No one has received their uncensored import copy of L4D2 (360 or PS3) yet? *

*Not an opportunity for New Zealand Hyper members to piss off Australians because the Australian version of L4D2 is LAME.

Cobla

20-11-2009, 09:41 AM

No one has received their uncensored import copy of L4D2 (360) yet?Holy shit, mine just arrived!!!!! I can barely contain my excitement right now!!! :D

Slippery

20-11-2009, 10:28 AM

I just played through The Parish, I really dig the way that most crescendo events have you doing something now, usually running the **** towards something to make it shutup.

Also is it just me or does Coach sound a lot like Cutty from The Wire?

Edit: haha it totally is him, awesome.

Lazlow

20-11-2009, 10:32 AM

Worth importing if 90% of the time you'll be playing solo?

Slippery

20-11-2009, 10:39 AM

Did you play the first one? It's essentially the same game just significantly better in a lot of ways.

If you were happy to play that single-player you'll be happy to do it with this one to.

Lazlow

20-11-2009, 10:43 AM

Nah, never played the first because it seemed the emphasis was on online co-op.

But I'm finding it hard to resist a good zombie slaughter, and Darren Wells commented once that the AI bots made compentent partners.

Slippery

20-11-2009, 10:46 AM

You'll still get that initial thrill of zombies rushing you and you'll probably really enjoy it, but the real replay value is in playing it with other people and you probably won't get more than about five - six hours out of it single player, and even then the A.I. for your companions isn't great.

I'd say just rent it but then it'd be censored, so considering all the other games out I'd give it a miss.

Lazlow

20-11-2009, 10:56 AM

Six hours is plenty for me. I'm not one for long drawn out epics, nor to I always have the time, so if I can get six hours of awesome fun out of a game I'm happy.

Plus its not as if I'll never go online, I just prefer something organised (like Forza is here) than just jumping in with randoms.

Watchers

20-11-2009, 11:31 AM

Worth importing if 90% of the time you'll be playing solo?

Hell no. This game is made for multiplayer, and singleplayer is shit boring. Also, playing with randoms is generally a horrible experience - you really need to team up with mates.

Cobla

20-11-2009, 11:51 AM

I agree that multi is at least 500-1000 times more fun, but single player is still decent enough. It's certainly good for learning the ropes.

Also I can't speak for PC but with the 1st game I've had heaps of great games with randoms on XBL. Yes sometimes they're dicks, but that's what the Kick Player function is for. ;)

Edit: Just played through the first three levels of Dead Centre. It's awesome, as expected, though I'd have to say the uncensored version is far from the goriest game I've ever played. It's not even as gory as Dead Space, and neither is it particularly realistic, so I found it hard to see why the ACB singled it out for an RC.

sheeps

20-11-2009, 01:09 PM

Just bought it and realised I don't have enough cap on peak or off peak to download it. **** life.

Slippery

20-11-2009, 01:24 PM

I don't really understand why no one enjoys playing anything but versus, I like playing co-op campaigns on advanced (maybe expert if I actually know the people).

Cobla

20-11-2009, 01:39 PM

Yeah I'm not a huge Versus fan, it feels more like a bonus mode to me than the main event.

Slippery

20-11-2009, 01:55 PM

I get frustrated playing versus as my survivor team fights off wave after wave of shit, getting boomed on, spat on, charged and just generally beat the **** up. Once I'm on infected unless I jockey/smoke some dude far away form the group or knock someone off a building I don't get the satisfaction out of it to counter the frustration.

Still fun though <.<

SOX

20-11-2009, 02:55 PM

Anything other than Versus is shit boring IMO

Watchers

20-11-2009, 06:21 PM

Anything other than Versus is shit boring IMO

Exactly. Playing as infected is 100 times more fun than playing as survs.

Azzaman

20-11-2009, 08:10 PM

I don't really understand why no one enjoys playing anything but versus, I like playing co-op campaigns on advanced (maybe expert if I actually know the people).

Not with me you don't ;)

Slippery

21-11-2009, 10:32 PM

Anyone from New Zealand (or just not Australia <.<) willing to get us another copy of this over Steam? I'm happy to paypal you the money or trade you another steam game.

JubeiSaotome

21-11-2009, 11:46 PM

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tau

22-11-2009, 01:43 AM

So my friend said his US uncensored l4d2 was just censored.... lol?

/backslash

22-11-2009, 01:53 AM

VqyNS7ZdY1A
Lol, 3x fail

So my friend said his US uncensored l4d2 was just censored.... lol?
What?! **** no! Digital or physical copy?

tau

22-11-2009, 03:30 AM

digital via steam gift thingy

REQUIEM

22-11-2009, 04:35 AM

No one has received their uncensored import copy of L4D2 (360 or PS3) yet? *

*Not an opportunity for New Zealand Hyper members to piss off Australians because the Australian version of L4D2 is LAME.

Yep I have the full blood chainsaw uncut version on 360. Shame it will be single offline gaming but its worth it to shove it up atkinsons arse. It was more of a principle thing than a need for the game as I never even played L4D.

Cobla

22-11-2009, 09:20 AM

It's awesome, as expected, though I'd have to say the uncensored version is far from the goriest game I've ever played. It's not even as gory as Dead Space, and neither is it particularly realistic, so I found it hard to see why the ACB singled it out for an RC.Now that I've played the uncensored 360 version a bit more it's a lot easier to see why it got banned. With the katana, the machete and the chainsaw especially the gore can be pretty intense. That said it's still appropriate and really is very stylised so it's more satisfying than confronting or disturbing.

One thing that does bother me however is that there's a Low Gore setting in the options menu which removes decapitation and limb severing (and some lesser effects). What I wanna know is, why couldn't Valve submit that version to the censors? It would be pretty much the same level of gore as L4D1 if they had as there's still blood spatter, lingering bodies and all that other stuff. Cutting these aspects is far more harmful to the game than cutting the gibs.

Anyway for those still in any doubt, yes you can play the uncensored version over Xbox LIVE without any problems. The riot cops are there, the bucketloads of blood and gibs are there and the zombies are definitely flammable! Awesome. :)

Xanafalgue

22-11-2009, 12:23 PM

Anyway for those still in any doubt, yes you can play the uncensored version over Xbox LIVE without any problems. The riot cops are there, the bucketloads of blood and gibs are there and the zombies are definitely flammable! Awesome. :)

Good to hear. I can't wait to (finally) play it. Are people still playing L4D1? I might put in some practice :p

fearofthesky

22-11-2009, 12:42 PM

About to order on Playasia. 49.95 for the Asian 360 version. All info points to it being entirely uncensored, with no way for them to censor it by XBL patch. Fingers crossed...

JubeiSaotome

22-11-2009, 01:02 PM

Riot cops are in censored, who said they weren't?

tau

22-11-2009, 01:08 PM

They weren't initially, but patched back in early on.

Thraxas

23-11-2009, 01:09 PM

So if I use the hack on the PC version does that mean I can only play with other people who are using the hack. Or is there another way to uncensor the game so I can play with everyone?

Antwandemarco

23-11-2009, 04:11 PM

I don't really understand why no one enjoys playing anything but versus, I like playing co-op campaigns on advanced (maybe expert if I actually know the people).

Agreed.

I prefer campaign because it feels like a succinct adventure. Whereas versus just feels too disjointed. Don't get me wrong i still play it and love it, but co-op is my preffered mode.

Still don't have this, going to buy it next pay day...

Is uncensoring still working on the PC?

Slippery

23-11-2009, 04:43 PM

International gift copies certainly are.

Antwandemarco

23-11-2009, 04:49 PM

I meant the one where you alter the file or whatever...

dinopoke

23-11-2009, 05:18 PM

I think so. But you can only play with others who have altered the file as well.

Cobla

23-11-2009, 05:26 PM

For real?

On 360 I've had no issues playing with others, regardless of what version they have. As the censoring is done client-side, shouldn't the PC version be the same?

Btw I was pleasantly surprised to see you can now host matches yourself without "tricking it" like we had to with the 1st. Full green connection FTW! :)

Lex

23-11-2009, 05:29 PM

For real?

On 360 I've had no issues playing with others, regardless of what version they have. As the censoring is done client-side, shouldn't the PC version be the same?

No, the fix for PC alters a file which forces it to run as a deciated server. No achievements and only against other 510 fix users. They're trying to make the 510 community catch on so more are playing, but it's still a shitty situation.

Spazzallo

24-11-2009, 12:36 AM

I've had a look through the last few pages and haven't found it, so just wondering where people with the 360 version have imported their copies from? Cheers.

fearofthesky

24-11-2009, 12:56 AM

I can't see any problems with Playasia for this one. The Asian copy is entirely region free. The dollar seems to be dropping a little, so maybe its time to jump in. I got a 5 dollar voucher somewhere, but the game is US49.95, so I wouldn't be able to use it anyway, unless I buy something else.

Anyone else worried about Customs seizures? I remember I bought Manhunt on ebay, and it took over a month to get here from the UK. It was post stamped the day after I paid for it, but stamped on the envelope was "Missent to Dili" :confused:

I kinda reckon the customs employee who searched it, found the game, played it and sent it on with the Missent to Dili stamp, to cover his arse. I like to think so anyway.

Spazzallo

24-11-2009, 01:16 AM

Rambo

24-11-2009, 04:34 AM

Ugh, I have a huge favor to ask all of you.

Does anyone have a copy of their game on DVD for PC? I purchased it on Steam, realised it was 7gb and can't download that beacuse I only have a 12gb dl limit.

I'll pay for postage and plus a little extra on the side if anyone can lend me their disk.

/backslash

24-11-2009, 04:41 AM

Thraxas

24-11-2009, 08:20 AM

tau

24-11-2009, 09:34 AM

Rambo, you can also ask someone who has downloaded it via steam if you happen to know someone irl, you can backup the game files to a disk.

sheeps

24-11-2009, 12:10 PM

So I finally got this downloaded. Started playing. Feels more like Left4Dead 1.5 >_>

Will need to play a bit more but at the moment I'm a little underwhelmed.

Shorty

24-11-2009, 04:47 PM

I'm rather satisfied with the game, so far. The new weapons are cool (as is the incendiary ammo), the new Special Infected liven things up and the mission objectives are rather neat (e.g. grabbing cola for the gun store owner). Definitely feels like an improvement on the original game.

Azzaman

24-11-2009, 05:17 PM

Pai Mel

24-11-2009, 05:46 PM

/backslash

24-11-2009, 07:24 PM

There's also some instant noodles but they don't look like the good kind.
There are no good kinds of instant noodles :p

I got my game today but I can't play it because my PC is dead atm...yay...

Silverwolf

24-11-2009, 07:30 PM

There are no good kinds of instant noodles :p

Lies! =(

Pai Mel

24-11-2009, 07:31 PM

Pfft. I've been eating instant noodles since a kid. It's how you make it and what stuff you add to it (meat, eggs, and veges) that turn instant noodles into a good meal.

/backslash

24-11-2009, 08:22 PM

Noodles aside, I opened up the case & noticed there's no manual again :( Why is it so hard to include physical manuals with PC games?!

Pai Mel

24-11-2009, 08:27 PM

Do you really need em? Waste of paper. I haven't read a game manual since N64 days.

/backslash

24-11-2009, 08:28 PM

I just like to have a game case that doesn't look like its been pirated with a simple cover & DVD & serial number. I probably wouldn't read it either but I like the extra weight

Natrak

24-11-2009, 08:59 PM

Got my asian copy today and played some splitscreen co-op with a friend. I really enjoyed Dark Carnival (although I didn't wind up finishing that campaign) and I love just about all of the new elements.

Rambo

24-11-2009, 09:33 PM

I can send you my copy. PM me

Thanks man, PM sent.

Are steam files different from the physical copy?

Good god I hope not. Can anyone confirm this?

texta

24-11-2009, 10:12 PM

I opened up the case & noticed there's no manual again :( Why is it so hard to include physical manuals with PC games?!
Print this out and put it in your case:

Point gun at zombies. Pull trigger. Repeat as necessary.

/backslash

24-11-2009, 10:15 PM

Print this out and put it in your case:

Point gun at zombies. Pull trigger. Repeat as necessary.
Thanks! That'll come in handy when I forget what I'm supposed to do in the game aside from running around & screaming into the microphone :p

Pai Mel

24-11-2009, 10:42 PM

Have you seen the economy Xbox 360 game cases they are using now in Asia? They have like pie holes on both sides. So there's hardly anything to protect the disc anymore, apart from the manual and slick. Although it is pretty hard to crack a game disc - just have to protect it from scratches.

/backslash

24-11-2009, 10:44 PM

I noticed whenever I always order PS3 asian games by the time I get it the disc has sprung itself free & started rattling around potentially causing scratches (which I don't seem to get). Somehow I've never received a dud disc though

Pai Mel

25-11-2009, 12:27 AM

http://meldavid.com/photos/videogames/xbox_360/cases/economy.jpg
Case in point.

sheeps

25-11-2009, 02:59 PM

Anyone who has gotten a US game on steam having their online play censored? It's not fully censored like before, just no gibs.

edit: And then they miraculously came back. Very confusing.

Italian Stallion

25-11-2009, 04:04 PM

UK version here, still completely uncensored.

REQUIEM

25-11-2009, 07:14 PM

http://meldavid.com/photos/videogames/xbox_360/cases/economy.jpg
Case in point.

Of all places to have taken cost measures and protection away. LOL dam those profit margins.

Cobla

25-11-2009, 07:45 PM

Anyone who has gotten a US game on steam having their online play censored? It's not fully censored like before, just no gibs.

edit: And then they miraculously came back. Very confusing.Yeah that's happened to me. I think you'll find the matches where there was reduced gore, the host / lobby leader has the censored version. Having just one person who has the censored version doesn't seem to matter, so long as they aren't the leader.

Xanafalgue

25-11-2009, 09:24 PM

Of all places to have taken cost measures and protection away. LOL dam those profit margins.

Its some green initiative that everyone is doing.

fearofthesky

25-11-2009, 10:45 PM

I was thinking that :) Got $12 worth of affiliation credit plus that $8 christmas voucher. Now to find something else to buy that is worth 10 cents!

I'd say the chances of customs seizure are quite small. Don't items just get chucked through a scanner?

Cheers for the advice!

No worries! I'm buying now with your Playasia link, hopefully put a few more bucks towards L4D2.

Still on the subject of inporting and Customs, I'd like to share a non game related story with y'all. You know those shonky ebay sellers from Hong Kong? I'd never buy a game off them (pirate city!) but I bought two lighters, that were listed in Australian dollars. Now, I got the first one okay, but the second one was seized and destroyed by Customs. I got a very succinct, mildly threatening letter saying that I risked being charged with the importation of a prohibited item if I tried it again. Hmm. Apparently lighters cannot be legally imported, the only exception being if you bring one on a flight, on your person.

This was awhile ago, I might add. I wish I'd followed it up, would have been interesting. The first lighter was also a torch, it was outwardly a torch but the end panel slid back, which was the switch for a jet lighter. So maybe that got through the xray because it looked like a torch. The second one was shaped like a gun. Maybe thats why it threw up a red flag. That one was a gift too, making this even more annoying. I think maybe it only got taken because of Australia's strict firearms laws. Confusion!

Spazzallo

25-11-2009, 10:49 PM

No worries! I'm buying now with your Playasia link, hopefully put a few more bucks towards L4D2.

Still on the subject of inporting and Customs, I'd like to share a non game related story with y'all. You know those shonky ebay sellers from Hong Kong? I'd never buy a game off them (pirate city!) but I bought two lighters, that were listed in Australian dollars. Now, I got the first one okay, but the second one was seized and destroyed by Customs. I got a very succinct, mildly threatening letter saying that I risked being charged with the importation of a prohibited item if I tried it again. Hmm. Apparently lighters cannot be legally imported, the only exception being if you bring one on a flight, on your person.

This was awhile ago, I might add. I wish I'd followed it up, would have been interesting. The first lighter was also a torch, it was outwardly a torch but the end panel slid back, which was the switch for a jet lighter. So maybe that got through the xray because it looked like a torch. The second one was shaped like a gun. Maybe thats why it threw up a red flag. That one was a gift too, making this even more annoying. I think maybe it only got taken because of Australia's strict firearms laws. Confusion!

Thanks dude! Really much appreciated! :) If you're spending $100 by any chance I still have a spare $12 code if you'd like it. But seriously thanks! Going to order it over the weekend and I'll use your affiliate link in return :).

I'd say it got seized because it's flammable. I suppose lighters can blow up if you knock them hard enough? :confused:

fearofthesky

25-11-2009, 11:27 PM

Thanks dude! Really much appreciated! :) If you're spending $100 by any chance I still have a spare $12 code if you'd like it. But seriously thanks! Going to order it over the weekend and I'll use your affiliate link in return :).

I'd say it got seized because it's flammable. I suppose lighters can blow up if you knock them hard enough? :confused:

While I'd love to spend 100 bucks its not in my budget at the moment. Just L4D2 and Far Cry 2, which is 10 bucks at the moment! I don't have an affiliate link ATM though I might set one up. Gonna go investigate now. I have a 5$ voucher that expires soon. But thanks anyway! :D

The lighters got sent without fuel in them, I had to buy one of those cans from Bunnings. The way the old guy looked at me as I bought it! I think he thought I was gonna go huff it or blow up a letterbox or something. :rolleyes: But yeah that probably is why they are on the no-import list because of idiots sending them with fuel in them.

Spazzallo

26-11-2009, 03:16 PM

While I'd love to spend 100 bucks its not in my budget at the moment. Just L4D2 and Far Cry 2, which is 10 bucks at the moment! I don't have an affiliate link ATM though I might set one up. Gonna go investigate now. I have a 5$ voucher that expires soon. But thanks anyway! :D

The lighters got sent without fuel in them, I had to buy one of those cans from Bunnings. The way the old guy looked at me as I bought it! I think he thought I was gonna go huff it or blow up a letterbox or something. :rolleyes: But yeah that probably is why they are on the no-import list because of idiots sending them with fuel in them.

No worries mate :). Just PM me a link either today or tomorrow and I'll get you about $3 US :p.

BB2K

26-11-2009, 04:06 PM

I played the censored version at a mates today, and IMO it wasn't really that bad at all, the only thing I really noticed was when the corpses faded away.

/backslash

26-11-2009, 04:13 PM

I played the censored version at a mates today, and IMO it wasn't really that bad at all, the only thing I really noticed was when the corpses faded away.
Possibly the 1 in a million people who doesn't mind because for me & a lot of other people its not fun at all

fleshtea

26-11-2009, 04:23 PM

If L4D2 needs the gore to be fun... doesn't that mean... that the gameplay isn't particularly good?

Disclaimer is that I know nothing and have no interest in action or shoot'em games.

Natrak

26-11-2009, 04:30 PM

The core gameplay is fun, it's just that so much of the atmosphere and impressiveness of what's going on is completely removed by the rush-job censoring. The experience winds up feeling quite hollow.

BB2K

26-11-2009, 04:35 PM

Possibly the 1 in a million people who doesn't mind because for me & a lot of other people its not fun at all

Yeah, I've noticed how many people are up in arms about it. Personally, when I saw a screen from the uncensored version with blood splashed everywhere and stuff like that, I actually felt a little sick, and I'm usually fine with stuff like that.

TSplodey

26-11-2009, 06:40 PM

I'm in the boat with the "No gore isn't a terrible loss, but the fading corpses and/or lack of burning really breaks the 4th wall (pretty sure thats the right wall)" people.

Oh and also...

WHY ARE PEOPLE SO BAD HOW CAN YOU FAIL SO BAD AT A SIMPLE CONCEPT LIKE STAY WITH THE GROUP YOU ARE NOT A ****ING 1 MAN ARMY, BUT THAT SI YOU JUST WALKED INTO IS AHNIOUFH$E(&PHB#(PO:BN:CEABNIKBRVCIKRB.

Shorty

26-11-2009, 07:48 PM

Yeah, I've noticed how many people are up in arms about it. Personally, when I saw a screen from the uncensored version with blood splashed everywhere and stuff like that, I actually felt a little sick, and I'm usually fine with stuff like that.

I kept quoting "you've got red on you" when that happened. :p

Lex

26-11-2009, 09:16 PM

If L4D2 needs the gore to be fun... doesn't that mean... that the gameplay isn't particularly good?

Disclaimer is that I know nothing and have no interest in action or shoot'em games.

it really just ruins the feel of the game, your attacks feel like they have no impact, and it just feels like youre floating through.

sheeps

26-11-2009, 09:45 PM

You can turn the gore off if you don't like it.

Personally, running through a horde of zombies with a chainsaw is the best thing I've done in 21 years of life. >_>

JubeiSaotome

26-11-2009, 09:47 PM

I think if I did have an Uncensored version, having played the mod, I'd want the ability to turn off the blood spray effect, it's kind of annoying.

Jickle

28-11-2009, 03:28 PM

So who has this on 360? I'm considering importing still but I'm worried I'll have no one to play it with.

Shorty

28-11-2009, 03:32 PM

I'll play it with you. :)

Natrak

28-11-2009, 03:37 PM

I've got it, I know Cobla does as well.

Spazzallo

28-11-2009, 08:38 PM

A guy on ecogamer got his copy seized by customs :( I don't know if it's worth the risk :( **** YOU ATKINSON!

FrozenSoul80

28-11-2009, 08:52 PM

That's the chance you take when you import something. It's probably best if you wait until the game is cheaper that way you don't lose so much if it gets seized.

Thraxas

28-11-2009, 08:56 PM

I'm confused. I didn't think RCd was the same as banned, and that you could own an imported copy unless it was RCd for illegal content.

FrozenSoul80

28-11-2009, 08:59 PM

I'm confused. I didn't think RCd was the same as banned, and that you could own an imported copy.

Any game that has been refused classification is illegal to own/sell/etc.

Lazlow

28-11-2009, 09:07 PM

Actually I've never seen a definitive line from the OFLC website that states its illegal to own RC'ed material, and I've tried finding clarification a few times, all I've got that comes close is this paragraph from wiki;

Classification is mandatory, and films that are rated Refused Classification by the OFLC are banned for sale, hire or public exhibition, carrying a maximum fine of $275,000 and/or 10 years jail. It is legal to possess Refused Classification material, unless it has been rated Refused Classification due to illegal content (e.g. child pornography). It is illegal for residents of Western Australia to possess Refused Classification Video Games ever since the Liberal Party came into power in WA in 2008, where the breach of this law incurs either a hefty fine or imprisonment.

Sucks to be an West Australian >_>

Jickle

28-11-2009, 10:18 PM

Any game that has been refused classification is illegal to own/sell/etc.

But the game isn't actually RC'd as such, just our version is edited. People could legitimately get confused when importing!

Fenrir

29-11-2009, 05:22 AM

Gory standard version is RC'd; German kiddy version is MA15+. I assume to the Classification Board they're two entirely separate games, as discordant to the interactive digital age as that may be.

jawsy

29-11-2009, 10:42 AM

A guy on ecogamer got his copy seized by customs :( I don't know if it's worth the risk :( **** YOU ATKINSON!

Nah, he didn't. His dad nabbed it from the post before him (and went to the lengths to write a mock letter from customs, apparently).

Edit: Reading it again, maybe it didn't even turn up yet and his dad is just some sort of hilarious prankster. Either way the letter exists, someone has a screw loose, and no customs seizure.

Xanafalgue

29-11-2009, 10:43 AM

Awesome dad

sausage

29-11-2009, 10:52 AM

Dead Dad Solo Mum Sausage Moves In.

fearofthesky

29-11-2009, 11:31 AM

Holy shit! I have Manhunt on Xbox and am Western Australian. I'm a criminal!

Mind. Blown.

**** you, Barnett. This state is falling to pieces ever since that **** got in. Not happy at all.

Rambo

30-11-2009, 06:44 PM

Thraxas

30-11-2009, 06:46 PM

We'll thanks to Thraxas I have L4D2 on computer now. Too bad it got updated and now there is no way to see gore. Dissapearing zombies is great.

Now who's up for a game?

I'll send your disk back, send me a PM of your bank details.

Cool. I was wondering if it had arrived yet. I haven't played for a few days, so are you saying they got rid of the 510 see gore option? :(

I'll be up for a game some time. Maybe tomorrow. I'll PM you my details later.

Rambo

30-11-2009, 06:48 PM

Yeah when I went to change it, the number was 550 not 590 so I thought something was already iffy. Then when I changed it, it didn't let me play single player. I got into a multiplayer game, but all the zombies dissapeared so it didn't work.

Thraxas

30-11-2009, 07:19 PM

Yeah mine was 550 too but it worked.

Did you launch it through steam or from the .exe in the L4D2 folder? YOu have to do it directly from the .exe rather than steam.

EDIT

Nope it seems you are correct. I can't have full gore anymore either :(

Ashmaran

30-11-2009, 07:41 PM

Guys the update just resets the appid values, all you gotta do is change them back to 510 and it's all sweet. I just tried it then.

Thraxas

30-11-2009, 09:12 PM

I did set it to 510 again but then it gave me a weird error message saying it couldn't connect. :-(

McChimp

02-12-2009, 01:58 PM

I've just been playing this on 360, and......JESUS H CHRIST!!
Did anyone playing co-op online find that the game just spazzed the ****** out every time there was more than a handful of enemies around you?!
I don't know if it's a common thing with playing games online, but that was game-breaking for me, getting the crap beaten out of me by zombies I couldn't even see, or wasn't even near! The first level was fine, but after that? Spaz-city!!

......glad I didn't buy it!!

tau

02-12-2009, 01:59 PM

Maybe your internet connection is just shit!!!!!/..................!!!!!

McChimp

02-12-2009, 02:12 PM

Never had any problems like that before playing online!! Maybe it's the game that's s**t!!

Cobla

02-12-2009, 02:16 PM

^ No, the game is awesome. Even better than the 1st one in just about every way!Maybe your internet connection is just shit!!!!!/..................!!!!!Yeah that and you're obviously playing on either the dedicated (US) servers or on a locally hosted game overseas.

To fix it, play with Aussies who are hosting their own game, or alternatively, host one yourself.

On my connection the dedicated servers are noticably laggy, but still usually much better than what I find in MW2. Also compared to L4D1 there's a lot fewer network problems in general. I haven't had a single game drop out on me yet, whereas with the 1st game it was a frustratingly regular occurence.

Oh BTW if anyone is after a copy on 360, shoot me a PM. Turns out a friend picked up a copy for me in the UK not knowing I'd already ordered it. Still factory sealed. :)

EDIT: Spare copy has now gone. Cheers!

McChimp

02-12-2009, 02:25 PM

To fix it, play with Aussies who are hosting their own game, or alternatively, host one yourself.

On my connection the dedicated servers are noticably laggy, but still usually much better than what I find in MW2. Also compared to L4D1 there's a lot fewer network problems in general. I haven't had a single game drop out on me yet, whereas with the 1st game it was a frustratingly regular occurence.

I've had the exact opposite experience so-far, with it being laggy and crap, which the first game never was. I've also hosted the co-op myself each time, so really, if there's any problem here I doubt it's with my internet, 'cos every other time I play something online it's fine.

Cobla

02-12-2009, 02:27 PM

I've had the exact opposite experience so-far, with it being laggy and crap, which the first game never was. I've also hosted the co-op myself each time, so really, if there's any problem here I doubt it's with my internet, 'cos every other time I play something online it's fine.Did you choose "local (listen) server" in the game settings? You have to force it, but when you do it's exactly like playing an offline game for the actual host. ie. no lag at all

I swear people have been playing the game and just not seeing this option (it is kinda tucked away), at least based on how many Aussies just go with Dedicated. 9/10 random games I join are on the dedicated servers and sure enough, every Aussie has a red connection.

McChimp

02-12-2009, 02:32 PM

Ugh! Trust it to be an option that I missed. Thought I'd f'ed around with the settings enough, but I guess not.

Cobla

02-12-2009, 02:40 PM

Yeah I kinda wish it was more obvious, but at least it's there this time around. Did anyone else see that ridiculous 'trick' for forcing the local servers in the first game?

It involved searching for dedicated servers and then cancelling the search over and over until eventually the game gave up and gave you the host. When it worked it was great (and there was definitely a knack to it) but every time I tried it my console would crash, forcing me to turn it off and try again. Ludicrous, so I just didn't bother in the end.

jacktheripper

06-12-2009, 07:34 AM

hmm it was my dad pretending to get a letter from customs T_T
my game hasn't come yet -- despatched 24th Novemeber from CDWow.
there is now one guy on ecogamer who had his copy seized, ordered from 365games.
not sure whats going on with cdwow i know of 4 other people who got despatched 22nd and 24th nov who ordered other games too (Lego) but nobody has received anything :(

Pai Mel

06-12-2009, 10:43 AM

At this time of year the Hong Kong airmail and postal service is very slow, unless you pay the extra for Express services.

jacktheripper

06-12-2009, 10:50 AM

At this time of year the Hong Kong airmail and postal service is very slow, unless you pay the extra for Express services.

thats good to hear then :)

Xanafalgue

07-12-2009, 03:42 PM

I don't remember the first game ever being this difficult O_O

Cobla

07-12-2009, 04:45 PM

Yeah it's more challenging, but IMO that's mostly because you have to adapt to the new elements... especially the crescendo moments where you actually have to do something (ie. other than 'not die').

Anyway anyone who has it on 360, add me if you wanna play some games. :)

Natrak

07-12-2009, 07:35 PM

Had a few games of Scavenge mode earlier, absolutely love it. It works really well as a sort of streamlined versus mode.

Xanafalgue

10-12-2009, 10:21 PM

I always enjoy Left 4 Dead more when I'm playing with Japanese people. They get the concept of teamwork and co-op and don't grief or hog health packs... its the little things!

Pai Mel

10-12-2009, 10:27 PM

Do you find they like to kamikaze?

Spazzallo

10-12-2009, 10:36 PM

Pai Mel

10-12-2009, 10:45 PM

I received my copy from Play-Asia fine. But there is another copy I bought off ebay a few days earlier which hasn't turned up yet.

/backslash

10-12-2009, 10:50 PM

http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=13795

Now I'm really getting worried about my copy. Though WA laws are slightly different aren't they? Pretty sure they are the only state you can get a fine in.
Wtf? Going to jail just because someone imported a game? $1000 fine? Sounds like there's less charges if the person simply decided to pirate the game instead. The Australian Government clearly has no idea what they're doing and how it effects people, I'd become more violent by default if they kept on seizing my games

Can you imagine someone ended up in jail for that?
Prisoner 1: "What are you in here for?"
Prisoner 2: "Killing Michael Atkinson, you?"
Prisoner 1: "Importing a videogame that's banned in Australia"
Prisoner 2: "So I hear that since he's dead they've got an 18+ classifciation now so you wouldn't have to import"
Prisoner 1: "F***!"

Luckily my PC copy arrived unscathed, in fact since installing it I've barely touched it, weird...probably because I've been so busy with Borderlands :p

Xanafalgue

10-12-2009, 10:54 PM

http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=13795

Ridiculous.

And no Pai Mel, no :p

Starscream

11-12-2009, 12:25 AM

$1000 fine is *****ed up.

Next time I'm in Hong Kong:
- I'll buy L4D2 and some other 360 game
- swap the game discs
- mail the L4D2 disc in the other 360 game case
- bring back crap game and hide the game slick for L4D2 with me

Pai Mel

11-12-2009, 01:22 AM

Probably not true though. Clever advertising? I mean you are already talking about it.

fearofthesky

11-12-2009, 01:47 AM

Got mine yesterday! And I am Western Australian so I can be sent to jail...apparently? Just when did the new State Government make this law anyway, that just possesing a banned videogame is punishable by jail time? Passed me by, somehow. I have 3 recalled or banned games now. WTF?

Cobla

11-12-2009, 08:55 AM

Yeah customs didn't even open my package. Even if they had I doubt there would have been a fine.

I had stuff confiscated once about 2 years ago and customs just scribbled an almost illegible note on a seizure form... no fine, no threats about "don't do it again". The only penalty was that I didn't get my banned goods.

REQUIEM

11-12-2009, 09:14 AM

There is No fine on importing a banned object the first time. I have recieved about 3 of those annoying letters fom customs and they state that you can let them keep the item which if so will be destroyed (more likley the customs staff takes it home) or you can notify them and take the legal processes to gain it back if you wish however then they will prosecute rather than warn you if you lose.

StorminNorman

11-12-2009, 12:23 PM

Just when did the new State Government make this law anyway, that just possesing a banned videogame is punishable by jail time?

It's, uh, always been illegal to import or possess banned material in Australia. And yes, it can be punished by jail time, although generally this will only happen if you import lots of banned pornography.

But yeah, it's only really illegal if you get caught.

Lazlow

11-12-2009, 12:37 PM

It's, uh, always been illegal to import or possess banned material in Australia. And yes, it can be punished by jail time, although generally this will only happen if you import lots of banned pornography.

But yeah, it's only really illegal if you get caught.

I posted this earlier:

Actually I've never seen a definitive line from the OFLC website that states its illegal to own RC'ed material, and I've tried finding clarification a few times, all I've got that comes close is this paragraph from wiki;

Classification is mandatory, and films that are rated Refused Classification by the OFLC are banned for sale, hire or public exhibition, carrying a maximum fine of $275,000 and/or 10 years jail. It is legal to possess Refused Classification material, unless it has been rated Refused Classification due to illegal content (e.g. child pornography). It is illegal for residents of Western Australia to possess Refused Classification Video Games ever since the Liberal Party came into power in WA in 2008, where the breach of this law incurs either a hefty fine or imprisonment.

Sucks to be an West Australian >_>

/backslash

11-12-2009, 02:31 PM

Goddamn WA :( Now there's another thing I hate about living in this state

oogi2000

11-12-2009, 04:47 PM

It is illegal for residents of Western Australia to possess Refused Classification Video Games ever since the Liberal Party came into power in WA in 2008

That means I still get to keep my uncut copy of Urotsukidoji :rolleyes::D.

I remember reading this in The West Australian really briefly when it happened. Bastards must've quickly rushed it through a parliamentary session.:p

Starscream

11-12-2009, 04:51 PM

Someone call Denny Crane.

Thraxas

11-12-2009, 06:12 PM

That means I still get to keep my uncut copy of Urotsukidoji :rolleyes::D.

I remember my friends and I hiring this from the video shop many, many years ago being completely drunk and just thinking WTF for most of the movie.

Also does anyone with the 360 version want to set up up some times we can have a few games. I've played some games with randoms but I've not had much success in finishing a game before people have to leave or they get the shits because we're not playing the exact way they want.

Natrak

12-12-2009, 06:15 PM

I should be up for some tomorrow night, I think. Anyone else?

It sucks, if this game hadn't been RCed I'd say there'd be a lot more Hyp activity for this.

Silverwolf

12-12-2009, 06:19 PM

I should be up for some tomorrow night, I think. Anyone else?

It sucks, if this game hadn't been RCed I'd say there'd be a lot more Hyp activity for this.

There would be much much more, I still have barely considered buying it.

Watchers

12-12-2009, 09:58 PM

I have the uncut version, but cbb playing it since League of Legends is occupying all my multiplayer time at the moment. Quite addictive.

Lazlow

13-12-2009, 12:34 AM

So has anyone made a mod that replaces the zombie character models with Michael Atkinson?

Fenrir

13-12-2009, 09:48 AM

Honestly, don't. That shit will only sway people to Atkinson's side.

Lazlow

13-12-2009, 01:39 PM

Oh no doubt, but you know what nerds are like.

Fenrir

13-12-2009, 02:31 PM

Bokracroc

13-12-2009, 04:42 PM

I know what geeks are like; I like to hope that nerds are better than that.

I'm also not sure whether entering into the nerd vs geek distinction wankathon makes me a nerd or a geek. Probably nerd, for elitist reasons, I guess.
I'm a hybrid :(

Anyway, is it possible to import a 360 UK copy (or what region has full gore and works here) and not have massive lag?

Lazlow

13-12-2009, 04:46 PM

I know what geeks are like; I like to hope that nerds are better than that.

I'm also not sure whether entering into the nerd vs geek distinction wankathon makes me a nerd or a geek. Probably nerd, for elitist reasons, I guess.

There's a difference?

Btw I don't f***in' care so don't enter into it.

Pai Mel

15-12-2009, 02:03 PM

My ebay listing for the international asian version of Left 4 Dead 2 got removed today. You are only allowed to sell the Australian version of the game on there.
I managed to sell 1 copy though. I'll probably just keep this one for myself, although I've played none of the games in the series so far. Mebbe it's worth >$100 now because of the banning?

Xanafalgue

15-12-2009, 09:03 PM

D el Cee rap for meeee

Valve, creators of best-selling game franchises (such as Half-Life, Portal, Team Fortress, and Counter-Strike) and leading technologies (such as Steam and Source), today announced the first game add-on for its co-operative zombie thriller, Left 4 Dead 2 (L4D2), is in development and targeted for release in early 2010.

Dubbed “The Passing,” the first game add-on for L4D2 brings the original Left 4 Dead (L4D1) Survivors down south for a meeting with the L4D2 cast, while delivering new single-player, multiplayer and co-operative gameplay for the PC and Xbox 360.

Targeted for release in early spring, “The Passing” takes place just after the Dead Center campaign of L4D2. Set in a small town in rural Georgia, players assume the role of the L4D2 Survivors as they meet with the L4D1 characters.

In addition to the new co-operative campaign and associated narrative, “The Passing” will include new arenas for Survival, Versus and Scavenge mode and introduce a new co-operative challenge mode of play. The Passing will also include a new “uncommon common” zombie class, melee weapon, and firearm.

“The Passing will become the most important campaign in the Left 4 Dead story, as all the Survivors are being called together in one campaign,” said Doug Lombardi, VP of marketing at Valve. “It will also be a huge offering of new gameplay content, with something new for every game mode plus a new uncommon common and weaponry.”

oogi2000

15-12-2009, 09:27 PM

My ebay listing for the international asian version of Left 4 Dead 2 got removed today. You are only allowed to sell the Australian version of the game on there.

Tell that to Dungeon Crawl. They sell international versions of games by the truckload.

Lazlow

15-12-2009, 09:39 PM

international versions of RC'ed games?

Spazzallo

16-12-2009, 01:05 AM

Got my copy today with no problems :D surprised it only took 1 week!

Also as part of their Christmas promotion by using Visa card, I got a play-asia lanyard. I wanted something useful at least as I have at least 10 Brisbane ones that have never been used :(.

dalmatian

16-12-2009, 10:06 AM

Chopbuster

17-12-2009, 09:26 AM

Mine shipped on the 9th, still waiting for it to arrive. Read a couple of horror stories on ecogamer about customs seizing copies so im set for a nervous 24-48 hours i think. Hope it arrives by Friday

I'm nervous too ... I ordered 3 copies! They were shipped on the 7th and only left Hong Kong yesterday (16th). First the big delays by Hong Kong post and now the Aussie Postal strike, I don't think they will arrive until late next week (IF they make it at all). All this trouble just because our Government won't let adults play R18+ games. :mad:

REQUIEM

17-12-2009, 12:53 PM

I'm nervous too ... All this trouble just because our Government won't let adults play R18+ games. :mad:
You see what Michael Asskicksoon has turned you into, he has made you a smuggler.

casual_pedestrian

17-12-2009, 01:04 PM

So is everyone getting this from play-asia (US copy)?

Natrak

17-12-2009, 05:56 PM

I got mine from Play-Asia, I went with the Asian version, not the US, though.

Xanafalgue

17-12-2009, 09:09 PM

Getting ****ing tired of having to wait 15 minutes to find a game. Whenever I join a game in progress its always ****ing Dark Carnival.

fearofthesky

21-12-2009, 02:00 AM

Spazzallo

21-12-2009, 02:03 AM

I recon we shouldn't vote to kick team members out of the game if you ask me! :P

fearofthesky

21-12-2009, 02:04 AM

You shot and corpse-humped me! :D

Shorty

21-12-2009, 02:10 AM

Just played some dark Carnival with Shorty and Spazzallo. Freaking hard! Bit of lag too. We all had one bar, despite all being Aussies. It wasn't too bad but there was a small delay between the shot/melee attack and the damage modelling. Still lotsa fun, though I think we may need to use more teamwork and generally be more cautious...

Yeah, some of those sections were beyond ridiculous. The roller coaster in Part 3 took at least three or four gos and we only got halfway past the gate on our last try before we all packed it in. It's a pretty nasty spike from the first campaign.

Xanafalgue

21-12-2009, 07:43 AM

What difficulty?

JubeiSaotome

21-12-2009, 11:17 AM

Just played some dark Carnival with Shorty and Spazzallo. Freaking hard! Bit of lag too. We all had one bar, despite all being Aussies. It wasn't too bad but there was a small delay between the shot/melee attack and the damage modelling. Still lotsa fun, though I think we may need to use more teamwork and generally be more cautious...

I've been finding that whenever friends and I try going "Best dedicated", it will spaz out and give us a Japanese server. We've resorted to hosting locally, only downside is randoms joining and complaining about lag (Which we then chew them out for).

TSplodey

21-12-2009, 01:44 PM

Theres a console command you can do that Ive forgotten that will only let it find 3FL servers, have a look on their website and you could find it fairly easily I imagine.

JubeiSaotome

21-12-2009, 02:04 PM

Would rather Node servers. Since Node is in Adelaide.

TSplodey

21-12-2009, 03:58 PM

Be more picky. 3FL AU server or random Jap server, your choice. Its a console command so go look up Node forums for the search term, they must have one as well.

Xanafalgue

23-12-2009, 12:39 PM

Okay, still having a hard time getting into any games. Search is useless :(

Cobla

23-12-2009, 02:19 PM

To find a low-lag game on 360 add this Gamertag to your friends list: L4D2AUS

You can also add me if you like (GT: Dark Farm). I don't play it every night, but if you send me an invite I'll most likely be keen! :)

Xanafalgue

27-12-2009, 01:22 AM

To find a low-lag game on 360 add this Gamertag to your friends list: L4D2AUS

Sweet, added. Cheers mate.

dinnerordie17

04-01-2010, 02:33 PM

How To Get Left 4 Dead 2 PC uncensored without having to import or change any files that wreck multiplayer.

heck it might even be legal

1. Put this link in your web browser, (not steam) http://store.steampowered.com/?cc=uk

2. This is the united kingdom versian of steam chaps, rightio have some tea and then go find left 4 dead 2

3. Set your country to UK (the rest of your adress can be the same) you will need to pay by credit card not paypall

4. There finished, uncensored L4D2

note: also you can buy things like SH: Homecoming and Risen from it too :D Also probably games that may be taking longer to be realesed in australias steam

sheeps

04-01-2010, 03:41 PM

Yeah people have known that for a while. It's cheaper (or was when I did it) through the US store too. Not by much, by a buck or two.

dinnerordie17

04-01-2010, 03:42 PM

Just thought id share it seem everybody always says the 550 method but I hardly see anyone mention this way

Shorty

04-01-2010, 08:48 PM

Some helpful Steam user has posted a list of which weapons are most effective at killing the tank (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/01/left-4-dead-2s-frying-pans-kill-a-tank-3-times-faster-than-shotguns/#more-372930).

jawsy

05-01-2010, 04:15 PM

I bought this for 360 today. Uncensored Asian version. In store.

!

concrete donkey

05-01-2010, 07:41 PM

i just bought Left 4 dead 1 on 360, ive never played it before so if anyone wants to play co-op (anyone but spudzilla thanks) send me an invite

Slippery

05-01-2010, 08:25 PM

Spud played on pc.

jawsy

06-01-2010, 11:28 AM

Played through the first two L4D2 campaigns last night with a buddy, and holy hell the difficulty seems to have been upped! I guess because there seems to have been a slight shift away from 'simply get from point A to B, with a big standoff at B'. Fueling the car was crazy fun (and difficult) and the less said about the rollercoaster the better. Also, the showdown on stage (complete with pyrotechnics) ruled.

I dig it!

Spazzallo

06-01-2010, 11:34 AM

Please add my gamertag if you've got this game. Love what I've played of it so far but it's only fun with people you know :(.

Thraxas

14-01-2010, 04:38 PM

Anyone free during the day tomorrow to play some of this on 360. Played with an old friend today and had heaps of fun. It's got me in the mood for some more.

Shorty

21-03-2010, 06:10 PM

Some more details about the upcoming L4D2 expansion "The Passing" have emerged. Apparently, you'll only be meeting up with three of the original zombie-killing quartet because in the prequel campaign for L4D, one of them won't make it (http://kotaku.com/5498032/one-left-4-dead-character-wont-survive-the-passing). There's also going to be a comic to be released between both expansion with its own version of how things will go down. Interesting stuff.

fearofthesky

21-03-2010, 06:27 PM

Shit, I've hardly played this since you, myself and Spazzalo played that time. Lets try have another game soon...the singleplayer is horribly dull, as you no doubt realize.

Shorty

21-03-2010, 06:31 PM

I thought the L4D2 campaign was just hard, especially Dark Carnival. I still haven't beaten that one.

fearofthesky

21-03-2010, 06:34 PM

Spazzallo

21-03-2010, 07:28 PM

We must have tried that last episode (I think it was the last?) 20 times, with the gate and the frackin' millions of the bastards that come out! Must play online more, damn it. **** it lets try it again now! Anyone down?

I'd love to play with you mate but gotta wait until I get moved out of this crappy apartment so I can get non-mobile broadband. But if you're up for it in a month, sure :p.

fearofthesky

21-03-2010, 08:29 PM

I'd love to play with you mate but gotta wait until I get moved out of this crappy apartment so I can get non-mobile broadband. But if you're up for it in a month, sure :p.

Shit thats right, your house got ruined by that freak Melbourne storm. Getting it fixed up I guess? That shit really sucks man :(

Spazzallo

21-03-2010, 08:52 PM

Shit thats right, your house got ruined by that freak Melbourne storm. Getting it fixed up I guess? That shit really sucks man :(

Ah all good mate, what can you do? Funny thing was I played this with a mate yesterday and remembered going through the carnival with you, I'll hit you up once I get internet!

Xanafalgue

22-03-2010, 02:48 AM

Spudzilla

22-03-2010, 03:21 AM

Does he remind you of your dad?

Shorty

22-03-2010, 04:03 AM

It could be Francis - "I hate dying." :p

It could be that the comic has one idea about who dies, but the expansion itself will let you choose who makes "the ultimate sacrifice".

Xanafalgue

22-03-2010, 04:25 AM

It could be Francis - "I hate dying." :p

It could be that the comic has one idea about who dies, but the expansion itself will let you choose who makes "the ultimate sacrifice".

I predict a whole lotta people letting Lewis die... he was always the only character left in almost every lobby... some people obv just aren't down with the brown :cool:

Xanafalgue

22-03-2010, 04:26 AM

Does he remind you of your dad?

My father is far ugly and ten times more useless than Bill :D

sheeps

22-03-2010, 12:34 PM

I predict a whole lotta people letting Lewis die... he was always the only character left in almost every lobby... some people obv just aren't down with the brown :cool:

Obviously playing with different people. Most people I play with leave Francis.

I like to play Lewis and run around yelling "Yes we can".