Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) thread - UFC/Dream/Strikeforce

[Sweating Bullets]

Not too sure how many people left in Hyper are interested in MMA but thought I might as well create a thread and see how many biters we have.

Any thoughts on Affliction becoming defunct?? Probably not a good thing for the industry as it will look like UFC will become too much of a power house.

[IRS]

I still read hyper (at least the website, not magazine >_>). But all MMA discussion goes on at THAT OTHER FORUM

[Sweating Bullets]

UFC 101 was unreal.

BJ was pretty awesome. Silva broke Forest's jaw. Any fallout after he left the ring?

also some nice gifs:
http://i25.tinypic.com/2i06d7b.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/1zvbd37.jpg

http://i31.tinypic.com/2u6g406.gif

IRS - I might just spam this thread up incase other people don't haunt YAUC.

[Sweating Bullets]

Carano vs. Cyborg: Strikeforce this weekend. Should be mad!

[Sweating Bullets]

Poor Carano. Pwned imo. Anyone else watch it?

[Shattereddreams]

I suppose as far as MMA goes on Hyper, it's just me and you now?
Everyone left for, well, the aforementioned OTHER forum. =|

Back on topic though - I watched it. THAT was depressing. Poor Babalu as well. :( Far out. Gegard is for real.

[Sweating Bullets]

Might be just you and me - I still check stuff out on YUAC but thought it might be wise to post here just to maybe draw some other Hyperians.

Cyborg just walked right thru Carano's punches. It was awesome and scary at the same time.

Also it looks like Thales Leites has been dropped from UFC. What pricks to cut him after being top contender and then being dropped. Wtf.

Anyways spoilers but this is the end of the Cyborg and Carano:

http://i31.tinypic.com/oqdtv9.gif

[Shattereddreams]

I'm disappointed with the Leites thing too.

Even more baffling is they brought in Baroni, with a ~0.5 record and coming off a loss.
What were they thinking?


I'll have to admit though, I love seeing some relatively oldschool fighters being brought back to the UFC (Vlad, Hallman, Trigg, etc) but if they have to drop recent contenders like Leites to do it... Well, what can I say.

[Lazlow]

What were they thinking?

$$$$

Baroni is strong peronality, and a slugger. He sells tickets.

[Sweating Bullets]

wtf. Corwin vs Lesnar now?
The fight for Cain vs Corwin has been changed.

[Sweating Bullets]

http://www.mmaspot.net/mmaspot/files/image/article%20images/M-1%20Breakthrough%202.jpg

King Mo vs Kerr also

[Lazlow]

At first I was like WTF?!?! Fedor just got booked to fight Rodgers.

But then I saw the small print under FEDOR VS MOUSASI; "special sparring exhibition".

[Sweating Bullets]

I thought it was strange also- then saw the exhibition thing.

Is this on the same night as UFC 102?

I do wonder why Kerr still keeps trying to compete....

[Sweating Bullets]

Just saw the Kerr and King Mo fight. I really feel bad for Kerr. He lasted 20 or so seconds.

[Sweating Bullets]

Nate vs Maia fight outcome:
*sigh* Maia lost in 30 seconds. I think it was early stoppage.

[Lazlow]

As I expected. :D

[Sweating Bullets]

I am pretty ****ing pissed about it Laz
D:

[Sweating Bullets]

Spoiler gifs for UFC 102 and Kerr vs King Mo:


Mark Kerr being destroyed by King Mo
http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/onsite/gif/m0peice.gif

Maia getting pwned:
http://i25.tinypic.com/futmw4.gif
Why I think it was early stoppage is that Maia managed to roll around and wasn't sleeping or visibly knocked out. Just because Nate didn't punch doesn't mean the fight was over.

Jardine being dropped:
http://i25.tinypic.com/v78iz5.gif

[Lazlow]

I direct you to this thread (http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/another-early-stoppage-marquardt-vs-maia-1041524/) (spoiler warning for those holding out)

In short; you're nuts.

[Sweating Bullets]

While I do agree with a number of those points in the thread. I would have liked to have seen something like:

When Gonzaga downed Hendricks - and then just punched him one more time and then the ref stepped him. I think if I had seen Nate throw one more punch to confirm that Maia was out. I mean I still am unsure about the knockout. Maia went down for sure but could he have scrambled in time? Majority of people think that what I am saying is idiotic (ala the sherdog thread) but I am still not convinced Maia was totally out of it. I mean like when Lutter knocked out Eastman - that was very clear he was out. Anyway my 2 cents.

[Lazlow]

Selling my UFC DVD collection (http://www.hyper.com.au/forums/showthread.php?p=1110688#post1110688)

[Sweating Bullets]

TUF 10 preview - Looks pretty funny from the 8 minute preview

ADs8vsgZsOs

[REQUIEM]

I think KIMBO being in the new UFC reality show " The Ultimate Fighter " is IMO the best thing the series has done since series 1 with the great forrest.
Sunday night for episode 1 CANT come quick enough.

[Lazlow]

Wes Sims is stealing the show

s Wes Sims crazy? Tonight on TUF he said that he was the only man to beat Frank Mir twice. I thought something was weird so I checked his record on your site and sure enough, it said that he had actually lost twice to Mir. I went back and watched the fights again, and the fights results are as reported on your site, that he has actually lost to Mir twice. Now I'm just trying to figure out if he doesn't remember the fights, or if he has just decided to lie to America on national TV. Can someone please clear this up, especially for the others out there just as confused as myself? -- Cesar

Wes Sims: Obviously, a big fan that has to go back and watch those fights is a newbie to the sport. He’s one of those TUF fans, because everybody that watched UFC 43 knows that I won that fight. I took a poll from Vegas all the way back to Ohio, every biker bar on the way home I stopped at and they all said the same thing: The last man standing –- that’s your winner.

The second time? That’s very questionable. At worst, I’d say no contest. It was so controversial; they fired “Big” John McCarthy over it. That’s true. He’s no longer there, is he? Wes Sims is not a liar.

Editor’s Note: Take note of another Sims’ quote from the first episode: “I never let the truth get in the way of a good story.”

.....

“I just want to make sure because everybody knows I’ve got the largest crotch in the sport.”

“I didn’t put no semen in no one’s food, and no one better have put no semen in my food. If anybody puts semen in my food, I’m pushing their shit in next time, quote me on that. I watch it, and I see somebody did something to something I ate, next time I see ‘em, they’re on blast. I’m pushing their shit in…The real thing. Yeah. I ain’t going gay again, but I’ll tell ya, I’m pushing their shit in.”

“There was no wanking. I tell ya, there was cameras everywhere. There was just no opportunity. I wasn’t doing it unless I was getting paid for it…If you’re gonna wank it, you better got paid for it…It sucks! It sucks, how could it not? Another fact, there ain’t nobody I could look at in that house and wanna go yank it.”

“I flew a chick out there and I started beating the **** out of her immediately. I had my girl fly out and I ****ed the shit out of her in the hotel. I locked us in the hotel; we didn’t get out for an entire day…Oh my God. At first go was horrible for myself because it was just ridiculous. But after that, I about ripped her guts out. I tell ya one thing - if I was someone waiting to get her kidney or something, I’d be dead because her shit’s all bruised up…Oh the shit was ****ing — yeah, it was a mess…It makes me sick talking about it.”

“Nobody likes somebody who thinks they’re smarter than everybody else. Those kind of kids in school got the shit kicked out of them on a daily basis. They’re probably rich now, designing the most elegant things in the world. But they’re not very popular.”

“You have to wait and see the show. The cameras were on me 24/7. They might have even gotten a shot of my abnormally large, uncomfortable crotch. Because the camera was on me even when I was in the bathroom. So, you’ll see. If I did anything, you’ll see it.”

..........

(on Phil Baroni)
“Man, I just think some of those internet pictures where his pants are hiked down well below his belt line just above his incredibly small penis. And it just makes me sick. I can’t imagine some of the shit he’s done. I can only assume, I can only assume he’s had unprotected gay sex for money. And quote me for that, please.”

[REQUIEM]

Just for anybody thats intersted. The Ultimate Fighter 10 with KIMBO has started on Foxtels Fuel TV. thats in REAL TIME as of this second of the post.

Edit: That 1st qualifying fight was a BLOOD BATH. Dana white quote " THATS THE BLOODIEST FIGHT IVE SEEN " wtf thats stating something.

[Hemish71]

I've just been getting into this with one hd showing ufc on different nights.
The skill sets some of these guys have are awesome
The thing that amazes me the most is how quickly a fight can turn around

[Lazlow]

In that case...

Selling my UFC DVD collection (http://www.hyper.com.au/forums/showthread.php?p=1110688#post1110688)

>_>

[Sweating Bullets]

Edit: That 1st qualifying fight was a BLOOD BATH. Dana white quote " THATS THE BLOODIEST FIGHT IVE SEEN " wtf thats stating something.

The cut on that guy's head was freaking nasty as. And it was pretty bloody.

Rampage is coming off like a bit of a dick in TUF10 so far. Let's hope he manages a few wins unlike Season 7.

I have yet to watch UFC 103 - will watch it tomorrow night and post more thoughts and some gifs then.

Also it looks like Shields and Miller is confirmed for Nov 7. Should be a good fight. I am hoping that Miller wins.

I find the poster for the Fedor vs Rogers fight a bit harsh:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Fedorogers.jpg

Arlovski getting pwned :/

[IRS]

Edit: That 1st qualifying fight was a BLOOD BATH. Dana white quote " THATS THE BLOODIEST FIGHT IVE SEEN " wtf thats stating something.

Because it's not like Dana White ever uses hyperboles?

It was pretty bloody.


Rampage is coming off like a bit of a dick in TUF10 so far. Let's hope he manages a few wins unlike Season 7.


What exactly do you expect from Rampage? Are you familiar with what kind of person he is?

Worse than that, he lets Tiki run his fight camp now. Those crazy black people.

[Sweating Bullets]

Just ran into a mate in the lift at work who works in another building and is MMA fan. He just told me that Rampage has retired. Wtf!!
Just checked Wikipedia and Sherdog and it has been confirmed.

TUF 10 will be a pointless hype fest for a fight that will never happen.

Stole this from Wikipedia
Retirement

On September 22, 2009 Jackson wrote in a blog on his website that he is "done fighting". Speaking on his personal website, Jackson said: "The UFC has done a lot for me but I think I have done more for them. The UFC bought World Fighting Alliance to get my contract and they saved my life, so I felt loyal to them.

"They pushed me into a fight with Chuck Liddell even when I clearly stated I wasn't ready to fight for the belt because the American fans didn't know me but I took the fight and didn't complain and after I won, the American fans booed me for the first time which changed the way I saw them and it hurt me deeply.

"Then before I can even get out of the cage they announced that I was fighting Dan Henderson without even asking me. After I beat Dan Henderson, I made history in becoming the first undisputed champion in MMA but was never even given the Pride belt in the cage and I was never promoted as the undisputed champ. Later Anderson Silva was.

"Then they had me coach TUF season 7 and fight Forrest. The fight was very controversial and normally when a fight is that close and controversial there is normally an instant replay. I can name a couple of instances.

"Instead they offered me the Wanderlei Silva fight which I gladly accepted even though I know it was a very risky fight for me to take because of all the drama that was happening to me at the time. I fought that fight with a jaw injury and then a couple of weeks later Dana called me and asked me to fight Rashad. For the first time I said 'no', I didn't want to fight because it was such short notice and I wouldn't have had a long break between camps.

"Dana talked me into fighting Rashad anyway but Rashad refused the fight and so I had to fight Jardine as a favor to the UFC instead of getting my belt back (which wasn't even worth it to me financially).

"Then I re-injured my jaw in the fight with Wanderlei and Jardine. Frank Mir gets hurt so they wanted to switch my fight from UFC 100 to the fight Frank couldn't make it to but I couldn't fight cause I needed jaw surgery. So they give [Lyoto] Machida the fight against Rashad and they told me they want me to coach TUF season 10 against Rashad.

"That's why I wanted Rashad to win so bad but when Rashad got knocked out I told them I wanted to fight Machida for the belt but Dana told me if I coach TUF against Rashad that I could fight Machida afterwards cause this was a different type of ultimate fighter show they were doing.

"After I signed the contract Dana then changes his mind and says I have to fight Rashad and even told me what to say in the press and so my fans think I was scared to fight Machida.

"After all that, I still never complained and I did it all. Then this movie role came about that I have been trying to get for over a year and as soon as I found out I was close to getting it, I called Dana right away and asked to push the Memphis fight back just a month or so. I told him what this movie role meant to me.

"I told him that I used to bond with my father watching the TV show as a kid when my parents where still married and it represents the memories I had with my father when we lived together.

"My dad became an alcoholic and addicted to drugs and we grew apart. But after my dad got his life back together, I was so proud of my dad and I told him I would always take care of him in the future and make him proud of me.

"My dad and I are still very big fans of the show and I am basically doing this for the childhood memories I had spending time in front of the TV with my dad.

"Dana went on the internet and mocked me because of that and I still did nothing.

"Dana and I finally talked and we made up and then after that he went back on the internet and said some b***s*** and he was talking bad about the movie when information is not even supposed to be released and talking about payments which is not even true could really hurt my future acting career, which could very well last longer than my fighting career.

"I'm not like Randy Couture. My body has been getting so many different injuries that I wont be able to fight until my forties and neither do I want to fight that long. So I feel like my second career could be in jeopardy, so I'm done fighting.

"I've been getting negative reviews from the dumb ass fans that don't pay my bills or put my kids though college. So I'm hanging it up. I'm gonna miss all my loyal fans but hopefully they'll follow me to my new career and I will gain more loyal fans along the way.

"All you hater fans out there can kiss my big black hairy ass and anybody that don't like what I just said can come try to kick my ass!

"I still feel the UFC is a great organisation and I felt like I was very loyal to them but they didn't respect my loyalty but I wish the UFC the best. I did a lot of things for them.

"I wish no bad blood between me and Rashad. I have kids and a family back in Memphis to provide for thats all that matters to me!"

[Lazlow]

I don't buy a single thing Rampage says, he's a showman. Says he retires, argues with Dana, Rashad throws his 2c in, Rampage reacts, hype builds, fight gets booked, promos are cut, tickets sell.

[REQUIEM]

Hype does sell Tickets. I would say like most fighters he will stay away for a few months then once his ego misses the limelight and the paychecks will make a " comeback " and all will be forgiven. Just like mayweather did.


Now this is a COMEBACK.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnkUeu8twRE

What a fking joke.

[Sweating Bullets]

Wanderlei vs Akiyama at UFC 108

http://www.sbnation.com/2009/9/29/1060165/wanderlei-silva-vs-akiyama

[IRS]

Akiyama vs Wanderlei will be rock em sock em robot fighting

[Lazlow]

Plastic Fantastic vs The Tanned one.

[IRS]

Btw, that fight might be held in Australia.

They are planning an event there for early 2010.

[Shattereddreams]

Anyone watch WEC?
Just watched the Cerrone vs. Henderson fight. Thought it was pretty epic.
Don't wanna spoil anything but it was a great fight.

[Sweating Bullets]

Nope but I will check it out based on your recommendation. I need to watch some fights.

Tito vs Griffin in Nov. Should be a good rematch.

I can't bring myself to care about TUF 10. Now that Jackson has retired - what's the point of them arguing.

[Lazlow]

Jackson hasn't retired.

[Sweating Bullets]

I thought he quit fighting?

[Lazlow]

All hype, he'll fight again.

[Shattereddreams]

Btw, that fight might be held in Australia.

They are planning an event there for early 2010.

Isn't it occuring at UFC 108? I.e. MGM in LA?


Also, is anyone really considering going to the UFC event at Acer, or would it depend entirely the card?

[Lazlow]

Seeing as I'd have to fly, it would have to be a decent card.

[IRS]

Isn't it occuring at UFC 108? I.e. MGM in LA?


Also, is anyone really considering going to the UFC event at Acer, or would it depend entirely the card?

Not sure. Just assumed since it would put Akiyama in an asian timezone slot and the timing is about right.

[Lazlow]

In case you missed it;

Cage Rage Coming Here

THE sport described by critics as "human cockfighting" is coming to a stadium near you, despite warnings that US-style cage fighting will fuel more violence on the city's streets.

The combat sport, known as mixed martial arts, will be launched in Sydney early next year by the US promoter Ultimate Fighting Championship.

Legal representatives of the company have approached the Combat Sports Authority to seek permission to stage a bout in February, with organisers understood to be looking at the Acer Arena in Sydney Olympic Park.

Despite the sport being banned in 10 US states, UFC president of the British division Marshall Zelaznik confirmed that cage fighting was coming to Australia. "It's going to happen, we're coming," he said. "Planning is in effect, we've had a number of strategy meetings and we are on the verge of retaining some key partners in Australia."

UFC fighters use a brutal combination of martial arts, boxing, kick boxing and wrestling inside a cage called the octagon.

Competitors are permitted to pin an opponent to the floor and punch or elbow them into unconsciousness in a move known as "pound and ground". UFC rules explicitly ban fighters avoiding contact, faking injury or throwing in the towel, while the absence of a blood rule often leaves the octagon looking more like an abattoir.

New laws to be introduced in NSW from January 1 next year will mean anyone who wishes to promote a professional combat sport contest must apply for a permit from the Combat Sports Authority and all fighters and officials must be registered with the group.

Harsh penalties would be dealt to anyone considered to be exploiting combatants with unsafe environments and practices, NSW Sports Minister Kevin Greene said.

"These sports are not to everyone's taste and I'm certainly not a fan of cage fighting," Mr Greene said.

The first cage fighting bouts were staged in Australia in 2007, with a championship staged at Sydney's Luna Park in May last year attracting football players, and television and music stars.

Health experts have condemned UFC plans to introduce the contentious sport into Australia. "It's madness. If this was the animal world, the RSPCA would come down on you like a ton of bricks," said leading neurologist Professor Mark Cook of St Vincent's Hospital in Melbourne.

"As in boxing, the nature of sport means that brain injury is inevitable and this cage fighting may be worse, with people allowed to hit somebody while on the ground."

A prominent criminologist questioned whether UFC should be staged in Australia .

"This is the last thing we need to be importing," said Professor Rob White from the University of Tasmania. "UFC may have an even bigger impact than other forms of violence because it is a blood sport where we make heroes out of people who bash each other."

But Mr Zelaznik dismissed the sport's violent reputation: "There are strict safety measures to protect the fighters. There's no denying it's a combat sport and it may not be for everybody but there's some sports that I'm not totally keen on, like lawn bowling."

Mixed Martial Arts has become the fastest growing sport in the US, according to market research firm Ipsos Reid. Some fans pay up to $10,000 for front-row seats but it is the sale of television rights that is primarily responsible for the global expansion of the UFC empire, which was valued at $1.1 billion by the magazine Forbes last year.

Mr Zelaznik said UFC would target a young male audience in Australia. Television rights were being negotiated with Foxtel, Ten's new high-definition sports channel and a prominent pay-per-view network.


*groan*

[IRS]

So. Akiyama vs Wandy IS in Australia.



Anyone going?
Depending on the rest of the card I will probably fly out for the weekend.

[Lazlow]

I'm thinking about it, but it'll be mighty expensive and Sydney's foreign territory for me.

[Shattereddreams]

So. Akiyama vs Wandy IS in Australia.



Anyone going?
Depending on the rest of the card I will probably fly out for the weekend.

Haha, just read that. I feel somewhat pwned.

[Shattereddreams]

Henderson is out of the UFC now? They actually let him go.

http://mmamania.com/2009/10/16/report-dan-henderson-to-strikeforce-after-ufc-contract-negotiations-falter/

[Sweating Bullets]

So. Akiyama vs Wandy IS in Australia.

Anyone going?
Depending on the rest of the card I will probably fly out for the weekend.


I'll be there! Looks like Maia is fighting also.

[Lazlow]

I kinda want to go, but getting to Sydney and getting UFC tickets will be hell expensive. If its live on One, I'm definitely staying put.

[Dukotoja]

been watching the ufc on one for a few months now. i hope some tickets to the Sydney show are not hugely expensive so i can afford one and join the mob in its chant for blood

[Lazlow]

You'd be looking at a few hundred for anything remotely close to the action.

The prices for Jones v Green might be a decent yardstick. (http://www.acerarena.com.au/default.asp?flash=1&p=14&e=295)

[Sweating Bullets]

I have just taken a look at my summer semester timeline and it looks like the fight will be happening right after exams are over. Sweeeet!!

[Sweating Bullets]

Yesterday's results for UFC 104 all I can say is this:


http://i33.tinypic.com/2zin79y.gif

[Tonez]

Just watched Shogun Vs Machida.

Let me tell you I have never seen a more bullshit decision in my life. Anyone who watches that fight and believes Machida won is on drugs.

Ridiculous.

[Lazlow]

Kickboxing judges would tell you a different story.

[Tonez]

What were your thoughts? Do you believe Machida won the fight?

EDIT: I should probably rephrase. I know he won the fight but was it the correct decision?

[Lazlow]

I haven't actually watched the fight, but BM2 posted this at UYAC:

...Rewatching the fight, it is easy to realize that this fight bares little resemblance to a Mixed Martial Arts battle outside of Shogun attempting a few takedowns; this was a kickboxing fight. I think a lot of MMA fans are used to scoring and watching fights in a different fashion, but when you adjust the way you look at the fight, a few things become more clear. When you take out who was "stalking" who and who was clinching who, the fight becomes a lot more simple to score.

Round one was Lyoto Machida's round. He opens with a thai clinch and a flurry of knees. Shogun throughout most of the round, if not the fight was stalling against the cage. In round one he threw a few knees to the hamstrings of Lyoto, but the damage those did really didn't come into the equation until the late rounds of the fight. Nearly every strike Rua threw completely missed the mark or was blocked. I see a lot of people quoting FightMetric to defend their stance, and all I can say is I'm not sure what fight they were watching and that FightMetric, while the output is somewhat scientific, is still validated and entered by humans, so there is a margin of error.

No doubt in these early rounds Shogun was pushing forward, but his strikes simply weren't landing other than when he clinched against the cage. Machida would wait, counterattack and score points. The cleanest shot in the second round was Machida's kick to the midsection about halfway through if you watch it carefully. Shogun once again scored all of his shots clinching against the cage with some close range knee strikes. Even Shogun's flying kick was partially blocked and countered by a right hand by Machida, that puts Lyoto up two rounds. Machida starts the third round off by scoring points again, nullifying Shogun's strikes. The only clean strikes are a few that Machida slips in. Round three was more of the same, with Shogun scoring a bit more, but Machida having a flurry near the end with Shogun scoring twice, Machida quite a few more times.

This leaves the fight 3 - 0 for Machida. Going into Round four, Lyoto is tired and the clinch knees to the legs have slowed him down considerably. Rounds four and five play out the same way, but with Lyoto being tired from the leg strikes and Shogun scoring the points. This leaves the final score at 3 - 2. If this were a fight in K-1, I could easily see the judges sending this into an Extension round.

While I understand this was a MMA fight, and clinching is a legitimate method of fighting, as a kickboxing match this fight is easily Lyoto Machida's. As a MMA fight I'm inclined to see it the same way, although you could score the first round as a draw round and the fight in general as a draw. I see no real controversy, just differences in opinions.

[Tonez]

He raises some good points but at the end of the day it wasn't a kickboxing match it was an MMA match, not that it should change the decision by a whole heap.

There is no doubting that Shogun missed quite a few kicks and punches but he also connected many times even in the first and second round.

BM2 mentions that Shogun was completely off the mark in Rounds 1 and 2 and I have to disagree. Machida had some massive red marks on his ribs end of round 1 and 2, and by the end of round 3 on his shins and thighs from explosive kicks by Shogun.

Shogun was constantly the aggressor, constantly moving forward and seemed to dominate even when he had him up against the cage. I'm not saying Machida was completely smashed but I think Shogun won.

[Sweating Bullets]

Carwin vs Lesnar has been moved to early 2010

[Lazlow]

Yeah, Lesnar needed more time to get clean :D

[Dukotoja]

i saw lesners debut ufc bout last night and he got the shit kicked out of him (well not really but he really lacked a hell of a lot) and now i read in wiki that he is heavyweight title holder? he must have learned quick or taken a lot of beatings.

[Lazlow]

He just learnt from his n00b mistake, I don't think anyone's tested his chin yet. He is a beast of an athelete, and will be a tough prospect on the ground.

[REQUIEM]

Lesnar is the FUTURE of MMA IMO. His age strenght and ability will florish in the next few years.

[Lazlow]

oh brother >_<

[Shattereddreams]

He raises some good points but at the end of the day it wasn't a kickboxing match it was an MMA match, not that it should change the decision by a whole heap.

There is no doubting that Shogun missed quite a few kicks and punches but he also connected many times even in the first and second round.

BM2 mentions that Shogun was completely off the mark in Rounds 1 and 2 and I have to disagree. Machida had some massive red marks on his ribs end of round 1 and 2, and by the end of round 3 on his shins and thighs from explosive kicks by Shogun.

Shogun was constantly the aggressor, constantly moving forward and seemed to dominate even when he had him up against the cage. I'm not saying Machida was completely smashed but I think Shogun won.

^^^
Agreed. There are a number of people that are trying to justify the decision in retrospect, but I can't imagine that these same people actually predicted Machida getting the decision prior to it being announced. Machida himself looked completely defeated, whilst Shogun was ecstatic at the end of the fight.

I feel so outrageously sorry for Shogun, even though he's getting a rematch. I can't imagine Machida being the most fun person to fight ever. I am a much bigger Machida fan than Shogun fan, but I really want Shogun to take the rematch.

[Lazlow]

Machida himself looked completely defeated

He said post fight that he looked disappointed because he didn't finish Shogun like he felt he could.

[Sweating Bullets]

Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers this weekend. I totally missed preview - did anyone else catch it?

So thoughts on the card?? Any predictions??

* Heavyweight bout: Fedor Emelianenko vs. Brett Rogers
* Middleweight Championship bout: Jake Shields vs. Jason Miller
* Light Heavyweight bout: Gegard Mousasi vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou
* Heavyweight bout: Fabricio Werdum vs. Antonio Silva

Sokoudjou vs Mousasi seems like a strange match up. I think Mousasi will beat the crap out of him.

[REQUIEM]

He just learnt from his n00b mistake, I don't think anyone's tested his chin yet. He is a beast of an athelete, and will be a tough prospect on the ground.

Dont forget leznar's reach, as Randy Couture said it just kept coming.

[Lazlow]

Reach is negated by solid in-fighting

[IRS]

Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers this weekend. I totally missed preview - did anyone else catch it?

So thoughts on the card?? Any predictions??

* Heavyweight bout: Fedor Emelianenko vs. Brett Rogers
* Middleweight Championship bout: Jake Shields vs. Jason Miller
* Light Heavyweight bout: Gegard Mousasi vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou
* Heavyweight bout: Fabricio Werdum vs. Antonio Silva

Sokoudjou vs Mousasi seems like a strange match up. I think Mousasi will beat the crap out of him.

They were meant to fight in Dream as part of the SuperHulk tournament. But Mousassi bitched out because he was scared to fight Minowaman.


At least Mousassi will run a train on Soko and injure him out of new years eve. Making the super hulk final Minowaman vs Jimmy Ambriz (courtesy of the Pav)


This card is badass.

[Lazlow]

Minowaman v Shibata II!

[IRS]

Minowa vs a horse

[Lazlow]

Shibata vs Split Pea with Ham

[IRS]

Badass Sengoku coming up.

[Lazlow]

I should really install TVU again.

[IRS]

Just type sengoku stream when it's on. You'll get a good feed.

[Lazlow]

From Pro's Pick Fedor v Rogers on Sherdog

Chael Sonnen: Two fatties swinging like bums. Yawn, stretch, back to sleep.

[Sweating Bullets]

From Pro's Pick Fedor v Rogers on Sherdog

I love the constant hating of Fedor from UFC.

*ahem*
Cro Cop at UFC 110

[Lazlow]

I'm probably giving the Aus event a miss.

Gotta fly to Sydney, find somewhere to stay, get arena tickets, and then spend the entire night watching the Arena big screen because the affordable seats are in the nosebleed section.

Fingers crossed its live on One.

[Sweating Bullets]

Cmon Laz!!!!!!!!!
You are crazy! I think if you get your accommodation and flights sorted out it will be a lot cheaper than when they announce ticket prices

[Lazlow]

Nah, seriously I have more pressing financial matters to attend to. Plus I think the Tapout shirt wearing crowd will ruin it for me >_>

[Sweating Bullets]

Fair enough! I will be getting flights and rooms sorted in the coming weeks to avoid the price hike.

Strikeforce in one day! Woohoo! Just wondering if there has been a Strikeforce equivalent to a UFC Countdown for this event? I think I saw an ad but can't seem to find it :/

[REQUIEM]

Reach is negated by solid in-fighting So by that you are saying that Randy Couture was beaten by a worse fighter? As IMO Randy Couture is one of the best SOLID IN-FIGHTERS to date?

[Lazlow]

Your opinion is a question?

Randy's striking is okay, he displayed great head movement against Sylvia, but Sylvia is a lumbering sloth compared to Lesnar. Randy has a tendency to drop his hands.

[Lazlow]

http://i34.tinypic.com/168yjr4.gif

A-Rod eat your heart out, this is how you hit a home run

[Sweating Bullets]

UFC 105

How the **** did Kang lose?!?!?!?!?!?!

[IRS]

UFC 105

How the **** did Kang lose?!?!?!?!?!?!

Because he sucks and has serious defensive liabilities.

He can't stand being punched in the face. You hit him hard once and the wheels fly off his wagon.

[Sweating Bullets]

le sigh

I am still in disbelief about it.

[Sweating Bullets]

UFC 106 - was really looking forward to the Karo/Hazlett fight. Looks like Karo pulled out and has now been kicked out of the UFC

[Sweating Bullets]

UFC 110 - looks like Cain vs Big Nog will be taking place in Sydney. All kinds of awesome.

[Lazlow]

Although apparently Wand/Sexyama is now Wand/Bisping :(

[RIZEMMA]

Hey guys... I noticed the MMA forum thread here and thought some of you might be interested in this...

RIZE MMA is running their third show on 5th December 2009, and tickets are on sale. The night is shaping up to be huge, with UFC veterans Ricco Rodriguez & Anthony Perosh, plus Rob Hill, Ian Bone, Tony Rossini, Ross Dallow, Steve Micallef, Pat Crawley and other Australian and international fighters putting on some awesome fights. There will be two 4-man tournaments on the night, for the 70kg title and 84kg title, which will be decided with final matches in 2010.

Ticket prices are:

$40 - General Admission Standing
$60 - 3rd & 4th Row
$70 - 2nd Row
$80 - 1st Row
(VIP tables also available)

Contact rize@rizemma.com for more details, and get in quick as tickets are expected to sell out quickly!

RIZE MMA
www.rizemma.com
rize@rizemma.com

Or check out the Facebook page for updates... www.facebook.com/RIZEMMA

[Sweating Bullets]

I would love to check out some local MMA!! The only problem is that I am working next weekend! grrrr!!!!

[Lazlow]

BM2 posted about it at UYAC

Ahahahahahahahaha





Guess who's fighting in Victoria?







http://i45.tinypic.com/5ugz7k.jpg







RICCO RODRIGUEZ









IN MANSFIELD







Which is halfway to NSW.











INEXPLICABLE URGE TO GO TO MANSFIELD







(REALLY INEXPLICABLE)

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6369/frrodriguez2large.jpg

I'll take a McRicco to go.

[RIZEMMA]

Mansfield is in Brisbane, Qld. There's a map on the website if it helps :)

[IRS]

BM2 posted about it at UYAC



http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6369/frrodriguez2large.jpg

I'll take a McRicco to go.

lol dude, Ricco did the cocain diet. He was down to 217? for ADCC


(and looked horrible)



Still, if it was in my neck of the woods I'd go, should be decent enough Battle at the Barnesk show.


Only ever get Muay Thai shows here.

[Lazlow]

lol dude, Ricco did the cocain diet

See how out of the loop I am!! :(


EDIT:

BM2 has his finger on the pulse;

****ING LOL



For the Australian UFC card.




ELIVS SINOSIC


vs









CHRIS HASEMAN





(THE HOTLY ANTICIPATED REMATCH)










WAS CONSIDERING NOT GOING BECAUSE I COULDN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT BISPING


COULD THIS CHANGE MY MIND?

[RIZEMMA]

Ricco is fighting at 100kg so he's looking tuff.

[Sweating Bullets]

Apparently Warmachine smashed some people at a porn party and now the cops are looking for him. wtf

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=11593410&nav=menu107_2_8

I can't ****ing link youtube clips properly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozYTYLEer2I

[RIZEMMA]

The fight card for this Saturday has now been finalised. Unfortunately we must announce that the scheduled match on RIZE 3 between Ricco Rodriguez and Sam “Striker” Brown won’t be going ahead as planned. There were some logistical travel issues with getting Ricco here for this show, so his appearance in the RIZE ring will have to wait for 2010.

Fortunately Sam will still be appearing on the show, in what should still be a very interesting match against Michael Van Der Vlist from the Elite Fight Gym (with Michael coming off an impressive win on the last CFC).

This card is HUGE with some of the best talent from Australia, New Zealand and beyond… it should speak for itself! :D

93kg
Kym Robinson (Ring Works Intl, Adelaide) vs. Anthony Perosh (SPMA, Sydney)

Catchweight Match
Michael Van Der Vlist (Elite Fight Gym, Penrith) vs. Sam “Striker” Brown (StrikeForce, Auckland)

70kg
Patrick Conroy (TMT, Thailand) vs. Rob Hill (Lange's MMA, Sydney)

70kg
Ken Yasuda (Shooting Gym, Hakkei JP) vs. Daniel Hooker (Fight Centre, Auckland)

84kg
Pat Crawley (StrikeForce, Auckland) vs. Steve Micallef (SPMA, Sydney)

84kg
Leigh Allwood (Elite Fight Gym, Penrith) vs. Ross Dallow (Extreme, Melbourne)

77kg
Dave Nicholls (Faith MMA, Auckland) vs. Tony Rossini (IMA, Brisbane)

70kg
Sonny Brown (Lange's MMA, Sydney) vs. Chris Bridgewater (Modern Warrior, Brisbane)

77kg
Sam Fiamatai (Faith MMA, Auckland) vs. Ian Bone (Body Torque, Townsville)

53kg
Jessica Tolhurst (Black Dragon, Brisbane) vs. Claire Fryer (Advance MA, Brisbane)

60kg
Tyson Kroehn (Rings, Toowoomba) vs. Stephen Cornish (Advance MA, Brisbane)


The following matches also comprise the first round of 4-man tournaments at both 70kg and 84kg to crown our first RIZE champions on RIZE 4 in March 2010:

70kg
Patrick Conroy (TMT, Thailand) vs. Rob Hill (Lange's MMA, Sydney)
Ken Yasuda (Shooting Gym, Hakkei JP) vs. Daniel Hooker (Fight Centre, Auckland)

84kg
Pat Crawley (StrikeForce, Auckland) vs. Steve Micallef (SPMA, Sydney)
Leigh Allwood (Elite Fight Gym, Penrith) vs. Ross Dallow (Extreme, Melbourne)

The winners of these fights will be back for RIZE 4 for the belts, along with Rod McSwain vs Daniel Digby competing for the 77kg title after winning their matches in the 4 man tournament on RIZE 2.

We'd be interested to hear who people think will take these titles! Any bets?

www.rizemma.com

[Lazlow]

RE: Green v Jones Jnr

HOLY F***!

Danny Green by 1st Round TKO


EDIT:

LOL @ all the comments on the chat window of the stream I'm watching. Some calling it rigged, some calling Mundine a beast

[NiB]

RE: Green v Jones Jnr

HOLY F***!

Danny Green by 1st Round TKO


EDIT:

LOL @ all the comments on the chat window of the stream I'm watching. Some calling it rigged, some calling Mundine a beast

An absolute anti climax.....I want my pay per view money back

[Lazlow]

In other news Sherdog have posted an article on 5 Unforgettable MMA Brawls (http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/5-Unforgettable-MMA-Brawls-21245) and it doesn't feature Takayama v Frye. O_o



Om3sZo9KIxI

[castr8or]

We'd be interested to hear who people think will take these titles! Any bets?
www.rizemma.com

My biased self is wishing Anthony and Steve the best of luck!

[RIZEMMA]

I'm guessing you're from SPMA then castr8or :)

[castr8or]

I'm guessing you're from SPMA then castr8or :)

its a distinct possibility!

[Sweating Bullets]

UFC tix on sale. Looks like a whole lot of diamond tix have sold already.
Can't seem to get a good grouping of seats.

[Lazlow]

HOLY SHIT, MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED!

UFC 110 will be aired live on Australian free-to-air sports channel ONE HD.

This certainly makes up for not going.

This is event was the 2nd fastest sellout for the UFC after GSP v Serra 2.

[Sweating Bullets]

Oh wowzer! That's awesome news!
Look out for me in the crowd Laz!

[Shattereddreams]

Wow.
**** Shinya Aoki.

[Sweating Bullets]

What a douchebag!!!
Crazy ass sub tho

[Lazlow]

Dynamite!! was awesome and I only managed to catch half of it.

[castr8or]

Wow.
**** Shinya Aoki.

so i've seen the fight

was there a genuine reason for the dodgy post-fight behaviour?

I mean, for example, Lesnar has consistantly demonstrated when you chuck a camera in front of him he'll act like a jerk, i'm not super familiar with Aoki but i assume he isn't like that? so was there genuine bad blood between them? or did he figure time to play heel and get the recognition he deserves?

[Lazlow]

Just Aoki being Aoki.

[Lazlow]

Watching UFC 84... I <3 Machida

[Shattereddreams]

so i've seen the fight

was there a genuine reason for the dodgy post-fight behaviour?

I mean, for example, Lesnar has consistantly demonstrated when you chuck a camera in front of him he'll act like a jerk, i'm not super familiar with Aoki but i assume he isn't like that? so was there genuine bad blood between them? or did he figure time to play heel and get the recognition he deserves?

There was a little bit of trashtalking going on but otherwise it's just Aoki being a jerk. Weird how they had the respect to touch gloves earlier on and then end the fight with that kind of bullshit. Aoki has always been a cocky bastard but this went a little far.

I still enjoy watching him as a fighter but he's messed up and I love watching him lose. Sakurai beating his face in was satisfying.

[Shattereddreams]

Also, Gomi signed with UFC. Predictions as to how he'll fare?

[Lazlow]

Not well.

[IRS]

Dynamite was FANTASTIC! Was on holidays until tonight so I am still watching it now (watching the filler fights, all the good stuff done).

Aoki is the ultimate heel!

[IRS]

I don't really like Gomi in the cage, he is a power puncher and one of the few people to actually use the corners of the ring effectively to trap and bomb on fighters.


Let alone how unmotivated and deflated he has fought since Pride died.


At least he is a proper LW and won't be fighting at a 5-10kg disadvantage like most weight cutting phobic Japanese.

[Lazlow]

DHn96ZOWE1w

So basically this all stems from an opinion piece Jake Rossen wrote (http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Foreign-Intrigue-Whites-10-Year-Plan-21740) regarding White's comments that in 10 years time, MMA will be the biggest sport in the world.

I wholly agree with Rossen's comments. Boxing has never entered the mainstream consciousness the likes of which Soccer, or Rugby have. Some people just don't like combat sports, plain and simple.

Its hilarious that White should enter into this tirade, considering how much coverage Sherdog have given to UFC 108. They are MMA reporters, not UFC mouth pieces.

[Lazlow]

Picked up a copy of Inside MMA a sister mag' to Blitz. Mainly because it had an article on the current regulations state-by-state in Australia. Here's the gist of it:

WA - Only ever held 2 official MMA events. Rules are set on a promo-by-promo basis, subject to the approval of the Professional Combat Sports Commission Board. Any Cages/Rings must meet the minimum engineering standards as per the promoter's license.

SA - The Minister for Sport will only authorise rules for professional combat sports bouts from recognised sanctioning bodies (ie. ISKA, WKA, and WMC). Essentially they prefer it this way as the sanctioning bodies can provide properly trained officials. ISKA and WKA are currently trying to get full MMA rules bouts approved; ISKA recently had some success at getting C-Class shooto rules approved for one event, by having already approved San Shou and BJJ rules combined.

Vic - Its a misconception that MMA is banned in Victoria, MMA was officially sanctioned by the Victorian Boxing and Combat Sports Board in 2002, however it was reported that "cage fighting" was banned by the Minister for Sport, Recreation and Youth Affairs in 2005. In fact there was a change to the regulations that essentially the banned the use of a cage, MMA bouts are still allowed upon having their rules approved or use a set of rules already approved. (There's some additional info detailing the lengths the UFC would have to go to get an event held in Victoria - essentially there's some red tape and they need to have an established presence)

Tas - No official sanctioning body for pro combat sports in Tasmania, the approval power lies with the police commissioner and they have only ever focused on boxing. They expect this responsibility to shift to the Tasmanian Office of Sport and Recreation, though no official announcement has been made.

ACT - Pro MMA is currently not covered by the state's boxing Control Act. ACT Sport & Recreation Services is currently reviewing ammendments that would allow Pro MMA, Kickboxing, Muay Thai in the future.

NSW - Has held many events and considered the centre for local MMA. Its home to Australia's highest profile org' CFC (Cage Fighting Championship). The state is currently in a transitional period with the NSW Combat Sports Authority being established and set to take over from the Boxing Authority of NSW. NSWCSA will take over responsibility of combat sports covered by the act including boxing, kickboxing in its many forms, and MMA in its many forms. This means MMA will be fully regulated, with rules for bouts to be determined by the NSWCSA. It is believed the UFC rules will be used as a benchmark for all sanctioned MMA events in NSW.

QLD - No professional combat sport has ever been regulated in Queensland, so promoters have been free to run MMA fights using any rule set they please. Self regulation seems to have worked so far, with many events adopting the Unified Rules and requiring pre-fight medical checks. In 2007 there was a call for public consultation to draft a set of regulations for combat sports, however thus far the results of this consultation haven't been released. However Inside MMA received this official statement from the QLD gov:

"Since 1998, the Qld Government has considered on three separate occasions the need for regulation of boxing and combat sports within the state. The Qld Government has concluded there is a lack of evidence to demonstrate that regulation by the state is either needed or more effective that self-regulation by the industry in managing safety and risks within boxing and combat sports"

NT - Similar to QLD in that there is no regulation of professional combat sports. Rules are generally agreed upon based on purse and experience (ie elbows are rarely used for small money fights due to the high risk of fighting ending cuts). So far the NT has only one promoter of MMA fights who has mainly focused on kickboxing, but is considering a full MMA event in 2010.

[Lazlow]

-XisoUegzUw

[Sweating Bullets]

UFC here I come!! Flying out soon. Will miss the weigh-ins but will be there early tomorrow for the prelims!

[Lazlow]

In case you missed it Sinosic's out, Rothwell's out... so they've got Anthony Perosh facing Cro Cop, whilst Haseman is now benched. (http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=10784&zoneid=13)

Kinda stink there's now one fight less, but with the cancellations happening with such short notice, its understandable.

[IRS]

I still have hope for Tony Bonello rocking up fight Haseman.


If only he was managed by the Pav!!!

[Lazlow]

Also a reminder: UFC 110 live on ONE HD from 1pm Sunday. Replayed at 10pm.

(This is QLD time, adjust for your own time zone)

[Lazlow]

UFC looking to hold next Australian event in Melbourne (http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=10807&zoneid=13)

Of course the current law that prohibits fighting in a cage will need to be overcome.

[Lazlow]

This post event report by the Sydney Morning Herald is sure to please MMA fans (http://www.smh.com.au/national/caged-fury-brutal-sport-a-hit-with-fans-20100221-oo2z.html)... and video game fans.

[Sweating Bullets]

Just back home now. UFC was awesome live!!

Got some pics with CB Dollaway and Ryan Bader. Had a little chat to them cause they ended up sitting near us. Was crazy!!

Tried to crash their after party that was being held in a nightclub (one of their mates told us to come along as I was talking to him during the UFC). Turns out that we turned up far too late but managed to see Tracey Lee walk in - man she has a massive massive pair and was fairly thick. Didn't get a chance to talk to her as she was ushered into the club very quickly.

Ended up walking around the city for a place to drink and ran into a drunk Joe Rogan (scored a pic with him). Stumbled into Jackson's afterparty but the UFC people were so heavily fortified it was impossible to do anything outside of seeing them at a distance.

Arianny tried to exit quietly and I was very lucky to score a pic with her - no one noticed her as she was in a suit but I was like zomg! Whilst trying to take the picture on the shitty iPhone camera - Tiki walked pasted and I was like "TIKI!! Can you help out??" - he took the picture for me so I look a bit strange in the dark pic with Arianny. Chatted to Tiki and her for a quick bit. A drunk Rampage stumbled out to goto the toilet and was swarmed - he slapped people who took a picture with him (light slap). We tried to get a picture but my mate with the proper camera was in hospital.

Then we tried to find another place to drink and Star City was epic fail. So we tried the Cross. Hung around there for a bit and whilst getting some food ran into Gray Maynard and got an awesome pic with him. He was a bit smashed. Rashad Evans was helping out a homeless dude and didn't respond to us asking him for pics with him so we snuck a few shots of him. Then a very drunk Wanderlei was telling people how much he loved the fans and please no more pictures... ok one more... But it was too dark to get a pic with the iPhone clearly.

Gonna watch UFC 110 on Foxtel soon - I recorded it on that IQ thing. I say again - awesome freaking time in Sydney.

[Lazlow]

What Tapout shirt did you wear?

[castr8or]

ahhh Wanderlei seems like he'd be terrifying as a drunk

[Sweating Bullets]

What Tapout shirt did you wear?

Don't have any. Just wore just normal casual gear - jeans and YD top.

[Lazlow]

ahhh Wanderlei seems like he'd be terrifying as a drunk

Terrifyingly affectionate, I reckon he'd be a sentimental.

[Sweating Bullets]

Wanderlei was hilarious drunk. Him strolling down the street was like this:

"I love the fans! Please no more pictures I need to leave"
Random walks upto Wandy - "Please one picture"
"Ok one last picture. I need to go"
Random walks upto Wandy - "Please one picture"
"Ok one last picture. I need to go"
"I love the fans! Please no more pictures I need to leave"

He was stuck in a loop for 3 minutes then was able to break free.

[IRS]

Tried to crash their after party that was being held in a nightclub (one of their mates told us to come along as I was talking to him during the UFC). Turns out that we turned up far too late but managed to see Tracey Lee walk in - man she has a massive massive pair and was fairly thick. Didn't get a chance to talk to her as she was ushered into the club very quickly.


Honest to god.Who gives a **** about that fugly mutt, Tracy Lee?


I am disappointed it made it into your write up.

[Lex]

so I've been watching a bunch of UFC on One, and I'm loving it. I think I finally 'get' combat sports. well, this one anyway, still find boxing boring as shit.

where should I go to get more? are there certain fights I need to see? any good sites for videos?

[IRS]

ahhh Wanderlei seems like he'd be terrifying as a drunk

I don't think so. Dude is a complete class act.

[RIZEMMA]

Hey guys! Just thought I'd let you know RIZE MMA's 4th event is scheduled for Saturday 27th March 2010 in Brisbane. The night will have a full card of exciting matches, including our three title fights:

Lightweight Title: Daniel Hooker v Rob Hill
Welterweight Title: Rod McSwain v Daniel Digby
Middleweight Title: Ross Dallow v Pat Crawley

See our website (www.rizemma.com) and contact us if you'd like more details.

Cheers!
RIZE MMA

[Sweating Bullets]

Jones elbow to Vera was insane!

Saw a clip of Vera explaining what happened. He was pretty drugged out.

Predictions on tomorrow's GSP vs Hardy and Carwin vs Mir?
Pretty bummed out that Alves had to withdraw - the rematch with Fitch would have been awesome.

[Lazlow]

GSP and Carwin to crush their respective opponents. Everything else; don't care.

To explain my lack of enthusiasm, this post;

I think the combination of Pride dying and UFC continuously tying shit up with TUF has made it a little hard to follow. That and I struggle to maintain the ratio limit at XWT so every now and then I plunder it for Dream and Sengoku events and then get kicked.

UFC's heavyweight division is starting to get interesting, but their cards should be like Pride's were at their peak; instead they are spreading themselves too thin across Versus, Spike, PPV and with TUF.

Hopefully Dream is in a stable enough position to absorb Sengoku (which is very likely as the crowds at their last event were apparently very sparse) and return Japanese MMA to the spectacle that Pride produced.

Bellator has recently done a deal for international distribution so hopefully acessing coverage of their events will be easier.

TBH - and I feel dirty for saying this - Strikeforce is really the only company that piques my interest when their events come around. >_>

[IRS]

Although I prefer Japanese MMA because I mark out for guys like Minowaman and Japanese fighters are generally more innovative and creative (and hence entertaining. Not just for the fight itself but to consider style matchups). MMA is still very very good.


Just look at each fight on it's merit. We're long past the Pride 03-06 days where every card got you excited for every single god damn fight on the card. And stacked GPs. But we still get the same amount (maybe more) of quality fights, and they're much easier to attain rather than downloading a shitty upload on kazaa or something. It is however spread thin across so many different events.


Don't kid yourself that Japanese MMA will boom again. It was a fad in Japan 5 years ago just like it is a fad for western countries now.






BTW: After Alves vs Fitch was cut, I couldn't really give a shit about tomorrows UFC

That's another frustrating part is the countless fights that get dropped or re-structured in the states.

[Lazlow]

GSP and Carwin to crush their respective opponents.F***in' called it :cool:

[Sweating Bullets]

Thoughts on UFC 112?

Also the new TUF have some pretty decent fighters imo.

[IRS]

New TUF fighters are garbage. One of the talent weakest seasons ever. Up there with UK vs USA for bad fighters.


UFC 112 thoughts from UYAC

Munoz vs Grove was an absolutely FANTASTIC fight.


The BJ fight was a bit funny, not a robbery, not a 50-45 like one judge said. I think it really made a case for 10-10 rounds being used more. I scored it 49-48 BJ


Anderson is the ultimate heel. Shows off then doesn't deliver. Maia easily won the last 2 rounds. Anderson was lucky he didn't get a point deducted in the last round and make it a draw.

[Sweating Bullets]

Thoughts on UFC 112?

[Lazlow]

SB stuck in a loop? >_>

[Sweating Bullets]

Shows how much I read posts around here. Soz.

Also the new TUF fighters are garbage?! Wth. I thought there were pretty damned good.

Predictions on Strikeforce this weekend? Should be good fights!

[IRS]

Shows how much I read posts around here. Soz.

Also the new TUF fighters are garbage?! Wth. I thought there were pretty damned good.

Predictions on Strikeforce this weekend? Should be good fights!

If your criteria for good is how many tribal tattoos they have and how much tapout gear they wear. Then they are fantastic.


There's a couple standouts like Kyle Noke who should win it. But most those dudes are green and raw as hell.

[Lazlow]

I've only read that Kyle Noke was Liddell's first pick, and that the Dana and... the other coach (>_>) were rubbishing Liddell's picks; mainly that they were too small.

[Sweating Bullets]

Rematch of Shogun and Machida next week. I'm hoping that Shogun gets the win.
Also that Ed Soares guy needs a ****ing few punches to the head - he was really annoying during Countdown to UFC 113.

Never thought I would hope that Kos wins but he would put up a better fight against GSP than Daley. Daley's fight against Shields was an eye opener.

Read the results from WEC and it looks like some awesome fights took place.

Still a bit shocked that Hendo lost against Shields. Wonder what this means for Strikeforce. Also read that Robbie Lawler is fighting Sobral next. wtf is up with that.

[IRS]

Rematch of Shogun and Machida next week. I'm hoping that Shogun gets the win.
Also that Ed Soares guy needs a ****ing few punches to the head - he was really annoying during Countdown to UFC 113.

Never thought I would hope that Kos wins but he would put up a better fight against GSP than Daley. Daley's fight against Shields was an eye opener.

Read the results from WEC and it looks like some awesome fights took place.

Still a bit shocked that Hendo lost against Shields. Wonder what this means for Strikeforce. Also read that Robbie Lawler is fighting Sobral next. wtf is up with that.

Just because Kos is likely to last the full 5 rounds and Daley would go down in 2-3 doesn't mean he is more likely to win.

Kos has nothing for GSP on the feet or on the ground, as we have already seen. And since that fight GSP looks to have improved more than Kos.


Daley, while he will be molested on the ground, has the clearer route to victory. He has power in both hands. Do you really think Kos can either finish GSP or win 3 rounds? no. Well Daley couldnt win 3 rounds ever, but at least he has enough to put GSP away if he gets the chance.


Moot point anyway since they both get molested.




Lawler vs Sobral is a decent fight. It is only happening because Mayhem might be unable to be licensed after the Sheilds interview fiasco

[IRS]

Plenty of awesome fighting this month

Looking forward to

Hioki vs Lion Takeshi
Mayorga vs Din Thomas (interest in if it actually happens!!!)
Tim Sylvia vs. Mariusz Pudzianowski

+ Bellator and seeing if Ubereem can pass a piss test after fighting (and probably smashing) Rogers

[Sweating Bullets]

Daley is gonna get suspended or cut after that post fight bell antics. Jeez.
Still at least the post fight was more entertaining....

[Sweating Bullets]

Spoiler for Shogun vs Machida:

http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt157/apexamg/komachida.jpg

[IRS]

Daley is gonna get suspended or cut after that post fight bell antics. Jeez.
Still at least the post fight was more entertaining....

Daley and Kimbo both got axed tonight

[Sweating Bullets]

What are your thoughts on cutting Daley IRS?

Sherdog is going burko with some good arguments in that Shields was just signed after his brawl with Miller and they cut Daley. Granted they are in different contexts as Miller should not have been in the cage.

[IRS]

It's a nothing move.


If he was more important or valuable he would have gotten away with it. But it's still shitty behavior that should be discouraged.



I think mentioning Sheilds is pointless. He didn't do anything really wrong. It was Nick Diaz that caused a shitstorm. A more appropriate comparison would be Babalu, and in that case it's actually pretty consistent.



Decent event overall.

[Lazlow]

Daley isn't to the UFC, what Shields is to Strikeforce.

[Sweating Bullets]

FFS. Dream 14 and UFC 114 on the same night? wtf.

Man I hope Diaz gets beat up but it seems unlikely.

[IRS]

Diaz is going to smash Sakurai


btw, it's not the same night. Dream will be on Sat and UFC will be on the Sunday.

[Sweating Bullets]

Thoughts on today's Strikeforce??

Hey anyone here watch Bellator? Is it any good? Should I check it out??

[Lazlow]

Thoughts on today's Strikeforce??

Entirely predictable result really. Overeem is simply a beast with the best striking of any heavyweight in MMA

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7325/ubereem.gif

[Sweating Bullets]

Impact FC in Australia. I think their website is still coming together so here is their facebook account.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Impact-FC/117930254896775

Some of the posters:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs659.snc3/32562_122310647792069_117930254896775_203667_60966 5_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs559.ash1/32562_122310661125401_117930254896775_203668_11849 91_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs659.snc3/32562_122310671125400_117930254896775_203669_40940 47_n.jpg

Karo is on the card - so is Denis Kang.
Apprently Rua is fighting also so it might be a chance to see Shogun down here....

[Lazlow]

BM2 posted the full details at UYAC:

Supposed cards for the Australian/NZ shows for Impact FC

July 3rd - Perth

Murilo "Ninja" Rua vs. Jeremy May

Ricco Rodriguez vs. Brad Morris

Jeff Monson vs. Jim Yorke

Paulo Filho vs. John Kolosci

Paul Daley vs. TBA



July 10th - Brisbane:

Josh Barnett vs. Geronimo Dos Santos

Carlos Newton vs. Brian Ebersole

Karo Parisyan vs. Luis Dutra Jr.

Jeff Monson vs. Bira Lima

Paulo Filho vs. Keith Johnson



July 18th - Sydney:

Ken Shamrock vs. Pedro Rizzo

Jeff Monson vs. Ricco Rodriguez

Murilo Bustamante vs. Jesse Taylor

Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou vs. Joaquim Ferreira

Paulo Filho vs. Denis Kang









At first I was like

oh cool haha, Monson is going to be on all three cards

And then I was like

they've also announced Paulo "Mr. Reliable" Filho on all three cards

:|


http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3804/impactmixa2.jpg


Apparently, Impact FC is run by the same guy who (used to run?) Bitetti Combat?

Prices for the Sydney show:

Prices: VIP $350 Platinum $275 Gold $175 Silver $125 Bronze $85

Now I have never been to the venue (I think). But do those prices look a little optimistic to you?

I was a fan a Carlos Newton back in the day, but the guy's fallen off the map so I have no idea where he's at now (ie gone McRicco or making a triumphant return a la Belfort).

Not an event I'll be breaking the bank for.

There is Barnett though...

[Sweating Bullets]

Murilo "Ninja" Rua vs. Jeremy May?

As in the dude who was on TUF?

Sucks how there is no Melbourne show....

[Lazlow]

My gut's telling me they'll be lucky if they manage to even pull off the first show.

I'm surprised there's even Perth show, considering both sides of WA government shut down a KotC event.

I'm guessing Impact FC use a caged enclosure? Would explain the lack of a Melbourne show (ie Vic Gov allow MMA events, just not in a cage; ring only)

[CoolzInferno]

Why is anything of even moderate interest happening in Perth happening when I'm going to be out of the country? There could massive Paul Daley Suckerpunch Hype, and I could have made a sign or something. :(

[CoolzInferno]

Anyone catch UFC 114 today?

I was on the losing side of a Rampage v Rashad bet but overall it was a decent event.

The definite moment of the event for me was the Todd Duffee v Mike Russow fight. When Russow ended up kind of just looking fat and kept getting hit and not being phased by it in the first round, I joked that it was like that episode of the Simpsons where Homer takes up boxing, gets hit a whole heap till the other guy tires out and then shoves him over. When I noticed that Duffee was massively gassing in the first, I advanced that call from a joke to an actual "That's totally going to happen" call.

Lo and behold, late in Round 3, BAM, shoves him over with a punch and Russow wins.

[Lazlow]

SAKU WAS ROBBED!

5char

[Sweating Bullets]

Thoughts on UFC 115? Packed with great fights!

[IRS]

Thoughts on UFC 115? Packed with great fights!

I hope you don't mean it was a good card. It was terrible for a PPV card.



But watching it, I loved it. Liked the main event, back and forward moments, the way Franklin and Chuck take punches made it dramatic from start to finish (although short).








and now TUF 11 is over, can you take back saying that this season had good talent yet?

[Sweating Bullets]

As in entertaining fights...

What season of TUF had decent fighters tho? I still think this one was pretty good skill wise from a TUF perspective.

[IRS]

As in entertaining fights...

What season of TUF had decent fighters tho? I still think this one was pretty good skill wise from a TUF perspective.

1,2,5 and 8 had the level I would hope for this kind of TV show.


This season ranks worst of the worst. Just above UK vs USA.


If you honestly think that is skilled MMA, I'm not sure what I can say. Josh Bryant showed a lot of heart, and Jamie Yager has a lot of fast twitch muscle fibers. But that's all we get. None of these fighters belong in the UFC, and unfortunately they'll all get a chance and probably stick around and steal card space from far superior fighters.

[Sweating Bullets]

I was just about to argue with you but then I looked at the season 8 cast - some of them are doing pretty well so far in the UFC.

USA vs UK was a pretty crappy group. However I still think some of the fighters from this season should do good in the UFC but only time will tell. But no they are not as competitive as other established fighters who are used to big organisation fights but from what they showed on the show I think they will go pretty good. Time will tell I guess.

Few more days until Strikeforce: Los Angeles. Would be good to see how Robbie goes at this catchweight bout. Then TUF finale which I think Jardine will get raped by Hamill.
Then Werdum vs Fedor. And then I am hoping the upcoming Dream Grand Prix is good.
Pretty good few weeks upcoming.

[Lazlow]

TUF is struggling to find quality talent purely because there's more competition out there now. For instance Bellator has beaten them to the punch in securing a few top prospects. And they are heading that way because they'd rather fight for a prize, rather than fight for entry into the organisation.

[IRS]

TUF is struggling to find quality talent purely because there's more competition out there now. For instance Bellator has beaten them to the punch in securing a few top prospects. And they are heading that way because they'd rather fight for a prize, rather than fight for entry into the organisation.

It's kind of this, kind of not.


The UFC NEVER actively pursues fighters. You have to go to them. For example TUF no longer scout as they did for the first couple seasons, now they hold try-outs. Bellator actively look for prospects and make them an offer. If UFC did the same, they would be in better shape.

Not just for TUF but UFC in general. They never offer a guy a contract. It's up to his manager to pursue the UFC and ask them for one. Which is why we keep seeing fighters under the same management get contracts.

[Lazlow]

I was hoping for it, and it has happened; the company that is distributing K-1 DVDs in Australia is also distributing DREAM DVDs. Picked up DREAM 7 today.

[Sweating Bullets]

Totally forgot that the TUF finale is on this weekend.

Also Chael Sonnen's mobile number leaked yesterday and I thought I would try my luck at SMSing him and he replied! I told him to kick Silva and wished him well from some aussie supporters and he said thanks.

Just found out that I have the same birthday as Fedor.

[Lazlow]

Silva is going to humilate Sonnen though.

[IRS]

Also Chael Sonnen's mobile number leaked yesterday and I thought I would try my luck at SMSing him and he replied! I told him to kick Silva and wished him well from some aussie supporters and he said thanks.

You obviously got the number for pre2009 Sonnen not the modern troll Sonnen.

[Sweating Bullets]

I was pretty surprised that he managed to beat Yushin Okami the way that he did. Also when he beat up Nate Marquadt the way that he did was pretty impressive. That said he did some small mistakes that Nate capitilised on such as the guillotines and sharp elbows if those mistakes were repeated on Anderson Silva - it would cost him the fight.

Still the UFC 117 card is looking really promising especially if the Fitch Alves rematch happens. Trying to organise a PPV at a mates for it.

Strikeforce LA results are quite surprising.

[Lazlow]

Strikeforce LA results are quite surprising.

I had Babalu beating Lawler purely through size difference and ground ability. I haven't seen Lawler fight in a while, but he's pretty one dimensional.

Cyborg/Zaromskis was the toughest pick, purely because Cyborg is always lethal in the first round... and first round only. He may have taken out the Dream WW GP but Zaromskis always looked like a loose and risky stand up fighter.

[IRS]

I was pretty surprised that he managed to beat Yushin Okami the way that he did. Also when he beat up Nate Marquadt the way that he did was pretty impressive. That said he did some small mistakes that Nate capitilised on such as the guillotines and sharp elbows if those mistakes were repeated on Anderson Silva - it would cost him the fight.

Still the UFC 117 card is looking really promising especially if the Fitch Alves rematch happens. Trying to organise a PPV at a mates for it.

Strikeforce LA results are quite surprising.

So you're picking Silva to win by guillotine?

[Sweating Bullets]

Silva by d'arce - will knock Sonnen down and then pounce on him. Sonnen will underhook and leave an opening.

Elaborate yes and still probable

[IRS]

Silva by d'arce - will knock Sonnen down and then pounce on him. Sonnen will underhook and leave an opening.

Elaborate yes and still probable

How is it probable? You really think that is a technique Silva is considering when he fights?

[Sweating Bullets]

I think he will do something out of the ordinary. But hey we will see.
I remember you calling crazy for thinking Mir would beat Nog. So this might happen....


IN CRAZY LAND!

[Sweating Bullets]

Wanderlei just pulled out of the Akiyama fight.

[Lazlow]

Another week, another article about Fedor not fighting in the UFC

Haters gonna hate, etc.

EDIT:

lol now its Leben v Sexyama

[castr8or]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/cast8or/9vjoz6.gif

[REQUIEM]

Leben FTW.

[Lazlow]

UFC has cut Jardine and Loiseau (http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=11862&zoneid=13)

[Shattereddreams]

I am so happy... so happy, about the last Strikeforce event.


So... happy.

[Lazlow]

Fedor is emotionless in defeat.

Classic Fedor :D

My thoughts:

Now we'll have to deal the with short sighted f***wits who say Fedor never was any good/overrated/that he should retire/etc. Dana White will make the obligatory "he was beaten by a UFC reject" speech.

[Sweating Bullets]

:O

Still at a loss for words but he will be back and better than ever imo

[Lazlow]

Never speak ill of the company again! (http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=11882&zoneid=13)

“The Ultimate Fighter 3” winner Kendall Grove publicly criticized the Spike TV reality show, then apologized, but not before the television network reacted and pulled his “UFC 116: Lesnar vs. Carwin” preliminary bout off the network’s telecast set for July 3.

Sucks for Goran Reljic who had nothing to do with this and now loses TV time.

[Shattereddreams]

The Cyborg vs. Finney match was disgusting. Kim Winslow should be fired. :|

[Sweating Bullets]

Haha yeh that fight was nuts!
"Do want her to stand up?" The fight was over!!

[castr8or]

meh I'm borderline about the fight and think had it been dudes there wouldn't have been quite an uproar about it.

Finny was getting hit, a lot, but she was still attempting to defend herself out of turtle at one point making a grab for the single, as well as upkicking every now and then.

Could Winslow have stopped it? sure and I wouldn't have complained, at the same time, seeing as Finny was still being active and her corner failed to throw in the towel as well as Finny not tapping I'll give the reffing a pass.

[IRS]

meh I'm borderline about the fight and think had it been dudes there wouldn't have been quite an uproar about it.

Finny was getting hit, a lot, but she was still attempting to defend herself out of turtle at one point making a grab for the single, as well as upkicking every now and then.

Could Winslow have stopped it? sure and I wouldn't have complained, at the same time, seeing as Finny was still being active and her corner failed to throw in the towel as well as Finny not tapping I'll give the reffing a pass.

This.

She was getting beat up, but still defending and mounting offense of her own. The ref did the right thing to let them fight.

[Lazlow]

That makes two (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Fighter-Dies-in-South-Carolina-After-First-Pro-Bout-25374)

[castr8or]

The 6-foot-9 lightweight

lolwut?

[Shattereddreams]

UFC 116 has been one of the most entertaining events I've seen in a while. Not really the most technical fighting ever (although there are some good fights in that regard as well) but ... ****. Highly recommended.

[castr8or]

i agree, prolly my fav UFC this year

Akiyama/Leben was fantastic

[TAT]

I've only really bothered to watch Brock's fights, but I thought that was a really impressive and tactical win for him. Even with my limited MMA knowledge I could see what Brock was doing as soon as he got Carwin to the ground in the second round.

[IRS]

LOL. Pep for TAT

[Sweating Bullets]

So rumblings are that Jackson will be fighting Machida soon.

And Shields just signed into the UFC.

Mir vs Nog 2 should be interesting.

[Lazlow]

and Danny Green called out Brock (http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,27436516-23209,00.html)

[Sweating Bullets]

Anyone watching the Sonnen vs Silva fight?? HOLY SHIT SO FAR!

[Sweating Bullets]

Crap

D:

[IRS]

Troll beats master troll

[Sweating Bullets]

What are your thoughts on it IRS?
Sonnen vs Silva I mean.
Lots of crap over on sherdog.

Great card overall tho.

[IRS]

I really enjoyed it. But I was pulling for Sonnen. His over the top interviews and trolling was fantastic, entertaining stuff.


I think it confirms a lot of what most people already knew about Anderson Silva. He doesn't have a good defensive guard. People act like his butterfly guard is good, but it just isn't. Sonnen isn't that great a passer, but he cut through Silva's guard numerous times. I think despite the size difference, if you had somebody with GSP's (or even Sheilds) guard passing skills they would have carved him up. Fortunately for Silva both of those dudes are very adverse to being punched. And although I rate Okami's passing, he won't take Silva down anyway. So there is still not that much competition for him.

What did surprise me is Sonnen hit him, and hit him hard. Makes me a little interested to get Belfort in there.

The ending was pretty cool on Silva's behalf. But Sonnen is pretty easy to tap (or atleast to scream). So I had lots of nervous moments before he eventually did get caught.

[Sweating Bullets]

I still feel bad that he came up short after 23 minutes of winning the fight. Hopefully he will get a fight at another title. I am hoping that it is not a rematch as it's been far too long of a wait for Vitor.

[Lazlow]

Another Australian columnist drumming up a moral panic after viewing a few photos in a newspaper (http://www.theherald.com.au/blogs/jeff-corbett/cage-fightings-brutality-knows-few-rules/1908052.aspx?page=6)

[enrique]

Another Australian columnist drumming up a moral panic after viewing a few photos in a newspaper (http://www.theherald.com.au/blogs/jeff-corbett/cage-fightings-brutality-knows-few-rules/1908052.aspx?page=6)

:rolleyes: Talk about uninformed.......

Looking forward to 118 this weekend, especially seeing Couture beat down on Toney :D

[Sweating Bullets]

Jardine lost again today.
5 straight losses. Poor guy. Jackson camp's red headed step child?

[Sweating Bullets]

Sonnen has just been notified of PEDs in the drug screening.... let's see how this plays out

[CoolzInferno]

Anyone else psyched for UFC 119 tomorrow? I'm personally hoping for a Crocop win as unlikely as the outcome is. Should also be some fun fights on the card too with the Guillard/Stephens fight and Terra-Serra/Lytle.

[Sweating Bullets]

I would love to see Cro Cop high kick Mir to oblivion after the shit talking he has done.

[CoolzInferno]

War One-Eyed Sagat-style Crocop!

[CoolzInferno]

Well... that was a relatively uneventful event. I thought every fight on the main card might have gone to decision at the rate it was all sort of going at :P

Sherk v Dunham was pretty amazing, despite the decision going the wrong way IMO. The rest of the decisions were kinda lackluster and peppered with dodgy judging. I can't see how any judge could have given it 30-27 to Guillard, he definitely did not win all 3 rounds.

[Sweating Bullets]

I hope Condit wins this weekend.

Anyone have thoughts on UFC120?

[Lazlow]

I hope Sexyama punches Bisping's teeth through the back of his head.

[CoolzInferno]

So, random UFC 120 thoughts:

Grizzled veteran derails the Hype Train of heavily favoured whippersnapper. Annoying woman in sportsbar with painful voice/laugh was going for Hathaway and he lost. It was 9 in the morning and I was glad of that fact;

Cup-check Kongo doesn't win meaning half of my Condit/Browne Multibet was still valid;

Travis Browne somehow manages to switch between intimidating non-blinking half-yeti in the cut to a shot of him at the locker room to looking amazingly unintimidating and like some sort of cuddly bear in the picture of him they juxtapose with Chuck Kongo;

Sexyama loses to Bisping in predictable fashion. I was amazingly disappointed;

CARLOS CONDIT KTFOs DAN HARDY AND I MANAGE TO BREAK EVEN IN BETTING. That in itself was amazing enough a moment to 'make' the PPV and I happened to look down at my phone to check a message when it happened. Grand.

I really don't understand all the calls for Sexyama to drop down to Welterweight, particularly from Dana White. He has abysmally bad cardio already at Middleweight and to drop another weight class on top of that I doubt would work at all for him.

[Lazlow]

He has abysmally bad cardio already at Middleweight and to drop another weight class on top of that I doubt would work at all for him.

Only if he doesn't actually drop down properly and cuts to WW from where he is now.

[enrique]

I was hoping Sexyama would beat Bisping but oh well...

[IRS]

I am surprised Akiyama doesn't weight 160 as he is now. He must be pretty dense.

[Sweating Bullets]

UFC121 - any thoughts??

[Ad-Rock]

Good to see Lesnar lose

[Sweating Bullets]

I have seen some hilarious gifs of the fight.
Dana did not look happy when putting the belt on - knowing his cash cow is gone from the top of the division.


Oh hey anyone watch the Coenen vs Kaufman fight at the last Strikeforce?

At the last Bellator with Huerta vs Alvarez?

[Cicada]

Sanchez vs Thiago was awesome. Sanchez was dominating but Thiago was pretty impressive in holding out. Being lifted into the air and thrown to the floor by a screaming fighter can't be fun :p

As for the main event. Couldn't be more pleased with the result. Velasquez didn't have a scratch on him at the end, his takedown defence left Brock with nothing. Watching it with some friends who tipped Brock to win: they all looked a little shocked when the beating began.

Brock was pretty humble though, surprisingly. Expecting the beard of sorrow to last some time yet :D

[castr8or]

Oh hey anyone watch the Coenen vs Kaufman fight at the last Strikeforce?



yup

Coenen is probably my favorite female fighter at the moment, throws hard and has a slick ground game.

[Sweating Bullets]

yup

Coenen is probably my favorite female fighter at the moment, throws hard and has a slick ground game.

Was a great fight!! Tate fights Connen next?

[castr8or]

Was a great fight!! Tate fights Connen next?


thats the most sensible matchup (then again we are dealing with scot coker hah)

I think its great that they chucked it on a main event card, womens mma needs more exposure

[CoolzInferno]

I had no idea why I should care about Jorge Rivera v Alessio Sakara as the co-main event of UFC 122. I mean what had either of these guys done other than get first round KO'd by Chris Leben? This all changed with this video.

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All aboard the Jorge Rivera (Acapella) Band(wagon)

[Sweating Bullets]

Anyone catch Machida vs Rampage today? Thoughts?

[CoolzInferno]

Main event was quite close. Hardly a robbery by any means IMO. More to do with the flaws in the 10-point must system.

Very few disappointing fights in the undercard or the main card that I ended up seeing. The Falcao fight fail was again arguably caused by the 10-point must system instead of the Pride scoring system. Falcao executed a solid gameplan I thought, don't over commit to anything so he was able to sprawl Harris' takedowns, avoid Harris' hail mary haymakers, explode when he got the chance to and Harris was starting to feel comfortable.

He managed to get 2 rounds in the bag with that, and even a total Harris domination in the 3rd would have only taken it to a draw and he had no incentive to engage seeing as he had a 2-0 lead and the burden wasn't on him to be the aggressor. Fault lies as much with Harris for not actually trying to go all out for a finish in the third as well. The guy was raising his hands afterward in victory.

They didn't focus on Harris' corner during round 2 but it could have been the same deal as with Marquardt in the Okami fight with his corner just giving the usual Grudge/Greg Jackson spiel of of "You're winning this fight." "Keep doing what you're doing." "Breathe."

BJ Penn vs Jon Fitch and George Sotiropoulos vs Dennis Siver have been added to the UFC 127 Sydney card for Feb. That's good news. I was worried that it'd be a Bisping/Rivera main event and a Condit/Lytle co-main. Card's looking quite good at the moment IMO.

[Lazlow]

http://i53.tinypic.com/dc6ez7.gif

[Sweating Bullets]

You think he lost Laz?

[Lazlow]

Bear in mind I haven't watched the fight, but I'm going to say... yes.

[castr8or]

If the fighter thinks he lost, well...

anyways, I swear this MMA thread is kind of pathetic, people please vacate the area and move to the clearly superior UYAC one

[Sweating Bullets]

Randy Couture just retired over Twitter

[castr8or]

****** better come out of retirement to have his soul removed by fedor

[enrique]

I was watching UFC 103 last night on ONE, was watching the Tyson Griffin v Hermes Franca, with Francas curly purple hair it looked like Griffin was beating up a clown lol.

[Lazlow]

WVR is apparently dead
DREAM is on life support
and now the UFC is buying Strikeforce.

Game over man, game over.

[Tonez]

One of the best UFC cards in ****ing ages.

I think Jon "Bones" Jones is going to dominate Light Heavy for a while. He is like the Anderson Silva of that class.

[Sweating Bullets]

One of the best UFC cards in ****ing ages.

I think Jon "Bones" Jones is going to dominate Light Heavy for a while. He is like the Anderson Silva of that class.

I am still in shock after that fight man.

Anyone else watch it? Thoughts?