Splinter Cell: Conviction (Q1 2010) [Archive]

Cian

28-07-2009, 05:45 PM

dimorphic

28-07-2009, 05:48 PM

Vapourware!

grimace06

28-07-2009, 05:52 PM

I'm suprised there hasn't been a thread made about this. It was my favourite game on show at E3 and my most anticipated game of 2009....but it's delayed until the beginning of 2010, somewhere between January and March according to Ubisoft.

If they can make Sam Fisher return to form then I'll be more than happy to wait. The early footage was nothing short of exceptional.

Expectations people?

It's a shame that it's been delayed to next year as it looks great.

It would've gotten better reception as a christmas release rather than a Q1 release that'll get over looked for the rest of the year.

But if it means more polish and an all round better game then so be it.

Xanafalgue

29-07-2009, 10:12 AM

So SC:C, Mass Effect 2 and Bayonetta all lumped together? **** that.

I hope predicaments like this force MS to space releases out a bit over the WHOLE YEAR and not just lump all the good shit in around Christmas.

jawsy

29-07-2009, 10:42 AM

Hang on, what happened to his haircut?

Sweating Bullets

05-02-2010, 12:19 PM

Did I bump the wrong thread? We only have a few posts about this??

Date now confirmed to be April 13th 2010

Dr Skinnybones

05-02-2010, 07:21 PM

I was thinking about pre-ordering the X360 version to get the free copy of Chaos Theory, but MS is shutting Xbox1 LIVE, so no co-op.

Thankfully the new co-op looks awesome.

Bokracroc

06-02-2010, 12:39 AM

Ol' black-brick LIVE is still up?!

Dr Skinnybones

06-02-2010, 01:26 PM

not for long

Mr.Mew

06-02-2010, 01:50 PM

I prefered the idea of going in a more primitive direction for stealthing it up, Double Agent was a seriously crap game and this change got me excited about Splinter Cell again. It was a dangerous move from a huge Publisher. Then they had to go and rework everything, saying "Splinter Cell is about the tech and gadgets". Poor. Thankfully, it looks as if it'll remain a decent game either way.

AranchineD

06-02-2010, 02:38 PM

I think it was more they went and reworked everything because neckbeards all over the world were complaining that "WHAT ARE YOU DOING SPLINTER CELL IS ABOUT THE TECH AND GADGETS" and, well, it went from there.

I kinda did prefer how the game looked before too.

Tonez

22-03-2010, 10:24 AM

Anyone downloaded the demo?

Had a crack of it yesterday and I really enjoyed my time with it. There were a couple of different ways to enter the premises and a couple of different ways to complete the objective.

The auto execute mechanic seemed pretty cool but I can see it getting old for some reason.

At the end of the demo, I was still left wanting more so that can only be a good thing.

Hyperblau

22-03-2010, 10:38 AM

I would like to have a crack but my damn tv is still not repaired....woe is me.

AyatollaofRocknRolla

22-03-2010, 10:53 AM

As a long time splinter cell fan, I'm not quite sure how I feel about the mark and execute feature. It really changes the pace of the encouters. In the demo it seems really set out to do a hand to hand take down and then use the mark and execute to take out the remaining guards. I've always been the splinter cell player that tries to solve encounters with out using a gun. I really hope that style of play is still viable in this game.

dimorphic

22-03-2010, 04:35 PM

I loved it.

It is short, but goddamn a demo has never gotten me more psyched for a game! It was just awesome, from the fantastic presentation and graphics to the music and the combat. Everything fit in perfectly. I was worried the execute moves would become too easy and ruin the game but they are a fantastic addition.

Essentially the way the work is that before you can use one you have to kill someone using hand-to-hand combat, which involves walking up too them (usually sneaking) and pressing 'B'. This takes them down in a cool execution move and then allows you to target guards by pressing 'RB' when your crosshair is over them. Then when you have a clean line of sight on them you press 'Y' and automatically head shot them.

You still have complete control over general shooting and they don't become cheap because you can't always use them, you have to work towards it before you gain them. It's a very cool idea and works very, very well in the demo.

The interrogation scene at the beginning is visceral, violent and oh-so satisfying. Beating a guy's head through bathroom sinks, mirrors and walls before snapping his neck is brilliant.

Basically the demo set's us up for the real game. It does it's job, which is to make me want to buy the full title. April can't come fast enough!

Xanafalgue

23-03-2010, 02:18 AM

Demo was okay, I died several times and just gave up. I'm not good at stealth.

McChimp

23-03-2010, 07:15 AM

LOVED the demo! Long-time SC fan and I can honestly say that this feels like a smart, natural evolution of the old SC mechanics and play-style. SERIOUSLY thinking about pre-ordering this!

Tonez

12-04-2010, 02:24 PM

This Thursday fellas.

Awesome.

Hyperblau

12-04-2010, 02:29 PM

Apparently the story mode for this is only 5 hours long...? Spoiled my excitement a bit since I dont get into the multiplayer on most games too heavily.

Tonez

12-04-2010, 02:33 PM

Apparently the story mode for this is only 5 hours long...? Spoiled my excitement a bit since I dont get into the multiplayer on most games too heavily.

Why did you tell me this?

AyatollaofRocknRolla

12-04-2010, 02:52 PM

The IGN review described this game as Splinter Cell by name only, with Sam Fisher now more like Jack Bauer. Having accepted this Splinter Cell will be different, this actually sounds cool. Also playing on realistic should ensure that you think about what you are doing in each encounter. Throw in excellent Co-op and you have an enticing package. Although I'll likely be finishing off what I already have before I get this.

Hyperblau

12-04-2010, 02:53 PM

Why did you tell me this?

I needed to share the hurt.

Tonez

12-04-2010, 02:56 PM

Seems there may be a seperate campaign for co-op.

Awesome. I'm back on board.

aubergine

12-04-2010, 04:40 PM

I've not tried a Splinter Cell game (I instantly hated MGS Twin Snakes so never tried SC) but I guess I've little excuse not to try the demo!

Queenie

12-04-2010, 05:15 PM

metal gear solid is very, very different to splinter cell.

That said, I've only played the first two (to death, mind you) but only because I couldn't find chaos theory for the gamecube anywhere.

cube_punk

12-04-2010, 10:11 PM

The only thing that worries me about this is the 5 hour campaign mode. Besides that, hanging out for it.

Cian

12-04-2010, 10:49 PM

The only thing that worries me about this is the 5 hour campaign mode. Besides that, hanging out for it.

Any chance of GAME breaking the street date?

To be fair, it's been delayed for the best part of three years...what difference does two days make?

cube_punk

12-04-2010, 11:02 PM

Any chance of GAME breaking the street date?

To be fair, it's been delayed for the best part of three years...what difference does two days make?

As much as I'd love to, nope. If anything does happen I'll pass on the info though :P

Cian

12-04-2010, 11:08 PM

As much as I'd love to, nope. If anything does happen I'll pass on the info though :P

Cheers. Delay after delay after delay and finally this shit is almost here. I just want to play it ASAP :p

Gameboffin

14-04-2010, 04:04 PM

I was lucky enough to get an advance copy and my review is up now: http://www.pixelhunt.com.au/index.php/reviews/360/373-splinter-cell-conviction

Jickle has promised some co-op love, but I should be up for some multi rounds if anyone is organising something.

Creedy

14-04-2010, 05:09 PM

The only thing that worries me about this is the 5 hour campaign mode. Besides that, hanging out for it.

WTF!!??
It's been in development for like 4 years and 5 hours is the best they could come up with?

cube_punk

14-04-2010, 05:22 PM

Yeah I know. All reports are saying the co-op is better than the single player though. Hopefully there's a bit of longevity to it or it might be a quick-trade game.

One thing I can't work out from reviews is if there's any other multiplayer. Co-op campaign and extra co-op missions, but does anyone know if there's any other sort of multi?

AranchineD

14-04-2010, 05:25 PM

Doesn't seem like it.

According to co-op game director Patrick Redding, the stealth in Splinter Cell: Conviction is designed around the new core elements like "Mark and Execute" and "Last Known Position" that have been shown since E3 2009. These things are designed for players to fool and defeat A.I. opponents but not human opponents.

Creedy

14-04-2010, 05:57 PM

I didn't use "Mark and Execute" in the demo, looks so ****ing shit and stupid and should stay out of my Splinter Cell games. So damn stupid that you can't drag bodies around too!

AranchineD

14-04-2010, 06:00 PM

Creedy, just go replay Chaos Theory already

Xanafalgue

14-04-2010, 07:33 PM

Is this out tomorrow?

cube_punk

14-04-2010, 07:57 PM

Sure is!

Xanafalgue

14-04-2010, 08:14 PM

Nice, go go pay day! This release just kind of crept up.

HiredMan

15-04-2010, 10:50 AM

One thing I can't work out from reviews is if there's any other multiplayer. Co-op campaign and extra co-op missions, but does anyone know if there's any other sort of multi?

According to his pixelhunt review posted above, Gameboffin says there are 4 multiplayer modes (not including the four long co-op missions), but they are only for 2 players.

Anyway, this looks pretty good. The mark and execute feature is the thing that worries me the most, seems like a bit of a cop out. I mean, I actually like to do the shooting myself, y'know?

EDIT: and I think you've got the co-op a little wrong Cubey... iirc you cant do the single player missions in co-op, there are 4 co-op missions and thats it, but they are very long (close to the length of the sp campaign).

McChimp

15-04-2010, 11:12 AM

I don't know why people are knocking the M & E feature. I used it quite often in the demo and I've got to say I like it, as I've wanted a few fresher, more action-based techniques in Splinter Cell games for a while. Going from the demo I'd say this is a good evolution for the SC series, as it's been basically the same thing for what, 4 games now? Add the fact that they're hardly re-inventing the wheel and I can't see why a few new mechanics should really bother anyone.

AranchineD

15-04-2010, 11:14 AM

And that's considering you don't have to use M&E at all if you don't want anyway.

McChimp

15-04-2010, 11:17 AM

Exactly. It doesn't seem like the game hinges on the new elements. Admittedly it's a bit more action-based, but yeah, at least there's some flexibility with the play-style.

cube_punk

15-04-2010, 11:45 AM

EDIT: and I think you've got the co-op a little wrong Cubey... iirc you cant do the single player missions in co-op, there are 4 co-op missions and thats it, but they are very long (close to the length of the sp campaign).

I thought there was a whole co-op campaign and then more co-op missions separate? This game is just way too confusing. Guess I'll just wait til I play it ;)

So cut though. Was planning on picking this up at work today and playing it all night, instead I'm mega sick and can't go to work at all. So no Conviction for me until tomorrow night probably. :(

Rambo

15-04-2010, 12:40 PM

Ok Hired, when your ready I just bought it.

Give me a buzz when your ready.

Jickle

15-04-2010, 03:31 PM

This is quite a curious game - the graphics are disappointing and the mechanics are a bit irritating sometimes, but it has a lot of really awesome moments. My favourite bit so far involved pre-marking three guys for execution, before leaping over a counter, hand-to-hand killing one dude to activate an execution, and then proceeding to kill the other three guys in one swift movement. They got a few shots off, but I survived it.

The Iraq level is dumb, though. Dumb as hell.

Cian

15-04-2010, 04:35 PM

Iraq mission should never have been included. This is the worst Splinter Cell game in the series, very disappointing so far.

Xanafalgue

16-04-2010, 06:09 AM

Well I'm enjoying it so far! Graphics are a mixed bag but very detailed.. why the hell didn't they just use the engine used in Assassin's Creed II? Unreal Engine 2.5? Really?

Cian

16-04-2010, 12:04 PM

Sam Fisher goes Mirror's Edge...?

(you'll know what I mean if you keep playing)

HiredMan

16-04-2010, 12:08 PM

Cian are you playing it on PC? From your gamercard it looks like you're playing Double Agent.

Jickle

16-04-2010, 12:15 PM

Hired - I'm on now, co-op?

Spazzallo

16-04-2010, 12:39 PM

Big thanks to cube_punk for giving me the preorder bonuses for this, I've never played a splintercell game before so I'm over the moon that I got one of the originals for free with it :). Thanks mate! Can't wait to try it later.

Jickle

16-04-2010, 01:05 PM

Cian

16-04-2010, 04:22 PM

Cian are you playing it on PC? From your gamercard it looks like you're playing Double Agent.

360. I haven't been on Xbox Live though. No internets.

cube_punk

16-04-2010, 04:45 PM

Got any spares, cube? >_>

I may have one left after the weekend, if I do I'll try to snag it. ;)

No probs as well Spaz, glad I could finally work out who 'that guy' from the forums who shops at my store is :P

I'm about to start this up, thinking of playing it on Realistic for the challenge, seeing as it's a 5 or so hour game. Having not played many other SC games, will it punish me?

Cian

16-04-2010, 05:45 PM

This isn't really a Splinter Cell game so it won't matter. You should be able to get through Realistic just as quickly as anyone else.

Jickle

16-04-2010, 08:23 PM

Definitely play realistic. It's a very good level of challenge without getting ridiculous.

Finished this (or at least the single player campaign) today. Still trying to sort out exactly how I felt about it (there's plenty I miss from the old games), but speaking generally I enjoyed it. I liked...all the other games more though, I think (including the brilliant Xbox version of Double Agent, which nobody played but me, it seems). Maybe the first and Pandora Tomorrow would have aged to the point where this one is better by now, though.

cube_punk

16-04-2010, 10:32 PM

Did anyone else spot the Rabbid statue in the background at the Washington Monument? :p

[edit] on closer inspection it was a balloon

Spazzallo

16-04-2010, 10:59 PM

:D

As someone who has never played Splintercell before I'm absolutely loving this. And I didn't find the Iraq level to be that bad.. it's all over pretty quick :S.

Cian

16-04-2010, 11:22 PM

How long did it take you to finish it Jickle?

Jickle

16-04-2010, 11:26 PM

How long did it take you to finish it Jickle?

I wasn't exactly timing myself, but I'd estimate maybe 6 hours all up? Maybe even less, it felt very short.

cube_punk

17-04-2010, 12:06 AM

I'm trying so damn hard to be stealthy in this game, but I end up just getting spotted and blasting my way out of situations. A shame really, as the first few missions were great fun to hide and get the drop on people.

I'm up to the EMP part by the way.

Cian

17-04-2010, 12:08 AM

I wasn't exactly timing myself, but I'd estimate maybe 6 hours all up? Maybe even less, it felt very short.

I'm up as far as the mission where you need to infiltrate Third Echelon. That's probably only three hours in. I have a horrible feeling the ending will come a lot sooner than I want it to.

So far, there are some decent missions broken up by pure bullshit (ie. Iraq and Chase). It's not a terrible game but it's so far behind the quality of the rest of the series.

I should be back on Xbox Live next week and I'm hoping the co-op story will be based more around Splinter Cell's routes.

McChimp

17-04-2010, 06:25 AM

I can see myself not getting any mileage out of this and maybe even 7-day returning it, which I've never actually done. I like it.......I think......but that's the problem. The action elements for some reason don't seem to work well together with the more traditional SC style play. I'm on the borderline of completely disappointed and waiting to see if there's more that'll redeem it.

borgster101

17-04-2010, 08:33 AM

Hmm it's interesting reading the posts of disapointment here, the IGN review for instance gave the impression that the change in gameplay style is exactly what the series needed, a breath of fresh air.

Guess it depends on the extent you felt the traditional Splinter Cell was getting stale.

Mr.Mew

17-04-2010, 10:54 AM

'Least I know not to purchase it now. I still think Ubisoft should have rolled with the original Conviction/Emo Sam idea, a lot of potential for a change in the series there.

Xanafalgue

17-04-2010, 12:31 PM

I wasn't exactly timing myself, but I'd estimate maybe 6 hours all up? Maybe even less, it felt very short.

Wow... ****ing atrocious.

cube_punk

17-04-2010, 12:36 PM

Infiltration mode is quite cool, I'm giving it a go now. Now THIS is stealthy.

Jickle

17-04-2010, 01:26 PM

Wow... ****ing atrocious.

There's more to the game than just the campaign. But yeah, a few more hours of campaign gameplay would have been nice.

Cian

17-04-2010, 02:05 PM

I'm coming towards the end now and the missions are improving, but for three years of work...it's still a weak effort.

Has anyone tried the co-op campaign? I won't be able to play it until next week.

AranchineD

17-04-2010, 02:06 PM

To be fair, you should all be blaming those f***s who flooded the internet with THIS NEW SPLINTER CELL LOOKS SHIT when the first previews of Conviction came out.

Cian

17-04-2010, 03:11 PM

I never understood why they scrapped the original concept. It was looking fantastic.

Finished the campaign on realistic, 5-6 hours tops. It's definitely more Bourne than Fisher (even the music is like something composed by John Powell). The scenario at the end was fairly well done but overall, they changed too much.

If you're unsure about buying this, definitely rent it out first.

Jickle

17-04-2010, 04:44 PM

Just played through the first two (of four) co-op missions on realistic. It's definitely better than the single player campaign in pretty much every way.

Petarrgh

20-04-2010, 10:56 AM

I just Finished this on realistic last night. Iv been playing the series since game one and overall i was happy with the single player - i would have preferred a little less 'shoot, duck and cover' and a little more dropping from the ceiling and snapping necks in the dark. but i found it compelling enough to complete it in 3 sessions.

Things i missed - being able to whistle to attract attention and the ability to save at anypoint...when will designers learn to put a checkpoint AFTER a cut scene. i had to watch the 'i used to work here' third echelon cut scene, then slow walk across the lobby three times to get it right.

Im really looking forward to getting into the co-op play. which was one of my favorite features of Chaos theory.

Spazzallo

20-04-2010, 04:08 PM

Your lucky you only saw it 3 times ><. Saw it about 6 or 7.

Finished this today on Medium difficulty. Thought the start of the game was a lot better then the end. That said, the music towards the end of the game was awesome. Looking foward to hit this up with my mate on Friday for some co-op :).

EDIT: Finished the last level again to get another achievement and decided not to skip the credits... it seems like everybody on the planet was involved in making this game but me :(.

Xanafalgue

20-04-2010, 07:12 PM

Am I supposed to just kill everything int he flashback level? I'm finding it hard to sneak around.

grimace06

20-04-2010, 08:35 PM

Am I supposed to just kill everything int he flashback level? I'm finding it hard to sneak around.

If you're referring to the Iraq level - it's pretty much a third person shooter at that point.

So yes, kill everything.

Petarrgh

22-04-2010, 11:49 PM

so you get a achievement if you let the credits role? I tried really hard to sit through it the first time. but I realised I wanted to live my life.

Your lucky you only saw it 3 times ><. Saw it about 6 or 7.

Finished this today on Medium difficulty. Thought the start of the game was a lot better then the end. That said, the music towards the end of the game was awesome. Looking foward to hit this up with my mate on Friday for some co-op :).

EDIT: Finished the last level again to get another achievement and decided not to skip the credits... it seems like everybody on the planet was involved in making this game but me :(.

Xanafalgue

22-04-2010, 11:55 PM

If you're referring to the Iraq level - it's pretty much a third person shooter at that point.

So yes, kill everything.

Yeah, just ended up running and gunning.. ridiculous :D

Xanafalgue

22-04-2010, 11:56 PM

The level after it was really fun. Too short though, but its probably the original concept Ubisoft had in mind.. makes me wish they would have stuck with it.

Spazzallo

23-04-2010, 01:09 AM

so you get a achievement if you let the credits role? I tried really hard to sit through it the first time. but I realised I wanted to live my life.

You don't. Don't put yourself through it :(.

Dunkurtin

23-04-2010, 12:47 PM

Can anyone tell me whether i'd be better off getting this on PC or Xbox? Played the others on Xbox but if PC controls are good i might go with that.

McChimp

23-04-2010, 02:21 PM

Depends if you want to deal with Ubisoft's bulls**t DRM or not. I don't have the greatest confidence in their PC output right now.

Lazlow

23-04-2010, 02:32 PM

Seconded. Ubisofts bullshit DRM is enough reason alone to avoid the PC version like the plague.

McChimp

23-04-2010, 02:36 PM

It's amazing how many people I've really, really tried to stop from buying new Ubisoft releases just on the pure fact that this new DRM seems to be built around shafting the consumer (especially in Aus.), yet they still buy them, shrugging their shoulders and giving me a "I'm sure my 'net will handle it fine". Within the next week? They're calling/ dropping in and giving us the "you didn't tell me this piece of s**t was faulty!!" and trying to get their money back.

Dunkurtin

23-04-2010, 02:38 PM

Xbox it is then.

Petarrgh

27-04-2010, 01:32 PM

has anyone had any 'corrupt save' file errors?

I played this one for the first time split screen over the weekend. then last night fired up my single player campaign - got the corrupt save file error - then went to select mission and all my missions were gone.

weak.

similar thing happened to my Halo 3 data after a system link match.

any insight?