The Official PS3 Thread: ApocalyPS3 2 - The Hackening

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Surprised there's not one already unless I've somehow looked past it

Anyway with the constant rumours surrounding the apparent slim PS3 and the photos that are now surfacing including german's Amazon website. I'm still hoping that the photos shown are NOT the final product because it looks hideous, way too similar to the slim PS2 as well aside from the shape - there doesn't seem to be any gloss either.

What do you think about it?

[Jay]

Looks far too ugly to be real, though I am sure such a product exists, just not in that shape. I hear they're reintroducing backwards compatibility too.

[Nic Xtreme]

If they reintroduce backwards compatibility my current PS3 will be gone, I'm buying a new one <3

[Jay]

I have the 60gb launch model so it doesn't really matter for me, but at least I don't have to buy the ugly version (if that's what it does indeed look like). :p

[Stevorooni]

I'd get all uppity about them releasing a better version after I got mine, but my PS3 came free with my TV and I still have my PS2 lying around so I just have the inconvenience of having to use a different console when I want to play PS2 games.

[SOX]

What's the bet they charge more for the new version? ala PSP Go

[Stevorooni]

Well supposedly PS3s are 70% cheaper to make than they were initially so hopefully Sony will be able to squeeze in a price reduction to help PS3 sales along


The fake slim photos do look awful. I reckon it's the actual shape of the console but it's been pieced together from those dodgy phone camera shots of the plastic shells without any shiny film on it. So I think it will look similar to the fake pic, but shiny!

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If the new model was 70% cheaper to buy (haha, yeah right!) with support of PS2 games I'd buy it at the drop of a hat. Plus, my PS3's bluray player is broken (although I need Region A, not Region B!)

[Azzaman]

What's the bet they charge more for the new version? ala PSP Go

I would hope they've learnt their lesson now.

[Starscream]

When will the region free Blu-ray player ever be released? :(

Back to PS3 talk.

Pricing will be very interesting on release day.

[JONO RANDOM H3RO]

Pricing will be very interesting on release day.

Probably be the same price. Unless they go the PSP Go route and raise the price. If Backwards compatibility is re introduced i'll most certainly buy one and sell my current 40gb.

[Ashmaran]

You can guarantee that there's a new cheaper model coming in time for Christmas, what with all the rumours and stock levels drying up. Not to mention the '70% cheaper to produce' and Sony 'buying PS3 making components in record quanities'.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

I like the look of the slim (judging by what we have seen), but I think that the current ps3 is probably the ugliest console in console history and would gladly take almost any design over it.

[freeradical]

So, the question now is does one sell the phat that one has (if there is a 'lack' of supply, they may fetch a reasonable price on ebay?).
I'm still predicting a $50au price drop if we get a slim.

[Xanafalgue]

I like the look of the slim (judging by what we have seen), but I think that the current ps3 is probably the ugliest console in console history and would gladly take almost any design over it.

Really? I don't mind it. Reminds my of a smooth Master System I :D The Slim mockups floating around look atrocious (I'd be surprised if they weren't fan-made). I think they'd sell more slims if they released it alongside GoWIII and FFXIII.

[Stevorooni]

They'll probably launch the PS3 Slim with the PSP Go! as some new evil phase of their console life cycle

[StorminNorman]

but I think that the current ps3 is probably the ugliest console in console history and would gladly take almost any design over it.

Even the original Famicom?

Hell, even the original XBox?

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

There's just something about that crappy bit of silver plastic that makes it look like a cheap toy as opposed to the most expensive console I've ever purchased.

[dimorphic]

They'll probably launch the PS3 Slim with the PSP Go! as some new evil phase of their console life cycle

10 more years!

[klee123]

I dunno in terms of looks for me it goes like this:

Wii > PS3 >>>>>>>>360. The 360 just looks cheap.


According to a few European retailers, it looks like the price of the PS3 slim is confirmed to be around 300 Euro for Europe. Going by that, the US price and the Japanese price should be 300USD and 29800 yen respectively.

For AU, I'm hoping it'll be around $499AUD, which would be quite sweet.

[SOX]

If I remember correctly, I got my 360 for $500 and didn't have any buyers remorse.
So going by that logic I would happily pick up a PS3 for $500.

[AranchineD]

Hmm, $500 is tempting even to me (assuming the new model would have all the updates and such that have come out for the console so far)

[klee123]

It'll definitely won't have PS2 BC, but software emulation is a possibility. Recently, Sony filed a patent for emulation of the Graphics Synthesizer for PS3 use, so it's a good sign.

[consoul]

Oops! Kmart.com (http://kmart.com) have jumped the gun. Nice front page banner.

Only five hours until it's officially announced.

[klee123]

The 299USD price tag of the system just practically confirms the Australian pricing to be at around 499AUD.

It should be a 120GB model too.

[Creedy]

Software emulation or no buy!!!!!!!!!!!!

**** you sony!!!!!!!!!!!!

[klee123]

Keep on praying creedy.

[consoul]

Kmart site has been updated again:
PS3 Slim - 120GB HDD - USD$299 - 24th August - next Monday!

[Xanafalgue]

Cool. I wonder how desperate this will make MS. Price-wars FTW!

[JubeiSaotome]

Wasn't there some news a while back about Sony being able to do emotion engine perfectly via software now?

[Shorty]

I remember seeing articles saying that they were working on it and they had patented it, but none saying that they had perfected it. Companies patent for all kinds of stuff that they may not make into products later on.

[consoul]

Emotion Engine emulation on Cell isn't a problem. Indeed that's what the original BC PAL PS3s do (they don't have an EE chip). GS emulation is the missing piece.

[AranchineD]

Cool. I wonder how desperate this will make MS. Price-wars FTW!

Microsoft raising the price of their consoles, sure seems desperate to me. >_>

[Starscream]

If the PS3 slim has multi-voltage power supply, I'm importing one. ;)

[consoul]

I'd say that's a given. PS3s have been multi-voltage from day one.

[Shorty]

I believe Kaz Hiari has just officially confirmed the PS3 Slim (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/18/sony-announces-new-slimmer-ps3-coming-first-week-of-sept/).

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/224/6215296_blog017.jpg http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/224/6215296_blog016.jpg

Same features, 120gb, 33% smaller, 36% lighter, uses 34% less power, US$299, first week of September.

Fat PS3 will be same price starting tomorrow.

[Bronze]

Functionally inferior to my launch 60GB. Think I'll pass.

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Amazingly, I kinda like it since it looks better than the leaked photos I saw & seems much less wider. Very unfortunate that its not backwards compatible though but the price would be sort of tempting if it turned into a realistic AU$400-450

My bluray drive in the PS3 is dead but I really need a Region A player for my living room

[Stevorooni]

I am shocked, I never saw this coming.

I think it looks cheap. But it doesn't bother me, my olde version suits me fine.

I also reckon it will be $500 is Australia

EDIT 20: I also don't see a slot for swapping out the hard drive

[banjoeskimo]

If I remember correctly there were rumblings a few months back (based on patent filings) that Sony is developing a software based backwards compatibility solution for the PS3. Whether it shows up via firmware update, or as a paid download on PSN remains to be seen, but in any case it looks like something that's on the horizon.

As for the slim, I think it's a nice unit. Unfortunate that it's not as feature complete as older PS3s, but still, all the essentials are there and to be honest the features they've cut I've never used. Mostly I'm just thankful that it's down in price.

Can't believe the 360 Elite and PS3 are now only $50 more than the Wii in the US. Pretty sure Wii owners are just paying an idiot tax at this point.

[Sweating Bullets]

I also reckon it will be $500 is Australia


But after the conversion it looks like it should be $400 or so.
This is extremely tempting.....

[sausage]

Sweet Mary and Joseph, I want one.

[HiredMan]

Software emulation or no buy!!!!!!!!!!!!

**** you sony!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shit, I'm inclined to agree, although if the price is under $500 AUD, I'll probably cave anyways. PS3 finally looking attractive (price wise, that is) yay! :D

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But after the conversion it looks like it should be $400 or so.
This is extremely tempting.....

$300 USD is around $362 AUD atm, but we're gonna get shafted for sure. Look at the 300 Euro price for Europe, thats over $400 USD, so for the Europeans its still more than the Americans were paying before the price cut (and Europe is Sony's biggest market....).

I'm gonna hazzard a guess at $529.95 AUD RRP.

[StorminNorman]

$499.95. (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/08/all-ps3s-to-be-under-500-in-australia-from-august-24/)

It's a really nice-looking unit, but the lack of PS2 compatibility makes it a no-buy for me. I was really hanging out for that to be put back in with this revision.

[Citizen Erased]

Im sticking with my PS3 Fat. Until it breaks.

[Zzz]

I think it looks cheap. But it doesn't bother me, my olde version suits me fine.

I agree, I prefer the look of the old PS3. I think it's the power and eject buttons that bother me. They look tacky.

EDIT 20: I also don't see a slot for swapping out the hard drive

I'm pretty sure I read that it's under a cover somewhere, but for the life of me I can't find where I read that.

I'm actually quite surprised that there's no ethernet plug. Is there any mention of an adapter? I would have thought that forcing wireless (which is slower that cabled and requires additional harware) is a poor choice, especially given that the plug wouldn't cost that much.

I suppose it goes to show just how much Sony are trimming to keep this thing in (or closer to) the black.

[SOX]

Sold! (assuming they aren't sold out Sept 3)

[HiredMan]

$499.95. (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/08/all-ps3s-to-be-under-500-in-australia-from-august-24/)

It's a really nice-looking unit, but the lack of PS2 compatibility makes it a no-buy for me. I was really hanging out for that to be put back in with this revision.

Has lack of BC been confirmed? Seeing as $499.95 is RRP, you could expect JB and others to sell it for around $480..... if it had BC it would be a definite buy, but without it I'm still not quite sold. Maybe if they bundle in a good game I might be swayed.....

[Sweating Bullets]

$400 would have been freaking unreal. But now that it's $500... makes me wonder....

[StorminNorman]

Has lack of BC been confirmed?

I'm just working on the principle that Kotaku said "it has all the same features as the current model", and also the fact no one's mentioned PS2 BC in it yet.

Could be wrong. Hopefully am wrong, in fact.

[Blob]

I'm just working on the principle that Kotaku said "it has all the same features as the current model", and also the fact no one's mentioned PS2 BC in it yet.

Could be wrong. Hopefully am wrong, in fact.

Apparently sony has stated its definately out and not on the cards fullstop.
Shame because the PS3 on its own still doesnt have enough to entice me but there are many PS2 games I would like to play. I know i could get an old PS2 but there are a few PS3 games worth getting and id much rather a brand new unit that I know hasnt been dropped multiple times etc.

[SOX]

Pretty sure you can still get brand new PS2's

[banjoeskimo]

I'm actually quite surprised that there's no ethernet plug. Is there any mention of an adapter? I would have thought that forcing wireless (which is slower that cabled and requires additional harware) is a poor choice, especially given that the plug wouldn't cost that much.

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/101/1015196/gc-2009-playstation-3-slim-impressions-20090818040046320_640w.jpg

It doesn't come with an ethernet cable. You can still connect either wireless or wired though, just the same as all the old PS3s.

[HiredMan]

Could be wrong. Hopefully am wrong, in fact.

Yeah blob is right as the PS UK site confirms. (http://uk.playstation.com/games-media/news/articles/detail/item229653/Entertainment-on-PS3-has-a-new-look/) :(

Note: This product is not compatible with PlayStation 2 games.

Quite bummed.....

[Blob]

Pretty sure you can still get brand new PS2's

I know but thats still $200. Its just a convinience thing really to have the option for potential PS3 games and not have to pay an extra $200 on top of the $500 (Granted i suspect it will be cheaper in shops than that).

[Zzz]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/101/1015196/gc-2009-playstation-3-slim-impressions-20090818040046320_640w.jpg

It doesn't come with an ethernet cable. You can still connect either wireless or wired though, just the same as all the old PS3s.

OK, that makes sense then. I was trying to work out why no-one was mentioning it. I knew that not having my morning coffee was going to end badly.

[casual_pedestrian]

I like how the ps3 slim is more symmetrical, but I liked the spiderman font and shiny finish. Overall though, the new look is quite good. Shame about the lack of ps2 compatibility, but it's not that big an issue for me (I very rarely pull out my ps2 games anymore).

But I don't think I'll be buying one because I can't see a slot to remove the HDD, which was something that I was keen to do when I eventually bought a ps3.

[SOX]

Could the bit on the bottom right of the picture be removable maybe for the HDD?

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2009/08/ps3-slim-04.jpg

[JubeiSaotome]

Here's to more PSN friends and PS3 online gaming taking off.

[Zzz]

But I don't think I'll be buying one because I can't see a slot to remove the HDD, which was something that I was keen to do when I eventually bought a ps3.

I knew I saw it somewhere. The HDD is upgradable, Engaget has an unboxing (http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/18/playstation-3-slim-unboxing-and-hands-on/). The removable cover is on the front, as SOX points out.

[JubeiSaotome]

In before HDD trading thread for old PS3 owners.

[Azzaman]

We need to organise ps3 game nights. Whenever I jump online it's quite dead.

[JubeiSaotome]

Should start with fat princess some time.

[SOX]

Pretty amped about this, I get paid next week (if not the Wednesday before it comes out) so I'll definitely pick one up (assuming they don't sell out that is). It's pretty good timing as someone has obviously moved in near me and was generous enough to share their internets (my internet sucks balls for playing online) so I will be able to go online a lot more - as opposed to the sporadic Xbox Live usage.

[Starscream]

I'd say that's a given. PS3s have been multi-voltage from day one.
I'd assume this is the case until it's proven otherwise :(.

[aubergine]

This PS3 looks far less repulsive than the current one.

[casual_pedestrian]

I knew I saw it somewhere. The HDD is upgradable, Engaget has an unboxing (http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/18/playstation-3-slim-unboxing-and-hands-on/). The removable cover is on the front, as SOX points out.

sssssssssssoold. thanks for pointing that out guys.

[Blue]

Could the bit on the bottom right of the picture be removable maybe for the HDD?

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2009/08/ps3-slim-04.jpgWow.

This thing is ugly. 80's VCR ugly. Cheap Mexican Mega Drive ugly.

I may buy one soon. Although I'm still having trouble justifying it, because I only want Wipeout HD/Fury and MGS4. $450 with both would be nice …

[aubergine]

It's still much larger than I expected too (http://www.engadget.com/photos/ps3-slim-vs-ps3-original-vs-xbox-360-fight/2217132/), literally just "slimmer" than the PS3 (unlike the PS2 slim which was smaller in every way.)

[SOX]

Haha I already have a copy of Metal Gear Solid 4 waiting from like months ago when I picked it up cheap!

Wipeout HD + Linger in the Shadows would be two other purchases. Not sure about what else though - maybe Resistance 2

EDIT: Just checked out that link of aub's, and its heaps bigger than I was thinking it was!

[aubergine]

This is probably a better comparison pic (http://www.engadget.com/photos/ps3-slim-vs-ps3-original-vs-xbox-360-fight/2217131/).

[Bronze]

Wow. It's still a beefcake. I was expecting smaller than that for some reason.

Still think the original looks much better.

[freeradical]

I'd assume this is the case until it's proven otherwise :(.

Picture 19 of the Engadget unpacking shows a 120v power supply. Is that right??

http://www.engadget.com/photos/playstation-3-slim-unboxing-and-hands-on/2216851/

[Blue]

I don't know, I actually think the size is fine. It really is a fair bit slimmer than the original, and the size is now at least as small as the 360. People just expected more based on the tiny PS2 slim.

I'm still struggling to think of anything else I'd buy. Killzone 2 mayb... Nah.

[Bronze]

I didn't bother bringing my PS3 with my to Japan because there was nothing I really wanted to play on the horizon. Will check out InFamous and Uncharted 2 when I move back to Australia in January, but besides that... what is there?

[Shorty]

Kotaku reckons there might be a 250Gb slim (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/08/is-there-a-250gb-ps3-slim-as-well/) in the works, too.

[Stevorooni]

Maybe they'll bring out the PS3 Even Slimmer in a few years

[Tonez]

Maybe they'll bring out the PS3 Even Slimmer in a few years

The PS3 Jenny Craig Edition

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Damn, I was hoping it'd be closer to half the length, like maybe halfway past that 'Memory Unit A' slot on the 360 would've been good

[Creedy]

Kotaku reckons there might be a 250Gb slim (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/08/is-there-a-250gb-ps3-slim-as-well/) in the works, too.

Who cares, you can chuck any sized HDD in there anyway ...... or can you not upgrade the slims???

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AU$499, confirmed by EB at the start of next month

[Blue]

I'd try InFamous, but … It's really just another open-world game. I'm sick of them. I'm still considering picking up a really cheap copy of Crackdown, because it's got a bit of personality, and everyone said it was good. Is it still worth picking up? I got Assassin's Creed cheap recently, that was a bit of fun, but I'm hoping the sequel reaches the series' potential. Anyway, the InFamous/Prototype double whammy just seems like a couple of run-of-the-mill superhero games that we've been seeing since Spiderman 2, but without any personality. The characters seem bland as ****. Anyway, open-world games need to have something special.

Uncharted doesn't grab me … Resistance 2 and Killzone 2? Just more FPSs. I'll be happy with Perfect Dark on XBL. Gran Turismo (eventually)? Nah … I'm on the Forza bandwagon now.

It amazes me how the PS2 consumed my gaming life, and my Xbox was shunned entirely (I won it in a competition), but now the 360 has almost everything I need, and I can't even justify the Sony console. Tekken? 360. Final Fantasy? 360.

And having said all of that, I've hardly touched my 360 all year, aside from Street Fighter IV. Once I've played through MGS4 several times, and played Wipeout to death, it's just going to sit there collecting dust. Blu-ray doesn't interest me; I'm happy watching movies on YouTube for God's sake …

No. No PS3 for me. There's so much more I need or want. And there's so little about the PS3 that I need. It's not even sexy.

[Shorty]

Who cares, you can chuck any sized HDD in there anyway ...... or can you not upgrade the slims???

No, they're upgradeable just like the normal ones. It's just a different bundled hard drive size, obviously.

[Stevorooni]

I'd try InFamous, but … It's really just another open-world game. I'm sick of them. I'm still considering picking up a really cheap copy of Crackdown, because it's got a bit of personality, and everyone said it was good. Is it still worth picking up? I got Assassin's Creed cheap recently, that was a bit of fun, but I'm hoping the sequel reaches the series' potential. Anyway, the InFamous/Prototype double whammy just seems like a couple of run-of-the-mill superhero games that we've been seeing since Spiderman 2, but without any personality. The characters seem bland as ****. Anyway, open-world games need to have something special.

Uncharted doesn't grab me … Resistance 2 and Killzone 2? Just more FPSs. I'll be happy with Perfect Dark on XBL. Gran Turismo (eventually)? Nah … I'm on the Forza bandwagon now.

It amazes me how the PS2 consumed my gaming life, and my Xbox was shunned entirely (I won it in a competition), but now the 360 has almost everything I need, and I can't even justify the Sony console. Tekken? 360. Final Fantasy? 360.

And having said all of that, I've hardly touched my 360 all year, aside from Street Fighter IV. Once I've played through MGS4 several times, and played Wipeout to death, it's just going to sit there collecting dust. Blu-ray doesn't interest me; I'm happy watching movies on YouTube for God's sake …

No. No PS3 for me. There's so much more I need or want. And there's so little about the PS3 that I need. It's not even sexy.

I probably wouldn't have a PS3 right now if mine didn't come free with my TV >_>

I was always going to wait until they were around $400 as I had my 360 which gave me access to enough games.

I don't regret having one and it's certainly got quite a few games I like, but you only really need one of the major consoles to get by (Not counting the Wii as a major console)

[Cian]

The new model is incredibly unattractive to look at. I'll take my shiny beast over that matte finish any day.

[borgster101]

It's basically just a cosemtic change though :(

Hard drive size is good, but of course you can upgrade that on PS3 anyway.

Good news for those that dont have a PS3, good time to dive in :)

[Adios]

I'd try InFamous, but … It's really just another open-world game. I'm sick of them.

Oooh boy!

An engaging plot with a fantastic ending, characters that you care about and fun super powers that can be quite distinct depending on which Karmic path you take proves otherwise. Did I mention that exploring the city and clambering around on rooftops, grinding across rails and taking massive leaps across huge gaps is actually enjoyable, unlike Assassin's Creed?

Infamous is everything that Spiderman 2 wished it could be and it's a damn fun game. Certainly the most fun I've had with a game this year.

Just as an aside, I'm the complete opposite in terms of which console I play more. I can't find any reason to switch on my 360 nowadays.

[Watchers]

Looks like crap, no BC and Australia gets completely screwed on price AGAIN. Until they bundle GoW3 in with the console at the same price or less, no dice.

[JubeiSaotome]

I dunno, Prototype and Infamous came out stupidly at the same time. Cancelled each other out.

[Slippery]

If you're over open world games avoid inFamous, it's good (a lot better then Prototype imo) but it doesn't break the mould in any major way.

[freeradical]

Hard drive swap in PS3 Slim

http://www.engadget.com/photos/playstation-3-slim-unboxing-and-hands-on/2216912/

http://www.engadget.com/photos/playstation-3-slim-unboxing-and-hands-on/2216913/

Note: i'm a 'tard and don't know how to actually post the pics

[klee123]

Definitely gonna import one from the states, since my PSone collection is mainly US and I prefer to have a region A BD player.

I'll just give my AU 80GB phat to my folks.

[consoul]

Picture 19 of the Engadget unpacking shows a 120v power supply. Is that right??

http://www.engadget.com/photos/playstation-3-slim-unboxing-and-hands-on/2216851/That is what the label says. Of course, that's what the label says on my day one Japanese launch PS3 too, and I jammed that straight into 240 volts. Three years on, it's still working perfectly. What the label on the case says and what the internal PSU is rated for are not necessarily the same. Universal PSUs (100-250V 50-60Hz) are pretty standard these days.

[Fenrir]

The Slim seems a bit more attractive than the original, but they're both ****ing ugly in my books.

[Starscream]

That is what the label says. Of course, that's what the label says on my day one Japanese launch PS3 too, and I jammed that straight into 240 volts. Three years on, it's still working perfectly. What the label on the case says and what the internal PSU is rated for are not necessarily the same. Universal PSUs (100-250V 50-60Hz) are pretty standard these days.
When someone busts open a PS3 slim and shows some concrete proof that it is a universal PSU (like you did when I asked about the original PS3 having a universal PSU), then I will import.

[Blue]

If you're over open world games avoid inFamous, it's good (a lot better then Prototype imo) but it doesn't break the mould in any major way.This.

I didn't even get to the third island of GTA4 before I got fed up with it.

[banjoeskimo]

I'd try InFamous, but … It's really just another open-world game. I'm sick of them. I'm still considering picking up a really cheap copy of Crackdown, because it's got a bit of personality, and everyone said it was good. Is it still worth picking up? I got Assassin's Creed cheap recently, that was a bit of fun, but I'm hoping the sequel reaches the series' potential. Anyway, the InFamous/Prototype double whammy just seems like a couple of run-of-the-mill superhero games that we've been seeing since Spiderman 2, but without any personality. The characters seem bland as ****. Anyway, open-world games need to have something special.

Uncharted doesn't grab me … Resistance 2 and Killzone 2? Just more FPSs. I'll be happy with Perfect Dark on XBL. Gran Turismo (eventually)? Nah … I'm on the Forza bandwagon now.

It amazes me how the PS2 consumed my gaming life, and my Xbox was shunned entirely (I won it in a competition), but now the 360 has almost everything I need, and I can't even justify the Sony console. Tekken? 360. Final Fantasy? 360.

And having said all of that, I've hardly touched my 360 all year, aside from Street Fighter IV. Once I've played through MGS4 several times, and played Wipeout to death, it's just going to sit there collecting dust. Blu-ray doesn't interest me; I'm happy watching movies on YouTube for God's sake …

No. No PS3 for me. There's so much more I need or want. And there's so little about the PS3 that I need. It's not even sexy.

The PS3's a harder purchase to justify if you've already got a 360, but as a multi console owner I've been pleasantly surprised at how much use I've gotten out of it, I certainly use it a lot more than the Wii. If you're without a blu-ray player, it's a decent purchase. Pretty much the only other exclusives I can think of that are worth trying would be...

-God of War
-Ratchet & Clank
-Valkyria Chronicles
-PSN exclusives (PixelJunk series, Fat Princess, Flower, flOw and the like)

Plus if you're into JRPGs the PS3 tends to get the 360 ones very late but with additional features (Tales of Vesperia and Eternal Sonata spring to mind), but yeah, if nothing there gets your fancy it's probably not worth picking up just yet.

[Blue]

The PS3's a harder purchase to justify if you've already got a 360, but as a multi console owner I've been pleasantly surprised at how much use I've gotten out of it, I certainly use it a lot more than the Wii. If you're without a blu-ray player, it's a decent purchase. Pretty much the only other exclusives I can think of that are worth trying would be...

-God of War
-Ratchet & Clank
-Valkyria Chronicles
-PSN exclusives (PixelJunk series, Fat Princess, Flower, flOw and the like)

Plus if you're into JRPGs the PS3 tends to get the 360 ones very late but with additional features (Tales of Vesperia and Eternal Sonata spring to mind), but yeah, if nothing there gets your fancy it's probably not worth picking up just yet.As I said, Blu-ray doesn't interest me at all. I don't buy DVDs very often, let alone pay for over-priced Blu-ray discs. It's not important to me at all; If I want to see a movie, I'll watch it on YouTube.

God of War: I've never understood the hype. Played it, it's just another beat 'em up, except that I find the character design uninspired. DMC is the only modern beat 'em up I play.

R&C: Never saw the supposed genius here, either. It's always struck me as a run-of-the-mill platformer/shooter, which I've grown out of. Again, the only platform game I've played in the last few years has been Galaxy.

Valkyria Chronicles looks okay, but I wouldn't rush out and buy it. Basically another Fire Emblem?

PixelJunk and Fat Princess don't appeal to me at all, and Flower and flOw are just diversions.

Come to think of it, I've only bought one 360 or Wii game all year, actually. SFIV. As far as games on the horizon … FFXIII and Forza 3 are the only games I'm really waiting for, I think. Oh, and Beatles: Rock Band.

I guess we'll see how the Ico/SotC follow-up turns out. That could be a factor.

[banjoeskimo]

YouTube? I thought you were a photographer, Blue, shame on you. Where's your hard-on for image quality? :p

Valkyria Chronicles is "like Fire Emblem" in genre name only. In reality, it's a very different experience. It's turn based, yes, but you can go anywhere on the map and there's much more real-time skill involved than simply selecting the right weapon and the right placement. It's probably just better to show you a quick YouTube vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDmFm8C33uU) of a level from the game.

Anyway, sounds like it's probably not a good investment for you. But while I've got the opportunity I'll say this; DMC f---ing sucks. It's outdated, overhyped, and the camera is terrible.

... sorry, I had to, I couldn't stand DMC4.

[JubeiSaotome]

I have DMC4, I've played it twice. Bought it for 40$ because I kept seeing some American Phantasy Star Universe friends playing it straight for a month. But isn't DMC4 on both consoles?

[HiredMan]

But isn't DMC4 on both consoles?

I think that was Blue's point: he likes DMC for his action/beatemups and he can play it on 360. Personally I love GoW and hate DMC.... GoW3 and Last Guardian may sway me to get a PS3 eventually (when they're released).

I've decided against picking up the sub $500 PS3 yet. I still need more exclusives that interest me (i.e. GoW3 and Last Guardian) to justify the expense. I'd still be paying more than $600 (inluding another HDMI cable and another DS3) with games on top of that price.

If they'd included BC I would have plumbed for one in September (still have Okami and ICO sitting there with about an hours playtime on each, and would like to give SotC and GoW1&2 another spin), but as it stands I reckon I'll wait for a GoW3 or Last Guardian bundle before I take the plunge.

[Stevorooni]

HiredMan I order you to buy the PS3 NOW

[HiredMan]

Yes.... my Master.

Wait... NO!

[Stevorooni]

Ok you don't have to, as long as you keep calling me master

[HiredMan]

What is thy bidding, my Master?

[Fenrir]

If I want to see a movie, I'll watch it on YouTube.
Ah, I didn't know YouTube were doing feature-length films. Geez I'm behind the times.

[Adios]

I just got to Zone 75 in Wipeout HD. Gold Trophy.

I AM SO EXCITED!

[Stevorooni]

Ah, I didn't know YouTube were doing feature-length films. Geez I'm behind the times.

Split up into 12 ten minute chunks rapidly deleted by the copyright holders.

[Fenrir]

Valkyria Chronicles is "like Fire Emblem" in genre name only. In reality, it's a very different experience. It's turn based, yes, but you can go anywhere on the map and there's much more real-time skill involved than simply selecting the right weapon and the right placement. It's probably just better to show you a quick YouTube vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDmFm8C33uU) of a level from the game.
That...is one hell of a weird game.

Split up into 12 ten minute chunks rapidly deleted by the copyright holders.
Ah, I had my suspicions.

[Adios]

That...is one hell of a weird game.

Also one of the best games released for the PS3 (just plain released on any console as well I think) last year :D

[Blue]

YouTube? I thought you were a photographer, Blue, shame on you. Where's your hard-on for image quality? :p

Valkyria Chronicles is "like Fire Emblem" in genre name only. In reality, it's a very different experience. It's turn based, yes, but you can go anywhere on the map and there's much more real-time skill involved than simply selecting the right weapon and the right placement. It's probably just better to show you a quick YouTube vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDmFm8C33uU) of a level from the game.

Anyway, sounds like it's probably not a good investment for you. But while I've got the opportunity I'll say this; DMC f---ing sucks. It's outdated, overhyped, and the camera is terrible.

... sorry, I had to, I couldn't stand DMC4.Yeah, but I dropped film. :p Hey, I adore Raging Bull, and it would be ruined on YouTube, but I don't need that kind of fidelity for the majority of the shit I watch.

Yeah, Valkyria looks good, but it's not hugely my thing, so it's not a system-seller.

DMC4 is shit, no argument from me. I haven't even bothered to finish it. But the basic gameplay throughout the series is much more interesting than GoW, as far as I'm concerned. Forgetting about DMC though, I just found GoW to be fairly average. Beat 'em ups were better in 16-bit, I think. :(

But I desperately want Wipeout. It looks spectacular.

[/backslash]

Slim PS3 Much Quieter than Original with BD

According to early tests, the PS3 generates significantly less noise than the original console when it's operating; not only with games, but also when playing Blu-ray movies. Engadget measured the sound pressure levels of a Slim console and an original one, running the same disc, and got levels of 60 dB for the Slim and 70 dB for the original. Having 10 dBs less is usually perceived to be "half as loud".

As a disclaimer, note that no specifics were given about the test conditions, measuring equipment, or what specific version Engadget's "original" console was. But these initial figures show promise.
Very nice! Sometimes my PS3 gets quite loud (although its still no Jet Fighter 360)

[Watchers]

DMC4 is shit, no argument from me. I haven't even bothered to finish it. But the basic gameplay throughout the series is much more interesting than GoW, as far as I'm concerned. Forgetting about DMC though, I just found GoW to be fairly average. Beat 'em ups were better in 16-bit, I think. :(


The God of War games tend to frustrate and annoy me, but I think it's the 'epicness', for lack of a better word, that makes me keep playing. Massive environments, and massive bosses. That, and Kratos is simply awesome.

Though QTEs need to die in a fire.

[Blue]

The God of War games tend to frustrate and annoy me, but I think it's the 'epicness', for lack of a better word, that makes me keep playing. Massive environments, and massive bosses. That, and Kratos is simply awesome.

Though QTEs need to die in a fire.See, I think Kratos is such a shit character, so that's a barrier there. It's hard to get absorbed in epic battles when you're controlling what appears to be a skinhead English soccer hooligan. :p

[Watchers]

http://www.gamercenteronline.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/kratos.jpg
ZEUS!!

[JubeiSaotome]

I know there is no Backwards Compatibility with the Slim or Firmware 3.0, but can someone just reassure me? A work friend thinks that Sony announced it today.

[Shorty]

I've been following the news pretty closely and Sony has not announced backwards compatibility for the Slim or v3.0.

[Stevorooni]

Very nice! Sometimes my PS3 gets quite loud (although its still no Jet Fighter 360)

I remember on one really hot day my PS3's fan went into super turbo mega mode where it almost started flying around the room.I decided to turn it off when that happened.

[/backslash]

I would've recorded it to youtube first, then turn it off :p

[aubergine]

I've been following the news pretty closely and Sony has not announced backwards compatibility for the Slim or v3.0.

More than that, they actively denounced it.

No PS2 backwards compatibility for you, forget it f***ers.

That's not the exact quote but they definitely said it's just not going to happen. I think their reasoning was along the lines of "well shit, the ps2 is so cheap and, well shit. Play NEW games you losers."

[sausage]

That's a specious argument really since BC in the PS3 might actually re-invigorate the PS2 gaming market.

It also might persuade those intending to buy or upgrade their PS2's into buying a cheap PS3.

[Blue]

I've bought about four PS2 games this year, maybe three, but if I had a PS3 I'd have it in the living room, and I have my PS2 in my bedroom. So basically, if the PS3 had BC, I probably wouldn't use it; I never use my 360's BC capability, but I never had many XBOX games anyway. I can understand the annoyance, though.

[aubergine]

For whatever reason it clearly makes the hardware so much more expensive to manufacture that they don't want to do it. Or Sony make stupid decisions at an upper management level, take your pick.

With all their material on the subject though I wouldn't hold my breath for a BC patch anytime soon, or ever at all. I'm pretty sure their reasoning though, and it isn't that unsound, is that everyone who wants one owns a PS2 already (all 100 billion sold) and they are still available and cheap as chips to buy new. The only people who directly benefit from BC in the PS3 (leaving aside the indirect and possible benefits to Sony you mention) is second hand games retailers.

On that note, leaving out BC may be a nod towards developers. It's a hard line though - developers and publishers want PS3 to have the greatest possible install base and BC would undoubtedly help that install base to grow by removing barriers to current PS2 fans.

[sausage]

I guess my position is if they can do it, they should do it; even if it's in a slightly higher specification model with a minimal increase in price and throw in a few PS2 classics to justify it.

Will infuriate the completists and elitists too... possibly.


I dunno... just seems 'not right' iykwim.

[JubeiSaotome]

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/20/sony-ps2-back-compat-not-returning-to-ps3-ever/

[SOX]

Not an issue cause I still have my PS2

[HiredMan]

Issue for me as my last PS2 broke years ago and I don't want to pay $200 for a new one. Ah well

*waits for good bundle*

[Bronze]

Good thing I still have my 60GB launch model with backward compatibility...

[Stevorooni]

I still have my PS2 too but I'd like it if I could play my PS2 games on my PS3 with upscaled graphics so that they don't look like complete arse on an LCD TV

[/backslash]

My friend was complaining about this last week since he's got a 7.1HD setup, he bought a PS3 a couple of months ago. I don't think he's going to be happy now :p

Slim PS3 Bitstreams Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD

Posted August 21, 2009 03:10 AM by Juan Calonge

PlayStation 3 Without any fanfare or even a passing mention in its official announcement, the upcoming slim PS3 is getting an additional feature, one long requested by those who use the console as a Blu-ray player: it will be capable of bitstreaming DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD to a compatible receiver for it to decode those advanced audio signals.

This has been revealed by Engadget, quoting a story posted on Japanese electronics site AV Watch.

The regular PS3 can't bitstream advanced audio codecs because its HDMI transmitter chip doesn't support it. Therefore, unlike the addition of DTS-HD decoding or BD-Live support, a new firmware cannot add advanced audio bitstreaming to existing consoles.

It has been long argued that there is no difference between decoding an advanced audio signal on the player or on the receiver, provided they both follow the specification. However, many users insisted they wanted to decode in their receivers and were unhappy that the PS3 didn't offer them that option. Now, with the slim PS3, they can choose whether to decode in the console or in the receiver.

[Blue]

lollers

[aubergine]

Good thing I still have my 60GB launch model with backward compatibility...

Course if you'd waited you could buy a 120g PS3, a PS2 and have enough room left on the shelf to display the $300-$400 you'd have saved.

That's if you paid $1000 at launch.

[/backslash]

Pretty sure Bronze got a coupon off me or something for 10% discount

[Bronze]

Yeah, picked it up on launch with Resistance and Motorstorm. Cost me just under $1060 all up, iirc.

[Stevorooni]

Course if you'd waited you could buy a 120g PS3, a PS2 and have enough room left on the shelf to display the $300-$400 you'd have saved.

That's if you paid $1000 at launch.

I always find the waiting argument interesting, because that 'wasted' $300 extra he paid was for 2 and a half extra years of playing the console.

Although you can't quite use that logic for the 360 and Wii. The 360 you paid extra for years of an unreliable console breaking every 6 months and the Wii you paid the same amount at launch as you'd pay now, and the quality of time spent with that console is arguable.

[Munky]

and the Wii you paid the same amount at launch as you'd pay now, and the quality of time spent with that console is arguable.

The quality of the time you're going to spend in the future with the Wii is arguable...

[Stevorooni]

The quality of the time you're going to spend in the future with the Wii is arguable...

Nintendo: We've got a lot of great stuff coming up in the future!

Someone: Like what?

Nintendo: ...okay, we've got nothing.



I'm looking forward to

Mario Galaxy 2
New Super Mario Bros Wii
RE: Darkside Chronicles
Dead Space Extraction
New Zelda game which we know nothing about but I assume it will tick all the Zelda game boxes and I will be satisfied.

[Blue]

I might not even bother with Galaxy 2, as I didn't even bother to try for 120 stars on Galaxy. It'll be more of the same, and while the original was okay, I think I've sort of played enough 3D platformers by this point. I'd love a follow-up to Mario Sunshine, but I think I'm one of a very small group of people who consider that to be the pinnacle of 3D platforming.

NSMB Wii might be good. But then again, it probably won't be as good as SMW, SMB3 or Yoshi's Island. It'll probably be far too easy, like NSMB on DS.

The new Zelda game might be good. I will most likely buy it. But if I hadn't bought my Wii, I'd have a bloody PS3 right now, and I'd be playing Wipeout Fury. Fark.

[Citizen Erased]

Mario Galaxy 2
New Super Mario Bros Wii
RE: Darkside Chronicles
Dead Space Extraction
New Zelda game which we know nothing about but I assume it will tick all the Zelda game boxes and I will be satisfied.

Now with more waggle.

[Stevorooni]

I might not even bother with Galaxy 2, as I didn't even bother to try for 120 stars on Galaxy. It'll be more of the same, and while the original was okay, I think I've sort of played enough 3D platformers by this point. I'd love a follow-up to Mario Sunshine, but I think I'm one of a very small group of people who consider that to be the pinnacle of 3D platforming.


Mario Galaxy was the sort of game I played as much as possible and completed everything, then did it all again as Luigi straight away. I don't really play games obsessively anymore but Mario Galaxy was just one of those games I couldn't put down until I was completely finished.

But chalk me up as a Mario Sunshine lover. That game was superior to Mario 64 in many ways.

[Blue]

Mario Galaxy was the sort of game I played as much as possible and completed everything, then did it all again as Luigi straight away. I don't really play games obsessively anymore but Mario Galaxy was just one of those games I couldn't put down until I was completely finished.

But chalk me up as a Mario Sunshine lover. That game was superior to Mario 64 in many ways.Yeah, I never had that drive for Galaxy. I think I got about 70 stars. I probably got the same amount in Sunshine, but I did that twice.

Hm. I might go and play Sunshine a third time. It may have had a narrower focus (ie. less levels) than 64 or Galaxy, but that helped me enjoy it more, I think. I got to know each of the areas intimately, and can remember them all very fondly. Most of the levels in the other games have sort of run together in my mind.

Anyway, Playstation, etc. :p

[Bronze]

From a nostalgic point of view, I think Super Mario 64 is the better game... But take the nostalgia away, and Sunshine easily surpasses it.

Galaxy was fun, but there was something that didn't feel quite... 'Mario' about it. Maybe it was the lack of normal, flat, 3D worlds. Perhaps it was the lack of Yoshi (soon to be remedied in Galaxy 2). Not sure. It was still a fantastic game, but I wouldn't call it the pinnacle of the 3D Mario series to date.

What? PS3 Thread?

...carry on. >.>

[SOX]

I'm thinking if I can convince my mate to share his PS3 account I won't have to buy any games for a while. Pretty amped, just hope they don't sell out before I get to the stores :/

[aubergine]

Interesting Eurogamer article on Sony vs Microsoft (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/end-of-the-land-grab-article) that just went up.

[Citizen Erased]

If the PS3 slim and the PSP go coming in October dont sell, then we all know who's fault it is.

[Jay]

Yep. Creedy's. :p

[super_deformed]

From a nostalgic point of view, I think Super Mario 64 is the better game... But take the nostalgia away, and Sunshine easily surpasses it. I dunno. To me its like the Super Mario Bros 3 and Super Mario World comparison. Super Mario World has 'more' and is technically superior in every way, but somehow I still rate SMB3 higher. And both those games have a big nostalgia factor.

Sunshine added more , but they added shit I didnt particularly need, want or enjoy.

Unlike movies, game sequels are generally better than the original. I guess cause gaming is so dependent on technology that's always pushing forward.

But I think there are exceptions, even with games that arent story based. Sometimes a sequel / re-imagining doesnt feel 'quite right'. Sometimes the developers misunderstand what made their original title fun.

SMB3 > SMW > New SMB
SM64 > Sunshine
WaveRace 64 > Wave Race BS
Mario Tennis 64 > GCN version and Wii remake
Contra 3 > every contra since
Super Metroid > Every metroid since
R-Type Delta > R-type Final


Oh yeah. PS3. Still got mine. Wanting for Uncharted 2 and Last Guardian. Woohoo. Back on topic!!

[Lazlow]

Might consider getting a PS3 later in the year when that $499 price comes in. That's for the 60GB model correct?

[super_deformed]

Might consider getting a PS3 later in the year when that $499 price comes in. That's for the 60GB model correct? Hey? Wouldnt you get the 120GB Slim ps3?

As far as I know the current fatty PS3s are all 80GB.

[Lazlow]

I was going off some article from July 13... turns out it was Jul 13 2007 >_>

And yeah, it appears its $499 for the Slim, which apparently ships in Aus/NZ today.

I'll hang out for a few months to see if there's any intial technical hiccups.

[super_deformed]

I'll hang out for a few months to see if there's any intial technical hiccups. Fear not XBOX owner.

[Lazlow]

More the fact that the PS2 slim had its fair share of annoyances.

[super_deformed]

More the fact that the PS2 slim had its fair share of annoyances.
fair enough. though id want Uncharted 2 from day one. Dont wait any longer.

[SOX]

One moar week >_<
How has Little Big Planet held up now that the hype has dissipated?

[Manny M]

It really pisses me off that they've removed backward compatibility from the slim. I've been hanging out to buy a PS3 for a while, purely on the basis that I NEED it to be able to play PS2 games. Why? Well I never bought a PS2 back in the day and there are a few key titles that i'd love to get my hands on, but can't justify buying yet another console for (PS2).

Now with the only real game i'm looking forward to being GoW III and every other title going multiplatform these days i'm really in two minds about buying a PS3.

[Lazlow]

With the current situation with BlazBlue means the PS3's lack of region locking is a tempting proposition.

Also, you could probably pick up a second hand PS2 slim for the price of a game these days >_>

[Manny M]

PS3 fighting games are out of the question. Having spent $300 on an arcade stick alone for my 360, there's no way i'm doing the same for my PS3.

No region lock is a good advantage though, I do agree.

[McChimp]

Region free is brilliant! I mean, there's no local release date (if I remember correctly) for Demon's Souls, and I got Rock Band 2 from the U.S. just after I got my PS3. With consoles like the PS3 and DS having great games, some of which don't even reach our shores, I'm REALLY glad there's no lock-out.

As for the backwards-compatibility thing, yeah, it SUCKS! When I bought my PS3, I had a friend that was like "Yeah man! Grab some of those so-called awesome PS2 games! The PS3 can play them!!".......should've done my research, rather than listen to that d**k-wad. Ended up going out and snatching up a PS2 slim (they didn't have the more-reliable 'fatties') from EB for $110, I think it was. Come to think of it, I've got to take that back......f-er fried itself a month ago! lol.

And the games I listed over in the Heavy Rain thread? If you get a PS3 (slim or otherwise), at least HIRE MGS4 and Little Big Planet and give them spin. I took a chance on both of them, and still break 'em out to this day. I've always kind've 'liked' the MGS games, but have never really gone out of my way to sing their praises, but I tells 'yam MGS4 is an absolute winner! Made me a fully-fledged convert to the series!

[Lazlow]

From the Heavy Rain thread...

MGS4, Uncharted, Little Big Planet, INfamous, Ghostbusters

TBH, this list is not very convincing... then again I have odd tastes;

Initial D
Wipeout HD
Afrika
Yakuza 3
Resistance 1/2
Wangan Midnight

Plus the upcoming titles; Heavy Rain, L.A. Noire, Massive Action Game and GT5.

[Manny M]

I used to be into the Metal Gear series... then I got tired of the confusing plot.

Oh Afrika! I forgot about that. Would definitely pick that up.

[Lazlow]

PS3 fighting games are out of the question. Having spent $300 on an arcade stick alone for my 360, there's no way i'm doing the same for my PS3.


True, but the PS3 isn't gimped by an unplayable D-Pad.

[SOX]

From the Heavy Rain thread...



TBH, this list is not very convincing... then again I have odd tastes;

Initial D
Wipeout HD
Afrika
Yakuza 3
Resistance 1/2
Wangan Midnight

Plus the upcoming titles; Heavy Rain, L.A. Noire, Massive Action Game and GT5.
How could you miss The Last Guardian!!

[super_deformed]

One moar week >_<
How has Little Big Planet held up now that the hype has dissipated?
It's still good. Though admittedly I havent created shit.

[Lazlow]

How could you miss The Last Guardian!!

I wasn't really sold on Ico, got sick of it pretty quickly. Nice idea, but the execution didn't gel with me.

SotC I haven't got around to playing yet.

[super_deformed]

SotC I haven't got around to playing yet.
Shadow of the Colossus. That was my Zelda Ocarina of Time for last gen. i.e a game that I'll always cherish.

Oh and I also never finished Ico.

I hope they one day release a HD version of SOTC on PSN.

[SOX]

I loved SotC but Ico is the one I go back to. It's one of the only games I can play beginning to end in a single sitting.

[Blue]

True, but the PS3 isn't gimped by an unplayable D-Pad.But why would you buy it on PS3 if you have an arcade-quality stick for the 360? The PS3 D-Pad is okay, but it's no Mad Catz TE FightStick.

[Lazlow]

So you don't have to wait Q1 2010 to play it.

Then you can always buy it on X360 when it does come, and use the PS3 copy as trade fodder. :D

[Stevorooni]

PS3 fighting games are out of the question. Having spent $300 on an arcade stick alone for my 360, there's no way i'm doing the same for my PS3.

I have that same attitude except swap the consoles around, I only buy fighting games for the PS3.
That was after spending $60 on a PS3 Arcade Stick! (The Fighting Stick 3, a bargain at Gametraders but funnily enough I spotted for $110 at JB the other week)

[borgster101]

Not to de-rail, but out of your list, Uncharted and Infamous do entice. Can't think of much more. We can take this to the PS3 gen thread... I had another whinge there. :P Convince me.
Valkyria Chronicles

[Slippery]

Valkyria Chronicles

Isn't a system seller

[Fenrir]

It really pisses me off that they've removed backward compatibility from the slim. I've been hanging out to buy a PS3 for a while, purely on the basis that I NEED it to be able to play PS2 games. Why? Well I never bought a PS2 back in the day and there are a few key titles that i'd love to get my hands on, but can't justify buying yet another console for (PS2).
I'm sort-of in the same position as you, really - didn't get a PS2, reluctant to get one now, but definitely want to play through the cream of its extensive library.
Whilst I'll probably bite the bullet and get one soonish, I'm hoping that this emulator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCSX2) will become stable and reliable sometime soon, mainly for the major convenience factor involved. Old proprietary hardware tends to burn out, become forgotten, unsupported, cluttersome, etc, whereas you can always keep a binary or source repository of an open-source emulator on file.

[Space_Monkey]

Problem time guys!

I finally got around to connecting up my ps3 up to the net, i managed to get an ID and password with no trouble more or less.

But when it was finished and i'd been sent a conformation email saying all was good, I tried logging in and nothing, all I get is a loading message then "your connection has timed out."

Naturually this is irritating me like crazy, anyone had the same problem, can anyone help?

[/backslash]

Problem time guys!

I finally got around to connecting up my ps3 up to the net, i managed to get an ID and password with no trouble more or less.

But when it was finished and i'd been sent a conformation email saying all was good, I tried logging in and nothing, all I get is a loading message then "your connection has timed out."

Naturually this is irritating me like crazy, anyone had the same problem, can anyone help?
Sounds like you missed something. Did you get the ID via the PS3? Might have to check your internet settings on the PS3 itself, I forgot mine had WEP security so I had to get that info from my modem

[Space_Monkey]

Sounds like you missed something. Did you get the ID via the PS3? Might have to check your internet settings on the PS3 itself, I forgot mine had WEP security so I had to get that info from my modem

That might be it come to think of it....

[Manny M]

True, but the PS3 isn't gimped by an unplayable D-Pad.

You're not seriously trying to compare a D-Pad to the SF4 TE stick are you?

Valkyria Chronicles

Is that the same as Valkyre Profile for the PSP?

[Lazlow]

You're not seriously trying to compare a D-Pad to the SF4 TE stick are you?


Some people prefer pads to sticks (Jubei?).

However, all I'm saying is the PS3 d-pad is infinitely more user friendly for fighters, than the X360 d-pad. So you can get a taste of the game, and learn some characters with a PS3 version, before the X360 version hits.

A lot of X360 users get sticks out of necessity.

[Manny M]

Sure, the d-pad is known to be better on the PS3 controller than the 360 controller... but i've got a top of the line arcade stick for the 360, which renders your point moot ;)

[Lazlow]

Only if you're willing to wait (remember I'm really only referring to BlazBlue).

Which I'm finding hard >_<

Battle Fantasia just didn't really cut it as a wait filler.

[Creedy]

Are people seriously still stuck in 2007? People seriously can't get over the lack of BC?
Amazing.

[SOX]

About this d-pad for fighters talk, if I'm not using my arcade stick I use the thumbstick on the controller as it is behaves more like I'm used to so the whole PS3 d-pad is superior is really a moot point. I'm surprised more people don't use their thumbstick for fighters :/

[freeradical]

Are people seriously still stuck in 2007? People seriously can't get over the lack of BC?
Amazing.

Wish it was 2007, coz then i could walk out the door and buy me a 60g PS3 with BC, knowing that it would be removed in future revisions.

[Lazlow]

About this d-pad for fighters talk, if I'm not using my arcade stick I use the thumbstick on the controller as it is behaves more like I'm used to so the whole PS3 d-pad is superior is really a moot point. I'm surprised more people don't use their thumbstick for fighters :/

Analog stinks. I find digital inputs more consistent.

[Manny M]

Are people seriously still stuck in 2007? People seriously can't get over the lack of BC?
Amazing.

Not all of us having nothing better to do then spend all our time and money at the time on every console and game available.

You're such a close minded ****.

[consoul]

While the whining over lack of BC does get old, I understand completely where it's coming from. It's a feature that many people want, and Sony's response to it has been largely disingenuous. Sony can't credibly take the "PS3 owners don't care about old games" line on one hand and spout "buy these great new PSone releases on PSN" on the other.

Sony's research shows that BC isn't a driving factor influencing purchase intent. That's the long and the short of it. If it were a key factor in determining whether a significant number of people bought the console or not, then you'd see Sony investing the resources to make it happen. That's not how it is though. There's simply no business case to justify the necessary investment in backward compatibility.

If Sony had been honest about that from the get go, I think people would have understood it and gotten over it much sooner.

[Creedy]

Not all of us having nothing better to do then spend all our time and money at the time on every console and game available.

You're such a close minded ****.

How many Xbox games do you play on you X360?
I'd be amazed if you bought an X360 just to play original Xbox games on.

[Blob]

How many Xbox games do you play on you X360?
I'd be amazed if you bought an X360 just to play original Xbox games on.

I bought one with old xbox games in mind.
Currently i have 14 (Granted one doesnt work).

[Shorty]

Does that mean that backwards compatibility is another "last generation feature"? Because that what this is looking like again.

[Creedy]

Who knows, who cares.
But if Manny M's argument is "I won't buy a PS3 because it doesn't have BC and there aren't enough current gen games that interest me", then why doesn't he just bloody buy a cheap as hell PS2 and then buy a PS3 a few years down the line when there are more games that interest him?

I bought one with old xbox games in mind.
Currently i have 14 (Granted one doesnt work).

Why wouldn't you just buy an old Xbox?

[Blob]

Why wouldn't you just buy an old Xbox?

Because I wanted to play 360 games as well.

[Creedy]

Because I wanted to play 360 games as well.

So original Xbox games weren't all you had in mind...

[Shorty]

Who knows, who cares.
But if Manny M's argument is "I won't buy a PS3 because it doesn't have BC and there aren't enough current gen games that interest me", then why doesn't he just bloody buy a cheap as hell PS2 and then buy a PS3 a few years down the line when there are more games that interest him?

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu328/zerosignal/john_stewart_facepalm.jpg

Conversely, why doesn't Sony bloody spend the few extra dollars and put the BC hardware back in or get the lead out and finally put out that all-software emulator?

Charging in with your high-and-mighty attitude (which is rather similar to Sony's regarding putting rumble back in, which they eventually and reluctantly did) isn't helping things, either.

[Blob]

So original Xbox games weren't all you had in mind...

Nope I wanted to play both on one console. Same goes for the PS3 im happy to wait until the BC comes back which I suspect it will when they finally pull the plug on the PS2. At the moment the PS2 is making sony money still so I can understand why they dont want to have BC right now. Earlier on I guess they figured the PS3 was going to take off more.

[StorminNorman]

I swear, if I ever meet Shorty IRL and he looks like anyone other than Jon Stewart, I'm going to be bitterly disappointed.

PS2 BC won't come back until the PS4 hits in 2012 or so.

[Stevorooni]

(which is rather similar to Sony's regarding putting rumble back in, which they eventually and reluctantly did)

Hey man, the COUDN'T FIT rumble into the Sixaxis along with the motion sensing technology. It was impossible, that tilt sensor that everyone loves and is used in every game was just too damn huge, if you tried to fit rumble in as well the controller would have been bigger than the PS3 console itself!

Later they somehow managed to defy the laws of physics and squeeze both in, perhaps using some sort of TARDIS dimensional technology where the controller is bigger on the inside than the outside, and it's just pure coincidence that it was timed with them settling that case with the rumble folks.

[Creedy]

[IMG]Conversely, why doesn't Sony bloody spend the few extra dollars and put the BC hardware back in or get the lead out and finally put out that all-software emulator?

Charging in with your high-and-mighty attitude (which is rather similar to Sony's regarding putting rumble back in, which they eventually and reluctantly did) isn't helping things, either.

Contrary to popular believe, I'm not trying to be an arsehole.
But Manny M is saying there aren't many PS3 games that interest him. If that's the point then why is he looking to buy a PS3? He also wants to play PS2 games, you can buy a PS2 for under $150 can't you?
Not much of an investment to enjoy the PS2 games you have missed out on in the past few years. PS2 games don't look that bad on a PS2 hooked up to an HD panel either.


As for adding BC back into the PS3, we know they won't do that yet since the PS2 still sells really well. A firmware update later on will probably reimplement BC into the PS3, this is obvious since there is a patent in regards to this.

So I say again, if your dying to play PS2 games NOW then the PS2 is on store shelves cheap as chips. There is no reason not to buy one, especially if you aren't interested in any PS3 games.

[Fenrir]

Hmm, my only thoughts on the whole backward-compatibility subject are, what happens next generation? Especially with the likes of Wii's Virtual Console - we decided we wanted to bring back all the classics from the last 6 or so generations of games consoles, but when it's time for this generation of consoles to stand aside, we're pretty much deprecating those last 6 generations all over again. Sure it may be possible that the big three will reimplement the same backwards compatibility on the next line of consoles, and they might even facilitate porting over your digital game purchases, but I'm still reminded of a few XKCD (http://xkcd.com/488/) articles (http://xkcd.com/625/).

I swear, if I ever meet Shorty IRL and he looks like anyone other than Jon Stewart, I'm going to be bitterly disappointed.
My memory of last meeting him is kinda blurry, but you just might be in luck, to some extent.


>_>

[AranchineD]

Contrary to popular believe, I'm not trying to be an arsehole.
But Manny M is saying there aren't many PS3 games that interest him. If that's the point then why is he looking to buy a PS3? He also wants to play PS2 games, you can buy a PS2 for under $150 can't you?
Not much of an investment to enjoy the PS2 games you have missed out on in the past few years. PS2 games don't look that bad on a PS2 hooked up to an HD panel either.

$600 for a PS3 to play five or six PS3 games
$750 for a PS3 to play five or six PS3 games and a PS2 to play dozens of PS2 games
$600 for a PS3 to play five or six PS3 games and dozens of PS2 games


Which option do you think most people (and, as a logical connection, Manny) would like to take?

[Shorty]

Hey man, the COUDN'T FIT rumble into the Sixaxis along with the motion sensing technology. It was impossible, that tilt sensor that everyone loves and is used in every game was just too damn huge, if you tried to fit rumble in as well the controller would have been bigger than the PS3 console itself!

Later they somehow managed to defy the laws of physics and squeeze both in, perhaps using some sort of TARDIS dimensional technology where the controller is bigger on the inside than the outside, and it's just pure coincidence that it was timed with them settling that case with the rumble folks.

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu328/zerosignal/tennant_2.jpg

Approves.

Contrary to popular believe, I'm not trying to be an arsehole.
But Manny M is saying there aren't many PS3 games that interest him. If that's the point then why is he looking to buy a PS3? He also wants to play PS2 games, you can buy a PS2 for under $150 can't you?
Not much of an investment to enjoy the PS2 games you have missed out on in the past few years. PS2 games don't look that bad on a PS2 hooked up to an HD panel either.

As for adding BC back into the PS3, we know they won't do that yet since the PS2 still sells really well. A firmware update later on will probably reimplement BC into the PS3, this is obvious since there is a patent in regards to this.

So I say again, if your dying to play PS2 games NOW then the PS2 is on store shelves cheap as chips. There is no reason not to buy one, especially if you aren't interested in any PS3 games.

Protip: If you're not trying to come across as an "arsehole", then blundering into this thread acting like we're all children for having a legitimate complaint about a perfectly good feature that Sony have taken away doesn't exactly help your cause.

The problem with your entire line of argument is that you're talking out of both sides of your mouth. When it suits you, it's all "BC doesn't matter because it people don't really want it" and "why would you buy a PS3 just to play PS2 games anyway". But when it's pointed out that demand for it does exist and that it might be better for customers to have it built into a PS3 for a few dollars more than making them pay $150 for a seperate PS2, it's all "oh they can just add that in later with a firmware update", like Sony's hiding complete software BC under the counter like a TV chef and they're just looking for a good time to drop it on us.

Pick an argument and stick with it.

[aubergine]

Now that Blu-Rays are crashing in price finally a PS3 is more interesting purchase even to me, Lord Sony-Hate who's never had a Sony console. I can't actually name 5 PS3 games off the top of my head that I'd play and even though there's a bunch of PS2 classics I never played I doubt I'd get around to playing them even if I could - hell I bought Okami on Wii and sold it again because I never got around to booting it up. Just. No. Time.

[Manny M]

How many Xbox games do you play on you X360?
I'd be amazed if you bought an X360 just to play original Xbox games on.

Look at you, all up there on that mule of yours.

Actually, there are a few Xbox games i've brought across to my 360 (SFIII being on i'm thankful for), but I had an Xbox last gen and I played what I wanted to play on it then. But then, this isn't about console x versus console y, regardless of how much you want it to be.

Basically it all comes down to a feature being specifically REMOVED from the newer revision. A feature which, for me, would have been extremely practical and a huge incentive to purchase said revision. Sure, I could just buy an old PS2, but quite frankly, I don't want to purchase yet another piece of hardware just to play a very select handful of games... which is the very same reason why i'm hesitant in buying a PS3 now. On their own, the PS2 and PS3 have a very small number of titles i'm keen to play, and in my mind it's not really enough to justify investing in the hardware to play a few titles... but with both groups of game titles playable on the one console it does justify it.

My reasoning doesn't just factor in cost, it also factors in practicality. And it's not practical to buy an entire console just so I can play about 4 games from the last gen.

[SOX]

Look at you, all up there on that mule of yours.

Actually, there are a few Xbox games i've brought across to my 360 (SFIII being on i'm thankful for), but I had an Xbox last gen and I played what I wanted to play on it then. But then, this isn't about console x versus console y, regardless of how much you want it to be.

Basically it all comes down to a feature being specifically REMOVED from the newer revision. A feature which, for me, would have been extremely practical and a huge incentive to purchase said revision. Sure, I could just buy an old PS2, but quite frankly, I don't want to purchase yet another piece of hardware just to play a very select handful of games... which is the very same reason why i'm hesitant in buying a PS3 now. On their own, the PS2 and PS3 have a very small number of titles i'm keen to play, and in my mind it's not really enough to justify investing in the hardware to play a few titles... but with both groups of game titles playable on the one console it does justify it.

My reasoning doesn't just factor in cost, it also factors in practicality. And it's not practical to buy an entire console just so I can play about 4 games from the last gen.

That works? I gotta pick up a copy <3 Remy

[McChimp]

My reasoning doesn't just factor in cost, it also factors in practicality. And it's not practical to buy an entire console just so I can play about 4 games from the last gen.

That's a more-than-fair call there. I got an Xbox original and PS2 slim within a month of each other because I'd scored some brilliant games for both off Ebay, mistakenly thinking they'd work fine (stuff like Deus Ex: IW on Xbox and Shadow of the Colossus on PS2), but wasn't willing to have them just sitting there, or try flog them off straight away on Ebay.

SO, I bit the bullet and got both consoles reasonably cheap (I think). But yeah, it's completely impractical having an extra two consoles that only get the occasional play, and take-up even MORE space along with the three consoles I've already got (so-much-so that my wife made me move the Xbox and PS2 into our 'junk' room with the old SD TV so we'd have more space for the new PC we got about the same time.

[Stevorooni]

It's strange how many people never had a PS2, lots of people had those things!

I might even fire mine up, I just realised the I bought Ratchet and Clank 1 & 2 ages ago and I haven't even opened the 2nd one.

[Creedy]

stuff

That's great to know but why do you have to keep on dragging the topic out of the closet?
If you can't justify the PS2's cheap price for a few select games then that's your problem, so live with it and deal with it.

I bought a Gamecube just for Resident Evil 4, I bought an X360 just for Gears of War and Lost Planet. To me the prices were justified because the gaming experiences were amazing.

I didn't want to pay full price for a Dreamcast just to play Sonic Adventure so I waited until I could buy one cheap second hand. I didn't sit on forums complaining the console was to expensive for a select few games.

If you have a good enough PC you could just look into emulation to play some games. Hook your PC up to your LCD/plasma panel and use an X360 controller. Bob's your uncle.

[Lazlow]

Nothing you're saying makes Manny's point any less valid.

[Fenrir]

That's great to know but why do you have to keep on dragging the topic out of the closet?
If you can't justify the PS2's cheap price for a few select games then that's your problem, so live with it and deal with it.
This is just indignant.

If you have a good enough PC you could just look into emulation to play some games.
I already mentioned this idea earlier - the pitfall is in there only being one reasonably successful emulator for the PS2 (PCSX2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCSX2)), and it still being unstable.

[Shorty]

I don't think people are "dragging it out of the closet" for shits and giggles. I think it's because it was a feature that people genuinely wanted to see put back in.

You didn't see pages of forum posts generated when Sony reduced the number of USB ports from four to two or when they removed the metal accents.

[Lazlow]

THEY REMOVED THE METAL ACCENTS!??!?

Those bastards

[Bronze]

It's strange how many people never had a PS2, lots of people had those things!

I might even fire mine up, I just realised the I bought Ratchet and Clank 1 & 2 ages ago and I haven't even opened the 2nd one.

Dude, the second one is easily the pinnacle of the series to date. I loved it so much that I immediately played through it a second time after the credits rolled.

[borgster101]

Isn't a system sellerOnly if you don't like good games! :p

Is that the same as Valkyre Profile for the PSP?
No, it's a different series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valkyria_Chronicles) entirely. Seriously it's one of the best games I have played this generation, brilliant game! My avatar is the main character :)

I didn't have a PS2 back in the day either Manny, but I wanted to play MGS3 before playing MGS4 .. and so when I found MGS3 for $20 at a video store, I said to myself screw it I'm just going to buy a PS2 .. I got it for $187 or something and it came with God of War II and a Memory Card .. since then I have enjoyed the awesomness of Yakuza, Yakuza 2 (currently playing), Kingdom Hears 1&2, MGS3, Persona 4, Shin Megami Raidou and there's still other games I bought that I havent got around to yet .. but most stuff on PS2 is quite cheap.

Still some key games I'm missing (i.e. Ico and Shadow of the Colosus), but yeah if you want to get your hands on the best of the PS2 .. then I'd say just a buy a PS2 :)

[Manny M]

Idiocy

My mind boggles at your arrogance and stupidity. It truly does.

[Stevorooni]

Dude, the second one is easily the pinnacle of the series to date. I loved it so much that I immediately played through it a second time after the credits rolled.

You've just inspired me to dig out the PS2 and fire it up

Oh wow we had to manually walk over to the console and press the button to turn it on back in those days! It was a simpler time...

[Starscream]

...Still some key games I'm missing (i.e. Ico and Shadow of the Colosus), but yeah if you want to get your hands on the best of the PS2 .. then I'd say just a buy a PS2 :)

As much as everyone believes that BC should (or possibly will via a FW update) be a standard feature on the PS3 (using the Xbox 360 and Wii in comparison) I don't think Sony is going to have it back. You want to play the back catalogue of PS2 games, Sony wants you to buy a PS2.

It was there when the launch models were released and now it's gone. If you have a launch model PS3 and there's BC, look after it because when breaks down and you still want to play your PS3 and PS2 games you're going to have to either track down another launch PS3 or buy a new PS3 and PS2.

I would welcome BC if it were to be put back in, especially since I'm in the market for another "gaming blu-ray player" but given Sony's track record I'll probably wait for a white region A PS3 slim and a better exchange rate.

[Jay]

As much as everyone believes that BC should (or possibly will via a FW update) be a standard feature on the PS3 (using the Xbox 360 and Wii in comparison) I don't think Sony is going to have it back. You want to play the back catalogue of PS2 games, Sony wants you to buy a PS2.

It was there when the launch models were released and now it's gone. If you have a launch model PS3 and there's BC, look after it because when breaks down and you still want to play your PS3 and PS2 games you're going to have to either track down another launch PS3 or buy a new PS3 and PS2.

I would welcome BC if it were to be put back in, especially since I'm in the market for another "gaming blu-ray player" but given Sony's track record I'll probably wait for a white region A PS3 slim and a better exchange rate.

Surely Sony will repair said models? I have one ( :) ), and when I sent it off last year for an under warranty repair I specifically made sure they were going to send me back the same one for that very reason. I don't know anything about the technicalities, but what happens if the part that breaks down in my PS3 has to do with the BC? Will they still repair it?

Oh, and Creedy, like the PS3, your argument is not backwards compatible.

[Starscream]

^ You should be okay since launch PAL PS3s uses software emulation to play PS2 games. US and JAP launch PS3 models rely on built in hardware (Emotion Engine) to run PS2 games.

[Stevorooni]

But the software versions must still rely on a specific piece of hardware because otherwise it wouldn't cost Sony money to keep it in, thus keeping it out.

[Jay]

Unless...unless...they're filthy liars...but no, that can't be...

[Shorty]

As much as everyone believes that BC should (or possibly will via a FW update) be a standard feature on the PS3 (using the Xbox 360 and Wii in comparison) I don't think Sony is going to have it back. You want to play the back catalogue of PS2 games, Sony wants you to buy a PS2.

It's possible that Sony have seen what Microsoft have done with the Xbox Originals program by selling emulated original Xbox games, but the 360 still offers backwards compatibility anyway so that program is more about the convenience than anything else.

[Jay]

Also, by having BC as a feature of your system doesn't suddenly make last generation games free. You still have to buy them.

[Creedy]

It's possible that Sony have seen what Microsoft have done with the Xbox Originals program by selling emulated original Xbox games, but the 360 still offers backwards compatibility anyway so that program is more about the convenience than anything else.

What are you on about there?
The Xbox originals aren't emulated, they are basically dumps of the original DVD's. It's still running via BC.
Or am I missing something here?

[Shorty]

The games are emulated using the built-in emulator in the Xbox 360.

If Sony have been working on that all-software emulator they patented a while back, they could do the same thing and start selling PS2 Originals or whatever.

[Natrak]

Dude, the second one is easily the pinnacle of the series to date. I loved it so much that I immediately played through it a second time after the credits rolled.

Here, here, R&C2 is ****ing awesome.

[Creedy]

I played through all 4 R&C games on PS2 before tackling the PS3 R&C.
I have to say I loved all the games but by the time I got to Tools of Destruction I felt quite drained.

[Lazlow]

A jizzworthy series indeed?

[Manny M]

So, are the current 80GB PS3s in stores now backwards compatible? I'm assuming software emulation if so, so if so is there a list somewhere?

[/backslash]

So, are the current 80GB PS3s in stores now backwards compatible? I'm assuming software emulation if so, so if so is there a list somewhere?
Nope, only the original 60gb were and they're extinct now. There's a list somewhere for the compatible titles but its easier & cheaper just to buy a PS2 slim

[Manny M]

Brilliant! Well at least there's no confusion about getting a slim or an old PH.

[/backslash]

Brilliant! Well at least there's no confusion about getting a slim or an old PH.
The only confusions to be had is that the PS3 slim doesn't have touch sensitive buttons and the blurays take roughly 33% longer to load (but they're much quieter to play). But the PS3 slim does let you choose if you want to decode the sound through your receiver or PS3 slim and it generates about half the amount of heat so it'll run much cooler

[Manny M]

Touch sensitive? Are you referring to pressure sensitive buttons on the control pad?

Another thing. If I was to import a bunch of games from Play-Asia, would that rule out me downloading any DLC for those games in the future, because my console is from a different region to the games i'm playing?

[Shorty]

The only confusions to be had is that the PS3 slim doesn't have touch sensitive buttons and the blurays take roughly 33% longer to load (but they're much quieter to play). But the PS3 slim does let you choose if you want to decode the sound through your receiver or PS3 slim and it generates about half the amount of heat so it'll run much cooler

Why is that?

[Manny M]

Why do you have to keep dragging moot 'issues' out of the closet mate?

:P

[/backslash]

Touch sensitive? Are you referring to pressure sensitive buttons on the control pad?

Another thing. If I was to import a bunch of games from Play-Asia, would that rule out me downloading any DLC for those games in the future, because my console is from a different region to the games i'm playing?
I'm talking about the Eject & Power buttons on the console. Click here for a review (http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/27/playstation-3-slim-review/)

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/08/ps3-slim-review-2009-08-27_04-26-38-rm-eng600.jpg

With the DLC, if you have access to the asian PSN store and have an asian copy of the game you're fine. But if you have an asian game and only have access to the local PSN store you're stuffed - same with vice versa, AU games don't work with US content.

Why is that?
Probably because there's not much in the Slim model I guess, click here to look at the inside of it (http://playstationlifestyle.net/2009/08/26/take-a-look-inside-the-ps3-slim-literally/)

http://playstationlifestyle.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/ps3-slim-topless.jpg

Visual observation is that there looks like there's only a drive and a giant fan (above the mobo & cpu). Probably loads blurays slower to keep it running cooler I guess. Also another thing I should point out, if you're upgrading from a Phat to a Slim and putting your HDD drive in, it won't work even if you have the latest firmware installed. For some stupid reason you have to make a backup beforehand and transfer the content using USB and then format the HDD which is a major pain in the ass since I got corrupted save files last time doing that (and yes I did do a proper backup, not copy & paste) - you might have to redownload stuff too

[Manny M]

With the DLC, if you have access to the asian PSN store and have an asian copy of the game you're fine. But if you have an asian game and only have access to the local PSN store you're stuffed - same with vice versa, AU games don't work with US content.

That sucks. Takes a bit of the shine from its region-free capability.

[Starscream]

I'm talking about the Eject & Power buttons on the console. Click here for a review (http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/27/playstation-3-slim-review/)

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/08/ps3-slim-review-2009-08-27_04-26-38-rm-eng600.jpg



Good review and comparisons with the old PS3 phat.

Will have to wait to import a Ceramic White PS3 slim!

[Lordage]

Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet but I have a little 'insider' information for anyone interested in the PS3 Slim.

Dick Smith Electronics will have it bundled with Batman: Arkham Asylum for $499 at release (which I believe s Sept. 3rd?). ;) Not an amazing deal but considering JB have it for $480 with NO games I'm thinking it's about as good as you will get.

As we generally don't take perorders it's pretty much first in best dressed. If anyone in the ACT is interested in maybe getting one put aside PM me and I will see what I can do. :)

[/backslash]

Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet but I have a little 'insider' information for anyone interested in the PS3 Slim.

Dick Smith Electronics will have it bundled with Batman: Arkham Asylum for $499 at release (which I believe s Sept. 3rd?). ;)
I said it first! :p Somewhere

[Lordage]

Yeah well i work there... :P

It has its advantages... I knew about the Wii deal (Wii + Wii Fit + MotoGP for $388) 2 weeks before it happened ;) We also have GH: Metallica for $88 with the guitar but I think that ends on Monday...

[consoul]

Why is that?I'd put it down to the new BD drive. They switched to a different (cheaper) model for the Slim.

[HiredMan]

You work at the DS Powerhouse in Woden Lordage?

[Manny M]

I think the Batman bundle is enough to seal it for me. I was going to buy it anyway for the 360, so essentially paying $400 for a PS3 is justification enough. I'll have to pop into the Pitt St store as soon as I wake up.

Do they package HDMI cables in with the slim?

[Shorty]

AFAIK, they haven't packaged HDMI cables with the PS3 since they launched it.

[JubeiSaotome]

JB HiFi has a special on their site for PS3 Slim 120g with HDMI Cable.

[oompa]

I have noticed a few people talking about buying PSN cards from ebay to buy stuff from the US Playstation store, has anyone done this and is there any problems with buying off the US store? I have a USA account setup so if I buy a PS1 game from the store would I be able to transfer it to my PSP or if I buy a full game can I play it on my aussie account or will it only work on the USA account?

[JubeiSaotome]

As long as your PSP has the american account logged into it, yes, you can play it on your PSP.

[McChimp]

AFAIK, they haven't packaged HDMI cables with the PS3 since they launched it.

Yeah, mine only came with AV's. Had to spend an extra 20-30 bucks on HDMI's.

[Lordage]

You work at the DS Powerhouse in Woden Lordage?

Nein, I live in Civic.

Oh and Manny, 1) it doesn't go on sale until Thursday and 2) Batman is worth $119, so you're paying $380 for a PS3 :P

[aubergine]

Yeah, mine only came with AV's. Had to spend an extra 20-30 bucks on HDMI's.

Does the PS3 have a standard HDMI output? The 360 sort of does except that you need a special adaptor if you aren't carrying the sound via the HDMI (eg, to my computer monitor) forcing you to buy the $50 Microsoft accessory.

[Bronze]

Or you can crack open and take off the thick moulded plastic on the AV cable that prevents you from doing so.

I did it to the D-Terminal cable on my current NTSC-J 360. Works perfectly fine.

[McChimp]

Ummmmm, guess it's standard. No adapters needed. Basically, first time you plug it in, you hold down the power button, it beeps twice, then you're prompted as to whether you want to run it in HDMI (I think that's how it goes). Any time you plug it into another set (or just unplug it for whatever reason), you have to do this.