DJ Hero 1 & 2 - DJ Hero 2 out October 19th

[Shorty]

Not content with producing plastic guitars, drums and microphones, Activision are now turning their attention to vinyl. DJ Hero, coming to Xbox 360, PS3, PS2 and Wii in October, will be giving turntablism the rhythm game treatment. The controller will consist of a rotatable turntable with three stream buttons, a cross-fader, an effects dial and a "Euphoria" button (ie. DJ Hero's version of "Star Power").

The soundtrack will consist of over 80 mashups of 100 songs (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/05/28/dj-hero-to-feature-80-original-mixes-of-100-songs/) (listed here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dj_hero#Soundtrack)) put together by the likes of DJ AM, Z-Trip, DJ Shadow, Grandmaster Flash and DJ Jazzy Jeff (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/02/grandmaster-flash-is-a-dj-hero-plays-dj-hero/) (if you recognise that name then congratulations, you are old :p) with artists including Gwen Stefani, Nirvana, Marvin Gaye, Gorillaz, N*E*R*D, Foo Fighters and Foreigner. You'll even be able to use your guitar controllers to play alongside (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/02/video-dj-hero-turntable-and-guitar-gameplay/) on ten songs in the "DJ vs Guitar" mode. There's also talk of adding turntable support to future Guitar Hero titles (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/12/neversoft-would-like-to-add-turntable-support-to-guitar-hero/).

Pricing hasn't been confirmed for Australia, though I'm hoping we'll still get the nifty Renegade Edition (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/04/enough-dj-hero-media-for-you-to-make-your-own-mashup-song/) with case/stand and bonus CDs. :cool:

Anyway, here's a ton of trailers to watch (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/04/enough-dj-hero-media-for-you-to-make-your-own-mashup-song/). The more I see of this game, the more I look forward to it.

[Xanafalgue]

DJ Shadow has me interested.

[AranchineD]

It's too bad there's already about 50 billion DJ games out already that look better than this does right now.

[Shorty]

Like what? The only other game like this that I can think of is Scratch: The Ultimate DJ.

[TrinityJayOne]

I don't understand how this game would work. How can you score, based on accuracy, a style that is inherently freeform?

[AranchineD]

@Shorty Mostly obscure Japanese titles. >_>

But Beatmania really, and I bring it up because unlike the Guitar Freaks -> Guitar Hero deal, DJ Hero really doesn't look to be expanding on that gameplay at all, rather it's almost dumbing it down a bit.

[Xanafalgue]

I don't understand how this game would work. How can you score, based on accuracy, a style that is inherently freeform?

Sounds like the game takes everything fun about DJ'ing out of DJ'ing. CAN'T WAIT! :D

I wonder where they can go form here though? I'd imagine a kids version of Rockband is being drummed up by some dullard suits in an Activision meeting room somewhere at the centre of a volcano. I would buy Imagine: Rockband Babyz if it had a xylophone, cymbals, a triangle, a recorder and a keyboard :cool:

[Blue]

Sounds like the game takes everything fun about DJ'ing out of DJ'ing. CAN'T WAIT! :D

I wonder where they can go form here though? I'd imagine a kids version of Rockband is being drummed up by some dullard suits in an Activision meeting room somewhere at the centre of a volcano. I would buy Imagine: Rockband Babyz if it had a xylophone, cymbals, a triangle, a recorder and a keyboard :cool:Yeah, there is one, it's called LEGO: Rock Band. ;)

[Xanafalgue]

Yeah, there is one, it's called LEGO: Rock Band. ;)

Really? LOL.. I should probably know that. Is it as AWESOME as Imagine: Rockband Babyz? :cool:

[Blue]

Really? LOL.. I should probably know that. Is it as AWESOME as Imagine: Rockband Babyz? :cool:I'd sooner have LEGO: Rock band than Rock Band Babyz. :P It's got Blur's song 2 in it. Then there's 'Band Hero', the kiddy-friendly Guitar Hero.

Hey, if these games get kids into rock music, by having them play and talk about the mildly-rocking tracklist rather than the top 40 charts, I'm all for it.

[Shorty]

@Shorty Mostly obscure Japanese titles. >_>

But Beatmania really, and I bring it up because unlike the Guitar Freaks -> Guitar Hero deal, DJ Hero really doesn't look to be expanding on that gameplay at all, rather it's almost dumbing it down a bit.

I don't think there's anything wrong with a Western developer having a crack at that genre, considering that there hasn't been a Western Beatmania game for at least a few years if not nearly a decade. It worked well enough for Guitar Hero, although I don't see this series becoming nearly as huge.

[UC1]

@Shorty Mostly obscure Japanese titles. >_>

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[Shorty]

DJ Hero plays pretty much like that except there's one turntable and you hold down either of the stream buttons while scratching.

[UC1]

DJ Hero plays pretty much like that except there's one turntable and you hold down either of the stream buttons while scratching.

I get the impression that the scratches you do are all pre-recorded, and the game is more about hitting the 3 buttons, then about moving the record, then about the fader. Crackin' is all about the fader. I'd say there's a fair bit of difference between hitting the right button and moving a fader at the right time.

DJ Hero is probably a bit closer to Beatmania (in that you're mainly pushing buttons), and Scratch is really similar to Beatmania, but not as good apparently.

For those who haven't DJ'd before, scratching is about 10% moving the record, 90% fader techniques.

[Clockw0rk]

DJ'ing in Guitar Hero would be pretty sweet, they could throw some oldschool Slipknot in there and it would be all kinds of awesome.

[Blue]

I get the impression that the scratches you do are all pre-recorded, and the game is more about hitting the 3 buttons, then about moving the record, then about the fader. Crackin' is all about the fader. I'd say there's a fair bit of difference between hitting the right button and moving a fader at the right time.

DJ Hero is probably a bit closer to Beatmania (in that you're mainly pushing buttons), and Scratch is really similar to Beatmania, but not as good apparently.

For those who haven't DJ'd before, scratching is about 10% moving the record, 90% fader techniques.And DJing is about 10% about scratching.

[StorminNorman]

Tell that to Mixmaster Mike.

I dunno... I can't really get it up over DJ Hero. I should, because I love hip-hop and electronic music, but this game just... doesn't move me.

[UC1]

Tell that to Mixmaster Mike.

I dunno... I can't really get it up over DJ Hero. I should, because I love hip-hop and electronic music, but this game just... doesn't move me.

Exactly.

I'm not too hyped over this either fwiw. Seems a bit bizarre.

[Lex]

But Beatmania really, and I bring it up because unlike the Guitar Freaks -> Guitar Hero deal, DJ Hero really doesn't look to be expanding on that gameplay at all, rather it's almost dumbing it down a bit.

the gameplay doesn't really look that similar. in IIDX, it wasn't really a very good "dj simulation", because it was mostly just bashing out buttons, even the scratch pad was just another button to activate

[AranchineD]

And DJ Hero still looks to be dumbing it down.

[Shorty]

There's a stack of new vids up on GameTrailers. There are Beginner (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-09-dj-hero/54594) and Advanced Tutorials (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-09-dj-hero/54596) as well as vignettes for Grandmaster Flash (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-09-dj-hero/54592) and DJ AM (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-09-dj-hero/54590).

[Shorty]

Daft Punk have 11 songs confirmed for DJ Hero (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2009/09/daft-punk-to-rock-dj-hero/1).

[AranchineD]

See, now I'm interested!

[Manny M]

About one month to go now!

[Shorty]

Cut Chemist and J.Period (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/09/cut-chemist-is-in-dj-hero/) have also joined the cast of DJ Hero.

[StorminNorman]

DAMMIT I don't want to buy this game.

Please Activision, stop putting decent artists in there so I don't end up impulse-buying this.

Cut Chemist and Shadow in the same game is getting dangerously close to "must own" territory for me.

My only saviour is if it's Outsider-era wiggidy Shadow rather than Endtroducing/Private Press era good Shadow.

If this has Midnight In A Perfect World or Stem or even What Does Your Soul Look Like in it, then I'll have no choice but to buy it. Endtroducing is about my favourite record of all-time.

[REQUIEM]

I want to give this a whirl.

[Blue]

They're really getting some good, popular, artists on board for this. I still don't really like the idea of having the buttons on the vinyl. No way I'm buying it either, I don't need another bloody rhythm game!

[Shorty]

There's a new J.Period video (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/j-period-dj-hero/56130) up at GameTrailers.

[RunningMild]

You'll even be able to use your guitar controllers to play alongside (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/02/video-dj-hero-turntable-and-guitar-gameplay/) on ten songs in the "DJ vs Guitar" mode. There's also talk of adding turntable support to future Guitar Hero titles (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/12/neversoft-would-like-to-add-turntable-support-to-guitar-hero/).

What would be even better is if they made 'Rap Hero' where you used the turntable and a GH microphone. :p

I like the look of this game. Hopefully I can get it on a 7 day trial and return it after I get bored in a few days. ;)

[jawsy]

What would be even better is if they made 'Rap Hero' where you used the turntable and a GH microphone. :p

Def Jam Rapstar goes close.

[Shorty]

So there's allegedly a DJ Hero sequel in the works (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/09/30/feign-surprise-dj-hero-2-allegedly-in-the-works/).

[AranchineD]

I'll wait to see if the first game is good or not to declare whether this is a good or a bad thing. >_>

[Vindik8or]

I don't understand how this game would work. How can you score, based on accuracy, a style that is inherently freeform?

Well, best ask yourself how Beatmania works, it being the title that spawned the entire Bemani genre (which extends through to DDR and Guitar Hero, they are all the same basic game).

[REQUIEM]

At $300 I can get x2 2nd hand Technics SL1200 so why play with a toy. Once again Australia getting raped with the pricey plastic gimmicks that will be superseded within 6 months with Dj hero2 new and improved set.

[Lex]

Well, best ask yourself how Beatmania works, it being the title that spawned the entire Bemani genre (which extends through to DDR and Guitar Hero, they are all the same basic game).

not really, IIDX simply uses the disc as another button to activate, nothing like DJ hero, which detects the degree to which you've turned it.

[Shorty]

Destructoid just put up a bunch of videos (http://www.destructoid.com/holy-crap-we-have-a-lot-of-dj-hero-videos-to-show-you-150379.phtml) showcasing the game's co-op and competitive multiplayer modes like "DJ vs DJ" and "DJ vs Guitar".

[Blue]

At $300 I can get x2 2nd hand Technics SL1200 so why play with a toy. Once again Australia getting raped with the pricey plastic gimmicks that will be superseded within 6 months with Dj hero2 new and improved set.Because one is a hobby, and the other is a game.

[Shorty]

Isn't that argument a rehashed version of "why don't you play REAL guitar", anyway?

[Blue]

Isn't that argument a rehashed version of "why don't you play REAL guitar", anyway?Well, when you rehash a game, people rehash their arguments. :p

[Shorty]

Joystiq has the full track list for DJ Hero (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/06/dj-heros-full-track-list-revealed/).

[aubergine]

They had this on at EB today. I didn't try it but watched the shop guy and companion play it. Looked shit. I had fun reaching in and pushing buttons while the shop guy played though. "What does this do?" push "Activates Star Power apparently."

[REQUIEM]

I wont be getting this, at $300 its way to exspensive for something that will probably brake in the first month like most of the version 1.0 instrument gimmicks.


Edit : at $124 (Big w) it was worth a shot so I hope it doesnt brake on me.

[Shorty]

That's only the Renegade Edition, which has been delayed a week (http://au.gamespot.com/pages/news/story.php?sid=6237953). The standard version, which is $180, goes on sale tomorrow.

[Manny M]

Thank god it's not $300 for the standard version. $180 is reasonable enough, and going by IGN's Review (http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1038927p1.html) (yes yes, it's IGN, but it's a good start), i'll probably be picking this up.

I'll just wait on a few other opinions first.

[Nic Xtreme]

I had no interest in this until I watched some videos - it completely reminded me of Rez somehow. Apparently, you can't fail a song, either, the song will just sound shit, which is awesome. I don't exactly have the cash for it though, unfortunately, nor the trust in these early peripherals. I'll just wait for #2!

[Manny M]

Good point on the peripherals, although that being said, my older Guitar Hero devices are still going strong... which is not what I can say of the World Tour shit I paid through the nose for.

[Shorty]

Speaking of which, Big W's bundling a DJ Hero & Guitar Hero Controller (http://www.bigwentertainment.com.au/product/dj_hero_ps3_wireless_guitar_bundle_5747583_2565510 .html) for around $200.

[Australian Ninja]

When Hyper does their review I'd like to see one of those head-to-head reviews with
DJ Dish Jockey Vs DJ Hero, like how they did their Rock Band/ Guitar Hero reviews

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Jonny9999/dishjockey-v1-003.jpghttp://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a88/Jonny9999/DJHero.jpg

[Rambo]

I just bought it for $129 at JB. Playing it now, I'll give you a run down in a bit.

[grimace06]

I just bought it for $129 at JB. Playing it now, I'll give you a run down in a bit.

Did you price-match? Because I'm sure I saw it there for $159?

[nkbswe5]

Did you price-match? Because I'm sure I saw it there for $159?
Got mine for $129 too, its on sale until the 4th (as I said in the Bargain Hunters thread :p)
It's good fun, but I can't really get over 2 stars on hard, and can generally get 5 stars on Medium (never less than 4).
But it's amazing fun, I'm happy there is no 'Song Fail' and the large amount of buttons being used at once demanding full attention is neat.
So yeah. Buy now.

[Blue]

Funny, I'm not one of these Guitar Hero haters who says "just play a real guitar", because the two things are so different. One is a game, one is a string instrument.

As far as DJ Hero goes, however, I look at it and honestly think I'd have more fun buying a cheap MIDI controller and DJing software for a slightly higher price, and learning to mix tracks myself. Guitar Hero is a great instrument-themed game, whereas DJ Hero seems to be too similar to actually mixing your own tracks to get away with its inflexibility. It's as if they've just taken a mixing desk, dumbed it down, added in arbitrary button-pressing, and removed any sense of creativity that DJing has.

I was slightly interested, but I've gone off the idea entirely. Just seems like an okayish concept, poorly executed.

[Rambo]

Well I'm having good fun with it. I've played it for about an hour now, and can comfortably play hard, and mucking around with expert. The only thing is I can't tell if I'd fail a song because it's impossible to do so. I'm kind of angry at that.

I still get a sense of achievement once I've scratched off a 50 note streak, and trying to add in a couple of disc spins between scratches is awesome.

I find scratching the blue button much harder because of its position on the board, being so close to the center of the board. The difficulty is there, but completly taken away with a no fail feature, and the menu design can eat a dick. I don't know what the **** is going on.

I am enjoying it though, and I will probably play through the whole set list a couple of times. So far I'm a huge fan of Rhianna and Killers mix.

[Shorty]

As far as DJ Hero goes, however, I look at it and honestly think I'd have more fun buying a cheap MIDI controller and DJing software for a slightly higher price, and learning to mix tracks myself. Guitar Hero is a great instrument-themed game, whereas DJ Hero seems to be too similar to actually mixing your own tracks to get away with its inflexibility. It's as if they've just taken a mixing desk, dumbed it down, added in arbitrary button-pressing, and removed any sense of creativity that DJing has.

The thing is, DJ Hero is an "instrument-themed game" too, so it will also contain that level of abstraction between what the game does and what a DJ actually does. Criticising DJ Hero for lacking the "creativity that DJing has" is kinda like criticising Guitar Hero because you can't freestyle your own solos. They're still games and so they will be limited as to how closely they can imitate their respective real life activities and still be fun games.

However, there's also Scratch: The Ultimate DJ coming out next year, so maybe that will be more to your liking.

In other news, there's already DLC for DJ Hero. The "Extended Mix Pack 01" contains two tracks - All of Me by 50 Cent with Mary J. Blige vs. Radio Ga Ga by Queen and DARE by Gorillaz vs. Can't Trust It by Public Enemy. It's 480 MSP or about 8 bucks on PSN. Sounds a bit pricier than Rock Band songs, but it's worth taking into account that each "track" actually contains two songs so it would be more expensive to license.

[Bokracroc]

I'd rather get some play time before I throw money down on this. There's a few songs with interest me buutt..... :S

[Lex]

Funny, I'm not one of these Guitar Hero haters who says "just play a real guitar", because the two things are so different. One is a game, one is a string instrument.

As far as DJ Hero goes, however, I look at it and honestly think I'd have more fun buying a cheap MIDI controller and DJing software for a slightly higher price, and learning to mix tracks myself. Guitar Hero is a great instrument-themed game, whereas DJ Hero seems to be too similar to actually mixing your own tracks to get away with its inflexibility. It's as if they've just taken a mixing desk, dumbed it down, added in arbitrary button-pressing, and removed any sense of creativity that DJing has.

I was slightly interested, but I've gone off the idea entirely. Just seems like an okayish concept, poorly executed.

That's stupid.

[Blue]

The thing is, DJ Hero is an "instrument-themed game" too, so it will also contain that level of abstraction between what the game does and what a DJ actually does. Criticising DJ Hero for lacking the "creativity that DJing has" is kinda like criticising Guitar Hero because you can't freestyle your own solos. They're still games and so they will be limited as to how closely they can imitate their respective real life activities and still be fun games.

However, there's also Scratch: The Ultimate DJ coming out next year, so maybe that will be more to your liking.Yes, but the disparity between GH and a guitar is much larger than DJ Hero and actually mixing tracks yourself. Guitar Hero replicates none of the functionality of a real guitar, and is a very abstract representation of the instrument. The DJ Hero system utilises scratching, mixing, faders, samples, and other devices to create something that closely mimics the actual art of DJing much more closely, but instead of giving you creative options with those tools, it only results in you being given more arbitrary button presses.

I look at this system and think that, unlike a guitar, which takes years to learn, I could pick up cheap equipment and learn to mix tracks. Guitar Hero is easier than playing guitar, but still fun. DJ Hero seems to end up being not as much fun as Guitar Hero, and not as rewarding and intuitive as actual mixing, leaving it in an odd position in my eyes.

It doesn't help that the track list is really shooting for the mainstream appeal, which leaves the mixes a bit ridiculous in parts.

[Shorty]

I still think you're a little pre-occupied with what the game isn't (capturing the entire creative aspect of DJing) rather than what it is (a DJ-themed rhythm game that includes many aspects of turntablism). Logically, your argument could also mean that drumming in RB or GH is "less fun" because it too is a much closer analogue to the real thing than playing virtual guitar.

However, I can understand not being enthused about the track list because that's a matter of taste and I won't argue that.

[REQUIEM]

Just paid $124 at Big W so at that price I gave it whirl. At $179 I wouldnt have bothered, Big W comes through again. Havent played it as yet will wait for tonight after I have had a couple of beverages.

[Saxby]

Just picked it up too. Looks great, but I won't be able to play it until monday. Ahh well. Everyone enjoying it so far?

Edit- Forgot to mention I grabbed it from Big W, because at that price, I couldn't refuse. Love it.

[REQUIEM]

Played a bit now and I must say its a breath of fresh air and entertaining for the Hero franchise, worth the $124 thanks Big W.


Edit: A little more grip on the buttons would be nice as when the directional scratching is in play it tends to slip away a tad and with the unforgiving controls it can lead to mishaps. Still overall a good purchase at the price I payed.

The 2pac 'How do you want it' remix is great and so far the remixes are very well done and any haters should produce better b4 they complain.

[Manny M]

I grabbed it today (although I think I got 'ripped off' because I paid $159 for it)... but it's a damn fine game. The mixes so far have been great (with the exception of on with eminem which was too slow), and it's great fun to play.

Only tackling it on medium now, and it does get tricky in parts... can only imagine how much moreso when they introduce directional scratching and spikes into the mix.

Happy with the purchase.

[RunningMild]

I bought this today because EB guaranteed it was covered by the 7 day return policy. I'll play it tonight and see what it's like.

[JulesFox]

I'm actually pretty surprised at how much fun it is. I kinda figured it would be fun, but its moreso than i thought it would be.

And it's good to see lots of other ppl are enjoying it. My circle of friends are such rock purists and have been mocking me for getting it.

[Xanafalgue]

Eurgh. You guys and your positive impressions. I want this but I don't want to buy it :mad:

[Blue]

I still think you're a little pre-occupied with what the game isn't (capturing the entire creative aspect of DJing) rather than what it is (a DJ-themed rhythm game that includes many aspects of turntablism). Logically, your argument could also mean that drumming in RB or GH is "less fun" because it too is a much closer analogue to the real thing than playing virtual guitar.

However, I can understand not being enthused about the track list because that's a matter of taste and I won't argue that.I actually don't really enjoy drumming in GH, to be honest. As a drummer, I find it counter-intuitive trying to follow along, something that doesn't seem to phase me with guitar.

[RunningMild]

I love this game! I can't remember the last time I actually smiled while playing an Activision game. :p

Also, the setlist is incredible and has made me appreciate DJing/mixing a lot more than I used to. I used to think all it was was 'butchering the classics' but after hearing the remixes in DJ Hero and how they bring new meanings out of old songs, and make songs I didn't even like sound totally awesome, I now realise how artistic and skilful it can be. The mix of We Will Rock You and Robot Rock is simply amazing.

[tau]

I actually don't really enjoy drumming in GH, to be honest. As a drummer, I find it counter-intuitive trying to follow along, something that doesn't seem to phase me with guitar.

I wish this made sense.

[AranchineD]

When you learn music IRL aren't you just following along to a music sheet or tabs or whatever? >_>

[REQUIEM]

Had to RETURN my DJ controller today the controls went all haywire. I should have known as it was the 1.0 version. Big W had one left to replace it so all good just hope this one lasts longer. The game is still fun though. :)

[RunningMild]

So there's not gonna be any Cobain-style controversy surrounding DJ AM's appearance in this game? I suppose he's only playing his own mixes though...

[Shorty]

So there's not gonna be any Cobain-style controversy surrounding DJ AM's appearance in this game? I suppose he's only playing his own mixes though...

AFAICT, each celebrity DJ has their own set by them where you can only play as them (e.g. you can only play as Grandmaster Flash for Grandmaster Flash's set), but once you unlock them you can use them in the other sets.

[Not Matt]

Besides... AM signed his rights away. He wanted to be in the game.

The controversy surrounding Cobain is simply that his appearance in the game was that it represented epitome of what Cobain detested and ultimately killed himself over.

[REQUIEM]

Besides... AM signed his rights away. He wanted to be in the game.

The controversy surrounding Cobain is simply that his appearance in the game was that it represented epitome of what Cobain detested and ultimately killed himself over.

yep being paid milllions for a likeness is annoying just ask kurts wife... oh its an act ...ok....

[Shorty]

Besides... AM signed his rights away. He wanted to be in the game.

OK, but we're still assuming that AM both knew and approved of the terms of the contract for how his image would be used, which was the crux of the Cobain GH5 controversy. Unfortunately, given his untimely death not long after, we'll probably never know if that was genuinely the case.

[Not Matt]

I think regardless of how his image was used, I'm pretty sure if you revived Kurt from the dead and asked if he'd like to star in the game today he'd blow his face off again :)

Anyway I finally got a chance to play this last night. Really like it. Reminds me of Amplitude more than Guitar Hero (which is good cause GH can seriously go and get ******ed!). I've had Beatmania for years but apart from Moloko (Sing it back!) I could never get into the game.

[Shorty]

FYI: You can actually use the crossfader to choose setlists in the menu.

[REQUIEM]

Still finding this game fun to play, even the mrs enjoys a spin of the deck which is extremly rare.

[Kasplatza Red]

Just picked it up after seeing the tracklist (and laughing at how the trailer looks like it's set in a stripclub). I do find it pretty sad that the main track I wanted it was for the MC hammer vs Vanilla ice mashup. I guess there a lot of other songs I like on there, too, all of Daft Punk's songs, etc.
Now give me a Jamiroquai DLC pack and I'll be one very happy woman...

[Saxby]

This game is pretty good. Would have loved a bit more freestyle optioning though...

[Kasplatza Red]

This game is pretty good. Would have loved a bit more freestyle optioning though...
This. Overall, happy with the purchase. Just unlocked and finished the Daft Punk set. The rewind function is especially fun. My hand's sorta sore for playing for about 4 hours straight.. D:

[Shorty]

This. Overall, happy with the purchase. Just unlocked and finished the Daft Punk set. The rewind function is especially fun. My hand's sorta sore for playing for about 4 hours straight.. D:

I know, eh? ;)

I try not to press down too hard on the turntable. Best position, if you're playing with the buttons on the inside, is to grip the outside of the platter with your thumb and have your three fingers on the trigger buttons.

The Rewind function is vital to getting those 5-star scores, so aim to earn it as often as possible. From my experience, it doubles your multiplier so don't use it while you have Euphoria active otherwise it'll be wasted. If you have some Euphoria built up, wait until after your multiplier goes back to normal from Rewinding before you kick it in. That way, you can keep your double score going as long as possible.

[Kasplatza Red]

Yup. I play with the buttons on the outside, so I usually grip the outside with my pinky finger. I've played up to and including the Daft Punk setlist on mediu
, though I think I'm almost ready to migrate up to hard pretty soon...

[Bokracroc]

Hard is where it gets fun with the direction scratches and all that.

[Saxby]

Yeah, I play on hard to expert - my problem is with the preset scratch audio that plays at a certain tempo that doesn't accurately reflect your scratching. It just feels like I'm activating a scratch mechanism in the programming and not scratching the record myself.

You can be a little off the beat and it will still scratch on the beat.

Also, anyone else hate the effects samples? They come in half a second after the button press which is just a joke.

[Lazlow]

Expecting this game to accurately reflect turntablism is like expecting Guitar Hero to recognise a pinch harmonic.

[Kasplatza Red]

It's madfun for what it is. I'm not hip to the jibe with actually being a DJ, nor have I really played any other DJ games, but I am enjoying this.

[Saxby]

Expecting this game to accurately reflect turntablism is like expecting Guitar Hero to recognise a pinch harmonic.
This is true... I hope that one day, they will.

I really should just get a real set of turn tables. Recording onto Vinyls is just so damn expensive though.

[Shorty]

In a recent interview (http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/104/1040105p1.html), Chris Lee revealed a second DLC pack will be coming on the 24th of November. For 640 MS points (or US$7.99 from the PSN), you'll get a three mixes by David Guetta.

[REQUIEM]

With the directional scratching I find the buttons sometimes slip out (play on the outside) the dam buttons need more grip IMO. Bar that Im still having loads of fun and hope some funky DLC gets released. Will be trying out that other DJ sim " SCRATCH " as that looks great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq4SKmYy-3U (Dj kitty)

I think DJing cats are funky.

[Kasplatza Red]

does anyone else think that the DLC is a bit Overpriced? D:

[REQUIEM]

does anyone else think that the DLC is a bit Overpriced? D:

Havent checked it yet. Will get back to you.

[Rambo]

Well they do have to get licensing for 2 different tracks, it does make sense.

I just saw the renegade edition. That's a HUGE box.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

So what's the verdict on this, worth $150?

[Kasplatza Red]

Target should still have it for $130. If you like the music, yes. If you don't, probably not, despite the gameplay being excellent.

[tau]

So how has the game held up over the last few weeks? People still playing it?

Every time I see it at JB, I give it a go, but can't help but feel like i'm doing **** all that's like actual djing at all, and am just left with a feeling of boredom.

[Natrak]

Guitar Hero isn't exactly like playing a guitar at all though, either.

[tau]

Never said otherwise!

[Natrak]

I'm just sayin' - if you're looking for something that closely resembles the actual act you're probably looking in the wrong place when looking at Guitar/DJ/Band Hero/Rock Band anyway.

If you're finding the game boring, that's probably your answer.

[AranchineD]

Playing for points to some cool tunes, this is what it's all about, yo.

[tau]

I'm just sayin' - if you're looking for something that closely resembles the actual act you're probably looking in the wrong place when looking at Guitar/DJ/Band Hero/Rock Band anyway.

If you're finding the game boring, that's probably your answer.

Cool, thanks but...

I'm asking YOU GUYS if YOU are still playing it, and why you are/aren't. Maybe there's a reason to be playing past the store demos, I don't know. I'm asking.

Also, yeah, the whole thing with guitar hero not being terribly close to real guitar is why I've never bought it. Only reason I'll ever buy a band game is for the drums and maybe vocals, with guitar being an added extra. Don't get me wrong, I generally enjoy guitar too, but I probably won't bother putting the time into it to get beat the hardest difficulties since it doesn't seem fun enough to go that far. IMO anyway.

So yeah, hopefully this time the question I'm asking can be answered... but just to make sure it's more obvious as to what I'm asking:

I'm asking YOU GUYS if YOU are still playing it, and why you are/aren't. Maybe there's a reason to be playing past the store demos, I don't know. I'm asking.

[Shorty]

I've got quite a few games on the go, but I do make time for some DJ Hero sessions. I wouldn't mind playing some multi with a couple of you guys, for the achievements.

[Bokracroc]

I play it lightly. Chuck it in when I feel like something quick and simple.

[Natrak]

Cool, thanks but...

I'm asking YOU GUYS if YOU are still playing it, and why you are/aren't. Maybe there's a reason to be playing past the store demos, I don't know. I'm asking.

Also, yeah, the whole thing with guitar hero not being terribly close to real guitar is why I've never bought it. Only reason I'll ever buy a band game is for the drums and maybe vocals, with guitar being an added extra. Don't get me wrong, I generally enjoy guitar too, but I probably won't bother putting the time into it to get beat the hardest difficulties since it doesn't seem fun enough to go that far. IMO anyway.

So yeah, hopefully this time the question I'm asking can be answered... but just to make sure it's more obvious as to what I'm asking:

I'm asking YOU GUYS if YOU are still playing it, and why you are/aren't. Maybe there's a reason to be playing past the store demos, I don't know. I'm asking.

Cool your jets hotrod!

(I haven't even played the game >_> )

[tau]

I just wanna daaaaaaance, oh I just wanna daaaa-wait

I mean I just wanna know :(

[Lex]

I only just got it, but I played it solidly all weekend and am now 5*ing most things on hard. expert not so much. still can't do those quick crossfade spike things for shit though.

gotta say, I'm pleasantly surprised, I wasn't expecting a whole lot out of it and I'm really enjoying it. the mixes are mostly pretty good, or at least tolerable - but some of them... ****.

[Antwandemarco]

This is true... I hope that one day, they will.

I really should just get a real set of turn tables. Recording onto Vinyls is just so damn expensive though.

When would you need to record onto vinyl?

[tau]

just get the turntables you use with cds/mp3s, removes the cost vinyl brings.

[Manny M]

I think it's a fantastic game... if you're into the kind of music on offer. It's fun but can be very challenging if you want it to be.

But, i've stopped playing it. And the only reason why is because I've got such little time that I want to get through all these single player games first.

[Lex]

so I can't even 3* Noisier on hard. and I'm loving it.

I think the reason I'm enjoying this so much, is that the most fun I've had with rhythm games is when I was struggling, when it was still a challenge. Hell, I'm looking forward to the next ridiculous -hero they put out, for when I eventually rule at DJ Hero :P

[Rambo]

I'm suprised at your response to this game Lex, I've already traded my copy in.

I dunno, I just didn't like the fact that a dog could play expert and still pass, you know? Nothing to strive for except unlocking new songs.

I did however play Band Hero and Lego Rock band today and enjoyed DJ hero more then both of them.

[Lex]

I still don't like the fact that you can't fail at all, but it does put a bigger emphasis on stars and score, which was a good idea for this sort of game.

[tau]

mm, I guess however the fun isn't in getting to the end of a song, but in perfecting playing the song. Slight change from other games, where the challenge in hardest of difficulties lies in simply completing the song.

[AranchineD]

Well in those other games the fun for me now in the harder difficulties is perfecting the songs too! :cool:

>_>

[Rambo]

It's all about the FC.

[Shorty]

New DLC song for free until the 14th (http://www.gametrailers.com/news/dj-hero-2-drops-this-fall/2161) - it's "Just Dance" by Lady Gaga vs "Ghosts 'n' Stuff" by Deadmau5.

[Bokracroc]

Free DLC to announce that DJ Hero 2 is coming later in the year.
Though honestly I bet I'll take a look at it though. As long as the music is good...

[tau]

DJ Hero 2 demo on xbla. Downloaded, played, I actually enjoyed it. That's coming from someone who thought DJ hero was meh.

[jons2ann]

TBH I don't enjoy any of the Activision rhythm based games and DJ Hero is probably the worst of them. I played it in JB one time and I just thought, "buttons on a turntable? Your f***ing joking right?"

I may be old fashioned but Konami's Bemani series was much better. I can't say it has better music, that is all personal taste. But overall game play and controls are definitely more enjoyable.

But no disrespect to the company that has provided me hundreds of hours of entertainment. Double Dragon and H.E.R.O on the Atari 2600 are works of art!

[Lex]

You're an idiot. The only thing iidx and djh have in common is the fact that its a dj game, one of them actually does a decent job at simulating it, and one is a button mashan gaem. Both are great. Dj hero is just more fun.

[jons2ann]

You're an idiot. The only thing iidx and djh have in common is the fact that its a dj game, one of them actually does a decent job at simulating it, and one is a button mashan gaem. Both are great. Dj hero is just more fun.

I understand your passion and advocacy for the game but calling me an "idiot" is juvenile and uncalled for. Please modify your post before I report it.

No where did I mention IIDX specifically but since you were so eager to compare the two, I brought overall game play and controls to the discussion. But your concern was accurate simulation? Please. I needn't mention it twice. Not only are they both games but combining two control mechanisms into one does seem retarded. Even for simulation. Hitting and scratching should be independent. The extra element (fading) might be cool but having one hand to do that the whole time seems a bit tacky.

Despite IIDX being far more focused on hitting (as you call button mashing) rather than scratching, it is far more complex that suits the true enthusiasts of rhythm based gaming. The base skillset required for most rhythm based games are the same. On an advanced level, you might have a stream of button presses or actions memorised. On a level above that, you might have to use advanced techniques along with a divide and conquer strategy. IIDX goes even further where you might have to play two rhythms at once for the hardest of songs.

However, the idea of DJing is to mix and play music and to get people dancing. It's a very basic form of art. It's not even an art form to be honest. DJ Hero does this better than IIDX. And to do this as a game? It sucks.

But look, there are different levels of enjoyment. If DJ Hero suits your gaming needs, I respect that.

[Lex]

****, I can't reply to novels on my iPhone. But you're still an idiot, report me. Just because you think a game should be made a certain way doesn't make you right, it makes you look silly. Dj hero works BECAUSE buttons and scratching are on the one hand. Iidx has nothing to do with djing at all. You could make the turntable a switch, remove the dj references altogether, and nobody would notice.

And yes, I'm well aware that it's a game. A simulation game. The idea of a sim is to simulate an experience but make it enjoyable, and scalable to the difficulty needs of everyone. Reminding me that it's a game doesn't help your argument in the slightest.

[jons2ann]

****, I can't reply to novels on my iPhone. But you're still an idiot, report me. Just because you think a game should be made a certain way doesn't make you right, it makes you look silly. Dj hero works BECAUSE buttons and scratching are on the one hand. Iidx has nothing to do with djing at all. You could make the turntable a switch, remove the dj references altogether, and nobody would notice.

And yes, I'm well aware that it's a game. A simulation game. The idea of a sim is to simulate an experience but make it enjoyable, and scalable to the difficulty needs of everyone. Reminding me that it's a game doesn't help your argument in the slightest.

Funny. You call me an idiot but you reply to me using an iPhone. Talk about an attitude that is self defeating. Hint: Use a computer.

What's with all the faulty assumptions? I never made claims to being in the right. I simply stated what I prefer in terms of game play. I don't invalidate your opinion because it yours. You can't force me to like DJ Hero because you like it.

I don't like DJ Hero.
Got a problem with that? Go see a shrink. Stop calling people "idiot" because they don't like what you like.

[Lex]

Hahaha oh wow. Argument over. Yeah man, what am I doing, I should lug my pc to work. Excellent point man. Excellent.

[jons2ann]

Hahaha oh wow. Argument over. Yeah man, what am I doing, I should lug my pc to work. Excellent point man. Excellent.

"Use a computer."

Go to a LAN or use a laptop instead. At least I was generous enough to assume you had that kind of intelligence. Now you're just being a cynical troll.

Bye!

[Lex]

....

Are you ****ing serious?

[Lazlow]

We all know Virtual DJ > them all. :cool:

[lex3191]

i think tapulous is da bomb

[SOX]

"Use a computer."

Go to a LAN or use a laptop instead. At least I was generous enough to assume you had that kind of intelligence. Now you're just being a cynical troll.

Bye!

A Challenger Approaches

[Shorty]

Joystiq recently published the full 83-track soundtrack list (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/09/21/dj-hero-2-soundtrack/) from DJ Hero 2. There's mixes from the usual suspects (DJ Shadow, Z-Trip, Scratch Perverts), some new faces (DJ Qbert, Tiesto, DJ Jazzy Jeff, the RZA) and plenty of mixes from the in-house DJs at FreeStyle Games. There's less Daft Punk and a bit more hip-hop this time around, but if you don't yet know how you feel about the track list for this game you can preview the mixes (http://www.djhero.com/en-us/games/mixes/djh2) for yourself at the official Web site.

[tau]

So, didn't really get into the first game, but picked up DJ Hero 2 a couple of days ago.

Oh man, loving it thanks to a much more pop focused soundtrack, as well as some fixed up mechanics (red button feestyle samples don't suck now yay).

I really want the soundtrack to this but can't "find" it anywhere :(

[Xanafalgue]

Just "buy" all the songs off of "iTunes"

;);););););)

[tau]

I'd "buy" all YOUR songs off of "iTunes"

;););););););););)

[Shorty]

You can now import DLC (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/11/psa-dj-hero-2-update-for-dj-hero-1-dlc-compatibility-now-availa/) from DJ Hero into DJ Hero 2.

[Shorty]

In what could be one last hurrah, Activision recently announced the release of Pendulum DLC for DJ Hero 2 (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/02/15/activision-surprises-dj-hero-2-fans-with-pendulum-dlc/). For 640 MSP or about $8 US on PSN, you'll get Watercolours, Set Me on Fire and Salt in the Wounds.