The R18+ Rating for Games Thread

[Shorty]

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu328/zerosignal/john_stewart_facepalm.jpg

[aubergine]

Time for the federal government to do what they promised/threatened to do and remove the bullshit AGs from the equation.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/Funny%20Gifs/wowab1.gif

[Queenie]

remove people's opinions from the equation, then we will have progress.

IN FACT, probably on any decent issue in today's society.

Go on facts, EVERYBODY WINS.

[TrinityJayOne]

I feel this series of images sums up my feelings nicely.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~trinityjayone/forum/wtf.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~trinityjayone/forum/vadernooo.jpg

http://members.iinet.net.au/~trinityjayone/forum/headexplode.gif

[Azzaman]

As long as they stop banning games from sale how is this a bad thing? There's quite a few games in the ma15+ category that should really be r rated (not all of course, but still a significant amount)

[Shorty]

As long as they stop banning games from sale how is this a bad thing? There's quite a few games in the ma15+ category that should really be r rated (not all of course, but still a significant amount)

How does moving them to an R rating require scrapping the MA rating altogether?

[Azzaman]

It doesn't, but my point is assuming they stop banning games altogether, is this necessarily a bad thing?

FYI I'm undecided about this, but it's the first thing that came to my head.

[VanAce]

I think consistancy is the key here. People are going understand the rating system better if it falls in line with other mediums like film and TV.

[Shorty]

It doesn't, but my point is assuming they stop banning games altogether, is this necessarily a bad thing?

FYI I'm undecided about this, but it's the first thing that came to my head.

Which was my point - you could just as easily solve the problem by just putting a R rating on top of all that. It's not like we have a four-rating limit or something.

[Azzaman]

True, which makes me wonder what the ulterior motive here is. Or even if they will cease banning games as well.

I do believe that making ma15+ games r rated makes more sense for games like gta, fear, deadspace, etc. Less so for others of course.

[Shorty]

I just think it leaves too big a gap between the M and R rating. MA was brought in for a reason.

Considering the motives of the people behind many of these moves and considering SA's history regarding classification law, I think it's safe to assume that any proposed change is going to be more restrictive than before.

[Azzaman]

Just read the article on this issue over at ign. This in combination with other r18+ laws will be fairly over the top. If they go the whole hog with with packaging and display it's gonna cause a massive headache for all game retailers...

[VanAce]

South Australia set to enforce R18+ (http://palgn.com.au/19419/south-australia-set-to-enforce-r18/)

[Xanafalgue]

Oh we're getting an 18+ rating and NOBODY CARES.

X or bust.

[Natrak]

We're not getting it yet, but it's looking likely. I'm still unsure of how much it will change, but at the very least an R18+ rating will mean some games are more properly rated.

[Space_Monkey]

Woot!

[Natrak]

Oh wow, it's actually happening.

[Hyperblau]

http://www.news.com.au/technology/gaming/r18-games-a-step-closer-says-brendan-oconnor/story-e6frfrt9-1226099826269

except its not really a step closer, we are just back to where we were with Atkinson.

[Shorty]

Wonderful progress, guys. :rolleyes:

[aubergine]

Major Nelson reckons we'll have something by years end. Meanwhile, South Australia just goes from stupid to stupid and stupid.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Someone just asked on News 24 whether the Norway shooter's love of violent games should make us rethink an R18+ rating..

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/Funny%20Gifs/1277972655983.gif

[Shorty]

Going on past history, someone stubbing their toe outside an EB Games would make us "rethink" a R rating.

[VanAce]

Violence, R18+ And Games: Watch Gizmodo on 7 Sunrise (http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/07/watch-gizmodo-on-7-sunrise-live-810am-live-stream-link/)

Seamus Byrne makes some very good points, which were completely dodged by the ACL.

[Hyperblau]

I generally don't like to make derogatory comments towards religions and other peoples beliefs....but for f****s sake, these people are a bunch of idiots. Seamus makes some really good points, and then this bloke just rambles on about 112 reports from other knobfaced religious zealots.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Closed the tab when I saw who he was debating.

[Lazlow]

What I find hilarious is that Breivik was fighting a perceived muslim invasion, fighting for a pro-Christian Europe.

His beliefs had more to do with his actions than any video game ever did.

[Lazlow]

Plus Jim Wallace doesn't miss an opportunity, no matter how tragic, to push the ACL's agenda;

http://i.imgur.com/GwTi1.jpg

[Azzaman]

wtf? that guys a massive tool, how the hell does he know what our servicemen are fighting for? Especially the gay or Muslim ones!

[Shorty]

Violence, R18+ And Games: Watch Gizmodo on 7 Sunrise (http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/07/watch-gizmodo-on-7-sunrise-live-810am-live-stream-link/)

Seamus Byrne makes some very good points, which were completely dodged by the ACL.

Over twice as much airtime, no less.

[aubergine]

Anzacs fought to keep us free from Nazis like that guy, he's so ignorant of history.

Wait for the hurr-durr wrong-war comments.

[Spudzilla]

Awesome trolling

[Shorty]

I'm pretty sure I've asked this before but does it still count as trolling if he actually believes what he's saying? I thought part of the deal was that trolling just throws controversial opinions in to stir things up.

[Spudzilla]

intentional logical fallacies

[Shorty]

Are you suggesting that he could actually find a less dickish way to get his point across but simply chooses not to? Because I get the feeling that he can't.

[aubergine]

I'm not sure you're both talking about the same thing.

[Spudzilla]

shut up dickhead

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I think he means you, aub.

[aubergine]

Hard to say, he could mean Shorty, or that guy from Facebook.

[Ninjalada]

well that was a long and pointless debate (http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2011/08/10/3290150.htm)

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I'll only believe it when I have a copy of Rapelay in my hand.

[TrinityJayOne]

Now we wait another decade for it to actually be put into effect!

[Shorty]

well that was a long and pointless debate (http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2011/08/10/3290150.htm)

Let's see if he'll support it "in practice".

[Nic Xtreme]

The third Move game worth owning has been RC'd. Guess they'll have to wait for the R18+ to be introduced. (http://palgn.com.au/playstation-3/19567/the-house-of-the-dead-overkill-extended-cut-refused-classification-in-australia/)

[Shorty]

What, did they get bored or something?

[Natrak]

Nice.

[borgster101]

LOL .. given the content of Overkill ... what was in the "extended" cut that pushed it over the edge? If anything at all? :p

[Natrak]

The graphics are so realistic now think of the children.

[oogi2000]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAARKAN CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARNNTS.

I bought the Move just for this and Dead Space Extraction. And maybe Deadstorm Pirates, as that is pretty cool.

Meh, Amazon here I come.

[Dr Skinnybones]

this is why
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/08/this-is-why-house-of-the-dead-overkill-extended-cut-was-refused-classification/#more-460753

extra zombies and head-shot only mode

[oogi2000]

So it is nothing different from the Wii version except pretty graphics? :cool:

[Shorty]

So apparently the Classification Review Board is chosen from "a range of backgrounds to broadly represent the Australian community"... as long as that range is "middle aged and white" (http://www.geordieguy.com/?p=1148). Which might explain things.

[aubergine]

Our caucasian elders know what is good for us. If anything, coloured people would be more strict because they are all religious crazies.

[Spazzola]

Their judgements are invalid due to their inferior souls. Likewise, the decisions of Jews are invalid because they are condemned to eternal servitude.

[aubergine]

Couldn't find this earlier, could absorb new thread I made.