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Darren
08-09-2009, 11:56 AM
We received this letter from a Hyper reader, and as it's too long to print in this month's letters section, I thought I'd post it here.

You're all very lucky people on the hyper crew and I'm sure that's something you get to hear from almost every letter and email that you get to open and well, I guess it has its perks but the truth is, you're all spoiled. That's right, not just those of you that print your fine magazine but also you, the reader in the real world who goes home to your DLC on your Xboxes and Playstations and your Wiis'.

Maybe you have an extra little something that you like to play with in your pocket like your Dsi or PSPs and iPhones but I was born before all of that rubbish and I'll tell you young pups now that we knew how to have real fun in those days.

When I was born, woodstock was in full swing and the flower movement was a real rocking place to be baby, long before austin powers revived some of the intrest in the long dead fad.

I still remember a time when tanks rolled up Gladstone road in brisbane some forty or more on the way to cunungra for training before going on to vietnam but alas, I digress in my efforts to put you in the right mindset of a bygone era.

This is all about the technology that you all take for granted today, but I was there watching it happen when I was a boy. When you think of games of the past, and I've seen and read your issues that always seem to kick off from the 80s, but the arcades were around long before games like pong and space invaders and it's time you were set straight on this. Like any good story, it starts off with “When I was a boy...” and as a boy I considered myself lucky when our grandad took us to the dirty rocky beach that he liked so much and it was there that I got to play my first “true” arcade game. It was a mopey old clown in a case and when you put your two bob in, you would be able to press anything up to six buttons to make the clown dance to a funny tune that would play when the lights flashed on. Go on, laugh if you will at the stupid old goat and his stories and you'll miss the obvious fact that this was indeed the grandfather of Dance Dance Revolution. Understand that this was before not only mobile phones but digital watches were also some way off, at least to the wider commercial market so stop your scoffing before I come over there and give you a clout over the earhole. Anyway, the more you could make the clown dance in time with the music would of course give you a final score and everyone would go home happy with fond memories of a grand day out. Little did I know at the time that this was just a simple precursor of things to come and it wasn't until I was much older that I was taken on a trip to see an uncle off on the plane back in the day when large crowds would do that very thing, all standing on the viewing deck waving hankies at departing aircraft because that was just the thing to do at the time. Of course, being a young fella back then meant that there wasn't a hope in the world that I was going to sit still and sure enough after much running about with my brother, we stumbled onto an oddity. It was something akin to finding the tycho monolith on the moon in retrospect and the two of us stood for hours looking at this … thing.

It was in essence, a televison set standing upright in a wooden box with two dials that could be twisted either left or right and some of you may have spotted the surprise by now that this was indeed the fabled PONG, or a very good pong clone in any event and it must have been long after the fad had taken in the states because right next to that was something that I can't recall the title of but it was a red baron type shooter with 2 airstrips down the bottom of the screen and the graphics were surprisingly worse than that of the atari 2600, all black and white of course and it amused us to no end. Now I can't say that this is the order or the timeframe that these games came out in, I can only vouch that this is the order that they happened into my life and changed me forever. The next few years saw me grow, the wonderful space invaders came out with a bang of course and there were dedicated arcades on every corner now, the world of computers was booming with the release of the Apple IIE and its amazing green screen and magically from out of nowhere, the first home consols started to filter through.

My first system was a Hanimex TVG070C which was balls of course and not much better than the intellivision that followed but it did make me appreciate the atari 2600 (which I still own with all games and extras) and every system I had from there. I built up horny worshippers in populous on the sega master system 2 and yes, alex kidd as well. In all of this timethe world kept turning and evolving of course and they started to remove the typewritters from every office desk in the cities and replaced them with computers, star wars came and hasn't left yet although it didn't quite make the same impression as the '74 floods to me at the time and why they would make star wars a double feature with pirhana for is beyond my reasoning because it scared the pogees out of me being the first of the two films shown. Time swept and rolled along to early adolesence when I was delivering pizzas for extra cash when one fateful night I saw my first fully 3D console game on the television and I was thunderstruck but the guys that had ordered the pizza were cool if not a little up themselves. I looked at the grey box on the floor, never really having heard of such a wonder and on the screen was the most beautiful, chest heavy girl I had ever seen that spoke with the cutest english accent.

Of course, there's not much point to go on because this is where most of you have already walked the path to being a true gamer, but I still get the last laugh because I was in there and doing that before you were and I saw a lot of famous mascots being born too. Pacman, Mario before he sold out, lara and crash and spyro (RIP little purple dragon), I was working in timezone when greats like joust and laserdisc games came to pass and remember playing in the arcade after closing time at 1am with all my mates, free credits flowing and fast food going down hungry game starved throats. Everything from turkey shoot to super sprint, gauntlet and spyhunter, I was even there when the very first editions of crossbow and pole position 2 showed up.

That's what's life about lads, it's the memories that you get from the gaming goodness that matters, not the scores or the achievements or the crazy cheats and unlockables that you now have to buy as DLC because the days of free stuff are well and truly as dead as road kill, mark my words.

Yes, well, it's time for my nap now, I don't expect you to publish a long ass story like that of course but I had to say it, say that I was there and that I remember a simpler and better time.

Ciao.

Now, there's certainly a pertinent point in there about remembering the past in order to appreciate the present and anticipate the future, but still... thoughts?

ElPresidente
08-09-2009, 12:00 PM
Ummm...

ThePhotoshop
08-09-2009, 12:18 PM
And just this issue we at PCPP got a reader mail complaining about how we dwell on the past too often. Wish we could print this as the reply!

Australian Ninja
08-09-2009, 12:22 PM
Hmmmm, I really enjoy living in this "more complicated" and "worse" time.

It's good to know that I've been set straight by the ramblings of the mystery letter writer. Has the person been sent a link to this forum where their letter has been posted?

I don't quite get the letter. Does being "older" make a person "better"?

Have I wasted my time reading about various arcade machines that most likely existed before this person was born (1930s etc) in an effort to understand more about modern gaming?

Will my post be ruined by the addition of another question mark? (doh!)

Stevorooni
08-09-2009, 12:24 PM
I remember hearing young kids complaining about the shit graphics on the N64, their first console.

But having started on the C64 and Atari 2600 I had a different set of standards and was completely amazed by the N64 and what it could do. I had experienced the past and seen what limitations games used to have. We didn't even have a 3rd dimension...


But you know, technology moves forward and we shouldn't feel guilty for enjoying the better things

JubeiSaotome
08-09-2009, 12:27 PM
N64's had shit graphics were the reason why I ditched Nintendo that era for a PlayStation. NMS had a habit of showing silicon graphics machine imagery and writing as if those stills were what the N64's would look like in action. I figured, I'd take low res textures over fog hell anyday.

Lazlow
08-09-2009, 12:37 PM
Oh, I see you got my letter!

Stevorooni
08-09-2009, 12:48 PM
N64's had shit graphics were the reason why I ditched Nintendo that era for a PlayStation. NMS had a habit of showing silicon graphics machine imagery and writing as if those stills were what the N64's would look like in action. I figured, I'd take low res textures over fog hell anyday.

N64 HAD GREAT GRAPHICS

The problem was that you were reading NMS!

AranchineD
08-09-2009, 01:27 PM
That's what's life about lads, it's the memories that you get from the gaming goodness that matters, not the scores or the achievements or the crazy cheats and unlockables that you now have to buy as DLC because the days of free stuff are well and truly as dead as road kill, mark my words.

But what if you get memories from the the scores or the achievements or the crazy cheats and unlockables that you now have to buy as DLC?!

Stevorooni
08-09-2009, 01:35 PM
Finally completing some hard level on the Megadrive or finally nailing some hard achievement on the 360 sounds pretty similar.

JubeiSaotome
08-09-2009, 02:04 PM
N64 HAD GREAT GRAPHICS

The problem was that you were reading NMS!

Yeah, this was my 15 year old mentality. I was more than likely comparing N64 launch titles to FFVII's cut scenes.

Vindik8or
08-09-2009, 02:09 PM
This was written by some dickhead 26 year old with airs-and-graces who has just read some wikipedias about the history of arcades and tried to pair it with other historical events that he remembers from year ten history in 1998. I hope that he gets early-onset male pattern baldness.

au4onx
08-09-2009, 02:32 PM
@Vindik8or.. it may very well be the case! it is a bit waffly and yeah kinda... condescending, but you know, live and let live I guess.

But what I think is quite interesting about the letter is that it presents another way of putting "value" on Videogames. His views are quite valid! And I understand where he's speaking from... but I personally don't really relate to it, because my background and my personal history is competely different.

It's not very practical to make judgements on both sides. I think people react differently to different kinds of media and we all just have to learn to respect that. Take out of videogames what you want to take out be they achievements or big chested girls with cute accents... we all have different experiences... we should just be open about it

sausage
08-09-2009, 03:57 PM
lol old prick get back to your walking frame and gtfo.

TAT
08-09-2009, 04:19 PM
You're all very lucky people on the hyper crew and I'm sure that's something you get to hear from almost every letter and email that you get to open and well, I guess it has its perks but the truth is, you're all spoiled. That's right, not just those of you that print your fine magazine but also you, the reader in the real world who goes home to your DLC on your Xboxes and Playstations and your Wiis'.

Maybe you have an extra little something that you like to play with in your pocket like your Dsi or PSPs and iPhones but I was born before all of that rubbish and I'll tell you young pups

And that's as far as I got.

Cicada
08-09-2009, 06:48 PM
This was written by some dickhead 26 year old with airs-and-graces who has just read some wikipedias about the history of arcades and tried to pair it with other historical events that he remembers from year ten history in 1998. I hope that he gets early-onset male pattern baldness.

It certainly seems to lack consistency. He claims to have been born sometime in the 60s, but was in his early adolesence delivering pizzas for extra cash at the time of the first Tomb Raider. Unless I got so confused by the brain sludgifying rambling nature of the story that I misread it.

FX-GTZ
08-09-2009, 07:16 PM
*original post*

Vindik8or
08-09-2009, 07:18 PM
Why is there no more nep? WHY?!

Watchers
08-09-2009, 07:23 PM
Oops. Seems I deleted the whole post FX - sorry. Feel free to edit back in your original post, withouth the giant quotes.

Sweating Bullets
08-09-2009, 07:43 PM
Is that Senator Ted Stevens sending letters to Hyper now?!?!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-12-2006/headlines---internet

AranchineD
08-09-2009, 07:47 PM
Oops. Seems I deleted the whole post FX - sorry. Feel free to edit back in your original post, withouth the giant quotes.

I wish more mods would "accidentally" delete FX's entire posts.

fearofthesky
08-09-2009, 08:00 PM
It was in essence, a televison set standing upright in a wooden box with two dials that could be twisted either left or right and some of you may have spotted the surprise by now that this was indeed the fabled PONG, or a very good pong clone in any event and it must have been long after the fad had taken in the states because right next to that was something that I can't recall the title of but it was a red baron type shooter with 2 airstrips down the bottom of the screen and the graphics were surprisingly worse than that of the atari 2600, all black and white of course and it amused us to no end.

Longest goddamn sentence ever?

Watchers
08-09-2009, 09:57 PM
I wish more mods would "accidentally" delete FX's entire posts.

Shhh...

<_<

Halt, Hammerzeit
08-09-2009, 10:04 PM
This guy sounds to me like the dude that won't listen or go to a concert for a particular band because he was listening to them when nobody else was and now they've just sold out. I mean, seriously, this guy wants to try and tell us that his first experience with video games are better than his? I can remember going over to my uncle's place to play his NES and it was one of the happiest christmases ever when I got my SNES. I can still remember the first time I played an N64 (it was in a shopping centre in Germany. Ah, fighting Bowser goodness in German. Couldn't understand a word of what was written but I loved it).

You don't have to be the first to experience something to have good memories of it.

Araenel
08-09-2009, 10:10 PM
"Gaming goodness" is the video game equivalent of "taking it one game at a time".

Use should be a hanging offence.

grimace06
08-09-2009, 10:32 PM
I'm yet to ever meet an older person who says "its time for my nap now" followed by "Ciao".

Beinkasaurus Rex
09-09-2009, 07:24 AM
Man, I dunno about this guy and his beliefs towards Gaming Goodness. I don't know much about all this though, I just take life one game at a time, really. What he wrote doesn't change a thing for me.

Australian Ninja
11-09-2009, 01:21 PM
One game at a time? That's crazy talk man. Five games at once, that's the only way - and you should be watching TV and reading a book all at the same time.

drzaius
17-09-2009, 04:35 PM
lame.
this dude is in his early 30's/late 20's at the LATEST.

BB2K
17-09-2009, 05:29 PM
Haha, yeah, what a ****ing liar.
I mean, he first played/learned of Tomb Raider in his adolescence, most likely 16~ because he stated he was delivering pizzas at the time and it would be pretty hard to do without a driver's license, so at most he would be, what, 32?

RunningMild
17-09-2009, 09:37 PM
I think the point of that story is that he was wearing an onion on his belt, which was the style at the time.

Also, I find it funny that this person talks about working at an arcade and playing all the games for free past closing time, and he's calling everyone spoiled. :rolleyes:

punkgorilla
17-09-2009, 10:14 PM
"You're all spoiled because I have awesome gaming memories that you kids never will."

RunningMild
17-09-2009, 11:14 PM
"You're all spoiled because I have awesome gaming memories that you kids never will."

Yeah, coz no-one else on this forum was around when awesome mascots such as Crash, Lara and Spyro were being born! :rolleyes:

Also, do I even need to ask what sort of freaky growing disability would cause someone to be born in the 60s and not reach adolescence until the 90s? I'm with Vin, this has gotta be a fake.

Australian Ninja
18-09-2009, 03:34 PM
Yeah, coz no-one else on this forum was around when awesome mascots such as Crash, Lara and Spyro were being born! :rolleyes:

Also, do I even need to ask what sort of freaky growing disability would cause someone to be born in the 60s and not reach adolescence until the 90s? I'm with Vin, this has gotta be a fake.


Gee, what part of the nonsense tipped you off?

I'm pretty sure this guy with his "story" is from Shelbyville, and we all know not to trust those folk because they keep bees in their beds and they started the war by stealing the number six, of course I know because I was there, and let me tell you whipper-snappers an exciting thing or about postage stamps.....

REQUIEM
20-09-2009, 06:38 PM
"You're all spoiled because I have awesome gaming memories that you kids never will."

Im an original gamer of the early 80's these Kiddies dont know where gaming came from. Their idea of old skool was mario on the nes or sonic on the megadrive.