Fifa '10 [Archive] - Hyper Magazine Forums

proofreeder

20-09-2009, 04:40 PM

Ugh... I feel dirty starting a thread about Fifa.

But I've been playing the demo of this latest version a great deal and I feel it's improved a lot. The 360 degree dribbling feels like a massive improvement, the jostling and the AI have all improved. I'm not quite sure how 360 degree dribbling works at the moment, but having had a bash on '09, '09 felt really stilted in comparison only having 8 directions of initial movement. Defensive AI is great, the defenders position them for double team opportunities when they arise without providing openings. Defenders get into annoying positions blocking runs but also having a foot in passing lanes.

I never got into '09 despite playing the demo a lot (at the suggestion of other posters). One of the issues I had with it (of many) is the defenders would continually back up against an onrushing ball carrier to ridiculous postions. This has been rectified.

The whole game feels vastly improved. One AI issue I have is defenders don't seem to account for throughballs. Also, presently I'm not always able to judge how far an opposing player can reach to tackle for the ball, so I get the ball taken off me on runs more than I would like. But this could just be because I'm unused to the control scheme.

But overall, it feels pretty sweet. At the moment, I will probably buy this over Pro Evo, the first time I have ever bought a Fifa game. As posted in the Pro Evo thread, I will be greatly saddened if it comes to that, but also excited to try a new football game.

Anyway, has anyone else played the demo? I thought with all you Fifa lovers out there, somebody would be raving about the improvements by now. You need Xbox Live Gold to download it.

Do many people play Fifa online? How does it fare? I'm interested in getting into it if it's better than Pro Evo's "nightcrawler" version.

SOX

20-09-2009, 05:13 PM

Fifa 98 on the N64 was pretty fun

Cian

20-09-2009, 05:28 PM

But overall, it feels pretty sweet. At the moment, I will probably buy this over Pro Evo, the first time I have ever bought a Fifa game. As posted in the Pro Evo thread, I will be greatly saddened if it comes to that, but also excited to try a new football game.

Success!

And to answer your later question, Fifa is HUGE online....always lots of people playing it. Pre-ordered my copy today.

Blue

20-09-2009, 05:34 PM

Yeah, FIFA has a really well-designed online infrastructure, and you'll always get good games. Very helpful, as I rarely play anything but online multi in many of my games nowadays.

I loved 08 at the time, but found 09 to be a solid improvement. I haven't played the 10 demo yet, but previews have filled me in on all the details. 360º movement is a drastic improvement.

proofreeder

21-09-2009, 12:31 AM

You should give 10 ago. I even redownloaded '09 again to see if I'd got it wrong but I still didn't like it. 10 feels much better IMO. I still don't think I could play '09.

Have you downloaded the demo yet Cian? I know you haven't downloaded PES. Did you get a good deal on the Fifa pre-order or just the standard?

Me and my mate are talking about getting the PSP version also. Anyone play that? How's it rate comparatively?

I'm pretty keen to play online football now if the game runs well, I haven't played online games aside from a MMO game I gave up on. I'm very tempted to buy it on the PSP, the 360, then try to master it to (hopefully) dominate online.

One thing that turned me off online football is I played one guy on PES once who did this massive cheat formation where his whole side were defenders except Henry, then my team pushed up for offside, then he kept lobbing longballs for Henry to chase. He thrashed me lol, obviously a well practiced cheap ploy. I think I could have figured out a way to beat it if I messed around with formations and shit, but I couldn't be bothered. Hopefully there's nothing like that with Fifa online.

RunningMild

21-09-2009, 01:20 AM

FIFA just keeps getting better and better, and this one will be an insta-purchase for me. I can't wait to play as Real Madrid's new team, it's like Galacticos v.2!

grimace06

21-09-2009, 01:58 AM

My brother pre-ordered this at GAME and they gave him a free copy of Fifa Street 3.

It is an abomination.

proofreeder

21-09-2009, 10:42 AM

Oh yeah, I saw that, thanks for reminding em about that deal. But Fifa Street 3's an abomination? That's not something I'm interested in :( Maybe trade in value?

Mr M, I hope they made Benzema as good and two footed as he is in RL. Make sure you play him above either Van Nistelroy, Higuain or Raul! (so many bloody strikers).

RunningMild

21-09-2009, 11:22 AM

Mr M, I hope they made Benzema as good and two footed as he is in RL. Make sure you play him above either Van Nistelrooy, Higuain or Raul! (so many bloody strikers...)

And you didn't even mention Huntelaar. :p

That's one thing I love to pieces about FIFA- you can loan out players! ;)

Pauly

21-09-2009, 11:39 AM

nice to hear 10 is on track. i still thought 09 was great though :)

Spazzallo

21-09-2009, 01:41 PM

Demo of this is pretty good but it would've been nice if EA had bothered to change the damn interface a TINY bit to make me feel like I'm playing a new game!

Pauly

21-09-2009, 01:45 PM

yeh that kinda annoyed me with 09. looks like not much is changing there lol.

RunningMild

21-09-2009, 03:27 PM

yeh that kinda annoyed me with 09. looks like not much is changing there lol.

At least changes are being made in the most important area- gameplay. With EA Sports games, it used to be the other way around (massive interface updates but nothing on the gameplay front). :p

I wish I'd got to spend more time with 09. I tried a Manager Mode with Perth Glory, which sucked, and I didn't play it after that because there were too many other games to play at the time. I'm almost tempted to try Glory again now that the team is competitive, but I honestly cbf. I'm absolutely dying to have another epic Manager Mode as Real, and the wait between games has been unbearable (is is just me or is this game coming out 3 months later than last year?).

Pauly

21-09-2009, 03:45 PM

when is release? it's usually out early september isn't it?

proofreeder

21-09-2009, 05:15 PM

Thurs Oct 1st.

Edit: That's the official date, might be a few days before.

autologic

21-09-2009, 05:48 PM

I haven't downloaded the demo yet due to my annoying download limit, but I had heaps of fun with 09 and with the new stuff they've put in and positive reactions to the demo I will certainly be picking this up come Oct 1. I had so much fun online with 09, definitely looking forward to this.

One thing that turned me off online football is I played one guy on PES once who did this massive cheat formation where his whole side were defenders except Henry, then my team pushed up for offside, then he kept lobbing longballs for Henry to chase. He thrashed me lol, obviously a well practiced cheap ploy. I think I could have figured out a way to beat it if I messed around with formations and shit, but I couldn't be bothered. Hopefully there's nothing like that with Fifa online.
I only ever encountered something like that once, and I played 09 constantly online for a good 6 months. In my case some dude had managed to get Ronaldo, Ribery, Kaka and a bunch of other stars into his Barcelona side and you can't normally edit the teams like that online. It wasn't so bad though, I managed to get a goal up with only a minute or so to go and he rage quit. In fact that's probably the only real downside I found with playing online; if I went up 2 or more goals in the first half I'd get quite a few rage-quits. Although there are so many people who play online that it's no problem finding another game. I'm really not looking forward to every second ****er playing as Real Madrid this season though. It was bad enough with people constantly being Man U/Barca last year.

proofreeder

22-09-2009, 11:46 AM

proofreeder

25-09-2009, 12:18 AM

Well, I've ordered Fifa 10 from EB because they give out a $25 discount off the second EA '10 game, and I intend to buy it on PSP also. It's out "officially" next Thursday.

It's a sad, sad day for me, purchasing Fifa over my beloved PES, probably my favourite videogaming series of all time (I love football), possibly tied with the Elder Scrolls series, but I said I'd play both demos with an open mind and IMO Fifa played the better football.

On the plus side, at least now I'll be able to join in communities, play football games with friends, etc, etc. Being a devout PES fan in a world full of Fifa is a lonely existence. None of my friends wanted to play PES with me, and when they did, they said it was shit lol, and I didn't like playing Fifa.

Sorry PES, I feel like a traitor, especially since Fifa ripped half their game from you, your programmers, your control system, etc, but I'll always have good memories of the countless, countless hours we've spent together. Maybe I'll buy both :/

But I am pretty damn excited about this Thursday :D

Spazzallo

25-09-2009, 12:22 AM

Pauly

25-09-2009, 10:12 AM

"Fifa New Skills Tutorial"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8tgRw8I7U0

Personally, while that looks great, I'm always very skeptical about the effectiveness of tricks in soccer/basketball games. But hopefully I'm wrong, and some of these would be effective. The "bridge" move would be awesome if it works well, I use that move in real football all the time, it's invaluable. I'll try it on the demo.
bridge and first time chip look like fun. it's also good to see you played both demos with an open mind. i converted to fifa a couple of years ago but i do believe it is leaps and bounds ahead these days. a shame really because pes was undoubtedly the best and i have very fond memories of the series.

Cian

25-09-2009, 07:06 PM

My last weekend playing Fifa 09. **** yeah. I'm hoping this will be released early, rumours floating about that EB will have it on Tuesday.

Cian is ready to demolish Grimace once again (I will never forget).

RunningMild

26-09-2009, 01:52 AM

I'm really not looking forward to every second ****er playing as Real Madrid this season though. It was bad enough with people constantly being Man U/Barca last year.

Play me then, and rest assured that I would have played as Real regardless. :p

Spazzallo

26-09-2009, 11:32 AM

I'm really not looking forward to every second ****er playing as Real Madrid this season though. It was bad enough with people constantly being Man U/Barca last year.

The thing that annoyed me most were idiots who had a favourite team who were good (Milan, Inter, Chelsea) and would still swap to bloody Man U!

Lazlow

29-09-2009, 01:56 PM

rumours floating about that EB will have it on Tuesday.

Rumours come to fruition?

I'm unusually keen for this game.

proofreeder

29-09-2009, 06:51 PM

Nope. EB didn't have and when I asked they still said Thurs.

As posted before, they are offering $25 off their next EA 10 game though + price match, which I'm going to use to get PSP Fifa for $25. That's the best deal I could find coz I don't want Fifa street.

Cian

29-09-2009, 06:55 PM

Rumours come to fruition?

I'm unusually keen for this game.

Nope, unfortunately.

I know a guy who works at GAME and he said his head office were called by EA telling them not to break the release date. Fine by me since I have an assignment due that day, now I'll actually get it finished without getting addicted to Fifa early. The same guy took his copy home though, bastard.

Manny M

29-09-2009, 11:55 PM

This looks to be the first football game I buy since Fifa 06 World Cup... for the main reason that it's one of the very few games the non-gamers I know will want to play.

Looking forward to the 'upgrade'. That trick vid looked sweet also, and while i've never really bothered with tricks in past games, here's hoping they've included tutorials to give you some indication on how to use them effectively.

Spazzallo

30-09-2009, 12:19 AM

You're still playing World Cup 2006? o_o I bought that game a couple of weeks back and returned it the next day.. it was horrible! :(

Can't wait for this. Comes out on the day my assignment is due so all is good :). Fifa Street 3 currently rotting on the shelf with the wrap still on!

I've had a look at achievments for FIFA 10 and a lot of them are very similar to FIFA 09. Also if you're an achievment whore, it looks like a good way of racking up a fair few is to start off with a 1 star team in division three or lower. Playing a game as a team from every leadgue may take a while as well o_o.

Some secret ones..

Time For a Testimonial - Play 500 matches with your virtual pro - 50g

I played FIFA 09 a lot but not this much o_o. I probably played 1 game in the Be-A-Pro mode!

Bad Loser - Select to quit and forfeit 5 xbox live matches when losing - 0g

This will either work out very well or very badly for EA, though most people who play online a lot will probably end up with this one day :(.

RunningMild

30-09-2009, 01:37 AM

I learned today that Huntelaar has already been traded away by RM, but Arbeloa has been signed!

Here's what I'm thinking re: starting lineup, with a 4-3-3.

GK: Casillas
RB: Sergio Ramos
CB: Metzelder
CB: Pepe
LB: Marcelo
DMF: M. Diarra
CMF: Xabi Alonso
AMF: Van Der Vaart
RW: C. Ronaldo
LW: Raul
CF: Van Nistelrooy

To think Benzema and Kaka are on the bench... also if it's a big cup game, I may go with a midfield of Alonso, Van Der Vaart and Kaka to blast the opposition with pure offensive talent.

Bad Loser - Select to quit and forfeit 5 xbox live matches when losing - 0g

I love it! If you see anyone with that achievement, refuse to play them!

proofreeder

30-09-2009, 01:54 AM

I learned today that Huntelaar has already been traded away by RM, but Arbeloa has been signed!

Here's what I'm thinking re: starting lineup, with a 4-3-3.

GK: Casillas
RB: Sergio Ramos
CB: Metzelder
CB: Pepe
LB: Marcelo
DMF: M. Diarra
CMF: Xabi Alonso
AMF: Van Der Vaart
RW: C. Ronaldo
LW: Raul
CF: Van Nistelrooy

To think Benzema and Kaka are on the bench... also if it's a big cup game, I may go with a midfield of Alonso, Van Der Vaart and Kaka to blast the opposition with pure offensive talent.

I love it! If you see anyone with that achievement, refuse to play them!

Play Kaka! And Benzema while you're at it, but how on Earth are U not going to play Kaka in your starting line up? Do you know how much he freaking cost to warm the bench? And Benzema is an absolute gun, people will realise soon. But I like you're passion! :)

RunningMild

30-09-2009, 11:36 AM

Play Kaka! And Benzema while you're at it, but how on Earth are U not going to play Kaka in your starting line up? Do you know how much he freaking cost to warm the bench? And Benzema is an absolute gun, people will realise soon. But I like you're passion! :)

TBH, there's a lot of players on the list (incl. Benzema) who I'm not too familiar with, so I'll probably book a full pre-season of games and try a bunch of different lineups just to see who goes where. In other words, everyone will get a chance to win starting spots. ;)

Also, Van Nistelrooy seems to get tired pretty easily, so if Benzema is his backup he'll still get heaps of game time. :p

On another note, damn you EA for making everyone stick to the street date!

autologic

30-09-2009, 04:15 PM

Spazzallo

30-09-2009, 04:51 PM

So street date was broken today but I missed the phone call because I wasn't home and only found out now that I could've received it today. FML!

Jickle

30-09-2009, 04:59 PM

Had a choice between review copies of this and Ultimate Alliance 2 today, decided to go with Fifa 10 despite being shit at '09.

Have to say, for a person who doesn't know much about soccer, this is a huge improvement over what was already a very good game. Not only because the disc is packed with tutorial videos, but because everything just feels....right. It's like watching an actual game of soccer, and the new 360-degree controls are fantastic.

I'm probably the least knowledgeable person in the thread about the actual sport (I enjoy watching it but know bugger all about tactics/teams/players), but I'm very impressed with Fifa 10 thus far.

proofreeder

30-09-2009, 05:20 PM

I'm probably the least knowledgeable person in the thread about the actual sport (I enjoy watching it but know bugger all about tactics/teams/players), but I'm very impressed with Fifa 10 thus far.

Jickle, stop trying to steal Mr M's mantle... HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Er, sorry I'm joking, just excited about Fifa coming out. EB wouldn't let me get a copy today, but it's okay coz me and a mate are going to go in and get it tomorrow on 360, PSP, and also possibly GT on PSP because he's getting a PSP go also. Seems like it's all coming out at once!

Van Nistelroy used to be awesome but I haven't heard from him for a while. If I were going as Real I'd probably start him and Benzema. VN would be a great player to bring in as a goal scoring supersub however like a Solskaer type player or Inzahgi.

For those that don't know Benzema, here's the scoop - he's going to be an absolute superstar. I dunno what his stats are on '10 but if autologic's correct then this year he should be much better than 09. So two footed with a zidane-esque touch. I think he scored a brace the other week in La Ligue.

And don't worry Jickle! You gotta start somewhere. You could probably learn the game through videogames to be honest. The physics in football games are so good nowadays you use many of the same principles in RL. Soccer's based on physics just like everything else, so it's not hard to pick up. Good that you can appreciate the game without knowing a lot about football!

Hooray! Only one more day to wait, because I'm getting bloody sick of Barca vs Chelsea and having to restart the game every 5 mins or so (on the demo).

I hope the PSP version is decent.

Manny M

30-09-2009, 05:23 PM

You're still playing World Cup 2006? o_o I bought that game a couple of weeks back and returned it the next day.. it was horrible! :(

Not a huge soccer fan really, so i'm not easily turned off by lack of 'realism'.

I just picked up Fifa 10 today also. Had EB price match JB's price of $89 because there was no way I was going to pay $110 for it.

Jay

30-09-2009, 05:32 PM

Broken eh? Will check the JB on the way to the gym methinks...

Jickle

30-09-2009, 05:36 PM

Broken eh? Will check the JB on the way to the gym methinks...

Get it on 360, this is a game you can actually beat me at! :p

(I kid, I kid. Unless we're talking about CoD4.)

Jay

30-09-2009, 05:37 PM

No no you're pretty spot on. With the possible exception of Uno (and the occasional lucky game of Worms). Ha ha.

Yeah, I was going to grab the 360 version. Hopefully one of my local JBs has broken the date too.

Spazzallo

30-09-2009, 05:47 PM

I did a pre-order at GAME with trade ins and the receipt said $110 despite me not paying anything. Do you think they'd price match or because it's part of the 'trade one in and get the game for $40' they wont?

RunningMild

30-09-2009, 07:03 PM

I'd start definitely Benzema over Van Nistelrooy, I used to play Lyon a fair bit on 09 and he's awesome. Also, when I'd play as Real on 09 I always preferred Huntelaar, Higuain and Raul over Van Nistelrooy. He was great if you could get a bit of space in the box, but overall he got tired quick and is generally pretty slow.

He was really good in FIFA 08, but maybe that was more due to my playing style. I prefer having at least one striker on the field who can genuinely contest the ball in the air and score headers off crosses. That's why I was planning to have either Van Nistelrooy or Benzema at CF at any one time (the Pro Evo demo suggests that Benzema is good through the air).

You could probably learn the game through videogames to be honest.

I did! :p

Manny M

30-09-2009, 10:38 PM

I gave it a crack tonight, and spent all my time playing with my 'pro' (who is a pale dude with shaggy white hair, piercing blue eyes and a constant angry look... his name is Buffalo Bill), which was an interesting way to play the game. While annoying that, as a striker, I had no control over my defence, the satisfaction you get from being in the right position and taking advantage of a good play to score a goal is much higher than in your 'standard' game.

I also tried mucking around with the skills, but they're a little tough to pull off, especially during a match. Do top players of fifa actually use these skills?

Spazzallo

30-09-2009, 10:58 PM

I found it very rare in 09, probably only happened at the start of matches or towards the end when the opposition is 4 goals in front and teasing :(.

Lazlow

30-09-2009, 11:20 PM

Pretty funny that the goalies will fall for a chip shot, between the box and the dot, every time.

proofreeder

30-09-2009, 11:52 PM

Manny M, I very rarely used tricks in Pro Evo. HOWEVER, some were invaluable. The fake shot for instance was a must have, and it feels the same way in Fifa. I'll let you know how much I use these on Fifa when I actually get the game, I have a feeling I'll be posting in this thread a lot. In saying this, I hope to master this game, and any trick that improves my game I will try to incorporate.

Also, it's not really a "trick" but learn to stop the ball dead. In the Fifa demo, it feels situational as to which button you need to press which I do not like. NBA Live does the same thing. In sport, it doesn't matter which way you're facing, a move is a move.

bradlaw

01-10-2009, 12:16 AM

what a lovely game! got it earlier tonight from kmart $86 already on sale, which is what i was hoping for, hence walking down there at 8pm...anyway!!! yes its good loving the new features on manager mode. ive played two matches and lost both haha! might have to put down the difficulty till i get a bit more used to it. :)

Jay

01-10-2009, 12:27 AM

Just played a couple of games against Jickle. It is a superb game. Even this early I can tell I'm going to be playing this for some time. Even considering not buying Pro Evo. Wow.

grimace06

01-10-2009, 04:43 AM

Played a bit of this against mates tonight - I love it. 20 goals in 5 games.

As soon as I get some Live bring it on, Cian.

proofreeder

01-10-2009, 09:30 AM

Hooray! Fifa day. Probably the only fullpriced game I'll buy this year and hence the only chance I'll have to post in a thread without a hefty bump and no replies.

what a lovely game! got it earlier tonight from kmart $86 already on sale

Thanks! Hopefully this will save me $3 on a price match ha ha.

Glad everyone has such positive first impressions! :)

Cian

01-10-2009, 10:08 AM

As soon as I get some Live bring it on, Cian.

As soon as I stop vomiting I'd be more than glad to play you :p

So far it's a great improvement but I'd prefer to play it without rushing out to the toilet every ten minutes.

Jay

01-10-2009, 10:09 AM

I knew supporting Arsenal would get to you eventually...

texta

01-10-2009, 10:22 AM

I'm sneaking into town today to trade in 09 for 10. I don't expect to get much but my other half will never notice the difference.

Jickle

01-10-2009, 12:11 PM

Just played a couple of games against Jickle. It is a superb game. Even this early I can tell I'm going to be playing this for some time. Even considering not buying Pro Evo. Wow.

Quite gracious of you to not mention the thrashing you gave me in our Melbourne vs. Adelaide game. :p

Cian

01-10-2009, 12:38 PM

I knew supporting Arsenal would get to you eventually...

Ooohhhh, harsh.

I just had a nice runny shit a few minutes ago so that should end this little stomach bug of mine. Care for a raping Jay? :p

texta

01-10-2009, 12:58 PM

Just picked this up from JB for $70 with a trade in and now going home to sit in my underwear and play. Victory!

Jay

01-10-2009, 01:12 PM

Yes, but when will you get some time with the game?

autologic

01-10-2009, 07:07 PM

Installing on my 360's hdd as I type. I'm rather excited to play, since I haven't even touched the demo of this. Unfortunately I won't be able to play over Live until Sunday because I'm perilously close to exceeding my download limit. At least I'll be able to familiarise myself with the game before hitting up Live. I'm also happy to see Bernabeu included as a free download, I'd always thought that was a very strange omission in 09.

Spazzallo

01-10-2009, 07:40 PM

Loving this so far. Losing a player hurts a lot more this year than last year it feels. Last year if you lost a player the computer would switch to a very attacking game style leaving them open.

Only gripe is the ref needs to keep his God damn whistle in his mouth!

texta

01-10-2009, 07:45 PM

My biggest gripe is that they've got Wayne Rooney on the front and as the "loading guy". **** that shit.

autologic

01-10-2009, 11:38 PM

Played half a dozen games or so in Manager Mode as Man City, loving it so far. The 360 degree dribbling doesn't feel radically different like I thought it would, but it does slightly change everything to make it all feel a little more realistic.

RunningMild

02-10-2009, 02:18 AM

Quite gracious of you to not mention the thrashing you gave me in our Melbourne vs. Adelaide game. :p

That gives me an idea. I feel like having a bunch of Live games, but just to make things interesting (and remove all the 'wah everyone plays as Barca/Man U/Real' complaints) we should make it 'A-League teams only'.

If you feel you've got what it takes to face the might of Perth Glory, PM me your username and I'll add you.

EDIT: I also hope everyone ponied up 80pts for the Spanish Mexican commentary track. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLL! :p

Blue

02-10-2009, 04:39 AM

What my friends and I do, to avoid repetitive team selection, is pick a star rating at the team select screen, and then we each keep pressing random, selecting whichever teams of that rating appear first. That way, we'll be playing with two, say, four-star squads that we have no idea about, or having an even 2 1/2 star tussle. It not only keeps things fairly even, but also more interesting.

Spazzallo

02-10-2009, 01:05 PM

That gives me an idea. I feel like having a bunch of Live games, but just to make things interesting (and remove all the 'wah everyone plays as Barca/Man U/Real' complaints) we should make it 'A-League teams only'.

If you feel you've got what it takes to face the might of Perth Glory, PM me your username and I'll add you.

EDIT: I also hope everyone ponied up 80pts for the Spanish Mexican commentary track. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLL! :p

I'm in! Key me in for Victory!

Jickle

02-10-2009, 01:08 PM

I'm hoping Grimace will take up the mantle for Adelaide United, he's the best chance we've got. :p

autologic

02-10-2009, 01:29 PM

I'll do the Jets :)

texta

02-10-2009, 02:36 PM

PS3 Fifa owners interested in some online action post here:
http://www.hyper.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=19472

RunningMild

02-10-2009, 03:20 PM

I'm in! Key me in for Victory!

I already sent you a request (my username is Kalmageddon2007). I'm relying on you to pass on the names of the other FIFA players if they don't PM me themselves/put it in their sig. ;)

Probably a 'duh!' question, but would it be possible/easier to start up our own league for this?

Spazzallo

02-10-2009, 08:12 PM

I already sent you a request (my username is Kalmageddon2007). I'm relying on you to pass on the names of the other FIFA players if they don't PM me themselves/put it in their sig. ;)

Probably a 'duh!' question, but would it be possible/easier to start up our own league for this?

Should be. I was wondering who the hell Kalmageddon2007 was! :p Thought it was another hopeless random from Halo :P.

I wasn't sure if you wanted me to set up a league Mr_M so I did it, hope that's alright.

To join go to 'Join League' and type in the following information when you search

League Name: Hyper League
Abbreviation: Hyper

The password for the league is blau.

I've set it to 4 games against each person, I hope that's alright :).'

Pick whatever A LEAGUE team you like, it doesn't matter if we have more than one of the same team.

JOIN! GOGO!

pezhead015

02-10-2009, 08:33 PM

I'm hoping Grimace will take up the mantle for Adelaide United, he's the best chance we've got. :p

We should make a league? I'm gonna buy the game over the weekend. I'd love to be Adelaide :)

Spazzallo

02-10-2009, 08:56 PM

League made, see above! :P

I'm already having people who's favourite team are the likes of Arsenal or Chelsea switching their team to Real Madrid! So ****ing frustrating!

Cian

02-10-2009, 10:12 PM

I joined but I picked Melbourne Victory too. Damn...

Spazzallo

02-10-2009, 10:13 PM

I joined but I picked Melbourne Victory too. Damn...

I can feel the sincerity in your text >_>.

Jay

02-10-2009, 10:14 PM

I'd join but Victory is gone and I can't stomach the thought of being anyone else.

Spazzallo

02-10-2009, 10:32 PM

Go Victory nub, Victorian pride!

Cian

02-10-2009, 10:53 PM

I can feel the sincerity in your text >_>.

I am sincere....they're all equally shit.

Spazzallo

02-10-2009, 11:05 PM

I am sincere....they're all equally shit.

Sif you call the premier of the country ranked 16th in the world shit! :D

I have played one lagless game so far :( why cant EA make a system where it TRIES to match you against local people first :(.

Spazzallo

03-10-2009, 03:13 AM

Some good games tonight Mr_M! Wish I could cross as accurately as you can :(. Bad error by your goal keeper :P.

RunningMild

03-10-2009, 03:23 AM

Some good games tonight Mr_M! Wish I could cross as accurately as you can :(. Bad error by your goal keeper :P.

Yeah, I was holding Y to make him dive on the ball but it cued up a throughball. That's what caused that match losing error. :(

But I agree, they were both great games and I'm just glad to know that I can go blow-for-blow with Hyper's best. It gives me a nice confidence boost heading into our A-League league... ;)

I may set a man mark on Ronaldinho next time. He scored every single goal in both games! :p

Also, do you turn your mic off during games? I wasn't hearing anything so I turned mine off as well in case it was causing a distraction.

Go Victory nub, Victorian pride!

So I have to single-handedly defend WA's pride against the Vics? :p

Spazzallo

03-10-2009, 03:33 AM

I turned my mic off because my sister was about to grab a knife from downstairs to stab me and make me shut up :P.

If you target Ronaldihno, Pato will kill you! Just a friendly warning! :D

Also just curious, where were you playing Kaka and Ronaldo? I noticed Kaka pretty far back most of the time. He was awesome as an insanely fast striker in 09. Now give him back!

Rambo

03-10-2009, 04:02 AM

Have we already got a Glory team? If not I'd love to join, even playing with a non WA team.

Spazzallo

03-10-2009, 04:10 AM

Go for your life mate. I'll edit my post to say that it doesn't matter if we have doubles of teams.

Shadow Knight

03-10-2009, 06:50 AM

man i'm loving this game. Has anyone got Live Season 2.0? Is it worth it? I got a spare 800 points (well 1300 actually) lying in my account doing nohtiing and am tempted to make the dive.

Also, i'll join that league. PHOENIX ALL THE WAY!! (If only we still had Smeltz. :()

If anyone wants to hit me up a game, add rewKay.

Cian

03-10-2009, 10:49 AM

But I agree, they were both great games and I'm just glad to know that I can go blow-for-blow with Hyper's best.

I challenge you to a duel!

(also looking for Pro Club members)

autologic

03-10-2009, 10:57 AM

I bought live season last year and I didn't regret it. I like the variation in stats for playing online, makes things a little more interesting.

I joined the league as the Jets, too.

proofreeder

03-10-2009, 11:56 AM

I'm greatly enjoying this game also. So pretty to play. 360 degrees and the jostling system have taken the game to the next step. Just wish I had more time to play it! But have some time off soon.

For anyone looking to buy, as I've posted previously, EB offers pricematch and $25 off the next EA 10 game. Can give to a friend to get into Fifa also!

Edit: As another poster posted, best price I could find was Kmart for $86 but they also had it for PSP for $40. With EBs pricematch I got both for $101.

Tried a couple of games of this on live last night. First game was sweet, I won 5-1 even though I was pretty terrible, the other guy was worse (maybe suffering from lag). Second game really shitted me off though, I lost 2-0 and everytime I tried to dodge out the way when he went into a tackle, the lag meant I was too slow and lost the ball in dangerous areas.

I'm only on live for a 1 month trial, but is it always like this? Can you choose lagfree games? And if you play people in Australia, will that mean the game is lag-free?

Spazzallo

03-10-2009, 12:03 PM

I challenge you to a duel!

(also looking for Pro Club members)

I'm in!

Ranked matches frustrating like last year when wankers leave early :( you get no points if someone quits before the rematch screen. Sigh.

Spazzallo

03-10-2009, 12:18 PM

Everyone already in the league please do not play games yet as we cant invite people once the league has started. We will start games on the 10th of October so please register before then! ;)

RunningMild

03-10-2009, 12:45 PM

Also just curious, where were you playing Kaka and Ronaldo? I noticed Kaka pretty far back most of the time. He was awesome as an insanely fast striker in 09. Now give him back!

In the first game I played Ronaldo as a striker and Kaka as a Right Midfielder. In the second game I tried Ronaldo at Attacking Midfielder and Kaka was in the same spot IIRC. Real Madrid's lineup is extremely flexible though, so sometimes I have Ronaldo on the wing and Kaka at AMF, or if I play my 4-3-3 (which I might try next time just for something different) Kaka can play as a Wing Forward, and so on.

You want Kaka back? How about Kaka for Huntelaar? Nah screw that, Kaka's too important to my team! :p

I'm only on live for a 1 month trial, but is it always like this? Can you choose lagfree games? And if you play people in Australia, will that mean the game is lag-free?

It was lag-free when Spaz and I played.

man i'm loving this game. Has anyone got Live Season 2.0? Is it worth it? I got a spare 800 points (well 1300 actually) lying in my account doing nothing and am tempted to make the dive.

Get the Spanish Mexican commentary for 80 points! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAL!!!!!!!!

autologic

03-10-2009, 01:39 PM

I'm only on live for a 1 month trial, but is it always like this? Can you choose lagfree games? And if you play people in Australia, will that mean the game is lag-free?
I rarely found lag to be a major problem with 09. I would get the odd game where it was bad but for the most part things were fine, and I don't have a great connection either.

Anyway, I played a couple of online games today. Won them both by comfortable margins, although my opponent wasn't too flash.

REQUIEM

03-10-2009, 02:10 PM

I rarely found lag to be a major problem with 09. I would get the odd game where it was bad but for the most part things were fine, and I don't have a great connection either.

Anyway, I played a couple of online games today. Won them both by comfortable margins, although my opponent wasn't too flash.

Maybe he had LAG?? serious comment. I dont play fighting games online as its pointless nowadays, Australia PINGS are not considered. ( not that I expect them to be)

pezhead015

03-10-2009, 08:01 PM

Okay I joined the league. My handle is xbis. I chose Adelaide United :)

Spazzallo

03-10-2009, 08:20 PM

Awesome, we have 6 people so far, hurry up and join people!

pezhead015

03-10-2009, 10:28 PM

Can I invite a friend who isn't on Hyper? Its an aussie guy I know in real life who I played heaps of Fifa09 with. He puts up a good fight.

RunningMild

04-10-2009, 03:02 AM

Can I invite a friend who isn't on Hyper? Its an aussie guy I know in real life who I played heaps of Fifa09 with. He puts up a good fight.

Who's he gonna play as? Not another Melbourne Victory I hope...

Spazzallo

04-10-2009, 03:12 AM

I don't see why not. It will bring numbers so far up to seven. It'd be nice if he picked a team we didn't have yet but he can choose whatever he likes.

I'm starting to get frustrated by this game, the flaws and bugs are getting to me >_<. Playing in the third division of a league on World Class is very bloody difficult, not helped by the fact your players can barely play one and a half games in a row without being absolutely stuffed, making you rely on players with ratings no higher than 40! I know it is supposed to be difficult but what hope do you have when you're playing hacks on the field every third week combined with the fact it is impossible to sign players until you get a decent reputation!

grimace06

04-10-2009, 04:28 AM

If someone has a spare month card of Live to swing my way (I'll repay the favor when I get one) I'll join the League too.

Rambo

04-10-2009, 05:49 AM

Save a spot for me! I have to wait till 5th October to get off this capped internet.

And I also have to buy the game >_>

Spazzallo

04-10-2009, 01:07 PM

If someone has a spare month card of Live to swing my way (I'll repay the favor when I get one) I'll join the League too.

I have a 48 hour one if you'd like to use it to just register for now until you can get online if you like.

Save a spot for me! I have to wait till 5th October to get off this capped internet.

And I also have to buy the game >_>

We're closing entries on Saturday so you should be fine :).

Rambo

05-10-2009, 02:39 PM

Cool, just bought the game, I'll be on the league in a bit.

Bokracroc

06-10-2009, 03:21 AM

I have '07, is it worth upgrading to '10?

RunningMild

06-10-2009, 03:36 AM

As a person who didn't even like FIFA until the 08 instalment on PSP, my answer is: hell yeah!

proofreeder

06-10-2009, 10:16 AM

I have '07, is it worth upgrading to '10?

Yes. '07 was crap. Now it's good.

grimace06

06-10-2009, 03:39 PM

Just had a couple of games with Spazz, lost the first one 5-2 (Milan players are brutes - don't try and play physical with Sevilla :p)

Second match was an epic (Man U vs Chelsea) where Spazz led 3-0 early and I clawed it back to 4-4 before prevailing on penalties.

It scares me to think how Cian is with the Gunners in this game.

I heart Fifa :p

Spazzallo

06-10-2009, 03:44 PM

:D Pato ftw, running down the pitch!

That second game was insane. I thought I had you so early. Even when it was 4-2 I figured I couldn't possible lose. Biggest bloody momentum shift ever!

Cian is insane. He thrashed me :(.

Cian

06-10-2009, 07:14 PM

It scares me to think how Cian is with the Gunners in this game.

I heart Fifa :p

Get some Gold and find out :)

I'm not as good as last time we played but I'm still a worthy opponent...I think.

Just about to finish manager mode, still hooked but the EA servers are slowly killing me.

Bokracroc

07-10-2009, 04:04 AM

Yes. '07 was crap. Now it's good.
Really? I didn't know since the only one I played before that was Fifa '99 on my PC >.>

Thraxas

07-10-2009, 09:25 AM

You guys still want people to join the league? I'm off to buy this right now :)

proofreeder

07-10-2009, 11:05 AM

Yes. '07 was crap. Now it's good.

Really? I didn't know since the only one I played before that was Fifa '99 on my PC >.>

Definitely. One of the few EA series that actually improves (well, it has been recently). Must buy for me, and I wouldn't have touched '07 with a stick. Not even a very long one.

Spazzallo

07-10-2009, 11:19 AM

You guys still want people to join the league? I'm off to buy this right now :)

Yes please need more!

RunningMild

07-10-2009, 02:04 PM

Definitely. One of the few EA series that actually improves (well, it has been recently). Must buy for me, and I wouldn't have touched '07 with a stick. Not even a very long one.

Quoted for emphasis.

Spazzallo

07-10-2009, 03:12 PM

I just got called a homosexual in French because I decided to tie a game where i stole an equaliser in the 90th minute :( lol.

Spazzallo

08-10-2009, 07:11 PM

Gameface is finally up and working! Finding the link is an absolute bitch on EA's horrendous website so heres the link to save you beating around the bush.

http://www.eafootballworld.com/en_GB/avatar-head-display-program/head-creator/gameFaceCreatorCanvas2

Also entries to the Hyper FIFA competition close Saturday night, so make sure you get in!

RunningMild

08-10-2009, 07:23 PM

I lol'd when I saw that someone had signed up as North Queensland Fury. Anyone who loses to that team must commit hara-kiri. :p

Cian

08-10-2009, 07:30 PM

I lol'd when I saw that someone had signed up as North Queensland Fury. Anyone who loses to that team must commit hara-kiri. :p

You might regret saying that.

lex3191

08-10-2009, 07:42 PM

aw man i was going to sign up to the hyper league and my fluffing xbox RROD today. have fun gents

Spazzallo

08-10-2009, 10:15 PM

aw man i was going to sign up to the hyper league and my fluffing xbox RROD today. have fun gents

If there is somebody you trust on the board they can sign up for you. I can too if you can trust me :p. I think you can invite halfway through a comp I just haven't figured out how yet ><.

Cian

08-10-2009, 10:31 PM

Anyone want to make a GameFace for me? :(

The program keeps crashing my computer and I want that damn achievement...

lex3191

08-10-2009, 10:38 PM

If there is somebody you trust on the board they can sign up for you. I can too if you can trust me :p. I think you can invite halfway through a comp I just haven't figured out how yet ><.

thanks man. i guess i will spectate from the sidelines until i get my xbox back then i will see

Spazzallo

08-10-2009, 10:39 PM

Anyone want to make a GameFace for me? :(

The program keeps crashing my computer and I want that damn achievement...

I'll do it for you. PM pictures and login details.

Cian

08-10-2009, 10:41 PM

I'll do it for you. PM pictures and login details.

Cheers. I'll PM you tomorrow with the goods. :)

RunningMild

08-10-2009, 11:04 PM

You might regret saying that.

I'm sharpening my katana as we speak... :p

Spazzallo

09-10-2009, 11:58 PM

Everybody tomorrow is your last chance to join the Hyper league before games get under way! Make sure you sign up tomorrow! Also pretty sure we don't have a Sydney team yet but who the hell would want to play as a team representing the worst city on the planet? :P

RunningMild

10-10-2009, 04:43 AM

Also pretty sure we don't have a Sydney team yet but who the hell would want to play as a team representing the worst city on the planet? :P

I'd love it if someone stepped up and said "ME!" and then signed up to play as Sydney. :p

They have a pretty good team though. I think all the A-League teams are better in this game than the previous ones (mainly because they don't seem to be scaling down the stats anymore, ie. playing in a lower standard league means your physical stats and finishing are automatically a lower standard too), so there's no better time to play as them!

REQUIEM

10-10-2009, 09:02 PM

Im loving this game. I havent played a soccor game for over 3 years but fifa 10 is bringing back the playability to football games.

Cian

10-10-2009, 09:03 PM

Let's get this league started tonight!

(I want that 10G achievement to hit 700)

:p

grimace06

10-10-2009, 09:23 PM

Someone send me a 48 hour trial and I'll be up for some games :p

Spazzallo

11-10-2009, 04:49 PM

Cian & I played our 4 matches today. Two draws and a win a piece. Pretty exciting (if very annoying!) stuff.

http://cdn.content.easports.com/media2/fifa10/6269739/742A0001_2_JPEG_SCREENSHOT_stN.jpg

http://cdn.content.easports.com/media2/fifa10/6269739/742A0001_1_JPEG_SCREENSHOT_ZnF.jpg

It's these kind of baby faces that make me grow a beard every few weeks!

grimace06

11-10-2009, 04:58 PM

Is that game face program big in size?

Spazzallo

11-10-2009, 05:03 PM

Nah just an utter pain in the arse to use. Their are plenty of problems with it, probably best to have an FAQ open as you do it.

Jickle

12-10-2009, 01:05 AM

Jay suffered his first loss in FIFA 10 tonight, to me; Jickle. He destroyed me in the previous game 7-2 so I can hardly brag, but still....

I'm still not very good at it, but holy shit I love this game.

Jay

12-10-2009, 01:30 AM

Yes, your Kaizer Chiefs did me in 2 - 1 (Orlando Pirates ftr). It is such a sublime game. Amazing.

Rambo

12-10-2009, 01:43 AM

Ok, so who is playing who? Does it say it on the league table or do we have to decide ourselves?

Spazzallo

12-10-2009, 01:45 AM

You get 4 matches against each opponent. They can be played whenever you like :).

Blue

12-10-2009, 02:17 AM

Can't use mother-****ing Game Face on Mac. What a load of shit.

RunningMild

12-10-2009, 04:03 AM

I just played a few online games. The lag is almost unbearable at times, but overall it's quite fun and playable.

My last match was pretty much lag-free so it was heaps of fun. I scored the first two goals, then my opponent came back and tied it at 2-2. After a scoreless overtime, we went to a penalty shootout which I won 6-5! You should have seen my post match celebration. :p

@ Spazz, there was some bad static on tonight's chat so I could barely understand what you were saying. What did you mean when you wanted '10 guys in the same room' or something? Is that party play or a FIFA exclusive thing?

Jay

12-10-2009, 07:53 AM

Cian

12-10-2009, 09:34 AM

Not impressed with that achievent >:(

All that effort to stay up late and the ****ing thing didn't unlock. God damn it, I'll organize another attempt for this day next week if anyone here is interested in 25G.

Pauly

12-10-2009, 09:41 AM

Cian you're already on 700/1000. What a freak :p

Not sure if I'll pick this up yet. Is it a big jump from '09? Because I'm still happy to just keep that. Although if there are frequent games being organised then that is a good reason to upgrade.

Jay

12-10-2009, 10:08 AM

It leaves 09 in the shade, and that's saying something because 09 was excellent. This is the best football game I've ever played. Including Pro Evo 4 (I'm going to hell for saying that).

Cian

12-10-2009, 10:11 AM

Cian you're already on 700/1000. What a freak :p

I'm a slut for gamerscore, everyone knows that :)

Spazzallo

12-10-2009, 12:16 PM

@ Spazz, there was some bad static on tonight's chat so I could barely understand what you were saying. What did you mean when you wanted '10 guys in the same room' or something? Is that party play or a FIFA exclusive thing?

It was a 10vs10 game to get the achievement. Sorry for not speaking loud mate, it is very hard for me to talk past 12 o'clock with people sleeping T_T.

REQUIEM

12-10-2009, 01:16 PM

Im loving this on 360 at the moment. Best soccor game since sensible soccor on Amiga.

Edit: IMO.

RunningMild

12-10-2009, 02:59 PM

It was a 10vs10 game to get the achievement. Sorry for not speaking loud mate, it is very hard for me to talk past 12 o'clock with people sleeping T_T.

I understand that, but it was also cutting out and going static which didn't help. :p

On another note, one of my online games was against a guy who was playing as Leeds United. I won 2-0 as Real Madrid, but he played well and had some good shots on goal. I have to admit, I have a certain respect for people who play as their favourite team no matter how shit they are.

But in the next game, the opponent's fave team came up as Everton and he played as Chelsea instead! And to make matters worse, he had the nerve to call himself 'toffeeman'! Toffeeman my arse! I decided that I had to beat this guy for all those true fans who stick by their favourite team, and fortunately I won 2-0. :)

Also, I dunno if it was the same game, but one of them was raining so heavily that my opponent had a shot on goal, it was on target and a guaranteed goal, but the ball slowed down and stopped before going in! I saw a video like that on Youtube once, but I never thought I'd see it in a videogame... :p

Cian

12-10-2009, 06:33 PM

North Queensland Fury are the worst team in the world.

****ing bullshit.

Spazzallo

12-10-2009, 07:02 PM

Good game between me and Mr_M. I wasn't impressed when my goalkeeper dragged the ball over the line though! What the hell was he thinking! o_o

RunningMild

12-10-2009, 07:14 PM

Good game between me and Mr_M. I wasn't impressed when my goalkeeper dragged the ball over the line though! What the hell was he thinking! o_o

I was just glad to get my first goal of the tournament. :p

Played Cian 4 times, got 2 points of a possible 12 and I was lucky to get those two. I have brought shame to my city. :(

Spazzallo

12-10-2009, 07:18 PM

Perth is considered a city?! :P

Cian

12-10-2009, 07:27 PM

I was just glad to get my first goal of the tournament. :p

Played Cian 4 times, got 2 points of a possible 12 and I was lucky to get those two. I have brought shame to my city. :(

You deserved the first draw but I don't know how I didn't score in the last game....oh yeah, Robbie Fowler.

RunningMild

12-10-2009, 07:28 PM

Perth is considered a city?! :P

Apparently. ;)

You deserved the first draw but I don't know how I didn't score in the last game....oh yeah, Robbie Fowler.

I'm not sure how I didn't score in the third game either... football can be a cruel mistress sometimes. :p

EDIT: Just noticed that you have FIFA 10 and 09 on your gamercard. Now that's commitment. :D

RunningMild

13-10-2009, 01:52 AM

The more I play this game online, the more I realise how bad I am at it. :p

Spazzallo

13-10-2009, 12:59 PM

Sigh I have met the requirements for the achievments Experimental and Good Form and got neither. GG EA for releasing a buggy game!

grimace06

13-10-2009, 01:30 PM

Sigh I have met the requirements for the achievments Experimental and Good Form and got neither. GG EA for releasing a buggy game!

Same here - but I'm sure we'll get a patch and they'll pop.

Bokracroc

13-10-2009, 01:55 PM

EA are being dicks and aren't sending me password recovery for my EA account (I have it on Autosign on the 360) so I can't GameFace >:{

Cian

13-10-2009, 05:39 PM

Sigh I have met the requirements for the achievments Experimental and Good Form and got neither. GG EA for releasing a buggy game!

Welcome to my world.

I was furious the other night when the club achievement didn't unlock. The entire online system is ****ed, that's why I'm staying well away from ranked games until it's patched.

Bokracroc

14-10-2009, 02:52 AM

EA.
Isn't ****ing.
Sending my.
****ing password.
Recovery.
**** you.

fearofthesky

14-10-2009, 08:36 PM

OK, I've got this game in the mail from Playasia Less than 60 posted :D. Soon, I'll be bringing my (very limited) skills into the Hyper arena.

Jay telling me how good it is tipped me over the post. If it can convert one major Pro Evo fan, then it may convert another too.

Jay

14-10-2009, 08:46 PM

Spazzallo

14-10-2009, 11:08 PM

It really isn't that much harder to sign players. Just up their wage and they'll join any team like the sell outs most of them really are =/.

Had an interesting glitch in be a pro mode tonight. My player got sent off but the game continued with my player still on the field. Then at the next passage of play he disappeared and the game forced me to watch the rest of the game ><.

EDIT: Hurray! Finished the season with 27 red cards :). Never playing Be-A-Pro mode ever again!

Bokracroc

15-10-2009, 01:41 AM

Had an interesting glitch in be a pro mode tonight. My player got sent off but the game continued with my player still on the field. Then at the next passage of play he disappeared and the game forced me to watch the rest of the game ><.

EDIT: Hurray! Finished the season with 27 red cards :). Never playing Be-A-Pro mode ever again!
I have to force myself not to press the Slide tackle button.

EA SPORTS worldland thing still isn't sending me a Password recovery. What the shit can I do?

Spazzallo

15-10-2009, 01:45 AM

Well I did it on purpose :P. Just start a game, run up to a random player and tackle him for instant red. Do that 27 times = achievment for not simming a game in Be-A-Pro mode, the most horrible game mode ever!

You sure the email address you gave them is correct? Otherwise try calling them I suppose =/ or emailing customer support.

Blue

15-10-2009, 01:48 AM

Bokracroc

15-10-2009, 01:57 AM

You sure the email address you gave them is correct? Otherwise try calling them I suppose =/ or emailing customer support.
It's correct, when I ask them to send an email it doesn't bitch that there's no account linked to the email address.

Spazzallo

15-10-2009, 02:03 AM

I haven't grabbed it yet, but is it easier to score from set pieces such as corners and free kicks? In our year with 09, none of us has ever scored from a free kick, and very rarely scored from a corner. It's also quite hard to score with a header off a lofted cross. It's better than having a set piece mean a guaranteed goal like it used to be back in 03, but it would be nice if occasionally you could actually score from one. So, how is it in 10, anyway?

I think that set pieces are hard to score from in 09 due to the lack of any meters, as opposed to FIFA 03, which had very specific on-screen indicators that pretty much gave you too much information.

Corners are very hard to score from, especially on World Class and Legendary. Had to actually drop the difficulty to get a couple of accomplishments for my virtual pro.

Free kicks on the other hand are very easy once you get used to them. I either hit the post or get them in 90% of the time at realistic distances.

Believe me though, if every set piece was a guaranteed goal in this game every game would end at least 5-3 because the refs are nazis!

It's correct, when I ask them to send an email it doesn't bitch that there's no account linked to the email address.

Definitely should call them then =/.

Blue

15-10-2009, 02:09 AM

Hm, I guess it's good that free kicks are easier to score from, because it gives a harsher penalty for fouling just outside the box. As it stands now, we'll happily mow our opponents down, because we know the free kick really means a goal kick.

Bokracroc

15-10-2009, 02:13 AM

Believe me though, if every set piece was a guaranteed goal in this game every game would end at least 5-3 because the refs are nazis!
I haven't had too many problems with the refs in this and half the time I seem to push and shove people over, getting away with it.

Definitely should call them then =/.
I'd email them but when I went to email them through the Customer Support site, I needed an EA Account to send them an email :|

Spazzallo

15-10-2009, 02:23 AM

I haven't had too many problems with the refs in this and half the time I seem to push and shove people over, getting away with it.

I'd email them but when I went to email them through the Customer Support site, I needed an EA Account to send them an email :|

T_T No idea man :(.

Hm, I guess it's good that free kicks are easier to score from, because it gives a harsher penalty for fouling just outside the box. As it stands now, we'll happily mow our opponents down, because we know the free kick really means a goal kick.

This is very true. I used to always hack people in 09 knowing that 90% of the time you could get away with just a red card, though in this game it is very dangerous. But remember all those times in FIFA 09 where you could use the jostle tackle on someone as you were running to them and bowl them over? That's a free kick, as well as pretty much any other tackle which brings your opponent to the ground ><.

Tackling from the side is hard :(.

Bokracroc

15-10-2009, 02:31 AM

I assume the ref turns more and more into Hitler the higher the difficulty is then?

Also, failing Rainbow Flicks is awesome.

RunningMild

15-10-2009, 03:28 AM

Jay telling me how good it is tipped me over the post. If it can convert one major Pro Evo fan, then it may convert another too.

I thought proofreader would have been the one to convince you, if anything. He is the most militant Pro Evo fan on this forum! Sorry, was. :D

This is very true. I used to always hack people in 09 knowing that 90% of the time you could get away with just a red card, though in this game it is very dangerous.

Just a red card? What the?

@ Blue- the first game I won against Spaz, one goal was from a cross and I think the other was from a corner. In our only league game so far, Spaz scored a goal from a free kick. As Melbourne Victory ffs. So it is definitely possible. ;)

I used to bang in free kicks all the time in FIFA 08, but this game is really making me unlearn what I had learned. I'm very good at crosses and fairly good at corners though. :p

Blue

15-10-2009, 06:21 AM

Well, I guess it makes it more interesting if you need to be more careful with conservative tackles. As long as it's not ****ing Pro Evo, where you need to position yourself and time your button press perfectly or get ****ing red-carded. Bit of an exaggeration I guess, but only a slight one. Tackling in Pro Evo is a bitch.

Spazzallo

15-10-2009, 11:45 AM

I
Just a red card? What the?

Well you'd be silly to hack from behind any earlier then the 80th minute so it ended up being worthwhile ;).

proofreeder

15-10-2009, 11:53 AM

I'm currently writing a review of this game and am finding it daunting to log enough time with it to do the readership (and the game) justice. It is such a massive game. I want to at least log four or five seasons in manager mode alone, which is just a ridiculous time sink. Better stop posting and get back to playing...

Aww, poor little Jay has to play Fifa too much. My heart aches...

I thought proofreader would have been the one to convince you, if anything. He is the most militant Pro Evo fan on this forum! Sorry, was.

Yeah, nobody ever listens to me...

RunningMild

15-10-2009, 01:10 PM

Tackling in Pro Evo is a bitch.

Mainly due to the lack of a jockey button. :p

pezhead015

15-10-2009, 03:07 PM

When I try to buy livescore or whatever its called it says its free then I get an error code. Anyone else having this problem?

Thraxas

15-10-2009, 10:13 PM

I've got tomorrow off :D Does anybody in the league fancy earning some easy points playing me? I'm rubbish at this game :(

RunningMild

15-10-2009, 10:51 PM

I've got tomorrow off :D Does anybody in the league fancy earning some easy points playing me? I'm rubbish at this game :(

I guess so. What time will you be on? We should play all four games in a row if neither of us has anything better to do. :p

proofreeder

16-10-2009, 01:34 AM

I'm not in the league, but I'd be interested in a game tomorrow if one of you two are free during the day. My one month subscriptions about to run out for Gold and I'd like to know if Gold's worth it just for Fifa games with Australians. I can't stand lag, I need complete control.

RunningMild

16-10-2009, 03:18 AM

Thraxas

16-10-2009, 07:47 AM

I guess so. What time will you be on? We should play all four games in a row if neither of us has anything better to do. :p

I decided after my horrendous work week, that I'm just going to slum it in front of the xbox for most of the day, so pretty much any time. I definitely don't have anything better to do today :D

EDIT:
I'll also be up for a game proofreader.

proofreeder

16-10-2009, 01:12 PM

Cool. I'm on for the next 2 hours, then I'm away for a bit, then I'll try to come on again tonight at maybe midnight SA time if one of you are up for a game. I've never used gold before, do I need to know your online "handles" or whatever you call it?

Jay

16-10-2009, 01:13 PM

To set up private matches they need to be on your friends list and you need to be on theirs.

Thraxas

16-10-2009, 03:51 PM

I added you proofreader :)

I just played my 4 league games with Mr_M. We drew 2 and won one each. Although, Mr_M was very unlucky not to have won them all. He outplayed me for most of all the matches, I just got lucky.

My favourite game was the 3-2 game which I lost.

RunningMild

16-10-2009, 04:07 PM

You're better than you give yourself credit for... either that or I'm worse than I thought. :p

Also, you should have heard the expletives I was throwing at Sterjovski for all the golden chances he ****ed up. :D

Thraxas

16-10-2009, 04:40 PM

Also, you should have heard the expletives I was throwing at Sterjovski for all the golden chances he ****ed up. :D

That open goal where he hit the post was unbelievable. ;)

How come I didn't get the Fifa Fever achievement for beating you over live? :(

proofreeder

17-10-2009, 12:40 PM

My membership is about to expire for gold, need a game of fifa before it does to see if it's lag free playing locally and therefore worth renewing. Lemme know if you're interested.

RunningMild

17-10-2009, 02:25 PM

My membership is about to expire for gold, need a game of fifa before it does to see if it's lag free playing locally and therefore worth renewing. Lemme know if you're interested.

When will you be available? Gimme a list of times and I'll see what I can do.

proofreeder

17-10-2009, 03:11 PM

Well, the deadlines off now coz Thraxas very generously gave me another 1 month membership. Thanks Mr M I'll take this to PM, I got your other message, thanks.

Ashmaran

17-10-2009, 05:46 PM

I've been playing an A-League tournament against the AI. Playing as Sydney FC it is sooo hard to score. So far I've won 3 games, lost 2 and drawn like 6 (4 of those draws were nil all).

Spazzallo

17-10-2009, 05:54 PM

I've been doing League 2 in the English league which is similar and it just RIDICULOUS how shit some of the passes and shots are.

Jay

18-10-2009, 10:36 AM

Jickle and I played a couple of games last night, and our second game was a classic. Parma versus Bari in the Italian League (why not?), 0 - 0 at half time, uninspiring would be a kind way to describe the first half. Enter the Jickle, who promptly smashes two quick goals early after the restart, the second of which was a sublime chip over the onrushing keeper whilst being jostled by two defenders. Things looked grim, but I haven't had a bad parma yet, and I wasn't about to go chicken (was that gag hammy or cheesy? I'll let you decide). Got one back quickly, then at the 73rd minute levelled things up and sent it to extra time. Jickle hit the upright in the 90th minute, but no dice.

Extra time saw multiple substitutions but no goals until - sweet, sweet timing - a low drive to the keeper's left made it 3 - 2 to Parma in the 120th minute. Ha ha! Sweet! :)

RunningMild

18-10-2009, 01:12 PM

but I haven't had a bad parma yet, and I wasn't about to go chicken (was that gag hammy or cheesy? I'll let you decide).

You are the master of awful gags. :p

Jay

18-10-2009, 01:17 PM

Haha, I reckon aub's got me covered, but he's not as cheap as me. I'm more scattergun - fire off as many as I can think of and hopefully one of them hits occasionally. Aub is a more considered punster. :)

I should use this approach when picking up. Just ask everyone, eventually someone will be desperate/drunk enough to take me up on the offer. :p

BTW, has anyone come across any of the bugs that supposedly riddle Manager Mode? I've been lucky so far, but I hear there are a few.

autologic

18-10-2009, 01:29 PM

Yeah I've heard a few stories of Manager Mode bugs but I haven't really encountered any. I haven't really spent a huge amount of time in Manager Mode, though.

Jay

18-10-2009, 01:32 PM

Mostly related to players being sold from your roster without you doing it, and without you receiving any compensation. That and players fatiguing ridiculously quickly. But I've not seen them myself. It locked up on me once, but that happens with most games at some point.

fearofthesky

18-10-2009, 05:35 PM

Things looked grim, but I haven't had a bad parma yet, and I wasn't about to go chicken (was that gag hammy or cheesy? I'll let you decide).

I LOL'ed! I love me a bad pun or 3. Playing the demo and hoping the real deal arrives tomorrow...

grimace06

18-10-2009, 06:06 PM

Spazzallo

18-10-2009, 06:23 PM

Yeah, the fatigue in Manager Mode is ridiculous.

I agree. Playing with a league three team and a player can't run out two games in a row. Basically need a second 11 :(.

Cian

18-10-2009, 06:30 PM

The more I play, the more flaws I see. Unlike Fifa 09 where it looks months to fully appreciate just how good it was.

What exactly hve EA been doing for the past year? Hitting the post is still far too common. Slide tackling decisions by the referee seem to be made at random. The menus are very unresponsive. Online modes are unplayable most of the time. Corner kicks are a waste if time. Direct free kicks are way too easy. One on one shooting is far too inconsistent.

And worst of all; the goalkeepers. Hold onto the ball you useless ****!!! Most of the goals I concede are directly because of shitty goalkeeper AI. Not holding onto the ball, punching straight to an opposing striker, rushing off the line...so frustrating.

I'm hoping for a more polished Fifa next year.

Jay

18-10-2009, 09:16 PM

There has been a bit of backlash about this title in the last few days, as people spend more time with it. I still think it is superior to 09, but I'm probably only 12 hours in.

Has anyone created a set piece yet?

Spazzallo

18-10-2009, 09:33 PM

I've tried but results are way too inconsistant. You have to time your pass perfectly as well so it's not really worth the effort.

Didn't get the achievment for winning 3 trophies in a season. Get ****ed EA. I won 4 trophies in the season as well :(. What's the bloody point of cup games when there is no reward? You don't even get any money! May as well just lose round 1 from now on.

List of manager mode bugs: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?p=2451170

Blue

18-10-2009, 11:00 PM

I've found it to be an improvement. 360-degree control is a revelation, and has made attacking play much more fluid. I also scored a headed goal from a corner, which I didn't do at all in 09. Admittedly, the AI was on intermediate, but it was good to get a header on target at least.

I'm not so sure about a backlash. I don't really know how much I can expect from a soccer game. The AI will never be perfect. I'm very happy with the demo, and will be trading Fallout 3 in tomorrow for the full game.

lex3191

18-10-2009, 11:23 PM

i have found the game a real improvement on the last, which i loved. it is in many ways more difficult but also feels more like a real game. i used to be always able to beat a mate with cheap through balls, thats not so easy now. although there seems to be some weird running and kicking glitches in the animations that happen from time to time. oh im also up for an friendly hyper matches so if any one is interested in a game add me or let me know if your ok with being added by me, my gamertag is lex3191, as it says on the pic below

RunningMild

19-10-2009, 12:08 AM

I agree. Playing with a league three team and a player can't run out two games in a row. Basically need a second 11 :(.

Darn, that's one of the reasons why I went with FIFA over Pro Evo in the first place!

Manager Mode sounds really dodgy, which is a shame because I was really looking forward to it. I'll still give it a go, but if it glitches out on me as badly as you guys have mentioned, I may just stick to online matches until next year.

Spazzallo

19-10-2009, 12:12 AM

It isn't absolutely horribe, it is just very bugged. Hopefully they patch up most of the mistakes. I just want my damn achievments! :P

Blue

19-10-2009, 12:15 AM

autologic

19-10-2009, 12:34 AM

To be honest, the only part of the game I give a shit about is exhibition. And online to a much lesser extent. I don't touch manager mode, as I find the whole thing tedious, and pretty much pointless. I always end up simming all of the matches, and if I'm not going to play, I won't enjoy it. I play the game against friends about 95% of the time, with the odd online match here and there. The only thing that determines the strength of the game, for me, is the on-field action. The rest is just extraneous.
I'm the same tbh. 1v1 online matches make up 90% of my time spent on FIFA. With 09 I only spent one or two seasons on Manager Mode, and had a run through a couple of seasons of Be A Pro but that's it. If I'm looking for a deep and detailed managing experience I just play Football Manager, which makes Manager Mode look pretty elementary. That being said, I do remember in the lead up to FIFA 10's release some of the EA guys saying that they saw Manager Mode as something of a work in progress, and will be looking to gradually build it up over a few years. So hopefully in a few years it will be a really worthwhile part of the game.

Manager Mode sounds really dodgy, which is a shame because I was really looking forward to it. I'll still give it a go, but if it glitches out on me as badly as you guys have mentioned, I may just stick to online matches until next year.
I went through a season with City and had no problems. It's far from the unplayable mess that some would have you believe.

Blue

19-10-2009, 12:49 AM

Yeah, I'm not excusing bugs or half-hearted modes or anything like that, but those downfalls really don't affect me much at all, so I'm not fussed. I played a couple of seasons as Cardiff back in 07 on the PS2 …

(Now THAT was a great game, at the time. All this talk of 10 being the fulfilment of the series' potential, but 07 on PS2 was a last-gen highlight. Although 08 and 09 on PS2 are probably just as good, I don't know, I made the jump to 08 on 360. Anyway, I digress …)

… But the only benefit of playing that mode was that I learnt all of the players, even the reserve squad, and can now point out former Cardiff players if I see them playing for another squad.

I'm sure they will work on it extensively over the next year, because I can't really see much else that they can improve on until we see some next-gen 3D grass in a few years.

Spazzallo

19-10-2009, 12:56 AM

I'm sure they will work on it extensively over the next year, because I can't really see much else that they can improve on until we see some next-gen 3D grass in a few years.

This year in FIFA 2011 players who slide tackle will now leave a dangerous divots on the pitch allowing for unpredictable passing and injuries!

Telstra Dome would be a perfect inclusion!

Blue

19-10-2009, 01:09 AM

Hey, don't doubt it. Not in FIFA '11, I wouldn't think, but next gen, they'll be emphasising the surface and weather that much more. The grass won't just be a flat texture, it'll have some whatever mapping on it to give it that slightly fuzzy 3D look that you see sometimes. There's just far too much of it for this gen to handle something like that. Water will pool, snow will pile up. It's one of the few improvements they can make that require more processing power. That, and better crowds. But sports games ALWAYS need better crowds.

Bokracroc

19-10-2009, 02:08 AM

I still haven't noticed if Sport game crowds have advanced past Cardboard cut-out stage yet :S I tuned out a few years back when I spotted quite a few games still using them :S

Blue

19-10-2009, 02:34 AM

They have, slightly. I'm pretty sure they're low-poly, poorly textured, models now. From the usual distance though, they look fine physically, but the animation is still rubbish. They all move at once, pretty much, and don't react to what's happening well at all. It's only really noticeable during PKs, though.

I remember FIFA World Cup 06 took the camera into the crowd, sometimes. It showed you the view of the pitch from the stands, with about four crowd members standing in front of you, cheering, in silhouette. It was a simple but effective way of upping the atmosphere. It's sort of annoying how EA hold off on those cool sort of atmosphere-building effects with the normal games, and only use the extra atmosphere as the main selling point for the otherwise-slim World Cup and Champion's League titles. It makes the regular games seem dull in comparison. It would be nice if you could turn some of those stadium effects, like the streamers and confetti, on in the menu just like weather and stadium selection. It's nice to have the chants, horns, and stamping of feet as well.

EDIT: I just purchased it. It's very good. I just wish there was an option to set automatic substitutions in advance. You could pick who you wanted to swap, and at what times, just like you set custom tactics and formations. Then, once 67 minutes have ticked over, Babel will take over from Riera at the next stoppage, without any direction on your part. As it stands now, I simply never bother with substitutions, except in the case of an injury. It just seems like a feature that would make sense, considering they're doing crap like custom set-pieces now.

proofreeder

20-10-2009, 10:39 PM

Well, finally played someone on this on Live thanks to Thraxas kindly donated 1 month membership. The connection was very good and virtually lag free and has now convinced me to buy 12 months of Live just for local games.

We played Bayern vs Arsenal, Liverpool vs Arsenal, a Spanish derby Barca vs Real and an international to finish things off, France vs England.

The games were close and filled with many comical moments such as a massive superman dive from Victor Valdes that missed the ball completely as his own defender tapped it out of bounds, a hugely deflected goal off a defender that completely bamboozled my helpless and incompetent keeper and a screaming Ronaldo free kick from Thraxas that went into the top corner. Not to mention a really dirty slide by his last man when I was clean on goal with only one minute left ha ha but I appreciate the tactic. Luckily the game went into extra time and he forgot he was one man down and to replace the missing central defender. I reminded him but he couldn't pause because I had possession then, after saying he bet I would score on that play, a flying Ibrahimovic scissor kick from a Henry cross completed the prediction ha ha. Sweet justice for my poor striker's injured calf ha ha.

As a couple of PES fans trying Fifa for the first time, I really need to figure a few things out, particularly how to shoot and convert more 1 on 1's with the keeper, particularly fake shots, and also stronger passes. I'm not that good. But on the whole, my first Fifa Live experience without lag was very enjoyable and Thraxas was a very sporting competitor. Pip pip.

Thus concludes my school report.

Blue

21-10-2009, 01:51 AM

Yeah, 1 on 1s are hard. If anyone has a sure-fire way to slot them in, let us know. Also, someone said that they could score from free kicks consistently. Tips, please.

Moggo

21-10-2009, 03:39 AM

Yeah, 1 on 1s are hard. If anyone has a sure-fire way to slot them in, let us know. Also, someone said that they could score from free kicks consistently. Tips, please.

Regarding Auto-Subs: I believe if you have Assistant Manager turned on then it'll do the subs for you whenever it sees fit.

One-on-ones: Finesse button is your friend here. The goalkeeper is godly one-on-one so you need to put it out of his reach. Either use the finesse button and curve it round him, or practice your chipped lobs. Lobs are obviously most efficient but they're difficult to get the hang of.

Thraxas

21-10-2009, 09:40 AM

Jickle

21-10-2009, 11:52 AM

A good, simple lob shot well over the keeper's head seems to get past him most of the time in a 1 on 1, and isn't too hard to pull off. It's also the most humiliating shot possible in multiplayer, because it takes ages to go in and your opponent just has to watch it, completely powerless.

proofreeder

21-10-2009, 12:09 PM

Yeah I had a great time playing proofreader. There were definitely some memorable moments the Ibrahimovic scissor kick was a great goal. I wish we could have saved the superman dive, that was awesome.

I'll definitely be up for some more games in the future. Thanks for the games :)

Coo-ool.

Yeah, I was impressed with the Ibrahimovic scissor kick animation, I hadn't seen that one before but it fit really well contextually. I was less impressed with Valdes' massive superman dive... the ball was going 2kmph and he still missed it ha ha.

A good, simple lob shot well over the keeper's head seems to get past him most of the time in a 1 on 1, and isn't too hard to pull off. It's also the most humiliating shot possible in multiplayer, because it takes ages to go in and your opponent just has to watch it, completely powerless.

Er... you guys must be better at this game than me. I missed about 10 lobs against Thraxas. I think Thraxas scored from one or came really close... I need more practice!

Also, do people know that holding the right stick results in a longer first touch to get the player away quicker? I'm unable to use this effectively yet, but I could definitely see its value if it is able to be perfected.

Oh yeah, Thraxas I almost forgot with "memorable moments"... Your England keeper rollout straight into the striker's path ha ha ha. I thought for sure I was going to be the one to do that. Think there will be a subsequent matchfixing investigation for that keeper...

autologic

21-10-2009, 05:48 PM

Anyone keen for a game feel free to add me, my gamertag is in my sig. I'm always keen to play some games that are as lag-free as possible.

Bokracroc

22-10-2009, 03:08 AM

REQUIEM

22-10-2009, 03:13 PM

I admit im not the best at scoring alot of goals however i find it fun to experiement with types of attacks, the Lob im gettin down pack. I dont mind losing as long as its a fun game to play which Fifa 10 is.

Blue

22-10-2009, 03:44 PM

Since FIFA 10 likes to assume you've been playing the game for years, what are some handy tips and tricks for attacking and scoring.
I generally don't have too much of a problem getting it up there but getting the goal can be annoying. How do I do certain helpful tricks?There aren't really many 'tricks' to speak of, I find it's more about getting the feel of the subtleties of the game. Using LB to initiate off-the-ball runs is important for creating space.

Newton

22-10-2009, 09:26 PM

I converted from Pro Evo to FIFA this time round and I have to say I'm very impressed.

One problem I've had a couple of times is my keeper coming out to sweep, but rather than hoof it it just switches to player control. I get it taken off me and the ball goes into an empty net. That it happened when the defender was well positioned to get to the ball in the first place was rather annoying.

That aside it's definitely the best football game I have played. Personal highlight so far was getting the ball up and over the wall on the edge of the eighteen yard box. I've been pretty consistent with free kicks. And as for one on ones, finesse or lob all the way. Using a trick to round the keeper works nicely.

Shame I don't have Live to play you chumps online. Undefeated in local multiplayer though!

proofreeder

22-10-2009, 11:44 PM

Ha ha easy to say when you don't have to back it up...

Spazzallo

23-10-2009, 02:28 AM

Some good games Mr_M. Why didn't you pick extra time on the last one? :(

If you hear on the news tomorrow night that goal posts all over Australia have been raped and murdered you will know why >_>.

RunningMild

23-10-2009, 02:33 AM

Just finished my league games with Spaz (gg btw)... final head-to-head record is one win, two draws and a loss. Also, I somehow hit the top of the table! Hooray for me!

Hey Spaz, weren't you saying you were pissed off at people who play as Chelsea even thought their favourite team is good? ;)

Some good games Mr_M. Why didn't you pick extra time on the last one? :(

I'm so used to the league format that I got up to leave and started turning the volume down, forgetting we had the option of extra time. Then I saw it and went to sit back down and turn the volume back up, but I accidentally switched the TV off (universal remote which maps the buttons to a touch screen). When I switched it back on, the option was gone. But believe me, I was going to pick extra time with penalties. :p

If you hear on the news tomorrow night that goal posts all over Australia have been raped and murdered you will know why >_>.

Remember in our last league game, when I crossed it in and someone had an open shot on goal and volleyed it straight into the post? And if it went in I would have snatched a last-gasp win?

What I'm saying is, don't be surprised if I beat you to it! :D

Oh btw, that karate kick clearance where the guy went fully horizontal was a classic!

Newton

23-10-2009, 03:06 AM

Ha ha easy to say when you don't have to back it up...Oh you haven't heard? I'm the best player at FIFA ever and I would win everything.

RunningMild

23-10-2009, 03:19 AM

I remember FIFA World Cup 06 took the camera into the crowd, sometimes. It showed you the view of the pitch from the stands, with about four crowd members standing in front of you, cheering, in silhouette. It was a simple but effective way of upping the atmosphere. It's sort of annoying how EA hold off on those cool sort of atmosphere-building effects with the normal games, and only use the extra atmosphere as the main selling point for the otherwise-slim World Cup and Champion's League titles. It makes the regular games seem dull in comparison. It would be nice if you could turn some of those stadium effects, like the streamers and confetti, on in the menu just like weather and stadium selection. It's nice to have the chants, horns, and stamping of feet as well.

Imagine the amount of broken controllers when they introduce beach balls. :D

proofreeder

23-10-2009, 10:02 AM

Oh you haven't heard? I'm the best player at FIFA ever and I would win everything.

Ha ha.

Also, I somehow hit the top of the table! Hooray for me!

Mr M... on top? What the... What's going on? Just kidding lol congrats. But will it last?

Edit: And is it because you've played more games than everyone else ha ha...

Newton

23-10-2009, 11:44 AM

Oh btw, Finesse button + Direct free kicks = Many goals and happy celebrations.

RunningMild

23-10-2009, 12:40 PM

Oh btw, Finesse button + Direct free kicks = Many goals and happy celebrations.

Yes, we all read the instruction book. ;)

Newton

23-10-2009, 12:47 PM

Up and over on the eighteen yard box. High fives all round.

proofreeder

23-10-2009, 02:27 PM

Yes, we all read the instruction book. ;)

Er... I didn't know you could do that :o. Will give it a try. Actually, I don't use the finesse button at all atm, will try to incorporate it into my game. Need more practice!

Spazzallo

23-10-2009, 02:30 PM

Hey Spaz, weren't you saying you were pissed off at people who play as Chelsea even thought their favourite team is good? ;)

...

Oh btw, that karate kick clearance where the guy went fully horizontal was a classic!

I follow both Milan and Chelsea. Its the fools who pick Real Madrid despite supporting another good team I despise.

Also that kick was insane o_o.

pezhead015

23-10-2009, 04:23 PM

I follow both Milan and Chelsea. Its the fools who pick Real Madrid despite supporting another good team I despise.

Also that kick was insane o_o.

I despise anyone who supports Manure, Chelski, Gooners, Liverfull and Rangers. And I dislike all Europeans teams.

RunningMild

23-10-2009, 04:26 PM

Er... I didn't know you could do that :o. Will give it a try. Actually, I don't use the finesse button at all atm, will try to incorporate it into my game. Need more practice!

If you hold the finesse button (RB on X360) when doing a free kick, it's a 'driven' shot, which means it's low and fast but doesn't curl as much.

Newton

23-10-2009, 05:13 PM

Don't forget that top spin though. Finesse button is perhaps one of my favorite things about FIFA since switching from Pro Evo. That and stopping quickly using LB.

proofreeder

23-10-2009, 05:29 PM

I despise anyone who supports Manure, Chelski, Gooners, Liverfull and Rangers. And I dislike all Europeans teams.

Er... you realise all European teams include all England teams too, right? Which is pretty much everyone I know unless you follow A-league, or Brazlian teams or Boca Juniors. Who do you follow? I support West Ham but don't have a clue whose in them nowadays so I'ma play as Barca online. I was thinking of going Tottenham... Can we still be friends?

If you hold the finesse button (RB on X360) when doing a free kick, it's a 'driven' shot, which means it's low and fast but doesn't curl as much.

Thanks for the info Mr M/Newton. Where is everyone else's great Fifa tips? Are people worried about giving away their secrets? Ha ha. My best tip is use the protect the ball button to stop the ball alot. I would have thought "finesse" would have been the opposite, ie less driven, more curl and spin... but what would I know?

Don't forget that top spin though. Finesse button is perhaps one of my favorite things about FIFA since switching from Pro Evo. That and stopping quickly using LB.

Lol, they took stopping quickly facing the goal directly from Pro Evo, only annoyingly they don't have "stopping quickly facing the same direction", only "protect the ball". Really annoying. Here's a really dumb question though: For top spin do you hold "up" as the power bar charges on the free kick? I assume up as you hit the "top" of the ball. Never seems to work for me, I'm crap at free kicks.

pezhead015

23-10-2009, 05:53 PM

Er... you realise all European teams include all England teams too, right? Which is pretty much everyone I know unless you follow A-league, or Brazlian teams or Boca Juniors. Who do you follow? I support West Ham but don't have a clue whose in them nowadays so I'ma play as Barca online. I was thinking of going Tottenham... Can we still be friends?

Nope Europe is Europe. Britain is Britain as far as I'm concerned. I follow the one and only Bolton Wanderers. West Ham is ok. But I don't really understand why you would play with Barcelona. And Tottenham??? are your serious?

autologic

23-10-2009, 06:10 PM

I follow both Milan and Chelsea. Its the fools who pick Real Madrid despite supporting another good team I despise.
Yeah, I don't get that. Barca are still the best club in the game IMO, and Real aren't any better than them, Inter, Chelsea and the like. The reason being, I think, is that EA have done really well this time around in reducing the dominance of induviduals such as Ronaldo, Messi etc. While you still get moments of brilliance from players of that calibre (as you should) I've been conceding a lot less bullshit goals from those kinds of players, which is something that was pretty rampant at times in 09.

Newton

23-10-2009, 07:18 PM

Thanks for the info Mr M/Newton. Where is everyone else's great Fifa tips? Are people worried about giving away their secrets? Ha ha. My best tip is use the protect the ball button to stop the ball alot. I would have thought "finesse" would have been the opposite, ie less driven, more curl and spin... but what would I know?Yeah it is. LB and B is to do a driven shot.

Mr_M be trippin'. And yeah, if you press up on the joystick it will add topspin.

Cian

23-10-2009, 09:50 PM

Three weeks on...if people were still playing Fifa 09 then I'd jump back. Biggest disappointment of the year. All they needed to do was tweak the minor faults from last years game, yet they've managed to rush it out and **** it up in so many ways. **** EA and **** Fifa.

grimace06

23-10-2009, 10:44 PM

There has to be a patch/update coming soon.

Cian

23-10-2009, 10:53 PM

There has to be a patch/update coming soon.

There was a patch released tonight, doesn't look like anything has been fixed. It's a disgrace that they were allowed to release it in this state.

Spazzallo

23-10-2009, 10:57 PM

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

It's pathetic.

proofreeder

23-10-2009, 11:57 PM

Nope Europe is Europe. Britain is Britain as far as I'm concerned. I follow the one and only Bolton Wanderers. West Ham is ok. But I don't really understand why you would play with Barcelona. And Tottenham??? are your serious?

So which teams do you want people to play with? EPL teams that you like personally? Barca, as well as having the European player of the year and a footballing genius in Iniesta, not to mention Xavi and Ibrahimovic, play the most attractive brand of football of any professional team, football at its purist.

To be honest, anyone who says they despise all European teams cannot appreciate their quality. There's not much point arguing with someone that can't appreciate the skill and talent of other European teams outside their bias fanaticism.

And to those who hate on 10, are your issues the football or the "management" side? Because IMO, jostling and 360 degree dribbling are 2 incredibly brave features that add so much to the game and should be applauded after so many companies release so many shit, barely improved rehashes of the same game. They have helped revolutionise sporting games.

Jostling feels like real soccer, hold them off with your body enough while keeping control, it has to be a perfectly balanced. And 360 dribbling... you know you can't only run 8 ways in real football right? The fact they tried to "break through" this barrier into new territory should be congratulated. Although after my limited playing time I will admit it isn't perfect. I remember a lengthy post I once wrote about encouraging game developers to go analogue instead of digital. This is exactly what EA have attempted. However, with such freedom it does make it a little hard to be precise. I think a controller with a slight "click" on the 45's would be a great idea.

I just can't believe after EA introduced such revolutionary ideas into the world of football gaming people would bag them for changing the game too much.

Having said all this, I should add the disclaimer I have no idea what you guys are complaining about aside from bugs in gaining achievements and the management side of things, I refer only to the actual football gameplay itself. Also, I haven't played the game a great deal like I'm sure some of you have so I reserve the right to go back on this and join the haters. Ha ha.

Edit: and thanks for the info Newton and Mr M lol. Will have to play around with it sometime.

RunningMild

24-10-2009, 12:14 AM

Don't forget that top spin though. Finesse button is perhaps one of my favorite things about FIFA since switching from Pro Evo. That and stopping quickly using LB.

Pro Evo 5 had a finesse button. ;)

While you still get moments of brilliance from players of that calibre (as you should) I've been conceding a lot less bullshit goals from those kinds of players, which is something that was pretty rampant at times in 09...

... and every Pro Evo game ever made. :p

Lol, they took stopping quickly facing the goal directly from Pro Evo, only annoyingly they don't have "stopping quickly facing the same direction", only "protect the ball".

If you let go of the stick and press the turbo button, you will stop dead while facing the same direction.

Three weeks on...if people were still playing Fifa 09 then I'd jump back. Biggest disappointment of the year. All they needed to do was tweak the minor faults from last years game, yet they've managed to rush it out and **** it up in so many ways. **** EA and **** Fifa.

Funny how it took longer to make than the previous game (AFAI could tell) and people say it was rushed. :p

proofreeder

24-10-2009, 12:28 AM

If you let go of the stick and press the turbo button, you will stop dead while facing the same direction.

Yep but if there's a player in the vicinity you will still turn your body to shield the ball. In real football and in PES I like to stop the ball in front when under some pressure facing the opposition player, not always turn my back unneccessarily. In basketball I believe they call it "you reach, I teach". Thanks for the reply anyway though.

Edit: I hate contextually sensitive moves in games, I despise the fact in NBA live you always face the basket. Sport is not context sensitive.

Cian

24-10-2009, 10:33 AM

Funny how it took longer to make than the previous game (AFAI could tell) and people say it was rushed. :p

You're missing the point. They rushed the game out to beat Pro Evo, if they had that extra month they could iron out all of the issues. It may have taken longer, I don't know where you're getting that info from, but the fact remains that Fifa 10 was rushed out and now lies as an unfinished mess.

I'm going to give PES2010 a chance when it comes out next week.

proofreeder

24-10-2009, 11:10 AM

I assume Mr M means it took an extra month because it was released a month later this year than last.

My question remains Cian, do you guys have a problem with the football or just the managerial/achievement aspect of the game? I'm interested to know what your beef is aside from not getting achievements.

PES09 was an amazing game and easily my most played last year, and I'm tossing up whether to purchase 10. Would be funny if we both swapped allegiances.

I'm sticking with Fifa atm. As previously posted, I don't see any of the flaws you guys mention (or don't mention) in the footballing side of the game and the new implementations are fantastic.

Cian

24-10-2009, 11:27 AM

My question remains Cian, do you guys have a problem with the football or just the managerial/achievement aspect of the game? I'm interested to know what your beef is aside from not getting achievements.

Both, but mainly the football. The goalkeepers have gone back four years in terms of AI. All the random goalkeepers in Clubs are no more than 5'5. Goalkeepers can't make regulation catches. They rush off their line too much. Passing is inconsistent. Fouls (especially with the A button) are given away too easily. Hitting the post is still far too common, happens twice in every game.

And the lag is ridiculous.

RunningMild

24-10-2009, 12:28 PM

You're missing the point. They rushed the game out to beat Pro Evo, if they had that extra month they could iron out all of the issues. It may have taken longer, I don't know where you're getting that info from, but the fact remains that Fifa 10 was rushed out and now lies as an unfinished mess.

What I'm saying is it's pretty amazing that the game could have a longer dev cycle (AFAI can tell) and the final product still appears to be rushed (IYO). It's not the first time something like this has happened.