NBA anyone?

[jawsy]

Alright, now that the starters are out of the way, we need to do the real fun stuff- the bench. Show us your picks (Cx1, Fx2, Gx2, Wildcardx2)!

East:

C: Chris Bosh.
F: Gerald Wallace.
F: Josh Smith.
G: Rajon Rondo.
G: Joe Johnson.
WC: Stephen Jackson.
WC: Paul Pierce.

West:

C: Zach Randolph.
F: Kevin Durant.
F: Dirk Nowitzki.
G: Chris Paul.
G: Deron Williams.
WC: Brandon Roy.
WC: Pau Gasol.

Interesting notes:
- Two Bobcats! I stand by it though. Wallace has been superb all year and Jackson has been one of the best players in the whole league in the new year.
- PFs at C. Who cares? There are only really 3 or 4 traditional Cs in the league anyway.
- Three Celtics (counting KG)! Not justified based on team success but it is hard to deny Pierce a spot.
- I found a spot for Deron Williams.

[NiB]

2 close losses in 2 games, KD is rippin it up but we've dropped to 10th in the west. LeBrons last second block was pretty epic on Durant

[Natrak]

Josh Smith got snubbed for Paul Pierce and Derrick Rose hasn't really been playing at an all-star level so much this season. Happy with the West reserves, though.

[jawsy]

I nailed the West.

Horford? Jesus.

[D.C.]

A couple of the Celtics players got some unwarranted love. First it's Garnett starting (he's been MIA for at least ten games, plus even when playing how has he possibly had a better season than Bosh?) and now Pierce gets a look in ahead of some clearly more deserving guys.

The Horford choice was ridiculous. I'd probably switch Bosh to C and Lee in at PF.

[jawsy]

Smith should be there before Lee (plus S-Jax).

[Natrak]

Thanks, Nate, the dunk comp is now dead.

[Emilbus]

Why was Wallace in the Dunk comp? From the looks of his dunks, looked like he didn't even want to be in it.

This contest is going down hill..

[Natrak]

When Wallace was invited he pretty much said he hadn't watched it at all over the last 8 years and that he probably wouldn't have anything special planned. Beyond the fact that the dude is an awesome athlete it always seemed like a strange selection to me. I guess the NBA felt a need to get some kind of representation for the Bobcats during All Star Weekend this year.

Nate's been slowly killing the Dunk Comp for years, now. The comp Dwight won a couple of years back looked like it might manage a comeback, but between Robinson's bland wins (yes, he's short and he can dunk, we get it) and LeBron basically sucking all of the air out of the comp by declining to enter it might even be too kind to say that the Dunk Comp is on life support.

[dimorphic]

The All-Star concept is on life support. The problem with today was that the entire arena didn't feel like it had any atmosphere and that was conveyed even through the TV broadcast.

[Natrak]

Maybe the Dallas Cowboys Stadium just wasn't suited to basketball or at least the smaller events that have become largely pointless (lol, skills comp). It'll be interesting to see how the ASG goes tomorrow.

[NiB]

What a horrible dunk contest...time to rest it again or at least entice some big names.

[jawsy]

They need to throw big cash at it. Or maybe something ridiculous like naming it after next year's winner as a means of enticing a killer field.

[Azzaman]

love the international league pass, the only game on that day and the asg wasn't put up when my mates went to watch it tonight, the game had been finished for about 7 hours a that point!

ffs, plus we lost our game by 3 pts and I got kneed in my calf in the opening minutes, YAY!

[dimorphic]

108,000 +, wow.

The overall All-Star weekend might be dying but the All-Star game itself is still going strong.

[Jabbz]

Anyone keeping up with the trades?

Dallas getting Butler and Hayward is big in my eyes, I think it gets them a little bit more competative in the west. Cavs getting Antawn Jameson from Washington for Ilgouskas just makes them that much tougher come playoffs. I think they can go all the way this year, and then when they win the pleyoffs, Lebron will leave.

Stoudamire to Miami, according to everything I'm reading now.

[Azzaman]

Krytonate to Celtics?
Tyrus Thomas to Nuggets?

I don't think these have been confirmed yet though.

I don't think LeBron will leave if they win, If he's gonna leave, he'll just leave. Anyway where would he go? If the cavs are a contender this year he may stay to put another knotch in the belt in 10/11

[Jabbz]

Who cares about Nate Robinson? I didnt know about Thomas, but if thats the case its a interesting move: Salmons is going with him, wherever he is going. He was held out of todays game because of that, though I was thinking Thomas/Salmons to Houston for McGrady.

I think, especially if they win, Lebron is gone. He will want maybe a LA team, or NY, somewhere with more exposure. Either way, it will be an interesting 24 hours till the deadline ends.

[jawsy]

Dallas have essentially made another sideways move (similar to Kidd/Harris) with Butler for Howard, and no deal is that good if the key component is Brendan Haywood (he doesn't get them past the Lakers, Nuggets, Jazz or even the Blazers now).

The biggest concern with Jamison for this season is that they still only have one basketball. Beyond that, however, it would appear to be a pretty shoddy move. They are insanely over the cap and little chance of adding anyone worth much of anything. No matter how it pans out this season I would think it only increases the likelihood of James leaving.

Robinson doesn't add much more than House already brings to the table, however he does take more off it. Meh.

The Nuggets don't need Thomas (they need a legit C). Thomas and Salmons for McGrady doesn't work unless you throw in about another 3 bodies (Hinrich, James and... someone). I think Houston would be better off seeing what they can strangle out of NY.

[D.C.]

I think the Cavs got a fantastic deal, so much so that they have absolutely no excuses for reaching the Finals at minimum. Should be able to get back Z after thirty days, Jamison can stretch the floor much better than Stoudermire, and they also didn't have to give up Hickson in the trade. Great stuff.

The Celtics would be wise at snapping up Nate (particularly as they don't have a legit PG backing up Rondo), but it's not going to make them a genuine contender again like getting rid of R. Allen for someone better would.

lol, the Knicks and Bulls possibly giving up so much for McGrady.

Also kind of unbelievable how many teams are seeking expiring contracts and willing to essentially scratch this season already. As if the writing wasn't already on the wall, LeBron won't be going anywhere, if Phoenix are so desperate to move Stoudermire to Miami neither will Wade, which basically leaves Bosh, J. Johnson and a couple of others free on the market. Not really players that teams should be willing to scrap everything for the possibility of landing...

[jawsy]

Nate is not a legit PG.

And the Knicks would be the ones laughing if they could get McGrady's deal for the pu-pu platter they would be giving up.

[D.C.]

And the Knicks would be the ones laughing if they could get McGrady's deal for the pu-pu platter they would be giving up.
Well, considering he's not even playing for the Rockets (and clearly not coming back), I'm sure they would snap up the draft picks, Jordan Hill, and dumping McGrady's ridiculous salary (even if it meant picking up a couple of sub-standard contracts on top).

[Natrak]

Dallas have essentially made another sideways move (similar to Kidd/Harris) with Butler for Howard, and no deal is that good if the key component is Brendan Haywood (he doesn't get them past the Lakers, Nuggets, Jazz or even the Blazers now).

Butler is a better player than Howard when he's on, and certainly better than the shambling corpse that's been sitting in for Howard lately. I'd much rather have Brendan Haywood holding down the middle than Dampier or Gooden. It doesn't send the Mavs over the top, but I do feel the trade should significantly improve them. It's not Gasol to the Lakers, but I think it was a rather good move.

[jawsy]

Well, considering he's not even playing for the Rockets (and clearly not coming back), I'm sure they would snap up the draft picks, Jordan Hill, and dumping McGrady's ridiculous salary (even if it meant picking up a couple of sub-standard contracts on top).

Knicks don't want players; they want space. No longer an issue anyway, as the Rockets are getting Martin from Sacto'.

And Natrak, I agree that the individual parts are better than what they jettisoned or will replace. But, it does not get past the fact that this move doesn't improve the club enough to put them into the Western elite. They are about as dangerous as they ever were, which means they would still need Nowitzki to play like a freakin' maniac to really make waves.

[NiB]

Camby to the Blazers is good for Portland, and the Clippers have finally gotten smart in their front office (although Dunleavy still needs to be fired from all clippers duties for pain inflicted over the years)

Martin to the Rockets helps them out and T-Mac is basically a spent force in the league with his expiring deal being morre valuable than his ability

[Jabbz]

Salmons to the bucks.... So many trades today!

[D.C.]

The Cavs/Nuggets OT game was all sorts of craziness.

[Jabbz]

Was a great game. Unfortunately, Lebron cut up my fantasy matchup for today against the number 1 ranked guy. I was winning.....

No Kobe today, and no Stoudamire trade, although they mentioned other trades are still being woprked on past the deadline, not sure how that works.

[Azzaman]

not the hyper league I take it? I've got melo and the guy I was playing against had Lebron. I also had nene and mo on so I won that day :D

Mo's Back!

[Jabbz]

Mo's effectiveness will be cut with Jamieson around. I haven't paid attention to the Hyper league in ages, been to busy.

Next year: Tmac, Lebron and another big free agent at NY.... would make life interesting.

[D.C.]

Personally, I'd like to see the Knicks miss out on everything and keep wallowing in the doldrums for a little longer. Like the Yankees, they seem to have the impression that throwing stacks of money is assured of landing anyone they want. If they can't acquire at least two big free agents it's going to be hilarious, because they've burnt draft picks for the next couple of years solely to free up cap space.

[Jabbz]

Exactly. And one of those big names HAS to be Lebron, or they are screwed. I was reading something earlier that he is also a prime target of the clippers, which is viable, and would make the LA derby's evewn more interesting.

I'll take a guess today, and say NY will land Lebron and Wade for next season. Thats my prediction.

[jawsy]

I think they would almost have to have secured a handshake deal from someone (someones?) to do the deals they have done. Right? The Isiah Thomas era is over, right? :P

Also, comparing the Knicks to the Yankees is a bit off the mark here. NY aren't throwing stacks of money; they are simply offering the same amount that any team with the space would offer for James. It's not like they are offering obviously inflated figures just to cut others out of the market (they can't even offer the most).

[Jabbz]

And the Yankess (to my knowledge) don't clear house to get these players. They just throw stacks of cash.... oh to be a baseballer!

[Azzaman]

I'm hoping that Wade gets a gig at the bulls next year, I could see him and Rose really working together.

I listened to an espn podcast the other day that made a really good case for Lebron to NY. I dunno, I'm not convinced he would leave the cavs considering the amount of talent they have at the moment, but I guess the lure of a big city may lead him to 'rough it' for a few years in NY while they get their act together for a run at the playoffs.

EDIT: T-Mac's back!

[Natrak]

I'm probably getting excited over a situation that will prove fruitless but...

SERGIO RODRIGUEZ + MIKE D'ANTONI!!!!

[Jabbz]

I dont know enough about Rodriguez. But I know D'Antoni. Most players under him improve, if only as they don't play defense! T-Mac did well for his first game in what, 4 months?

[jawsy]

Magic over Cavs.

[D.C.]

Apparently, the Shaq/Howard duel was pretty great.

A couple of friends were bagging the Cavs today because they lost, wait for it, three straight, but I reckon they'll be fine. Everyone was quick to judge when they dropped a couple early and till now they have been far and away the most consistent team in the East.

[jawsy]

The only thing that really matters during the regular season is seeing how the matchups and mismatches play out. Cleveland dropping a game to the Bobcats in February doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

[Zace]

I'll take a guess today, and say NY will land Lebron and Wade for next season. Thats my prediction.

I'll say LeBron and Amare. LeBron has apparently been offered $50 million by Nike to move to NY (I think I read that on hoopshype a while back) and I think Amare will get greedy and want to play in a bigger market with LeBron. So, if they sign those two, get t-mac back for two raffle tickets and somehow manage to sign David Lee they're top 4 in the east for sure.

[jawsy]

They can't get Lee under that scenario (doesn't work with the cap, unless he takes minimum). It also means McGrady would have to take minimum, or one of the other two less than a max deal. NY also will not have the mid-level exception to spend.

[Jabbz]

T-Mac has already said he will take the veterans minimum salary if it means getting 2 superstars to NY. I can't wait for the end of the season, just to see what actually happens, all over the league.

[jawsy]

T-Mac actually said that he wants them to "save a little for me", while also saying that if he recaptures some of his old form they will have to do a little 'negotiating'. He won't sign for minimum, unless he plays so poorly that you don't want him for minimum.

[NiB]

No way the Knicks get Bron and Wade....I can see maybe Bosh and Wade 2gether (no way Bosh doesn't end up in texas next season if he doesn't land in new york)

LeBron's next signing is probably the most Important in NBA history, he could single handedly kill the cavs by leaving and bring the knicks/clippers back to life by signing.

Only way he stays with the cavs is if they win it all this year (and even then he might have the grounds to say I've achieved everything I wanted in cleveland, I'll look for a new challenge elsewere)

[D.C.]

I can't see why Wade would have much interest in going to NYC. He's probably less likely to stay with Miami than LeBron with the Cavs (let's face it, the Heat are going to be slumming for awhile yet), but the Bulls have shifted quite a bit of salary over trade period and apparently he loves Chicago and MJ.

Plus, I'm sure he would love Rose driving to the hoop and taking some of the hits for him.

[Natrak]

A Wade + Rose backcourt doesn't really make much sense to me. I'm sure Dwyane can't wait to be coached by Vinny Del Negro, too (although I guess it's assumed that Del Negro's out after this season anyway).

Beyond getting to bathe in being the hometown hero I don't see why Chicago would be a more appetising place to go than NYC where he'd be able to play under D'Antoni, be the darling of MSG and likely play with another big free agent.

[jawsy]

Don't Miami have almost (if not) enough to offer a max contract? I wouldn't totally discount Wade staying with the Heat and them being able to rope another player in (Bosh or Amare would be my guess). Beasley is another nice piece, plus they actually get to participate in at least some of the next seventeen drafts. Plus you gotta love that weather and those wacky Florida state taxes.

[Jabbz]

Hmm, from all I have read, they would have to sign up another free agent before Wade agrees to stay. I heard a while back that there was a stalemate between management and Wade for signing a new contract, he wanted them to get another big agent to get him to stay. That was a while back, it might have changed by now?

[Zace]

With Jermanie O'Neal's $23 mill coming off the books at the end of the year, the Heat will have enough room for another big free agent (Carlos Boozer?!?!)

Also, no way the Cavs win it all this year. If they manage to get past Boston (most likely) and Orlando (don't think they can) they still have to beat the Lakers (no way).

[D.C.]

I tink the Cavs actually match up better against LA compared to Orlando and (maybe) Boston.

btw, how good was Mo in the last quarter today?! He was on fire with the threes. Cleveland actually looked better when Shaq went out of the game (although they're still going to need him more often than not).

[Zace]

I tink the Cavs actually match up better against LA compared to Orlando and (maybe) Boston.

btw, how good was Mo in the last quarter today?! He was on fire with the threes. Cleveland actually looked better when Shaq went out of the game (although they're still going to need him more often than not).

unfortunately he was pretty spectacular. I mean pump fake 1 dribble 3's with a man coming at him. That shit is ridiculous.

Also, I would like to hear how you think the Cavs match up better on LA. For me LA wins because RonRon can guard LBJ and really get in his grill making him tired. This means that he'll be too tired to guard Kobe and NO-ONE else on the Cavs team can guard him. For me, that's enough for a series win to LA.

[Natrak]

Ron-Ron will make LBJ work harder, sure, and that could feasibly effect his defense on Kobe but LeBron doesn't consistently defend Kobe one-on-one anyway. Furthermore the Cavs have long been a team with solid-to-great team defense, they are not a team that is carried by LeBron defensively. I don't think your argument holds weight.

Let's also not forget that the Cavaliers embarassed LA on their homefloor on Christmas day, which definitely came across as a freak game but to argue that the LeBrons don't matchup favorably with LA or that they don't have a chance in a 7 game series is wrong as far as I can tell.

[D.C.]

Also, I would like to hear how you think the Cavs match up better on LA. For me LA wins because RonRon can guard LBJ and really get in his grill making him tired. This means that he'll be too tired to guard Kobe and NO-ONE else on the Cavs team can guard him. For me, that's enough for a series win to LA.
I thought Artest would be a tremendous addition for the Lakers purely for the potential Lebron factor, but he's been a bit of a disappointment this season thus far. Was carved up in the two losses against the Cavs by James, and hasn't been a great offensive threat either (although that was never what he was known for).

Plus, now with Shaq and Jamison, Bynum, Gasol, and even to a lesser extent Odom, suddenly can't dominate the paint or stretch the floor and cause serious problems either. If it comes down to LeBron vs. Kobe for a whole game I'm going with the former every time. Game tied in the dying seconds, different story. :p

[Jabbz]

It would come down to a final quater showdown where Kobe and Lebron will stick to each other like glue. Artest was brought in to help him out, but he has been pretty ineffective, but then again the Cavs have brought in Parker and Moon to help out Lebron, not to mention Shaq and Jamieson, and maybe Ziggy will return for the playoffs? I'm not sure of his status if hes playing for washington or if he bought out his contract to go back.

Another Random thought I had about next year: Nash and Lebron at NY.

[jawsy]

Z was bought out. He'll resign with the Cavs in a month.

Nets beat the Celtics.

[Zace]

I still think the Lakers have the Cavs number. If the Cavs get to the finals, Mo Williams will do another disappearing act and I think so will Antawn Jamieson. Shaq is too slow to keep up with Gasol or Bynum running baseline to baseline.

Big Z got brutalised by Dwight Howard in the Conf Finals last year and I expect the same to happen when he faces Gasol, Bynum or Odom. Also, lets not forget the Lakers know what it takes to win a championship.

RonRon is also starting to find his footing in the system now too.

[Azzaman]

I still think the Lakers have the Cavs number. If the Cavs get to the finals, Mo Williams will do another disappearing act and I think so will Antawn Jamieson. Shaq is too slow to keep up with Gasol or Bynum running baseline to baseline.

Big Z got brutalised by Dwight Howard in the Conf Finals last year and I expect the same to happen when he faces Gasol, Bynum or Odom. Also, lets not forget the Lakers know what it takes to win a championship.

RonRon is also starting to find his footing in the system now too.

Haven't the lakers been thrashed twice by the cavs in the regular season now?

[jawsy]

Regular.

[Jabbz]

I don't really go by the regular season results, It has a small case, but playoff games are just so much more intense than even those games.

But, I still give the cavs the nod this playoffs if they meet the lakers, I think that they can do it.

[jawsy]

I think looking at potential matchups/mismatches from the regular season can be of interest if the sample size is big enough, and if you can look at the exploitation of such as the reason for a common result you may be on to something. But simply saying that 'the Cavs beat the Lakers in the regular season, therefore they would win a series' is flawed thinking.

[Natrak]

I don't think that's been the reasoning, it was more that the Cavs regular season play against the Lakers this season contradicts a statement like 'I think the Lakers have the Cavs number'. This doesn't mean that the Cavs will have a similar performance in a 7 game Finals series as their regular season series, but it certainly provides evidence that the team is capable of holding their own against the Lakeshow.

Both extremes in this argument are flawed.

[jawsy]

Geez, dude, I'm a busy man. I can't be expected to actually read the above (and quoted) post! Right? :P

I think the problem is that we may be reading too literally the cute turns of phrase that some people are using (like 'have their number'). I think I'm safe in saying that Stellar believes the Lakers would beat the Cavs in a series, despite the regular season results, no matter how he actually went about phrasing it.

[Natrak]

I suppose so, it probably doesn't help that when someone mentions a team having another's number I get paralyzing flashbacks to the Warriors and the Mavs.

[jawsy]

That reminds me; I was watching the third quarter of the game currently on (Suns and Jazz) and watching Jason Richardson seem to do a great deal of not much, and it got me thinking- which team is responsible for the most current 'bad' contracts?

Warriors have to be close, right? Richardson, Murphy, Davis, Maggette, Dunleavy...maybe even S-Jax (maybe, but probably not if he doesn't give up on your club). Geez, even Ellis is a candidate.

[Natrak]

I think you pretty much ended the conversation right there, I can't think of a team responsible for more of the league's current bad contracts.

[NiB]

I think you pretty much ended the conversation right there, I can't think of a team responsible for more of the league's current bad contracts.

The Knicks have the bad contract title by a long stretch...honorable mentions to the clippers

[jawsy]

I think you pretty much ended the conversation right there, I can't think of a team responsible for more of the league's current bad contracts.

Whoops, I blamed them for Davis but technically that's the Clippers mess. You could also throw Biedrins and Turiaf into the mix as well for GS.

The Knicks have the bad contract title by a long stretch...honorable mentions to the clippers

Well, your complete lack of evidence sure has convinced me.

The Knicks aren't too bad, really. They often simply trade for someone else's mistakes. Knicks are only directly responsible for (off the top of my head) Curry, James and Jefferies, right? Hughes and Harrington (ha! is this one GS as well?) both got money elsewhere.

As for the Clippers, they aren't a hope in hell of making this list. Hard to give out many bad contracts when you are reluctant to pay people. Davis is all theirs, though.

[Natrak]

Yeah, the Knicks tended to pick up bad contracts through trade rather than drawing them up and signing players to them themselves (although Curry is pretty unforgivable). Hughes was Cleveland's fault and Harrington was Indiana's. Jalen Rose, Jamal Crawford, Z-Bo, Steve Francis, these were all other teams' mistakes.

[william h. cosby II]

Jerome James was probably the worst of the lot, though. Don't see how they ever thought that could work out.

[william h. cosby II]

Also, it's going to be interesting to see how the playoffs play out - it's a wide open race for a lot of it, I feel.

[jawsy]

Jerome James was probably the worst of the lot, though. Don't see how they ever thought that could work out.

Contract year phenomenon. Except he wasn't even motivated enough to keep it up for a year (just one playoff series, really).

[Natrak]

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No big throws down like Amare.

[Azzaman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzVjmR2gp00

ffs, I dunno If I've got this right... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzVjmR2gp00

[Jabbz]

For next seasons fantasy League, I'm out guys. I've also been told that Can Can and the Winners are out. Anyone want League Manager Powers? I'll pass it on when the season ends.

[Azzaman]

Jeepers, that's massive forward planning, you have ages until the next season. Speaking of which though, the final is on. I'm putting money on my assorted freaks to take this one out :D

[Jabbz]

Heh, ive barely spent time on it at all. And, congrats on beating me for the final by the way Azza!

[Azzaman]

Heh, ive barely spent time on it at all. And, congrats on beating me for the final by the way Azza!

:D tenchar

[topaz]

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Especially when JR "wtf was he thinking?" Smith came back down the court and Melo was still laying there lol

[D.C.]

I thought the refs had the power to stop the play in that situation? Whatever the case, hilariously bizarre.

[Natrak]

Anyone here had League Pass for the playoffs in previous years? I decided to get it today, but I'm interested to see if the Conference Finals/Finals will recieve blackouts considering they'll likely broadcast on either One or ESPN locally.

[D.C.]

Is that where you get access to stream the games live off your PC, Natrak? I heard that has been a bit dodgy (specifically in terms of quality), but they may have improved the service since then.

[Natrak]

Yeah, it's their live streaming service. I only went with the 'Rookie' package and the quality's not outstanding, but it's watchable and I've yet to suffer any pauses for buffering while watching any streams.

[Azzaman]

Holy crap that was a close finish in the Hyper league. Grats Jojo (whoever you are) you deserve the win.

Damn I wish the cavs played Mo today, may have made the difference...

[NiB]

Kobe V KD in rnd 1.....I can"t wait

[dj-tinklez]

Holy crap that was a close finish in the Hyper league. Grats Jojo (whoever you are) you deserve the win.

Damn I wish the cavs played Mo today, may have made the difference...

Thanks! Well played to you. I was keeping an eye out on it all day at school, and I nearly puked when I saw my FT% dropping closer to yours. Went big hoping to overtake in blocks and it nearly blew up in my face (sat John Salmons who went 8/8 at the line). I'm down for next season, but only if we get more committed managers.

Anyways now for the real stuff. Lakers form have been awful the last few weeks. Sure we had virtually clinched home court, but it's not the form you want to bring into the playoffs. And a little worried about drawing OKC (who I soooo picked to be the surprise packets at the start of the season). They'll be playing with a "nothing to lose" mentality which is always dangerous. Great experience for them, but I'm confident Mamba will find his game, and we should have Bynum back. Lakers in 6.

My upset of the first round: Wade will single handedly knock out the aging C's.

[D.C.]

Kobe V KD in rnd 1.....I can"t wait
As great as Durant is at scoring, he still can't defend if his life depended on it.

I think the Bulls pose more of a threat to the Cavs than OKC the Lakers.

[Jabbz]

Hey guys! Good season, am going to pass on ownership of the league to Azza :)

I agree - biggest upset would be Maimi beating Boston.

I cant seem to delete myself though. Managed to delete my friends who wanted out, Azza can you try it?

[dj-tinklez]

As great as Durant is at scoring, he still can't defend if his life depended on it.

I think the Bulls pose more of a threat to the Cavs than OKC the Lakers.

KD won't be guarding Kobe, Sefolosha will get the job. He's an awesome defender and stitched Kobe up real good (9 turnovers, restricted to 11 points) last time we played.

Can't see Bulls pushing the Cavs (though I really wish they do). I love Rose, but they're an energy team and they don't have enough offensive weapons to win 4 games. I was hoping the Bobcats got the 8th seed. They really trouble the Cavs and were 3-0 in the regular season.

[Natrak]

As great as Durant is at scoring, he still can't defend if his life depended on it.

This isn't true, Durant has improved defensively. He's by no means an elite defender but he has definitely improved that facet of his game and is no longer a revolving door on defense.

The Thunder allow less points per 100 possessions with Durant on the floor (http://www.82games.com/0910/09OKC10.HTM#onoff), this is a huge change from previous years when the Sonics/Thunder were giving up 8 more points per 100 possessions (http://www.82games.com/0809/08OKC9.HTM#onoff) with Durant on the floor.

Expect Durant's defense to continue to improve as his career continues - particularly with his work ethic - right now Durant is actually quite a good defender for his age.

[Azzaman]

Hey guys! Good season, am going to pass on ownership of the league to Azza :)

I agree - biggest upset would be Maimi beating Boston.

I cant seem to delete myself though. Managed to delete my friends who wanted out, Azza can you try it?

won't let me delete you either....

[jawsy]

I would expect the Lakers to be okay.

I like Utah's chances, even if Boozer can't scratch his head.

Dallas should be okay unless San Antonio find a time machine.

Losing Roy was a very tough break for Portland in a season filled with them.

Cleveland could probably sit three starters and still beat the Bulls.

I would feel a bit better about the Heat's chances of an upset if I didn't look at their lineup and see considerable playing time for Arroyo, Wright, Richardson...well, basically everyone except for Wade.

Stan Van Gundy is a wonderful coach.

Three months ago I would not have bet my life on Bogut being the bitterest 'missing-piece-from-a-playoff-team' pill to swallow. Hawks caught a break.

[Jabbz]

I'm a little unsure how Utah can go now that Okur is out, and am very glad that Dallas is up 1-0.

The Boston/Miami game 1 was interesting to say the least.

Interesting clip form an orlando/Miami match from March.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAL26Dy9evw

^^ How do I embed that and not just make it a link?

[Natrak]

[*yt=Title of your choosing*]EAL26Dy9evw[*/yt*]

(With the stars removed, naturally, you want the part of the URL that comes after 'watch?v=' between the tags)

EAL26Dy9evw

[jawsy]

Let me just put that clip into context: Miami lost.

;)

[Azzaman]

they lost in style though

[Natrak]

The OKC/LA series has been just great so far, I thought it'd be a really fun contest and it's absolutely delivered. Awesome to see Kobe go 1-8 in the 4th while defended by Kid Delicious, and while he definitely missed a couple of shots he'd normally hit Durant did a great job guarding him.

[Jabbz]

I agree Natrak, I really loved that last half. Durants defence was solid in the last quater in shutting down Kobe. I really want OKC to beat LA, but I don't see it happening.

[Azzaman]

holy crap, I hope OKC take out the lakers, would be one hell of an upset and I'd love to see them go far.

[D.C.]

I've been really surprised with Durant's defence this series. I always considered him largely just a scorer (who would later develop into an okay defender), but he's really coming out a little like Anthony did in last year's series guarding Kobe.

I still think the Lakers will be too good, but OKC embarrassed them last game.

[NiB]

I've been really surprised with Durant's defence this series. I always considered him largely just a scorer (who would later develop into an okay defender), but he's really coming out a little like Anthony did in last year's series guarding Kobe.

I still think the Lakers will be too good, but OKC embarrassed them last game.

You don't really appreciate how tall he is and his arm length til they isolate his D on a replay. He'll strong arm anyone on D but when he gets it right it's like trying to score on stretch armstrong

[amcam]

Can the Mavs be the ninth team in NBA History to recover and triumph from a 3-1 deficit??? I think not.

GO SPURS!!

[Natrak]

How anyone could go for the Spurs is beyond me. >_>

But there's no way the Mavs are digging themselves out of this hole. That third quarter yesterday was just terrible. I would have really liked to see a Mavs/Suns series, too, that would have been some really entertaining ball.

[Natrak]

Milwaukee go up 3-2! Fear the Deer!

All they have to do is win at home now.

[NiB]

Milwaukee go up 3-2! Fear the Deer!

All they have to do is win at home now.

To bad Bogut went down, they were looking good to at least push Orlando (still a chance they could choke in game 6 though)

[amcam]

Spurs advance to round 2...

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! **** YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROUND 2, BABY , ROUND 2!!!!!!! #SanAntonioSpurs

[NiB]

Spurs advance to round 2...

Would've loved to see Cubans face after the final whistle

[Natrak]

Spurs advance to round 2...

Initiating celebration sequence.

BEEP BOOP BEEP BOOP.

[Azzaman]

Suns went through as well. They play Spurs right? They're gonna get spanked.

I'm keen too watch the lakers v thunder and utah v denver. I think those games are gonna go off.

Lol, just hopped onto twitter, Bosh is making it obvious he wants to move on, he tweets:

"Been wanting to ask. Where should I go next season and why?"

[D.C.]

Nice comeback win by the Cavs today.

Really hoping the Jazz can put away the Lakers too. They're just about my second favourite team in the West (after Portland).

[Natrak]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/Natrak/6a00d8341c630a53ef0134802f972f970c-.jpg

lmao (http://www.latimesmagazine.com/2010/05/kobe-white-hot.html)

[NiB]

Add that to the long list of reasons I hate Kobe

[Azzaman]

I loved this (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Video-Dwight-Howard-is-pretty-good-with-the-jok?urn=nba,239560) one from Dwight

[D.C.]

I'm probably the only person that finds his shit pathetically lame. Tries way too hard.

[Azzaman]

omg cavs out....

[Natrak]

Celtics continue to look more and more like the team that won the title two seasons ago, I'm really impressed. I had written them off this season.

[NiB]

Where LeBron decides to play next year will have a huge impact on the entire league and probably kill basketball in cleveland

[D.C.]

Where LeBron decides to play next year will have a huge impact on the entire league and probably kill basketball in cleveland
Yeah, I thought for sure that the Cavs would make a serious run this year and he would stay, but after that terrible series against Boston, I really can't imagine him sticking around. Kind of amazing to hear the anti-LeBron sentiments after the guy had one bad game too. He's been putting up thirty points and near triple-double numbers for the whole playoffs - not really his fault Jamison completely stunk it up, and Mo let Rondo go absolutely crazy throughout the whole series...

[Super Sleuth]

Now, I'm no expert, but would it be fair to say that the opposition sits too far off Rondo when defending him. Sure, he's not exactly a reliable outside shooter, but it gives him a great view to see when a gap opens to drive. And God knows he can drive. Either that or pinpoint a big man with a bullet.

Anyway, Boston were great.

[SWiSH]

Let's go Lakers!

LA are really starting to roll now. Early days, but it's starting to look like another Celtics vs Lakers grand final. Hopefully the Suns can challenge the Lakers a little, cause they're going to need to be able to win the tough ones to beat Boston and the way they're playing at the moment.

Looking good though :D

6cItICUhGNc

[NiB]

suns blew it today...lakers/celts here we come

[NiB]

Heartbreaking for the suns...a million to one kobe air balls a game winner and it lands for a ron artest put back

[REQUIEM]

suns blew it today...lakers/celts here we come

Cant wait. Go Boston.

[D.C.]

Any time Kobe decides he's a one-man team and has a ridiculously unbalanced shot-to-point ratio, the Lakers don't deserve to win. However, they did, and this one will probably be over in six.

I can't see either Boston or Orlando pushing them to seven in the Finals either. The C's looked great early, but there's no way they'll be able to sustain it over a long series, and Orlando is no better (maybe worse) than the team they had in the playoffs last year.

[topaz]

Kobe is incredible, there aren't many in the league who can make those tough shots in crunch time. The dagger in front of the Suns bench...just wow.

[NiB]

Kobe is incredible, there aren't many in the league who can make those tough shots in crunch time. The dagger in front of the Suns bench...just wow.

Where I love MJ for doing it I hate Kobe for doing the same. in my mind he'll never be redeemed for all the bitching/quiting/ego that defined his career right up until last year (even in his MVP year he was a disgrace in the finals turning on teammates)

[topaz]

I used to hate Kobe too* but I think he's matured a lot over the years...I can't help but respect him now. Sure he take bad shots every now and then, but overall it's hard to not enjoy watching him play.

* Well I used to like him in his first two years in the league, but I was bitter when the Lakers chose him instead of Eddie Jones, who was one of my fav players at the time, as their starting SG. I loved the backcourt of Jones and Van Exel. I mean yes Kobe ended up being a WAY better player than EJ, but still...

[D.C.]

I find it a little ironic (and must admit to being extremely guilty of it too) that lots of Bryant haters trash the guy for being so competitive/obsessed/selfish with winning that he has no genuine enjoyment for the game anymore; yet love Jordan, even though he played in basically the same mode throughout his career (albeit without the same kind of public bitching, 'raping', and dobbing in Shaq :p).

[NiB]

I find it a little ironic (and must admit to being extremely guilty of it too) that lots of Bryant haters trash the guy for being so competitive/obsessed/selfish with winning that he has no genuine enjoyment for the game anymore; yet love Jordan, even though he played in basically the same mode throughout his career (albeit without the same kind of public bitching, 'raping', and dobbing in Shaq :p).


Hence the difference...plus Jordan's a winner, he'd never quit on a game like Kobe has several times. Jordan would carry lesser team mates then gripe privately instead of doing things like not shooting for a half

[Starscream]

Go Celtics.

3AQ3IAriL0k


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[D.C.]

Hence the difference...plus Jordan's a winner, he'd never quit on a game like Kobe has several times. Jordan would carry lesser team mates then gripe privately instead of doing things like not shooting for a half
I'm not too convinced on the whole 'quitting' notion to be honest. Admittedly, there was that playoff game against Phoenix, but other than that I'd probably be more concerned with him taking too many shots (especially now with his relatively strong supporting cast).

Jordan was clearly a stronger leader and carried himself far better on the court, but apparently he often lost his shit at training and behind closed doors (punching a teammate in the face for instance).

So Lakers/Celtics. A Finals series where it is absolutely impossible to root for anyone... On one side, Bryant, who always seems to sport a shitty little smirk, and on the other Pierce, who is not only even more arrogant than Kobe, but the most pathetic injury 'flopper' I've ever seen. :p

[Jabbz]

My hatred of the lakers overrides my hatred of the C's.

Go C's! :D

[Ad-Rock]

The only way Celtics will win is if Bryant is taken out.

[NiB]

Ray Allen you ***KING STAR !

[amcam]

So Boston break's LA's HCA...

This is interesting...

[jawsy]

Not that interesting, considering the minimal number of times that any team has defended games 3/4/5 at home.

[T Strife]

The only way Celtics will win is if Bryant is taken out.

Or gets into very dangerous foul territory.

Good to see the Celtics take that one (or, in a more openly spiteful way, good to see LA go down), but I find it a little upsetting that the turnaround came after what honestly looked like an incorrect call on an out-of-court last touch.

[Natrak]

Boston are looking absolutely locked in - particularly Rondo - and the crowd is hot. The Lakers are going to have to work very hard for this one.

edit: One smart timeout later and the Lakers righted the ship and have been looking great ever since.

[NiB]

Ray Ray 0-12 from the field....

Guess he left his stroke at staples :(

[NiB]

Despite some horrible shooting in the first half the lakers manage to come from behind and win game 7...having only seen the box scores I look forward to seeing what the hell actually happened

[REQUIEM]

Good Final, couldnt have wanted a 7th game any over way. Boston just fumbled late in the game after having breathing space. The 3pt shots in the late 4th quarter were brilliant.

[SWiSH]

-FdW9sgWxyo

[Natrak]

Love Artest, honestly. He's done some very stupid things in the past, but at his core he's just a big kid.

[topaz]

Being a big fan of the 03-05 Pacers squad, it was great to see Artest winning a championship and contributing. His three which answered Wallace's three was amazing.

[NiB]

Being a big fan of the 03-05 Pacers squad, it was great to see Artest winning a championship and contributing. His three which answered Wallace's three was amazing.

Wouldn't being a pacers fan only make you eternally bitter towards artest seeing as you guys were a shoe in for the championship that year before one of the craziest things I've ever seen in sports happened.

[topaz]

Wouldn't being a pacers fan only make you eternally bitter towards artest seeing as you guys were a shoe in for the championship that year before one of the craziest things I've ever seen in sports happened.

I dunno, the brawl came real early in the season, it's not like they were 52-15 when it happened, so I wouldn't call them a shoe-in. Honestly I think Detroit would have still beaten them in the playoffs that year, even if the Pacers had their full squad.

[Natrak]

Are you kidding? The Pacers are still recovering from the brawl.

[topaz]

True, I still like Ron though.

[Lazlow]

If ONE HD are going to start showing NBL/Boomers games, they need to ditch Carfino ASAP. The guy is putting me to sleep. He's just as bad as Daryl Beattie commentating the MotoGP.

[Natrak]

Carfino used to be a pretty servicable commentator on Foxtel, although he was best in the colour role rather than play-by-play. Haven't heard his work for a while though. *shrugs*

[Lazlow]

Yeah he's play-by-play tonight, with Bogut as his offsider. He's just so flat, slow and uninterested.

[jawsy]

He's not 'uninterested'; I'd say it's actually his total interest in what is happening that makes him a somewhat dodgy play-by-play guy.

[Lazlow]

by that I meant he sounded uninterested. He's like Kent Brockman commentating soccer.

[REQUIEM]

by that I meant he sounded uninterested. He's like Kent Brockman commentating soccer.

That would be an interesting listen. He could do the whole GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLL thing really well.

[Lazlow]

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5313/facepalmn.jpg

[NiB]

Hello free agency and hello big fat contracts for second and third tier players.....119million for Joe johnson anyone?

[Natrak]

Honestly, how else were Atlanta going to hang onto him? Sometimes you have to overpay, and while Joe Johnson's probably not going to win you a title he's a fine player.

Bit iffy on 4 mil a year for Hakim Warrick and 6 for Channing Frye. The Bucks' Gooden signing was just dumb.

[jawsy]

Is anyone going to want Joe Johnson for the last 3 years of that contract? A very good chance he becomes the new Michael Redd (particularly under the new-look CBA).

I was very surprised by the Milicic and Gooden deals.

[NiB]

80million for Rudy Gay is even worse than the Johnson signing....no wonder some teams never get out of the lottery zone.

[jawsy]

Oh yeah, it's like my brain had already tried to forget about that deal. Christ.

[Natrak]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CqDk4jAv_Y4/TC1EF9tABnI/AAAAAAAAEkM/w83MQ6fEfDo/s1600/05.jpg

Doc Funk has been killing it.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CqDk4jAv_Y4/TC1EM6w-WbI/AAAAAAAAEks/i0-1XSBL8OQ/s1600/09.jpg

http://docfunk.blogspot.com

[topaz]

lol I like the Joe Johnson one

[jawsy]

Geez, an ESPN special? Really?!

[NiB]

So the knicks have built up a heap of cap space for the big free agency summer. They give $100m to Amare who can't rebound or defend and will never be the best player on a championship team....and did I mention he's not insured after his 2 microfracture surgeries

The NBA...where idiocy happens !

[Natrak]

On the bright side - D'Antoni and Stoudemire! Together again! (It's going to be weird seeing Stoudemire play without Nash feeding him)

[jawsy]

Bosh in Miami with Wade. Surely this means the whole James tv special just got a little less interesting, right?

[Natrak]

Goddamn the TV announcement is ridiculous. I hope he adds some pro-wrestling flair to it. LeBron walks on stage and greets Stu Scott, Jon Barry and Tim Legler on a special ESPN stage brought to you from Cleveland. They talk for a while before LeBron finally takes off his suit jacket and shirt to reveal a Cavaliers T-shirt. He's staying home! The Cleveland crowd goes nuts.

Suddenly, Spike Lee and Stephen A. Smith storm the stage! Stephen A. slams Stu Scott with a steel chair (while screaming something about Slava Medvedenko) and Spike Lee wraps some electrical wiring around Jon Barry's neck, choking him out - Tim Legler manages to escape. BAH GAWD! IT'S CHAOS! LeBron springs into action! He forces Stephen A and Spike off their prey and gets in their faces. The three of them stand nose to nose barking at each other in the centre of the stage.

Dan Gilbert and Byron Scott make their way onto the stage to back LeBron up. Dan Gilbert places his hand on LeBron's shoulder, LeBron turns to face the Cleveland owner and LOW BLOW! LOW BLOW! BAH GAWD! NOW SPIKE LEE, STEPHEN A AND LEBRON JAMES ARE STOMPIN A MUDHOLE IN DAN GILBERT AND BYRON SCOTT! BAH GAWD! THIS IS DESPICABLE! BAH GAWD! BAH GAWD! BAH GAWD!

A giant chorus of boos greet LeBron as he turns around and approaches the front of the stage, he tears off his Cleveland shirt to reveal a Knicks Jersey. LeBron poses to the livid fans in attendance as Spike Lee and Stephen A. Smith stand either side and point towards The King. LEBRON JAMES HAS SHAKEN THE VERY FOUNDATION OF THE NBA AS WE KNOW IT. THINGS WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN. BAH GAWD!

[jawsy]

You've just guaranteed me as a viewer!

[NiB]

Boozer just signed with chicago...I think LeBron plus boozer,rose and noah makes them the best in the east

Miami may have wade and bosh but I think there are only another 1-2 players with contracts for next season

[Azzaman]

Will bron bron accept $16 mil a year though? I'm thinking he'll stay, but I hope he somehow finds his way to miami or chi.

[NiB]

LeBron to Miami

The entire town of cleveland just jumped of a cliff

[Emilbus]

WOW Wade+James+Bosh

[jawsy]

...and nine minimum wage guys!

This whole thing was disgusting and shameful. Wade is about the only one who can come out of it looking like a decent guy (although the Chicago meetings seem a little bit sketchier now). SVG had it right when he called Bosh a "lap dog" and James just engineered a narcissistic two week 'drama' that culminated in a television special (and that's not to mention the film crew he and Bosh have been traveling with during this time... God knows how else they can spin money from this)- quite simply, one of the most callous and heinous acts in the world of professional sports that I can think of (Boozer suddenly seems like a swell guy).

[NiB]

James should have gone to chicago...they make the finals for the next 4-5 years easy with no injury hurdles.

Even though james left like $30m on the table to go to Miami he still singlehandedly knifed an entire town/team like no athlete has ever done in the history of sports.

I loved Dan Gilbert's (cavs owner) letter to the fans

[jawsy]

Ha! Oh, shit, I just went to the site and read that letter (been driving back from NSW all day so I've been a bit out of the loop). Really nice to see someone finally say something about the way this has all played out. I know that many will quite possibly just call this 'sour grapes', but I feel it's warranted.

I was trying to explain why I felt so strongly about the situation to my girlfriend on the long drive home today and I put it like this- it would be like if I organised a party at some swanky restaurant with all of our friends and family there, only to make a speech at the end of the night that finished with me thanking you for your efforts over the last few years, promptly dumping you and then introducing everyone to my new girlfriend. She almost cried.

Also, I like that this quote:

"narcissistic, self-promotional build-up culminating with a national TV special of his 'decision' unlike anything ever 'witnessed' in the history of sports and probably the history of entertainment."

Was very similar to what I just said:

"James just engineered a narcissistic two week 'drama' that culminated in a television special (and that's not to mention the film crew he and Bosh have been traveling with during this time... God knows how else they can spin money from this)- quite simply, one of the most callous and heinous acts in the world of professional sports that I can think of".

I can't even imagine how angry I would be if I had any sort of connection to the city of Cleveland or the Cavaliers.

[Natrak]

So I'm guessing LeBron James will now receive all of the ridiculous vitriol directed at Kobe from here on out?

The tv special was ridiculous, but I don't overly care, myself.

Edit: lmao...comic sans. Really?

[Azzaman]

It only seems like a massive betrayal because the cavs have relied on lebron so completely. Maybe if they were smarter about the talent they surrounded him with he may have stayed.

I still think the smarter move would be to Chicago. That team will be going places, I wonder who they'll pick up next…

[jawsy]

Edit: lmao...comic sans. Really?

A nice touch.

It only seems like a massive betrayal because the cavs have relied on lebron so completely.

This is a very silly statement.

Maybe if they were smarter about the talent they surrounded him with he may have stayed.

Ownership consistently made moves to add more talent to the team (no matter the financial implications), and personnel decisions came approved by James. They also hammered out the details of a sign and trade for Bosh with Toronto (although James and Bosh weren't involved in that process; it was then nixed by, well, at least Bosh). James had as much of a hand in shaping that team as anyone.

[Azzaman]

I don't think it's that silly, how far do you see Cleveland going next year? I honestly can't see them going very far at all.

I don't know how much to believe of those stories that James was essentially the GM, or okayed every move the GM made. For all we know the GM made the decisions went to lebron and he was like "yeah, whatever, why are you coming to me with this?". It's all 'sources' and no actual names.

[jawsy]

It seems like a massive betrayal exactly because James was the face of that franchise and their superstar. Of course teams 'rely' on their superstars. They also surrounded him with a large number of all-stars (I still don't count Mo Williams... :p ) and very competent role players. To answer your question, Cleveland were still going to be one of the top three teams in the East, and we all saw exactly how level that field was this year (anyone of the big teams could have come through and we would have thought 'makes sense').

The Cavs relied on James exactly as much as you would expect a franchise to rely on a max-contract superstar who wants to be 'King'- a whole freakin' heap.

I certainly don't think that James was obligated to re-sign with the Cavs. What I do think he was obligated to do though was to handle his exit in a dignified and reasonable manner. You know, as opposed to the narcissistic, self-serving, aggrandizing and ultimately foul manner he chose to employ.

Also, I never implied that James was for all intents and purposes acting as GM, but you are deluded if you think that a club hell-bent on pleasing this guy and persuading him to sign on for six more years was not running proposed personnel decisions by him, or letting him push them in certain directions (see: Jamison, Antawn).

[Azzaman]

I think Dan Gilbert is making a complete ass of himself with these comments and they're really gonna bite him in the ass if he's not careful.

[topaz]

A day later, I'm still shocked. Wade, Bosh & LeBron, all in their primes, on the same team?? *passes out again*

[jawsy]

Do you think Joe Johnson fainted when he realised he ended up as the highest paid player out of this free agency?

[Azzaman]

so who's interested in the new hyper nba fantasy season?

[Natrak]

I think I might be down for it this year.

[topaz]

Count me in!

[Azzaman]

Just two ppl? lol, the teams would be like east v west

[jawsy]

Oh, I'm in again, I just didn't feel the need to confirm. I also have a few pals who would be happy to jump in as well.

[Jabbz]

I'm out, and will set it up now and try to pass control over to Azza.

Edit: Azza has LM powers but I cannot remove myself. So, I can either delete the league and Azza start one, or somone takes my team on a sharing mode.

Let me know whats wanted.

[Azzaman]

Maybe just start another one, will prob do it in the next few weeks

[Azzaman]

Just an update: I have really slow and unreliable net for the foreseeable future. I don't think I'm the best person to be organising this league. That said I only got 2 okay's last time I put it out there, so I'm guessing there won't be much interest anyway, do we want this league to continue?

On another note I am very stoked for basketball this year. I can't wait to see the heat and bulls in action and I will be watching tons of nbl on one as well.

tis going to be awesome.

[NiB]

Gonna be great watching Durant tear up the entire league :D

[Natrak]

NBL's coming to One? Nice.

[topaz]

You guys seen this jesus glitch yet? I'm crying over here LMAO

WARNING: contains coarse language
FLPGDyE5pEE

[Ad-Rock]

Anyone caught any of the NBL so far?

I watched Kings v Tigers on Friday night. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality (and unsurprised that both teams were shooting in the low 30s).

[NiB]

Tigers have 4 7 footer's in their rotation and it didn't work at all.

Also, everyone needs to youtube "nike mvpuppets"

[Zace]

Thank god the season had started. Also Miami currently looking bad.

[Ad-Rock]

Yeah looking forward to watching the double header on ONE tonight. Miami v Boston and Lakers v Houston. There should be some real quality on show!

EDIT: God damn it! I stumbled across the Miami Boston result.

Boston won

[NiB]

Boston's D has been incredible

[Emilbus]

New technical foul rule is total BS..i know they don't want players complaining about officials but the refs are calling them at the slightest sign of emotion shown by the players. Playoffs is going to be interesting.

[NiB]

The Utah Miami/Orlando games were ***king nuts.

Cannot believe the Jazz came back to win em both.

This season has started in tremendous shape, can't wait to see where everyone sits come all star break. Miami are only looking good when either James or Wade are on the bench

[Knuckle Children]

You guys seen this jesus glitch yet? I'm crying over here LMAO

WARNING: contains coarse language
FLPGDyE5pEE

Now that's some pretty funny shit.

[T Strife]

So... One HD apparently had 'technical difficulties' with today's NBA game, and have attempted to plug the hole with NBL instead. Oh dear.

[Dukotoja]

im so ****ing sick of this one HD bullshit, i was really looking forward to this game. assholes.

[Azzaman]

Huh? I watched the game today no probs, was it the replay your talking about?

[Dukotoja]

yeah.

[nonch]

Are we ever going to get any Spurs games on One? Top team in the league, yet every time I check out a game it's another Bucks or Heat match:mad:

[NiB]

Heat are the it team of the season and the bucks have Bogut so that's got them lots of coverage

[Lazlow]

im so ****ing sick of this one HD bullshit, i was really looking forward to this game. assholes.

You might be interested in my newsletter (http://hyper.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=21437)

[Azzaman]

So the all-star starting lineups are out. Anyone have any comments? I think the east is pretty much spot on. Rondo should get a spot on the bench, cause he could've easily taking the starting spot as well - that said I voted rose myself - the west though, the center spot is just dumb, Yao, bynum or nene? Really?

[nonch]

Yeah the centre spot in the west is very weak. Would've liked to see Blake Griffin starting - even though I'm a Spurs fan that dude is very quickly becoming my favourite player. But yeah, East should win comfortably.

[Emilbus]

Allen breaks Miller 3pt record! Tuned in late to see him break it and it was the record breaking shot as I turned the tv on.

[Jabbz]

I'm glad for Allen, it couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke than he, and the way Reggie took it was quite good too.

Am watching NBL, and it looks so.... archaic? I guess thats the word I'm after. Constant full court press and zone.... it just seems wrong.

[Azzaman]

I keep trying to tell my wife why I prefer NBA over NBL (I still go see the occasional 36ers game mind you), It's just not even close. The skills shown in the NBA are so far ahead of the NBL it's not even funny.

[Super Sleuth]

It's a little funny.

[Azzaman]

Only if you play Yakety Sax during nbl games...

[sausage]

Aussie tears because a NZ team is leading the league.

[nonch]

I don't think anyone really cares. Are the players from NZ?

[nonch]

Every team I have followed in the NBL has been aborted. East Side Spectres, South East Melb Magic, Vic Titans, Vic Dragons. Even the Sydney Kings, who I always had a soft spot for, so I'm all out of caring about it I'm afraid.

[sausage]

Ok that's enough now I'm getting aussie tears tsunami warnings over here.

[sausage]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3357/3255003144_1c43827661_o.jpg

[Lazlow]

I know sweet f*** all about the technicalities of basketball, but last weekend I watched Lakers v Spurs (good game), then the NBL game that was after (Kings v 36ers i think), and the main difference I noticed was that NBL is faster paced but more repetitive in what they actually do. Also, poor fundamentals.

[sausage]

geez, with fan attitudes like this no wonder your teams are tanking.

[Lazlow]

FWIW I didn't hate watching NBL. It was still entertaining.

[Azzaman]

I need to move to Miami...

[Azzaman]

Anyone watching the all star games? Being on night shift is killing me, waiting for free moments overnight to watch the games, it's been fairly busy the last few nights also.

Justin Beiber has got a mad cross, awkward looking shot though, Scottie Pippen wasn't even trying and I don't think he missed a 3pt shot...

Gonna watch the rookie-sophomore game and dunk comp tonight

EDIT: My friend tells me that Griffin dunked over a car. I need to watch this

[sausage]

Nah, I'm too busy watching the breakers smash the gold coast blaze.

[topaz]

Griffin's over-the-car dunk wasn't THAT impressive...his 360 dunk was nice though. DeMar DeRozan had two of the best dunks in the whole comp yet didn't advance to the final, it's a crime really.

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[Jabbz]

I really wish One had shown the all star weekend. And yeah, that dunk of griffins wasnt that good. If the car had been longways, that would have rocked though.

[jawsy]

If you didn't think it was impressive, you're nuts.

[nonch]

Like to see some of these guys jump over a car, let alone catch a ball midair and dunk it...

[Emilbus]

It's nice to see the dunk contest going up hill the last few years because afew years ago it was atrocious.

[Lazlow]

So I checked out a few of the dunks on youtube, DeMar DeRozan's two, and Serge Ibaka's foul line dunk were more impressive that Blake Griffin jumping the hood of a car, or his windmill alley oop.

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[[m]averick]

Demar Derozan was insane. Wouldve loved to have seen him in the final. He was practicing a cartwheel dunk. Wouldve been amazing to see that attempted.

[Lazlow]

So was Griffin's dunk over the hood of a car merely a promo sport for Kia?

[NiB]

Griffins car dunk was shit, Ibaka's foul line dunk was further than Dr J and MJ managed (foot actually behind the line)

[Azzaman]

Big trade week in the nba. any thoughts? I think NJ have lucked out with how the chips have fallen, dwill is a better fit there and it puts them in a good position to go after more talent in the future.

I also think NY is going to have a good finish to the end of this season, Billups is a good player to go beside melo and amare, shame they gutted the roster to get there though...

[nonch]

Big trade week in the nba. any thoughts? I think NJ have lucked out with how the chips have fallen, dwill is a better fit there and it puts them in a good position to go after more talent in the future.

I also think NY is going to have a good finish to the end of this season, Billups is a good player to go beside melo and amare, shame they gutted the roster to get there though...

Sounds to me like the Nets have screwed the pooch, unfortunately.
Williams will be a free agent after next season and is apparently unhappy about the trade, so there is a pretty good chance he will walk after a season and a half.
And they gave up too much to get him - Favors, Harris and two first round picks.
I really can't see this being a good thing for the Nets.

NY on the other hand, now have what looks to be a great balance of star players, and will be a very tough match up come playoffs.

[Azzaman]

wait... he didn't sign an extension? I just assumed, if he didn't sign anything yeah, nets f--ked up bigtime.

[NiB]

Months and months of generic trade talk and Melo finally gets dealt. Then outta the blue D Will to the nets

I can't think of who the nets would be targeting to bring in around him. There's no big free agents due next year with the expected lockout ( Williams will have to sign an extension so he doesn't miss out on millions thnx to the new cba )

[[m]averick]

No surprise that D-Will is gone. The rumour floating round is Sloane retired because of a massive bust-up with Williams.

Not sure about the Melo trade. NY already have an awesome offensive beast who goes to sleep on D, not sure they needed another one.

EDIT: reading that D-Will found out about his trade via the media!

[NiB]

Safe to say the Jazz higher ups don't give a stuff about D Will after he got Sloan out.

Atlanta looking to get Kirk Heinrich from Wiz for the playoffs.

[Jabbz]

Yeah, D-Will to the nets seemed a little wrong to me. As for NY getting Melo? Meh. Billups will be wasted at NY I feel, hes not so good with up tempo play.

As much as people will laugh at me, I like the Troy Murphy to Golden state. Hoping that move will wake him up a little, get him out of his funk, with Curry setting him and up, its a good fit for me.

[jawsy]

Troy Murphy will be bought out.

Nets ended up the winners of the Carmelo sweepstakes. Williams is a better fit for them (not to mention a better fit for NY. This is the best part of the trade. They stuck around long enough to make the Knicks gut their roster and then pulled a better trade out of their back pocket. Apparently NY had no idea that Williams was available, and there is no way Utah/NJ pulled this off overnight. Also, when exactly did Mozgov become the key for Denver? Ha!) and an astounding upgrade over Harris. I can't imagine Favors ever really turning out to be that big of a loss either. The two draft picks they gave up, however, are surely the key for the Jazz, seeing as one is the Nets' own unprotected. The biggest mistake the Nets made was giving money to average players last off-season (Morrow, Outlaw and Petro, although Morrow should benefit from Williams).

Knicks will struggle under the new CBA, unless they retain the right to s&t Billups at the end of 2012.

Millsap, Jefferson and Favors? Someone else is moving on (although I'm not sure who would bite on Jefferson).

Davis to the Cavs for Mo Williams? That's a weird sideways trade if ever I have seen one (although the Cavs were obviously motivated by the draft pick, while the Clips are betting on the draft being weeeak).

Hinrich to the Hawks is a great move. He has pretty consistently been the best player for the Wizards while he has been on the court.

[[m]averick]

Maybe the Clips are trying to clear some money for a franchise player to go with Griffin.


Apparently NY had no idea that Williams was available


Neither did Williams.

Wonder when he'll make his first appearance for Nets. Rumours circulating yesterday that he was refusing to board a plane.

[Azzaman]

Wow, breach of contract much?

[jawsy]

averick;1275853']Maybe the Clips are trying to clear some money for a franchise player to go with Griffin.

Oh man, that's a good one!

[Natrak]

Wow, breach of contract much?

Not at all.

[Azzaman]

Not at all.

Huh? He can't refuse to play for a team he's been traded to. Utah own his Player rights and he has no say in any trade.

[[m]averick]

Lakers vs. Heat on right now on One HD. Amazing start so far.

Great opening bake by Barkley. Everything he said about the Heat is exactly right and everyone is having a great time watching them struggle against .500 teams.