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McChimp

09-10-2009, 09:52 AM

My local (Regent Multiplex in Ballarat, Vic) has it listed in their coming soon section, which just AMAZES me, as we NEVER get anything half-decent (in the 'arthouse' style), or at least have to wait frikkin' AGES for it! Mind you, it's kind've off-set by the fact that it looks like they're not going to be showing Moon with Sam Rockwell in it, which I was REALLY looking forward to seeing.

Stevorooni

09-10-2009, 10:05 AM

I got freaked out enough by the trailer, I'm not sure if I could handle the full movie >_>

Lazlow

09-10-2009, 10:27 AM

I dunno if there's a diffrerent trailer with more scenes of the movie, but I found the whole thing kinda goofy.

Araenel

09-10-2009, 11:00 AM

What an odd place to put it.

How many screens?

They might just have less cinemas in total than other places, so it's compensated by having one big one.

Slippery

09-10-2009, 11:11 AM

Seemed pretty meh to me

Jickle

09-10-2009, 11:12 AM

Stevorooni

09-10-2009, 11:21 AM

It used to have 30 screens, but I think they might have been cut down to about 26 since Gold Class came in (can anyone verify that? I'm talking about the Marion Megaplex). In 1997 it was actually the largest cinema in the world, but I doubt that's the case now. We actually have no shortage of cinemas in Adelaide, it's one of the few things we have going for us. :p

This movie is looking pretty cool. Great horror films are hard to come by, too.

A fact not known by a lot of people about that place is that you can actually buy your tickets at the candybar. So while the suckers line up forever at the ticket counter and then head for the candybar, the rest of us can just skip a queue.

At least that's the way it used to be, I haven't been there for ages.

JubeiSaotome

09-10-2009, 11:49 AM

If this happens at Marion, that sounds like the perfect excuse for a real meet.

TAT

09-10-2009, 09:49 PM

First ever Adelaide meet?!

Shorty

09-10-2009, 10:19 PM

Finally! A city with a worse track record for meets than Sydney! :p

AranchineD

09-10-2009, 10:22 PM

Oh, a few years ago Sydney Piker Syndrome did indeed mutute into the Adelaidian Strain, they've been trying to recover ever since.

TAT

09-10-2009, 10:44 PM

Only 200,000 votes to go!

Jickle

09-10-2009, 10:50 PM

A fact not known by a lot of people about that place is that you can actually buy your tickets at the candybar. So while the suckers line up forever at the ticket counter and then head for the candybar, the rest of us can just skip a queue.

At least that's the way it used to be, I haven't been there for ages.

Pretty sure they put a stop to that. :(

If this happens at Marion, that sounds like the perfect excuse for a real meet.

Indeed. Most of my friends are terrible with horror films.

Lazlow

09-10-2009, 11:45 PM

You're friends are black? >_>

D.C.

10-10-2009, 12:09 AM

Pretty sure they put a stop to that. :(
They haven't. ;)

Mike-Towns

10-10-2009, 04:49 AM

If this happens at Marion, that sounds like the perfect excuse for a real meet.

I'd be up for this.

TAT

11-10-2009, 08:12 AM

I don't care if it was just a marketing ploy. I just got this email:

HOLLYWOOD, CA (October 10 , 2009) -- Following 2-weeks of nationwide midnight only sellouts and fan frenzy over the limited release hit thriller PARANORMAL ACTIVITY, moviegoers everywhere have been heard!

Over 1,000,000 people from around the country demanded the film play in their city by logging on to ParanormalMovie.com. In response, Paramount Pictures will release the film nationwide beginning Friday, October 16th.

Tickets for the movie will be on sale via ParanormalMovie.com by 5pm PST on Tuesday, October 13th. Those who have 'demanded it' will get the first alert when tickets go on sale.

"From the very beginning, we put this film in the hands of the fans and we trusted them to tell us where and when it should be seen. We couldn't be more thrilled by their overwhelming support and we are happy to release the film in every town - big and small," said Rob Moore, Vice Chairman of Paramount Pictures.

The movie Roger Ebert of The Chicago Sun-Times called "an ingenious horror film. It's so well made it's truly scary" is currently garnering 90% on RottenTomatoes.com.

To find show times and to buy tickets in your area, visit ParanormalMovie.com

Follow PARANORMAL ACTIVITY on Twitter at www.Twitter.com/TweetYourScream, where you can find reactions from these screenings and other news about the film. Fans can also post their reactions at Facebook.com/ParanormalActivity.

AranchineD

11-10-2009, 11:18 AM

Great, now all we have to wait for is them to sell tickets outside of America!

Xanafalgue

12-10-2009, 11:20 AM

The trailer looks a little lame :/

D.C.

12-10-2009, 11:50 AM

The trailer looks a little lame :/
Haha, that's the vibe I got from it too. Might have more to do with the way they showed the ridiculous reactions from the audience though. :p

Lazlow

12-10-2009, 01:49 PM

Might have more to do with the way they showed the ridiculous reactions from the audience though

For me it was the fact that anything that was supposedly scary being shown, was a bit goofy (ie sheet moving, door slamming). Its like a lame Chinese ghost film >_>

Hyperblau

12-10-2009, 01:56 PM

A fact not known by a lot of people about that place is that you can actually buy your tickets at the candybar. So while the suckers line up forever at the ticket counter and then head for the candybar, the rest of us can just skip a queue.

At least that's the way it used to be, I haven't been there for ages.

Still works but please don't spread the word, it makes things soooooo much easier.

TAT

29-10-2009, 09:45 PM

The Aus release date is December 3rd.

JubeiSaotome

29-10-2009, 10:00 PM

It's already played twice in adelaide over the past week.

TAT

29-10-2009, 10:00 PM

Well lah-dee-dah

Gnomey_g

11-11-2009, 02:07 PM

I scored a free double pass to see this tonight on the Paranormal Activity Australia Facebook group. My name's going to be on the list at the door apparently. I feel so pimp :cool:

Gnomey_g

12-11-2009, 12:19 AM

Movie was incredible btw. Had goosebumps for much of it. Dreading going to bed tonight I can tell you >_>

Mr.Mew

30-11-2009, 11:43 PM

I can't speak for those who aren't scared easily, but Paranormal Activity scared polygons out of me. It's built to **** with your mind by what you can't see, essentially. I don't usually care about thriller movies (Note, not Horror), but I enjoyed Paranormal Activity.

For a movie with a production value is 15,000 is impressive, shows you don't need buckets of money to make something look good. There are a lot of scenes that beg the question "How the hell did they do that?" and it has a decent level of controlled build up leading to the end of the film:

Which is abrupt, mind you. That and with the camera not moving in many scenes your mind is furiously putting together what is happening off screen, then they give you the aftermath of the situation which adds more to the piecing together in your head effectively freaking you out more. There's also a clever amount of design behind the "Paranormal being" even though you don't see it throughout the entire film. That's about as much as I'll spoil.

As B grade as Paranormal Activity is, there's a certain believability behind it which is probably the biggest continual/controlling thrill as the acting and moving camera are both done really well. It makes it feel A grade to a degree.

Although, really, just before I left I heard a woman say "I'd never pay to see this, it wasn't very good," so don't take my word for it.

Yeah, it was a free screening; woo; thankfully it was a good film. One that I wasn't even psyched about either.

fishonthecarpet

01-12-2009, 11:26 AM

Looking forward to seeing this & Zombieland this weekend :)

[m]averick

07-12-2009, 03:16 PM

Am watching this tonight. Havent been this amped for a movie in aaaages.

fishonthecarpet

07-12-2009, 03:47 PM

I really really enjoyed it.
I scare pretty easily and I seem to have a weakness for "strange happenings" around the house...

Rambo

08-12-2009, 05:55 PM

I just watched it at home, there is a DVD rip of it on the net.

Anyway, I thought it was a total let down and as soon as I found out it was fake it was even MORE of a let down. I wasn't honestly scared.

Then again I don't believe in that kind of stuff anyway.

Spudzilla

08-12-2009, 06:01 PM

Wait, when you say you found out it was fake, did you watch it expecting it to be a real life account of ghosts/demons and not just a regular movie?

/backslash

08-12-2009, 06:21 PM

I just watched it at home, there is a DVD rip of it on the net.
What you watched is more likely the 2007 version (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1179904/), apparently only the last few minutes are different - its a bit confusing. Director's cut? *shrugs*

Would like to see this since I'm a fan of Blair Witch Project/REC styled movies

JubeiSaotome

08-12-2009, 06:46 PM

Original ending is soooo much better.

[m]averick

08-12-2009, 06:47 PM

Yeah, I downloaded the original version. Would be interested to see how the 2009 version differs.

Jickle

08-12-2009, 06:49 PM

averick;1147693']Yeah, I downloaded the original version. Would be interested to see how the 2009 version differs.

2009 version's ending is pretty lame.

Rambo

08-12-2009, 07:51 PM

The one I watched

She got shot by the cops

but I've read that

she hurls her dead bf at the camera then slits her throat. I wanna see that one

Queenie

08-12-2009, 08:04 PM

I found it pretty stupid and really took me out of it when they did not listen to the advice given to them by the specialists, rather, they completely ignored it.

Spudzilla

08-12-2009, 09:15 PM

Isn't there CG in the '09 version?

[m]averick

08-12-2009, 09:55 PM

That was one of the most intense movies I have seen. Wish I watched it absolutely cold, wouldve freaked the shit out of me.

Took awhile to get going, but once it did, it was awesome. Could feel the adrenaline building in my body during the night scenes, got to the point where I didnt want the night scenes to happen. I didnt jump or anything, but totally got the goosebumps and cold blood happening.

Isn't there CG in the '09 version?

That would suck.

The whole 'totally amateur' thing is the reason it was good. Felt believable, why possibly ruin it? Either way, I'm thinking of going to see it at the cinemas if only to support the industry. Such a good film deserves support. Dunno if I could sit through another 90 minutes of Katie's double chin and whiny voice though.

By the way, anyone else wishing Micah wouldve put the camera down occasionally and slapped Katie? **** she got annoying at times.

/backslash

08-12-2009, 09:57 PM

Anyway, I thought it was a total let down and as soon as I found out it was fake it was even MORE of a let down. I wasn't honestly scared.
You can tell its not real if there's alternate endings :p Its coming to bluray & dvd on the 29th December in USA, I may buy it on bluray although the premise doesn't seem enough to justify whereas something like Rec/Blair Witch they're actually doing stuff

Rambo

08-12-2009, 10:05 PM

spoiler/admission

... Ok I'll admit it, when Katie was getting dragged down the hallway I did kinda shit myself.

[m]averick

08-12-2009, 10:13 PM

Anyway, I thought it was a total let down and as soon as I found out it was fake it was even MORE of a let down. I wasn't honestly scared.

Dude, you gotta be able to suspend your disbelief. I found it totally realistic because there were no cutaways, no interviews at the police station or anything like that.

You could believe that it was just a couple living in suburbia filming their story. I went into this movie with all the massive hype and it managed to live up to it. Just gotta stick through the first thirty minutes which are so slooooow. I get what the directors going for, but man, that was painful.

Just read how the theatrical release differs from the original. I dare say the original is better in execution, but the theatrical release will give that 'jump' and 'wtf' moment that's needed for mainstream release.

[m]averick

08-12-2009, 10:15 PM

Earned over 100 million dollars with a budget of 15 000 dollars. Most profitable movie ever.

****ING LOL.

/backslash

08-12-2009, 10:21 PM

I've got an idea for a movie about a ghost who keeps on disconnecting my internet. It'll be rated the scariest movie of all time :)

"Holy f***! The internet's offline! Oh wait, its back on" *2 seconds later it goes off* "Nooooo! This can't be happening! I can't even report this on Twitter either" *gasps for air*

edit: creepy... as soon as I posted this my internet went straight offline afterwards. I'm not kidding, I'm being totally serial here! :(

http://tehresistance.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/manbearpig.jpg

AranchineD

08-12-2009, 11:32 PM

Seriously, I thought it was believable up until about the fourth or fifth 'night scene', when the characters didn't even make any sort of attempt to leave the house, even if it was futile. And the entire movie they didn't even consider closing their bedroom door, so, I don't know, THEY'D ****ING HEAR IT IF THE THING OPENED THE DOOR AND CAME IN?

The characters were about as dumb as your average teen slash flick protagonist, by the end I really did kinda just want them to die because they deserved it for being complete idiots.

Also that's not to mention the 'low rumbling sound' bad shit alarm I mentioned in the movie review thread, which just annoyed me so much.

TAT

08-12-2009, 11:45 PM

Get out of my ****ing shop, Aran.

/backslash

08-12-2009, 11:53 PM

Watched it tonight (with the original ending), found it quite good & there were a couple of scenes where I got goosebumps & found myself staring at the hallway to see if anything was happening. At rare times the acting didn't seem that natural & their methods (as Aran said) about leaving the door open each time seemed a bit weird but maybe that's because they wanted to keep an ear out for any noises that were happening downstairs although after that one scene its a wonder why they didn't simply get out of the house even if the ghost did follow them (maybe because of the budget or keeping the experience limited to the house itself)

I'd say to anyone who likes these types of movies its well worth watching & the cinema is probably the best experience for the sound setup

[m]averick

09-12-2009, 08:56 AM

Seriously, I thought it was believable up until about the fourth or fifth 'night scene', when the characters didn't even make any sort of attempt to leave the house, even if it was futile.

I suppose, for two reasons:

1. the demon will follow Katie (followed her since she was eight) and;
2. They decided to leave for a hotel, but Katie changed her mind (possessed by this point, I assume, because she smirked at the camera).

And the entire movie they didn't even consider closing their bedroom door, so, I don't know, THEY'D ****ING HEAR IT IF THE THING OPENED THE DOOR AND CAME IN?

Yeah, I guess, I thought that pretty odd, but it was done to give it that good wide-angle shot of the house. Pretty minor thing to pick about, though.

Also that's not to mention the 'low rumbling sound' bad shit alarm I mentioned in the movie review thread, which just annoyed me so much.

That happens constantly in The Dark Knight but no-one complained about that. I'll probably watch it again because everyone has said the use of sound is fantastic and I didnt watch it with the sound completely turned up, so I probably missed a few things.

AranchineD

09-12-2009, 10:27 AM

That's because The Dark Knight wasn't masquerading as 'real', and the rumbling sound, as I mentioned in the review thread, isn't actually in the 'world' of the movie, which killed it for me.

I suppose, for two reasons:

1. the demon will follow Katie (followed her since she was eight) and;
2. They decided to leave for a hotel, but Katie changed her mind (possessed by this point, I assume, because she smirked at the camera).

But even a sane person would try to leave anyway, even if it turned out not to work. Plus, after the first time she was possessed you'd think Micah would have a ****ing clue to know what's going on when she all of a sudden changes her mind and doesn't want to leave the house anymore.

Not to mention that normal people would have tried to leave much, much before that point (IIRC when she was possessed the last time it was 3 weeks after they had begun filming the thing FFS).

Yeah, I guess, I thought that pretty odd, but it was done to give it that good wide-angle shot of the house. Pretty minor thing to pick about, though.

They're not the only examples I could list, I just rattled off the first few that came to my head. In fact, the more I think about it the more I think there's so many things normal people would have done. Perhaps one person would stay awake while the other sleeps just to keep watch?

fishonthecarpet

09-12-2009, 10:39 AM

averick;1147811']Dude, you gotta be able to suspend your disbelief. I found it totally realistic because there were no cutaways, no interviews at the police station or anything like that.

You could believe that it was just a couple living in suburbia filming their story. I went into this movie with all the massive hype and it managed to live up to it. Just gotta stick through the first thirty minutes which are so slooooow. I get what the directors going for, but man, that was painful.

Just read how the theatrical release differs from the original. I dare say the original is better in execution, but the theatrical release will give that 'jump' and 'wtf' moment that's needed for mainstream release.

I agree. I don't see all of the fuss about it not being believable - it's a freaking ghost movie!

The point of the entire movie is to show some very freaky things and give you some serious chills - the characters are just a vehicle for suspense. I didn't particularily find either of them likable and certainly would have done things different myself. Who cares? That's not what the movie was about.

You can either choose to get caught up in the small things or just enjoy what something has to offer.

[m]averick

09-12-2009, 10:45 AM

They cant leave, it would have been an exercise in futility. Their only option was to call the demonologist, which they did when shit started getting serious. It all happens over about three nights, so it happens pretty quickly. And, remember that the last night Micah wanted to leave, so really, they only had two nights to decide to leave. And, Micah wouldnt have thought Katie to be possessed because he's a disbeliever and a realist. He thinks the whole thing is a joke for ages.

I cant be bothered really analysing your points, but I pretty much disagree with everything you say. The first time she left the house (to go into the backyard), Micah wouldve thought she was just sleepwalking. Also, why would they leave just because a few doors start creaking etc?

For a movie that was made by a first time director and on the smell of an oily rag, they've pretty much hit a homerun and it's easily one of the best horror films Ive ever seen.

Perhaps one person would stay awake while the other sleeps just to keep watch?

What exactly is it that they're looking for? They cant see anything.

For what it's worth, I thought it was unbelievably realistic and frightening. But I wanted to be frightened. If I'd sat there critiquing it and complaining the whole time, I wouldve thought it was average. With horror movies, it's a two-way street, the viewers gotta come along with the director for the ride. You gotta buy in.

AranchineD

09-12-2009, 10:46 AM

Again, the film was billed as supposedly a 'real life' encounter. It should be believable, in every single way

averick;1147988']They cant leave, it would have been an exercise in futility. Their only option was to call the demonologist, which they did when shit started getting serious. It all happens over about three nights, so it happens pretty quickly. And, remember that the last night Micah wanted to leave, so really, they only had two nights to decide to leave. And, Micah wouldnt have thought Katie to be possessed because he's a disbeliever and a realist. He thinks the whole thing is a joke for ages.

I cant be bothered really analysing your points, but I pretty much disagree with everything you say. The first time she left the house (to go into the backyard), Micah wouldve thought she was just sleepwalking. Also, why would they leave just because a few doors start creaking etc?

No, see, I'm pretty sure after Micah put the powder on the floor and saw the footprints he pretty much became a believer. That point, at the very latest, was when a 'believable' human would have got freaked the **** out and wanted to leave. But the ouji board as well, when it spontaneously caught fire would perhaps be a sign to get the hell out.

And because they didn't leave, because Katie says it'd be 'futile', it just reeks of 'magic movie knowledge'. They didn't even try it, it was just a weak excuse.

What exactly is it that they're looking for? They cant see anything.

If the door was closed:, they'd see it open. Powder on the floor making footsteps. They could have actually heard the footsteps. The demon sometimes makes growling sounds. Maybe they'd see the blankets move. And all of this they saw either themselves or when watching back through the video so they could have known what to look for.

[m]averick

09-12-2009, 10:52 AM

Yeah, and it was.

AranchineD

09-12-2009, 10:54 AM

For the record I did go into the movie wanting to be scared to shit, given I can enjoy something like Transformers I know full well how to turn my brain off at the door. But this was just too much for even that.

TAT

09-12-2009, 11:05 AM

Diff'rent Strokes for Diff'rent Folks, Aran.

You watched it and missed the point and at the end of the day, you blew it.

Thraxas

09-12-2009, 11:05 AM

averick;1147950']2. They decided to leave for a hotel, but Katie changed her mind (possessed by this point, I assume, because she smirked at the camera).

I am the only one who heard that her voice was ever so slightly ****ed up at this point, like you could hear the demon talking through her?

I thought the reason the bedroom door was open was so they could film the activity happening in the hallway. Not much point filming the room with a closed door when at that point the majority of the activity was elsewhere.

As for not leaving sooner, I would have been out of that house long ago. I would have left that bitch on her own too.

On the whole the filmed freaked me out. I did feel let down at the end when katie/demon attacked the camera as I didn't think seeing the demon like that was necessary.

[m]averick

09-12-2009, 11:41 AM

On the whole the filmed freaked me out. I did feel let down at the end when katie/demon attacked the camera as I didn't think seeing the demon like that was necessary.

You wouldve prefered the original then:

in the original Katie sits in the room rocking back and forth until the police come. When the police enter the room, she mistakes them for Micah and moves forward with the knife. The police shoot her because she's advancing with a weapon

I am the only one who heard that her voice was ever so slightly ****ed up at this point, like you could hear the demon talking through her?

Yeah, it was much sweeter and more innocent.

TAT

09-12-2009, 11:49 AM

averick;1148011']You wouldve prefered the original then:

in the original Katie sits in the room rocking back and forth until the police come. When the police enter the room, she mistakes them for Micah and moves forward with the knife. The police shoot her because she's advancing with a weapon
Actually, dude:

If you watch it again (or closely or w/e), the ghost/demon actually slams the door of the room down the hall (where Katie was dragged) which freaks the cops out enough to fire upon her

indeed.

fishonthecarpet

09-12-2009, 11:54 AM

Are the alt endings on youtube or do you have to find them elsewhere? I'd check myself but youtube is blocked at work!

TAT

09-12-2009, 12:09 PM

One of the alternates: v9Js_cGCe2A

Can't find the original (but there are a LOT of ****ing stupid parodies)

[m]averick

09-12-2009, 12:53 PM

Actually, dude:

If you watch it again (or closely or w/e), the ghost/demon actually slams the door of the room down the hall (where Katie was dragged) which freaks the cops out enough to fire upon her

indeed.

Yep, you're right. Nice pick up.

dimorphic

09-12-2009, 10:22 PM

Watched it tonight and it freaked me the hell out. I really bought into it and while I agree with a few of the things Aran said I really don't care. It was a well done horror film, and genre which I've stopped watching because of the crap it usually offers.

The only thing I nitpicked with was the door being open (but I do see why they did it, for film reasons and for seeing shit happen in the hallway) and the demon Katie attacking the camera

Other than that I was supremely impressed.

EDIT: Oh and when Katie was screaming both when she was dragged down the hallway and at the very end when she was downstairs it was incredibly freaky. To me the screams sounded so real and just ****ed up and it gave me goosebumps, got me scared even

/backslash

09-12-2009, 10:46 PM

I'm reconsidering purchasing this on bluray but only once the price on Amazon gets better, hopefully the RRP of US$48.99 (but at US$27.99 atm) is a mistake and will eventually be changed closer to release date to maybe US$39.99 & then the price should be $8 lower. As with everyone I really wished it was real since I'd be all over it :p

[m]averick

10-12-2009, 08:47 AM

I'll be picking this up on DVD once it comes out. Dont normally buy movies unless it's something had to source, but, seriously, this needs and deserves support.

While there are things that annoy me a little bit the more I think about it (mainly the editing, probably couldve shaved another five minutes off, or at least made the 'day' scenes a bit more enjoyable), I'm totally in awe of what this guy has done first time picking up the bat. Reminds me that I need to watch District 9, for the same reason.

Jickle

10-12-2009, 10:54 AM

I'm really surprised by how much love this film is getting. It really disappointed me. It wasn't a bad movie, per se, I just found it inadequate as a horror film. The only bit that gave me the chills was when

Katie gets up and stands still for several hours over Micah.

I think what really bothered me is that all the scares were ludicrously sign-posted. The movie told you again and again "shit is about to go down, get ready for it", and if I'm prepared for something scary to happen in a movie there's not too much that can shock me. It gave the viewer too much control over their own emotions, essentially. This can work sometimes, when the story is moving towards a particularly horrifying conclusion that you can see coming, but I ended up getting pretty bored. Micah's ridiculous 'screw this, I'll take care of this demon myself' attitude was also irritating to the point of unbelievability. I agree that the sound editing was excellent, though.

I also got the worst audience I've ever sat in for this movie. There was this one woman screaming at everything, saying "OH MY GOD!" and "I TOLD YOU!" whenever anything happened. The whole audience started screaming at her to "shut up" and "**** off". I would have felt the same about the movie regardless, but seriously, **** that woman. **** her and everything she cares about.

AranchineD

10-12-2009, 11:05 AM

Yeah, there was a similiar group of people when I went to watch the movie, too. Except I was the only other person in the cinema besides them so I didn't say anything. >_>

Also one of them yelled out the ending like halfway through, even though I already knew it, still a complete dick move.

JimJim

16-12-2009, 08:42 PM

I'm really surprised by how much love this film is getting. It really disappointed me. It wasn't a bad movie, per se, I just found it inadequate as a horror film.

Completely agree! (Well except I'd say it's a thriller, not a horror).

--

Initially I was the only one in the entire cinema, which would have been ideal IMO, but anyway, about 8 others came in just before it started...

...a bit disappointed, it was okay, it was quite boring at times, particularly for the first half... a lot of the time I was like 'c'mon, get to the night-time already!' ...I didn't particularly find it scary at all.

And there was these annoying teenage girls there, I think one was scared, the other was laughing at her. The laughing one kept saying what was going to happen like 3 seconds before it happened, what an f-tard. Reminded me of why I don't like the cinema....