Junglist replaced by "Hex" on Good Game [Archive]

Lazlow

23-10-2009, 09:48 PM

I've got the shears out as we speak.

The article reported that junglist is going to be behind the scenes so perhaps he didn't even like presenting.

From his twitter post it would indicate the decision was out of his hands.

Also, Yug from AustralianGamer.com weighs in;
Poor form GG #ggtv - Replacing skilled and credible @TheJunglist with 'hot gamer chick' is ... quite frankly ... ****ed #abcfail

EDIT:

Only speculation here, but it appears that "Hex" was one of the six new hosts for ABC3 (http://blogs.abc.net.au/countdownto3/) (link from Oct 21 with no mention of replacing Junglist), to co-host GG:Spawn Point with Bajo. This doesn't launch until February so planting her on ABC2 now possibly helps with viewer familiarity (and flat out launching ABC3) by having personalities appear on both stations.

It couldn't be as short sighted as "let's shoe-horn in hot gamer grrrl", as they risk losing their established audience. The backlash has already been pretty phenomenal, as seen on kotaku and twitter. You have to feel for someone who is being judged before even uttering a word on the show;

Wow, people are brutal, man. Haven't even hit the screen yet, and people are cutting it down. Struggle city today.
.....
I thought we were all part of one big geeky family! But alas, so much angst!
.....
Raise your hand if you got your job based solely on your appearance. *blank stare* Yeah, me neither. THANKS GUYS.

If it was that short sighted they'd have planted Rei in the chair before now.

Ashmaran

23-10-2009, 10:46 PM

That's a shame I thought he was the better one.

BB2K

23-10-2009, 11:02 PM

TBH I'd hit her.

Watchers

23-10-2009, 11:20 PM

Eww. Piercings.

Super Sleuth

23-10-2009, 11:55 PM

They both have/had terrible television charisma.

And rubber chickens?

fishfishmonkeyhat

24-10-2009, 12:07 AM

It would seem with everyone saying they perfer Jung over "that other guy" and shitting on the new girl, it's actually a pretty good day to be Jung.

But considering he didn't even get an ep to say goodbye this is a pretty dog thing to do so suddenly.

Vindik8or

24-10-2009, 12:18 AM

I care even less about the developments on this show than I do whichever is the currently airing Channel 10 reality show. Perhaps if it was worth watching it might matter.

fishfishmonkeyhat

24-10-2009, 12:20 AM

Posting about it means you care!

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/Emoticons/emot-iceburn.gif

RunningMild

24-10-2009, 12:21 AM

Who the shit is Hex? another grrrrl gamer, or someone who actually plays games? couldn't possibly be more token than Rei.

Rei seems like a pretty hardcore gamer to me.

igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

24-10-2009, 12:29 AM

I haven't really watched good game this year, but I feel kind of bad for the guy. Being a host on a videogame show is kind of.... living the dream.

adam_91vn

24-10-2009, 03:25 AM

So people actually watch this?

Citizen Erased

24-10-2009, 09:10 AM

Two things Ive noticed with the whole good game/ game damage,

people who play games and not very attractive.
girls who play games will never be taken seriously.

TAT

24-10-2009, 10:08 AM

Someone answer the most important question: IS SHE HOT?

texta

24-10-2009, 10:18 AM

http://blogs.abc.net.au/.a/6a00e0097e4e6888330120a60b4b58970b-800wi

POSITION: Good Game SP Presenter

BORN: 31 March, 1985

HOMETOWN: Sydney

ACTIVITIES: Gaming, singing, horse riding, art

INTERESTS: The internet, Dunk, Powerpop and live music, acting, sci-fi, fantasy novels and being a geek

FAVOURITE TV SHOWS: The Big Bang Theory, Firefly, Battle Star Galactica

STRANGEST HABIT: I have a pretty weird ritual when it comes to making tea – and if it’s disrupted I won’t drink it.

MOST OBSCURE FACT ABOUT ME: I’ve kept a diary since I was six. I am obsessed with documenting my life

FAVOURITE QUOTE: “Angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of the night.” – Howl, Allen Ginsberg

MOST INSPIRATIONAL: My parents. They’re worldly and supportive, and share a wealth of knowledge between them.

WHY ME FOR ABC3? I’m fun and enthusiastic. I’m all about having a good time and sharing my geekiness with everyone!

IF I WASN'T DOING THIS I'D BE: Travelling the World
Yuck.

TAT

24-10-2009, 10:23 AM

Hrm. She's blonde and kind of cute, but dresses like a greaser.

The jury is [OUT].

AranchineD

24-10-2009, 10:28 AM

I'd hit it ftr BUT THAT ISN'T THE ISSUE GUISE

Even if she is a good presenter and such, I still think the show will probably lose the "two guys just mucking about and doing random shit because they can" dynamic, which is really what the show had most going for it.

Watchers

24-10-2009, 12:30 PM

Even if she is a good presenter and such, I still think the show will probably lose the "two guys just mucking about and doing random shit because they can" dynamic, which is really what the show had most going for it.

Indeed. There was a good chemistry there, which will probably get replaced by sexual tension. >_>

RunningMild

24-10-2009, 12:32 PM

Hrm. She's blonde and kind of cute, but dresses like a greaser.

The jury is [OUT].

And she has a stupid expression on her face. Other than that she seems fairly hot.

Also, Firefly is a favourite TV show? I'm sold. :p

FrozenSoul80

24-10-2009, 12:33 PM

Indeed. There was a good chemistry there, which will probably get replaced by sexual tension. >_>

I'd argue that the sexual tension was already there >_>

Lex

24-10-2009, 12:36 PM

confirmed for grrrrl gamer. awesome.

Rei seems like a pretty hardcore gamer to me.

seemed like kind of a dumbass to me, but regardless, she was just a shitty presenter. you can just see how it went down "herp we need a girl" "DERP GET AN ASIAN ONE HAWT ^__^"

Stevorooni

24-10-2009, 12:49 PM

Imagine if Junglist was replaced by Lex instead of Hex

Watchers

24-10-2009, 12:49 PM

Imagine if Junglist was replaced by Lex instead of Hex

Even more sexual tension!

JubeiSaotome

24-10-2009, 01:04 PM

Pity it wasn't Bajo.

Choabac

24-10-2009, 01:35 PM

I actually feel sorry for both Jung and Hex. Jung for the reasons already listed, but Hex because it perhaps unfairly put forward the notion that she only got the gig because she's an attractive female.

I think people should give her a shot to see how she actually is at presenting before they go blasting her.

JubeiSaotome

24-10-2009, 02:39 PM

Doesn't really help the girl gamer image either, when she's a typical frag doll / suicide girl clone. Because every girl gamer is some tarted up geek.

FrozenSoul80

24-10-2009, 02:50 PM

That nose piercing is kinda repulsive :/

Vindik8or

24-10-2009, 03:15 PM

Dude has lady hair.

AranchineD

24-10-2009, 03:49 PM

McChimp

24-10-2009, 05:58 PM

Doesn't really help the girl gamer image either, when she's a typical frag doll / suicide girl clone.

Well, maybe she just wants to look nice and not just like the stereotype of geekiness, y'think?

Super Sleuth

24-10-2009, 06:02 PM

Why can't we just accept that this video game culture of ours should only be discussed behind star wars bedsheets hung as a divider in our parents basements?

Vindik8or

24-10-2009, 06:06 PM

Manjaw.

EDIT: Conspicuously obscured Adams Apple, looks like Moller with a wig.

TAT

24-10-2009, 06:10 PM

For the love of God someone post that series of images likening the girl from the latest Dwayne Johnson movie to a lovechild of Moller and Tr1ggs

RunningMild

24-10-2009, 06:23 PM

confirmed for grrrrl gamer. awesome.

What is a grrrrl gamer, just out of interest? My understanding is that it was a female game journo who looked good but knew nothing about the subject material, and I'd like to think you're not judging Hex's game knowledge before she's done a single review, feature or news segment.

seemed like kind of a dumbass to me, but regardless, she was just a shitty presenter.

I agree she's not the best presenter in the world, but the interviews in her segments are (IMO) fantastic. You don't get great interviews unless you ask the right questions to the right people, so unless she's got someone else tracking down interviewees and writing up the questions, I'd say she's going a great job. :p

you can just see how it went down "herp we need a girl" "DERP GET AN ASIAN ONE HAWT ^__^"

I suppose the fact that she's doing a journalism degree and has already written for a ton of different magazines had absolutely nothing to do with it? :rolleyes:

Imagine if Junglist was replaced by Lex instead of Hex

Bajo might lose his spot as GG's biggest man-child. ;)

I'm pretty sure if she was replacing Bajo everyone would be welcoming her with open arms.

Probably. Replacing the most knowledgeable (sp?) and eloquent guy on the show with a hot chick is always gonna be a PR nightmare, regardless of how knowledgeable and eloquent she might be.

Lex

24-10-2009, 06:54 PM

What is a grrrrl gamer, just out of interest?

someone who uses gaming as a social niche to stand out in the crowd. instead of, y'know, playing games.

what I'm judging her on is;

Interests: ... being a geek

because that's dumb****ery of the highest order. what are the odds she'll use the term "geek chic" in the first ep?

I'd say she's going a great job. :p

yeah, but you're a moron. ;)

AranchineD

24-10-2009, 07:19 PM

For the love of God someone post that series of images likening the girl from the latest Dwayne Johnson movie to a lovechild of Moller and Tr1ggs

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/Tr1ggs/mollkru1.jpg

=

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/_BM2_/0000240260-33626L.jpg

Super Sleuth

24-10-2009, 07:51 PM

Wow.

That is awesome.

Vindik8or

24-10-2009, 08:22 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/Tr1ggs/mollkru1.jpg

=

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/_BM2_/0000240260-33626L.jpg

Compare:

http://blogs.abc.net.au/.a/6a00e0097e4e6888330120a60b4b58970b-800wi

skerringer

24-10-2009, 08:48 PM

If you want to show your support for Junglist, join the Facebook group!

Save Junglist!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=189532430599&v=wall#/group.php?gid=189532430599&v=info

Spudzilla

24-10-2009, 09:00 PM

My life is over.

aubergine

24-10-2009, 09:11 PM

I have to say, her look seems very manufactured, like Poochy.

Spudzilla

24-10-2009, 09:42 PM

To the EXTREEEEEME!

Cerebral

24-10-2009, 09:46 PM

Totally gave up on good game after the last episode I watched was full of ****ing painful 4chan references.

Glad I never watched the show

Good luck to the new girl, she faces a pretty vicious and judgmental audience

Lazlow

24-10-2009, 10:28 PM

I have to say, her look seems very manufactured, like Poochy.

Bit of an empty statement, who doesn't manufacture their appearance to some degree?

Unless you think its an ABC thing... which may not be the case.
(http://www.myspace.com/hexsteph)

AranchineD

24-10-2009, 10:41 PM

Well she has Assassin's Creed 2 as a background on her MySpace.

I'm convinced.

fearofthesky

24-10-2009, 11:20 PM

confirmed for grrrrl gamer. awesome.

seemed like kind of a dumbass to me, but regardless, she was just a shitty presenter. you can just see how it went down "herp we need a girl" "DERP GET AN ASIAN ONE HAWT ^__^"

...

actually, M nailed it. Nothing more needs to be said.

I liked jung. But lets give the new girl a go! I'm disinclined to believe the ABC are bringing in a (somewhat) attractive girl for ratings, either for Good Game or GG: Spawn Point (which is an awesome name btw) simply becuase they are a public broadcaster and don't have a whole lot to gain from ratings. Someone correct me here if need be, I'm not overly familiar with the workings of TV.

*Waits for REQUIEM to appear and harp about taxpayers money being wasted*

RunningMild

25-10-2009, 01:59 AM

someone who uses gaming as a social niche to stand out in the crowd. instead of, y'know, playing games.

what I'm judging her on is;

because that's dumb****ery of the highest order. what are the odds she'll use the term "geek chic" in the first ep?

Yeah, but who cares about her bio? That's probably some ABC manufactured garbage. I'll wait and see how she does on the show before making a judgment. :p

Dukotoja

25-10-2009, 02:03 AM

i do wish that jung was still on the show but i too will not rage on hex until she has proven herself rage worthy.

Jay

25-10-2009, 02:20 AM

Good luck to the new girl, she faces a pretty vicious and judgmental audience

A bunch of ****s if you ask me.

Allick

25-10-2009, 02:36 AM

Rei seems like a pretty hardcore gamer to me.

doesn't she review games for Hyper or am I wrong?

RunningMild

25-10-2009, 03:57 AM

doesn't she review games for Hyper or am I wrong?

She does indeed.

fearofthesky

25-10-2009, 10:39 AM

doesn't she review games for Hyper or am I wrong?

...and she posts here sometimes. Don't listen to Lex if you're reading, he's always like that, constantly getting out of bed on the wrong side.

Hide & Reason

25-10-2009, 11:02 AM

Um.

ABC...

What about Junglist, Bajo and Hex?

http://bayimg.com/image/daedfaacj.jpg

Banjo Tooie

25-10-2009, 11:05 AM

Manjaw.

EDIT: Conspicuously obscured Adams Apple, looks like Moller with a wig.

Seriously, **** you ****s, who is Moller?

[/Vindik8or]

Slippery

25-10-2009, 11:13 AM

Sucks that Jung isn't still on, really sucks if he got kicked, but a bit harsh blaming her.

JubeiSaotome

25-10-2009, 11:14 AM

You guys aren't really Good Game's audience (neither am I) but despite that I thought Junglist was always the better of the two hosts (including the first guy). He clearly knows his stuff and articulates it well. It'll be a lesser show with him off camera.

Didn't see this post, but I agree. Bajo could be a decent host if he didn't spend his time moving his head around.

buckstwits

25-10-2009, 11:23 AM

What about Junglist, Bajo and Hex?

always thought it'd be better with the guys and and a guest host, that would be rotated week-to-week.

Hide & Reason

25-10-2009, 11:27 AM

Well, I think it'd be better my way - and for the ABC to ditch one of its ninety thousand fusty Brit programs to extend its air-time 20-30 minutes.

aubergine

25-10-2009, 12:53 PM

Wait, is Junglist the one with the american accent or something? I had them mixed up, he's the better one if that's him. (I've just been watching a video of it on youtube but I'm still not completely sure.)

Maybe the australian broadcaster thought they should have australian male representation though. Unfortunately we don't produce talented hosts in this country anymore.

Lazlow

25-10-2009, 12:56 PM

Funny then that Junglist was born in Sydney (http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/about/junglist.htm)

aubergine

25-10-2009, 01:04 PM

Do you think he should take a class to lose his southern accent?

Slippery

25-10-2009, 01:07 PM

Funny then that Junglist was born in Sydney (http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/about/junglist.htm)

Where did you grow up?
Dallas, Texas.

castr8or

25-10-2009, 01:08 PM

i think the issue is less about the grrl gamer and more about the treatment of junglist and the viewers by the abc

also for what its worth the sections with Rei (the cute asian girl?) are pretty lame, obviously not her fault, but the whole charm about GG was that its two guys sitting around discussing games and being nerdy fags

aubergine

25-10-2009, 01:13 PM

I'll hire junglist for my OWN show, "Nerdy Fags On The Game"

Lazlow

25-10-2009, 01:27 PM

Where did you grow up?
Dallas, Texas.

And the point you are making?

StorminNorman

25-10-2009, 01:43 PM

If Hex is who I think it is, then she at least knows her stuff with regards to gaming. I think she'll do a decent job, as long as she doesn't turn into another execrable ABC "triple J YOOF" presenter.

I'm still convinced that this is being done to give the game a reviewer who knows about game consoles though. Bajo and Junglist were both pretty open about their preference for PC games.

Although if that is the case, they kicked the wrong one upstairs.

Stevorooni

25-10-2009, 02:35 PM

I think that Bajo does alright with Junglist but I don't know how he'll go without him, even though they were co-hosts but I always saw Junglist as the 'leader' of their twosome so we'll have to see who steps into that spot out of the new pair up.

I won't be on the show anymore, it wasn't my choice, and I don't agree with the ABC's decision. They offered to let me say goodbye on air in controlled circumstances, I declined because I didn't want to appear to condone the ABC's decision.

Even if this wasn't a decision made with "Let's get a hot girl hosting to bring in horny nerds!" in mind, the problem is that the audience thinks it was so it doesn't matter what the truth is.

This shit is on Monday night right? I only watch it when I remember to so I guess I'll be checking it out to see how they go.

JubeiSaotome

25-10-2009, 03:37 PM

I honestly don't think the audience watches for the hosts, they watch because it fills the void of Gaming shows in AU TV Media.

Problem with Australian game shows has always been that they've tried too hard to copy other American shows. Byteside is what should be appearing on TV, it's actually good.

Lazlow

25-10-2009, 03:42 PM

Byteside's a gaming show?!!? I thought it was a drinking competition :p

Even if this wasn't a decision made with "Let's get a hot girl hosting to bring in horny nerds!" in mind, the problem is that the audience thinks it was so it doesn't matter what the truth is.

That's more a problem with the gaming community as a whole though; unless these petty attitudes change women will always be scrutinized and persecuted when it comes to games journalism (see: this post (http://www.hyper.com.au/forums/showpost.php?p=1129359&postcount=19))

Vindik8or

25-10-2009, 03:51 PM

Seriously, **** you ****s, who is Moller?

[/Vindik8or]

I can only guess that Moller is you.

Citizen Erased

25-10-2009, 03:55 PM

Meow, cat fight.

StorminNorman

25-10-2009, 05:23 PM

That's more a problem with the gaming community as a whole though;

It's more a problem with any male-dominated area of geek culture, really. A lot of geeks perceive women as intimidating and possibly threatening, so it's no surprise that they react negatively when they see a woman encroaching on their territory.

I've even seen it happen in anime fandom, which is normally fairly gender-neutral.

It's probably an Asperger's thing, I don't really know.

grimace06

25-10-2009, 05:35 PM

It's more a problem with any male-dominated area of geek culture, really. A lot of geeks perceive women as intimidating and possibly threatening, so it's no surprise that they react negatively when they see a woman encroaching on their territory.

I've even seen it happen in anime fandom, which is normally fairly gender-neutral.

It's probably an Asperger's thing, I don't really know.

It's all because everyone watched The Wizard as a kid and if women aren't the frumpy geek who finishes third all the time theres a problem. ;)

JubeiSaotome

25-10-2009, 05:40 PM

Moira Grisham?

RunningMild

25-10-2009, 06:07 PM

also for what its worth the sections with Rei (the cute asian girl?) are pretty lame, obviously not her fault, but the whole charm about GG was that its two guys sitting around discussing games and being nerdy fags

I actually like the fact that the show talks about games and game-related issues in an intelligent and interesting manner, and breaks some of the 'nerdy gamer fags' stereotypes.

Funnily enough, a lot of that was due to Junglist. Now the responsibility falls on Rei. ;)

I really hope Bajo and Hex don't make the show a 'nerds being nerds for the sake of being nerds' affair... I mean, more than usual.

grimace06

25-10-2009, 07:20 PM

I actually like the fact that the show talks about games and game-related issues in an intelligent and interesting manner, and breaks some of the 'nerdy gamer fags' stereotypes.

Funnily enough, a lot of that was due to Junglist. Now the responsibility falls on Rei. ;)

I really hope Bajo and Hex don't make the show a 'nerds being nerds for the sake of being nerds' affair... I mean, more than usual.

I don't think we're watching the same show....

fearofthesky

25-10-2009, 08:00 PM

I actually like the fact that the show talks about games and game-related issues in an intelligent and interesting manner, and breaks some of the 'nerdy gamer fags' stereotypes.

THIS! What show are you watching grimace? Sure there is nerdy banter and what have you, but every single episode has one "serious" gaming story, be it on rip off DLC, game addiction or an interview with Gabe Newell about L4D2 being banned in Oz. They don't always come off, but I am glad they do them.

I don't think the format of the show will change much with the new host. I don't know the reason behind Jung's removal (and its shit they just dropped him like that) but I'll still watch the show, because its entertaining.

I think sometimes people forget that is why we game and watch TV in the first place!

fishfishmonkeyhat

25-10-2009, 11:11 PM

Her myspace pic is pretty hot.

I hate her.

Vindik8or

25-10-2009, 11:26 PM

THIS! What show are you watching grimace? Sure there is nerdy banter and what have you, but every single episode has one "serious" gaming story, be it on rip off DLC, game addiction or an interview with Gabe Newell about L4D2 being banned in Oz. They don't always come off, but I am glad they do them.

I don't think the format of the show will change much with the new host. I don't know the reason behind Jung's removal (and its shit they just dropped him like that) but I'll still watch the show, because its entertaining.

I think sometimes people forget that is why we game and watch TV in the first place!

I think the word you're looking for is excruciating.

Zace

26-10-2009, 09:07 AM

I care even less about the developments on this show than I do whichever is the currently airing Channel 10 reality show. Perhaps if it was worth watching it might matter.

piss off. You post on the good game forums all the time. I've seen you there with your frat boyz doing keg stands.

I for one am happy they replaced a fat overweight douchebag with a hottie. I know there's something about games in that statement.

Readman

26-10-2009, 10:09 AM

Honestly, she's pretty hot but have you ever met a chick who was into video games who wasn't completely crazy?

AranchineD

26-10-2009, 10:19 AM

Why yes, my sister was into video games and wasn't completely crazy.

Although she turned out to be my brother, so maybe that isn't the best example.

Readman

26-10-2009, 10:28 AM

You're probably just thinking of her as a brother. If you were a neutral observer, she'd probably be crazy.

FrozenSoul80

26-10-2009, 07:37 PM

And now the show is just twice as awkward as before. Not liking this change at all.

Also that nose piercing is still gross.

Watchers

26-10-2009, 07:53 PM

Nose piercings are always gross.

Dukotoja

26-10-2009, 07:55 PM

If she wears those glasses for five minutes each episode i'll be taping the season.

texta

26-10-2009, 08:03 PM

The forza review was a bit of an embarrassment but that story on the 400 project was an abomination. I feel like writing the ABC a letter: “Dear ABC, I have ears.”

Saxby

26-10-2009, 08:11 PM

This show just doesn't impress me. It's boooring.

Stevorooni

26-10-2009, 08:20 PM

Dukotoja

26-10-2009, 08:23 PM

everyone stop and appraise the situation. the show was always shit - crappy reviews, long-winded historical pieces with no lasting interest, and some very painfully forced banter between two presenters, playing out the gamer stereotype each week.

now we have the same haphazard reviews, boring stories, juvenile dialogue and tepid humour, but the lovely distraction of the blonde bespectacled belle they have absurdly called 'Hex' will no doubt ensure a loyal and commercially significant following

RunningMild

26-10-2009, 08:24 PM

And now the show is just twice as awkward as before. Not liking this change at all.

Crap, I have to wait two more hours to see it!

Unless it's on the ABC website... *strokes beard*

EDIT: It is, but I can't be bothered watching it now. :p

AnTrAxX

26-10-2009, 08:28 PM

She's nice to look at but it's hard to take her seriously. I am aware females can play video games, but her having to justify herself just seemed like she was trying to hard. Although if you were to add a male presenter, he'd have instant credibility because male +video games = not hard to believe.

Hex should stay, but she is very similar to Bajo. I liked the humour between Jung and Bajo, but now it's mainly Bajo gags which come off silly without Jung's more mature confirmation. Having 3 presenters wouldn't be so bad. I found myself missing his voice. She did well for her first episode though.

Rei's segment was annoying with all those words coming up. And the reviews were a bit long. The Random Character Generator was a cool idea.

Antwandemarco

26-10-2009, 08:38 PM

I'm sad :(

Dukotoja

26-10-2009, 08:45 PM

btw antwan i almost broke my wrists on Trials today before good game. last level on extreme is rather unforgiving

Watchers

26-10-2009, 09:05 PM

everyone stop and appraise the situation. the show was always shit

That's not what you said the other night.

Dukotoja

26-10-2009, 09:06 PM

well if you sniffed glue like i did, you'd have some inconsistencies too

Lazlow

26-10-2009, 09:08 PM

Same, but different.

The Forza review was a little embarrassing to watch, mainly due to some features not being exactly new (ie the right stick camera), and their general greeness when it comes to racing.

And whilst the graphics were nice looking, I kinda felt like the 400 article was being read to me >_>

Stevorooni

26-10-2009, 09:08 PM

That's not what you said the other night.

I wish the mods would replace you with Hex

RunningMild

26-10-2009, 09:33 PM

but the lovely distraction of the blonde bespectacled belle they have absurdly called 'Hex' will no doubt ensure a loyal and commercially significant following

Absurdly? The name is perfectly logical. She's called Hex, and she's going to cast a spell over all the male gamers. :p

Lex

26-10-2009, 09:34 PM

I bet those glasses didn't even have real lenses in them :rolleyes:

Saxby

26-10-2009, 09:39 PM

I'd argue that the sexual tension was already there >_>

What about the sexual tension between Jung and Bajo? That's probably the real reason Jung had to leave.

Edit - tap tap taparoo (http://www.myspace.com/hexsteph)

She has a killer smile... dangerous...

BB2K

26-10-2009, 09:49 PM

Absurdly? The name is perfectly logical. She's called Hex, and she's going to cast a spell over all the male gamers. :p

Don't quit your day job.

aubergine

26-10-2009, 09:50 PM

Hex? I'd have six with her, for sure.

Lex

26-10-2009, 09:51 PM

What about the sexual tension between Jung and Bajo? That's probably the real reason Jung had to leave.

...are you ****ing serious? that's exactly what was implied by the post you quoted. **** me.

aubergine

26-10-2009, 09:51 PM

I wish the mods would replace you with Hex

Time for a token female mod!

Watchers

26-10-2009, 10:03 PM

I wish the mods would replace you with Hex

That's not what you said last night.

AranchineD

26-10-2009, 11:24 PM

I have cosplayed as Starbuck. I’m not kidding.

)h(ll

RunningMild

26-10-2009, 11:44 PM

Well, it's one ep in and I thought Hex did a really good job!

She's got a really strong, clear voice, like a newsreader, and (sounds like she) knows what she's talking about. She can switch between Jung-style seriousness and Bajo-style nuttiness quite seamlessly. If nothing else, she won me over with her unashamed love of split screen. A woman after my own heart... ;)

Overall, if I'd never watched Good Game before I would have thought Hex was the seasoned pro and Bajo was the nervous newbie. Better newsreader, better reviewer- damn, I wish they could have sacked Bajo instead and gone with a Hex/Jung combo. :p

Plus, she's miles hotter than the pictures would suggest. As a poet might say, she's the kind of woman you just wanted to have sex with... over and over again.

Regarding the 400 rule feature- I didn't mind the feature itself, but my God what a stupid idea that is. The only reason why anyone comes up with a set of rules for an artistic medium is so the next generation of artists can do the exact opposite of them. Also, 'make the game fun for the gamer'? What's fun for one gamer isn't fun for every other gamer.

Lazlow

26-10-2009, 11:45 PM

I did like "Trim fat" though.

Minimalism ftw.

EDIT:

Junglist had travel plans, which conflicted with taping the season final? (http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2009/10/fans-angry-over-good-game-host-switch.html)

Cobla

27-10-2009, 08:18 AM

I love how people instantly hate her because she's a girl / got piercings / the way she looks / she's female / her crappy ABC bio / you don't find her attractive / she's a girl.

You guys don't get out much, do you? :p

My wife is a pretty dedicated gamer, but instead of hating it I think it's PURE AWESOME. Tbh I don't get why it wouldn't be awesome, and what about being female would preclude her from that level of involvement. Just because it's not the norm?! I suppose that would make sense if you were OBSESSED WITH CONFORMITY.

Ftr I think Good Game is a great show and Hex is a welcome addition. There's too much testosterone in gaming culture already, IMO, and it's good to see they FINALLY got a female presenter who doesn't come across stilted and like a fish out of water.Rei's segment was annoying with all those words coming up.I wondered if this is what Jung is doing now. If so he's going a bit overboard! ;)

texta

27-10-2009, 08:29 AM

I think it's more a case of if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

And whilst the graphics were nice looking, I kinda felt like the 400 article was being read to me >_>It was terrible. It was like watching Behind the News except with subtitles that take up the whole screen.

I just don't understand why the ABC put this show on a reasonably late time on a Monday night and then either aim it at 10 year olds or assume that all gamers are retarded.

Lex

27-10-2009, 08:31 AM

or assume that all gamers are retarded.

Well, it's one ep in and I thought Hex did a really good job!

She's got a really strong, clear voice, like a newsreader, and (sounds like she) knows what she's talking about. She can switch between Jung-style seriousness and Bajo-style nuttiness quite seamlessly. If nothing else, she won me over with her unashamed love of split screen. A woman after my own heart... ;)

Overall, if I'd never watched Good Game before I would have thought Hex was the seasoned pro and Bajo was the nervous newbie. Better newsreader, better reviewer- damn, I wish they could have sacked Bajo instead and gone with a Hex/Jung combo. :p

Plus, she's miles hotter than the pictures would suggest. As a poet might say, she's the kind of woman you just wanted to have sex with... over and over again.

Regarding the 400 rule feature- I didn't mind the feature itself, but my God what a stupid idea that is. The only reason why anyone comes up with a set of rules for an artistic medium is so the next generation of artists can do the exact opposite of them. Also, 'make the game fun for the gamer'? What's fun for one gamer isn't fun for every other gamer.

well...

Readman

27-10-2009, 08:44 AM

My wife is a pretty dedicated gamer, but instead of hating it I think it's PURE AWESOME. Tbh I don't get why it wouldn't be awesome, and what about being female would preclude her from that level of involvement. Just because it's not the norm?! I suppose that would make sense if you were OBSESSED WITH CONFORMITY.

Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer when women stick to activities that are properly female, like playing with dolls/playing house/baking, etc.

No matter how much you want to deny it, men inherently find something unsettling about women playing video games.

Lazlow

27-10-2009, 08:46 AM

Tbh I don't get why it wouldn't be awesome

There was a lot of misdirected hate towards her, which is unfair, but its not awesome to suddenly drop someone who's been there since the show's inception.

I wondered if this is what Jung is doing now. If so he's going a bit overboard!

That was Moe's handywork apparently.

Azzaman

27-10-2009, 09:00 AM

Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer when women stick to activities that are properly female, like playing with dolls/playing house/baking, etc.

No matter how much you want to deny it, men inherently find something unsettling about women playing video games.

Really? It sh*ts me that my wife won't play videogames (a short stint with WoW being the exception).

I think she did good, but she was nowhere near a replacement for Jung. I agree with whoever said it earlier, if she *had* to be on the show they should've bumped Bajo.

Cobla

27-10-2009, 09:02 AM

No matter how much you want to deny it, little boys inherently find something unsettling about women playing video games.Fixed. :p

Stevorooni

27-10-2009, 09:07 AM

Should have gone for 3 hosts or alternated between the 3 every week

Readman

27-10-2009, 09:13 AM

Fixed. :p

It's basic evolutionary psychology.

Men are hardwired to be hunters and most video-games are in that fashion. When you see women hunting, it's anti-evolution and against nature.

I'm not saying that there should be laws against women playing video games, but they should exercise self-restraint.

Saxby

27-10-2009, 09:20 AM

...are you ****ing serious? that's exactly what was implied by the post you quoted. **** me.

I thought you were talking about between hex and bajo. As though it had developed in the first episode she was on?

Cobla

27-10-2009, 09:23 AM

I'm not saying that there should be laws against women playing video games, but they should exercise self-restraint.LOL - that's ludicrous.

So do you also think that about gay people? It's against nature and they should just control themselves??

Stevorooni

27-10-2009, 09:24 AM

I'm assuming that Readman is just trolling

Lex

27-10-2009, 09:27 AM

LOL - that's ludicrous.

So do you also think that about gay people? It's against nature and they should just control themselves??

good god.

stop.

Cobla

27-10-2009, 09:41 AM

C'mon guys surely you've known the heady thrill of moral outrage? It's intoxicating!

Antwandemarco

27-10-2009, 09:55 AM

I did the unthinkable and trawled 4chan last night. The boards were going crazy with bring back Jung threads...

AranchineD

27-10-2009, 10:18 AM

I love how people instantly hate her because she's a girl / got piercings / the way she looks / she's female / her crappy ABC bio / you don't find her attractive / she's a girl

/she replaced the better host

Lazlow

27-10-2009, 10:20 AM

That's more a reason to have a beef with ABC.

AranchineD

27-10-2009, 10:23 AM

Well, yeah. It's misdirected hate, sure, but I'm entirely sure that's one of the main reasons for all this mess in the first place.

Lazlow

27-10-2009, 10:31 AM

Its a logical reaction to a suddeny change. But some of the shit I've read on the GG forums and twitter is pretty appalling.

REQUIEM

27-10-2009, 10:38 AM

So which one was Junglist? Better not of been tubby - he was slightly less annoying.

Yep Tubby be gone....:(

Lazlow

27-10-2009, 10:39 AM

He's not even tubby >_>

Choabac

27-10-2009, 11:51 AM

I thought she did alright and she knows her shit so it's all good! She certainly hasn't made the show any worse, it's still about a couple of dorks talking about games.

It's shitty what happened to Junglist though but that's hardly her fault.

Yeah, I pretty much agree with all your points.

Still, I hope they can at least bring Jung back for a few onscreen segments now and again.

Readman

27-10-2009, 12:00 PM

LOL - that's ludicrous.

So do you also think that about gay people? It's against nature and they should just control themselves??

???

I have no problem if gay people want to play video games. What a bizarre statement.

Serenity

27-10-2009, 12:01 PM

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/70/l_28b63f4dccf7456f885737c08f66bb10.jpg
I want her cat-ears. :(

Stevorooni

27-10-2009, 12:01 PM

With Junglist in a background role now, imagine him writing review scripts that never got checked over and just read live from a prompter

Hex: "... and I thought that Modern Warfare 2 was exciting, unlike me, the job stealer who doesn't deserve to be sitting in this seat, and ABC management can suck my wang, if I had one, which I don't because I'm a girl and girls can't play games... Wait is this really part of the review?"

Junglist: * whispering * "Just keep reading"

Bajo: "and I would like to add that I am nowhere near as good a host as Junglist was, or Hex even. Hell even that annoying yellow monkey thing did a better job than me. I give myself 0/10 rubber chickens and hereby resign my position in favour of Junglist.. hang on!"

REQUIEM

27-10-2009, 12:53 PM

I know its been reused but still amusing to see junglist getting some props..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfDpbNTvT_o

TAT

27-10-2009, 03:04 PM

Time for a token female mod!
Watchers is male?!

Slippery

27-10-2009, 03:22 PM

I always assumed he/she/it used a voice modulator

fishfishmonkeyhat

27-10-2009, 04:54 PM

She can switch between Jung-style seriousness and Bajo-style nuttiness quite seamlessly.

She was probably reading copy written for Jung.

My wife is a pretty dedicated gamer, but instead of hating it I think it's PURE AWESOME.

To be fair I also hate your wife.

I can't really give her any kind of feedback on her performance because the way she got the job just shits me, so that would probably bias my opinion.

I do think she's hot though, even through my fury goggles.

Watchers

27-10-2009, 05:23 PM

Watchers is male?!

Just turn the lights out and pretend whatever you want, sugah.

StorminNorman

27-10-2009, 10:03 PM

I want her cat-ears. :(

Me too. :(

Also, I have to admit I laughed pretty hard when the character generator randomly produced Margaret Pomeranz.

I'm watching this right now. Hex is really nervous.

AranchineD

27-10-2009, 10:07 PM

Me too. :(

Geez, Stormin, you're such a burg.

Spudzilla

27-10-2009, 10:35 PM

IMO do an episode where they're doing it as Miz and Morrison, Dirt Sheet style which includes throwing powder in kids faces.

btw I didn't watch it.

RunningMild

27-10-2009, 10:39 PM

I think it's more a case of if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

But it was broke. Bajo was there. ;)

I just don't understand why the ABC put this show on a reasonably late time on a Monday night and then either aim it at 10 year olds or assume that all gamers are retarded.

Since when was 8:30 'reasonably late'?

Quoted stuff

lol, the pot goes on another hate crusade against the kettles. :p

Australian Ninja

28-10-2009, 09:34 AM

It's basic evolutionary psychology.

Men are hardwired to be hunters and most video-games are in that fashion. When you see women hunting, it's anti-evolution and against nature.

I'm not saying that there should be laws against women playing video games, but they should exercise self-restraint.

Wow, some really backwards attitudes in this post. Don't know where to start. Still waiting to see if this is a joke. Otherwise it's just plain offensive.

For one thing, women have been significant hunters in various primitive cultures within the last 200 years, so that's just a load of total BS.

And saying that women should not be playing games or whatever - that just demonstrates that you want to keep people repressed and subscribe to old ideas about men being "superior" and such. SHAMEFUL. But that's my opinion, and I may be wrong

Have not seen the new good game presenter yet, but after seeing topic was interested to see the amount of pure rubbish contained within. I really enjoy Good Game - the show has consistently improved over the last year or so, and I look forward to seeing more of the show with the current hosts, but JUNGLIST will be missed - he was a fun and intelligent host who never took himself too seriously.

I'd like to encourage people who enjoy / regularly watch the show to post more, because then there will be less drivel from people posting because they are bored, or just want to take some cheap shots at people and complain about things.

Readman

28-10-2009, 09:41 AM

For one thing, women have been significant hunters in various primitive cultures within the last 200 years, so that's just a load of total BS.

Primitive cultures is correct ... we have now evolved to the point where women do not need to hunt anymore, so why are they playing video games?

And saying that women should not be playing games or whatever - that just demonstrates that you want to keep people repressed and subscribe to old ideas about men being "superior" and such. SHAMEFUL. But that's my opinion, and I may be wrong

I am not saying that either is superior. But both men and women have their place, they are just different. And video gaming is a male activity, because men have always been hunters. It is just not natural for women to play video games.

texta

28-10-2009, 10:00 AM

Since when was 8:30 'reasonably late'Since when has there ever been a regular weekly program aimed specifically at children on tv starting at 8:30pm?

I'd say it's reasonably late for a program that appears to be designed specifically for children.

Wow, some really backwards attitudes in this post.WHOA! OFFENSIVE! Who the hell are you to just attack Readman's beliefs like that?! Talk about culturally insensitive!

StorminNorman

28-10-2009, 10:16 AM

I'd say it's reasonably late for a program that appears to be designed specifically for children.

I know it's hard to tell because it's on the ABC, where they still think Triple J is "hip" and "down with the kids", but Good Game is not aimed at children.

Super Sleuth

28-10-2009, 10:28 AM

Video games are for children you idiots!

texta

28-10-2009, 10:38 AM

I know it's hard to tell because it's on the ABC, where they still think Triple J is "hip" and "down with the kids", but Good Game is not aimed at children.Yeah, I realise that.

Australian Ninja

28-10-2009, 02:25 PM

Primitive cultures is correct ... we have now evolved to the point where women do not need to hunt anymore, so why are they playing video games?

I am not saying that either is superior. But both men and women have their place, they are just different. And video gaming is a male activity, because men have always been hunters. It is just not natural for women to play video games.

Why do you insist on stating that "men have always been hunters"
Studies into primitive cultures such as the Inuit people of Alaska, Masai of Africa, Moari of New Zealand and many many more as living circa 1900 say otherwise.

If your "opinion" is REALLY what you state, then acknowledge it as so, rather than assuming it is fact. "Primitive" in this context means a hunter-gatherer society that does not use / did not develop the technologies commonly used in larger populations, it does not mean "inferior" or any other implied meaning that is erroneously used in our modern language.

*At no point am I attacking anyone's views. You are entitled to your opinion and to express yourself how you see fit, just don't expect people to agree with it. I certainly don't expect anyone to agree with me.

However, making what could be viewed by some people as derogatory comments towards women on the Hyper forums is in my view not keeping with the rules and ethics of the forum, even if no specific rules have been broken.

Stating that "I am not saying that either is superior." (neutral statement, used to justify following)

followed by " video gaming is a male activity" (prejudice, implying that only men are worthy / are able to play games)

and "It is just not natural for women to play video games" (prejudice, not fact)

Well, I'm done having a public wank on the bloody forums, (which is what this is, and something I usually avoid, so I apologise to anyone who actually entered the topic with contructive comments on the actual topic) and I will not post in this topic again, and if Readman is capable of actual conversation then I invite him to send me a PM, and I will respond in a manner more civil than this obviously heated post.

*Or feel free to ignore this altogether and talk about Junglist replaced by "Hex" on Good Game

Cerebral

28-10-2009, 03:02 PM

Me too. :(

Also, I have to admit I laughed pretty hard when the character generator randomly produced Margaret Pomeranz.

I'm watching this right now. Hex is really nervous.

She can sense the scrutiny.

Blue

28-10-2009, 03:10 PM

I don't get the news, I have a newspaper. I don't get Dexter, I have several corpses in my pantry.That's what I thought you were going to say at first. :p

Anyway, they're both annoying tossers, but at least the American one doesn't look like a transvestite like 'Bajo' does. If the new chick is hot, it's an improvement, no matter which one got dumped.

Still, it's an awful show, and feels like a segment off The Big Arvo, The Shak, or any of those crappy kids' shows.

A gaming show should try to be like Top Gear, getting away from the predictable crap, and trying to appeal to everyone, even non-gamers, as Top Gear appeals to those with little-to-no interest in motor vehicles.

They need to keep reviews short, and pack more in, like it's the WarioWare of review shows. Two reviews a week doesn't cut it.

texta

28-10-2009, 03:12 PM

followed by " video gaming is a male activity" (prejudice, implying that only men are worthy / are able to play games)

and "It is just not natural for women to play video games" (prejudice, not fact)

Actually studies into video gaming demographics show that the clear majority of gamers are male. So it's factually true that video gaming is primarily a male actively and without debating the semantics of what is natural, I think it's fairly clear that video gaming isn't a natural thing for women to do.

Neither of Readman's statements are prejudiced and they're both supported by fact. The reality is that it's your own prejudices that are fuelling your unsubstantiated opinion. Talk about political correctness gone too far.

Lazlow

28-10-2009, 03:15 PM

That's what I thought you were going to say at first. :p

Anyway, they're both annoying tossers, but at least the American one doesn't look like a transvestite like 'Bajo' does. If the new chick is hot, it's an improvement, no matter which one got dumped.

Still, it's an awful show, and feels like a segment off The Big Arvo, The Shak, or any of those crappy kids' shows.

A gaming show should try to be like Top Gear, getting away from the predictable crap, and trying to appeal to everyone, even non-gamers, as Top Gear appeals to those with little-to-no interest in motor vehicles.

They need to keep reviews short, and pack more in, like it's the WarioWare of review shows. Two reviews a week doesn't cut it.

There's only so much you can do with 30 minutes.

igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

28-10-2009, 03:24 PM

Hey the Shak is ****ing awesome, me and Eco are getting married

AranchineD

28-10-2009, 03:27 PM

Eco left the show last year OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T ACTUALLY WATCH THE SHOW DICKHEAD

The Shak is ****ing awesome though, me and Willow are getting married

Cobla

28-10-2009, 03:29 PM

I think it's fairly clear that video gaming isn't a natural thing for women to do.Really it's not a natural thing for anyone to do, just like driving a car or using the internet to communicate. That hardly makes for a convincing argument against it though.

igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

28-10-2009, 03:31 PM

Eco left the show last year OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T ACTUALLY WATCH THE SHOW DICKHEAD

The Shak is ****ing awesome though, me and Willow are getting married

Hey Ma can I have a cookie?

No dice.

igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

28-10-2009, 03:33 PM

I think it's fairly clear that video gaming isn't a natural thing for women to do.

Unless it's Cooking Mama

RINGGG-A-DING-DING-DINGGGG

AranchineD

28-10-2009, 03:38 PM

Unless it's Cooking Mama

RINGGG-A-DING-DING-DINGGGG

Gardening Mama is coming out soon too, which means the number of games women can play will double.

igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

28-10-2009, 03:40 PM

Now all they need is Fellatio Mama and they pretty much have everything women can do covered

Readman

28-10-2009, 03:52 PM

Why do you insist on stating that "men have always been hunters"
Studies into primitive cultures such as the Inuit people of Alaska, Masai of Africa, Moari of New Zealand and many many more as living circa 1900 say otherwise.

If your "opinion" is REALLY what you state, then acknowledge it as so, rather than assuming it is fact. "Primitive" in this context means a hunter-gatherer society that does not use / did not develop the technologies commonly used in larger populations, it does not mean "inferior" or any other implied meaning that is erroneously used in our modern language.

*At no point am I attacking anyone's views. You are entitled to your opinion and to express yourself how you see fit, just don't expect people to agree with it. I certainly don't expect anyone to agree with me.

However, making what could be viewed by some people as derogatory comments towards women on the Hyper forums is in my view not keeping with the rules and ethics of the forum, even if no specific rules have been broken.

Stating that "I am not saying that either is superior." (neutral statement, used to justify following)

followed by " video gaming is a male activity" (prejudice, implying that only men are worthy / are able to play games)

and "It is just not natural for women to play video games" (prejudice, not fact)

Well, I'm done having a public wank on the bloody forums, (which is what this is, and something I usually avoid, so I apologise to anyone who actually entered the topic with contructive comments on the actual topic) and I will not post in this topic again, and if Readman is capable of actual conversation then I invite him to send me a PM, and I will respond in a manner more civil than this obviously heated post.

*Or feel free to ignore this altogether and talk about Junglist replaced by "Hex" on Good Game

It is not up to me if people see the truth as derogatory. That is their fault for not opening their eyes, such as yourself.

It is also hypocritical that you attack me for supposedly saying that I am being derogatory to other cultures when it is you in fact who is being derogatory to me.

I see that you are running from the truth, which makes me sad.

Choabac

28-10-2009, 04:20 PM

Actually studies into video gaming demographics show that the clear majority of gamers are male. So it's factually true that video gaming is primarily a male actively and without debating the semantics of what is natural, I think it's fairly clear that video gaming isn't a natural thing for women to do.

From the 2009 sales, demographic and usage data report by the ESA, 40% of of people that play video games are female, and "women 18 or older represent a significantly greater portion of the game-playing population (34%) than boys age 17 or younger (18%)".

http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_EF_2009.pdf

That gap is also decreasing each year, so while its still a majority in favour in males, its not so dominant that it would be fair to say it is an unnatural thing for females to enjoy - at least not for adults.

igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

28-10-2009, 04:29 PM

From the 2009 sales, demographic and usage data report by the ESA, 40% of of people that play video games are female, and "women 18 or older represent a significantly greater portion of the game-playing population (34%) than boys age 17 or younger (18%)".

http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_EF_2009.pdf

That gap is also decreasing each year, so while its still a majority in favour in males, its not so dominant that it would be fair to say it is an unnatural thing for females to enjoy - at least not for adults.

Yeah sure they can throw those numbers out someone who plays videogames isn't necessarily a gamer. Because someone plays Wii Sports and Singstar does that make them a gamer? I've been playing a lot of Demons' Souls lately, I'd really like to know the male to female ratio of the people playing that game.

I'm not saying girls don't or can't play games, I'm just saying that because I occasionally eat some tasty cheese I wouldn't label myself a cheese connoisseur.

texta

28-10-2009, 04:33 PM

From the 2009 sales, demographic and usage data report by the ESA, 40% of of people that play video games are female, and "women 18 or older represent a significantly greater portion of the game-playing population (34%) than boys age 17 or younger (18%)".

http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_EF_2009.pdf

That gap is also decreasing each year, so while its still a majority in favour in males, its not so dominant that it would be fair to say it is an unnatural thing for females to enjoy - at least not for adults.

So in summary as of right now 60% of video gamers are male.

In perspective, if Labor got 60% of the vote (2PP) at the next election then they'd end up with 120 seats to 27.

Choabac

28-10-2009, 04:43 PM

So in summary as of right now 60% of video gamers are male.

In perspective, if Labor got 60% of the vote (2PP) at the next election then they'd end up with 120 seats to 27.

Yeah 60% of video gamers are male, but your second point makes no sense in this context. Why are you bringing two party and the Australian electoral system into it? You're just obfuscating matters.

In pure percentage, 40% of 147 would be ~ 59, compared to ~88 for 60%.

texta

28-10-2009, 04:49 PM

There are 150 seats in the house of reps.

But whatever, the point I'm making is that 60% is a pretty clear majority.

Blue

28-10-2009, 04:58 PM

There are 150 seats in the house of reps.

But whatever, the point I'm making is that 60% is a pretty clear majority.No, that was the point you were trying to make.

Besides, if I walk into a bar that has two females to every three males, I'd say that was a pretty good ratio, and like my chances.

AranchineD

28-10-2009, 05:00 PM

This thread just gets better and better.

texta

28-10-2009, 05:04 PM

No, that was the point you were trying to make.

Besides, if I walk into a bar that has two females to every three males, I'd say that was a pretty good ratio, and like my chances.That's exactly my point. You've got great odds to pick up a guy to take home to play some FIFA with. You're never going to convince one of the girls their that they should come round to play video games.

Spudzilla

28-10-2009, 05:08 PM

Most of the females in those statistics only gaming experience would likely be humming along to Singstar: Queen on Easy mode or dancing naked on their level 8 Female Night Elf Rogue in front of the auction house for gold. The statistics can't be used because they're too broad. It's like saying I'm interested in cars because I ride in them occasionally even though I don't own a car or even hold a learner's permit.

Now see how many females play REAL games, like de_dust2 servers or Left 4 Dead and we'll get more accurate statistics to work with.

Readman

28-10-2009, 05:09 PM

No, that was the point you were trying to make.

Besides, if I walk into a bar that has two females to every three males, I'd say that was a pretty good ratio, and like my chances.

This is essentially 'hunting' and provides more evidence for the hypothesis I have advanced on this thread.

texta

29-10-2009, 04:42 PM

This shit just got good.

From the GG forums

Dear GG’ers

You can't help but have noticed we’ve been quiet regarding Junglist's departure from the show which has really sucked because we're used to having such an honest and open relationship with you.

For all sorts of reasons we are unable to tell you things that have happened over many months inside Team Good Game which have impacted on the production. That's just real life folks. We know it leaves many questions unanswered but we have reached that point where we really can’t say any more than that.

But we can tell you this much…

The decision to take Junglist off air was not forced upon us by ABC Management and it's one that is fully supported by all the GG team. We are gutted that it has come to this but in our opinion it absolutely had to happen.

It's strange for us to read that so many of you think this is because we have suffered a raging case of political correctness gone mad or a wish to dumb the show down. That’s absolutely not right. We, as ever, will continue our quest to bring you the show for gamers by gamers but this has to be our last word on this – we have shows to make!

Finally, we genuinely wish Junglist all the best, and we hope he finds a medium for his awesome analysis and presenting skills that works for him.

Team Good Game Out
(Syd, Bajo, Moe, Tuk, Gog, Mafia, Jeremy Pencil, Palindrome)

And the response

I can tell you that this is a lie. There was no vote taken, no consensus reached. In fact, the GG team was completely unaware of the change until the same day I found out. The same confidentiality clause that prevented me from saying anything publicly, prevented management from telling them anything.

I have spoken to members of the GG team who clearly DON'T support this, but can't say anything publicly. Of course they'll tow the party line. They have to.

Up until now the situation has just been poorly handled. But to now LIE to your own audience, in an effort to save face for replacing an experienced reviewer/presenter with an inexperienced one, is quite simply the lowest thing I've ever seen ABC management do.

I feel now as if I'm being professionally attacked, so here's a truth bomb. In the meeting where I was told I would be replaced, the reason given was they wanted a girl on the show. "Mass appeal" was a direct quote from that meeting. After a half-hour of explaining how they'll lose their hardcore following, they responded that yes, they knew this, but expected to make up the numbers with a new following. "A show can grow beyond its hardcore base", is another direct quote.

The decision was forced by ABC management, for a mass appeal direction, and will naturally be dumbed down for the loss of experience. Case in point: Monday night's show. Both Forza 3 and Kingdom Hearts clearly written by people with no idea about those franchises. Hell, no one on the team even thought to correct the presenters on how to pronounce "Forza" correctly? Expect a lot more of that...

Stevorooni

29-10-2009, 04:45 PM

It's like the mod scandals here, but interesting!

Lazlow

29-10-2009, 04:52 PM

Well, I did say that Forza 3 review sounded horribly noobish. :/

Afterall, wtf was with showing a montage of crashes and saying they love destuction. Forza 3 has a shit damage model for that sort of tomfoolery.

Ashmaran

29-10-2009, 04:56 PM

That's pretty low, they made it sound like he did something terrible and they had to let him go. Another example of a bad decision handled even worse.

Still doesn't explain why they picked Jung instead of Bajo though.

texta

29-10-2009, 05:07 PM

I think there's probably some truth in both sides. Bajo comes on later and has a go at Jung, so it's all pretty awesome.

Here's the thread:

http://www2b.abc.net.au/tmb/Client/Message.aspx?b=59&t=151&a=0&ps=20&dm=1&m=289368&pd=1&p=1

ElPresidente

29-10-2009, 05:20 PM

The whole thing has become a venomous game of 'he said/she said' and no one except those who were in that meeting room know the truth.

The fact that it is being aired like this is completely screwed. A public forum is not the way to handle this and both parties weighing in like this is pretty damned unprofessional. Props to Bajo and anyone else who decides to shut their mouth on this issue and not throw more fuel on what was already a nasty situation.

Feel sorry for Hex. She accepts what many would consider a dream job and she is instantly the target of a steady stream of hate and sexism over something that she had nothing to do with. Watching the #ggtv thread on twitter since Monday night has certainly done nothing to fuel any hope for a time when gamers are not treated like little children because, on the whole, we deserve it.

Obviously some friendships have been lost, strained or otherwise made hellish and the workplace is most likely a bit of a miserable one to be in at the moment. I feel for everyone involved in the whole damned mess.

Also, in the interests of my good health can you please stop Readman? I may burst something with teh laughs. :P

*edit*

I think there's probably some truth in both sides.

This. I'm amazed at how many people have blindly thrown their weight behind Jung without realising none of us know what happened. I'm sorry but, unless you actually know Jung personally (Which most of us don't, some members here do so y'all aint included in this :P), trusting his word because you liked him on TV is a bit naive. Not saying the ABC story is correct either and I'm not blindly trusting what they have said for the exact same reasons. It is cool to support the guy if you feel he is correct but some of the nasty commentary from the public is the kind you can only start making if you know more facts about the story or the people involved than we do. It is just plain ugly is all.

Joel

29-10-2009, 05:28 PM

is junglist the chubby dude with the terrible facial hair?

ElPresidente

29-10-2009, 05:32 PM

Aye... the gent with the accent.

texta

29-10-2009, 05:39 PM

I don't think hex should get criticism because she's a girl or anything but taking on Jung's job in these circumstances was incredibly stupid. At best she's an idiot, at worst a scab. She doesn't seem like an idiot.

As far as picking sides go, the ABC/GG team is the one with the tv program that they want us to watch and irrespective of Jung's behaviour the way they've handled this has been truly atrocious.

Even if Jung was fired because of his behaviour, the way the GG team have responded to it has been extremely amateurish. The last statement (quoted above) is antagonistic and unprofessional. If they want to say something about Jung they should come the **** out and say it instead of making these snide inferences.

Ashmaran

29-10-2009, 05:45 PM

I disagree prez, if anything is going to bring out the truth it's the ire of the fans. There's obviously some dodginess going on here, otherwise they wouldn't have tried to cover it up and made such a mess of things.

Bring on the fury of the masses I say. Sure some of it is misdirected, but tough. If you work in that industry and remain quiet because your bosses say so, then you have to take it. Or get new bosses.

What it sounds like to me is that ABC management wanted a female presenter, and a few people inside the GG crew used that opportunity to push out Jung because they had a beef with him.

StorminNorman

29-10-2009, 05:46 PM

I've gotta say, I really don't know who's side to be on. On the one hand, Junglist got screwed pretty bad, on the other hand, I can see the ABC management side of this.

One thing that bugs me is his claim that this was done to improve the mass market appeal of the show. First off, it's on the ABC, who absolutely should never be trying to cater to mass market appeal. This isn't the Jonathan Shier days anymore. Second, it's on ABC2, which was originally intended to have a more niche appeal than ABC1.

I'm guessing that the plan from ABC Management was to try and go for a "Margaret & David" dynamic, although that's going to take years to work right, and I don't think the show will last that long. (Hilariously, they lampshaded (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LampshadeHanging) this during Monday night's show.)

I'm really worried that this will just end up killing Good Game outright before the year is over. That would be a crying shame, as it's easily the best show about video games this country has ever produced, and a very rare example of such a show on a major TV network.

I don't think hex should get criticism because she's a girl or anything but taking on Jung's job in these circumstances was incredibly stupid. At best she's an idiot, at worst a scab. She doesn't seem like an idiot.

You're forgetting that she was already onboard as a presenter for Good Game: Spawn Point, a spin-off that's expected to appear on ABC3 early next year. Initially, the GG crew tried to position her start on GG as a test-run for that show, although that was always a flimsy excuse at best.

Stevorooni

29-10-2009, 05:49 PM

Should've just brought her in as a 3rd host

As for SAVE JUNGLIST would he even want to go back on the show now? It would be pretty awkward there after all this shit.

FrozenSoul80

29-10-2009, 05:58 PM

I'm guessing that the plan from ABC Management was to try and go for a "Margaret & David" dynamic, although that's going to take years to work right, and I don't think the show will last that long. (Hilariously, they lampshaded (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LampshadeHanging) this during Monday night's show.)

Slightly unrelated, but I think I'm going to have to start banning people who link to TvTropes. I'm going to be stuck here all night now!

Lazlow

29-10-2009, 05:59 PM

Good lord there's 10 pages of this shit and I'm only up to page 3 (i'm only reading the posts made by those who work on the show).

Whilst I'm trying to keep an open mind, my cynical side would find Bajo's comments pointless. He admits to not being present that the meeting, and its easy to support the show/team when you still have your job.

That said:

I'm not trying to be a White Knight, I've made mistakes too. I've disagreed with the ABC on reviewing policies*, which sometimes resulted in footage being handed in late. And it's a shame that the Christmas special was decided on around the same time I booked an overseas trip, and neither party were flexible enough to change plans**.

But at the very, very least, I want to be honest with the community. Realise it or not, Good Game has a responsibility to show younger Australian viewers what the ABC is about. I think the appropriate term here is, "epic fail"***.

* prior history of rocking the boat
** so there was some truth to ABC's statement regarding his travel plans
*** rather immature

ThePhotoshop

29-10-2009, 06:01 PM

Why hasn't ABC banned him yet?

Ashmaran

29-10-2009, 06:02 PM

That's going to make the PR nightmare even worse. He'll just come back with a new account and people will believe him even more!

Lazlow

29-10-2009, 06:03 PM

You kidding?

If they "silenced" him, that would start a riot.

Ashmaran

29-10-2009, 06:04 PM

Anyway this is the ABC, don't they have to be transparent about these things?

RunningMild

29-10-2009, 06:13 PM

I don't think hex should get criticism because she's a girl or anything but taking on Jung's job in these circumstances was incredibly stupid. At best she's an idiot, at worst a scab. She doesn't seem like an idiot.

That's a ridiculous thing to say. If someone offered you your dream job, would you turn it down for any reason? Also, I'll bet she was offered the job before the controversy even began, so calling her incredibly stupid for living her dream and not being a psychic... I'm just baffled why you would even suggest such a thing.

At worst, the ABC probably spun some shit about Jung 'choosing to leave on his own' and there was never any indication that she was stepping into a massive shitstorm.

EDIT:

Actually, I've been very supportive of Hex, and pointed out that all she ever did was accept a cool job.

;)

Lazlow

29-10-2009, 06:20 PM

She auditioned and successfully landed a role on ABC3 (with 5 other hip 20-somethings) for the seat on a kid-friendly Good Game: Spawn Point.

This changing of the guard on Good Game (original) seems to be a rush decision by the ABC - which seems partially based on the fact he wouldn't be available to film a 1 hour Christmas special, and possibly based on disagreeing over company policy.

He's admitted previously he turned down an on-air farewell (ie Monday's ep) because he didn't want to appear to endorse the decision.

Saxby

29-10-2009, 06:28 PM

texta

29-10-2009, 06:29 PM

That's a ridiculous thing to say. If someone offered you your dream job, would you turn it down for any reason? Also, I'll bet she was offered the job before the controversy even began, so calling her incredibly stupid for living her dream and not being a psychic... I'm just baffled why you would even suggest such a thing.

At worst, the ABC probably spun some shit about Jung 'choosing to leave on his own' and there was never any indication that she was stepping into a massive shitstorm.

If someone offered me what appeared to be my "dream job" I would, as with any other job offer, think very carefully about it and why it was being offered to me.

To be honest, this argument that you can dismiss her involvement in this totally because it was her "dream job" is terrible. Is it because she's a girl she shouldn't have to think about hard things like why an established team is being broken up? Girls obviously can just follow their heart and don't have to use their head?

EDIT: And Jung's opinion on this is pretty irrelevant.

If anything she's young and inexperienced. She's definitely not an idiot!Yeah, she just needs a man to look after her. Obviously office politics is too much for such a pretty little head.

Lex

29-10-2009, 06:31 PM

Love the white knighting over this whole saga.

Ashmaran

29-10-2009, 06:41 PM

LOL they've resorted to begging...

Hi guys,

I can't stress enough to scrub 'mass appeal' from your minds. The words are ridiculous to me, and the team and no one has ever felt that it’s even remotely where we are heading. If you find you can't scrub it than at least take a look at the show over the next few weeks and you’ll see that we're not changing focus/direction at all. Yes there is some change obviously, but not to the content and definitely not to our attitude to how we present gaming information. No one is understating the loss we’ll feel without Junglists excellent reviews and input to the show, but we will find our groove again, with your help and the help of our very hardworking team who have come from so many different places from magazines to other shows to freelance game journos to just plain gamers that we thought were awesome and needed to work on the show. No one has any interest in dumbing anything down, the thought of it makes me vomit on Gog’s keyboard. Amongst other people keyboards and chairs.

From outside looking in it’s easy to jump to conclusions and assume lots of things, so try to trust that we really do care about you, we troll every day, and we feel your words. We are going to deal with this change in the best possible way we can with the tools we have, with the best possible team we can find. We are still filling our team up behind and in front of the scenes, and it’s only growing as the year turns into the next. Like Syd said, we have two shows next year, and GGSP is focused on tween, which allows us to put MORE adult content in the regular GG, something we have always wanted to do and have always fought to do.

Despite all this hate and flame, just take a deep breath. Now, exhale, and think about games for a moment, which is why we are all here. I’m not trying to make light of an obviously hard and awful conversation we’re having, but games are awesome.

Their awesome juice will seep into our souls, and we’ll be awesome again, and show you this juice as it transforms into words. The juice will then flow out of our pores, into our actual drink of juice (possibly pineapple) and then that juice will be drunk again, only doubling the effect of awesome juice which is all from games in the first place.

I very much wish I could be next to you all to talk about this in person. It's hard to express my frustration about the misconceptions I keep seeing here. I would like to give you all a real hug ....please accept this internet hug ‘O’ for now.

Those of you whom are doubtful, I do hope you choose to stay, and at least give us a chance. The show is really important to me, and us, and we just want it to be epic as it once was, with all the tools we have.

RunningMild

29-10-2009, 06:42 PM

If someone offered me what appeared to be my "dream job" I would, as with any other job offer, think very carefully about it and why it was being offered to me.

As I ALSO mentioned, there's no way she would have been told the truth by the ABC. If she asked why she was being given the job, the answer most likely would have been:

A. Junglist has decided to leave on his own accord

B. Junglist is being fired for breaching the company policy

If that's even close to what she was told, then she's well within her rights to say yes. I sincerely doubt that ABC management told her 'We're replacing Junglist with you to get a girl on the show and get mass appeal'.

To be honest, this argument that you can dismiss her involvement in this totally because it was her "dream job" is terrible.

Really? Some people spend their whole life chasing a dream and never get there. If someone came to you and gave you everything you ever wanted at the age of 24, I don't think it's unreasonable to accept the offer.

Also, 'her involvement in this'? Do you really think she played any part in this decision? I'm absolutely certain that Jung was gone before she even got offered the position. The ABC clearly didn't want him there anymore.

Is it because she's a girl she shouldn't have to think about hard things like why an established team is being broken up? Girls obviously can just follow their heart perhaps and don't have to use their head?

lol wtf

Also, established teams are broken up all the time in showbusiness. People leave for all sorts of reasons. It's not an unusual thing.

texta

29-10-2009, 06:53 PM

As I ALSO mentioned, there's no way she would have been told the truth by the ABC. If she asked why she was being given the job, the answer most likely would have been:

A. Junglist has decided to leave on his own accord

B. Junglist is being fired for breaching the company policy

If that's even close to what she was told, then she's well within her rights to say yes. I sincerely doubt that ABC management told her 'We're replacing Junglist with you to get a girl on the show and get mass appeal'.If that's what happened then when she discovered that they had in fact lied to her she should probably think very seriously about it all.

Really? Some people spend their whole life chasing a dream and never get there. If someone came to you and gave you everything you ever wanted at the age of 24, I don't think it's unreasonable to accept the offer.

Also, 'her involvement in this'? Do you really think she played any part in this decision?I don't believe that the way this has ended up would be her "dream" and I do believe that the way it has ended up has been pretty damn predictable.

People offer me my dream on a daily basis. "Congratulations you've won the Spanish National Lottery". And to think I didn't even know I had a ticket!

She's played a pretty big roll in this, they wouldn't replace Jung if they didn't have a replacement.

Lazlow

29-10-2009, 06:54 PM

LOL they've resorted to begging...

I found half of that post horribly patronising. :/

Yes it can still be "made by gamers for gamers" but gamers are also a cynical, cagey bunch. With developers twisting the arms of reviewers for good scores, a gamer takes some time to trust a source of information.

ABC's decision and handling of the consequences has broken that trust. Some people obviously respected Junglist as a game reviewer, enjoyed his on screen presence and relationship with Bajo. They don't trust the circumstances that lead to his removal, and secretiveness with which the ABC has operated.

As someone on the GG boards pointed out, previous situations involving The Chaser's and Amanda Duthie were made very public; so why the big secret?

texta

29-10-2009, 07:14 PM

There's a rumour on the facebook group that hex is dating someone from the production team.

Lazlow

29-10-2009, 07:15 PM

Its on the GG boards too, Rob Moffett who has something to do with something called Wagglemax.

EDIT:

heh Junglist got Mustaine'd.

AranchineD

29-10-2009, 07:24 PM

There's a rumour on the facebook group that hex is dating someone from the production team.

It's one of the art dudes who has nothing to do with anything.

texta

29-10-2009, 07:32 PM

Irrespective of his role or influence, if it's true it's a pretty bad look. At the very least it suggests she should have had some idea what was going on.

AranchineD

29-10-2009, 07:36 PM

Irrespective of his role or influence, if it's true it's a pretty bad look. At the very least it suggests she should have had some idea what was going on.

"Hey, I'm having sex with one of the security guards at Parliament House, I'm a sweet shot for Prime Minister now."

Stevorooni

29-10-2009, 07:37 PM

Heh, never gets old (stolen from someone one the GG forums)

http://i845.photobucket.com/albums/ab19/spacemanjase/goodgame.jpg

Lazlow

29-10-2009, 07:45 PM

Jung's ready to throw hands!

"I can't stress enough to scrub 'mass appeal' from your minds."

That's because "mass appeal" is the truth. You're asking for a lot of trust in that statement when trust is clearly an issue right now. I actually believe that you believe what you're saying, but you weren't the one who talked to upper management for 30 minutes about their new mass appeal plan.

"Yes there is some change obviously, but not to the content"

Explain then why I'm only contributing 1 token review a week? And quite possibly those reviews won't even make it into the show? A proven reviewer over 3 years has been replaced with a less experienced one. The content HAS changed, already.

As ever Baj it seems like you couldn't wait to just get on with things...fair enough if you don't care about this whole thing, but asking everyone to just forget about it by promising fruit hats and horse heads is insulting peoples' intelligence.

For my part, I've been honest about my own weaknesses in my role. There is no more "we can't say anything". I've said it. So have at me bro, if that's what you feel like.

Readman

29-10-2009, 07:46 PM

Feel sorry for Hex. She accepts what many would consider a dream job and she is instantly the target of a steady stream of hate and sexism over something that she had nothing to do with. Watching the #ggtv thread on twitter since Monday night has certainly done nothing to fuel any hope for a time when gamers are not treated like little children because, on the whole, we deserve it.

I, for one, am shocked that video game nerds have problems relating to women.

Also, more seriously, even though I have never seen this show and don't give a shit about it, conducting these sorts of internal discussions on a public messageboard is counterproductive and about as unprofessional as you can get.

Blue

29-10-2009, 07:50 PM

It was a good move to replace him with a hot chick. He wasn't very good, and she might be just as terrible, but at least she's hot. I feel sorry for Junglist; even if he's no good for being on-screen, they should have at least given him a decent position behind the camera.

The real tragedy is that they didn't get rid of Bajo as well, or at least ditch him first. He's awful.

Joel

29-10-2009, 07:51 PM

Aye... the gent with the accent.

Hahaha oh right, I always imagined that's what Blue would look like for some reason.

EDIT: Total coincidence Blue posted above me, I haven't even read this thread.

Good Game sucks, and will continue to suck forever. Changing the host won't make a difference.

Jickle

29-10-2009, 08:06 PM

Well to be fair most of us have done this for a job before, right?

Right?

I've watched exactly two segments of Good Game - the Double the First crossover (which was pretty funny) and one of Rei's segments where she interviewed some bloggers (because I knew a few of them). I've always been faintly aware of being out of the loop, but now I feel sort of glad at how casually I can observe this whole shitstorm.

StorminNorman

29-10-2009, 08:22 PM

Good Game sucks, and will continue to suck forever. Changing the host won't make a difference.
Why is that?

Saxby

29-10-2009, 08:37 PM

If someone offered me what appeared to be my "dream job" I would, as with any other job offer, think very carefully about it and why it was being offered to me.

To be honest, this argument that you can dismiss her involvement in this totally because it was her "dream job" is terrible. Is it because she's a girl she shouldn't have to think about hard things like why an established team is being broken up? Girls obviously can just follow their heart and don't have to use their head?

EDIT: And Jung's opinion on this is pretty irrelevant.

Yeah, she just needs a man to look after her. Obviously office politics is too much for such a pretty little head.

I'm guessing you're talking about things she has said because of all this chaos? You seem to be very focused on her taking the job despite the controversy when she obviously had no idea this would happen. she probably didn't know that much about GG in the first place.

Lazlow

29-10-2009, 08:45 PM

Bcc_ki-atF8

EDIT:

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o68/_Coatesy/GoodGame9.jpg

TAT

29-10-2009, 09:36 PM

She's seriously a hotter version of one of my gf's high school friends

Lazlow

29-10-2009, 10:34 PM

@Junglist

Hey Dude, is it possible that your weakness in your role was the cause for your dismissal, but when they put it to you, they avoided outright saying "you suck" and tried to make you feel better by talking about "this new direction"?

Not having a crack at you at all BTW. Red names, and GF's aside, Just curious. Would explain everyone's difference of opinion.

Oh my!

Readman

29-10-2009, 10:36 PM

Lazlow

29-10-2009, 10:36 PM

TBH I wouldn't hire any of them, if they are this willing to discuss the internal workings of a business this openly.

Readman

29-10-2009, 10:39 PM

Yeah, my first thought was "Don't they have a PR person to tell them this is a bad idea?"

Or if not that, then at least write a more non-committal press release - eg. 'We value Junglist's contribution over the years ... blah blah blah ... wish him all the best ... etc ... moving forward.'

Instead, they went and posted about their own internal workings on a public messageboard.

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AranchineD

29-10-2009, 10:39 PM

Honestly, if you were a future employer, do you think that Junglist's outburst on a public forum would make you more or less likely to hire him?

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You're thinking of the normal business world.

This is the GAMES INDUSTRY, duuuuuuuude. We're still in our little rebelling against the man phase, it's the more vocal and 'controversial' dudes who get the good gigs.

Readman

29-10-2009, 10:41 PM

What is a 'good gig' in the context of presenting TV-based video game shows? How many are there?

What's Jung's next career move from here? Give Daniel a call and get a job at Hyper?

I've seen a few clips of him and, to be honest, I'm surprised he wasn't sacked earlier.

Honestly, I spend a lot of time defending video game fans from accusations that they're all a bunch of overgrown man-children. When they act like this, it's pretty hard to.
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Blue

29-10-2009, 10:54 PM

Hahaha oh right, I always imagined that's what Blue would look like for some reason.

EDIT: Total coincidence Blue posted above me, I haven't even read this thread.

Good Game sucks, and will continue to suck forever. Changing the host won't make a difference.Ha, really? :p It's funny how you get these images in your head, for whatever reason, and sometimes they're right, and sometimes they're wrong. Let's see, shall we!

http://abc.gov.au/tv/goodgame/img/jungy_lrg_m1452883.jpg
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v653/45/6/1349881352/n1349881352_423081_5564260.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs226.snc1/7325_152509717175_721782175_3571783_7097808_n.jpg
http://media.kotaku.com.au/mt/good%20game%20photo%2020090208.JPG

Dead ringer! :D

Lazlow

29-10-2009, 10:58 PM

Blue; enthusiastic womaniser :p

Blue

29-10-2009, 11:02 PM

Blue; enthusiastic womaniser :pHa, I was trying to match my face to the pictures of Junglist. :p It's funny how similar the first two poses are, just in a very different context.

Readman

29-10-2009, 11:07 PM

I'd always pictured Blue as looking more like Daniel Radcliffe, only nerdier and with really thick glasses.

That, or like Russell Crowe in 'Romper Stomper'.
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igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!

30-10-2009, 12:34 AM

She's played a pretty big roll in this, they wouldn't replace Jung if they didn't have a replacement.

This is a pathetic thing to say, had she turned down the role the ABC could have found a replacement at the drop of a hat.

Blue

30-10-2009, 12:56 AM

I'd always pictured Blue as looking more like Daniel Radcliffe, only nerdier and with really thick glasses.

That, or like Russell Crowe in 'Romper Stomper'.That's … Quite odd, too. I'd go Romper Stomper in a heartbeat, except for the fact that I'd look terrible with a skinhead, and I can't quite muster up the facial hair. But this thread isn't about me, and who I look like.

It's about me not looking like Junglist. :p

Hm, I wouldn't mind looking like Hex for an evening. She's quite cute, in an annoying "Yo guys, I'm your typical V presenter! What's cracking dudes? I'm down with it, but a little bit kooky as well, 'cause I'm an individual. Anyway, we've got a totally rockin' show today, so stick around!" kind of way.

TAT

30-10-2009, 01:21 AM

I wouldn't mind staring at a naked Hex for a few hours, either

ElPresidente

30-10-2009, 08:10 AM

This is the GAMES INDUSTRY, duuuuuuuude. We're still in our little rebelling against the man phase, it's the more vocal and 'controversial' dudes who get the good gigs.

Not really. The game's review scene in this country is pretty tight-nit, most everyone knows everyone in one form or another. Most of the main publications online and off are not standalone entities and have an attachment to larger business which has the same administrative demands as any other.

Depending on what the word of mouth fallout is Jung may have difficulty getting into something already established. The best option would be to 'go rogue' in a way and either hook-up with someone already independant or start his own project ala Gerstmann & Giant Bomb.

AranchineD

30-10-2009, 08:22 AM

Not really. The game's review scene in this country is pretty tight-nit, most everyone knows everyone in one form or another. Most of the main publications online and off are not standalone entities and have an attachment to larger business which has the same administrative demands as any other.

Depending on what the word of mouth fallout is Jung may have difficulty getting into something already established. The best option would be to 'go rogue' in a way and either hook-up with someone already independant or start his own project ala Gerstmann & Giant Bomb.

Well that was more along with what I was thinking, whatever gig he gets he'll have a decent audience go with him because "they hate The Man too".