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Lazlow
20-11-2009, 12:49 PM
Internet search giant Google has lifted the lid on its operating system, known as Chrome OS.

The free and open source system is initially aimed at low-cost netbooks and does away with many of the features of a traditional program.

All applications are designed to run in a web browser and all the user's data is stored on Google's servers.

Engineers from the firm said the first computers running the system would be available before the end of 2010.

"We are trying to offer a choice for users," said Sundar Pichai, vice-president of product management, during an event at the firm's headquarters in California.

"This model of computing is fundamentally different."

The event follows the recent launch of Microsoft's Windows 7 and Apple's operating system upgrade, Snow Leopard.

Speed test

Google first announced its intention to build an operating system in July this year.

The firm has designed the system around its Chrome browser. The program was released 14 months ago and already has 40m regular users, the firm said.

"It's very familiar and intuitive to users - most people know how to use the browser," said Mr Pichai.

All programs or applications - such as word processing and e-mail - run in different tabs in the browser.

"There are no conventional desktop applications," said Mr Pichai. "That means you don't have to install or update software.

"It's just a browser; a browser with a few modifications."

Mr Pichai said the system was based around speed, simplicity and security.

He showed it booting up in seven seconds.

"We're working very, very, very hard to make that time shorter," he said. "We want Google Chrome OS to be blazingly fast."

He said they wanted it to be like a television, where a computer could be switched on and instantly running and connected to the web.

Google has been able to boost the speed of the system by designing it for specific hardware. The firm said that it would only run on computers using "solid state drives" instead of traditional hard drives.

In addition, the firm has been talking to hardware manufacturers to specify which components to include on finished machines.

This means that the company could "optimise" the code to run as quickly as possible, said Mr Pichai.

Memory Games

He used the demonstration to show the machine doing many common tasks such as playing games and music, as well as reading books and writing text.

Any documents and files created on the computer were automatically synced and saved on Google's servers, said Matthew Papakipos, an engineer working on the system.

As a result, he added, anybody who lost their computer would be able to buy a new machine and easily recover all their data.

"In a matter of seconds, all the data syncs back to the machine."

Although the firm envisages most tasks will be done online, it will also offer the capability to use some programs when there is no connection.

It already offers a similar feature for programs such as Gmail and Google Docs using its Gears program.

Initially, the firm envisages people will use the operating system on a second, portable machine.

Memory intensive tasks, such as video editing, would require a more powerful machine.

Open Offer

The demonstration could dramatically change the market for operating systems, especially for Microsoft, the biggest player with about 90% share of the market.

When it was first announced, Rob Enderle, industry watcher and president of the Enderle Group, described it as "the first real attempt by anyone to go after Microsoft".

The fact that it is free could encourage many users to try the system.

Currently, Mr Pichai said the company did not have a business plan but admitted that encouraging people to use the web and Google services "benefits us as a company".

Google derives most of its revenue from selling advertising around search and its other online products.

Most consumers will have to wait until 2010 to get their hands on a device running the system.

However, the firm used the event to release an early version of the code for developers.

"You can get Chrome OS up and running today," said Mr Pichai.

They said they had chosen to release the code and the designs for the system because it was based on a variety of existing open source projects such as the Linux and Ubuntu operating systems.

Open source systems allow people to tinker and use the underlying code to build and customize applications. It is normal to publish any modifications to allow other people to take advantage of the changes.

"We're looking forward to feedback from the open source community," said Mr Pinchai.



Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8369611.stm)

On paper it sounds like a neat alternative, but my problems with it are;

- I wouldn't want personal or sensitive information stored in some remote unknown location
- Wouldn't be reliable for the majority of Australians until the NBN is up an running.
- Might be a little too bare bones and lacking in options (ie some like iTunes, some like Foobar, some like WMP)

It does sound like an OS Lite for the average person, but personally I wouldn't want to use it as a Designer.

fleshtea
20-11-2009, 01:07 PM
I'm using the browser this week, for the first time. Anyone else using Google Chrome? It kinda feels like Firefox but fullscreen. I guess I kinda like it better.

(but the logo of a fox on fire is totally a huge draw for me so I'll probably switch back)

SOX
20-11-2009, 01:21 PM
Can it run .exe's and does it have DirectX?

buckstwits
20-11-2009, 04:24 PM
So it's like gOS (http://www.thinkgos.com) then?

Fenrir
20-11-2009, 11:14 PM
- I wouldn't want personal or sensitive information stored in some remote unknown location
Mozilla's Weave project devised a reasonable (though complicated) solution to this: client-side encryption. Mind, Weave deals with browser metadata (bookmarks, history etc), not really any of the larger files you expect to be able to handle with an OS.

- Might be a little too bare bones and lacking in options (ie some like iTunes, some like Foobar, some like WMP)

It does sound like an OS Lite for the average person, but personally I wouldn't want to use it as a Designer.
I don't think it would cover the average person, even.

The biggest issue I have with this excuse for an OS is the whole "the web can do everything" notion it's based on. The web is the biggest case of feature creep ever to burden the history of information technology, and the technologies of which it is constituted pretty much amount to an entangled mess of conflicting ideologies and functionality.

The VM-based Android strategy makes orders of magnitude more sense. They're right to be looking for an application platform that isn't tied to underlying hardware, but the web is not the right successor.

Lazlow
20-11-2009, 11:24 PM
I can't see it going beyond Netbook implementation. Anyone who forks out $1000+ for a desktop or laptop only to nobble with Chome OS is wasting money.

TAT
20-11-2009, 11:45 PM
SSDs only? Wow.

texta
23-11-2009, 08:15 PM
I can't see it going beyond Netbook implementation. Anyone who forks out $1000+ for a desktop or laptop only to nobble with Chome OS is wasting money.I think I'll wait until it's up and running before making a judgement like that. I think it has a lot of potential and given the quality of other products Google have produced I see no reason why this couldn't be every bit as successful.

Vicious
24-11-2009, 08:27 AM
I think I'll wait until it's up and running before making a judgement like that. I think it has a lot of potential and given the quality of other products Google have produced I see no reason why this couldn't be every bit as successful.

A full fledged desktop version of Linux will stomp it in the desktop market. Google's online apps have been pretty hit and miss IMO.

Fenrir
24-11-2009, 06:45 PM
This is accepting that there is no "full fledged" desktop version of Linux yet?

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I guess.

I think I'll wait until it's up and running before making a judgement like that. I think it has a lot of potential and given the quality of other products Google have produced I see no reason why this couldn't be every bit as successful.
No, I'm lampooning this travesty before it hits the water. Google need to learn that the web isn't the answer to ****ing everything.

Vicious
24-11-2009, 08:09 PM
This is accepting that there is no "full fledged" desktop version of Linux yet?

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I guess.

I'm saying that compared to other more popular Linux distros (Ubuntu for example) this is a joke. It has no business being used as a desktop OS.

StorminNorman
24-11-2009, 10:42 PM
In this iteration, certainly. Google aren't claiming anything more. What they're saying is that in the future, it could be a full-fledged desktop OS.

Hopefully, most people will recognise that "cloud computing" is frighteningly Orwellian before it really takes off, though.

Fenrir
24-11-2009, 11:03 PM
It doesn't have to be. Mozilla's Weave solution makes the server behave more akin to a warehouse of encrypted data, only meaningful to the person who put it there (and, I suppose, anyone who manages to prove P=NP in the affirmative >_>).
I could see standardized data warehousing services popping up all over the cloud, and eventually, separate (and/or open-source) vendors making the client programs that encrypt/decrypt the data client-side. That'd seem like an acceptable implementation to me, if a bit of a pipe dream.

I'm saying that compared to other more popular Linux distros (Ubuntu for example) this is a joke. It has no business being used as a desktop OS.
Ah, that's a different point entirely. As much as I expect this new OS to be a failure, I think it could probably grab a bigger market share than Ubuntu (unfortunately).

Vicious
25-11-2009, 02:00 AM
Ah, that's a different point entirely. As much as I expect this new OS to be a failure, I think it could probably grab a bigger market share than Ubuntu (unfortunately).

It could, but I sincerely doubt it too. Nonetheless stranger things have happened I guess.

Fenrir
25-11-2009, 02:24 AM
Ubuntu tries to differentiate itself from the Linux distro crowd, and reach out to end users, and I think it's come very far in that respect. But they're still pretty unknown in the scheme of things.
Chrome OS will probably be emblazoned across Google's homepage, gaining publicity overnight that Ubuntu hasn't managed in years - and Google have the OEM ties to put the OS on a fair bit of hardware, too. Whilst I can see it dying off in the long run, I think it's a fairly safe bet that it'll eclipse Ubuntu by a decent margin at some point.

And it still shits me that they didn't take the opportunity to launch a proper managed VM application platform like the route they took with Android. Hell, they could've come up with UI tools familiar to web developers, but with all the convoluted web cruft cut out - sort-of like Mozilla's XUL (https://developer.mozilla.org/En/XUL).