Resident Evil 5 (tag all Spoilers please)

[dj-tinklez]

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Revolution am cry!

source: Famitsu and [ Gaming-Age Forums ] (http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=55932)

[ElPresidente]

Okay that's mega awesome.

[fatbloodyfinger]

w00t! The hero, whoever he might be, looks like a buff Keanu Reeves. That'll make killing him all the sweeter.

[InfernalEternal]

ZOMG!!!

MICROSOFT AM WIN! This and *Ridge Racer* are going to do wonders for the X360 in Japan.


I seriously cannot wait. Im thinking Nintendo showed Capcom the Revolution and they went 'LOL' (Kinda like what happened with Factor5 and Silicon Knights). >_>

[bobinatcat]

okay so what its another resi evil game, buts whats the big deal, why does everyone like them so....i have number one on psone not gcn and it is nothing special although i must say i am interested in number 4

[rampaging_geek]

ZOMG!!!

MICROSOFT AM WIN! This and *Ridge Racer* are going to do wonders for the X360 in Japan.

Nah, they won't boost sales that much, I don't expect to see the 360 doing any better than the original did, tbh.

However, it's not that suprising that Capcom chose to do this, it was apparent Capcom wanted to sell more copies than they were gonna get with Nintendo. It was funny to see all those once 'Gamecube exclusives' get ported to PS2.

[InfernalEternal]

okay so what its another resi evil game, buts whats the big deal, why does everyone like them so....i have number one on psone not gcn and it is nothing special although i must say i am interested in number 4

The series was running dry and RE4 resolved that.

You have to play it.

Geek, Interesting Read (http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050719/195743.html?.v=1)...

[bobinatcat]

before 4 came out i had heard number 2 director's cut was the best one although, your opinion on that?

[ElPresidente]

I'd agree with that. 2 did rock.

[borgster101]

Capcom has not ruled out the possibilty of a Revolution version, but they have stated that they wanted to bring the series to as many players as possible and hence the title will appear on PS3 and X360! The GCN exclusive status of RE didnt really benefit Capcom that much, except for RE4 which was a great success, which could have been greater across multiple formats, hence PS2 port.

Since the Revolution hasn't been fully shown to the public yet (or even it's real name announced), 3rd parties like Capcom can't be announcing Revolution games yet, we need to know what the console is before we know what games we can play on it, and hence it's not suprising to see RE5 announced in this way at this stage.

[Choabac]

People think the main character is Chris Redfield. I hope number 5 lives up the expectations set by number 4.

More details (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/635/635113p1.html) at IGN.

[InfernalEternal]

Capcom has not ruled out the possibilty of a Revolution version...

Link? Source?

The Capcom Press Release had nothing of that sort.

[DekarTyphon]

Geek, Interesting Read (http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050719/195743.html?.v=1)...
I have to wonder what these guys are basing their statistics on. We hardly have any relevant data to go on about launch games, future releases, and God only knows what Nintendo have up their sleeve. They're probably just making this stuff up based on how the Xbox, PS2 and GCN have performed this gen.

Never trust analysers. They don't know jack.

[InfernalEternal]

Link? Source?

The Capcom Press Release had nothing of that sort.

Backing up my claims...


"Capcom has now confirmed in Japan that Resident Evil 5 will not be coming to Nintendo's next generation console. RE5 will only be available on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3."

Link (http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1121875790)

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Dear Nintendo,

I am going to kill you.

Blake.

[Joeluss]

Dear Nintendo,

If Blake can't finish you off, I will.

joeluss

[rampaging_geek]

Dear Nintendo,

I thought The Legend Of Zelda: Wind Waker was a pretty good game.

Geek.

[fatbloodyfinger]

Dear Nintendo,

I plan to buy your corpse once they finish you off and turn it into a raincoat.

fatbloodyfinger

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Dear Nintendo:

http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/4190/re4controller22th.jpg

[fatbloodyfinger]

Dear Nintendo,

Oh shit guys, watch your back!

fatbloodyfinger

[The Brett]

Dear Nintendo,

Please stop Blake posting that picture. For the good of the forum.

brettwalker37

[CrimsonFury]

Backing up my claims...


"Capcom has now confirmed in Japan that Resident Evil 5 will not be coming to Nintendo's next generation console. RE5 will only be available on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3."

Link (http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1121875790)

You left out a fairly signifigant part of the quote :p

Capcom has now confirmed in Japan that Resident Evil 5 will not be coming to Nintendo's next generation console--at least for now.

<snip>

Capcom has not given any indication that the title won't make it to the Revolution eventually. Stay tuned.


Capcom has now confirmed in Japan that Resident Evil 5 will not be coming to Nintendo's next generation console--at least for now. RE5 will only be available on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.

[Sweating Bullets]

Has anyone seen the trailer?

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=6904&type=mov

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I have now.

If I ever meet Nintendo I'm going to poke it in the eye.

[Joeluss]

When Blakes finished, I'll kick it in the pants.

[The Brett]

Ow, my pants...?

[borgster101]

Syb; I read that "at least for now" statement ;) .

All it means thus far is that the game is currently being devloped for X360 and PS3, this doesnt mean a Revolution version will NEVER be released, remember the developers of RE4 stressing time and time again that RE4 was a GCN exclusive? What happened with that, just before the launch of the game the PS2 version was announced, I wouldnt be suprised if a similar thing happened here, although I wouldn't hold my breath for it.

I'd say that the PS3 and X360 versions will have a sort of time exclustivity (common among many 3rd party games) and a Revolution version may be released later on. It depends on how long it takes to develop RE5, if they take a number of years, then by that time we will know what the Revolution is all about and by then a version could be announced to launch with the PS3 and X360 versions, it's possible but of course anything is possible, so we will just have to wait and see.

In anycase, the game looks pretty awesome, although it doesnt have the wow factor like when first looking at RE4, it's starting to get more difficult to wow us with graphics with this next generation, indeed there is a diminshing return with graphics as the generations of consoles continue.

[ElPresidente]

That at least for now statement came from Nintendojo... not Capcom.

I won't be surprised if this doesn't come out on the Rev. I don't think Capcom are so enthused about Nintendo as they once were. I could be wrong though.

[borgster101]

That at least for now statement came from Nintendojo... not Capcom.

I won't be surprised if this doesn't come out on the Rev. I don't think Capcom are so enthused about Nintendo as they once were. I could be wrong though.

I'd say you're wrong :P , but I would agree that Capcom will be far less likely to provide exclusive content to Nintendo consoles in the next generation, unless of course said game used a machines unique features, (eg. Viewtiful Joe DS, and whatever Revolution turns out to be) .

[ElPresidente]

I should state that I'm limiting that comment to the home console market. Nintendo is still uber strong in the world of handheld gaming so I'd be very surprised to see Capcomn exhibit a reluctance to develop for the DS and the next GBA.

[borgster101]

Well Capcom provided great support for the GCN, whether this will be the same for the Rev, we'll just have to wait and see what the Rev is and where it truly stands aganist its competitors.

[gaselite]

I seriously cannot wait. Im thinking Nintendo showed Capcom the Revolution and they went 'LOL' (Kinda like what happened with Factor5 and Silicon Knights). >_>

More than likely they've decided to make a different RE game to match the Revolution's capabilities or input/outout?

Nintendo and Capcom are on very good terms, I hardly think capcom are going to abandon one of their key franchises on a nintendo platform just like that, considering that nintendo's platform was the medium which allowed them to put said franchise through a renaissance which has turned out to be one of the games of the year.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

That is what I was thinking.

I can see many RE: Gun Survivor games coming to the rev.

:mrgreen:

[borgster101]

Nintendo respond to RE5 news (http://www.cube-europe.com/news.php?nid=8044), well this story is in line with what I was trying to suggest eariler, i.e. that a Revolution version is possible when the Revolution console is fully shown to the public.

Of course this isn't a confirmation of any sort, we'll just have to wait and see.

[Johnny360]

Just watched the video now, and I'm even more excited for this game now...seems like they have gone back to zombies...? and now there even faster and smarter....damn this game is going to be awesome...The effects and graphics that they are going to pull of with this game are going to be huge....RE4 is already awesome enough....imagian what they are going to pull off with the new hardware...

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

seems like they have gone back to zombies...? and now there even faster and smarter....

I don't know why you're assuming they're zombies, you don't see them. Considering all we have to go on is their speed I'd assume they're more RE4 "not zombies" then your common garden variety zombie.

Although my guess is they'll be a mixture of both types, judging by the end of RE4.

[Johnny360]

I don't know why you're assuming they're zombies, you don't see them. Considering all we have to go on is their speed I'd assume they're more RE4 "not zombies" then your common garden variety zombie.


I'm assuming they're Zombies because of they way they're walking before they start running. Very zombish like ;)

[Thalass]

What the hell happened to this thread? I just watched the new extended E3 trailer and all of my doubt has vanished. Too bad its going for a 2009 release......

[Dr Skinnybones]

and a late 2009 at that (apparently).

The most interesting feature is going to be this "eyes adjust to the light" thing. As in if it's bright outside and you walk inside you're blinded until your eyes adjust. Opportunity for some good scares or avenue for cheap shots on the player?

This game will be awesome, almost too awesome.

[Slurry Murray]

Aside from GTA4, this is my most anticipated game at the moment.

But 2009? But we saw the first Resi 5 trailer ages ago... was it E3 2005 or 2006?

How can a game that looks quite complete as it is take so bloody long to release? I want, I WANT!

[Stevorooni]

HOLY SHIT that looks good. I had a grin on my face through the entire trailer :D

[Creedy]

Aside from GTA4, this is my most anticipated game at the moment.

But 2009? But we saw the first Resi 5 trailer ages ago... was it E3 2005 or 2006?

How can a game that looks quite complete as it is take so bloody long to release? I want, I WANT!

Remember when the Lost Planet demo got released?
Remember when the actual game got released?

[Clockw0rk]

So, what do people think is wrong with the population in this one? My bet is on a different type of Las Plagas parasites, though at this point in time it's really anyone's guess.

[Thalass]

What I want to know is who the hell the woman is at the end of the trailer and why she's inside some sort of liquid container or something.

[oogi2000]

What I want to know is who the hell the woman is at the end of the trailer and why she's inside some sort of liquid container or something.

I am betting that was Sherry Birkin. BTW the trailer looked sweet.

[Stevorooni]

So, what do people think is wrong with the population in this one? My bet is on a different type of Las Plagas parasites, though at this point in time it's really anyone's guess.

Well they looked kind of like mindless zombies, except faster like those RE4 baddies.

Maybe they bred zombies with Las Plagas... zombgas.. no wait ZOMG-as

[AyatollaofRocknRolla]

This game looks like Resi4 on speed.

[borgster101]

Latest RE5 trailer is awesome, looks very RE4, but instead of being in a Spanish/European village area, you're in an African village, enemies seem to react like those in RE4 (i.e. Las Plagas) perhaps Wesker has managed to combine the T Virus with the Las Plagas to create some sort of super zombie? At the end of RE4 seems like Wesker got the Las Plagas, unless Ada didnt actually deliver it to him?

Looking awesome, might be a while for it yet, though RE4 took a while to come out as well (getting changed 3 or so times didnt help) and turned out awesome in the end! :D

[Bugalugs213]

Looks unreal! Hope they don't make it too heavy with quick time events though.

[Nic Xtreme]

That extended trailer is freaking awesome.

The action of a tropical island, in high-definition!

Wow. Wow. Wow. I shit my pants.

I want it so much!

[El nombre]

Looks like a sooped up version of RE4, especially the enemy AI and the close quarter attacks -- looks like you can dodge and counter enemies when they try grab hold of you, also a lot more things they can do tather than just choking you in RE4. I'll need to get this.

[Lobster]

Friends, I am the next-gen crab claw AI. I have extra crabular sensors which allow me to extend my cerebral cortex to the next level using the power of cell. I have 10 toasters set up here and they are all hooked up to my brain like stink to a monkey. Hello, I am the crab cortex.

[El nombre]

lolwut

[Conky]

I hope there is an online co-op mode for this and when your player gets killed you become a zombie.

[Thalass]

enemies seem to react like those in RE4 (i.e. Las Plagas) perhaps Wesker has managed to combine the T Virus with the Las Plagas to create some sort of super zombie? At the end of RE4 seems like Wesker got the Las Plagas, unless Ada didnt actually deliver it to him?


If you play separate ways on the PS2, Wii or PC version of the game it's revealed that Ada gave Wesker a fake and sent the real sample to an organisation she was working for known as 'S'.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Oh god I was just about up to that chapter SPOILERS!

[aubergine]

Not to spoil your spoilers there, but I think Thalass is actually slightly in error; "S" was the organisation that Whesker was courting to turn into a new Umbrella, and her own secret organisation (who appear to be good guys) are never named at all.

The crap she spouts in that final cutscene is pretty convoluted and confusing though, but I'm pretty sure I heard correctly, having only played it mere days ago. I don't think it can really classify as a spoiler but it makes **** all sense. It's no amazing reveal or anything, it's just what is required of a Resident Evil game.

[grimace06]

It seems that Japanese developers like to take their time especially when it comes to games like Final Fantasy, Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid. So I'm in no way surprised about the 2009 release date.

[borgster101]

If you play separate ways on the PS2, Wii or PC version of the game it's revealed that Ada gave Wesker a fake and sent the real sample to an organisation she was working for known as 'S'.
Yeah I played Separate Ways but most of what Ada says is vague, but yeah it does suggest that Ada was working for someone else other than Wesker, which implies that Wesker probably doesnt get the Las Plagas (hence my question mark).

[Jickle]

Is it just me, or does this game look incredibly hard?

It also looks awesome, though.

[/backslash]

Is it just me, or does this game look incredibly hard?
It's not just you :P I was put off by the trailer too as it seems to be 10x times harder than RE4 (and I barely got anywhere in RE4). Running 'Super Zombies' with throwing knives and grappling hooks = shit scared panic mode

An amazing looking game though :D

[Jay]

I hope there is an online co-op mode for this and when your player gets killed you become a zombie.

I can't pep you atm but that sounds like one of the greatest ideas for multiplayer ever. Reminds me - somewhat bizarrely - of turning into a bomb in battle mode of Mario Kart and wreaking a bit of posthumous havoc.

@ Jickle

I thought that too when I was watching it. It seems almost overwhelming!

I will say now - at the risk of much nep - that whilst I enjoyed the trailer I was slightly underwhelmed. I'm not really sure why (which is why I haven;t expressed these feeling earlier). Perhaps because I loved RE4 so much that the shift in location feels strange. I'm as sure as a man can be about such things that it will be a cracking game.

[the_concierge.]

I hope there is an online co-op mode for this and when your player gets killed you become a zombie.

This does sound like a great idea. In fact, Hideo Kojima once expressed how he would like to make a zombie massively multiplayer online game based around the same idea.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Has anyone actually linked the extended trailer yet?

I'm going to say no.

ILuP43jcaXw

This does sound like a great idea. In fact, Hideo Kojima once expressed how he would like to make a zombie massively multiplayer online game based around the same idea.

Wasn't Resident Evil Online pretty much this?

[sidochrome]

Wasn't Resident Evil Online pretty much this?

I would hardly call it an MMO, but...

I hope there is an online co-op mode for this and when your player gets killed you become a zombie.

... it did feature this.

Online would be the bomb, but I'm not holding my breath. I guess if it's not out for some time, then there is the potential for it to happen.

[Nic Xtreme]

The vibe I'm getting from the trailer also happens to be the some one you feel at the start of RE4 when the villagers are going crazy at you till Ada rings the bell...and they all retreat.

It also had this overwhelming sense of "holy ******" to it, IIRC...

[aubergine]

The game looks pretty awesome from that trailer. I wonder what controversy will arise about a game where a white guy guns down hordes of black people. "Nazi Simulator"? Of course it isn't racist to gun down 700 Spaniards, because they are whitish.

[Stevorooni]

The game looks pretty awesome from that trailer. I wonder what controversy will arise about a game where a white guy guns down hordes of black people. "Nazi Simulator"? Of course it isn't racist to gun down 700 Spaniards, because they are whitish.

I didn't even think about the potential of people whinging about that.

I can see the 60 minutes report brewing.

[Slurry Murray]

The game looks pretty awesome from that trailer. I wonder what controversy will arise about a game where a white guy guns down hordes of black people. "Nazi Simulator"? Of course it isn't racist to gun down 700 Spaniards, because they are whitish.
Couldn't we just argue that "they started it?" I mean, they're after Chris Redfield's BRAINS and such. It's not a very friendly town with citizens offering tourists cups of tea and crumpets or anything.

[Cerebral]

Poppycock! Zombies have been caucasians for generations of RE games. Time for some diversity, people!

Calling it now, RE6 to be set in the mean streets of Langzhou.

[aubergine]

Looks more like rage virus than T-virus. Thank god for 28 Days Later, why did it take so long to get fast zombies anyway?

[Stevorooni]

why did it take so long to get fast zombies anyway?

well obviously the slow zombies are in charge of coming up with new ideas

[Clockw0rk]

The game looks pretty awesome from that trailer. I wonder what controversy will arise about a game where a white guy guns down hordes of black people. "Nazi Simulator"? Of course it isn't racist to gun down 700 Spaniards, because they are whitish.
It won't get any publicity because it isn't made by Rockstar.
Either that or they'll work in some plotline about Chris really being an albino black guy which makes it all OK.

[Stevorooni]

It Starts (http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/01/african-womens-blog-critical-of-resident-evil-5-trailer/)

This is problematic on so many levels, including the depiction of Black people as inhuman savages, the killing of Black people by a white man in military clothing, and the fact that this video game is marketed to children and young adults. Start them young… fearing, hating, and destroying Black people.

[aubergine]

Do I ever get sick of being right all the time? Sometimes.

Here's Kotaku's take (http://kotaku.com/gaming/zombie-racism/black-looks-on-re-5-racism-284725.php) on it.

[consoul]

Fortunately Japan doesn't care, and takes some pleasure in reinforcing all manner of national and racial stereotypes. You should see the way they portray Westerners on Japanese TV.

This controversy was probably anticipated by Capcom. It's free publicity.

I think there are too many assumptions being made though. It's not Africa at all. Ten bucks says it's Haiti. The original home of the zombie.

[Clockw0rk]

Ten bucks says it's Haiti. The original home of the zombie.
That makes sense - Home of the zombie, isolated island, close enough to the US to make a virus/zombie outbreak threatening.

[aubergine]

I can see the headlines now: "Capcom's Racial Haiti."

[Stevorooni]

I think the real victims in this are the zombies.
They've been depicted as evil, brain eating monsters for too long, when will someone stand up for them?

[HiredMan]

Zombie class action!

[borgster101]

The silly thing about these criticsms is that the people are possesed by a parasite, or infected with a virus or whatever that causes them to be inhuman savages, there's never the suggestion that anyone is naturally like this. RE4 contained the exact same thing, but with Spainards, did the Latin American community make a big deal out of it?

But obviously there's a dark history of white people killing black people in America, and so its a sensitive issue amongst certain people/communtites, but the concerns are always out of context with the actual game/film whatever.

[Stevorooni]

Never let the facts get in the way of an argument.

[banjoeskimo]

As someone on either Joystiq or Kotaku said, I'll bet that woman's just a disgruntled zombie pretending to be a disenfranchised black woman.

Utterly ridiculous. Italians should take up a class action against Nintendo for perpetuating the stereotype of the hallucinating, tail-chasing, mushroom-abusing Italian plumber.

Oh, wait...

[Clockw0rk]

But obviously there's a dark history of white people killing black people in America, and so its a sensitive issue amongst certain people/communtites, but the concerns are always out of context with the actual game/film whatever.
You've gotta remember that the people who complain about videogames have no ****ing clue what they're talking about. You might as well be arguing about religion with a Catholic.

[borgster101]

You've gotta remember that the people who complain about videogames have no ****ing clue what they're talking about. You might as well be arguing about religion with a Catholic.
Yeah of course, it's always the way.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

or infected with a virus or whatever that causes them to be inhuman savages

It's called AIDS you monster!

EDIT: Wow, Capcom could really make some bad decisions with the storyline if they're not careful..

[ElPresidente]

You've gotta remember that the people who complain about videogames have no ****ing clue what they're talking about. You might as well be arguing about religion with a Catholic.

Or stereotypes with ClockwOrk.

It's not Africa at all. Ten bucks says it's Haiti. The original home of the zombie.

Yeah my money is on Haiti as well. In fact that is where I presumed it was set when I first saw the trailer.

[immol8]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd0M5WlKM74

That's the best I could get. Sorry.

[Creedy]

New video showing some RE5 gameplay, it's from the DVD in Famitsu.

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/18134

[Jickle]

Looks awesome. Only thing is, now that the graphics look so good, it looks a bit weird when Chris shoots someone and their clothing isn't stained or torn.

[AyatollaofRocknRolla]

It looks the goods. I wonder if there will be any night-time levels in this game. I remember when it became dark in RE4 how awesome the atmosphere change up was.

[Starscream]

Just skimmed through this thread.

Get rid of the attache case weapons system.
I'd rather something like RV62 or Gears. Two rifles, handgun, grenades. Hopefully MGS4 does this.

Hot weapon swapping.

That's weapon swapping not wife swapping.

[dimorphic]

It looks the goods. I wonder if there will be any night-time levels in this game. I remember when it became dark in RE4 how awesome the atmosphere change up was.

Maybe real-time day/night cycle. Or would that be shit?

[Starscream]

It could work, but I doubt Capcom would implement it.

Night vision, thermal vision..cool.

[Ashmaran]

Thermal vision? But the zombies are all dead!

I was also pretty impressed by how nice the graphics are coming along.

[in3rtia]

So is there a release date on this?

[Starscream]

Thermal vision? But the zombies are all dead!

I was also pretty impressed by how nice the graphics are coming along.
Sonar detection ala MGS3 then.

[Clockw0rk]

RE5 will be set in Africa. (http://blog.capcom.com/archives/1116)
Interview over at Capcom's site where they explain their reasoning behind the setting.
..we really wanted to show the origins of the virus. So for the setting we thought, how about using the place where humankind was born?...we thought we would use Africa, which is now called the birthplace of humanity, as the model.
It doesn't matter how you justify it. It's got black people in it, and that makes it racist.

[Nic Xtreme]

N'Gai Croal had a big whinge about the apparent racism in the game.

*****ing retards with their *****ing prejudices. As Clockw0rk pointed out, black people = OMG racism :(

Wankers.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

I'm surprised no one complained about the massive amounts of racism the first 3 RE games showed against zombies.

[Stormyau]

N'Gai Croal had a big whinge about the apparent racism in the game.

*****ing retards with their *****ing prejudices. As Clockw0rk pointed out, black people = OMG racism :(

Wankers.
Who the **** is that?

[JONO RANDOM H3RO]

You may recognise him :

http://www.tmn.nu/blog/wp-content/ngai.jpg

He does the level up blog for newsweek and is one of the most well known gaming journos..

As for all this racism stuff i think its all a load of crap. They could throw in a few white zombies though..as tourists maybe? Or even white Africans as they do exist.

[Stormyau]

You may recognise him :

http://www.tmn.nu/blog/wp-content/ngai.jpg

He does the level up blog for newsweek and is one of the most well known gaming journos..

As for all this racism stuff i think its all a load of crap. They could throw in a few white zombies though..as tourists maybe? Or even white Africans as they do exist.

That guy must be a tool then.

Was he bitching about the Spanish in RE4, or the white people in the first 3?

[Kotche]

You may recognise him :

http://www.tmn.nu/blog/wp-content/ngai.jpg

He does the level up blog for newsweek and is one of the most well known gaming journos..

As for all this racism stuff i think its all a load of crap. They could throw in a few white zombies though..as tourists maybe? Or even white Africans as they do exist.

Holy Shit, he's black.

[Knuckle Children]

Holy Shit, he's black.

That's racist!

[Cerebral]

Man N'Gai's pretty cool. I should probably read this.

[SpearrO]

N'Gai is has contributed some of the most interesting, intelligent and well thought out writing in videogame journalism. His comments here arent simple knee jerk reactions. You guys should read his article, and his reaction to its impact. I think he makes his point quite well.

Newsweek’s N’Gai Croal On The ‘Resident Evil 5′ Trailer: ‘This Imagery Has A History’ (http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/04/10/newsweeks-ngai-croal-on-the-resident-evil-5-trailer-this-imagery-has-a-history)

Ultimately, whether you agree with him or not, I am glad there are people willing to engage in these types of discussions and ask hard questions of videogame production.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

Dude needs to get off his ****ing black high horse. I bet he wouldn't be complaining if the game was set in China and you have to shoot asian zombies.

[Jay]

Maybe not but hopefully his asiatic equivalent would be. I don't necessarily agree with his reading of the text but I am also reading the text without his depth of knowledge regarding this sort of thing.

[Saxby]

What's the bet that capcom, had all along written a script that had redfield infected with a BLACK virus, courtesy of umbrella. He then takes on the whole white corporate america. Its ON!

PErsonally, I'm looking forward to this game. RE4 ALWAYS had diverse environments that took different directions.

[the_concierge.]

I'm not sure some of the kneejerk reactions of "ERRRRR WTF NGAI IS A TOOL ITZ NOT RACISZT" are really necessary, especially considering N'gai's opinion on the imagery we've seen in the trailers was the exact opposite. The fact of the matter is the trailers we've seen do not characterize the 'villagers' as human for one second - you don't feel any empathy for them at all and from the first frame you are sure that Chris is going to have to kill them.

I agree with N'gai in that this doesn't necessarily mean that Capcom is being intentionally racist - in fact I personally think there is no chance of that. But he is perfectly justified in saying this kind of imagery carries with it the weight of history, and that could attract a broad spectrum of repercussions - consumer backlash, corporate backlash (from major games retailers), the list goes on. That doesn't mean these sort of problems WILL crop up, but for now it doesn't seem like Capcom is trying to mitigate any future adversity.

[Jickle]

I always thought RE4 would have been even better if the villiagers were humanized a bit more. The stills playing during the credits are really creepy, but for the most part they're just insane savages in the game. There's very little 'putting them out of their misery' element. With the extra detail available on the next-gen consoles, there are more signs of the lives these people used to lead (even simple things like the clothes on clotheslines), which should hopefully add a bit of a new dimension to Resident Evil.

[Saxby]

Whenever you see african footage of villagers, there are ALWAYS cute kids running after the white guy. Ngai made the point that there aren't any cute kids in the trailer, romg. It's definitely a picture of horror painted, but even with the kids included, it would ruin the games atmosphere.

[Starscream]

If we're going to use the briefcase method for weapons with no hot weapon swapping when they release this game, I will ask, "Have you not learned Capcom?"

[SpearrO]

I'm not sure some of the kneejerk reactions of "ERRRRR WTF NGAI IS A TOOL ITZ NOT RACISZT" are really necessary, especially considering N'gai's opinion on the imagery we've seen in the trailers was the exact opposite. The fact of the matter is the trailers we've seen do not characterize the 'villagers' as human for one second - you don't feel any empathy for them at all and from the first frame you are sure that Chris is going to have to kill them.

I agree with N'gai in that this doesn't necessarily mean that Capcom is being intentionally racist - in fact I personally think there is no chance of that. But he is perfectly justified in saying this kind of imagery carries with it the weight of history, and that could attract a broad spectrum of repercussions - consumer backlash, corporate backlash (from major games retailers), the list goes on. That doesn't mean these sort of problems WILL crop up, but for now it doesn't seem like Capcom is trying to mitigate any future adversity.

This is absolutely right. The crux of N'gai's comments weren't to say that capcom were being overtly racist, but that the steryotypes presented were insensitive at best, and, conciously or not, played on historical, negative representations in order to induce horror. I mean really, to a no-gamer, its not even clear that they're zombies.

Now, we're familiar with resident evil, and videogames in general, and we know the naivete with which they approach 'real-world' issues, so it's easy for us to look at this and say, "They're just zombies! Chill!". But, the fact of the matter is, that outside of videogames, these images convey powerful meanings.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

I think his argument is just as valid as that of a mother claiming GTA games should be banned because they promote violence and crime in society.

In other words I don't think it's very valid.

[Cerebral]

New info.

If it wasn’t for the new features the game would read like a massive re-skinning job, but thanks to the inclusion of God Hand’s dodging abilities and a fully integrated online co-op story there’s enough on the new features front to avoid those damning accusations of cashing in on the same idea.
Like Gears, the entirety of Resident Evil 5 features jump in/jump out gameplay with the AI taking over the reigns of our mysterious female mercenary when you’re playing alone.
New to Resident Evil 5’s combat system is the ability to lock to a wall and fire around the corner.
With all this excitement it’s easy to forget the rest of the package. Resident Evil 5 doesn’t just feature a story; there’s the returning Mercenaries minigame and a whole host of other extras that are still safely under wraps. We’ll admit to being just a wee bit concerned when it was revealed Shinji Mikami would not be heading up the production of Resident Evil 5, but in spite of this loss on the development team the game is looking like the ultimate game of the series.

Link (http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/resident-evil-5/preview/resident-evil-5/a-20080521155013307049/g-2005138888000000020757)

Imagine the co-op partner is Ada, that would be incredible. Doubt it, though.

[Sweating Bullets]

What is the release date for this Cer?

[Nic Xtreme]

Holy shit this game is going to be so freaking awesome!

LOL the link is dead, too <_<

[Watchers]

If we're going to use the briefcase method for weapons with no hot weapon swapping when they release this game, I will ask, "Have you not learned Capcom?"

I want unlimited pockets. I do not care for inventory management at all and I like to be able to adapt my play style on the fly. In every game.

[immol8]

Imagine the co-op partner is Ada, that would be incredible. Doubt it, though.

Oh wow.

[TrinityJayOne]

Mercenaries
**** that game was awesome. I could only complete it on one character, the young guy that partners with Jill. Carlos I think? Whichever one it was that started with the machine gun. One of my best mates at high school could do it with the guy who starts with like half a 9mm clip and a knife. D: D: D:

Is there any word on how the story will go in this in relation to the other titles? I've only ever played through RE2 & Nemesis on the PSX.

Mmmmmmm, co-op campaign!

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[Cerebral]

Oh wow.

http://www.weplug.com/images_1/24f29b7bb036838db15da62d5463e7b020080522190045.jpg

Also more screenshots lying around somewhere, none particularly telling.

[Adios]

Bring back HUNK I say.

[immol8]

Also more screenshots lying around somewhere, none particularly telling.

No rediculously inappropriate combat attire eg red dress? Can't be Ada.

Also Trin never playing RE:4 = disturbing shock of the day.

[Princess Sakura]

No rediculously inappropriate combat attire eg red dress? Can't be Ada.

Also Trin never playing RE:4 = disturbing shock of the day.

Wha....????

[Antwandemarco]

Co-op mercs would/will be awesome!

[Cerebral]

Also Trin never playing RE:4 = disturbing shock of the day.
This is untrue - I distinctly remember him pulling the "heh heh...thank ye" line this one time.

Perhaps someone else was playing it in his room while he played WoW. In fact, this is probably the most likely scenario.

[immol8]

Oh yeah. Of course, who can resist the merchant.

Wikipedia says the female will be an existing character. If that's true, and that's a ponytail I see then it might be Claire.

[AranchineD]

Wikipedia says the female will be an existing character. If that's true, and that's a ponytail I see then it might be Claire.

Jill might have just grown her hair. Either of those returning would be awesome, though.

[Conky]

New Trailer is out....

I'd post a youtube link but you should find a HD version instead.

Looks very nice.

[Gio]

And it has footage of white zombies being killed too zomg now it's "okay".

[Cerebral]

Dr. Salvador!

[borgster101]

Las Plagas can come out in the light now?! O_O

And more chainsaw madness! :D Looks awesome, I'm going to reserve hype though, because I have a feeling the game will later get criticised for being too much like RE4 .. it probably wont wow us like RE4 did, but it's still going to be amazing :)

[Gio]

It does look a lot like RE4, but that's fine with me!

[Adios]

Yes it does look like Resident Evil 4 but so, so, so much more intense. By the looks of it this game is going to be very difficult judging by the sheer amount of enemies on screen. If Capcom structure most of the gameplay around this concept of being constantly overwhelmed and outnumbered it could be a lot more terrifying than RE4 because, let's face it, RE4 wasn't very scary.

Anyway, more RE4 gameplay in my books is always good. Definitely around the top of my most wanted list.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

And it has footage of white zombies being killed too zomg now it's "okay".

Here's hoping the white zombies act smarter and think up complex methods of attacking you, because you know... bigger brains. THIS IS A JOKE AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH.

[Spudzilla]

I'm once again getting pumped for this. I'll gave to go over to immol8's place for some co-op action.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I may have to buy a 360 for this.

[Slippery]

I could pull a fanboy and point out there cheif-developing on the PS3 but that'd just be silly :P

Nah seriously though, when I was looking at buying a 360 (b4 I got my PS3 for free) I was pretty much basing 33% of that want on the inevitable release of Resi 5

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Yeah but they'll no doubt improve it once they port it to the 360, what with it being better.

[Slippery]

Probably - I certainly wish I was playing GTA IV on 360.

Just cause my multiplayer never works.

[mayo]

Looks awesome. Very like RE4, but that's a good thing.

[Saxby]

So, most anticipated game ever anyone? I never anticipate games anymore. This is going to blow my load.

[craptest]

So, most anticipated game ever anyone? I never anticipate games anymore.... I was rather keen for RE4 because it was a totally new direction for the Resident Evil series. This is just 'another sequal' in many ways. So excitement factor at 50%.

And the graphics have taken a hit since the teaser trailer. Looks good, but not 'unbelievably good'. Early days. Then again maybe its further proof that japanese developers arent at the 'cutting edge' of graphics these days (in terms of grunt, not necessarily design eg. Okami & SOTC > Gears of War).

[Cerebral]

I'd say MGS4 pushes its fair share of grunt.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

I'd say MGS4 pushes its fair share of grunt.

Damn straight. The game scored a 10 times 10 to the power of 10 on SDF.

[Lex]

I'd say MGS4 pushes its fair share of grunt.

and still it looks nothing like originally planned. those textures, ugh.

[Cerebral]

I'd like to see SDF review Bioshock for PS3.

[Saxby]

I was rather keen for RE4 because it was a totally new direction for the Resident Evil series. This is just 'another sequal' in many ways. So excitement factor at 50%.

And the graphics have taken a hit since the teaser trailer. Looks good, but not 'unbelievably good'. Early days. Then again maybe its further proof that japanese developers arent at the 'cutting edge' of graphics these days (in terms of grunt, not necessarily design eg. Okami & SOTC > Gears of War).

It's mostly that I enjoyed playing RE4 more than any other game I own (and I've got lots). This is my kind of game. I also have faith that the game will hold endless surprises and changes to keep me coming back.

[aubergine]

I think the graphics look just as good as they did, it's just that they are no longer stand outs in the current market. It would be hard to expect a leap like with RE4, what they managed with the GCN's hardware was inconceivable.

At least we know that the game is going to be another variation on the Las Plagas, a continuation of that. In fact it looks a lot like RE4 with a major graphical leap. Hopefully there will be new gameplay as well although I'd happily run through a next-gen RE4-like trusting that the set-pieces, story, gameplay etc match up. I just hope that the game is as wonderfully long as RE4 was.

[Sweating Bullets]

I would have liked to see them revisit a city environment.

[Saxby]

I'm sure they will. RE4 took me places I never expected (First a village and then all of a sudden a castle, then a military fortress/laboratory, etc), that's what I loved about it!

[craptest]

I'm sure they will. RE4 took me places I never expected (First a village and then all of a sudden a castle, then a military fortress/laboratory, etc), that's what I loved about it!
There will be a snow level, a Lava level, a level where everything is gigantic...

[Aerodynamic]

There will be a snow level, a Lava level, a level where everything is gigantic...

But if you jump in the painting on the other side of the wall everything is tiny.

[Cerebral]

But first, you must get the painting to appear by ringing a bell then shooting a wine bottle, opening a locked door.

[Dr Skinnybones]

oh jesus...

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

E3 trailer. (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36228.html?e3i=1)

Looks exactly like RE4. Right down to the HUD, and enemy animations. Ugh.

[aceaussie]

I would have liked to see them revisit a city environment.
That would be awesome, However RE4 had some awesome environments.

Lets hope RE5 brings Horror Back.

[Koroshiya_Keefu]

Still, nothing wrong with more of the same, but it does look a little bit too much like RE4 with a slightly better graphics engine.

[Cerebral]

E3 trailer. (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36228.html?e3i=1)

Looks exactly like RE4. Right down to the HUD, and enemy animations. Ugh.
Hey, get your own opinions!

[Gio]

Maybe I was seeing things, but I thought the animations were improved. *shrug*

[JONO RANDOM H3RO]

Wow.

Just watched the latest trailer from E3 and as a big fan of RE4 all i can say is March 13th 2009 can't come soon enough!

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Hey, get your own opinions!

Blow me, hippy!

[Sweating Bullets]

Graphics look pretty insane.

The guns sound a bit weak tho

[Tonez]

Graphics look pretty insane.

The guns sound a bit weak tho

True but March 2009 is a long way away.

[Lex]

E3 trailer. (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36228.html?e3i=1)

Looks exactly like RE4. Right down to the HUD, and enemy animations. Ugh.

yeah, apart from the awesome character models, textures, lighting, 10x scale, co-op etc.

exactly the same.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

yeah, apart from the awesome character models, textures, lighting, 10x scale, co-op etc.

exactly the same.

Ok creedy.

[Lex]

the *****?

[Stormyau]

I'm going to have to agree with Lex, how the **** is that the same as RE4?

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I DON'T KNOW I WAS QUOTING CER JUST LEAVE ME ALONE GUYS COME ON!

[Cerebral]

I hope you've learned your lesson here.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Asians are a very sneaky people!

[Adios]

Real time weapon changing! Yes!

I can't believe I'm saying that for a game in this generation :p

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Alt trailer. (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36581.html?e3i=1)

Look at those boob physics! EVEN BETTER THAN RE4 LOL!

That mad max section actually looks pretty cool.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

I think this game demonstrates an unfair portrayal of white people in Africa, not once did a black person get on their knees and shine the main characters shoes for a penny, doesn't capcom know the history involved with this sort of imagery?

[Princess Sakura]

Squeeee! I wants ;_;
Glad the kept the tradition of hammy voice actors <3

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Yeah, that first guy seems to go from African to 1940's New York gangster accent wise.

[Cerebral]

Huge potentially spoileriffic but goddamn awesome trailer.

http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/21938

Holy shit @ the end!

[Stevorooni]

Game looks scary, I CAN'T WAIT

[Slippery]

http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/22085

Makes me appreciate Resi 5 all the more.

[sheeps]

So.. Just announced recently guys.

Split screen offline co-op (awesome)
AND..

Shooter controls, so you can strafe.

Before I didn't care, but after playing Dead Space, this is great. Only thing is, you can't shoot and move. This annoys me a little still, I would like to be able to move very slowly and shoot.

[Cian]

It's a shiny, polished Resi 4 and I'm glad. It's going to be so damn good.

[grimace06]

Strafing?

Resident Evil ain't Resident Evil no more.

[aubergine]

It wasn't Resident Evil in 4 either, because it was good. Remake was a fun oddity but personally I can't believe people can play games like that.

[Sweating Bullets]

What didn't you like about Remake??

[Stevorooni]

Probably the stiff controls and fixed camera angles.

[Cerebral]

Who was it that said in order to expand your audience, you have to betray your current audience? I don't care if it isn't 'Resident Evil' so long as it isn't 'bad'.

[Sweating Bullets]

Probably the stiff controls and fixed camera angles.

But that's how the original Resident Evil was.

I quite enjoyed Remake - very tense atmosphere.

[aubergine]

What didn't you like about Remake??

I thought remake was terrific, even with it's horrible throwback controls. But I couldn't imagine playing another game like that. because the mythos interests me I tried playing RE0 and RE2 but quickly gave both away.

Story, atmosphere and some generalities of gameplay are what interest me in games, I rarely see a reason though to perpetuate awful control schemes which were brought about by old, limited hardware or just some crazy Japanese misanthrope developer.

I miss the puzzles from the games though, but I think something the level of Return to Zork etc is what I'd rather have in a puzzle game. The "push the blocks to make a picture" puzzle has been done to death in games and the rest just seems to be keyfinding. Splitting a key into two pieces does not make it a puzzle!

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

LOL at the 1up interview

Will the game also take place at night in levels you haven't shown yet? And I have to phrase this very delicately, but it seems like it might be a very difficult game to play at night because of the fact that you're dealing with dark-skinned people -- it might be difficult to see them in the dark.

Hahaha, lets hope the zombies (whatever they are) smile a lot so you can still see them!

[Queenie]

you see, that's the problem with zombies... they might be missing eyes, or teeth... or entire sections of their head.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

Well then I'm glad most of Brisbane is white, so if there is ever a zombie breakout at night time I will still be able to see them coming at me.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

Is WhyMe drunk again?

[Nic Xtreme]

Oh-ho! That's not racist! I earned P$1 for that post! This is an outrage! It's the truth! Fine then!

you see, that's the problem with zombies... they might be missing eyes, or teeth... or entire sections of their head.

Aren't all individuals of an African American/Islander/Indigenous descent like that?

Is WhyMe drunk again?

No?

[Sweating Bullets]

Aren't all individuals of an African American/Islander/Indigenous descent like that?


I suspect that this will cause your post to be deleted.

[Nic Xtreme]

I suspect that this will cause your post to be deleted.

As an individual in modern society, I am asking this question based on my assumption that many of those backgrounds are of lower socio-economic statuses, and as such don't have access to the kind of health care needed to maintain exceptional appearances.

[Sweating Bullets]

As an individual in modern society, I am asking this question based on my assumption that many of those backgrounds are of lower socio-economic statuses, and as such don't have access to the kind of health care needed to maintain exceptional appearances.

haha good call.

[Aerodynamic]

As an individual in modern society, I am asking this question based on my assumption that many of those backgrounds are of lower socio-economic statuses, and as such don't have access to the kind of health care needed to maintain exceptional appearances.

Yeah, making an assumption based on a sample of the population and applying it to every person in the race. That's called racism mate.

[Cerebral]

As an individual in modern society, I am asking this question based on my assumption that many of those backgrounds are of lower socio-economic statuses, and as such don't have access to the kind of health care needed to maintain exceptional appearances.
You are not WhyMe.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

Yeah, making an assumption based on a sample of the population and applying it to every person in the race. That's called racism mate.

Actually it's called stereotyping.... you middle class, appropriately educated cracker.

[Queenie]

no, it's actually called racial profiling, an offshoot of stereotyping, which is an assumption about a group (ambiguous term that applies to many things, race etc).

you're half correct.

[sheeps]

You're all Jewish.

[Gio]

They're actually all black, if you want to get technical.

[Hyperblau]

So uh, who wants to play the demo :D

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13879899&postcount=730

Edit: Gave it a good go just before, its pretty good but is basically just RE4 with brilliant graphics. Same controls as RE4 which is pretty disappointing. Ill no doubt get the full game in March, but was kinda hoping for more rather than the same game in a different location.

[Crypt]

Uh, I won't get banned for playing the demo like this will I? Might not take it online just in case.

[oreo_777]

All summed up in one sentence. Resident evil.................5. Probably one of the best games of 2009, along with skate 2, FFXIII and (maybe) God of War III.

[Adios]

but is basically just RE4 with brilliant graphics. Same controls as RE4 which is pretty disappointing. Ill no doubt get the full game in March, but was kinda hoping for more rather than the same game in a different location.

But from the very first trailer it's looked exactly like that. They haven't really been concealing that it's very similar to RE4 and frankly I don't mind one bit.

[Nic Xtreme]

So uh, who wants to play the demo :D

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13879899&postcount=730

Edit: Gave it a good go just before, its pretty good but is basically just RE4 with brilliant graphics. Same controls as RE4 which is pretty disappointing. Ill no doubt get the full game in March, but was kinda hoping for more rather than the same game in a different location.

RE5 has different controls? Unless the demo isn't current?

[Crypt]

Just played the demo for a bit and it's bloody awesome. Not much has really changed since RE4 but I think that's a good thing. One thing I really liked is that the inventory system is now in real time so that's a big plus. I tried the online coop and it's a blast, I'm glad that's been implemented properly. The graphics are absolutely incredible, possibly the best I've seen this gen.

As for the thing I disliked... well it's far too easy. Enemies will stand in front of you for a couple of seconds before attacking and the chainsaw guy isn't as fearsome as the one in RE4. Hopefully this is fixed with a hard mode in the final version. Fingers crossed the game doesn't get refused classification too.

[Hyperblau]

But from the very first trailer it's looked exactly like that. They haven't really been concealing that it's very similar to RE4 and frankly I don't mind one bit.

I had still hoped for a bit more.

[sheeps]

Edit: Gave it a good go just before, its pretty good but is basically just RE4 with brilliant graphics. Same controls as RE4 which is pretty disappointing. Ill no doubt get the full game in March, but was kinda hoping for more rather than the same game in a different location.

They mentioned in an interview that we'd have Dead Space-like controls available too.. is there an option somewhere you can check?

[Hyperblau]

They mentioned in an interview that we'd have Dead Space-like controls available too.. is there an option somewhere you can check?

I tried, but all the control schemes are practically the same. No strafing/moving while aiming.

[sheeps]

Oh yeah, they said you couldn't aim and move but you could move and strafe.

[fishonthecarpet]

co-op is a blast!

[Me]

Loving the demo so far, I think I'll be sticking with the RE4 style controls as the twin stick approach feels a little clunky. Especially being someone who has a preference for Southpaw stick layouts (I've modded a controller into being a "southpad" so any game that doesn't offer it I can still play).

[Lex]

very... underwhelmed. graphically, it's ok I guess, but there's some REALLY nasty textures in there. and gameplay wise, it's really no different to RE4, I was hoping for a more kinetic, fast paced action game, but the enemies still run up to you, then start slowly walking at you. it's just not that exciting.

still, I'll buy it for the co-op alone.

[Stevorooni]

I wasn't in love with it, the controls were awful making it almost impossible to run and turn corners at the same time. I'm gonna try a different control scheme to see if that's any better.

I'll probably still get it eventually but I never thought RE4 was the bees knees either.

[Watchers]

but the enemies still run up to you, then start slowly walking at you. it's just not that exciting.



I never noticed that in RE4 until you mentioned it, but now I find it amusing.

[UC1]

As for the thing I disliked... well it's far too easy. Enemies will stand in front of you for a couple of seconds before attacking and the chainsaw guy isn't as fearsome as the one in RE4. Hopefully this is fixed with a hard mode in the final version. Fingers crossed the game doesn't get refused classification too.

Had a go last night, and I actually found it pretty hard. It's mainly the aiming, since there's no reticule, it takes a bit of getting used to. I was going for head-shots pretty much all the time, and it might just be easier to aim for the body like I did in the beginning with RE4. I got killed by the chainsaw guys about 3 times on each level. Also because the items are managed in real time, I would try to run away and heal, then end up getting smacked from behind a fair bit. Nothing a bit of practice won't fix, but yeah it was a little difficult.

[StorminNorman]

JILL DIES. (http://kotaku.com/5108033/resident-evil-suffers-a-death-in-the-family)

[AranchineD]

What? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

If that 'particular person' is actually dead, I'm not playing any Resident Evil games anymore. But I call fake death or big plot twist or something.

[grimace06]

What? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

If that 'particular person' is actually dead, I'm not playing any Resident Evil games anymore. But I call fake death or big plot twist or something.

I didn't click the spoiler - but I'm guessing it's either Leon or Jill.

Also, played the demo of this last night - hasnt really advanced much beyond RE4 but I'm sure co-op will be a blast.

[UC1]

I didn't click the spoiler - but I'm guessing it's either Leon or Jill.

Also, played the demo of this last night - hasnt really advanced much beyond RE4 but I'm sure co-op will be a blast.

You say that now, but when you're fighting a 50' statue of Michael Jackson that shoots zombie children at you, then you'll surely change your mind.

[grimace06]

You say that now, but when you're fighting a 50' statue of Michael Jackson that shoots zombie children at you, then you'll surely change your mind.

Oh I'm sure I will :p

[Natrak]

I'm yet to play the demo (downloading rars atm, hope it works), but is the fact that it plays like RE4 that much of a bad thing? Sure, being next gen you might be inclined to be hoping for a bit more of a leap, but RE4 was fantastic and I'll be very pleased if RE5 refines the formula. Plus this has pretty much looked like RE4 on a 360/PS3 since day one.

[sheeps]

"Plays a lot like the last game only prettier" should be the motto for this generation.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Needs wii pointer action.

**** this twinstick shit who does that?!

[grimace06]

I'm yet to play the demo (downloading rars atm, hope it works), but is the fact that it plays like RE4 that much of a bad thing? Sure, being next gen you might be inclined to be hoping for a bit more of a leap, but RE4 was fantastic and I'll be very pleased if RE5 refines the formula. Plus this has pretty much looked like RE4 on a 360/PS3 since day one.

I agree that refining RE4 is a good thing but in my opinion the game would be so much more tense and challenging if enemies actually ran at you ala 28 Days Later. That said I do like the new on the fly inventory.

[aubergine]

I loved the RE4 gamecube controls. Mastering it made me feel like a massive legend of badassedness, I mean it was that hard to aim and control that the fact that on my later playthroughs the game was easy as pie, I'd notice what my hands were doing and really couldn't stop enjoying it. I particularly liked quick turning during huge gun battles. Which is to say, the whole game.

Probably won't be as satisfying with the 360 controller as it's action is nowhere near as good as the GCN controller, and I'm hoping they don't use the dreaded analogue-stick-click for any function whatsoever. Who the hell makes sticks pressure senstive in A GRIPPING ACTION GAME!?

Half the reason I suck at Halo is because I get killed by forced squatting or zooming or whatever it is mapped to the stick-clicks that kills me in every tense firefight.

[Natrak]

I just got done playing some split-screen co-op and wound up getting chainsawed mid reload (brainfart) - Chris's head didn't come off! :(

Hopefully that's because it's the japanese demo or something. :/

Also, the window for not getting chainsawed is pretty massive compared to how I remember it in RE4.

[Starscream]

I played some RE4ii again.

I will miss this control scheme when RE5 is released. :( I will kill Capcom if they still use the briefcase for weapon changes.

[Natrak]

Weapon changes are done real time using a little pop-up inventory, or, I think depending on where you've placed the weapon in the menu you can use the d-pad to quick switch between weapons (ie. if you've got a pistol in the middle-right slot in the inventory menu you press right on the d-pad to quickly switch to the pistol). Going from the demo weapons/items no longer take up a certain amount of space, everything takes up just one inventory slot. You can also swap items in your inventory with your partner.

[Tukenstein]

Weapon changes are done real time using a little pop-up inventory, or, I think depending on where you've placed the weapon in the menu you can use the d-pad to quick switch between weapons (ie. if you've got a pistol in the middle-right slot in the inventory menu you press right on the d-pad to quickly switch to the pistol). Going from the demo weapons/items no longer take up a certain amount of space, everything takes up just one inventory slot. You can also swap items in your inventory with your partner.
I was a little upset you couldn't actually move the items around in your inventory meaning the weapons/items assigned to the d-pad were often crap that I'd picked up, but didn't need to use. On that same note I only played the demo once and I spent most of it shooting zombie slime, so I could be wrong about the inventory. >_>

[Starscream]

Apparently there is Collector's Edition of RE5.

The contents of the US version are:

- Exclusive Kijuju Steel Book case including the Resident Evil 5 game and Bonus disc.
- Bonus disc will include The Making of Resident Evil 5, The Art of Resident Evil 5, and a trailer for Resident Evil Degeneration
- Chris Redfield Figurine
- Tricell Messenger Bag
- BSAA Patch & Kijuju-inspired Pendant


Don't know what the PAL (Australian) version of RE5 CE will contain.

[Watchers]

Don't know what the PAL (Australian) version of RE5 CE will contain.

A hefty pricetag with nothing extra except the steelbook?

[Starscream]

A hefty pricetag with nothing extra except the steelbook?

Sounds about right, but I wouldn't mind the bonus disc to watch the extras.

Pre-ordered RE5 CE for 360, only because (IMO) of the 360 LIVE network. And most of my mates own a 360.

[UC1]

I think the demos for this should be going up in the next couple of days.

[Starscream]

26th Jan on Xbox 360 demo. That's according to the US site.

[aubergine]

The CE for 4 was pretty lame unfortunately. Great box art though.

[McChimp]

I want!!


......I think it was March 13 locally.

[dazza826]

The CE for 4 was pretty lame unfortunately. Great box art though.


GC or PS2???

The cube was some lame bonus disk but ill admit the box was nice!!! what was in the ps2 version?

[aubergine]

Doubt there was a PS2 CE. It was a port by then.

[consoul]

PS2 version was a steelbook and mini guide. Lame.

[borgster101]

The CE for 4 was pretty lame unfortunately. Great box art though.
That's only going by today's standards of every new release gets a special edition.

Back then .. "special edition" was actually special (i.e. rare) :p

[Starscream]

Need the 360 vs PS3 shootout/comparison.

[aubergine]

That's only going by today's standards of every new release gets a special edition.

Back then .. "special edition" was actually special (i.e. rare) :p

Not in the case of RE4 on the cube. The "CE" was the ONLY version available for the longest time. All it had was a bonus disc with RE trailers and a short making of vid.

[aceaussie]

Apparently there is Collector's Edition of RE5.

The contents of the US version are:

- Exclusive Kijuju Steel Book case including the Resident Evil 5 game and Bonus disc.
- Bonus disc will include The Making of Resident Evil 5, The Art of Resident Evil 5, and a trailer for Resident Evil Degeneration
- Chris Redfield Figurine
- Tricell Messenger Bag
- BSAA Patch & Kijuju-inspired Pendant


Don't know what the PAL (Australian) version of RE5 CE will contain.
Much ;like the Street Fight IV special edition :P

I doubt we'd get the same one though.

[Queenie]

Not in the case of RE4 on the cube. The "CE" was the ONLY version available for the longest time. All it had was a bonus disc with RE trailers and a short making of vid.

I remember that I pre-ordered the normal version, and it hadn't come out by release date (wasn't it that they weren't releasing normal version till all CE had sold out or something?) anyway, wrote angry email, got free CE.

yay.

[Nic Xtreme]

Need the 360 vs PS3 shootout/comparison.

When the demos were compared, the 360 version was ahead by a mile. It looked significantly better!