Herald Sun Supercoach 2010

[Spazzallo]

Well it is now February 1st so time to start up your Supercoach!

When registering type in this number at the end of the application where it asks you what kind of league you would like to be in.

832036

Hyper only league for now, in about 3 weeks we'll see about inviting friends or family to fill it up a bit more.

See you on the field!

[texta]

Done. Next issue.

[Spazzallo]

Oooh they have a trophy cabinet this year with trophies from last year as well for things like, leage champion, top weekly scorer etc. Too bad it doesn't go any further back then last season!

[Readman]

Gonna go with an all-Carlton team and see how I do.

[texta]

Gonna go with an all-Carlton team and see how I do.I went with an all Richmond team last year and then spent most of the season trading them out. I still came fourth which probably says a lot about the standard of the Hyper competition.

[RunningMild]

I've signed up as 'The Blue Drunkards'. See you at the GF Spazz! :p

EDIT: Is it just me or has the cost of living gone up?

[Spazzallo]

You won't be a happy camper on Grand Final day believe me! :P

Prices seem the same to me, just the kids picked in the draft seem to have moved to 100k from 92k.

[RunningMild]

You won't be a happy camper on Grand Final day believe me! :P

Prices seem the same to me, just the kids picked in the draft seem to have moved to 100k from 92k.

Looks to me like a lot of guys flew up in price after averaging 60-70 last year, which has led to some guys looking overpriced. Maybe they're also trying to guess the player's potential (Stephen Hill at 350 000+?) and let the price go down if they don't reach said potential.

[Super Mario]

Who's up for Dreamteam too?

[IRS]

Tell me if there's a DT comp.


I might join SC, but I don't really want this thing to absorb too much of my life <_<

[Super Mario]

I've made a Dreamteam league, the code is:

654666

[Spazzallo]

Tell me if there's a DT comp.


I might join SC, but I don't really want this thing to absorb too much of my life <_<

Too late. The thought is in your brain. You're doomed :D.

So hard to not pick Brisbane players :( we've got so many players who could possibly have a break out year this season (two of which will be fighting to take over Black's position when he retires) that it's impossible :(.

[NiB]

Just entered both....time to be consumed for yet another season but my month long reserve training at the start of march will hinder my early season progress.

And the Supercoach gods have put a higher price on Gablett than GC17 :D

[RunningMild]

Too late. The thought is in your brain. You're doomed :D.

So hard to not pick Brisbane players :( we've got so many players who could possibly have a break out year this season (two of which will be fighting to take over Black's position when he retires) that it's impossible :(.

Yeah, I ended up with more West Coast players than I was expecting, but I think I'll cut a few of them once pre-season form/round 1 selections come through...

I think it comes down to having a more intimate knowledge of your favourite team, and as such having a better idea of which players are training well, which ones will have a breakout year, and so on.

I've made a Dreamteam league, the code is:

654666

Proof that DT is evil. ;)

[D.C.]

So, how long do we have to join up? I'm tempted, but might get bored/distracted after a few weeks... :(

[Campdog]

I signed up and got my selections up and going yesterday, hope you guys dont mind.

Im pretty sure i have a good spread of high profile players to rookies. I found it hard to try and get a few 350kish players to fill in the gaps more than anything else.

Will have to make a few changes between now and the start of the season once the pre-season starts. Been a few years since ive done this though so it should be interesting :P

[Pan]

I'm DudeWhere'sMyFooty?

[IRS]

Made an OK base team. It'll all change over the next few weeks though.

Simple start up team strategy. All my time and effort will go to looking for rookies who will be best 22. Mature age rookies if I can.

Most my players will be in their 2nd or 3rd season. Not much improvement potential beyond that.

Get discount priced players and players who underperformed because of injury (but look to be a solid 22 this year).



Will no doubt have a tonne of money left over with this approach. I'll try avoid anyone too expensive. I'll get Ablett or Swan as my captain and never change it unless they don't play. Other than that no super expensive players. They will drop in price and I'll get them later.

[NiB]

My team has 3 guns in every area, need 2 rookies to play in the starting 22 in each area. Fill the bench with rookies and look for the breakout players (the hard part)

[IRS]

Breakout players are indeed tough. But the NAB cup will certainly help.


This year has a lot of underpriced risky players, though.

Anyone taking a shot with Barry Hall?

[D.C.]

I just joined up and pencilled in a potential team (budgeted so much that I still had 600k left to burn).

Clearly, I need some more practice at this. :p

EDIT: I took a shot, IRS. Thought he was a bit of a steal at that price (and given he'll be the Bulldogs clear-cut target).

[IRS]

I came out with 500k left over
I think once the real thing gets closer a few of my potential cheap buys won't look as good and I'll trade in for safer commodities.

[RunningMild]

EDIT: I took a shot, IRS. Thought he was a bit of a steal at that price (and given he'll be the Bulldogs clear-cut target).

Hall will be a bust. I give him 5 games max before he gets injured or suspended. :p

[ireadtabloids]

I'm in this year. Feel free to invite me to your league :D

[ireadtabloids]

When registering type in this number at the end of the application where it asks you what kind of league you would like to be in.

832036

So put that in as the code for your league?
Done! Hope it works!

Hmm... I guess that leagues filled up. Ah well.

[Spazzallo]

Keep trying mate, theres one spot still left according to the league page.

Not sure if anyone has done this but please refrain from having 2 teams in the same league.

[Cerebral]

Gibbs, or Murphy?

THE CHOICES

[NiB]

Put my first team 2gether and had about 100k left. Midfield's up the shit though with 2 many rookies. Time to refine !

Plenty of nice bargains up forward, my defender rookies are where I'm having dramas

[ireadtabloids]

Keep trying mate, theres one spot still left according to the league page.

Not sure if anyone has done this but please refrain from having 2 teams in the same league.

Lol, I think I'm actually playing a completely different competition. The Toyota AFL Dream Team. Not going to join the second one and become hopelessly addicted. Thanks for the offer though!

[Campdog]

Put my first team 2gether and had about 100k left. Midfield's up the shit though with 2 many rookies. Time to refine !

Plenty of nice bargains up forward, my defender rookies are where I'm having dramas

Rookie defenders are hard to find this year. Im happy with pretty much everything else in my team (NAB cup performances still to decide a few spots though). Ive still got about 130k left to spend so I might have to spend a bit more down back but dont really know what on at this stage :S

[[m]averick]

Keep trying mate, theres one spot still left according to the league page.

Not sure if anyone has done this but please refrain from having 2 teams in the same league.



Snaked the last spot.

[IRS]

Gibbs, or Murphy?

THE CHOICES

Neither.

[Cerebral]

I'll go with Gibbs he's usually more consistent.

[texta]

Neither.I took this option.

As far as backline rookies go, I've got three pencilled in. We'll see how the next few NAB games go before I feel confident though. My backline feels pretty weak though. I've got mostly $200k~$300k players to make up for my expensive midfield.

I think I'm going to have to do some jiggling later.

[StorminNorman]

Just thought you guys might like to know that there's a Supercoach iPhone app (http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/afl-supercoach-season-2010/id355636989?mt=8) so you can do all your Supercoaching from anywhere. Seems like it's pretty good, too.

It's made by the same guys that make the Fantasy EPL iPhone app, so if you're familiar with that, then you'll know what to expect.

[ireadtabloids]

I'll go with Gibbs he's usually more consistent.

After his NAB Cup performance I'm not so sure. I'd rather back Murphy.
I decided not to take either as there's no guarantee that either will have as good a season as last year for the cost.

[Spazzallo]

Murphy is more of a goal kicker so has potential to score higher but isn't he still injured?

[Cerebral]

Murphy and Waite should be on track for Round 1.

[RunningMild]

From what I saw of yesterday's match, the question has to be asked if Scully and Trengove will be very good pick-ups when the rest of the team is so awful. Trengove's great kicking went to waste because all his passes were dropped (so no effective disposals?), and Scully was getting hospital passes all day.

[Campdog]

They didnt score particularly well with Trengove getting 52 and Scully 39. I wont be getting both that is for sure but im still considering one or the other.

[RunningMild]

Where do you see how much they scored? Or is that only for DT?

[texta]

www.fanfooty.com.au

[Campdog]

You can also just check out the heraldsun website for the resutls.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/match?matchid=1111112046141

You will notice that the last 2 columns are for SC points and the SC average of the players.

[texta]

Dream Team and Super Coach are provisionally done.

We need to recruit a few more DT players though.

[Spazzallo]

Spent the last 2 hours fiddling with my team. No doubt I'll be changing it again when the Herald Sun releases all SC scores from the last 4 weeks, including the regional challenge games!

There are still 2 teams in our league which are incomplete. Under new rules, teams that are not complete are automatically kicked out of the league at the commencement of round 1. So make sure you finish your team, no matter how crap it is!

Finally, I've realised Kevin Sheedy has somehow snuck into our league. I will remove him if someone else is interested in joining (talking about Supercoach here). Please PM me if interested!

[RunningMild]

SC team is done. Now to wait for round 1 and make final changes based on selections or injuries...

[ireadtabloids]

Dream Team and Super Coach are provisionally done.

We need to recruit a few more DT players though.

Mate, I've already been recruiting.
The man behind The Sleepyheads is an old high school mate :D

KK, we've got space for seven more teams :D
So if anyone wants a second side with nothing, but low value players so they can make a massive season profit go ahead!

Btw, we need Mario's Allstars and Trompe le Monde to have finalised teams in the next week or they'll miss out on all the fun. Just a heads up.

[RunningMild]

Finally, I've realised Kevin Sheedy has somehow snuck into our league. I will remove him if someone else is interested in joining (talking about Supercoach here). Please PM me if interested!

I'd rather we keep Sheedy in the league. How much fun would it be to beat him? ;)

[IRS]

dream team code 654666

go join up.


post up your team if you're game.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/iares/afldt.jpg

I still have lots of changes, and I didn't pick my subs yet. But I have this team with more than 200,000 above the minimum to spend on the bench.

[grimace06]

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh192/Spiro89/Untitled.jpg

Not finished quite yet.

EDIT: WTF something went wrong here

[IRS]

C.Cornes? Really? I'm struggling with Kane and Salopek because they were down a bit last season so I can get them a bit cheaper this year, you know how well they are traveling?


dream team code 654666

go join up.


post up your team if you're game.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/iares/afldt.jpg

I still have lots of changes, and I didn't pick my subs yet. But I have this team with more than 200,000 above the minimum to spend on the bench.

already changed this team

considering some freo youngsters. Hill, DeBoer and Ballayntine all represent good value to me!

[RunningMild]

dream team code 654666

go join up.


But it doesn't have Sheedy... ;)

[texta]

I threw this together when I made my last post.

It's still in need of a lot of work but I've been focusing on Supercoach.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2594/23773453.png

[RunningMild]

"Plus. this year, to help with the start-of-the-season rush, we’ve staggered the lockout in Round 1. To give you more time to review the teams for the Friday-Sunday games in the first round, you only have to lock in Richmond and Carlton players for the first game. You’ve got another 24 hours to sort out the rest of your side."

Hooray!

EDIT: I just read through the terms and it sounds like a really good idea. Before Thursday night's game, Richmond and Carlton players will be locked in, while other players can be swapped in or out up to the Friday lockout. After the Thursday lockout, you can't swap in/out Richmond or Carlton players. If you set a Richmond or Carlton player to be captain, vice captain or an emergency, you can't re-assign those roles after the player is locked in.

Apparently, a similar system will be used for the split round. Sounds good!

[Campdog]

"Plus. this year, to help with the start-of-the-season rush, we’ve staggered the lockout in Round 1. To give you more time to review the teams for the Friday-Sunday games in the first round, you only have to lock in Richmond and Carlton players for the first game. You’ve got another 24 hours to sort out the rest of your side."

Hooray!

EDIT: I just read through the terms and it sounds like a really good idea. Before Thursday night's game, Richmond and Carlton players will be locked in, while other players can be swapped in or out up to the Friday lockout. After the Thursday lockout, you can't swap in/out Richmond or Carlton players. If you set a Richmond or Carlton player to be captain, vice captain or an emergency, you can't re-assign those roles after the player is locked in.

Apparently, a similar system will be used for the split round. Sounds good!

That is a very good idea, i like it!

Its getting close and Ive yet to finalize my super coach side. There is only a handful of players left i think from my initial team. Most have all been replaced as the NAB has progressed. Rucks are my real problem atm. With skipper (hawks) going down im stuck for a 4th ruck and i also am a bit so-so on my others. Im thinking about Hille but im just not sure.

[ireadtabloids]

That is a very good idea, i like it!

Its getting close and Ive yet to finalize my super coach side. There is only a handful of players left i think from my initial team. Most have all been replaced as the NAB has progressed. Rucks are my real problem atm. With skipper (hawks) going down im stuck for a 4th ruck and i also am a bit so-so on my others. Im thinking about Hille but im just not sure.

You could try Carton's Warnock. He got well beaten by Natanui in the NAB Cup, but he's a 206cm ruckman in his early twenties. Should double in value from his current cheap price. Edit: Texta has already done it. Excuse my lack of originality ;)

[Spazzallo]

Otherwise grab Tippett in your foward line and grab Lobbe from Port Adelaide as your fourth ruck so you can chuck Tippett in your ruck when the other 4 ruckmen you have ineveitably get injured :).

[IRS]

What's behind the hype for Robbie Gray, anyone?

[D.C.]

Otherwise grab Tippett in your foward line and grab Lobbe from Port Adelaide as your fourth ruck so you can chuck Tippett in your ruck when the other 4 ruckmen you have ineveitably get injured :).
This is exactly what I did a few days back. Tippett, in particular, is pretty good value if he can reproduce his forward line success from last year (and still flop around for outrageous free kicks).

[Spazzallo]

Tippett became ultra consistant at the end of last season, but the first half of the season is why his price is only $400,000 so it should be a good investment :).

[RunningMild]

Otherwise grab Tippett in your foward line and grab Lobbe from Port Adelaide as your fourth ruck so you can chuck Tippett in your ruck when the other 4 ruckmen you have ineveitably get injured :).

Did they change the rules this year? You can't swap players between positions! If you pick Tippett as a forward, he's gonna be up forward all year.

What's behind the hype for Robbie Gray, anyone?

Same question, but for Matthew Lobbe.

[grimace06]

What's behind the hype for Robbie Gray, anyone?

Hell Yes - he's fragile but he's ready to explode. Boak, Gray and Salopek (and Hartlett) should have big years.

As for Lobbe - he SHOULD (SHOULD) be our 2nd Ruck all year but apparently Williams has more faith in Westhoff :/ Wait and see

[D.C.]

Well, at the very least Lobbe will surely have to get some playing time this year. With no Lade, and Brogan sure to go down at least once with an injury, there are only so many pre-seasons the club can hype up the guy before actually playing him in the H&A season.

I'd be amazed if Hartlett gets through the whole season too be honest. Even before he was drafted, the guy seems so ****ing injury-prone. And Salopek, well, he should have been elite a couple of years back. Teases the fans with a couple of fantastic games in a row, then slips back to average form.

[grimace06]

Well, at the very least Lobbe will surely have to get some playing time this year. With no Lade, and Brogan sure to go down at least once with an injury, there are only so many pre-seasons the club can hype up the guy before actually playing him in the H&A season.

I'd be amazed if Hartlett gets through the whole season too be honest. Even before he was drafted, the guy seems so ****ing injury-prone. And Salopek, well, he should have been elite a couple of years back. Teases the fans with a couple of fantastic games in a row, then slips back to average form.

On Salopek - he had an elite year in 08' as midfielder but then in 09' he played off half back and struggled both with form and injury. A move back to the middle - I don't know about you but I think our on-ballers are a class act. Watch out for Mitch Banner this year too. Roger James would be proud.

[Spazzallo]

Did they change the rules this year? You can't swap players between positions! If you pick Tippett as a forward, he's gonna be up forward all year.



Same question, but for Matthew Lobbe.

Yeah you can change multiple position players into another position as long as you have another player with the same positions to swap with. Therefore having Lobbe as a 4th ruckmen with Tippet up foward means you can swap Tippett into the ruck and play a rookie in the foward line if one of your ruckmen go down. Hodge and Goddard are another decent mix.

[IRS]

Hell Yes - he's fragile but he's ready to explode. Boak, Gray and Salopek (and Hartlett) should have big years.

As for Lobbe - he SHOULD (SHOULD) be our 2nd Ruck all year but apparently Williams has more faith in Westhoff :/ Wait and see

I'm on the fence about using Salopek. He is pretty cheap this year

I think Boak is a safe pick but not that much value left in him.


I just checked out the teams at bigfooty and everyone seems to have Gray but I'm not sure why.


How many games do you think Banner will get this year?

[grimace06]

I'm on the fence about using Salopek. He is pretty cheap this year

I think Boak is a safe pick but not that much value left in him.


I just checked out the teams at bigfooty and everyone seems to have Gray but I'm not sure why.


How many games do you think Banner will get this year?

Banner is a chance for round 1 - if I could guess I'd say 8-15 games for the year possibly more depend on our form.

[IRS]

I agree. I think he will get a run for a couple rounds early then disappear until ports chances of making the finals is dead >___>


Just curious. Especially after the hype he has got post NAB cup.



All these injury rumors are psyching me out. If only De Boer was fit, I'd have finished my team. As it is now I have 140k in the bank, and struggling to upgrade a cheap player without compromising a tonne of value.

[grimace06]

How much is Hayden Ballentyne going for? isn't he around 140k?

[IRS]

If you're talking about DT he is about 240k


I am debating having him in my team. There's a few players in the forwards who are semi-proven with a little improvement left. Tippet, Gray, Dangerfield... It's tough to choose. (I think Dangerfield is a lock though)


He has a slight injury which is turning me off a little. But his NAB cup was great.

[IRS]

any thoughts on Waite?

He is priced at scoring 78 points. Reduced from 86 because his injury last year. But actually the injured game he only scored 2 artificially changing his average. If you take that game out he averaged 97


He is a certainty for round 1. Just an injury concern down the road since it was a knee injury last year.

[IRS]

Whew. I think I am finally done.


I still have 42,000 left over which I am a little uneasy about though

[Spazzallo]

After the release of the supercoach spreadsheet and more browsing through fanfooty, after a good 12-15 hours of working on my supercoach it is finally done :). Posting it Friday night :D.

[Super Mario]

So we have 7 spots left in our Dreamteam comp, code is: 654666

If it's not filled up these are the celebrities teams I can pick from:

Andrew Demetriou
Karl Langdon
Tom Harley
Graham Cornes
Leigh Matthews
Brett Burton
Gerard Whateley
Adam Goodes
Jonathan Brown
Dale Thomas
Dean Cox
Chad Cornes
Luke Darcy
Matthew Pavlich
Barry Hall
Caroline Wilson

[RunningMild]

Pick Demetriou and Caro. They know **** all about footy so you'll get some easybeats. :D

[grimace06]

Robbie Gray in doubt due to back injury.

[Spazzallo]

Real or SEN bullshit like the rumour last year about Goddard? ><

[grimace06]

Real or SEN bullshit like the rumour last year about Goddard? ><

Well this was reported on Channel 7 news - he has to get through training tomorrow.

[IRS]

I saw it on AFL.com.au


I'd stay away even if he plays. Might get out there for half a game then be done for a month. Not worth the risk. Take a Ziebell or Tippet instead (unsure if they are similar prices in SC, but they are in DT)



EDIT: Finished my team including reserves. Only 1 of my original reserves wasn't in the best 22!

[IRS]

awesome start for me so far.

I have Carrazzo

[RunningMild]

I have Martin and Warnock. Time to see how they did.

[Cerebral]

Damn, should have swapped Yarran for Betts. At least I had Carazzo !

Martin did alright as well, but he's on my bench.

[Spazzallo]

Should have had Connors on the field, scored 85 :(.

Whoever is Trompe le Lombre better hurry up and finish their team because they'll be booted from the league in 6.5 hours.

[RunningMild]

After the release of the supercoach spreadsheet and more browsing through fanfooty, after a good 12-15 hours of working on my supercoach it is finally done :). Posting it Friday night :D.

I'm not sure whether to post mine as well or wait until the first round of price changes. ;)

[Spazzallo]

I'm not sure whether to post mine as well or wait until the first round of price changes. ;)

Post post post! After lockout of course, though pretty sure every bargain is well known to everyone thanks to the Herald Sun >.>.

[RunningMild]

Post post post! After lockout of course, though pretty sure every bargain is well known to everyone thanks to the Herald Sun >.>.

Why don't you post yours first? ;)

[IRS]

No offense, but neither of you are even close to good enough to be worth copying.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/iares/afldt2.jpg

[[m]averick]

That's fairly similar to a bunch I've seen on BigFooty.

Anyway, I'm out of Supercoach already. I was trying to finish my team before the lockout on Thursday, realised it was a partial lockout, threw in a heap of rookies thinking I'd come back to them, but at least three were a combination of Richmond or Carlton players, effectively locking them in for the rest of the year unless I trade them.

[grimace06]

Kinda annoyed with the fact that I left Ryder on the field and Warnock on the bench.

[texta]

I have CarrazzoGood one. I almost put him in and am now kicking myself.

I'm pretty happy with how my teams are going. I've had a lot of my mid and low range players score already and am hoping for some decent efforts from the premium crew.

Massive disaster though: accidentally put Taylor Hunt in my SC team instead of Josh Hunt. That's one trade I'll never get back. :(

averick;1191426']That's fairly similar to a bunch I've seen on BigFooty.

Anyway, I'm out of Supercoach already. I was trying to finish my team before the lockout on Thursday, realised it was a partial lockout, threw in a heap of rookies thinking I'd come back to them, but at least three were a combination of Richmond or Carlton players, effectively locking them in for the rest of the year unless I trade them.You could still easily win the league from there though. Hold onto the worthwhile rookies until they jump in value, trade for premiums. You only need to win about 8 games to make the finals and if you've got trades + cash towards the end you should do okay.

The strategy for winning an individual league should be pretty different to trying to do well in the overall comp.


Kinda annoyed with the fact that I left Ryder on the field and Warnock on the bench.(Assuming you're talking DT and Robert Warnock) I'm not sure that those 20 points matter much at this point.

[IRS]

Yeah. and nobody is going to legitimately think Warnock will do better in his debut than Ryder. It's easy to wish you had a player after the fact.

That's fairly similar to a bunch I've seen on BigFooty.

Not really. Except the completely obvious choices which will be popular for all the successful teams.

[IRS]

Brisbane are absolutely killing my otherwise perfect start

[Spazzallo]

Why don't you post yours first? ;)

I'm on slow mobile broadband on holidays in Queensland :p so don't really want to be uploading anything either cause its shit expensive! But I'll try and do it tomorrow :).

My entire backline has played and all the numbers put together add up to a 100 average. I'm very bloody happy :D.

[RunningMild]

I'm on slow mobile broadband on holidays in Queensland :p so don't really want to be uploading anything either cause its shit expensive! But I'll try and do it tomorrow :).

Fine, I'll post mine first.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/Mr_M_/Hyper%20Stuff/SupercoachTeam.jpg

Pretty happy with the scores so far. Looks like my gamble to go with Shuey ahead of Jetta this week has paid off. :p

[IRS]

Fine, I'll post mine first.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a380/Mr_M_/Hyper%20Stuff/SupercoachTeam.jpg

Pretty happy with the scores so far. Looks like my gamble to go with Shuey ahead of Jetta this week has paid off. :p

Sorry, dude. But that is an absolutely god-awful team.

[RunningMild]

Sorry, dude. But that is an absolutely god-awful team.

Now when you say that, are you talking in terms of Dream Team scoring, or are you keeping in mind the fact that players who are awesome in one game will be shit in the other and vice-versa? :p

[IRS]

Now when you say that, are you talking in terms of Dream Team scoring, or are you keeping in mind the fact that players who are awesome in one game will be shit in the other and vice-versa? :p

I'm talking about

1- having a huge amount of top dollar players who have already peaked and will only drop in value this season. (Chapman, Cox, Goddard, Bock, Enright are all bad picks for this year. They are upgrade targets)
2- Paying an absolute fortune on your bench
3- having lots of players in your starting team who will struggle to be best 22

[Spazzallo]

I think the team is quite good, just a lot of money on the bench which could be used to upgrade a couple of other players. But otherwise it's fine, especially for supercoach. I have quite a few of your rookies and mid-priced players. I'll try and get it up later tonight.

[texta]

I personally wouldn't be wasting that kind of money on the bench. As far as the premium players go I think if you're really focused on playing the game and winning then IRS is probably right. I don't take it that seriously, so I've got a few of those guys that are probably going to drop in value. It's a poor long term strategy but my primary goal is to get a decent score early to psyche out my opponents in my local friends' competition.

[[m]averick]

M: Your forward line is really bad. Why do you have Amon Buchanan, Lachie Hansen and Jack Ziebell? They're all $300 000 picks who havent really shown anything (the latter two especially). I mean, I love the z-factor and hope he is as good as he promises to be, but he played ten games last year and averaged 15 touches per game.

You also have three rookies starting in the midfield, plus Ball.

[Spazzallo]

2151 in the first round :D. Only let downs were Gumbleton (who will be gone next week and Franklin will come in), Hille (50-something) and Masten (50-something, has one more week to prove himself though I could just upgrade him in a few more).

My team:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/Spazzallo/supercoach2010round1team.jpg

[RunningMild]

I'm talking about

1- having a huge amount of top dollar players who have already peaked and will only drop in value this season. (Chapman, Cox, Goddard, Bock, Enright are all bad picks for this year. They are upgrade targets)
2- Paying an absolute fortune on your bench
3- having lots of players in your starting team who will struggle to be best 22

Fair enough, but if I may counter that:

1- If last year's form is anything to go by, those top dollar players are worth every penny and will score loads of points. And if they somehow don't justify that price, I can replace them with anyone I want because they are the most expensive players at their position. Either way, I win. :p

2- I made sure my whole team was playing in round 1 (last year I had a whole bench that wasn't playing round 1 and ran out of trades pretty quickly), so some cheap bench players like Rohan, Dennis-Lane and Sheppard got cut. Still, it's probably cheaper than my bench was last year, but this time everyone is posting scores right off the bat.

3- I'm not sure who you're referring to. Maybe Maguire, Shuey, and Hansen? Other than that, everyone looks like a pretty certain starter.

M: Your forward line is really bad. Why do you have Amon Buchanan, Lachie Hansen and Jack Ziebell?

I thought Buchanan might have a great season in that talent-filled Brisbane team, but he was always a 50/50 bet. Now that he's injured I'll probably trade him out ASAP.

Lachie Hansen- I needed a cheap replacement for Rohan, Hansen was playing, and if he's got half as much potential as you claim than he could be a solid pickup. He scored 75 this weekend, so if he can improve on that he may be worth it IMO.

Jack Ziebell- He scored 110! If he keeps that up he'll be worth the money, no question.

They're all $300 000 picks who havent really shown anything (the latter two especially). I mean, I love the z-factor and hope he is as good as he promises to be, but he played ten games last year and averaged 15 touches per game.

My theory is that Ziebell and Hansen will get better because they're not even close to peaking yet. And yeah, Buchanan may have peaked already but it's amazing how good people look when they're surrounded by talent... :p

You also have three rookies starting in the midfield, plus Ball.

I believe those rookies will overshoot their price by a mile, and in some cases, outscore players who are demanding double or triple their salary. Go see their scores from this round and you'll see why I decided to start them (particularly Barlow ;)).

As for Ball, I felt like I needed another experienced midfielder to go with my crop of rookies, and I think Ball will do pretty well at Collingwood. Again, if he doesn't, I can replace him with no hassle.

I'm really only aiming to win the Hyper comp this year, so the first three rounds are like pre-season anyway. ;)

[RunningMild]

2151 in the first round :D. Only let downs were Gumbleton (who will be gone next week and Franklin will come in), Hille (50-something) and Masten (50-something, has one more week to prove himself though I could just upgrade him in a few more).

2056 for me. Pretty happy with the team so far, and the bench looks to have enough depth to cover injuries and save on trades down the line.

Biggest disappointment was probably Buchanan, only because he got injured. Cox was a let-down too, but Woosha said he's about a month from his best so I'll give him time to prove himself. There were a few other disappointing scores which I'll be keeping an eye on, but also a lot of youngsters who went above and beyond my expectations, so the signs are good.

[Campdog]

Im pretty happy how my team went. 2339 and i had a few under performers. M Clark wasn't well so i can expect a much better run from him next week. Im worried about Trengrove from Melb but will give him a chance. Also Gram and warren were a bit of a let down but im sure they will have better games next week.

[[m]averick]

2136 with two ducks and Barlow on the bench scoring 151. Cant believe Barlow was my team's highest scorer sitting on the bench. Not a bad start for a team that was thrown together on Thursday afternoon.

Puts me 40 000 overall. Slow burn this year.


EDIT: what to do with Barlow? Should I give him a run this week and bench Martin?

[IRS]

Fair enough, but if I may counter that:

1- If last year's form is anything to go by, those top dollar players are worth every penny and will score loads of points. And if they somehow don't justify that price, I can replace them with anyone I want because they are the most expensive players at their position. Either way, I win. :p


That's not the point at all. The point is to find value. You spend a fortune on Cox, Goddard, Chapman, Bock etc when there's no way they will outperform their last year. So a wiser player would have picked some good players with a lower year last year or played with injury last year (like C.Cornes and Chapman last season) and they can pick up a guy like Cox in round 6 for 100,000 less!





I do support you getting Ziebell though. Mav will be shown wrong. Him along with Dangerfield and Hill are the premium 2nd year options this DT/SC

[Pan]

That's not the point at all. The point is to find value. You spend a fortune on Cox, Goddard, Chapman, Bock etc when there's no way they will outperform their last year. So a wiser player would have picked some good players with a lower year last year or played with injury last year (like C.Cornes and Chapman last season) and they can pick up a guy like Cox in round 6 for 100,000 less!





I do support you getting Ziebell though. Mav will be shown wrong. Him along with Dangerfield and Hill are the premium 2nd year options this DT/SC


Hi IRS,

With all due respect,I think you are thinking about things the right way, but you are incorrect with this bit of advice to some extent :)

[Pan]

I'd love to know which team is yours? I'd like to get your 2c critical opinion on on my team, and then I could return the favor on yours?(Mine is DudeWhere'sMyFooty?)

Pan

[IRS]

I am only on Dreamteam and I already posted my team



(and to toot my own horn I finished 75/~280,000 last year so I am pretty OK at playing this. I guarantee Mr_M gets squashed this year with that team)

[[m]averick]

That's not the point at all. The point is to find value. You spend a fortune on Cox, Goddard, Chapman, Bock etc when there's no way they will outperform their last year. So a wiser player would have picked some good players with a lower year last year or played with injury last year (like C.Cornes and Chapman last season) and they can pick up a guy like Cox in round 6 for 100,000 less!


It's a gamble either way. Everyone was saying they wouldnt pick up Ablett because he was too expensive but his price went up in the first three rounds. He was almost 750 000 dollars but he was, like for many other people, the first I picked.

I know what you're saying but there are some non-negotiables in Supercoach and Ablett, Goddard and Swan are non-negotiables.


I do support you getting Ziebell though. Mav will be shown wrong. Him along with Dangerfield and Hill are the premium 2nd year options this DT/SC


I hope you're wrong too. I hope Ziebell is the second coming of Christ. It's just that at 320 000 he is very overpriced. 10 games last season at an average of 15 possessions a week. By all rights he should be 230-240 000.

[RunningMild]

(and to toot my own horn I finished 75/~280,000 last year so I am pretty OK at playing this. I guarantee Mr_M gets squashed this year with that team)

You do know that the team I posted isn't gonna stay unchanged for 22 rounds, right? Last year I had a team where some of the starting 22 weren't even scoring for half the year, and I still reached the prelims. I think I know what I'm doing here. :p

Also, I don't understand why you've switched from constructive criticism to completely random and petty criticism, but I don't care. It's good motivation. ;)

[texta]

You do know that the team I posted isn't gonna stay unchanged for 22 rounds, right? Last year I had a team where some of the starting 22 weren't even scoring for half the year, and I still reached the prelims. I think I know what I'm doing here. :p
That being said, last year I picked a team that was initially made up of over 50% Richmond players and spent most of the year trading them out and I still finished in the top 4. The hyper league is not a good yardstick.

[RunningMild]

The hyper league is not a good yardstick.

True, but it's the only yardstick I care about atm, which I've already pointed out.

[Super Mario]

I refuse to have any Collingwood players in my team.

[IRS]

averick;1192283']It's a gamble either way. Everyone was saying they wouldnt pick up Ablett because he was too expensive but his price went up in the first three rounds. He was almost 750 000 dollars but he was, like for many other people, the first I picked.

I know what you're saying but there are some non-negotiables in Supercoach and Ablett, Goddard and Swan are non-negotiables.




That's garbage. You don't need any of those players at the beginning (or even end) of the year. I think over paying for 1 player like an Ablett or Swan is good for a captain choice. Other than that, get them on discount.

averick;1192283']
I hope you're wrong too. I hope Ziebell is the second coming of Christ. It's just that at 320 000 he is very overpriced. 10 games last season at an average of 15 possessions a week. By all rights he should be 230-240 000.


Players get priced on their performance last year. If they score higher this year than last, they are good value.

Ziebell will. Easily. Probably by 20 points per match.


Easy logic. Guys are drafted young and although skilled, not quite physically ready for AFL. It's usually the 2nd full season where a players average jumps dramatically. Go look at all the historically good picks of recent years. You're a north fan, just check out Ben Warren. The dude went from boy to man in 6 months.

Ziebell is also playing more time in the midfield this year.

[texta]

My team:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/Spazzallo/supercoach2010round1team.jpgStill got McGrath down back and Maguire on the bench? :p

[IRS]

why adcock? why?

[Spazzallo]

Still got McGrath down back and Maguire on the bench? :p

Haha gonna stick with it because I know as soon as I change it McGrath will have a blinder. If McGrath doesn't get better he will be the first player I upgrade.

[ireadtabloids]

Still got McGrath down back and Maguire on the bench? :p

Lol, Gumby?
Hey, I reckon the Hyper DT is going alright. I'm getting owned!
Blast you Sidebottom!

[Cerebral]

Planned to but forgot to make Reiwoldt captain

ahhhhhh

[Patdog]

328 points

[texta]

Got about 450 from my three saints players and then 64 points from my two players in the West Coast v Port game. I think the Cox experiment has fairly conclusively failed and I'm going to trade him out before he halves in value.

[Super Mario]

I completely forgot to make any this week, fml.

[Cerebral]

Williams and Tippett are seriously letting me down.

Edit: So did Yarran. At least Gumbleton did okay. God damn my forwardline sucks ass.

[RunningMild]

Good to hear I'm not the only one who's players are letting me down. At least Goddard is earning his money, looks like he may actually increase in price.

Also, Barlow is the pick up of the century. :p

[Spazzallo]

****ing Gumbleton plays well this week. Should be around 2150 if all goes well tomorrow but I'm getting very impatient with Grey. Might just trade him for Jonathan Brown (why do I forget him every friggin year?).

[[m]averick]

Had an absolute shocker again this week. Left Barlow on the bench again, left Gumbleton on the bench with Rohan on the field and the Cox experiment has really failed. Think I'll have to trade him before I lose three million dollars. Not to mention that Ablett has really taken his foot off the pedal now that he doesnt have such a massive incentive to play well, with a Charlie swinging around his neck.

Scored 2051. Grr.

[texta]

Who is DudeWheresmyfooty? they're ranked 3rd in the whole competition. It's pretty close otherwise. 2nd to 14th only has a few points in it.

I'm expecting much better scores this week now that I've cut some dead wood. Cox for Seaby = best trade ever.

[[m]averick]

He's got a good team.

Just wondering what I should do with Cox? I had no idea how he was tracking preseason, so I just chucked him in, but it's pretty clear that he's battling. Should I sideways trade for Sandilands, downgrade to [who?] or just hold onto him and lose about 100k and hope he comes good?

[IRS]

I believe round 2 you should use both trades since it's right before prices move. If you can't find 2 better trades to make. Then do it.

[grimace06]

Who should I trade Chad Cornes for - Broughton, Grimes or Malceski? All are averaging around 100 thus far.

[[m]averick]

Isnt Chadwick a pretty decent supercoach performer? I think I had him last year and he averaged 100. Unless he's injured...?


I believe round 2 you should use both trades since it's right before prices move. If you can't find 2 better trades to make. Then do it.


Year, I'll probably go sideways to Sandilands. Not sold on Seaby being a season performer and NicNat will be up and down.

[Campdog]

Who should I trade Chad Cornes for - Broughton, Grimes or Malceski? All are averaging around 100 thus far.

I would go Malceski. His value is is set to jump about 80k and they play the tigers this week ;)

Im pretty much set to do the following trades.

Clark > Seaby
Hall > Brown

Both are going to have huge drops in price while the guys i bring in are set to go up in value buy quite a fair bit.

Even if Seaby cant keep it up all year there is the potential to trade him to Cox later on in the year if his form picks up once his price bottoms out.

[IRS]

I'm thinking Tippet > Ballayntine, Salopek > Okeefe


I think I will leave Clark although he will drop nearly 100,000... Just hope he doesn't get injured after the price drop and ****s me.

[Spazzallo]

I'm thinking Tippet > Ballayntine, Salopek > Okeefe


I think I will leave Clark although he will drop nearly 100,000... Just hope he doesn't get injured after the price drop and ****s me.

He's been battling the flu the past week so he should hit peak fitness by next week at the latest. If he's still playing crap I'd worry.

[Campdog]

I'm thinking Tippet > Ballayntine, Salopek > Okeefe


I think I will leave Clark although he will drop nearly 100,000... Just hope he doesn't get injured after the price drop and ****s me.

Nice trades, Okeefe is just too good not to have. I wish i had stuck with Ballayntine before i changed him to Warren (Nth Melb). Really regretting that now but got to move on.

I was thinking about keeping Clark and im sure he will get back to his best but it was really my only option for getting in Brown so that i could have Roo, Okeefe, Pav & Brown all up fwd and Seaby is going to make me some nice cash. I might be able to trade him for Cox later in the year form depending.

[Spazzallo]

Got called into work this afternoon and didn't get a chance to swap Grey out for Brown. Grrr.

[Cerebral]

Finally make Reiwoldt captain and this shit happens. ****ing

[Spazzallo]

Well if the talk about Riewoldt's injury is this serious I suppose a straight swap for Brown shouldn't be too bad ><.

[Cerebral]

It's more I forgot to make him captain last week and he makes 160 something. Make him captain this week and he makes 25.
Supercoach hates me.

[RunningMild]

averick;1194416']Just wondering what I should do with Cox? I had no idea how he was tracking preseason, so I just chucked him in, but it's pretty clear that he's battling. Should I sideways trade for Sandilands, downgrade to [who?] or just hold onto him and lose about 100k and hope he comes good?

After round 1, Worsfold announced that Cox was still a month away from his best, so keep that in mind when you decide what to do.

I can't believe people were saying that Goddard wouldn't be worth the money. He scored 232 in a low-scoring game! :p

[Cerebral]

He scored 116 in a low scoring game.

[Spazzallo]

Brown got 141. As opposed to Grey who got zero. **** me.

[[m]averick]

Purely in Supercoach terms and not in actual footy terms, I'm pretty happy I dont have Reiwoldt and looking like Clark might cop a week is good news again.

So many people wouldve had Roo as their captain.

[RunningMild]

He scored 116 in a low scoring game.

Why would it double the score if I've only got him set as Vice-Captain... :confused:

[[m]averick]

Just cant quite get my balance right. Forward under-performing. Midfield is dynamite. Left Wells on the bench this week and he responds with 132 points.

Shouldve backed my gut feeling and locked in Harvey as captain. Knew he'd respond well, but, in a way, I'm glad I've stuck with my preseason principle of keeping Ablett as captain all year.

[Cerebral]

Why would it double the score if I've only got him set as Vice-Captain... :confused:

Because your captain probably didn't play for some reason.

[RunningMild]

Because your captain probably didn't play for some reason.

My captain plays in the last match of the round (he's Gary Ablett). I thought SC would wait until all the scores came in before doubling them. I've never seen it double the VC score just because the captain was yet to play, hence my earlier confusion.

[Cerebral]

Ah. Weird.

Tippett is so getting the boot from my forwardline.

[Spazzallo]

Holy **** our supercoach league is ranked 40! Out of nearly 30,000! Go team! :D

EDIT: I am aware this is likely a glitch >_>.

[RunningMild]

Good to see all my highly paid players actually pulling their weight. I was ready to drop either Chapman or Pavlich but they responded in sparkling fashion, Ablett once again justified his price with a colossal 157, and Enright and Goddard kept up their high standard. Ball was also ready to be traded but ended up scoring 100, and Morabito scored a 96. They were both on the bench and I still got 2100.

Also, I'm really glad I swapped out Bock for Hodge last week. That worked out perfectly. :p

[Spazzallo]

****ing Connors you drunken bastard, have to waste a trade on you now or miss out on some money for the next 8 ****ing weeks.

[Super Mario]

Riewoltd for Rioloi
Bock for ????

[IRS]

Bock for Fisher



considering Rioli or J.Brown for Riewoldt

[NiB]

Riewoltd for Rioloi
Bock for ????

Malcheski for sure

[RunningMild]

Cox just scored a cool 119. Supercoaches who couldn't trade him out in time are breathing a sigh of relief. :p

[Cerebral]

Goddamn Franklin for getting suspended so I had to sub him for freaking Gumbleton.

[NiB]

goddamn franklin for getting suspended so i had to sub him for freaking gumbleton.

....hahahahaha

[Cerebral]

8. Dal Santo, Nick (Capt) 130

shit

Edit: lmao Milne scored -2

[texta]

The equation: if Paul Chapman + 75 points is greater than Bartel and Enright then I win. It doesn't look good. :(

EDIT: SC website appears to have messed up but my calculations indicate that I've won 2177 to 2155. Huzzah.

[[m]averick]

Averaging 2100+ points and somehow managed to lose by about 30 points. If only I'd put Barlow on the field instead of Martin. When will I learn?

[texta]

I had Morabito's 30 and on the bench Trengrove scoring 129. Pretty happy that I won.

[Super Mario]

I think it may be time to upgrade Morabito or Bastinac to Judd or Ablett

[ireadtabloids]

Goddamn Franklin for getting suspended so I had to sub him for freaking Gumbleton.

Gee, I wish Johnny Brown hadn't played so I coulda done that... =)

[NiB]

Dangerfield out for a month, I'd love to bring Chappy in but I don't trust his dodgy hamstrings

Edit: If only I got Chappy, Ablett being out royally screwed me and the other 300,000 SC's who have him as captain

[IRS]

Won one of my matches by 4 points! 3 vs 3 players I was 100 behind at half time.

Nice!

Well done Pav!

[texta]

The equation for tonight's game (DT) is that I need Goddard to score less than Montagna and Kreuzer + 42 points. Barring a terrible first quarter injury, I'm feeling confident.

In SC I need Goddard, Judd and Montagna to score more than Clinton Jones and Ryan Houlihan + 40 points. I should hopefully get over the line there too.

A lot of pressure on Goddard to get limited possessions but dispose very effectively.

[RunningMild]

Ablett scored 203 in SC, which becomes 406 if he's Captain. Unbelievable.

[NiB]

Still got Judd Gibbs and Goddard to play sittin on abot 1800 thanks to Abletts 406 as captain. Just a shame that Goodes was useless otherwise I could have a huge score this week

[Cerebral]

In order to win I need Gibbs, Carrazzo, Yarran, and Dal Santo to outscore Goddard by 200.

>_> doable.

[IRS]

Half way through the 1st quarter Waite has 59 DT points.


Feeling good about not trading him when he was dropped!

[Cerebral]

Lost by 20 points because Carrazzo wrecked the shit out of Dal Santo.

[IRS]

Barlow late withdrawal. FML

So long eliminator.

[texta]

At least everyone has Barlow, so it's not a point's loss.

It's going to be good to back on the winner's list this week. I have Ziebell, Pavlich and Ballantyne still to play (with a couple of others that we've both got) and I'm 11 points behind. So unless there's some massive three way collision in the next few moments, I'm chalking that up.

Looking like I might get a win in my other league against the only undefeated player in that comp too. He appears to have messed up pretty badly with Silvagni and Barlow, but no playing midfield or defensive emergencies.

The equation is that I have Ziebell and Ballantyne against Bastinac and Harvey and I've currently got a lead of 137.


In the Hyper Supercoach game I am 600 points ahead (2050 to 1450) but I have 4 players in this game to his 8 and I can't really be bothered working out how it's going to go.

[IRS]

At least everyone has Barlow, so it's not a point's loss.


It is when I don't have cover and he has Bastinac

[Cerebral]

My cover was Trengove :(

[texta]

My cover was Gary Rohan (45), but my hyper opponent's cover is Tom Scully (0) and in Supercoach I've got Dustin Martin (83) on the bench against Lewis Jetta (55). So the no Barlow thing has worked out excellent for me.

[RunningMild]

How the hell did Ryan O'Keefe go from $600,000 to $385,700 in six rounds? Is he injured like Brown?

[texta]

Cruising to victories in all my leagues. Just Dane Swan left and looking good for maybe 2100 in DT and 2200 in SC.

In the crucial points comparison against my moron gf's sister's bf, I have nudged ahead and it now comes down to Swan outscoring Matthew Boyd. Too close to call.

[IRS]

lol won both my games 2151 vs 2147 and 2151 vs 2147

[IRS]

Nevermind. It was a glitch in the site. I got smashed by 40 points : (

[IRS]

What a high scoring week

[texta]

Not for me. :(

I didn't really look at either team and had a huge number not play.

EDIT: Checked games. Cannot believe I got a win. I had three 0's and no scoring subs. Pretty stoked!

EDIT2: Might have just got up in Supercoach. It's a bit hard to tell since they mess around with it but at the moment I'm down 2077 to 2205. But it's got the Melbourne and Collingwood players on 0. I have Swan and Trengrove and my opponent has Shaw. According to fanfooty I should pick up 174 and 80 points, while he'll pick up 71. So I think that means I win. Pretty good given I've got non covered 0's in this team.

[ireadtabloids]

What a high scoring week

Yeah! Even I got 2200! Unbelievable.

[texta]

I was pretty happy with my 1900 and three players missing. In other news I appear to have just given myself two Dustin Martin's in SC. Now to just repeat the procedure a few times with G Ablett.

[IRS]

So I finished top of hyper's league again. Now watch me bomb out in straight sets again.

[IRS]

So far my plan is working perfectly

[Super Mario]

Yer you beat me in DreamTeam.

chett's Allstars and me in the Supercoach GF; this should be a pushover...

[Super Mario]

http://supercoach.heraldsun.com.au/global_2010/heraldSun/afl/certificate/SuperCoachCert_A4_01.jpg

[ireadtabloids]

It was a little bit frustrating to watch Dale Thomas win the DreamTeam.
I vow we kick him out of next years competition ;)