Oh Good, A 3D DS.

[aubergine]

To be announced at E3 apparently, new DS hardware with 3D capabilities. (http://kotaku.com/5499697/nintendo-announces-new-hardware-the-nintendo-3ds)

[Hyperblau]

But its not april fools yet...

[AranchineD]

Sounds like they're just putting in motion controls.


Which is just as shit, but whatever.

[FrozenSoul80]

Real or not, it sounds shit. I hate "3D".

[Silverwolf]

Real or not, it sounds shit. I hate "3D".

Completely agreed, I have no idea why its suddenly such a fad.

[AranchineD]

Because of the millions of f*****s who went to see Avatar.

[Stevorooni]

If it's real, and is a proper upgrade and not just a regular DS with 3D capabilities (which would look awful with DS quality graphics) then consider me intrigued.

[Nic Xtreme]

The wording in the PDF it is leaked from suggests it Us the successor to the current DS console. Combine that with the rumours that were already circulating, and things hopefully point to an upgraded console (woooo GCN graphics pls!)

[Cerebral]

There was a rumour around before that Nintendo had a contract with nVidia to use either the Tegra or the Tegra 2 chip in a new handheld console.

For reference, the Tegra 2 chip is capable of running the Unreal 3 engine with reasonable detail (there's an FPS demo somewhere on youtube).

[Vindik8or]

I don't think these iterative versions of the DS are doing anyone any favours. Developers are unlikely to make something for the latest version when they can aim for the lowest common denominator on current hardware and access the widest audience. Users have got to be getting leery about these constant updates, and less inclined each time to upgrade. For all these reasons, and more, Nintendo should either have a proper go at making a new handheld or just let the current models come into their own.

[Zeph101]

If it's real, and is a proper upgrade and not just a regular DS with 3D capabilities (which would look awful with DS quality graphics) then consider me intrigued.

I glimpsed at a Kotaku post about a press report stating the DS successor would have some new screen technology, the now revealed 3D we would assume, and boast the same technilogical abilities as the Gamecube. I wouldn't really count on it meaning that much anyway though. The DS itself is fully capable of replicating N64 quality graphics and how many games have we seen do that?

[JubeiSaotome]

SD games in 3D. Woo.

[Natrak]

Hypothetically release a more powerful DS with a better touch-screen and 3D? I'd have no problems with that. I don't understand 'hating' 3D, I don't think it has a place on home consoles yet, but on a new handheld? I have no problem with that.

Thinking you're super awesome because you hate 3D because of that gayass Avatar movie that's so popular is pretty pathetic.

I don't understand disliking 3D to any point beyond indifference unless it gives you headaches or the 3D being talked about would require glasses.

[AranchineD]

^Avatar lover

[tau]

I'm intrigued by the 3D without external peripherals. Personally I can't wait!

[FrozenSoul80]

I don't understand disliking 3D to any point beyond indifference unless it gives you headaches or the 3D being talked about would require glasses.

I've never liked "3D", mainly because it's a gimmick and I'd much rather we just waited for proper holograms that are projected out in a real 3D space.

[tau]

Oh yeah, cos holograms aren't gimmicky at all. They're both as gimmicky as eachother. He's right, stop hating just for the sake of hating.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Yeah, if anyone was going to do 3D well in a mass-consumer product, I put my money on Nintendo.

AND BEFORE YOU SAY IT, THEY LEARNED A VALUABLE LESSON FROM THE VIRTUAL BOY!

[AranchineD]

Yes, if you're going to hate on 3D, at LEAST mention that it can (at the moment( only bring one 'object' into focus at a time, making any other 'objects' and the environment pointless for developers to design well because no-one will even see it

[aubergine]

3D doesn't add any new dimension to games or movies. It's neat, but if it doesn't result in a gameplay innovation, then what the hell is it?

Also, I liked the iterative idea with the GBA, but this goes beyond changing form factor, they are adding features that developers are expected to adopt, and I doubt they are. Has the DSi camera been taken up sufficiently by developers to justify it, or is it the new e-reader?

New features like this should be saved for a whole new thing.

[Natrak]

Isn't that the idea, though? That this will actually be a DS successor rather than NEW AND IMPROVED DSi WITH 3D!

I guess we'll know more on the road to E3.

[Stevorooni]

I just see 3D enhancing games the same way that bumping up the resolution or increasing the polygon count would, it wouldn't change the way we play games it would just make them look better.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I like the fact that Nintendo are making so much money that they can try stuff like this, and I hope the do something crazy for their next home console.

Like 720p.

[aubergine]

Good Digital Foundry article on Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-intheory-nintendo3ds-blog-entry) about what the 3DS likely involves.

[naclj]

yeah i dont think for a second that the 3DS will be 3D in the same sense as TV's and Movies.
the screens are too small for that effect to work and as far as im aware we are still years away form decent no glasses 3D.

the DSi 3D hidden picture (which looks quite cool imo) is what most people are thinking they mean by 3D.
i don't see how that will benefit most games.
But i may be surprised, i mean when i first saw the Wii i thought of all the possibilities and i was wrong so maybe with this and not seeing any possibilities i will also be wrong and it will turn out to be awesome

[aubergine]

Added link above.

[Stevorooni]

Exclusive image from Super Mario 3D Disclaimer: Not an exclusive image from Super Mario 3D

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1054/mario3d.gif

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Added link above.

oh good AFTER I TRACKED IT DOWN MYSELF!

[aubergine]

I can't create links from my phone unfortunately.

[Stevorooni]

I bet you could on a 3DS so maybe you should buy one

[SOX]

When* and how much? Anything more than $300 can **** right off.





*Cyclo3DS

[AyatollaofRocknRolla]

3DS huh? hmm. 3DSiXll anyone? It seems a rather odd way to annouce a new handheld. Why didn't they just wait till E3 and actually show us something?

[Saxby]

My DS has currently evolved into toilet entertainment. The console has lost its spark for me, much like the Wii. I wonder if I could fit that into the bathroom too?

[McChimp]

It'll be interesting to see exactly what kind of specs the '3DS' will have and exactly what it'll be able to do. That said, I don't honestly see the point of releasing the DSi, then the XL, then getting this one out there all within the span of, what, 2 years? Would hardly make much sense to buy an XL right now if it's lifespan before 3DS comes out is anywhere from 6-12 months.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

3DS huh? hmm. 3DSiXll anyone? It seems a rather odd way to annouce a new handheld. Why didn't they just wait till E3 and actually show us something?

They have to give Sony some time to throw something together.

[aubergine]

My DS has currently evolved into toilet entertainment. The console has lost its spark for me, much like the Wii. I wonder if I could fit that into the bathroom too?

Do you meant that you aim for it in the bowl?

[McChimp]

That'd be the Wii (no pun intended). Once you've played the handful of decent games on there, there's really no point keeping it around. Flush it like that dead goldfish your parents sent on that one way trip when you were a child!

[REQUIEM]

I don't think these iterative versions of the DS are doing anyone any favours. Developers are unlikely to make something for the latest version when they can aim for the lowest common denominator on current hardware and access the widest audience. Users have got to be getting leery about these constant updates, and less inclined each time to upgrade. For all these reasons, and more, Nintendo should either have a proper go at making a new handheld or just let the current models come into their own.

Exactly.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

They have to give Sony some time to throw something together.
http://i44.tinypic.com/dwzvxt.jpg

[Jay]

My DS has currently evolved into toilet entertainment. The console has lost its spark for me, much like the Wii. I wonder if I could fit that into the bathroom too?

I'm sure it wouldn't be the first time you'd waggled in the bathroom. :p

[Saxby]

Oh snap

[Ad-Rock]

Nintendo Returns to 3D Gaming (http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/games/nintendo-returns-to-3d-gaming-20100324-qutw.html)

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

Secretly looking forward to this

[Cobla]

Yes, if you're going to hate on 3D, at LEAST mention that it can (at the moment( only bring one 'object' into focus at a time, making any other 'objects' and the environment pointless for developers to design well because no-one will even see itNah that's just the way that Cameron did Avatar, and a lot of other directors do 3D this way too as it allows them to direct the audience focus, just like they might in a conventional 2D shot.

If you see a 3D IMAX movie the backgrounds will remain in focus throughout, allowing your eyes to look at whatever you want, not just the thing that the film-maker wanted you to look at.

[AranchineD]

It's a Nintendo DS

[Cobla]

But the thing you're talking about, essentially a depth of field blurring effect, would actually require more processing power than if the entire shot stays in focus.

Anyway it looks like there's growing evidence that the 3DS will use parallax barrier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallax_barrier) tech to separate the two signals.

This is great news IMO as most people find parallax barrier 3D fairly natural to look at, and it provides a real depth effect, as opposed to the iPhone-like 3D lite that would require you to tilt the console, which of course is an inferior effect and not really what people think of when they think "3D".

[AranchineD]

I'm not talking about a blurring effect articifically put in by the film makers, I'm talking about what the human eye just plain does when it's looking at the '3D' we have now

[Vindik8or]

So which disgraced company head are Nintendo looking to rubbish with this handheld? Last time it was Gunpei Yokoi.

[ireadtabloids]

So an actual 3D affect with improved graphics as a starting point for a new console? I'm actually quite interested. Especially seeing as they are definitely improving the wi-fi card and making some effort to incorporate some kind of analogue control :D

What's Sony planning I wonder?

[Cobla]

I'm not talking about a blurring effect articifically put in by the film makers, I'm talking about what the human eye just plain does when it's looking at the '3D' we have nowBut you can only focus on one thing at a time IRL too. So you're talking about a limitation of human biology (?) not the 3D tech that's currently going around.

To be clear, if you're looking at a 3D image (e.g from Avatar) and you cannot focus on the background, that is something the filmaker has done on purpose and not a limitation of the technology.

[Vindik8or]

No, it's a limitation of optical physics. Lenses can only focus on a specific point in space, which in practice becomes a field of space. Computer graphics actually have to spend extra processing power mimicking this. When you're looking at a '3D' image, you're actually focussing on a single point (the display surface) and you're forced into either the focal point of the lens that created the original image or full depth of field focus since it's an optical illusion, not actually three-dimensionally embedded images, both of which are unnatural and disconcerting to the eye.

[Cobla]

Yes but if the lens is 'focus free' then it won't be focussing on anything in particular and this is desirable for 3D images and video because the viewer can choose what they want to focus on.The lenses have a fixed focal length and are focus free. 3D images are best when taken with focus free lenses because both near and far objects should always appear to be in focus for optimal 3D effects.The above is from the product description of a stereoscopic camera on Amazon.

[Vindik8or]

No the viewer can't choose what to focus on. For there to be a 3D effect you have to focus on the display surface.

[Cobla]

Actually the way the effect is achieved is by tricking the viewers brain into focussing on something at a depth at which it is not.

So if the 3D image has an object very close to the viewer they are being tricked into the object only resolving (ie. convergence) at a very short focal length. ie. much closer than the flat plane on which it actually resides. That's how it works.

If they are focussing merely on a flat plane then the image should also appear flat.

[Vindik8or]

Actually you're wrong.

[Lex]

...so explain why?

[Vindik8or]

I already have. But here it is again, but simpler:

-3D displays aren't actually creating 3D images, just the illusion.

-There is nothing in regions in front of or behind the 3D image for you to focus on, only the surface itself.

-If you shift your focus away from this surface, no matter the system, the entire 3D image will go out of focus.

-Hence, thus, and ipso facto you are bound to the focus of the original lens the image was made through (or the universal focus of a computer generated image with no artificial focal length or depth-of-field).

You cannot adjust your focus through a 3D image because there is nothing there. It is all an optical illusion which tricks your eye into perceiving 3D space in a 2D image.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Or is it?

[Cobla]

So what you're saying is that when you go to see a 3D movie your focus does not change throughout?

That makes me think you've never actually seen one! :rolleyes:

Try this if you still don't believe me:

Look at the foreground of a 3D image. Notice how the background is out of focus? Now look at the background. WOW the foreground just went double!

It's seriously a pretty simple concept and you are the one who is wrong.

If you STILL don't believe me then at least believe my boss, an optometrist, who ASSURES me I have it right.

[Cobla]

I already have. But here it is again, but simpler:

-3D displays aren't actually creating 3D images, just the illusion.And how do they create this illusion of depth if not by binocular focus techniques. ie. what is it about the image that suggests to your brain that it is in a real space instead of on a flat screen?

Answer: Your eyes cannot focus on the object at the depth of the screen. To do so would be to see double. Instead the eyes naturally try and converge the two images, and the only way to do this is to focus at a depth where it appears to be.

Again, that's how it actually works.

It's obvious you think you're the smartest person here ("I already have. But here it is again, but simpler:") but you have not accounted for how the 3D effect is achieved, only how the eyes focus on a 2D plane. This is not the same as stereoscopic 3D and I'm not sure you even know what that is.

[Stevorooni]

Yomiuri Shimbun, Japan's largest paper, reported on some possible 3D technology for the system. The paper says "it is believed" that the system will make use of a Sharp 3D LCD panel. The system will have a film attached to the screen, separated form the screen by a tiny space. This setup makes the image look slightly different for the two eyes, giving the game visuals a 3D look.


Source (http://au.ds.ign.com/articles/107/1079262p1.html)

Sounds neato, better than the rumour of it tracking your head with cameras to change the image.

[Australian Ninja]

"Regarding 3D, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata has previously stated that Nintendo would need to look into the "possible health effects" of playing video games in 3D for prolonged periods of time."

Ah, hinting at their new "Just Imagine 3D Headaches" title they've been toiling away on, and the sequel
"Just Imagine Virtual Headaches"

[Ninjalada]

Jesus ****ing christ, more usless 3D bullshit.

[Vindik8or]

So what you're saying is that when you go to see a 3D movie your focus does not change throughout?

That makes me think you've never actually seen one! :rolleyes:

Try this if you still don't believe me:

Look at the foreground of a 3D image. Notice how the background is out of focus? Now look at the background. WOW the foreground just went double!

It's seriously a pretty simple concept and you are the one who is wrong.

If you STILL don't believe me then at least believe my boss, an optometrist, who ASSURES me I have it right.
You can't goddamn do that. Learn some optics for yourself, and don't rely on the crutch of your fictional boss. There is nothing 'there' to focus on, it's an even simpler concept to grasp, which makes me think you've never even had eyes huuurrrr

And how do they create this illusion of depth if not by binocular focus techniques. ie. what is it about the image that suggests to your brain that it is in a real space instead of on a flat screen?

Answer: Your eyes cannot focus on the object at the depth of the screen. To do so would be to see double. Instead the eyes naturally try and converge the two images, and the only way to do this is to focus at a depth where it appears to be.

Again, that's how it actually works.

It's obvious you think you're the smartest person here ("I already have. But here it is again, but simpler:") but you have not accounted for how the 3D effect is achieved, only how the eyes focus on a 2D plane. This is not the same as stereoscopic 3D and I'm not sure you even know what that is.

It's not created with 'focus' techniques, it's created with perspective and frame switching techniques. The perspective of a scene for each individual eye is created, and then in a number of ways particular to each method each eye is tricked into seeing only the image made for it. Your brain then interprets the separate 2D images as 3D information.

For the third retarded time, your physical focus must be on the source of the image or nothing is in focus! Like, really it can't be, I just can't comprehend how thick you can be on this - no 3D system causes light to generate and propagate from the actual 3D point it's 'supposed' to be in, that would be a hologram, plus you'd need a projection space of equal size to the scene that was filmed (or at least that would recede into the point of infinite focus).

To physically focus on something, something must physically be there. In lieu of that with 3D illusion techniques, you are bound to the focal point of the source.

[aubergine]

Let's just agree: they use magic and fairy dust.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I'm glad I'm not smart enough to get into these arguments.

[Stevorooni]

You can only see the point they're making if you're wearing 3D glasses

[aubergine]

I find if you relax your eyes and focus in the distance, the point magically appears.

[Stevorooni]

I can never do those stupid things, I hope it's not a requirement of the 3DS

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

http://i.imgur.com/NljBQ.gif

**** I love the internet sometimes.

[Bokracroc]

http://i.imgur.com/NljBQ.gif

**** I love the internet sometimes.

Money in 3D

[ireadtabloids]

http://i.imgur.com/NljBQ.gif

**** I love the internet sometimes.

Brilliant! Funniest thing I've seen on the forums so far this year.
PM me a link to the original, please!

Edit: Am quite enjoying the effect of multiple, perhaps cloned, greedy Iwata's and Miyamoto's on my screen

[Knuckle Children]

Keep the posts on topic please. This thread is for arguing over how 3D works.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

PM me a link to the original, please!

I don't have one.

[aubergine]

So who's keen to buy a DSiXL?

And... What were they thinking when they announced a NEW new console to make their new console redundant?

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I'll be waiting for the 3DSi+, myself.

[Jay]

You forgot the XL there, Blake.

[Natrak]

I daresay they were thinking the majority of the people who'll buy the DSiXL won't have a clue about the 3DS on the way.

[aubergine]

UNtil Keiren Perkins does the ads for it.

[JubeiSaotome]

I'll be waiting for the 3DSi+, myself.

Waiting for the DSI Miami myself.

[Australian Ninja]

So who's keen to buy a DSiXL?

And... What were they thinking when they announced a NEW new console to make their new console redundant?

Only bought a DSi last year, but would like one with a bigger screen. If for no other reason than it will make in game text a lot easier to read, also less will be more comfortable for my large hands. Chrono Trigger in particular on the DS / DSi is terrible. Would it have killed them to increase the text size a point or two. I just don't play that game, but will with the new DS with larger screens. But I will wait until I see some proper specs for the 3D DS whatever-it-is - to see if it's backwards compatible. Are there any pics/ mock ups, or is it still just in the planning stages?

[AranchineD]

Waiting for the DSI Miami myself.

This looks like an open and shut case YEAH etc.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

WkgMUk_5p2A

[aubergine]

The 3DS was claimed to be backwards compat with all DS DSi games.

[tau]

You guys know this was just a lame april fools joke yea?

[ireadtabloids]

I like that, Blake!

Hang on, you mean the cardboard DS isn't real? Oh well... Back to playing with my paper version...

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Apparently it will be using this (http://www.lutanho.net/play/magiceyetetris.html) technology.

[RunningMild]

What's Sony planning I wonder?

PSP Phone, apparently.

That's right, Nintendo are re-launching the Virtual Boy and Sony are re-launching the N-Gage, aka the two worst handhelds of all time. God help us. :rolleyes:

[SOX]

I would buy Virtual Boy games on the 3DS if Nintendo put them in the store. Just sayin'

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I totally would too.

[Paulinho]

What's one thing you would like to see in this handheld that we aren't used to seeing from Nintendo in their handhelds? Or any general Nintendo philosophies?

Must be pretty short odds on a Mario Galaxy 3DS.

[aubergine]

All I want to see is a reasonable price instead of an Apple one.

[RunningMild]

What's one thing you would like to see in this handheld that we aren't used to seeing from Nintendo in their handhelds? Or any general Nintendo philosophies?

Must be pretty short odds on a Mario Galaxy 3DS.

How about space between hardware release dates? Once a year is just moronic.

Also, improved online would be nice. Nothing major, just streamlining and improving the stuff they already have on the DS. On that note, out-of-the-box compatibility with wireless routers that were released in the past decade would be nice. :rolleyes:

[aubergine]

If the 3D effect really works for depth, a port of F-Zero GX would be all the platform needs I expect.

[McChimp]

How about space between hardware release dates? Once a year is just moronic.

I'm finding it damn-near impossible to be able to recommend XL's for people due to the ridiculous closeness of the DSi's release to the XL's. And the fact that; a)the DSi is the same, except for smaller, plus it's CHEAPER (Game's selling them for $216 as a Mother's Day deal), and; b)there's a new DS around the corner, arriving anywhere from the next couple of months through to next March (or so they've said).

I mean, seriously. You'd think Nintendo would be wanting to make as much as possible from the DSi in the time it has left, yet this 'yearly iteration' ( and not even that with the two DSi models) crap just seems counter-productive.

[tau]

I mean, seriously. You'd think Nintendo would be wanting to make as much as possible from the DSi in the time it has left, yet this 'yearly iteration' ( and not even that with the two DSi models) crap just seems counter-productive.

It's not setting out to be a new iteration. It's setting out to dominate the older non-game market even more while still having the smaller DSi for everyone else who doesn't actually want a bigger handheld.

[ireadtabloids]

If the 3D effect really works for depth, a port of F-Zero GX would be all the platform needs I expect.

That would be nice.

[Stevorooni]

We all know we'll end up with Yoshi's 3D Knitting Experience or something

[tau]

You guys know this was just a lame april fools joke yea?

????/

[ireadtabloids]

We all know we'll end up with Yoshi's 3D Knitting Experience or something
Actually, that would take me by surprise and to be honest I might even buy it.
"Hey, I've always been looking for an excuse to learn how to make a Yoshi crochet bobble hat!"

[ireadtabloids]

????/

http://www.nintendo.com/search
By George, he's right! :p
Seriously! Type in 3ds!

[Lazlow]

In fact, we have no plans to release another handheld video game console for another couple of years.

Is this also an April Fool's?

[VanAce]

http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/news/22342/

you will be able to switch the 3d off and Nintendo may actually be serious about anti-piracy measures now

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

actually be serious about anti-piracy measures now

"No SD slot!"

[aubergine]

The anti-piracy measures of the psp go are very effective: release a handheld no one wants to sell, no one wants to buy and that doesn't actually play games and you're theft concerns are over!

[Lazlow]

Except the PSP is a fantastic device with plenty of great games.

[aubergine]

You have a psp go?

I think the size of the shop displays for PSP games is a fair indication of how it's doing - even worse than PC by my measuring tape. The PSP Go has no shelf space whatsoever.

[RunningMild]

Except the PSP is a fantastic device with plenty of great games.

That's right, the PSP is.

But the PSP Go sucks balls. :p

[AranchineD]

Nintendo may actually be serious about anti-piracy measures now

Even more reason for me not to buy it!

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Nintendo needs to make better games if they expect me to buy them!

[Nic Xtreme]

That's right, the PSP is.

But the PSP Go sucks balls. :p

No, the PSP is a shitty battery-raping, fragile device with a fantastic screen and fantastic games.

[RunningMild]

I think the size of the shop displays for PSP games is a fair indication of how it's doing - even worse than PC by my measuring tape.

It was doing pretty well for a while, and then the Go ****ed everything up. I can't believe how badly Sony sabotaged their own console. :confused:

No, the PSP is a shitty battery-raping, fragile device with a fantastic screen and fantastic games.

Do you frisbee it around or something? My PSP has never broken in any way whatsoever. :p

I am referring to the 2000 model though, which is way more solid than the original one.

[Nic Xtreme]

Do you frisbee it around or something? My PSP has never broken in any way whatsoever. :p.

Haha, not quite! It just feels like it needs to be cradled like a small retarded child and could break with the slightest tap on the screen. Mine works fine EXCEPT FOR THE BATTERY LIFE WHICH IS SHORTER THAN THE DICK OF AN OBESE ASIAN :(

[BB2K]

I though Sumo Wrestlers were known for their large penises?

[Lazlow]

I've got one of the original variants, dropped it a few times and it still works flawlessly.

[aubergine]

I've got one of the original variants, dropped it a few times and it still works flawlessly.

Enough with the short / long obese Asian sumo-cock discussion!

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Possible dev system. (http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2010/05/18/nintendo-3ds-insides-leaked-shows-1-analog-stick-1-3d-screen-1-touchscreen.htm)

[Australian Ninja]

Hooray, still no real information on the 3D DS. Current plan is to wait 6 months or so and pick up an XL for less than the current price.

[Xanafalgue]

Man, I can't wait to see this. E3 feels so far away :(

[Stevorooni]

Woohoo we should find out about this in the early hours of the morning!!

I love new Nintendo hardware, I know I will probably end up dissapointed by mostly everything except the Mario and Zelda games, but it's fun!

Early night tonight

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

omg ABAHB for the 3DS!

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Have to say I'm really unimpressed with the design.

Mostly because I can see a 3DS+ in the not too distant future.

Not having screens be the same size, both 3D and both touchscreen is... well that's some Apple shit right there.

[Nic Xtreme]

Holy shit, judging by the screenshots, Animal Crossing is not a total rehash, it's a completely new game (except for furniture, it seems).

Paper Mario seems to be a brand new game, too! A search on Wikipedia reveals that there hasn't been a Chain Chomp sidekick before.

aaaaaaaaand Pilotwings Resort looks awesome, and is set on Wuhu Island! The plane looks the same as Wii Sports Resort, and the Jetpack looks like is uses your Mii.

[Stevorooni]

Looks fantastic, I'd like to see the 3D effect for real though but I guess that's hard to capture with photographs and video cameras

[tau]

Kinda thought the 3DS "3D" promo videos were kinda retarded tbh

[Cicada]

Holy shit, judging by the screenshots, Animal Crossing is not a total rehash, it's a completely new game (except for furniture, it seems).

Paper Mario seems to be a brand new game, too! A search on Wikipedia reveals that there hasn't been a Chain Chomp sidekick before.

aaaaaaaaand Pilotwings Resort looks awesome, and is set on Wuhu Island! The plane looks the same as Wii Sports Resort, and the Jetpack looks like is uses your Mii.

Totally psyched for Pilotwings. My first game on 64 as a kid because the store sold me the empty box for Diddy Kong Racing without the cartridge, so I got given Pilotwings as a courtesy.

If you're talking about rehashes however, Ocarina of Time and Star Fox 64 seem to be getting the 3DS treatment. (http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9033963)

[tau]

http://i50.tinypic.com/207ugcw.jpg

I just came with the force of a thousand suns.

Lylat Wars was one of my favourite games ever, and still a favourite way of mine to burn an hour. A portable 3D remake of this would... oh my god, **** you nintendo. Thanks a lot for making games I actually want, making me require your hardware!

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Excellent use of the touch screen!

[Vicious]

Excellent use of the touch screen!

Hey, it's better than they forcing use of something it's not good at. Could you imagine having to draw circles on it to do a barrel roll or some crap?

I rather it not be used than used for something it doesn't do well.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I'm just throwing Nintendo's words back at them.

[Stevorooni]

If you're talking about rehashes however, Ocarina of Time and Star Fox 64 seem to be getting the 3DS treatment. (http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9033963)

Looking at the screenshots it doesn't look much better than the N64 version

I thought this thing was meant to have the power of a gamecube!

(I'll probably still buy it >_>)

[SOX]

Not really sold on the aesthetics of the 3DS but considering I bought the original DS it will still be a massive upgrade. Any numbers being thrown around for price?

[SOX]

Better question - what would you guys be willing to part with for one of these? Me, I'd probably say $300 max.

[tau]

wait... was there a release date?

[SOX]

Do you need one to answer the question?

[tau]

no, but i sorta really want a 3DS right now.

[Clockw0rk]

Looks good, but I'll wait 18 months for the revised model.

[Stevorooni]

Mario Kart on the 3DS (http://kotaku.com/5564539/mario-kart-takes-a-spin-on-the-3ds/gallery/)

Better question - what would you guys be willing to part with for one of these? Me, I'd probably say $300 max.

Probably $300. There's bound to be a game at launch that I want so I'll probably buy at launch, then update to the later model when they release that

[SOX]

I honestly thought the graphics of the 3DS would be up with the GCN. Disappointing they look closer to where the PSP has been at for years..

[Stevorooni]

The low screen resolution probably adds to that effect though

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Did they mention whether they'd up'd the screen res at all?

[Stevorooni]

A lot of things like OOT are just tech demos anyway (http://kotaku.com/5564576/live-from-nintendos-e3-briefing)

[Jay]

A lot of things like OOT are just tech demos anyway (http://kotaku.com/5564576/live-from-nintendos-e3-briefing)

But it might be real...it might be real Stevo!

(not quite sure why Zelda and Mario turn me into a dribbling fanboy, but whatever...)

[SOX]

A lot of things like OOT are just tech demos anyway (http://kotaku.com/5564576/live-from-nintendos-e3-briefing)

OOT to be released on 3DS (http://e3.gamespot.com/story/6265862/legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-coming-to-3ds)

[Lazlow]

I'm in two minds about this;

- on one hand, Nintendo can go f*** a goat, with their constant hardware revisions

- on the other hand, this is actually a legitimate upgrade from the DS.

It's Apple syndrome; do you adopt immediately to have the latest tech, or play is safe and wait 6 months for the inevitable revised version.

I should really be looking to my existing DS use... which is miminal.

[Zeph101]

I wouldn't trust nintendo of America to claim that it's happening, I'll wait for an anouncment from the Japanese before I believe it's anything more than a demo.
This http://kotaku.com/5564576/live-from-nintendos-e3-briefing may suggest the developed demos are more for nintendo's benefit to get a feel on how 3D can affect the way they develop games. What better a way to test than seeing how it works for games they made in their polygon prime? Of course, could be wrong ... hope I'm wrong.

[buckstwits]

Did they mention whether they'd up'd the screen res at all?

From e3.nintendo.com:

Top Screen: 3.53-inch widescreen LCD display, enabling 3D view without the need for special glasses; with 800x240 pixel resolution (400 pixels are allocated for each eye to enable 3D viewing).
Touch Screen: 3.02-inch LCD with 320x240 pixel resolution with a touch screen.

[Xanafalgue]

The DS aesthetics are beginning to age, IMO, and they could have made the screens a little bigger. Hell, they could have just thrown an upgraded Wii chipset in there and gone the full hog, the Wii hardware probably costs $20 to manufacture as it is.

That said, I'm very excited and I'm pleased to hear its backward compatible. I'm not sold on 3D w/glasses but I'm on board the 3DS hype train. I will bite day 1 if it is under $300.

[Xanafalgue]

Oh and how long until Apple makes a 3D iPhone... :rolleyes:

[Stevorooni]

I'd essentially be getting a double upgrade out of this, I'm still on the lite and never bothered with the DSi so I get all those upgrades too.

It looks pretty large from the hands on, is it about the size of the DSi?

It looks like the bottom screen is the size of the current DS Lite

[Lazlow]

The bottom screen is a tenth of an inch smaller (or 2mm) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_3DS#3DS_vs._DS_Lite) :D

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

From e3.nintendo.com:

Is that... better?

[Stevorooni]

According to wikipedia, DS screen resolution is 256x192, so the 3DS will be betterer!

[Australian Ninja]

If Nintendo continues with their fetish for shrinking buttons on handhelds (GB > GBA > DS) the 3D DS should have buttons the size of tiny tiny pin holes.

Thank Ninty for bigger screens and ridiculously small buttons. Why not just Vulcan mind-meld the ABXY buttons into a single button, you can already mash them all at once with your thumb, it would just simplify things.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Ohhh but I like retina!

[AyatollaofRocknRolla]

http://kotaku.com/5564204/hands+on-with-seven-nintendo-3ds-games-and-gadgets?skyline=true&s=i

some interesting hands on impressions with the 3DS. Sounds impressive.


Ubisoft are bringing Assassins Creed Lost Legacy, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, Driver Renegade, Hollywood 61 and Battle of Giants for Launch. Nice! Add to Nintys own offerings : Pilot wings, Kid Icarus, Star Fox, OOT, Paper Mario, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing and 3DS is looking to be full of win!

**Edit** 3DS Dead Or Alive. 3D boobs anyone? Street Fighter, Ridge Racer, Samurai Warriors, Metal Gear

There's no shortage of support for the 3DS!

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Interesting that they say the girls hands feel like they're coming out of the screen when they took the photo. Assume that means they can do that for games. There seemed to be some contention before release whether glassless 3D could do that effect.

[Stevorooni]

Did I hear correctly that Saint's Row is also coming to the 3DS?

[Lazlow]

Didn't people used to criticise the PSP because its library was full of ports? (ie the Playstation PORTable) >_>

[Stevorooni]

I would think that Saint's Row would be a scaled down adaption, a sequel or spinoff (undoubtedly set in the same city though). Doing a straight port would be harder because you'd be putting a 360 game onto something supposedly at Gamecube power.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Didn't people used to criticise the PSP because its library was full of ports? (ie the Playstation PORTable) >_>

Nope!

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/Emoticons/ShadyEyes.gif

[Lazlow]

I would think that Saint's Row would be a scaled down adaption, a sequel or spinoff (undoubtedly set in the same city though). Doing a straight port would be harder because you'd be putting a 360 game onto something supposedly at Gamecube power.

Much like Liberty/Vice City Stories. ;)

But I'm not only referring to Saints Row.

[AranchineD]

Yoiu see, the difference is the 3DS has games other than ports

[Lazlow]

kinda like how the PSP has games other than ports too!

[Stevorooni]

Street Fighter IV on the 3DS (http://kotaku.com/5564648/street-fighter-iv-punching-above-its-weight-on-the-3ds/gallery/4)

Sure hope that analogue thing works well with it, because that dpad placement is just awkward

[AranchineD]

kinda like how the PSP has games other than ports too!

Haha, good one!

[Stevorooni]

Oh come on, there's...

...


Sonic Rivals


and...


Daxter


and that's just off the top of my head!

[Lazlow]

DJ Max Portable
Pursuit Force
Dissidia
Resistence: Retribution
Killzone: Liberation
Patapon
LocoRoco
Lumines
SWAT: Target Liberty

That's off the top of my head... dammit you made me go all Creedy.

Point stands though, they're planning on launching the 3DS with a slew of remakes and ports. But then again, people have pretty much been apologising for Nintendo for the last 5 years.

[tau]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2lNfSPqIj0

sorta related - video about a program that lets you sculpt in 3d space. See how they show you what it would be like to use it? That's what I was really hoping nintendo were going to do :(

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

DJ Max Portable
Pursuit Force
Dissidia
Resistence: Retribution
Killzone: Liberation
Patapon
LocoRoco
Lumines
SWAT: Target Liberty

That's off the top of my head... dammit you made me go all Creedy.

Point stands though, they're planning on launching the 3DS with a slew of remakes and ports. But then again, people have pretty much been apologising for Nintendo for the last 5 years.

Take your h8 walking buddy!

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

http://www.explicitgamer.com/article/nintendo-3ds-the-complete-games-list

Looking forward to:

ABAHB
RE:R
SSF4:3D
Paper Mario
Mario Kart
and Frogger.

[Stevorooni]

That's off the top of my head... dammit you made me go all Creedy.


haha I was just basing mine on what games I own on PSP, I have more but I couldn't be bothered walking to the shelf.

Ports aren't that bad, I'm currently playing the Megadrive collection on PSP and reliving Sonic while I ride the train.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

You idiot!

When you relive Sonic he relives you.

[FrozenSoul80]

Is it wrong to be really excited about the Lylat Wars and OoT remakes? I feel kinda dirty.

[Zeph101]

Is it wrong to be really excited about the Lylat Wars and OoT remakes? I feel kinda dirty.

Lylat Wars= not at all.

OoT= damn ninty fanboy.

[FrozenSoul80]

If it helps I haven't touched OoT since I finished it 8-9 years ago and I feel Wind Waker was infinitely better >_>

[tau]

IGN: I think one of the big surprises at the show was the 3DS. We knew the new Wii Zelda was happening -- you showed some artwork for it last year. But the 3DS showing Ocarina of Time 3D, that was a big surprise. I think it excited people. I was wondering if you could talk about some of the ideas you have. Not just adding depth, but some of the gameplay elements we might see. Will it be a direct port, or an enhanced game?

Aonuma: We've talked about remixing Ocarina of Time for a long time, saying "should we remake Ocarina of Time for Wii?" And, to be honest, I said no. I didn't want to just re-release it on a different platform -- I wanted to have a specific reason to remake Ocarina of Time. I didn't want to just make a port. And so I was waiting for something to come along that would not only help us to retell the story, but improve upon it. Making it different, more unique in its own way. Now, with 3D, we're able to take the environments of Hyrule and add depth -- giving them a more expansive feeling, a more immersive feeling. In addition to that, now that we have the 3D we can looking forward to new ways to implement 3D into the gameplay and make it fresh and new. And we also have the motion sensors that are built-in to the Nintendo 3DS. So we're looking at quite a few ways to make the gameplay more immersive, more natural, more accessible. So again, not just a port -- but a retelling of the tale using new technologies to reinvent it.


I just realised something. Since the 3DS apparently has a smallish "sweet spot" for the 3D effect, it'd probably be a tiny bit hard to implement motion based controls when it might end up just making you motion sick and cross-eyed.

[Stevorooni]

I usually give OOT a run through every couple of years.


and I STILL get stuck in the water temple until I remember what to do!

[VanAce]

I usually give OOT a run through every couple of years.


and I STILL get stuck in the water temple until I remember what to do!

Stupid water temple!

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

According to the email Nintendo just sent me, the final design is "TBA".

I can't imagine they'd chance much at this stage but they ****ing need to. The pics in the email show it from side-on and it looks like a 3 layer samich.

[RunningMild]

I may have been sceptical at first, but now I'm getting one on launch with Kid Icarus: Uprising. They won me over. :p

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

The giant bomb guys had a lot of positive things to say about this.

Especially an app called Face Ace.

[SOX]

According to the email Nintendo just sent me, the final design is "TBA".

I can't imagine they'd chance much at this stage but they ****ing need to. The pics in the email show it from side-on and it looks like a 3 layer samich.

I was thinking before the 3DS was unveiled that they couldn't possibly **** up as hard as they did with the original DS design since they nailed it with the DSlite onwards - turns out Nintendo was out to prove me wrong.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

IGN just reported that you'll be able to install multiple games from your cartridges to the 3DS.

Not a chance that's gonna happen. Unless they've worked out some crazy new anti-piracy tech.

Also they need to announce a gameboy VC already.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I thought there was a weird edit in the e3.nintendo.com feed I finished watching today where Reggie's jacket disappeared.

LKBtIthEhj0

Turns out it was to hide Reggie's terrible acting.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

The augmented reality stuff sounds pretty cool (http://gaming.icrontic.com/news/impressions-from-e3-the-nintendo-3ds-and-games-lineup/).

[Newell]

Can anyone confirm if the 3DS itself will be in 3D? The pictures are all in 2D so I can't tell.

[tau]

it's actually just a thin piece of plastic, shaped in a way that makes it look identicall to the current DS, but being as thin and flat as a credit card and also displays 3D graphics.

[/backslash]

Looking forward to the new Pilotwings game coming to the 3DS! Nintendo needs to release more Pilotwing games

[aubergine]

I was disappointed actually that the top screen seems so small. It's barely wider than the lower screen, not as tall I don't think so that's going to be weird - although hopefully it will get bigger / more balanced-looking before release, its still a prototype after all.

Anyone remember how the DS looked when first revealed? It made the Phat look elegant in comparison.

[Australian Ninja]

If the DSi XL exists we can be assured a larger screen on the 3DS will be made available.

To be released six months after the 3D DS, followed by an even newer model 12 months later!

Any word yet on backwards compatibility? If it don't have it I won't be buying it.

[tau]

It uses DS sized carts and plays DS games.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

But is it backwards compatible with my DSware games?

Emphasis on my.


Also I want the entire VB catalog on the 3DSware.

[fleshtea]

3D games, goo. I want every byte of my cart to be full of awesome gameplay, not graphics. Or maybe I fail at understanding what bytes do. If it's not the bytes then it's the production time. I am not feeling the sunshine optimism about the 3DS no siree.

[tau]

K cool, you lament on the virtues of old hardware while we're all flying fox right in front of our faces


^_^

[tau]

Srsly, I want to cry in absolute joy at the thought of starfox64 in 3D on a portable.

:')

[Stevorooni]

New Zelda using the Wind Waker engine please (with proper controls instead of touchscreen).
Don't necessarily care about the 3D part (and wonder how that would look with cel shaded graphics anyway) but if they're going the realistic/grownup route with the Wii then continue Wind Waker Link on the DS.

[aubergine]

3D cel Wind Waker port would look awesome. I loved the explosions and smoke in that game.

[Stevorooni]

Not a port, a sequel.

I don't care if it follows on from the DS Zelda games storyline (hell put him on a magical pogo stick this time), it's gotta be done in that glorious Wind Waker style.

[ireadtabloids]

Not a port, a sequel.

I don't care if it follows on from the DS Zelda games storyline (hell put him on a magical pogo stick this time), it's gotta be done in that glorious Wind Waker style.

They're putting him on a magical pogo stick as we speak

http://revolutionmedia.ign.com/revolution/image/article/706/706194/the-legend-of-zelda-twilight-princess-wii-version-20060509115847801.jpg
It's amazing how fast Nintendo work these days.

[Stevorooni]

So the release date for this thing is being released on 29th of September.

That's right, the release date is being released then, then we'll know when the actual console will be released. Well who knows if they'll announce the Australian release date. We might need a release date to release the release date for Australia's release date, and even then we'll probably be told to go to a website that will just redirect to the UK's website.

[Natrak]

Just like earlier in the year, NAL will hold the earliest press conference and announce that the 3DS is coming to Australia...and that's it. Then the US and UK will get dates, but we'll have to wait months to hear anything about a local release date.

[ireadtabloids]

Have they announced the official hardware specs yet?
I'd be interested in finding out if it's as powerful as a GameCube.

[RunningMild]

So the release date for this thing is being released on 29th of September.

That's right, the release date is being released then, then we'll know when the actual console will be released. Well who knows if they'll announce the Australian release date. We might need a release date to release the release date for Australia's release date, and even then we'll probably be told to go to a website that will just redirect to the UK's website.

Just like earlier in the year, NAL will hold the earliest press conference and announce that the 3DS is coming to Australia...and that's it. Then the US and UK will get dates, but we'll have to wait months to hear anything about a local release date.

Reggie said 'all major territories by March 31st 2011', so we already know what the Australian release date is gonna be (last week of March 2011).

[Natrak]

So June 2011 then?

[Zeph101]

Donnie: 'Import?', Mikey: 'Import'

...

Donnie: 'Porkrind?', Mikey: 'Porkrind!'

[VanAce]

http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/news/23525/

Some guy from a 3rd party accessory maker has let drop the 3DS release date over twitter. 20 November is when it is going to drop. Whether this is true or not is yet to be known.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

If true, I'm assuming that's the Japanese date. We'll be lucky to get it this year.

[VanAce]

If true, I'm assuming that's the Japanese date. We'll be lucky to get it this year.

Whoops I forgot to mention that. It says in the article that it is.

[Stevorooni]

I'm thinking if we're lucky they'll squeeze in an Aussie December release for xmas like they did with the Wii or else it'll be March/April next year.

[VanAce]

Maybe. Or they might try and milk out one last Christmas for the DSi and DSi XL.

[aubergine]

Guy was discredited, doesn't mean he's wrong though.

[VanAce]

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/09/report-german-paper-dates-nintendo-3ds/

German Newspaper also claims November 11 for Japan with a Q1 2011 for Europe.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/conference2010/3ds/lineupMovHigh.html

http://au.ds.ign.com/articles/112/1124149p1.html

2 resident evil games but one looks like a multiplayer shooter or something.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

3DS supports transfers of downloaded software. (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/09/29/3ds-supports-transfers-for-downloaded-software/)

Including DSi to 3DS.

Good.

[Xanafalgue]

$300?

[Stevorooni]

I love Nintendo demo reels, so full of hope, potential and excitement before we hit the inevitible decent game release drought.

[Natrak]

3DS supports transfers of downloaded software. (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/09/29/3ds-supports-transfers-for-downloaded-software/)

Including DSi to 3DS.

Good.

Not that there's really anything on DSiWare that's worth hanging on to...

Here's the list:

Dark Void Zero

[Stevorooni]

There's going to be a virtual console library of Gameboy and GBA games in the future though!

[Starscream]

There's going to be a virtual console library of Gameboy and GBA games in the future though!

Just like the number of items on Club Nintendo Australia's website!

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Not that there's really anything on DSiWare that's worth hanging on to...

Here's the list:

Dark Void Zero

I was complaining about this to someone on msn today before this was confirmed and he was like "Yeah, what games do you have on dsiware?"

I couldn't remember. I know I deleted that shitty warioware game.

[aubergine]

I'm glad they instituted some kind of fix, I thought that was incredibly shabby you couldn't transfer titles.

[AyatollaofRocknRolla]

Watched the trailer and I'm officially pumped for the 3DS. Zelda OOT, Lylat Wars, RE, Kid Icarus all look great.

[Stevorooni]

I'm not pumped for the price though, apparently it's launching in Japan for the same price that the Wii launched at

[AranchineD]

I'm not pumped for the price though, apparently it's launching in Japan for the same price that the Wii launched at

It looks like a better console than the Wii though, so that's okay

[VanAce]

Seems a bit expensive for a handheld. I will have to see what the launch titles are and see if the virtual console is up and running day one.

[Cerebral]

http://cdnmo.coveritlive.com/media/image/201010/phpPbMRFEimage21.jpeg

hgggggrh

[Jickle]

gufhYicCUs4

[Nic Xtreme]

Holy ****sworthy.

(I'm on Team Phoenix btw)

[AranchineD]

wait what exactly am I watching


Because if I'm watching what I think I'm watching

hgggggrh

[VanAce]

Oh wow. This is great news. This is worth getting for sure. There is no objections here.

[Super Sleuth]

wait what exactly am I watching


Because if I'm watching what I think I'm watching

hgggggrh

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l8031etb8j1qcz44mo1_500.png

[FrozenSoul80]

iY4gtoyLpqE

Oh god, it's everything I've ever wanted.

[Gunblade89]

That is probably the best thing i've seen coming out for 3DS so far, Does anyone know any details on how the gameplay would work?

I'm not familiar with professor layton as i haven't got around to playing it yet.

[AyatollaofRocknRolla]

iY4gtoyLpqE

Oh god, it's everything I've ever wanted.

Brilliant! 3DS is going to be awesome.

[borgster101]

WTF?!!?

I didn't believe this when I first heard, and now I've seen and I'm still confused! And excited!

[FrozenSoul80]

I honestly can't wait. I'm very excited for a fair few of the announced 3DS games. I don't think I've been this excited about a console launch for a long time.

[Nic Xtreme]

Nintendo plans to localise previously Japan-only games as a way of keeping up a flow of new content for the DS. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-05-nintendo-sees-quirky-future-for-ds)

That'll sure as hell keep me buying DS games even when I've got a 3DS :D

[VanAce]

Hopefully other publishers follow suit

[Nic Xtreme]

Nintendo have arranged publishing deals for 3rd party games like Professor Layton and Dragon Quest IX, so there's a chance they'll do the same again (I hope...)

[VanAce]

Wouldn't mind seeing something like Jump Stars Ultimate getting an English release

[Nic Xtreme]

Wouldn't mind seeing something like Jump Stars Ultimate getting an English release

Unfortunately that game is a licensing nightmare :(

I've got the Japanese version and, with guides, it is perfectly playable. It's also an absolutely brilliant game and neeeeeeds a sequel!

[Natrak]

So the game is horrendous, then.

[Australian Ninja]

Interesting article in recent issue of Games TM suggests that 3DS games may minismise use of the touch screen/stylus, due to only the top screnn being utilised for the 3D effect, which means that developers may be stuck with using old style controls.

Good games are good games, but will Ninty make it's new handheld LESS accessible/profitable to the mainstream due to a reliance on old school controls?

[Australian Ninja]

Brilliant! 3DS is going to be awesome.

Home of the ultimate interactive txt.

IN 3D

[aubergine]

All the best DS games don't use the touch screen anyway, by which I mean Mariokart and Gameboy Advance games.

[Stevorooni]

I heard that someone who played the 3DS had trouble adjusting their eyes when switching from the top screen to the bottom screen because of the rapid switch from 3D to 2D. I wonder how Nintendo will deal with that.

[VanAce]

Yeah that would be a pain if you had to switch between screens constantly.

[aubergine]

I heard that someone who played the 3DS had trouble adjusting their eyes when switching from the top screen to the bottom screen because of the rapid switch from 3D to 2D. I wonder how Nintendo will deal with that.

I expect they will become extremely rich.

That would certainly help me deal with it. They say money can't make you happy but they only say that so the poor don't tear them limb from limb and take their money.

[Zeph101]

I expect they will become extremely rich.

That would certainly help me deal with it. They say money can't make you happy but they only say that so the poor don't tear them limb from limb and take their money.

Idk, you could do that for free and I'm pretty sure it would make me happy.

Personally I get headaches from using the DS as it is since my left eye doesn't focus properly so I can imagine using this is going to be hell.