Pokemon Black/White

[VanAce]

Has sort of been covered in The Gold/Silver thread but deserves its own thread.

First new pokemon were announced also

http://nintendo.joystiq.com/2010/02/10/whos-that-pokemon-its-zoroark/

Would be pretty cool if they mixed up the starter pokemon a bit by having a dark type.

Also some footage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XetPMIFoojk&feature=player_embedded

[Gutsman Heavy]

for the love of Ho-Oh please remove HMs!

[AranchineD]

for the love of Ho-Oh please remove HMs!

"Nintendo have announced plans to include 4 more HMs"

[Cubby]

What is a HM?

[Spudzilla]

Just once I'd like to play as a trainer bound to a wheelchair.

[Ali G]

What is a HM?
Have you ever played a Pokemon game?

[AranchineD]

Dark > Psychic > Fighting > Dark

[AranchineD]

>Implying they couldn't easily change that

Or have hybrids with fire/grass/water.

[AranchineD]

BECAUSE IT'S ALL NEW IN POKEMON WORLDl

[Cubby]

Have you ever played a Pokemon game?

Not since Red.

[Mr Pie]

I reckon getting all 3 starter pokemon would mix it up a bit. But my ideas are terrible.

[FF Freak]

the initial images I've seen on Serebii look rather interesting for these.

[Ninjalada]

for the love of Ho-Oh please remove HMs!

OMG yes. HM's are just a lazy way to make the games 'harder'.

[Natrak]

I wouldn't mind HMs so much if you could easily replace them without having to go through the majority of the game before finding the move deleter. You can use HMs as many times as you want anyway, so why not give players the ability to overwrite them with new moves, or even replace one HM move with another as needed?

[Spudzilla]

OMG yes. HM's are just a lazy way to make the games 'harder'.

They're not there to make the games harder, but to push you along in a certain direction to make sure you take on increasingly challenging gyms in a rough order.

[Ninjalada]

They're not there to make the games harder, but to push you along in a certain direction to make sure you take on increasingly challenging gyms in a rough order.

They could do it in a much better way though, like having to wake the sleeping Snorlax. I would prefer to have to wake 10 Snorlaxs than teach 10 different crappy HM moves to my Pokemon.

[VanAce]

Some of the HMs were good eg. Surf or Fly but others were just crap and only used to get to one area eg. Whirlpool. Maybe get rid of the crap ones and then have some different obstacles such as waking up Snorlax or flashing a certain gym badge or something like that.

also found some sprite of the new pokemon.
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/a/a3/SpriteZorua.png
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/40/SpriteZoroark.png

[FF Freak]

ah Zorua and Zoroark (sp?). Apparently from initial information there is going to be a special way to get them but that might be due to miss translations of the info.

[Silverwolf]

I wouldn't mind HMs so much if you could easily replace them without having to go through the majority of the game before finding the move deleter. You can use HMs as many times as you want anyway, so why not give players the ability to overwrite them with new moves, or even replace one HM move with another as needed?

One hundred times this, there is no reason not to.


On a more important note, which is the superior version? Hmmm.

[amcam]

You guy's don't want Fire Grass Water???

How about Lightning Rock Flying?

[Natrak]

One hundred times this, there is no reason not to.


On a more important note, which is the superior version? Hmmm.

White, of course.

[Ninjalada]

The purity of white is always superior.



How about Lightning Rock Flying?

Too bad flying doesn't do shit against rock.

[Mr Pie]

What if... they introduced 3 new types... Paper, Scissors and wait for it... ROCK
its a brilliant idea if I do say so myself.

[Mr Pie]

I like Kane's idea.

[Ali G]

I don't see what the problem is with Fire/Grass/Water, really. There's plenty of other things that you can change for a good reason, this would seem like a change just for the sake of it.

[Rambo]

I just think flying is weak in general. You got rock, electric and ice that can all dominate it.

[JubeiSaotome]

Was Pokemon XD bad? If so, lets hope this isn't a play on that.

[Mr Pie]

Fighting>Psychic>Dark>Fighting?

[BB2K]

You have the arrows the wrong way there, brosef.

[FrozenSoul80]

Also dark is immune to psychic, which really unbalances things.

[AranchineD]

Holy crap we just went around in a circle to the exact point we were at before



SO JUST LIKE A NEW POKEMON GAME THEN

[VanAce]

It would be cool if they had multiple regions like gold/silver.

I am also going to assume after Black and White they will release a Grey version.

[FrozenSoul80]

I am also going to assume after Black and White they will release a Grey version.

I'm kinda on the fence about this.

[Mr Pie]

Also dark is immune to psychic, which really unbalances things.

Yeah but most psychic Pokemon can pretty easily learn a different attack type. Like fighting types, and dark has a bit more trouble.

[Queenie]

no it doesn't, dark is characterised by shittough pokemon, i mean, look at ****ing umbreon, houndoom, mightyena etc.

Fighting has powerful moves, but I think, I think they shouldn't be "not very effective" against psychics. In the pokemon world, aren't the psychic's supposed to be pansies in a way, not v. physical? Doesn't make sense to me for fighting-types to not be v. affective against psychic (in an attacking sense).

Also, Ice needs more resistances.

It's god damn ice, it should be able to repel lots of types.


I wonder if they could have a "wood" type.

[Natrak]

omg u ****in...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/Natrak/psygrimes.png

[Bokracroc]

Needs a goddamn interesting story like the mangas have.

[Natrak]

Reads pokemon manga.

[Queenie]

what's it like?

[Bokracroc]

Reads pokemon manga.
Just the articles on Bulbapedia. But they're still totally more interesting even in short form.

[VanAce]

One of the manga stories

The story centers around a girl named Hazel who develops a crush on Almond, a Pokémon Trainer from whom she is constantly rebuffed. To receive a love potion from a scientist named Grandpa and thus gain Almond's affection, Hazel agrees to catch Pokémon for his research.

[Bokracroc]

???

I just read the Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Sliver stuff and that was interesting. Things die and shit.

[Beinkasaurus Rex]

It'd be mad if every half hour the game would start playing the pokerap/viridian city/team rocket song and you have to sit through all of it as it's an interactive cutscene, and if you don't hit the buttons appropriately another pokemon would die. It'd be totally adult and mature and stuff.

[VanAce]

Or if you met a person who owned a new pokemon you hadn't seen that was used in some kind of pokemon related occupation, you tried to solve their problem but team rocket would come. You defeat Team Rocket while at the same time fixing the character you met earlier, who is now like a good friend, problems at the same time.

[VanAce]

there should also be a pokemon rap mini game

[ireadtabloids]

Those are all terrible ideas. I blame the cartoon series.

[Second]

They are excellent ideas. Dickhead.

[Beinkasaurus Rex]

Get out of the thread ireadtabloids you're contributing absolutely nothing

[JimmyKane]

Those are all terrible ideas. I blame the cartoon series.
Somebody ban this guy.

[FF Freak]

The starters are possibly going to be announced May 16th according to Serebii.

[VanAce]

http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/black_white_starters.jpg

Silhouettes of the starter pokemon

[AranchineD]

Wow, looks shit already

[VanAce]

Agreed. This surfaced not long after the silhouettes were shown.

http://www.justpushstart.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/starters-bw.jpg

They look even worse if these are real.

[Gutsman Heavy]

So, Grass Lizard-Bird, Fire Raccoon-Beaver & Water Bunny-pig? Hmm, I'll reserve judgement for their evolutions...

[FrozenSoul80]

Those are the worst things I have ever seen. Nosepass is cool by comparison.

[Nic Xtreme]

Looks like a ****ing grass Cyndaquil. I'm the biggest Pokemon nerd in the universe and even I think they look shit. Boo!

(I kinda like the water pig <_<)

[TSplodey]

I thought it was a donkey.

[JimmyKane]

Wow, even WhyMe hates them.

I wonder whether Cubby thinks they are the coolest.

[FrozenSoul80]

I thought it was a donkey.

Whatever it is it looks like ass.

[AranchineD]

Whatever it is it looks like ass.

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/9002/simpsonsm.png

[FF Freak]

I don't mind the raccoon looking one though it's appearance seems to be more befitting a normal type rather than a fire type.

[VanAce]

According to the article that I found them on they may not actually be real as only the silhouettes have been officially announced. Possible it could be someone who has been the outlines and just filled in the gaps.

[Second]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e388/Rudaroo/biddemon.jpg

Obviously.

[Mr Pie]

That... is a work of art.

[JimmyKane]

The ****ing water and fire ones are nearly the same

as Bidoof.

[Second]

N.B. I stole it from Kotaku. Your pep is still welcome.

[JubeiSaotome]

I actually like the fire beaver

[Watchers]

I actually like the fire beaver

I thought you were trying to breed the redhead out of you with RawkSuga?

[Charlie_]

Those are the worst things I have ever seen. Nosepass is cool by comparison.
mte.

Oh well, I don't mind what the 5th Gen Pokemon look like. I'm just happy we're getting another game.

[BB2K]

Dude, do you just kind of make up stuff without looking and post it?

[Charlie_]

Hehhh?

[Nic Xtreme]

Real starters here: http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

So a fire pig, an insectoid-looking grass thing, and a...the water one looks like something but I can't quite put my finger on it :/

I think they're much better than the others before but still a bit iffy, although this time I can see the awesome evolution potential.

[9warbane]

Beaver/otter/platypus... I think.

[Nic Xtreme]

Beaver/otter/platypus... I think.

That's it, an otter. But there's already Buizel :/ I like the shell on its chest.

[AranchineD]

I want to punch the grass one for being a smug c***.

I want to punch the fire one for being obnoxiously happy.

I want to punch the water one for being a depressing downer.

[Silverwolf]

I like the shell on its chest.

At least someone found something to like about it.

[FrozenSoul80]

I hate them. They make Aran look cool by comparison.

[AranchineD]

http://www.hyper.com.au/forums/image.php?u=2532&dateline=1225613857

[VanAce]

Hopefully they evolve into something a bit more badass. They generally do.

[BB2K]

Water one looks alot like a palette swap of Piplup.

[JimmyKane]

The manic depression Pokemon.

Signature move: Two Hour Sandwich

[Blob]

Water one looks alot like a palette swap of Piplup.

Looks like it has a penis on its chest...

[Dastardly]

I want to punch the grass one for being a smug c***.

I want to punch the fire one for being obnoxiously happy.

I want to punch the water one for being a depressing downer.
You want to punch a bunch of animals, aren't you a big man.

So, yeah, all the designs are shit so far. Faaaaantastic.

[Super Sleuth]

I want to punch the grass one for being a smug c***.

Obvious serial mastubator.

[Cerebral]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6705127/poke.JPG

short shorts

[Silverwolf]

dems sum short shorts alrite

[AranchineD]

Those are the worst designed short pockets I have ever seen

[Second]

jorts

[AranchineD]

Those are the worst designed jortkets I have ever seen.

[FF Freak]

Those are the worst designed jortkets I have ever seen.

rofl

According to what serebii has written the characters are supposed to be older than the characters of the previous games. I don't quite see how that's possible since they never gave ages for the earlier characters (that I remember) but maybe we'll get a darker story because of it. Then again we'll probably just get the same generic story we've had every game.

Also announced is that Zorua has an ability called Illusion which seems to work similar to transform but obviously with unannounced differences.

[AranchineD]

Well if you go by how old Ash is in the TV series, then they're about 12

[FF Freak]

that's true...I've always wondered if Ash actually ages as the TV series progresses because from the images I've seen he still looks the same in ep 400+ as he did in ep 1.

[TSplodey]

He has a different hat.

[Mr Pie]

Women want his secret to aging less.

[JimmyKane]

I would've thought they'd want it more.

[Cerebral]

According to what serebii has written the characters are supposed to be older than the characters of the previous games.

Struggle with rival trainers, Team Rocket, and puberty to become the ultimate Pokemon master

[Queenie]

why would the beaver/otter shaped one be fire? that's retarded.

I'd like to see a new thing- like how ruby introduced below the waves action with dive, perhaps a move like SOAR or something to make you go high in the sky and explore shit up there, but with that said, I'm not sure what you could explore. they could erm go to top of mountains or fly over them or something, introduce things to make barriers or something, it could work.

As a battle move, lets say pokemon x casts soar- it is like fly, except instead of damage coming on the second term, soar lets you choose the turn it comes in on, ie, you can choose to remain soaring, or attack.

[Cerebral]

I'd like to see a new thing- like how ruby introduced below the waves action with dive, perhaps a move like SOAR or something to make you go high in the sky and explore shit up there, but with that said, I'm not sure what you could explore. they could erm go to top of mountains or fly over them or something, introduce things to make barriers or something, it could work.

As a battle move, lets say pokemon x casts soar- it is like fly, except instead of damage coming on the second term, soar lets you choose the turn it comes in on, ie, you can choose to remain soaring, or attack.

Literally the two worst ideas I have ever read

[Cerebral]

Inflict poison
SOAR






























canttouchthis.mp3

[AranchineD]

Soar sounds like a pretty fast move, I think it should be a move that always attacks first

[TSplodey]

Its like Fly but youre in the air for TWO turns.

[AranchineD]

And you can use "x Beam" attacks while Soaring, it doesn't make sense that you couldn't shoot lasers while flying through the air

[Cerebral]

You can argue that due to the momentum while soaring, the pokemon will be propelled back into a SOAR state after attacking

[VanAce]

that's true...I've always wondered if Ash actually ages as the TV series progresses because from the images I've seen he still looks the same in ep 400+ as he did in ep 1.

I think there is closer to 650 episodes now.

[TSplodey]

You can argue that due to the momentum while soaring, the pokemon will be propelled back into a SOAR state after attacking
So its a retarded Flying Rollout, nice.

[Queenie]

that is not my intention at all.

you can't attack while soaring is my meaning.

But that whole poison thing does make it nasty.

Poison

Soar

game.



But I do think adding a flying area would add another dimension to the game.

[Spudzilla]

No, it's ****ing stupid.

[Blob]

No, it's ****ing stupid.

Not really.
With the move to 3d environments I think having areas that you can only fly to would be cool. Adds to the exploration aspect of the game.

[Natrak]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/Natrak/psygrimes.png

[Queenie]

No, it's ****ing stupid.

why is it stupid?

Because it's my opinion, or do all of you have reasons that you'd like to inform me of?

[FrozenSoul80]

canttouchthis.mp3

canttouchthis.mid

[Second]

Holy ****ing Shit!

[FrozenSoul80]

You can call it SNORKEL

It also protects you from surf.

[AranchineD]

BLASTOISE used SUBMARINE

[JimmyKane]

How about a car attack.

Where the Pokemon get in a car and run over the other Pokemon.

It can be like rollout except invincible.

[Super Sleuth]

A Wild War Veteran appeared!

Morphix used car attack.

It's super effective.

Morphix collected 2 years for winning.

Sent some to mum.

[Nic Xtreme]

The starters have already been named by the mighty internet. Smugleaf, Pignition (WHICH IS A FANTASTIC NAME) and Derpderp.

Smugleaf has quite a following. (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/05/pokemons-smugleaf-a-meme-in-the-making/)

[Newell]

It seems the Pokemon look slightly alive now.

cbf yt tagging (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jELPujFRgc&annotation_id=annotation_239455&feature=iv)

[Clockw0rk]

I'm not too enthusiastic TBH.
1jELPujFRgc

[VanAce]

Pokemon finally have proper animations during battle. This gets my tick of approval.

[Newell]

'Proper' is a matter of opinion.

[TSplodey]

Well theyre not lifeless splotches of colour. I never expect great leaps and bounds in progression from the Pokemon series.

[BB2K]

to be honest I'd rather the static images than this 'animation'. I can see what they are trying to do, but what I can't see is why they can't get 3D models like the ones in Pokemon Stadium, they'd probably have to give the cartridge more memory, but they created the cartridges in the first place.

[Blob]

to be honest I'd rather the static images than this 'animation'. I can see what they are trying to do, but what I can't see is why they can't get 3D models like the ones in Pokemon Stadium, they'd probably have to give the cartridge more memory, but they created the cartridges in the first place.

I prefer the animated sprites to the shoddy 3d models on the 64. They just look better.

[VanAce]

http://news.suite101.com/article.cfm/pokemon-black-and-white-versions-american-release-confirmed-a242335

Reshiram
http://images.suite101.com/1885782_com_reshiram.jpg

Zekrom
http://images.suite101.com/1885786_com_zekrom.jpg

They sure look legendary.

So I assume about 9 months to a year before the game comes out here.

[TSplodey]

The white one looks like god played a cruel joke when putting its parts together, the black one is pretty neat though. I'm glad theyve moved away from the Multicoloured Flaps and Frills design of D/P too.

[JimmyKane]

I dunno, monochrome?

They could pull it off to look stylish or they could be the most boring Pokemon yet.

[Dastardly]

It's Palkia!

Twice!

Best designs thus far, but we're still nowhere near anything interesting yet.

[AranchineD]

Aren't they just black and white rip-offs of Garchomp?

Classic Nintendo can never make something original

[FrozenSoul80]

The white guys genital barb looks like it is great for pelvic thrusting.

[VanAce]

The white guys genital barb looks like it is great for pelvic thrusting.

Use Hump attack!

[Blob]

I actually quite like the look of the Legendaries, especially the white angel thing for some reason.

[VanAce]

I don't mind the look of them but maybe they need to change the artists from generation to generation just to mix it up a bit and this way you may get some different pokemon.

[VanAce]

7 new pokemon (http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/news/22676/)

Hopefully the Crocodile one evolves into something very badass.

[AranchineD]

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7826/pokemonbwnew7.png

what the **** is this shit

[AranchineD]

Seriously. 'Gear'. That's the best they've got. God damn Game Freak.

[AranchineD]

What's it going to do? GEAR USES TURN

I cannot express how angry this makes me!

[Nic Xtreme]

OMG I can't wait for this game <3 <3 <3

I'm going to buy the new plushies for the B/W starters!

[ireadtabloids]

Well we haven't seen Pokemon Black/White at E3, but this guys delirium was amusing (http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/109/1098679p1.html) =)

You heard it here first, better than Pokemon Black.

[VanAce]

http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/news/22803/

Some new footage.

EDIT: Something I didn't notice until i watch the video a second time was that there looks to be 3 on 3 battles. That sounds pretty cool. i hop e it works well and isn't just a way of making battles long and stretched out.

[VanAce]

Another new Pokémon outed? (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=254511)

Looks pretty crappy but when you see how its been painted any pokemon would look crap that way.

[pecka_a]

Sorry if this has already been said. I would find it funny if they used Michael Jacksons black or white as a marketing campaign.

[pecka_a]

I'm not sure if I will get this I want to but I'm not sure will it be a whole NEW story or like the other ones with the same story but one or two different things thrown in.

[VanAce]

http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/news/22936/

Apparently the game will have video chat if you have a DSi or 3DS

[VanAce]

http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/news/23177/

Does this mean when in a cave I wont encounter a Geodude or Zubat every second step?

[Queenie]

NO MORE ****ING ZUBATS


ie, no old pokemon encountered till maingame beat.

So, I'm never completing story mode. EVER. WOOT!

[VanAce]

http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/news/23375/

Has become the fastest selling DS game in Japan ever with over 1 million to date.

[VanAce]

Famitsu has given the game a perfect score. It is only the 15th game to have achieved this since the magazines start in 1986.

[AranchineD]

Except that in the past few years they've been handing them out left, right and centre.

[VanAce]

Yeah 10 of them were in the last 5 years.

[Starscream]

Just checking Play-Asia, it says that the game is "DSi enhanced".

Region locking finally hits the DS platform.

CBF trawling 10+ pages of this thread to look for "DSi enhanced". My bad if it has been mentioned.

[Ali G]

Just checking Play-Asia, it says that the game is "DSi enhanced".

Region locking finally hits the DS platform.

CBF trawling 10+ pages of this thread to look for "DSi enhanced". My bad if it has been mentioned.
So does that mean it's region locked just if you're playing it on a DSi/XL, or for Lites/originals as well?

[Starscream]

Not sure, but I'd guess it's along the lines you can only buy DSi games from the DSi online shop specific to your region.

So DSi enhancements would only work on DSi region specific consoles (DSi & XL). Don't know how it would fare on DSL/DSPhat though since these handheld consoles are region free.

Could force people to upgrade to a DSi/XL/3DS by making games just for the DSi platform.

[AranchineD]

Holy shit

Smugserpent



Let's see if there's anything else good there
















http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/20.jpg

oh dear

[AranchineD]

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/39.jpg

JESUS CHRIST HE HAS A MOTHERF***ING GIRDERl

[Super Sleuth]

90% of them are ridiculously similar to existing pokemon. But that was always going to be the case.

edit - why can't I right click on the Serebii site?

[Nic Xtreme]

Holy shit. That Chandelier Pokemon and "Ononokusu" are awesome.

#nerdwhoonlylooksatbasestats

[AranchineD]

edit - why can't I right click on the Serebii site?

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/20.jpg

[JimmyKane]

Cam Shea: the Pokemon

[ireadtabloids]

They should do that.

But I don't know... I'm a little over pokemon...
Drop me a line if you think this'll be the game to reinvigorate the franchise.

[Super Sleuth]

Ok, I fixed the right clicking problem.

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/5.jpg





No thanks to you guys...

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/58.jpg

[Starscream]

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/39.jpg

JESUS CHRIST HE HAS A MOTHERF***ING GIRDERl

aka Constructachamp

[Mr Pie]

I sincerely hope you aren't serious.

[Nic Xtreme]

As expected, this game is brilliant. I can't wait till it comes out in English <3

I love how it displays the current time as you battle, amongst other things. And you can add piano/drums to the first town's song on request OMG I wonder if that is possible in every town? A game after my own heart.

The highlight is definitely, if you play as a chick, the arse shot you get every time you send out a Pokemon.

[Starscream]

As expected, this game is brilliant. I can't wait till it comes out in English <3

I love how it displays the current time as you battle, amongst other things. And you can add piano/drums to the first town's song on request OMG I wonder if that is possible in every town? A game after my own heart.

The highlight is definitely, if you play as a chick, the arse shot you get every time you send out a Pokemon.

Now you're scaring me....

[VanAce]

I find it funny how there is an ice-cream pokemon and when it evolves all it does is get a bit bigger and gain an extra scoop.

[Mr Pie]

What flavour?

[VanAce]

What flavour?

It was white so I assume vanilla or mayonnaise flavour.

[VanAce]

How pokemon get made. (http://www.1up.com/news/how-pokemon-get-made)

[AranchineD]

Snivy
Tepig
Oshawott


Now I already know the game is awesome, but these are still the worst ****ing names for starter pokemon ever.

[Gunblade89]

This sounds like a good laugh, surely they are running out of pokemon designs by now?

[AranchineD]

Actually most of the pokemon designs in this game are awesome.

[Natrak]

Snivy
Tepig
Oshawott


Now I already know the game is awesome, but these are still the worst ****ing names for starter pokemon ever.

Snivy's fine, the others not so much. Oshawatt in particular is horrendous.

[AranchineD]

ITT heatz forgets what it's like to be cool

[Gunblade89]

Actually most of the pokemon designs in this game are awesome.

Yeah i'm sure they will be, but some of them seem so out of place. :p

i've played Red, Silver and Pearl and i always seem to eat these games up.

[FrozenSoul80]

Osha-what? How am I supposed to be cool with names like these?

[VanAce]

According to EB Games in Fountain Gate this comes out March 10 locally.