Can we have pep back now pls?

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I figure if the forum's going to die, we might as well go out in style.

Here are some reasons to bring back the pep:

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/Avatars-Sigs/SpinningPep-1.gif

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/My%20Gifs/PepCum.gif

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/My%20Photoshops/PepPal.png

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/My%20Gifs/TheNepmanCometh.gif

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/My%20Photoshops/BigBookofPep.jpg

And that's just some of the reasons.

[Spudzilla]

Bring it back, I think FX-GTZ has had plenty of time to wipe away his nep induced tears.

[AranchineD]

Signed with an X

[Super Sleuth]

John Hancock.

[V²]

pep incoming for everyone in this thread.
oh wait.....

[Spudzilla]

Just pep our UYAC accounts

[V²]

but pep there means nothing
even terrible posters like: v-squared,
have full pep!

btw,
blake add a poll, if the majority want pep back then the mods have to give it to us, its in the constitution.
It's what democracy is all about you stalin sexing, moaist fellating, george bush bumming commie mods!

[Stevorooni]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/Stevorooni/pep-1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/Stevorooni/pepblake.gif
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/Stevorooni/pepstevo-1.gif
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/Stevorooni/puppy.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/Stevorooni/bobnep.gif
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/Stevorooni/rep4saleanim.gif

[Dunkurtin]

I approve of this cause.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

blake add a poll

I cannot!

Maybe I should become an admin again while they're fussin' around with the backend.

[Second]

Blake for Admin!

[Watchers]

I vote for the return of pep also. And my moderator vote is worth, like, 1000000 of your pleb votes.

[cube_punk]

God, I SO want to pep Blake...


AND HERIN LIES THE PROBLEM

[aubergine]

My Venerated Ex-Moderator vote is worth 17 Ken Kutaragis running 8 cores apiece calculating a cure to cancer over zombie networks, and EVERY part of that bizarre metaphor commands the return of pep.

Pep. It's time, gentlemen.

[Watchers]

Poll added, for those who like hard numbers.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

You included a "no" option?

This is why I should be put back in charge.

[TAT]

Bring it back, along with join date and post count

[FX-GTZ]

I never wanted it gone in the first place, i just didnt want it on MY profile.

[the_tic_begins]

Why bring back pep, this place is so full of elitist groupies, its beyond a joke
The fools circle jerked pep and post count as if it had some meaning, destroying any meaning it may have had, cried when it left, and they continue to cry about it now, little sad much. Move on, have a fruitcup, maybe a jog around the block at dawn etc


Circle jerk nep time ladys, come and get me

Wow, my post has less mistakes than Hypeer Magazrine.

[V²]

I don't agrre with the Watchers is a sexy beast policy, but I do agree with their Blake-killing policy

[aubergine]

Biggest advantage of pep to me was as a short message service to see what people find funny or interesting. People simply don't use the weird post-little-messages thing we have now, it has to be directly linked to the inspired post in question.

Being able to vote posts up or down might be even better and more transparent too.

[Araenel]

I have never been more torn between poll options before.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Why bring back pep, this place is so full of elitist groupies, its beyond a joke
The fools circle jerked pep and post count as if it had some meaning, destroying any meaning it may have had, cried when it left, and they continue to cry about it now, little sad much. Move on, have a fruitcup, maybe a jog around the block at dawn etc


Circle jerk nep time ladys, come and get me

Wow, my post has less mistakes than Hypeer Magazrine.

Sounds like you need some pep to clear away those cobwebs!

[TAT]

The poll isn't public?!

You'd be ****ing banned for that @ UYAC

[Jay]

Thank **** this isn't UYAC then. :p

Personally I liked pep as a way of acknowledging/having acknowledged good posts, but was in favour of suspending it at the time because, whatever people might like to fabricate now, it was being used as a tool for systematic bullying. However I wouldn't mind seeing it back as long as it was used with some kind of courtesy. Not really sure there needs to be a nep system at all. If you have that much of a problem with someone's post then have the balls to say it publicly or shut the **** up.

[V²]

i think the pep system was being used as a measure for quality posts, but in that circumstance, the quality was very bad, and numerously people felt the samesung.
I also believe the people did repeatly bring up this particular posters horrible posting talents in certain threads also
BTW way Jay, when we get pep back, me and my circle jerking friends are going to nep you, the tichead begins, and the person who voted 'no' into oblivlion.
: ( I have no friends

[SOX]

First thing I will do when rep is brought back in is nep the **** out of FX - who's with me?

[aubergine]

It would suck to have to dismantle it again nearly immediatly for the people still dragging the broken toys of high school in their stunted kidult chests.

[FrozenSoul80]

First thing I will do when rep is brought back in is nep the **** out of FX - who's with me?

Yeah, not helping.

[Rambo]

So we all want it back, but who are we waiting for to post? Who gives it the yay or nay?

[Nic Xtreme]

The mods voted once before - when the forum was brought back to life - and while a couple others and I wanted it the majority said "NO!" and it was settled. I don't think the admins want it, either. Pity.

[Ingram]

Pep that shit now!

[Lazlow]

Not really sure there needs to be a nep system at all. If you have that much of a problem with someone's post then have the balls to say it publicly or shut the **** up.

Yeah, I strongly disagree with this notion. Its a dichotomous system, telling people to use it differently based on the nature of their feedback basically destroys the integrity of the system.

Telling people to not respond with negative feedback is essentially censorship. Telling them to air their grievances in a public space will only encourage arguments.

One of the pros people listed for the rep system was to be able to tell someone you liked their post, without filling threads with empty +1 posts. The same avenue should then be used to tell people where you disagree with something they've written.

You either have the whole system, or none at all.


I never wanted it gone in the first place, i just didnt want it on MY profile.

Didn't you have it disabled at some point?

[mcfustin]

Yeah, I strongly disagree with this notion. Its a dichotomous system, telling people to use it differently based on the nature of their feedback basically destroys the integrity of the system.

Telling people to not respond with negative feedback is essentially censorship. Telling them to air their grievances in a public space will only encourage arguments.

One of the pros people listed for the rep system was to be able to tell someone you liked their post, without filling threads with empty +1 posts. The same avenue should then be used to tell people where you disagree with something they've written.

You either have the whole system, or none at all.




Didn't you have it disabled at some point?

+1

Seriously though, I liked the old rep system. And as long as people don't go crazy with a nep-bullying agenda, I'm all for bringing it back.

[Stevorooni]

Other forums just let you add a little + or - to a post which give it a little score, does vbulletin have an equivalent?

[REQUIEM]

Pep was abused so it got taken away. I dont care eitherway as I was fond of my red squares (neps are the new black) but it doesnt make a difference to the sites activity.

[FX-GTZ]

Didn't you have it disabled at some point?
I did, but i would have preferred it to be completely off my profile.

[Super Sleuth]

What's the point of it all without pleasure and pain?

[AranchineD]

For some people they're the same thing!

[Vindik8or]

Just leave it dead. It would only come back with a whole pile of caveats and regulations, enough to make it pointless and tedious.

[AranchineD]

Dear moderators,

I hereby formally request the delivery of one postive reputation comment to user 'JimmyKane'.

I base my request on the grounds of:
-I found his post humorous due to both the absurdity and irony present in it

I hope you can quickly grant this request,

AranchineD

[Sweating Bullets]

Dear moderators,

I hereby formally request the delivery of one postive reputation comment to user 'JimmyKane'.

I base my request on the grounds of:
-I found his post humorous due to both the absurdity and irony present in it

I hope you can quickly grant this request,

AranchineD

http://www.webdesign-guru.co.uk/icon/wp-content/uploads/denied.gif

Probably already posted somewhere in this thread but talk is currently underway about revising the pep system.

[FrozenSoul80]

Telling people to not respond with negative feedback is essentially censorship. Telling them to air their grievances in a public space will only encourage arguments.

The problem is that nep creates these arguements in private where we can't help. I want the rep system back, but the community needs to show us that they won't act like children with it - this goes for people giving and receiving.

[AranchineD]

this goes for people giving and receiving.

heheheheheh

[TAT]

The problem is that nep creates these arguements in private where we can't help. I want the rep system back, but the community needs to show us that they won't act like children with it - this goes for people giving and receiving.

The rep system was in place with fewer restrictions @ MJ (and now UYAC), and the only problem has been Super Mario repping with pictures of Fritzel.

[Watchers]

Just leave it dead. It would only come back with a whole pile of caveats and regulations, enough to make it pointless and tedious.

We could just ban Vin from using it - that would solve half the problem.

It would more likely be an ammended rule to disallow bullying or harrassment via rep. If someone felt bullied, they could let a mod know and we could check it out and pursue disciplinary action, if required. Just saying a particular post is bad should be ok, but the question remains of where we draw the line between feedback and harrassment.

[AranchineD]

And when you say 'harassment', you mean 'putting abusive message in rep', and not just continually nepping someone if they continually make posts you think are bad, right?





YES THAT'S RIGHT I JUST BROUGHT THIS UP AGAIN

[FrozenSoul80]

The rep system was in place with fewer restrictions @ MJ (and now UYAC), and the only problem has been Super Mario repping with pictures of Fritzel.

But you don't share the forum with forumers you dislike.

Sorry for playing Devil's Advocate here, but I just don't want this rivival to fail. People get pretty cut up about nep (yes, I realise this is stupid, but they do), we don't want to see hurtful nep messages.

[Watchers]

And when you say 'harassment', you mean 'putting abusive message in rep', and not just continually nepping someone if they continually make posts you think are bad, right?





YES THAT'S RIGHT I JUST BROUGHT THIS UP AGAIN

That's what I mean, yes.

[AranchineD]

But you don't share the forum with forumers you dislike.


Well I don't like TAT very much, so...

[FrozenSoul80]

And when you say 'harassment', you mean 'putting abusive message in rep', and not just continually nepping someone if they continually make posts you think are bad, right?

It would probably good if you left constructive criticism with nep, to help the user improve.

Examples:

Good:
"Basic punctuation will make your post easier to read :D"

Bad:
"You're a shit person"

[Watchers]

Or say something witty, rather than 'Die'.

[Stevorooni]

Can you set the rep values to 0 so that no score gets added whether you nep or pep and people can just leave little messages?

[Vindik8or]

Really, do you guys have some kind of genetic longing for bureaucracy and redtape? It's kinda weird at the same time, because not one of you is very good at it either.

[aubergine]

Other forums just let you add a little + or - to a post which give it a little score, does vbulletin have an equivalent?

Yeah mentioned this earlier, I've noticed the vote up/down function they have at joystiq and eurogamer recently and thought that would be a great alternative as it seems pretty transparent. Although it's just per-post it won't stop people ganging up on users, but everyone would see this is happening and may actually vote posts back up again when it's unreasonable.

[TAT]

But you don't share the forum with forumers you dislike.
This is bullshit, but as long as javer is the only person with full access and an undeletable account, he bans who he wants

[aubergine]

It would probably good if you left constructive criticism with nep, to help the user improve.

Examples:

Good:
"Basic punctuation will make your post easier to read :D"

Bad:
"You're a shit person"

From a moderation pov I think the best to be done is have a guideline - not a RULE but a guide to users - on what's a postive and acceptable use of the system, with examples like you have there. The main thing is to avoid people with an obsessive stalker mentality harrasing single users as happened before.

You could probably steal the guidelies from any iBully government website.

[AranchineD]

From a moderation pov I think the best to be done is have a guideline - not a RULE but a guide to users - on what's a postive and acceptable use of the system, with examples like you have there. The main thing is to avoid people with an obsessive stalker mentality harrasing single users as happened before.

You could probably steal the guidelies from any iBully government website.

And remember kids, if you make nothing but bad posts, people can only nep you once, because you'll never get pep to break things up!

[SOX]

Probably already posted somewhere in this thread but talk is currently underway about revising the pep system.

This is all I wanted to hear (well aside from it being brought back in now)

[Stevorooni]

MAYBE THERE'S SOME PEP IN THIS TRUCK! allcaps

[BB2K]

That is why we need pep back.

[TAT]

Banhammer coming your way, dickhead

[Silverwolf]

The Mods' posts in this thread just solidifies the fact that bringing rep back wont work at all.

I was all for it until I read this thread too.

[Queenie]

We can't have nice things because when we have nice things people abuse them.

That said I did enjoy pep, or rather, the things people did to get it.

[SOX]

Actually while you guys are at it, can you put our post counts and join dates back on too?

[borgster101]

Why not bring pep back .. but have no nep option. Kind of like how on Facebook there is no "dislike" option.

This way all the positives of pep return .. i.e. people get acknowledgement for good posts and people won't feel bullied from nep.

[Lazlow]

Why not bring pep back .. but have no nep option. Kind of like how on Facebook there is no "dislike" option.

This way all the positives of pep return .. i.e. people get acknowledgement for good posts and people won't feel bullied from nep.

I addressed this earlier (http://www.hyper.com.au/forums/showpost.php?p=1197102&postcount=33)

[AranchineD]

If people don't want people to abuse it they'd be asking for not being able to leave messages at all and only having numeric values

[Vindik8or]

If people don't want people to 'abuse' it, it's because they deserve it and are scared.

[Second]

I just took a massive shit. I really shouldn't have eaten that Ice Cream.

[AranchineD]

If people don't want people to 'abuse' it, it's because they deserve it and are scared.

Oh I agree, but I'm just saying, people who are saying "Get rid of the number, keep the message" wouldn't actually stop what they want to stop (I'd say something more specific but I can't because I don't know what it is they want to stop)

[Rambo]

Wait. Is FX the reason we lost pep to begin with?

[AranchineD]

Yes, but the mods can't admit that, or everyone will get really pissed off at FX and nep the f*** out of him if the system gets brought back.

[JimmyKane]

Let's not play the blame game.

I'd rather we had nep (which I used actually only once or twice anyway), but I'd be happy with a "pep only" system tbqh

[AranchineD]

Have you noticed that Hyper was hacked, and we lost the rep system, just after JimmyKane joined the forums?

[SOX]

Come to think of it - I have never seen Fenrir and JimmyKane in the same room at the same time..

[/backslash]

I vote for the return of pep also. And my moderator vote is worth, like, 1000000 of your pleb votes.
Since I'm an ex-mod I'm worth half of that amount of votes ;) +500,000

[Vindik8or]

Pretty sure it means you're worth half the amount of a regular user. So none.

[Second]

o snap

u jus gat rekd

[AranchineD]

With Vin also implying a regular user is also worth none.


YEPYEPYEPYEPYEP

[Watchers]

Yes, but the mods can't admit that, or everyone will get really pissed off at FX and nep the f*** out of him if the system gets brought back.

Hey, I can admit that. It doesn't take a genius to work it out. Though I don't think I was a mod at the time...

And just leaving text rather than a number doesn't really solve anything. You'd just see 'Crap post' stacked 10 times rather than a bit of red with 'Crap post' stacked 10 times (and a running tally). I don't see the difference.

Feel free to state any other changes you may/may not want on it guys, and we'll look into it.

[Lazlow]

No changes, just reinstate the old system. If problems arise, the user can simply report and mods can investigate; same for everything else in this place.

[FX-GTZ]

I'd say leave it how it is. The forum has become somewhat more friendly from my point of view. A full PM box sure works wonders.

[TAT]

I'd say leave it how it is. The forum has become somewhat more friendly from my point of view. A full PM box sure works wonders.
I've stuck my fingers in my ears and people have stopped saying nasty things to me

**** you

[FX-GTZ]

Having it left off has made this forum more enjoyable for everyone here. There will be nothing but hatred and abuse, and then it'll just lead to it getting shut off again.

[Vindik8or]

It's okay, he'll take them out from time to time and cry to the moderators about the mean things people are shouting, all the while maintaining that he cannot hear you.

[AranchineD]

33 people disagree with you

[FX-GTZ]

33 people are full of hatred and abuse, probably ready to pounce at me with the old "nep" button.

[AranchineD]

PARANOID FXDROID l

[AranchineD]

I guess we better not turn on that Large Hadron Collider in case the world explodes, hey buddy

[Vindik8or]

To be fair, I pretty much lampshaded this little snippet of conversation a page or so back. But to be more fair, I doubt that FX even read it.

[FX-GTZ]

Yeah you doubt alot of things about me dont you? Well i guess some old people never change.

[Vindik8or]

Oh man, you got my number.

[BB2K]

It's really hard to believe that FX's online persona isn't just an act.

[AranchineD]

It's really hard to believe that FX's online persona isn't just an act.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/quatters/Simpsons/cap145.jpg

[Lazlow]

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/1976/1271760282121.jpg

[Super Sleuth]

It's really hard to believe that FX's online persona isn't just an act.

I've thought that as well. Every post reads as bait bait bait bait etc.

[aubergine]

I'm not certain FX DID complain to us, I think we were just taking a look at rep comments at the time. If you want blame anyone for rep being dumped you should be blaming me. It was MY long memory about Vindik8ors perverse obsession with FX over several years that left me driving that whole effort.

I wasn't around (busy at work and forums were down) when they removed all the frills but it never would have gone about if I wasn't so furious and fed up with the kindergarten bullshit.

I recognise that users like texta and IRS are incapable of posting so have them on ignore. If you nep every single post of a user instead of ignoring them, that makes YOU a complete arsehole.

[AranchineD]

And as we all know the mods are here to moderate character

[Natrak]

It was aubergine's perverse obsession with Vindik8or's perverse obsession with FX over several years...

[Stevorooni]

and in a startling twist, aubergine, Vindik8or and FX are all the alternate personalities of one particular user:

[Vindik8or]

One virgin, one heterosexual, and one into ladyboys. It's almost Biblical.

[Stevorooni]

I can smell a sitcom in the making

[AranchineD]

And it'll be six seasons of twists and turns before we find out who is into which

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Hey, as long as I'm making more money than all 3, I'm happy!

[REQUIEM]

It was dropped due to the fact that they ran out of red blocks since I had them all.

[FX-GTZ]

Wow whose the douchebag that deleted my post? I'll just repeat myself then:

As long as i get more income then you, then ***** yeah man!

[adam_91vn]

^^

Maybe it was something to do with the forum downtime dipshit

[Super Sleuth]

it seems my post also did not escape the horrors of modification.

[aubergine]

Let's have no more curiosity concerning this bizarre cover-up.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I noticed the new blog had a proper favicon and now the forums default favicon has disappeared!

COULD IT BE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW?!

[Stevorooni]

Really Blake wants pep back so that he can relaunch haveyoupeppedblaketoday.com and rake in the profits.

[JimmyKane]

re: thisIf you guys have anything you want to see in the rep system feel free to voice your opinions in the thread in feedback.Can I please see naked Eva Green pictures in the pep system ta

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I'm here to collect my debt people.

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q321/fishfishmonkeyhat/My%20Photoshops/PepPal.png

[Sweating Bullets]

Closing this thread as we now have pep back. Thanks to everyone for their opinions and to the admins for making it happen.