Microsoft E3 Presser 2010

[Natrak]

Anyone else going to be watching this? Thought I might as well start up a thread for discussion.

Should start at around 3am. Here's some links for when the time comes:

http://e3.gamespot.com/press-conference/microsoft-e3/?tag=content_nav%3Bvideo%3Bmicrosoft

http://au.e3.ign.com/2010/live/

Can't find a direct link to Gametrailers' feed, but here's their E3 page http://www.gametrailers.com/e3/

[AranchineD]

You know what, I ain't tired yet, I might stay up for this.

[Natrak]

Thanks mang.

Looks like it starts at 3:30am now :/

http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/presskits/xbox/liveEvent.aspx

Gametrailers are running a pre-show thing at Heatz' link, though, if you're looking for something to fill time.

[AranchineD]

Well, thanks to that pre-show I now know of Rock of the Dead, which sounds completely brilliant.

[Natrak]

Yeah, that did sound pretty cool. NPH

[T Strife]

I am going to hate myself for watching this come tomorrow.

E3, World Cup matches, and the NBA finals all in the one week (and all at inconvenient times) is just nuts.

[Fenrir]

Ah, figured Eurogamer would be doing a text feed again.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/microsoft-e3-2010-conference-live-report

[AranchineD]

Well, actually getting to fly the gunship in Black Ops, that's alright, I suppose. Even if it was disobeying every single law of physics. Everything else looked pretty average though.

[Natrak]

Okay, Black Ops impressed me. I thought the opening scene looked really well done, and the action in the hind looked like a lot of fun.

[AranchineD]

That boy Raiden sure do cut alright. That sword system looked like what Die By The Sword did all those years ago, but a billion times better. Is that using Kinect though?

[Natrak]

Holy shit I am marking out for Gears so much right now. LAMBANT BERSERKER!!!!!!!

Yeah, Rising seemed almost like it would have some Kinect/Move implementation.

[AranchineD]

Looks like a bit of Lost Planet influence, intentional or otherwise SHOOT THE GLOWING POINTS ON THE INSECT LOOKING THINGS. I loved the chainsaw combo move where one of the other guys kicked the enemy away after chainsawing and it exploded near a bunch of other enemies.

[Natrak]

Reach campaign looked awesome.

[AranchineD]

So Halo: Reach has a sprint button and knife combos.














Oh, and playable space battles.

[Natrak]

Playable space battle gave me chills. Not that it's anything new, but the thought of something like that finally in a Halo game really excited me.

[AranchineD]

Yeah I did say battles, didn't I? I hope it is more than one, or if it is one I hope it isn't just a big cocktease of an awesome space dogfight.

[Natrak]

That knife combo was just an extended assassination animation btw. Done by holding down B when meleeing from behind.

[AranchineD]

Ahhh. Well that's kinda lame then.

I just realised now by the time Reach comes out I'll be all over the shock of space battle/s being in the game and it'll be a bit less exciting, f*** this is why I don't watch these things!

[Natrak]

Aaand it went all Nintendo press conference.

[AranchineD]

Making the mexican wave looked more fun than the running shit.

Kinectimals is the worst name for a video game I have ever heard.

CAR RACING WITHOUT A WHEEL IS STUPID GO AWAY

[AranchineD]

YOU CAN'T RIDE ON CLOUDS ON A RAFT MICROSOFT


THAT'S NOT HOW CLOUDS WORK http://www.google.jpg

[AranchineD]

And now Kinect Fit.

So I guess all the fun stuff has been shown now, maybe time for bed.

[AranchineD]

So the Xbox Slim is confirmed. That mock-up photo was right on the money. For the US, same price as the current model. Built in Wi-Fi.

And it's shipping today

[Cerebral]

Wireless-n, same price, out now (ish).

Wow, that's really not bad. Sort of want (if there was something actually fundamentally wrong with my 360).

[Natrak]

360 redesign has a bay for the removable HDD, don't know if they're still doing the whole 360 branded hard drive thing or if you'll be able to slot in your own. They're dropping the price of the Elite and dropping the price of the Arcade.

Kinect doesn't need an extra power supply if plugged into the redesigned 360, but will if connected to the original 360.

[Cerebral]

The dude on GTTV actually took out the new HDD, looks nothing like the existing ones.

Edit: Oh, I see what you mean. They probably won't I would imagine. (didn't stop me and trin though :))

[Natrak]

Aye, it didn't look like a standard HDD either, as far as I could tell. So I guess things don't look good on that front.

[Cerebral]

Also existing 360's will need an additional power plug for Natal. I'm guessing the new one has a special plug for it, hence 'Kinect Ready'

[Cerebral]

Also I'm going to be honest - I was very impressed by most of the Natal stuff. Except for that creepy as **** animal game.

[Nic Xtreme]

That was mostly shit. So what are Rare doing then?

I'm no Halo fan, but the greatest things about that conference were (1) Halo Reach has SPACE COMBAT OMG (2) MGS: Rising, looking fantastic, and (3) the Sega Saturn-esque "GUYS IT OUT 2DAY LOL", which was brilliant.

I'll definitely be getting Natal, it seems, as I will be murdered in a domestic attack if I don't pick up that Tai-chi/Yoga game (unless EA Sports Active 2 is better?).

EDIT: Oh what Rare is making that Natal sports game ;_;

[/backslash]

So what are the differences for the 360 Slim? I missed out on that segment. Seems like bigger HDD + built-in wifi are the only differences? Like the PS3, I prefer the original designs compared to the slims. Instead of being appealing like the DS into DS Lite its like watching Gameboy turn into VirtualBoy

Also I heard that the PS3 may be releasing a new model of the slim with a faster wifi. Damnit, just after I bought mine :(

[Nic Xtreme]

So what are the differences for the 360 Slim? I missed out on that segment. Seems like bigger HDD + built-in wifi are the only differences? Like the PS3, I prefer the original designs compared to the slims. Instead of being appealing like the DS into DS Lite its like watching Gameboy turn into VirtualBoy

Also I heard that the PS3 may be releasing a new model of the slim with a faster wifi. Damnit, just after I bought mine :(

I think I read this earlier in the thread as I was skimming, but Natal needs an extra power plug on the old 360, whereas it seems to be integrated into the one plug for the new one. The new one also probably doesn't have the RRoD.

It's also very sexy - that Italian ad was not flattering at all.

[Natrak]

It's a bigger HDD (removable, but different to those found on the side of standard 360s) and built in N wi-fi. It's also 'whisper quiet'. One would assume it'd be the most reliable 360 to date, but that's just guesswork.

I must say, I actually like the look of the redesign now that I've gotten a decent look. Although I probably like the old look better.

[Xanafalgue]

Redesign looks really, really nice. Will buy. Out this week here?... :(

The conference was okay; not the complete disaster I thought it might be. CoD opening the show went on for too long and was boring - shant be buying Black Ops. Gears 3 looked amazing and Halo: Reach was STUN WOW GORGE.

Annoyed at the lack of 'hardcore' games.. MGS Rising was decent but where the **** is my Lost Odyssey 2? Are MS waiting for the actual E3 event to begin before we get to see any new games?

As for the Kinect games... I'd probably pick up Kinect Adventures (which looked pretty cool), and the dance game :D That Fitness Evolved thing was pretty impressive too.

[Xanafalgue]

I also felt sorry for Don Mattrick. Personality bypass plus.

[/backslash]

've gotten a decent look. Although I probably like the old look better.
Does it look any better when its laying down? I can't imagine any angle where one could deem it as 'classy'. Feels like its trying way too hard to appeal to younger audiences

[Stevorooni]

New 360 looks ok, Kinect looks like the Wii. Was there a price for Kinect?

[Nic Xtreme]

New 360 looks ok, Kinect looks like the Wii. Was there a price for Kinect?

Not yet. Which is probably bad. GAME UK just sent me an email "Place your Kinect deposit now!"

Also the new 360 is launching July 16th in the UK, so it could be around then for us, too.

[TAT]

I've heard in the realm of $180.

[banjoeskimo]

New Xbox, sitting alongside the Kinect:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/06/500x_xbox_360_slim.jpg

[TAT]

engadget unboxing:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Devest8r/S10/1276548250542.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Devest8r/S10/1276548298707.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Devest8r/S10/1276548365974.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Devest8r/S10/1276548492559.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Devest8r/S10/1276548540292.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Devest8r/S10/1276548671041.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Devest8r/S10/1276548717868.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Devest8r/S10/1276548846444.jpg

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Ugly!

No sir I will not have it!

And what's with the gloss?!

[freeradical]

Finally, an optical out port!! And an increase in the number of USB ports (3 back 2 front). Touch sensitive 'disc tray' and 'power' buttons.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

While the design idea behind the old 360 was "inhale" this kinda says to me "doubled over after a gut-punch".

[Lazlow]

So have they repositioned the GPU/Disc Drive combo that was so problematic in original design?

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

*Somewhere at the slim engineering office*

"Wait.. did we.. ****!"

[Clockw0rk]

I quite like it... New HDD though? Lame. Hope it comes with a transfer cable.
Still, I've got the MW2 360, no point in upgrading yet. Very disappointing to see it's still got an external brick too.

[StorminNorman]

What's that weird proprietary port that looks like an oddly-shaped USB port above the ethernet port?

Also, is it just me, or does the HDD look like it's in its own proprietary case again? Please tell me that's just a caddy, and that we can indeed put any HDD we want in the thing. I really don't want to have to put up with Microsoft's daylight robbery pricing for HDDs anymore.

[HiredMan]

What's that weird proprietary port that looks like an oddly-shaped USB port above the ethernet port?

It almost looks like a Firewire port.... weird.

*strokes beard*

[Stevorooni]

I wonder how long before the first picture of a 360 slim with RRoD

* strokes HiredMan's beard *

[Creedy]

Holy shit, I want an X360 slim, it's sexy as all hell!

[freeradical]

Also, is it just me, or does the HDD look like it's in its own proprietary case again? Please tell me that's just a caddy, and that we can indeed put any HDD we want in the thing. I really don't want to have to put up with Microsoft's daylight robbery pricing for HDDs anymore.

Its microsoft! It's proprietary!! (at least thats what i heard on kotaku's unboxing video)

http://kotaku.com/5563360/video-walkthrough-of-the-new-xbox-360

[tau]

What's that weird proprietary port that looks like an oddly-shaped USB port above the ethernet port?

Probably for Kinect.

[Stevorooni]

Setup Step 3: Connect the Kinect peripheral into the Kinect connection port

[adam_91vn]

I like it. If my current xbox karks it I will pick one up.

[StorminNorman]

Its microsoft! It's proprietary!! (at least thats what i heard on kotaku's unboxing video)

Blargh. I hate Microsoft. :(

Probably for Kinect.

Apparently so. (http://gizmodo.com/5563153/the-new-xbox-360-is-smaller-and-blacker-but-the-same-price)

According to Gizmodo, it's a USB port with extra power, so you don't need to use an external power supply with the Kinect sensor.

I don't think I'd buy Kinect if it required yet another power brick, to be honest. (Well, that and the apparent US$149 price tag makes it way, way too expensive for what it is).

[Stevorooni]

I'll buy one when my current 360 inevitibly dies. I guess with a different hard drive picking up a cheap Arcade is out of the question, I just hope there's an easy way to transfer all of your data.

[Hyperblau]

I'll probably upgrade to this new one, still sitting on a 20gb with no hdmi.

[AranchineD]

According to 'that Microsoft guy', 'Kingdoms' is a 3rd person action game kinda like God Of War. So yeah, looking forward to seeing how that turns out.

And the new 360 is coming out here about July 1, and I'll probably be trying to get one as soon as possible, mostly because
still sitting on a 20gb with no hdmi.

Those Slim units are going to come with a transfer cable right? Right?!

[Lazlow]

Good thing I didn't go out and buy a cheap arcade unit on the weekend!

[Hyperblau]

Those Slim units are going to come with a transfer cable right? Right?!

Being sold for $20us

[StorminNorman]

I take back everything bad I ever said about Kinect:

Child of Eden. (http://kotaku.com/5563293/this-is-basically-rez-for-the-playstation-move) Do want.

[NiB]

Thank god I didn't pick up an arcade like I wanted to last week.

I'll grab the xbox slim, sit it next to my ps3 slim and mock the other fat consoles in my house

[Slippery]

Surgeon, buy me a 360 slim, thanks.

[Creedy]

Can someone explain this whole HDD transfer thing to me?
If/when I buy this new slim, how do I make all my save games and XBLA games transfer to my new X360?

[StorminNorman]

You plug a transfer cable into your XBox and your old HDD, then you run the CD that comes with it and it magically copies everything across.

If you're changing hardware as well (ie switching 360s) you'll need to do a license transfer via the website. It's a remarkably painless process.

(Insert amusing jab about Microsoft's consumer-hostile obsession with DRM here.)

[Brilliantred219]

Amusing jab about Microsoft's consumer-hostile obsession with DRM

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

If you're changing hardware as well (ie switching 360s) you'll need to do a license transfer via the website. It's a remarkably painless process.

Unless you've already done it this year, in which case you'll have to wait to next year.

[adam_91vn]

Unless you've already done it this year, in which case you'll have to wait to next year.


Or you just call them.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

zomgwut?!

I'll get back to you about this when I have to buy a slim within a year!

[Xanafalgue]

I take back everything bad I ever said about Kinect:

Child of Eden. (http://kotaku.com/5563293/this-is-basically-rez-for-the-playstation-move) Do want.

That was amazing.

[freeradical]

Great if you've got a wall sized tv.

[Cubby]

So built in wifi, I bet that doesn't mean a reasonable price on the wifi attachment though.

[freeradical]

Ethernet cable, the only way to go! (yeah yeah, i know, 20 meters of cat5 cable strewn across the floor-blah blah blah).

[/backslash]

And what's with the gloss?!
At least it has gloss, unlike the PS3 Slim. I can barely tell mine is even in the tv unit

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Devest8r/S10/1276548846444.jpg

Now that I've seen a real photo of it, it doesn't look too bad although I'd still like to see a proper closeup photo of it laying down. Is that transformer smaller or more/less the same?

edit: Hmm, $450. Was hoping it'd be cheaper even though its 'better' than the Elite

http://www.ebgames.com.au/xbox360-150845-Xbox-360-S-250GB-Console-Xbox-360

[freeradical]

This vid shows it laying down in the traditional position http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-xbox-360/101403

[SOX]

hahahahhahahaahahaaha $450 **** that

[Xanafalgue]

$450? Microsoft is pushing their luck.. but I want one. Control pad has a chrome guide button now... err.. I need all the justification I can get considering I have 2 working 360's in my house :D

From EB:
http://images.ebgames.com.au/images/detail/150845_comparison.gif

Video of Child of Eden being played with Kinect at the Ubi conference

X_K818-zc4g

[Clockw0rk]

Does anyone have a dimensions comparison so we can see how "slim" it actually is? Honestly it looks about the same size, just angular and glossy.
I'm guessing the power brick is the same as the one for the MW2 console - smaller and lighter than the old bricks but not significantly so.

[AranchineD]

Capacitive touch is like the power and disc eject buttons on the PS3, right?

[freeradical]

Does anyone have a dimensions comparison so we can see how "slim" it actually is? Honestly it looks about the same size, just angular and glossy.
I'm guessing the power brick is the same as the one for the MW2 console - smaller and lighter than the old bricks but not significantly so.

See LARZ's post above yours for dimensions

[/backslash]

hahahahhahahaahahaaha $450 **** that
Tbh I just paid $500 for my 250gb PS3 Slim and that's got much less appealing features. But if you reflect $450 on the Elite's $399 (with a bunch of bundled games) it does seem overpriced for what should normally be cheaper but I guess that built-in wifi & chrome & touch controls knocks it up a little

http://images.ebgames.com.au/images/detail/150845_comparison.gif

[freeradical]

Capacitive touch is like the power and disc eject buttons on the PS3, right?

Yep, like the PS3 fat.

[AranchineD]

Tbh I just paid $500 for my 250gb PS3 Slim and that's got much less appealing features. But if you reflect $450 on the Elite's $399 (with a bunch of bundled games) it does seem overpriced for what should normally be cheaper but I guess that built-in wifi & chrome & touch controls knocks it up a little

The 360 Slim (is it going to get another name or is that it?) could also very well come with a bunch of bundled games, if not immediately then definitely quite soon.

[Cubby]

I'm a little surprised they didn't chuck a blu-ray drive in it.

[Stevorooni]

That would be marketing suicide for them

- Admitting that Sony was right to put a blu ray drive in
- Refusing to put games on blu ray because it would splinter the user base
OR
- Putting games on blu ray, splintering the user base

[Lazlow]

They're also trying to push a Video on Demand service.

[Stevorooni]

Should have thrown a HD-DVD drive in there

Yeah we still think it's better

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I can get this in white right guys?

[Stevorooni]

Available only in purple

[Lazlow]

The best flavour!

[nintendo]

Jesus chirst they made it look worse.....

[TAT]

The dimensions are curiously similiar to the 360 v1.0

The massively reduced power requirements are a definite plus

[Xanafalgue]

Slim unboxing http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/xbox-360-250gb-first-unboxing/

[Lazlow]

I think two unboxings have already been posted >_>

[Xanafalgue]

I will be posting my unboxing next.

[AranchineD]

Is your box a slim black box though?

[Xanafalgue]

Is your box a slim black box though?

No but I came in one...


...

[AranchineD]

http://www.hyper.com.au/forums/image.php?u=1468&dateline=1275580017

[Xanafalgue]

http://www.hecklerspray.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/gary-coleman1.jpg

[Stevorooni]

Apparently you can use USB sticks to transfer data from the old console to the new console (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/06/how-to-transfer-your-old-xbox-360-data-to-the-new-xbox-360/#more-398373)

120gig drive, 8gig stick, you only have to do it 15 times!

[AranchineD]

Well I only have 10 gig of data on my console, so that's the perfect solution for me.

[StorminNorman]

The 360 Slim (is it going to get another name or is that it?)

From what I can tell, the official product name seems to be "XBox 360 250GB".

[Stevorooni]

Xbox Forgetaboutouroldchunkyhighfaultmodel

[Cerebral]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6705127/2vl7gq9.gif

[AyatollaofRocknRolla]

No big surprises there, but still a good showing. Reach looks amazing, and gears (lambent berserker, holy shit!) I must say metal gear rising looks a bit WTF? to me.

Kinetic has fairly typical stuff so far, but its looking like it out Wii's the Wii. At any rate child of eden looks awesome.

[Spudzilla]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6705127/2vl7gq9.gif

I miss Shawn already

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

He certainly never neglected the balls.