3DS vs NGP - Which has blown your socks off?

[Lazlow]

Now we have a clearer picture of whay Sony and Nintendo are offering its time to pick sides.

[SOX]

I want an iPad but I don't want an iPad. I think the NGP will fill that gap nicely.

[AranchineD]

3DS

I actually like playing videogames

[Lex]

They're both worthless gimmicks. But at least the NGP is interesting, 3DS is a joke.

[TrinityJayOne]

My vote definitely goes for the NGP, but at the same time my socks are still firmly wrapped around my feet. It's good but nothing I've seen so far has been worth writing home about.

[Lazlow]

I've never bought into the Cult of Nintendo, with their major franchises never really capturing my interest.

I genuinely feel the NGP presnts more promise than the 3DS, which to me simply feels like another DS with a gimmick.

[dinopoke]

NGP sounds superior as a machine but the 3DS will probably end up with better pricing and more (good) games.

[Beinkasaurus Rex]

The NGP looks awesome. Probably that.

[AranchineD]

look at these $onyfiends

we getting metal gear solid, you jealous bros :cool:

[Lazlow]

Poor, predictable Aran. Always takes rock.

[Rainbow7]

3DS

I actually like playing videogames

+1

The 3DS will outsell the NGP by 4:1.

[Gunblade89]

Well the 3DS has some games announced that i'm looking foward to, but i want to eventually buy both.

[Nic Xtreme]

I'm keen for both.

While I don't care much for what sounds like very fiddly 3D, the eShop, analogue stick and what will hopefully be over a hundred quality games (if it follows the DS' trend, of course) make it my personal most-wanted. However, the region locking and battery life are lame.

The NGP looks fantastic and sounds like it has a lot of potential - and 3G - but I'm sceptical about the software lineup (It has the horsepower to handle ports of games I'm already playing on my 360, hooray -_-), the battery life, and the controls (dual analogue or not, those sticks look an awful lot like the shitty PSP ones). It better be region-free, too. Then I'll be sold on it.

[Beinkasaurus Rex]

To be honest I barely looked at the list of games for the NGP. **** that.
3DS looks ****ing solid.

[SOX]

dual analogue or not, those sticks look an awful lot like the shitty PSP ones


Except the part where if you had bothered to read anything you would of realised they are like dual shock ones unlike the PSP/3DS sliding stick thing.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Yes I think we all know the 3DS will be better.

[FrozenSoul80]

3DS has Professor Layton and Phoenix Wright.

[Nic Xtreme]

Except the part where if you had bothered to read anything you would of realised they are like dual shock ones unlike the PSP/3DS sliding stick thing.

I would have. Regardless, PS3 Dual Shock ones are still shit for dual analogue.

[SOX]

So you don't want analogue sticks then?

[Nic Xtreme]

Single-stick games are fine. Dual analogue games are where the problem lies, and there haven't been many good dual analogue controllers.

Good sticks:
http://rocketdock.com/images/screenshots/xbox360controller.png

Bad sticks:
http://ps3open.co.cc/2.pnghttp://media.gdgt.com/img/product/23/i01/gamecube-controller-1vcj-50.jpg

Unless Sony improve their sticks. Such as the way they did with the PS3 ones over the PS2 ones.

[JubeiSaotome]

All of those sticks are good!??!

Also, I am impressed by both of them, however the PSP2 has my backing.

[Beinkasaurus Rex]

The GCN controller was fantastic.

[Lazlow]

Single-stick games are fine. Dual analogue games are where the problem lies, and there haven't been many good dual analogue controllers.

Good sticks:
http://rocketdock.com/images/screenshots/xbox360controller.png

Bad sticks:
http://ps3open.co.cc/2.pnghttp://media.gdgt.com/img/product/23/i01/gamecube-controller-1vcj-50.jpg

Unless Sony improve their sticks. Such as the way they did with the PS3 ones over the PS2 ones.

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee509/reebzmuleboon/Community/CommunityS02E13HDTVXviD-LOLavi_snapshot_1103_20110128_193051.jpg

[Nic Xtreme]

All the sticks were perfectly fine for single stick games (GCN was the best ftr). Dual analogue games, such as FPS, were hampered by the bottom two.

I'm really interested to see if devs can implemented a DS-like FPS control scheme using the back touchscreen.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I would have. Regardless, PS3 Dual Shock ones are still shit for dual analogue.

Irregardless.

[Rainbow7]

The GCN controller was fantastic.
Yep.

All PlayStation controllers are shit, though.

[9warbane]

I'd go with 3DS (not that I'll get one) for that fact that it's Nintendo so it'll have games.

[SOX]

Yep.

All PlayStation controllers are shit, though.

Check out this guy.
****ing warbane

[Allick]

I've played my DS for hundreds of hours, and my PSP for maybe a dozen hours, so based on that I've gotta say 3DS (although I'll probably get neither).

[Stevorooni]

The NGP has impressed me more, but the 3DS I think will be harder to tell until I actually play one and see how well the 3D effect works. At the moment screens and videos just show graphics that the PSP has been giving us for years.

[Queenie]

I don't have a 360 but I'll probably buy one because I still want to play banjo kazooie 3. And xbox arcade shit.

But the psp2 will be good for sitting in my bed playing games and going on the internet hopefully.

I liked both consoles, but honestly when comparing ds and psp i prefer psp at the moment because the ds games DONT GO DOWN IN PRICE EVER.

I still haven't played the two zelda games on it because i'm not paying 60 dollars for an old game.

[Jay]

Or for a new game, clearly.

[Stevorooni]

I bought them brand new and didn't pay $60.

It was $59.

[AranchineD]

The two DS Zelda games are terrible anyway

[Stevorooni]

Well at least now we'll have a nice safe remake instead of them being silly and trying new things.

[AranchineD]

Oh right, because they'd never done Link in a boat before

[Queenie]

they'll put him in a plane next

or since zelda has steam now maybe they'll put link to work in chimneys since he's like 8.

[Gunblade89]

I think i bought Phantom Hourglass for around $40, but DS games do generally seem stuck around the $50-60 mark. Best to look out for preowned DS games i've got alot of bargains.

[TrinityJayOne]

The 360 sticks are great because they're concave, that's all. The original Dual Analog Controller actually had these as well, but for some retarded reason they were scrapped when the Dual Shock came out and changed to convex.

FUN FACT TRIVIA TIME!

The original Japanese version of the Dual Analog Controller had the vibration that we know and love in the Dual Shocks, but was removed for the everywhere-else version as the Japs thought it detracted from the analog controls. Not everyone agreed though, and there are a small handful of games that have secret (and archaic) vibration support despite pre-dating the Dual Shock. Porsche Challenge is one such game, and it will cause a Dual Shock to vibrate despite (just) pre-dating it and the case having no mention of vibration support whatsoever. Apparently the work of a renegade developer.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Most even poll result ever.

[TrinityJayOne]

Allick, AranchineD, BB2K, fishfishmonkeyhat accidentally missed the first poll option, probably because their eyes are ****ed from playing too many pixelated 3D games on a postage stamp-sized screen.

[AranchineD]

Allick, AranchineD, BB2K, fishfishmonkeyhat accidentally missed the first poll option, probably because their eyes are ****ed from playing too many pixelated 3D games on a postage stamp-sized screen.

Nah man, I don't have a PSP.

[Lazlow]

The 360 sticks are great because they're concave, that's all. The original Dual Analog Controller actually had these as well, but for some retarded reason they were scrapped when the Dual Shock came out and changed to convex.

FUN FACT TRIVIA TIME!

The original Japanese version of the Dual Analog Controller had the vibration that we know and love in the Dual Shocks, but was removed for the everywhere-else version as the Japs thought it detracted from the analog controls. Not everyone agreed though, and there are a small handful of games that have secret (and archaic) vibration support despite pre-dating the Dual Shock. Porsche Challenge is one such game, and it will cause a Dual Shock to vibrate despite (just) pre-dating it and the case having no mention of vibration support whatsoever. Apparently the work of a renegade developer.

Fun Fact #2

I entered a V-Rally + Dual Analog competition through Hyper or OAPSM, and won, but by the time winners were announced they had pulled Dual Analog support from V-Rally, so the magazine sent me a NEGCON instead.

[Xanafalgue]

3DS for sure. Mario Kart > anything the PSP2 will have to offer. I've also never played Zelda: OoT, so I'm looking forward to the remake.

[aubergine]

I'm too old for handheld wars anymore.

Both of them are too expensive.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Well the 3DS has double the votes now, so I'm officially calling it for Nintendo!

[aceaussie]

Well the 3DS has double the votes now, so I'm officially calling it for Nintendo!
In my opinion, one thing Nintendo has always done right is their handhelds, they always have a solid line up of games and even when i was a kid Pokemon was all I needed.

I'll probably get the NGP if a few games come out that interest me, however as of now i will only be owning a 3DS, it has a solid line up already Street Fighter 4, Legend of Zelda OoT, Starfox, Kingdom Hearts 3D, Mario Kart, Phoenix Wright x Professor Layton, Resident evil and the not confirmed but obvious choices of more Zelda, Final Fantasy, Pokemon, Mario and various other titles.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

Welcome to the winning side!

[Queenie]

one thing i've really liked about both previous handhelds, the psp and ds, and something that I hope continues, is the large amount of GOOD jrpgs on them, be they remakes or new.

[Lex]

Oh god, people are still buyin into "that ninty magic". Jesus ****, I don't care how nostalgic it makes you, it's just ****ing Mario kart.

[JubeiSaotome]

Blind faith, the amount of people saying "It's Nintendo, so it must be good" forgetting that a few weeks ago they were bitching and moaning about region locking, friend codes and battery life. As soon as a competitor comes into the picture, it's a different story.

Both are appealing, eventually I'll get the two of them. For now, I can play the next Pokemon on my current DS.

[AranchineD]

Oh god, people are still buyin into "that ninty magic". Jesus ****, I don't care how nostalgic it makes you, it's just ****ing Mario kart.

Professor Layton X Phoenix Wright

[FX-GTZ]

Im sick of nintendo coming up with gimmicky new so called features, there's nothing new about a camera, there's nothing new about 3D, there's nothing new, ever.

[Rambo]

At least it's nice graphics. That's all I want.

Annnnddd 2 posts up, that's going to blow my mind.

EDIT: But in saying that, I voted before I had a proper look at the PSP2. If it has graphics that rival the PS3 I will be sporting a chub fo sho.

[Stevorooni]

Nintendo DS: Now with new hat!

[Watchers]

Im sick of nintendo coming up with gimmicky new so called features, there's nothing new about a camera, there's nothing new about 3D, there's nothing new, ever.

lol wut

[JubeiSaotome]

At least it's nice graphics. That's all I want.

Annnnddd 2 posts up, that's going to blow my mind.

EDIT: But in saying that, I voted before I had a proper look at the PSP2. If it has graphics that rival the PS3 I will be sporting a chub fo sho.

It wont have graphics that will rival the PS3. I don't understand where you heard that it would. They've been saying it will be like a PS3 but portable, likely meaning the PSN aspects of it. If anything it will be between the PS2 and PS3 graphically.

[TrinityJayOne]

At any rate the visuals should be crisp as all buggery seeing as the resolution has doubled but the screen size has not.

[Rambo]

It wont have graphics that will rival the PS3. I don't understand where you heard that it would. They've been saying it will be like a PS3 but portable, likely meaning the PSN aspects of it. If anything it will be between the PS2 and PS3 graphically.

http://au.psp.ign.com/articles/114/1146376p1.html

Sony said the NGP rivals the graphical power of the PlayStation 3, and the company proved it. Sony released a trailer that showed off several key titles, including: Hot Shots Golf Next (http://psp.ign.com/objects/098/098901.html), Killzone (http://psp.ign.com/objects/098/098899.html), LittleBigPlanet, WipEout (http://psp.ign.com/objects/098/098910.html), Resistance (http://psp.ign.com/objects/098/098912.html), Hustle Kings (http://psp.ign.com/objects/098/098916.html), and Uncharted Portable (http://psp.ign.com/objects/019/019533.html).
Sometimes I just like to make things up.

[AranchineD]

IGN

Oh, there's your problem

[Stevorooni]

In terms or raw power it won't match, but to present something similar to a PS3 scaled down to a portable screen it wouldn't need as much grunt as a PS3 anyway.

The PSP wasn't as powerful as a PS2 but still managed to present PS2 quality games on the handheld. Sometimes there was a little more popup (hello GTA games) but it was roughly equivalent.

I'm expecting a similar deal with the NGP.

[Jay]

Of more interest - to me at least - is how they will integrate the touch screen and the rear control methods. As someone who has long had an interest in rear control methods of course. :p

[Rambo]

Im sick of nintendo coming up with gimmicky new so called features, there's nothing new about a camera, there's nothing new about 3D, there's nothing new, ever.

How about dual screen gaming? With the bottom being a touch screen?

Douchebag.

[sausage]

Before God there was nothing so everything from 6000 years ago is new as.

[JubeiSaotome]

How about dual screen gaming? With the bottom being a touch screen?

Douchebag.

Game & Watch did it.

[BB2K]

Allick, AranchineD, BB2K, fishfishmonkeyhat accidentally missed the first poll option, probably because their eyes are ****ed from playing too many pixelated 3D games on a postage stamp-sized screen.

waaah waaaah I bought a portable with no games so now i'll justify buying its next generation by making fun of the portable with good games.

[SOX]

How about dual screen gaming? With the bottom being a touch screen?

Douchebag.

My GCN + GBA SP did it.

[FX-GTZ]

How about dual screen gaming? With the bottom being a touch screen?

Douchebag.
Game and Watch did it first, again, nothing new.

[Vicious]

Both look extremely awesome in their own respects. I mean seriously, I wouldn't have imagined Nintendo being the first to 3D with no glasses handheld. Equally, the tech specs of the NGP is drool worthy.

On the other hand, the prices are going to be a kill joy. I also have a huge DS catalog I need to finish anyway, so the odds of me buying one anytime soon is like nill. Last thing I need is another situation of games needing to be played overflowing. I have PC games going all the way back to 2000 I need to play, tons of 360/Wii games, and another two games for the PS3 (most of the "blockbuster" games I can usually beat in 10-12 hours so I'd just hire a lot of them).

Combined with my other hobbies . . . I question if I should even consider myself a gamer in some respects anymore. I think life finally caught up with me >_>'

[TrinityJayOne]

Wasn't GBA SP the first clamshell one? I do have many memories of FF:CC using that setup! Awful, awful memories of a shit game with a mechanic that completely removes one person from the action.

[Cerebral]

3DS

I actually like playing videogames

This.

[sausage]

Nintendo games are too expensive and I'm too old for all this piracy malarkey so that's the only reason why I will stay away from a DS. Mind you, if sony make me go through too many hoops to play my UMD MHFU they can go and jump in the lake.




























































A lake of sperm and sewage mixed together.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

That's a hell of a lake.

[VanAce]

Don't drink the water.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

I hear it's mostly sperm and sewage.

[CrimsonFury]

Mind you, if sony make me go through too many hoops to play my UMD MHFU they can go and jump in the lake.

There is no UMD backwards compatibility of any kind on NGP. The only way you will be playing that game on NGP is by purchasing it again as a download from the PSN store (assuming that title is available as a download, not all PSP games are).

[sausage]

well then it looks like I'll have more money to spend on 360 games!

[9warbane]

Doesn't the MH game have a really low chance of even coming out of Japan?

[sausage]

the customer is always right

[SOX]

There is no UMD backwards compatibility of any kind on NGP. The only way you will be playing that game on NGP is by purchasing it again as a download from the PSN store (assuming that title is available as a download, not all PSP games are).

It's $15 on the AU PSN store.

[sausage]

mate I can get a tinnie of cannabis for that kind of money.

Sony's got to get real.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

I'm looking forward to the 3DS because I am 5 years old.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

Allick, AranchineD, BB2K, fishfishmonkeyhat accidentally missed the first poll option, probably because their eyes are ****ed from playing too many pixelated 3D games on a postage stamp-sized screen.

That's what they're playing their 360s on?

[Tukenstein]

look at these $onyfiends

we getting metal gear solid, you jealous bros :cool:

UXSkncxYKic

Not exactly proof that MGS is coming to NGP, but very promising nonetheless.

EDIT!
Oh, it actually is proof. Whops. =p

[Lazlow]

Doesn't the MH game have a really low chance of even coming out of Japan?

The last two (Freedom Unite, Tri) have come out here.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

UXSkncxYKic

Not exactly proof that MGS is coming to NGP, but very promising nonetheless.

EDIT!
Oh, it actually is proof. Whops. =p

I see it's called MGS. Ours is called MGS3.

That's at least 2 better.

[Tukenstein]

Touché, Blake. Snake Eater is way better than the bollocks I just showed off. The 'Naked Sample' part of the title has me worried though.

[igotnewsuper8systemWRONG!]

On NGP I will be able to play the ps1 version of MGS1. Suck it haters.

[sausage]

Minecraft: Stealth Edition

[CrimsonFury]

I see it's called MGS. Ours is called MGS3.

That's at least 2 better.

Err what? The footage from the Trailer is clear from the start of MGS4.

[fishfishmonkeyhat]

They didn't call it MGS4, they called it MGS.

This was made clear in my post.

[jons2ann]

Both are making me hard and blowing my socks off.

[Kotche]

I'm getting a 3DS because it can emulate NGP and PS3 games