Hotel Dusk - Room 215

[Conky]

An adventure detective style game that looks pretty cool..

Screens and Video (http://e3src.nintendo.com/games/ds/hotel_dusk_room_215/)

Presented in the same side on style as Brain Training.

[Bronze]

It's being made by CING, same dudes behind Another Code on DS, and featuring a similar style of mystery story-driven gameplay apparently.

I enjoyed Another Code, so we'll see how this pans out.

[Jay]

Yes, Another Code was a lot of fun (if short, which is certainly not a problem for me, rather an observation) and really used the DS's unique capabilities well. The video looks interesting - vaguely reminiscent of Farenheit I thought - so this could be one to watch out for. Thank God for the DS - it (and the upcoming Wii (and to a lesser extent Live Arcade)) has really rejuvenated my interest in my favourite hobby (which, of course, is pottery).

[AyatollaofRocknRolla]

Another Code was good, although a somewhat forgetable experience. I'll keep an eye on this one though. It'll probably be worth playing.

[aubergine]

Super Bump - I'm pretty sure I saw a local release date for this, which was very soon. I'll try and track it down. Totally must have for me, don't even need a review.

***edit***

It was Palgn: (http://palgn.com.au/article.php?id=6421)

NDS:
17th January 2007 Spiderman Origins Battle for New York
18th January 2007 The Professors Brain Trainer Memory
18th January 2007 Nintendo DS Lite Internet Browser
18th January 2007 The Professors Brain Trainer Logic
18th January 2007 Mario Vs Donkey Kong 2 March Of The Minis
19th January 2007 Arthur and the Invisibles
25th January 2007 Contact
25th January 2007 Petz Hotel
25th January 2007 New Zealand Story
31st January 2007 Steel Horizon

8th February 2007 Avatar : The Legend Of Aang
8th February 2007 Kim Possible Global Gemini
8th February 2007 Crazy Frog Racer
9th February 2007 Micro Machines V4
14th February 2007 Barbie 12 Dancing Princesses
15th February 2007 Super Fruit Fall
15th February 2007 Impossible Mission
22nd February 2007 Hotel Dusk :Room 215
22nd February 2007 Bomberman Land Touch
22nd February 2007 Sudoku Gridmaster
28th February 2007 Bionicles Heroes

1st March 2007 SNK Vs Capcom Card Fighters
1st March 2007 Powerwave Car Charger with USB - White
2nd March 2007 Pro Evolution Soccer 6
2nd March 2007 My Frogger Toy Trials
3rd March 2007 Prey The Stars
9th March 2007 Powerwave Car Charger with USB - Pink
9th March 2007 Powerwave Car Charger with USB - Black
9th March 2007 Xiaolin Showdown
15th March 2007 Shrek's Smash n Crash
15th March 2007 Garfields Nightmare
15th March 2007 Spectrobes
15th March 2007 Bubble Bobble Double Shot
16th March 2007 Castlevania Portrait of Ruin
22nd March 2007 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
22nd March 2007 Chicken Little Ace In Action
23rd March 2007 Lunar Knights
29th March 2007 Monster Puzzle
29th March 2007 Spelling Spree
29th March 2007 Guru Guru Naget
29th March 2007 Labyrinth
29th March 2007 Monster Bomber
29th March 2007 Settlers Heritage of Kings
29th March 2007 Rayman Raving Rabbids
29th March 2007 Deep Labyrinth
29th March 2007 Meet The Robinsons
30th March 2007 YuGiOh GX Spirit Caller

15th May 2007 Death Jnr 2 and the Science Fair of Doom

Hmm, same day as Excite Truck.

[borgster101]

I'll probably pick this up instead of Excite Truck :)

[StompBrother]

My copy will ship as soon as it's released in North America.

Woohoo!

Vertical alignment, here I come!

-Stompy

[Nic Xtreme]

I want this!

But I'll wait for reviews and impressions before I buy...

[LegendaryFake]

Link didnt work for me...

[/backslash]

Link didn't work for me...
Try this instead (http://au.ds.ign.com/objects/827/827002.html) (contains 6 images and 4 videos)

I'll try and track it down. Totally must have for me, don't even need a review.
Same here, ordered mine on the 16th Jan from Play-Asia
There's 1 review so far on Metacritic with 87% from EGM
"With a cast of well-written characters, branching conservations, and a cool interface, this is the adventure the DS has been dying for. [Feb. 2007, p.97]"
Source (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ds/hotelduskroom215)

The DS needs more games like this, it's perfect for the puzzle genre. Someone might want to rename this thread correctly too

[KickyFunkFresh]

Much like aub, this will be a must have for me :)

[Hellion_7]

Hotel Dusk site live (http://www.hoteldusk.com)
Not much there though, gives a few descriptions on the story and a few of the characters.

Feb 22nd couldn't come soon enough.

[borgster101]

Shit! This comes out over here in like a month!! Awesome :D

[Richie]

I'll get this, Another Code was pretty good though I'll finish that before I buy this. I did get tired of it pretty quickly.

[aubergine]

...you need more time to finish Another Code?

[Nic Xtreme]

Hotel Dusk site live (http://www.hoteldusk.com)
Not much there though, gives a few descriptions on the story and a few of the characters.

Feb 22nd couldn't come soon enough.

Why wait that long...

http://www.dvdcrave.com.au/products/product.jsp?pid=33073

[Hellion_7]

No credit card and no money for a direct deposit makes me cry. :cry:

[Richie]

...you need more time to finish Another Code?

I could probably finish it in an hour but I'm a bit bored of it.

[borgster101]

No credit card and no money for a direct deposit makes me cry. :cry:
It's only a month away anyway, not that bad :)

I'm going to wait for the Aussie release because I'll be getting a few games soonish and I dont want too many all at once.

[Manny M]

Is this a sequel to Another Code? Should I play that before this?

I had no idea this genre even existed on the DS. Very excited.

[aubergine]

Not a sequel, a new game from the creators of Another Code.

You should definitely play Another Code some time though if you are into adventure games. It is thoroughly imperfect - mainly that it is too short, but it also has a couple of peculiarities that make you wonder - but as an introduction into what the DS could do for point and click adventuring, it's brilliant. Some people like it less than others, but I loved it, there were puzzles that revolved around the physical nature of the DS itself which were pretty ingenious.

Hopefully Hotel Dusk will maintain the quality with the wrinkles ironed out, perhaps by the hotel laundry lady, perhaps a mysterious, potentially murderous laundry lady.

[Thraxas]

I can't wait for this to come out... I loved Another Code... if this is half as good I'll be pleased (although so far it's looking much better)...

[borgster101]

Is this a sequel to Another Code? Should I play that before this?

I had no idea this genre even existed on the DS. Very excited.
Nope, its not a sequel its just from the same developers :)

From the sounds of it Hotel Dusk is getting a lot more of a positive responce than the mixed responce of Another Code, sounds like Hotel Dusk is the superior game, interestingly you hold the DS like a book Brain Training style in this game :D

[Manny M]

Hopefully Hotel Dusk will maintain the quality with the wrinkles ironed out, perhaps by the hotel laundry lady, perhaps a mysterious, potentially murderous laundry lady.

Eyyy, SPOILER WARNINGS DUDE!

[StompBrother]

Not a sequel Manny. Totally stand alone games. There's been a handful of point n click adventures on the DS actually...

- Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney
- Phoenix Wright Justice For All
- Another Code
- Hotel Dusk Room 215
- Touch Detective

I hope more pnc games make it to the DS. Right now I'm enjoying the quirky cel shaded goodness of Touch Detective. Hotel Dusk should be mine come Monday. Tuesday if I'm lucky.

-Stompy

[aubergine]

The game isn't a sequel Manny.

Just making sure.

[PrattP]

Definitely NOT a sequel.

[aubergine]

Today's Penny-Arcade (http://www.penny-arcade.com/) write up "Hook, Line and Sinker" deals with Hotel Dusk, for those who find Tycho's descriptions of interest. Which should be everyone.

[Manny M]

So, is this game a sequel or what?

[Jickle]

I've been wondering that myself Manny, could 25+ people clarify please?

[Conky]

I've been wondering that myself Manny, could 25+ people clarify please?

I'm over 25 and can clarify that Hotel Dusk is a game.

[aubergine]

Let's ask celebrity Arnold Schwawzennegger:

(rubs his temples)

"It's naaaght a sequal."

[AyatollaofRocknRolla]

Besides if it was a sequal it would be called 'Yet Another Code' .

[borgster101]

It might be a prequel actually ... :P

[Manny M]

:P

Well, I grabbed Another Code the other day, and i'm loving it. A little light on the puzzles so far, but the story is really intriguing, and the overall style of the game is executed perfectly. Gives a real sense of curiosity in regards to what is happening on Blood Edward Island (although I think I may have already predicted the tie in to the main character).

Can't wait to finish this off then and start the sequel ;)

[StompBrother]

I got my copy today courtesy of VG+ and wow I'm impressed. It's a more adult game than Another Code and is VERY heavy on dialogue between characters. The art style is phenomenal, the music is excellent and the 3D environments look great.

Since dialogue is so heavy in the game, you actually have to know when to "press" on a particular topic to eak out some mroe information. Although doing so might irritate the characters and give you a Game Over if they finally give up on co-operating with you. The script is very sharp and characters are fully fledged creations.

I'm still early on so it's still early to really critique the game. But the art style has won me over already.

More as I get deeper.

-Hotel Stomps

[borgster101]

Cheers Stompy, always a fan of your impressions :D

[click here]

Hey guys, Is this a sequel to Another Code?

[Manny M]

Dude, that joke died after attempt 25.

[aubergine]

Gamasutra article (http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20070205/nixon_01.shtml) on the adventure-game possibilities of Wii and DS.

[borgster101]

I'm loving the adventure games on DS, and I'd love to see them on Wii, "point and click" just fits perfect with the Wii ;)

[Gemerald]

Wow seems nice. I never thought the DS would have so many great titles but they are being churned out at a fairly good rate. It's going to be a bitch to come back and buy them all.

[Jickle]

Alright, its out today. I've got a copy, but haven't played it yet. COMMENCE DISCUSSION!

[Bronze]

Alright, its out today. I've got a copy, but haven't played it yet. COMMENCE DISCUSSION!

Ditto. 'cept I got mine yesterday, and proceeded to spend the whole night playing Excite Truck and Crackdown. Once I knock one of those over, I'll get stuck into Hotel Dusk. ;)

[aubergine]

My shop couldn't get Hotel Dusk nor excite truck, but they have a copy of Justice for All so I bought that.

[Jay]

About to pop it in my DS for some late night adventuring. I'll probably post some impressions in the morning. DShaken, not Spoilered, of course. :)

[StompBrother]

Heh, not really adventuring Jay. More like a good read before bed. Still an excellent game and one that will stand out amongst the sea of games on the DS in the future. there's way too many games coming out at the same time. Don't have the time to play them!!!

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!

-Stompy

[Jickle]

The art style in this game is just phenominally cool. I'd still be playing if the battery wasn't charging.

[Jay]

Heh, not really adventuring Jay. More like a good read before bed. Still an excellent game and one that will stand out amongst the sea of games on the DS in the future. there's way too many games coming out at the same time. Don't have the time to play them!!!

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!

-Stompy

Ha ha, you're right. But the art direction helps me overlook the fact that for large chunks of time I am not really doing very much. I was reminded very early on of a scene from the movie 'Big', the Tom Hanks one where he is a little boy in a man's body and he gets a job inventing toys after dancing on a piano with an old man. One of the toys he invents is a digital comic book which offered the reader Choose Your Own Adventure Style choices. Hotel Dusk - at least early on - feels like the natural extension of that idea.

Only thing I'm not too sure about at the moment is the fact that movement is handled by the touch screen but shown (in 3D) on the other screen. With the system being held sideways it's difficult to watch the sweet 3D action - I spend my whole time staring at the rudimentary top down map. Still, very stylish so far, though I stopped not far in to it as I had a 6:30 rise this morning.

[Space_Monkey]

I arrive at University and the very first week I get here both FF XII and Hotel Dusk hit the shelves!

Do'h! Pity me I was once like you!

[Dr Skinnybones]

I arrive at University and the very first week I get here both FF XII and Hotel Dusk hit the shelves!

Do'h! Pity me I was once like you!
Now you're more like me. Boo! to study!

[ProdigalChild]

I don't mind hotel dusk coming out during uni semester. It's probably going to be how i spend my time at uni during boring lectures or gaps in my timetable :P

[Space_Monkey]

Ok picked this up today, left FFXII for the holidays when I have the time and energy for level-upping characters,

So far I'm about 45 mins in and warming up to it quite nicely.

The visual style was always going to kick ass and it doesn't fail to impress. Very noir, drawing insperations from flicks like Once Upon A Time In America, Taxi Driver or The Maltiese falcon mes think? Even reminds me a lil of Dr Catz thanx to the vibrateing chara-sketchs. Loving the use of color and black'n'white to set the mood and atmopshere of a deeply depressed, isolated and lonely man whos still a BADASS!

Was a bit worried about the story as Another Code (which is actually the only DS game I didnt trade in) was passable at best but HD251s is compelling so far.

On the subject of Another Code this feels like the un-offical sequal thanks to a similar control method, puzzles that break out a stylus rash but at the same time is introduces enough elements to remain fresh like the new veirw and of course graphics.

More soon!

[Twyatt]

Got this game yesterday, and I'm up to chapter 3. The game is very much linear series of advents rather than a game like Zelda or something. Awesome though. Judging from the (excellent) story, the game really is a novel with interactive elements. The idea that the next time I play this game there could be a completely different turn of events decided by how I answer these questions sounds aces too!

[StompBrother]

Only thing I'm not too sure about at the moment is the fact that movement is handled by the touch screen but shown (in 3D) on the other screen. With the system being held sideways it's difficult to watch the sweet 3D action - I spend my whole time staring at the rudimentary top down map.
You can use the dpad to walk around so you can walk around while watching the screen. Be careful though as the dpad control isn't like the standard FPS pivot style. It makes your character face whatever direction your push in.

-Stompy

[Space_Monkey]

Yeah Two memories controls were better, but if 251 was in 3rd person I feel it would isolate the player from the main character Kyle.

Added with the classic noir narration the through his eyes type approach works.

[borgster101]

Loving this game so far, though it gets annoying when I'm stuck on a puzzle or nothing seems to happen because I havent looked at something to trigger an event :P But thats simply the nature of how these types of games work.

But yes its great, art style rocks, interesting story, and the main character Kyle is a refreshing character to play as in a Nintendo game :thumbsup:

[Bronze]

Started this tonight. It reminds me a LOT of Another Code, which is to be expected I guess. ;)

[Space_Monkey]

Something I'm actually quite dissapionted about is the lack gameplay that uses the versitility of the DS.

In another code I was slipping and sliding with the touch-screen, blowing into tha microphone etc etc at often intervals but so far I've only seen two puzzles (the jig saw and the takeing notes) that seperate this from being possible on PSP.

[Bronze]

Something I'm actually quite dissapionted about is the lack gameplay that uses the versitility of the DS.

In another code I was slipping and sliding with the touch-screen, blowing into tha microphone etc etc at often intervals but so far I've only seen two puzzles (the jig saw and the takeing notes) that seperate this from being possible on PSP.

Yeah, just wait. They're coming. One puzzle I immediately recognised from Another Code, and another one that I didn't think was physically possible with the DS hardware. The mic also comes into play... >.>

I'm getting stuck into Chapter 7 at the moment. Woke up this morning, picked up the DS, and started playing from the start of Chapter 1. Haven't put it down since. ;)

[/backslash]

I'm up to Chapter 4 now, slowly completing it at a comfortable pace. Some of the puzzles have been pretty annoying with one in particular that doesn't give you any clue of how to complete it! Had to resort to GameFAQ for that one and then there was one very cheeky puzzle involving creativity with the touchscreen. Granted, I wasn't stuck on that for more than a couple of minutes, but it still manage to baffle me.

Only had the Game Over screen appear once so far and to be honest, it was an utterly stupid reason to be chucked out of the Hotel.

[Bronze]

Aaaand... all done.

Started the game at 9:30AM this morning, finished it at 11:00PM. I've had the DS on playing it for the whole day (ran out of battery twice, had to play tethered to the wall).

It was... well... I don't know if I liked it or not. To be honest, I didn't think it was anywhere near as good as Another Code. Some of the puzzles were devilishly creative, but wading through an hour of text to get to a 10 second puzzle isn't exactly my idea of compelling gameplay. As pointed out in some reviews, it feels like a mystery novel with interactive elements.

Would I recommend it? Probably not. Unless you're a huge fan of mystery novels or ye olde Lucasarts point-and-click adventures, there's not going to be a lot here for you.

[Jay]

Interesting report Bronze, and good work for ploughing through in a day! I'm enjoying it so far, but, as you suggest, I would like a bit more actual gaming. I think treating it as an interactive graphic novel is not a bad approach to take.

[borgster101]

I'm on Chapter 7 now, loving the game, but yeah interactive graphic novel is probably a better word for it, not that its a bad thing as its something different, if you want an actual video game this isnt for you, but there is an interesting story here, Another Code would be better for the puzzles but Hotel Dusk is better for story and characters, Another Code didnt even really have any characters :P

[Jay]

I just finished reading the Eurogamer review http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=73287 (John Walker, who I find a bit shit to be honest, and he has a cynical crack at Another Code so he can truly **** off). It's okay, but then I made the mistake of opening up the forums (why do I get sucked in?) **** most of the people who post at Eurogamer are bullshit. Stop ****ing whinging (he whinges). I mean I know it's a British national past time but please...

Oh, and on topic: still enjoying the game (taking it very slowly), but the conversation tree music is quite irritating after a while, especially considering how much time you spend climbing said trees.

[borgster101]

Just finished the game, I liked the ending everything was pieced together quite nicely, enjoyable game, or perhaps enjoyable read is the better word :P Either way I had a good time with it :D

[Space_Monkey]

Just hit chapter 3 I'm slow I know but just managing to squeeze it between booze and study!

[Jickle]

I'm a massive fan of the art in this game. I feel like I can forgive the game's obtuse search quests everytime Hyde smirks.

[consoul]

Loving it. Great art. Nice noir feel. Dialogue with attitude.
It's living up to my expectations.

The music does grate after a while though. Volume off.

[Jickle]

The music does grate after a while though. Volume off.

Really? I don't mind it. Bits and pieces of it reminds me of Twin Peaks. In fact, a lot of the game reminds me a bit of Twin Peaks.

[Jickle]

I'm still loving this game, but there's a few things I have a problem with:

- The puzzle in the electrical room. It seems to be there purely so Cing can say "Hey, look, bet you didn't know we could do this!". Plot wise, it makes no sense that no one figured out to do this beforehand, and it's surprisingly ineffective on the touch screen.

-Writing in the notebook is an awesome idea, but the connection between the stylus and the screen seems off. Is this just me, or is the stuff getting written *below* where everyone else is trying to write it as well?

-I got a 'Game Over' screen last night for making one wrong decision in a conversation, after which Kyle, instead of asking the question again, went back to his room, too embarrassed to leave for the rest of the night. Horribly out of character.

Still, very much enjoying it despite these issues.

[borgster101]

Damn that electrical room puzzle, I actually tried the "solution" pretty early but it didnt work, so I figured you couldnt do that on the DS touch screen, only when I read a FAQ I realised that I was right all along only I didnt do it right :P

I'm being intentially vague here to avoid spoilers, if you have completed the puzzle you'll know what I mean.

[Jay]

Thanks for your vagueness guys - much appreciated. Haven't got there yet. Intrigued now... :)

[ElPresidente]

Good game, not great.

If you have played a lot of Japanese adventure games in the past (including those by cing and others) they have a very distinctive way of playing with the genre and it is not particularly inventive. Yes it is meant to be a story driven genre but it is also meant to be a game and the whole stop/start nature of progression in the game works against it. Even Dreamfall has more game than this and that is saying something.

I'm up to chapter four at the moment and while the storyline is definately intriguing (I've just had the big reveal conversation with you know who regarding Hyde's past) I do feel more like I'm reading a story (with a FREAKING SLOW START) than I am playing a game.

I'll definately complete it, it is engaging enough for me to do that. Despite my initial desire to smack Hyde upside the head a few times for being such a rude grumpy prick I'm really warming to him and his motivation, Louis DeNonno too.

I just feel it keeps shooting itself in the foot and is far too reliant on the trappings of the Japense style of adventuring that western adventure game developers such as Sierra and more obviously Lucasarts were able to avoid early on. It is a game which is so modern in so many respect yet so trapped in the past I find it hard to really love it but at the same time difficult to disregard.

I think the 7/10 score from Eurogamer is on the money.

[borgster101]

Yeah, it's not really a "game" , more like as has been said before an interactive graphic novel, perhaps not a bad thing, but if you after some sort of gaming experience, there isn't too much here.

[/backslash]

I'll definately complete it, it is engaging enough for me to do that. Despite my initial desire to smack Hyde upside the head a few times for being such a rude grumpy prick I'm really warming to him and his motivation, Louis DeNonno too.
Here here, I'm currently halfway through Chapter 6 and there's a scene where Iris walks into the bar, she asks if she can have a drink with you and your choices are "No way!" or "No thanks." C'mon! Can't he at least try to pickup on a good-looking chick?

Bourbon - check.
Bar - check.
Empty bar with girl - check.

Maybe we find out later Hyde's actually gay and gets it on with writer Summer *shuddders*. Unfortunately I completely forgot to turn on the tv between 7-9pm at the front desk so I missed that opportunity. Also with the vending machine I forgot to get some loose change at the beginning, now there's nobody at the front desk to get coins off. I've got all the numbers from around the Hotel, I just can't use them.

Does anyone know if you can still use them at a later time? It's 9.20 game time atm. I'm really enjoying this, but not as a game. Like everyone said it's more like an engaging book with interactivity

[losturtle]

When i was up to that part and saw the options i actually yelled "COME ON!!!" out loud.

I yelled it again emphatically when i actually found out who she was. What really pissed me off is that he's so nice to the annoying, decrepit old lady with the eye patch. I loved it at first, being a wannabe adventure game connoisseur but it's making it very difficult with how slow the text is. I don't know how to explain it but it seems to take ages to fast forward past the text and for it to show up on screen. I remember having to redo a huge part of Vampire Bloodlines and i was scrolling through the text like crazy and was back to where i needed to be in no time. If i did that in Hotel Dusk it'd seemingly take hours.

Really, i'm saying this now, all adventure games MUST feature text that can scroll faster than the average person can read, after this game i just can't stress that enough.

[ElPresidente]

Does anyone know if you can still use them at a later time? It's 9.20 game time atm. I'm really enjoying this, but not as a game. Like everyone said it's more like an engaging book with interactivity

The only time you can get coins is near the beginning of chapter 4 when you speak with Dunning after Jay cracks the sads.

[borgster101]

Yeah I missed out on getting the change as well, I found all those numbers for nothing! :(

And I think everyone would have had a drink with Iris if they could :P It was pretty funny that the two options were No thanks and No Way.

[/backslash]

The only time you can get coins is near the beginning of chapter 4 when you speak with Dunning after Jay cracks the sads.
Bugger! Hyde should've used that crowbar to pry open the vending machine instead :P Actually speaking of crowbars I forgot to hide some of my stuff that I nicked, at first I thought I put away everything, except for the $20k cash (which I couldn't put back in its original place), I then proceeded down the stairs and Dunning asked me to take my belongings out, he then says something like "Oi! What's this?!", Hyde replies "I won big at the races" :lol:

Another funny moment is when you're trying to figure out who drank what wine, you knock on Summer's door and he says "It was white. An unusual blend of unique flavour and-" Hyde then interrupts and says "Don't care". He may be a rude bastard but there's an undeniable charm that you've got to admire.

I can't believe Iris actually invites Hyde into her room later on in the chapter. I was going "Okay! This is your big moment! Do something!". And he does do something, he continues being the rude bastard that he is. I know I shouldn't expect some kind of hentai-dating simulation game but the girl obviously likes him because she's been pretty persistant so far on a number of occasions.

[borgster101]

Thats the whole point of Hyde's character he isn't going to mess around with a "princess" like Iris.

[losturtle]

Just finished the game, if you've been enjoying it so far the ending is worth playing on. Not in the way of a "big reveal" or twist (though i guess there is something like that in there), but something very mature, sad and heartfealt that i really haven't seen in a game (well at least MANY games) before. Upon the ending i'd say this is one of the most well-written games i've ever played.


Pity it makes you feel like falling asleep at times.

[/backslash]

Finished! This was the US version btw people so I actually started it a couple of weeks before it came out locally

One of the most enjoyable games I've played in quite a while and that's saying a lot. Brilliant from start to finish, the only downer were the half a dozen 'Game Over' scenes I encountered. That and during the last chapter where you're having a conversation that lasts nearly an hour, and you can't save, my DS battery decides to die on me when Hyde wakes up the next morning at 8am! After an hour of scrawling text, I had to do it all over again!

Luckily the ending was worth it though, unfortunately I didn't visit the rooftop upon leaving, I didn't get loose change from Dunning and in result I didn't get anything from the vending machine. Perhaps on my next play through in the not-too-distant future I'll remember next time.

[Space_Monkey]

I have a problem.

I can't fit both Hotel Dusk and Phoenix Ace Attorney in my NDS at the same time. :(

[Pauly]

I have a problem.

I can't fit both Hotel Dusk and Phoenix Ace Attorney in my NDS at the same time. :(
You can illegally >_>

[StorminNorman]

Picked this game up so far.

Reminds me a lot of the very excellent Another Code, so far.

[Jickle]

I finished it last night.

As much as some people say it needs more gameplay, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Cing should have put in less actual playing. I had a great time with this, but didn't really play it as a game, and was generally a bit annoyed by the fetch quests and unfair 'Game Over' scenarios. Essentially, I was in it entirelly for the story, which definitely delievered.

[ElPresidente]

Just finished the game about 5 minutes ago.

Fantastic ending, some great characters and it really did manage the impossible by not only tying up the multitude of story threads but actually making the string of coincidences that struck Hotel Dusk on that evening seem plausible.

I'd still like to have seen it have better game design... it was a bit half-hearted in this regard. I certainly see where Jickle is coming from, the game was so non-commital in this regard I really read it as either do it properly or not at all. Jickle is going for the not at all, I'm going for the doing it properly... either way is legit.

Regardless I am very happy I went through it. I really fell in love with the characters, even old man Dunning. All up a top read... err... game. :D

[borgster101]

And nice Avatar Presidente :D Louie was awesome :thumbsup:

[ElPresidente]

What a trip. :P

[/backslash]

And nice Avatar Presidente :D Louie was awesome :thumbsup:

I've decided to hop on the Hotel Dusk avatar bandwagon too :D

[ElPresidente]

Gold location there slashy!

*chuckle*

[StorminNorman]

I'm getting on the bandwagon too!

[ElPresidente]

Screw you! I was looking for an image of Milla but could find one so I had to go with DeNonno.

*sob*

[Bronze]

Did somebody say... BANDWAGON?

[borgster101]

Shit .. I might have to actually get an avatar now :P

[consoul]

Yeeeehaw!

[borgster101]

WOO BANDWAGON !! :P

Sweetie ;)

[Jickle]

I'd jump on this bandwagon if I could find a picture of Summer, I really would.

[/backslash]

I'd jump on this bandwagon if I could find a picture of Summer, I really would.
edit: Refer to the next page after this one for a selection of avatars

[borgster101]

Hahah, there's also Hyde's boss, "Hyde, what's the good word"? :P

[consoul]

Come on. You know you want Rosa. Or Melissa.

[StorminNorman]

Screw you! I was looking for an image of Milla but could find one so I had to go with DeNonno.

*sob*

Bwahhahahahaha. :D

I was almost going to give up because all I could find were the in-game screenshots of the characters. Then, somewhere near the bottom of the first page of Google, I found a gallery with the characters drawn like this.

I haven't decided if I like it better with or without the coloured background, though.

I can't believe how many of us jumped on the bandwagon. That's pretty cool.

[aubergine]

Hey, how about my avatar!


...


Well **** you guys.

[borgster101]

I can't believe how many of us jumped on the bandwagon. That's pretty cool.
Hahah yeah, so are we in like a clan or something now? :P

[StorminNorman]

I believe it's a meme. :P

[/backslash]

Okay, let's see how many characters we can get!
I went to the official japanese site and managed to screencap some animation images. All images below are 80x80pixels, ready to use!

http://users.tpg.com.au/surashi/hoteldusk5.gif

http://users.tpg.com.au/surashi/hoteldusk8.gif

http://users.tpg.com.au/surashi/hoteldusk9.gif

http://users.tpg.com.au/surashi/hoteldusk10.gif
^
Now owned by Thraxas

http://users.tpg.com.au/surashi/hoteldusk11.gif
^
Now owned by Jickle

http://users.tpg.com.au/surashi/hoteldusk12.gif

http://users.tpg.com.au/surashi/hoteldusk6.gif

^
Now owned by aubergine

http://users.tpg.com.au/surashi/hoteldusk7.gif

^
Now owned by Hellion_7


Not sure if anyone's interested but I also managed to get some shots of Milla

http://users.tpg.com.au/surashi/hoteldusk7.jpg

[borgster101]

Well done slashy, you legend! :D

[aubergine]

I bags this one.

[Jickle]

Consider me on the bandwagon.

[aubergine]

My avatar is phoning your avatar.

[Space_Monkey]

So this hasen't been taken yeah?

[StorminNorman]

Just like to point out that the one I'm using is similar to the top-right one in that group of four Milla images.

[/backslash]

*looks at Space_Monkey's edit*
You bastard! After pepping me, you'd better get back on the bandwagon again otherwise I'm going to nep you :P

[Bronze]

>_>

What're you doing in my room, slashy? <.<

[/backslash]

>_>

What're you doing in my room, slashy? <.<
<_<
I'm in a DIFFERENT Room 216. The one where Iris really is a girl :P
Plus El Prez is already using my room anyway

[ElPresidente]

I'm stashing cash in your toilet!

Hah! And you all thought it was Jack Angel/Damon! :P

[/backslash]

I'm stashing cash in your toilet!

Hah! And you all thought it was Jack Angel/Damon! :P
You mean Jeff Angel/Damon - see, this is why I'm a detective ;)
Anyway, thanks for the money. I'll be off spending $20k on my new gaming setup now! *jumps out of window and gets in getaway car*

[Bronze]

That was totally out of character for Hyde, slashy. :P

...yes, I can read deleted posts. >.>

[Hellion_7]

*gets shot by /backslash*

Bastard...

[borgster101]

I'm still here at the office, that Ed works me hard and I'm not even sure if he pays me. :P

Anyway slashy (Hyde), aubergine (Ed) is waiting on the line he has some big news, I'll put you through now.

....

Sweetie ;)

[consoul]

You're fired ElPrez.

[Thraxas]

Just finished playing through my first time. I enjoyed it immensely. I loved how many of the characters were linked. I hope they make a sequel. I thought I would like to jump on the bandwagon too... can I use this one?

[Bronze]

The more the merrier. ;)

Not sure where they'd go with a Hotel Dusk sequel. Perhaps Hyde finding Bradley? Maybe a prequel which leads to him getting shot?

[/backslash]

Anyway slashy (Hyde), aubergine (Ed) is waiting on the line he has some big news, I'll put you through now.

....

Sweetie ;)
Thanks dollface.
Hey Ed, what's the big news?
What? DeNonno didn't flush the toilet after he used my room? Damn punk street rat! I had a hunch there was more going on there with that bellhop. And Iris is really a guy in drags you say? I'll go shake the trees and see what falls out.

*gets shot by /backslash*

Bastard...
You had it coming :P

--------------

Not sure where they'd go with a Hotel Dusk sequel. Perhaps Hyde finding Bradley? Maybe a prequel which leads to him getting shot?
I'm sure they could think of something but it wouldn't be easy. They'll probably move on with a new project instead

Can I use this one?
Yes, you can :)

[Thraxas]

Maybe a prequel would be better. Maybe you could play as Bradley so we could see some backstory from his point of view.

[Jickle]

I dunno, there's a fair bit to clear up if there was a sequel. It's just a question of how to get all the characters back in the same place at once again.

[Hellion_7]

It's doubtful we'll see a sequel anytime soon, as Cing have just started work on Project O (http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/771/771785p1.html) (with some pretty darn big names involved too).

[borgster101]

Yeah I dont think we will see a sequel anytime soon.

[StorminNorman]

The new rule is that you have to have a Hotel Dusk avatar to post in this thread.

[Bronze]

I'll enforce that rule with an iron fist!*




*maybe. >_>

[aubergine]

You know I actually own this game but haven't played it yet? My DS is dominated by Phoenix Wright II and Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.

[borgster101]

You really should play it aub, so you'll know who your avatar is at the very least :P

[watkinzez]

Planning to get this on Monday. Is anyone selling this cheaper than JB's $58?

[Valrain]

I just picked up a copy of Hotel Dusk today, only just started playing but it looks like an awesome game so far. One small problem however, when i close the lid to engage sleep mode the power light blinks faster than usual, the sound stutters and the screen flashes on and off repeatedly, just wondered if anyone else has come across this. I'm playing it on a DS Lite.
When i reopen it the game is fine but each time i close it the stuttering/flashing occurs.
I have not had this issue with sleep mode on my other DS games.

[Nic Xtreme]

I just picked up a copy of Hotel Dusk today, only just started playing but it looks like an awesome game so far. One small problem however, when i close the lid to engage sleep mode the power light blinks faster than usual, the sound stutters and the screen flashes on and off repeatedly, just wondered if anyone else has come across this. I'm playing it on a DS Lite.
When i reopen it the game is fine but each time i close it the stuttering/flashing occurs.
I have not had this issue with sleep mode on my other DS games.

It's strange, huh? I've had it happen once with Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, and it never happened again with the game! 'Twas a one off!

[Valrain]

It's strange, huh? I've had it happen once with Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, and it never happened again with the game! 'Twas a one off!

Looks like the same here, I was begining to wonder if i had got a dud cartridge but its all good now :smile:

[Marshmellow_Squid]

Haven't finished this yet, up to chapter 6 (only play it for an hour or two at a time before sleep), and I don't really want anything spoiled, but the chick on the cover of the men's magazine sure looks like Iris!

[tau]

So I shouldn't trust the Hyper review? It seemed to think it was pretty boring, but it could just be the reviewer wasn't in to story-based "games". If it's lengthy enough It'd prove to be useful to play while on the train and the like.

[Jickle]

It's not really much of a 'play on the train' game, because you can't save mid-conversation if you get to your stop, and the game's really based entirelly around conversation. It's more of a "sit back when you've got an hour spare to delve into another chapter" sort of thing. It really is more like a book than a game.

[/backslash]

So I shouldn't trust the Hyper review? It seemed to think it was pretty boring, but it could just be the reviewer wasn't in to story-based "games". If it's lengthy enough It'd prove to be useful to play while on the train and the like.
Yep, after all it's only one magazine's opinion and everybody says you can't judge a game on 1 review alone. On Metacritic it has an average of 78% (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ds/hotelduskroom215?q=hotel%20dusk). Reviewers like Gamespot, RPGFan, Gamespy and 1up gave it 80%+.

It's not boring by any means, but it does contain a lot of text and plays more like an interactive book. Whilst the gameplay is a little light, it's still an addictive game and you'll be playing it from beginning to end - guaranteed :D

Pros: Well-paced mystery story, engaging characters, lots of exploration.

Cons: Mundane puzzles that aren't well integrated into the story, clunky navigation.

Bottom-line: Hotel Dusk is another good DS release from Cing. The game is entertaining, and a worthwhile purchase for any DS owner who enjoys a lot of story in their games and doesn't mind the occasional lame puzzle.

It's not really much of a 'play on the train' game, because you can't save mid-conversation if you get to your stop
Technically you can save mid-conversation, if you've finished answering 1 question and still have another couple to ask, you can return back to the map and save. Unless you're near the end of the game, you'll have a chance to quickly save if you read fast enough, or just simply close the DS and wait till you have another chance to read the rest :)

[tau]

1 hour trainride :P

[fishonthecarpet]

Just been getting into this : )
Hadn't heard much about it, other than it was the second game from Cing. I enjoyed Another Code (for about 4.5 hours before it finished), somehow Hotel Dusk didn't really perk my interest, but now that I'm playing it it's great. Up to chapter 7 I think.

Kind of slow moving at times, and you can tell they've shoved in some stuff to lengthen the story, but I'm keen to keep playing : )

Wish these guys would announce another DS title.

[Nic Xtreme]

I'm also back into this (stopped when Pokemon came out :D) and I'm loving it! Head over to the "What are you playing now..." thread to read my current impressions!

http://www.hyper.com.au/showpost.php?p=604364&postcount=450

It's pure greatness! I LOVE it!

[scoz]

Mmm... I HATED THE ENDING. Did everyone get the little scene after the credits, or is that special? That was cool.

Nice style, but the probs was I got phoinex wright at the exact same time, which crippled my enjoyment of dusk. These type of games go real good on the ds. Is Another code any good?

[/backslash]

These type of games go real good on the ds. Is Another code any good?
For $25 at Big W you could do a lot worse. I thoroughly enjoyed Another Code even though the experience is somewhat short lived

[scoz]

For $25 at Big W you could do a lot worse. I thoroughly enjoyed Another Code even though the experience is somewhat short lived

Hmmm... No, Phoinex Wright 2 on thursday. Nothing, nay NOTHING will get in it's way.

[fishonthecarpet]

Is Phoenix Wright similar? I've been really enjoying the style of game. Though I suspect Phoenix Wright is more comical and less intense story-wise.

[scoz]

Hmm. Phoinex is comical, but is serious when it needs to be. The twists are much, much bettter than those in dusk, and voice control is fun (but optional)It's better for shorter sesions, but is shorter (8 hours if lucky) as a whole. 2d also. Still, i've played phoinex 4 times over, whilst only played dusk through once. Still if you get phoinex and have doubts after case 1 stick with it. Final case 4 and bonus case 5 are amazing.

[fishonthecarpet]

thanks scoz. Will keep all that in mind when looking to buy a new DS game : )

[scoz]

One more day till PHOINEX 2!!! Played through phoinex again (once you beat it you get fast forward, like in dusk, so I can skip to the court scenes relatively easily)...OBJECTION!!!

[Tukenstein]

Just out of curiosity - What's a Phoinex?

Also, say I loved Another Code to pieces, but was kinda fazed by it's EXTREME linearity - Would I like Hotel Dusk? It didn't quite get the reviews that AC did, so is it not quite as good as AC? What do you guys think of the game in relation to AC?

[Nic Xtreme]

Hotel Dusk got better reviews than Another Code...

80.4% for Hotel Dusk http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/933043.asp

vs.

72.5% for Another Code http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/924898.asp

I enjoyed them both, but definitely Hotel Dusk more -- both were just as linear, but HD has a better storyline -- much better -- and brilliant characters and writing, which brings them to life!

Hotel Dusk is definitely better than Another Code.

Oh yeah, I just finished HD in 17.5hrs, and I found it to be much longer -- double the length -- so yeah, worth it!

[Tukenstein]

Double the length? That's almost quadruple the length!

Oh, and I was going by Hyper's scores. They marked Another Code pretty high.

Sounds good, though. I'm always up for a bit of well written fun. :D

[fishonthecarpet]

Just finished Hotel Dusk.

The extreme linearity of it kinda annoyed me aswell, but it was worth it for the story and cool characters. It only started to bother me about halfway through anyway, so it's no biggie : )

Great game, one of the most original experiences I've had in a while. Far, far better than Another Code. Another Code was just... the story wasn't great at all. Though it was a fair bit nicer looking.

Ending was ok, I still think there were way, way to many "coincidences" but they did do a good job of tying everything together without making it one big conspiracy.

[scoz]

I hated the end. The only bit I liked was the scene after the credits. It seemed a bit of a cop out, with the whole *spoiler* in the red *spoiler* saying to not *spoilerific*

[Nic Xtreme]

OH MY GOD HOTEL DUSK/ANOTHER CODE MEGATONS!!!!!!!!!

Read this ~

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5449739&postcount=532

Then look at this, and go, "OMG!"

http://ga-forum.com/showpost.php?p=13059348&postcount=113

THE LINK IS FOUND!

XTREME ENTHUSIASM GET :rolleyes:

[Dukotoja]

is this a connection between hotel dusk and another code?

I still have not found a copy of hotel dusk whyme, is your friend done with it yet?

[/backslash]

is this a connection between hotel dusk and another code?

I still have not found a copy of hotel dusk whyme, is your friend done with it yet?
The only real connection is that they're made by the same people, Hotel Dusk being the more mature title.

Also I've spotted a copy of Hotel Dusk at my local Gametraders

OH MY GOD HOTEL DUSK/ANOTHER CODE MEGATONS!!!!!!!!!
Damn, the way you were shouting about I thought since Another Code Wii has been announced there might be a sequel for Hotel Dusk :p

[Tukenstein]

Me too. I was slightly less disappointed then I thought I would be, though. :P

[Space_Monkey]

the way you were shouting about I thought since Another Code Wii has been announced there might be a sequel for Hotel Dusk :p

...Another Code Wii?

*Dashes to google.

OH DEAR GOD!!

[Argeaux]

I must be one of the few people who enjoyed Another Code a lot more than Hotel Dusk.

I found the backtracking in HD far more tedious than in AC. Although AC was short, I found the puzzles more logical and I enjoyed the story more.

I also liked the way that DS cards were integrated into the story.

[D.C.]

Sorry for the huge bump, but does anyone know where I can pick up Another Code and/or Hotel Dusk for a reasonable price? I couldn't find them anywhere in the city today, and Broken Sword is only going to satisfy my point-and-click addiction for so long. :)

[Lazlow]

Hotel Dusk (US Version) (http://www.play-asia.com/SOap-23-83-24ww-71-ba-49-en-15-hotel+dusk-84-j-70-1iwq.html) - $35.48

Another Code you'll probably have to search second hand for.

[/backslash]

Sorry for the huge bump, but does anyone know where I can pick up Another Code and/or Hotel Dusk for a reasonable price? I couldn't find them anywhere in the city today, and Broken Sword is only going to satisfy my point-and-click addiction for so long. :)

Hotel Dusk US$25 @ Play-Asia (http://www.play-asia.com/SOap-23-83-3ylm-71-ba-49-en-15-hotel+dusk-84-j-70-1iwq.html)

Or CDUniverse.com for US$19.74 (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7348240&style=games)

Trace Memory (which is Another Code), also at CDUniverse for US$19.74 (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6881468&style=games)

edit: Damn you Lazlow! :p

[D.C.]

Thanks for the links guys, much appreciated. :)

I didn't do I whole lot of research before purchasing the DSi today, but I'm assuming that there is no region lock-out like the previous DS versions?

[Lazlow]

AFAIK DS games are still region free. Its any DSi specific games you have to be wary of.

[D.C.]

Ah, excellent. I was a bit wary of that as soon as I switched on the the system for the first time and it requested the country. :p

[Hellion_7]

Finally, a sequel (http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-10386813688.html) has been announced for the DS, currently called Last Window.
http://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20091112/19/sinobi/4a/17/j/o0210030010304765535.jpg
**** yeah! :D

[/backslash]

Finally, a sequel (http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-10386813688.html) has been announced for the DS, currently called Last Window.
http://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/20091112/19/sinobi/4a/17/j/o0210030010304765535.jpg
**** yeah! :D
Omg omg omg! :D They must've seen my avatar devotion

[ElPresidente]

Awesomeness!!!!!!

[AranchineD]

Sweet.

Now remember developers, ignore everyone who complain about the game not being gamey enough! They're idiots!

[Emilbus]

Can't wait, this was one of the first game i got as soon as i bought the DS.

[fleshtea]

The Last Window: Midnight Promise is a followup to Kyle Hyde's original adventure. Developed again by Cing, it's set in LA during the 1980s and will see Hyde return and possibly meet an adult Ashley Mizuki Robbins from Trace Memory. It will once again be for the DS and is due to hit Japan on January 24, 2010

You see that shiz? An adult Ashley? Sounds terribly sexy, and with the popularity of HD that's gotta make it to localised versions, right?

[Jickle]

Sweet.

Now remember developers, ignore everyone who complain about the game not being gamey enough! They're idiots!

Too right. I remember saying that the game would have benefited from less 'gamey' elements. I was hooked on the story, not so much the puzzles.

[borgster101]

I just hope this gets an English release .. Another Code R on Wii was lucky to get a PAL relase (EU only - more people buy it damnit) .. so hopefully some form of English version is released.

[Nic Xtreme]

Sooooo glad to hear this news! As with everyone else, I absolutely LOVED the original and cannot wait for this game (plz release in english k thx)!

[fishonthecarpet]

The Last Window: Midnight Promise is a followup to Kyle Hyde's original adventure. Developed again by Cing, it's set in LA during the 1980s and will see Hyde return and possibly meet an adult Ashley Mizuki Robbins from Trace Memory. It will once again be for the DS and is due to hit Japan on January 24, 2010

You see that shiz? An adult Ashley? Sounds terribly sexy, and with the popularity of HD that's gotta make it to localised versions, right?

That's fantastic news! Suddenly I need a DS again...

edit: Wtf, Another Code sequel has been released already? I'm so behind the times.

[Space_Monkey]

Yea but according to reviews Another Code Wii isn't great although it could be because it's a rather niche game.

Great news to hear about the sequel to Hotel Dusk, the original was one of the few DS games I've stuck with.

[/backslash]

Trailer & In-game footage! :D

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[fishonthecarpet]

Thanks Backslash! I'm still keen to try Another Code Wii at some point, when I don't have a million games to play I'll import a copy. Apparently it's quite dull at times but that doesn't bother me so much :)

[Grubdog]

Yea but according to reviews Another Code Wii isn't great although it could be because it's a rather niche game.

Great news to hear about the sequel to Hotel Dusk, the original was one of the few DS games I've stuck with.
Reviews suck, Another Code R is outstanding.

[/backslash]

Yikes, Last Window is already out in Japan (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-9g-49-en-70-3n3o.html). Another wish I could read japanese :(

[Nic Xtreme]

DS

July

* 23rd - Dragon Question IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies (Nintendo)
* 23rd - Cats & Dogs (505 Games)
* TBC - Disney Fireworks (Disney Interactive Studios) (DSiWare)

August

* 5th - Sorceror's Apprentice (Disney Interactive Studios)
* 6th - Art Academy: Learn painting and drawing techniques with step-by-step training (Nintendo)
* 27th - Grease (505 Games)
* TBC - America's Next Top Model (Mastertronic Group Limited)
* TBC - Witches & Vampires - Ghost Pirates of Ashburry (Mastertronic Group Limited) (WiiWare)
* TBC - Witches & Vampires - Secrets of Ashburry (Mastertronic Group Limited) (WiiWare)

September

* 3rd - Tetris Party Deluxe (Wii and Nintendo DS) (Nintendo)
* 3rd - Camp Rock 2 : Final Jam (Disney Interactive Studios)
* 9th - TinkerBell and the Great Fairy Rescue (Disney Interactive Studios)
* 10th - Batman Brave and the Bold (Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment)
* 17th - Last Window: The Secret of Cape West (Nintendo)
* 17th - Lord of the Rings: Aragorn's Quest (Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment)
* 24th - Face Training: Facial exercises to strengthen and relax from Fumiko Inudo (Nintendo)
* 24th - Scooby Doo: Spooky Swamp (Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment)
* TBC - Playmobil: Top Agents (JoWooD)
* TBC - Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions (Activision)

Autumn

* TBC - Beyblade: Metal Fusion (Hudson)

Q3

* TBC - Gormiti: The Lords of Nature (Konami)
* TBC - Frogger Returns (Konami)
* TBC - Puzzle Baby Animals (Tivola Publishing GmbH) (DSiWare)
* TBC - Puzzle Planets ans Universe (Tivola Publishing GmbH) (DSiWare)
* TBC - Puzzle Sightseeing (Tivola Publishing GmbH) (DSiWare)
* TBC - The Last Airbender (THQ) (DSiWare)
* TBC - 16 Shot! SHOOTING WATCH (Hudson) (DSiWare)

:D (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/nintendo-reveals-wii-ds-q3-line-up)

[AranchineD]

So Augst 6th, 2011 for us then.

[Nic Xtreme]

So Augst 6th, 2011 for us then.

British isn't that different a language from Australian.

[/backslash]

Awesome :D Can't seem to find a pre-order yet though, probably too early

Man I've been on the verge of selling my DSi (but keeping the games) lately, its a bit worrying when you have to wait 6 months or more for something else to come out

[AranchineD]

British isn't that different a language from Australian.

Neither is American, doesn't stop them there!

[Nic Xtreme]

Neither is American, doesn't stop them there!

Doesn't stop them from what?

[AranchineD]

From taking ten years to bring the game to Australia.

[Nic Xtreme]

Why would you ever wait for them to do that?!

[AranchineD]

Because **** YOU

[Nic Xtreme]

With all those pointless posts people won't be able to go to the last page and see that LAST WINDOW IS GETTING AN ENGLISH RELEASE IN SEPTEMBER jeez.

[/backslash]

I'll post here for some headbopping reactions

[fishonthecarpet]

**** YES

I didn't expect this! Totally buying another DS.

[fishonthecarpet]

http://www.hyper.com.au/forums/image.php?u=674&dateline=1197208494

[borgster101]

Glad to see an English release is coming, especially since Cing went under recently, which sucks :(

[/backslash]

Coming next month:

http://image4.play-asia.com/350/a4/pa.182176.1.jpg

Woo! :D

[fishonthecarpet]

jizz in my pants

oh shit better buy a DS

[/backslash]

I wish they'd kept the title 'Hotel Dusk' in there, seemed a bit annoying how I couldn't find a search result for it without typing in 'Last Window'. People who played the previous might not even know its a Hotel Dusk sequel either! :(

[/backslash]

Got 'Last Window' in the mail today :D First thing to do: charge up my DSi since its pretty much dead after not being touched for the whole year

Sometimes I really wonder why I bothered to upgrade to a DSi...

[/backslash]

Ah Kyle Hyde, still as rude as ever! :D

I think I've been spoiled by the Retina display on my iPod though, been quite a while since I've used my DSi. I can see all the individual pixels too easy! And everything is blocky :(

[fishonthecarpet]

oh wow it's out
time to buy a DS

[/backslash]

Its out in Europe only, you'll have to import it unfortunately as it won't be getting a local release or even a US release

[AranchineD]

Or you could just pirate it.

[/backslash]

Or you could just pirate it.
Its too much of a masterpiece to pirate, that & Cing is bankrupt :(

[AranchineD]

Exactly, so there's no-one losing out on money.

[AranchineD]

But the developers don't exist anymore.

If the game makes a profit, then it will be encouraging the larger publishers to continue with this sort of action in not supporting small-time developers when they need the help.

Therefore, by paying money for the game, you are hurting not only the developer of Last Window, but all small-time developers across the world.

You make me sick.

[AranchineD]

Oh yes, let's put 'honorable values' before the reality of the world.

I'm not the one causing good developers to go bankrupt.

[borgster101]

But the developers don't exist anymore.

If the game makes a profit, then it will be encouraging the larger publishers to continue with this sort of action in not supporting small-time developers when they need the help.

Therefore, by paying money for the game, you are hurting not only the developer of Last Window, but all small-time developers across the world.

You make me sick.

If the game makes a profit it will encourage the larger publishers to fund further development of more games like this, through seeking out the talent that made the game in the first place. Cing the company might be bankrupt, but the talent is still there ... if there's a market for it, it will encourage more of these types of games.

[AranchineD]

If the game makes a profit it will encourage the larger publishers to fund further development of more games like this, through seeking out the talent that made the game in the first place. Cing the company might be bankrupt, but the talent is still there ... if there's a market for it, it will encourage more of these types of games.

I'm afraid it would seem you have no idea how the videogame industry works.

[AranchineD]

I'm afraid you've used two incongruous premises to arrive at your conclusion, which makes its validity questionable at best.

[AranchineD]

"continue pirating"

Hmm, you seem to be implying that I've done this before. I would like proof of this.

[AranchineD]

Good. With your help maybe we can actually bring balance and order to the industry so good developers can start making good games again.

[AranchineD]

Oh the first game has a wonderful story, so much care and effort went into making it. You'll absolutely love it.

[Vindik8or]

http://uyac.com.au/forum/images/smilies/bizarro.gif

Just quoting this in case you actually wanted to see BB2K's reply.

[Vindik8or]

BB2K's post just now is him saying how he is disappointed that I changed his post.

[Vindik8or]

This is the last one I'm going to do for you, /backslash, this is getting tedious.

Typical cargo-pant-wearing /Aspieslash move.

[Jazzilla]

This has to be the best DS game I have ever played.

[Cerebral]

I'm afraid you're too into piracy to consider other people's opinions. Buy the game & don't make crappy reasons of why you should pirate it instead unless its PC related

¿qué?

[Cerebral]

I can't think of a rational reason someone would pirate a game for any of the reasons you listed unless they were going to pirate it anyway. People who pirate games to stick it to DRM are lame and are deluding themselves to the fact that they're tightasses who don't want to pay for the game.

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I'm not discussing it any further. Move back onto the thread topic please

[AranchineD]

You know I think an even more important is the fact that, since the game isn't available in Australia, I wouldn't have bought it anyway because importing is a sin and hurts our economy by sending money overseas.

[borgster101]

You know I think an even more important is the fact that, since the game isn't available in Australia, I wouldn't have bought it anyway because importing is a sin and hurts our economy by sending money overseas.
I'm afraid it would seem you have no idea how economics work.

[Vindik8or]

I'm afraid it would seem you have no idea how Aran works.

[AranchineD]

I'm afraid it would seem you have no idea how economics work.

Explain how spending money on a non-Australian store/distributor keeps local stores in business.

[borgster101]

Explain how spending money on a non-Australian store/distributor keeps local stores in business.
It doesn't.

[AranchineD]

So you agree then that by importing games you are destroying the Australian economy. Thank you for proving my argument.

[borgster101]

So you agree then that by importing games you are destroying the Australian economy. Thank you for proving my argument.
No. Because keeping inefficient stores in business doesn't help the Australian economy.

[AranchineD]

Wow. Just...wow. I had no idea how much some people on this forum actually hate this country.

If you don't like it you can always leave the country, champ. And if you did you'd once again have the great Aussie spirit of freedom to thank for you being able to do so.

[borgster101]

You're the one who thinks it's good for the Australian people to waste our scarce resources on enterprises that can be obtained more efficiently overseas. We should be devoting our resources to where we have the advantage and trade with other nations for things like videogames to benefit both Australia's and the world's economy.

[Vindik8or]

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[Dunkurtin]

You're the one who thinks it's good for the Australian people to waste our scarce resources on enterprises that can be obtained more efficiently overseas. We should be devoting our resources to where we have the advantage and trade with other nations for things like videogames to benefit both Australia's and the world's economy.

Scarce resources?

[AranchineD]

Did the first game have a novelisation of the game contained within the game?

I can't remember. But Last Window certainly does!

[Nic Xtreme]

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I want to see the actor they chose for Kyle Hyde!

[AranchineD]

Real Claire isn't as adorable as drawn Claire :(

[BB2K]

So I only recently got around to playing the first game.
It's pretty good. Kyle acts like a bit of a dickhead, though.