Pokemon Platinum to join, xerox Diamond & Pearl

[OldNewell]

Here we can discuss, the currently in development, Pokemon Diamond and Pokemon Pearl for NDS. If you're not up-to-date with what is happening regarding these titles head over to Serebii (http://www.serebii.net/diamondpearl/) for the latest info.

So whadda ya think of the games so far?

[Maxi]

Can't be bothered heading to that site... are these RPG's like the originals?

To tell the truth, I'm looking forward to Mysterious Dungeon.

[OldNewell]

Lets make this thread for all the upcoming Pokemon games then! And yes, yet again the tried and true (not to mention now unoriginal) Pokemon RPG format returns in Diamond and pearl.

I'm looking forward to Dungeon myself. That will be the first ever pokemon game were you play as the pokemon right?

[Lt.Shipr]

Um... yeah, every one seems to like these games on the GBA so i might think about getting one even though i can't stand pokemon! What's with the colors they have? (Daimond and pearl?) what gives?

I think i'd rather play as pokemon rather then be a guy throwing balls around.

[OldNewell]

I know there is a fair few starter pokemon for Mysterious Dungeon but I'm not sure if all pokemon are available in it. I think it would be cooler to be the pokemon.

They are going a bit far with the colours/Precious gems though. Green, Blue, Red, Silver, Gold, Crystal, Ruby, Saphire, Emerald, Fire red, Leaf Green, Diamond, Pearl, Vomit green, Translucent goo red.

And I don't particularly like Pokemon either. But the games I like, I don't know why. But sooner or later the RPG format that began with green/red/blue is starting to get a bit old. I think Diamond or pearl will be the last of these games I buy. Then I'll have to find another way to waste time, Like cockfighting or something :P .

[TSplodey]

Really whats with all the bagging of the names? What do you suggest they call them that makes them easily recognizable as a pair and still keep the colour theme going?

[OldNewell]

I dunno, I'm bored i have to make fun of something :P. I see there is no better way to differentiate the titles, but still. Why don't they call them but the year of release like 'Pokemon 95' or chuck a Microsoft and go 'Pokemon XP proffesional Venasaur edition' :P

On sencond thought, they should stick with colours...

[Lt.Shipr]

No but what do they need to differentiate about them any way... they're different in what way??!?!?!

I thought it was just a ruse to make you buy more games. SO you need all the collours to catch em all or something.

Pokemon Poo Brown?

[Maxi]

The games are different in the pokemon that are available, and how rare they are. So you need two games to CATCH THEM ALL!!

They should release Pokemon Longhorn now that Microsoft ditched the name... how about Pokemon Revolution??

[OldNewell]

Super pokemon World 4: Charmanders island?


With mysterious dungeon though, I think red and blue is fine because they are on different platforms. Anyone know how many Pokemon are available in Dungeon?

[Maxi]

I think it's only like 150... But I could be way off. I'm really just grasping at straws. But that's more than enough.

Also, with Diamond and Pearl, I hope they make them different enough from the old games that it actually warrants a purchase. I'll probably buy it no matter what, but I don't want to be dissapointed again.

[OldNewell]

Ruby and saphire were a bit of a let down. The realtime (i.e. Time of day, events, etc.) makes another marvelous return. I loved that in silver/gold. If you've seen the pics, the Graphics are pretty good. I think that because it is for NDS it will have to be good or else we shall all fetch our torches and pitchforks and do away with Pikachu once and for all!

...Probably not, But anyway.

[TSplodey]

From what I have seen, the best way to describe the graphics are like AW:DS, but tilted a bit more and cleaner.

[OldNewell]

Pity the Battle graphics aren't slightly 3d. I would have liked to see more changes to the Battle scenes. I hope they make the lighting in the Battle scenes change with the time like the field view does. But i doubt it will.

[Queenie]

I gave up on the series after the horrendousness of Ruby and Sapphire. Now I am waiting for an MMO.

[OldNewell]

If you mean a Pokemon MMo I believe there is already an unofficial, and very crappy, one on some website that no one cares about. Diamond and Pearl; Wifi? Union rooms over Wifi? They're are bringing back the Union rooms but I dunno if they mean over the net. That would be cool.

[TSplodey]

If they included some MMO-esque functionality into D/P it would be sweet. But just all the expected WiFi additions (Battles/Trades/Competitions) is enough for me.

[Maxi]

The problem is the wifi will probably be like AC, so no code no go.

As for the graphics, haven't looked at them yet, but from what you've said, it sounds dissapointing. I'm not big on graphics, but they could at least make them slightly cel shaded or something to keep with the cartoony nature.

[OldNewell]

I agree. There's nothing like trading pokemon with someone from the other side of the world. Oh, and if i seem to have posted alot in this thread it is because it is my firct thread and I want it to be succesful. It's my baby :P

I think Ninty will need to include union rooms over Wifi or else it would be more difficult to Trade and such.

[Maxi]

Also, union rooms will be good if you can write to people. I remember in the GBA ones, to write, there was some crappy keyboard thingie and it was just shite. So yea, hopefully it's better. Writing would be awesome. Like you could go up to someone, press A to get into a convo, and then it becomes like pictochat!

Or, A can talk, B can start trade, X start battle, Y.... make love... or something.

[OrchidEleven]

I'm looking for a little graphical upgrade in these games (which I am anticipating greatly), perhaps just a minor upgrade. I wouldn't mind it to look a little more 3D, like in the DBZ games on GBA, and Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.

[OldNewell]

I think they will be '2.5D' Sorta in between. I also guess our little monster friends won't be doing their dance as they boogie their way into battle unlike Emerald and Crystal.

[Quatters]

I think they should change the combat system.
Make it team battles, so say 4 vs 4 Pokemon, Strategy RPG style battles, like in Disgaea or something.
Spice it up a little!

[TSplodey]

When I say a bit cleaner than AWDS, I mean ALOT cleaner. It really does look pretty, and from what I can see only the people arent 3D models.

[OldNewell]

The graphics nice and clean, not to mention Vibrant. I still think the Battle Graphics could have been changed a bit more, before the current format gets boring. I agree with quatters. Change it up a little.

[Maxi]

Where are images? I can't see them?

[OldNewell]

Where are images? I can't see them?

Go to the first post of this thread and click on the link to Serebii, then in the panel on the right hand side click on Images to see all of 'em.

[Maxi]

After seeing that, I'm not really impressed. Hopefully it gets better.

The battle scenes especially were dissapointing. I hope that instead of standing on two different circles it becomes one piece of ground. Also, I hope that they spruce up the battle graphics alot. They're really shite.

[OldNewell]

After seeing that, I'm not really impressed. Hopefully it gets better.

The way I see it is that it is near impossible to be impressed by a Pokemon game anymore, they're always te same old thing basically.

[OrchidEleven]

I also guess our little monster friends won't be doing their dance as they boogie their way into battle unlike Emerald and Crystal.

Why do you say this?

After seeing that, I'm not really impressed. Hopefully it gets better.

The battle scenes especially were dissapointing. I hope that instead of standing on two different circles it becomes one piece of ground. Also, I hope that they spruce up the battle graphics alot. They're really shite.

You HAVE to be shitting me. Are you sure you're checking out this link (http://www.serebii.net/diamondpearl/pics.shtml)? They look absolutly awesome to me, and I am anticipating these games even more now. They've got the 2.5D approach going which was what I expected, and it looks really nice.

[DeathMelon]

In an ideal world, the graphics might look a little like the ones in the FFIII remake. But thats just me dreaming.

Still, the pictures do show a vast improvement on the GBA versions.

[OldNewell]

Mmmmm...Improvementness...

The graphics are a nice way to start off Diamond and pearl. Lets just hope that they have some more tricks up their sleeve to make it (I haven't used this word to describe Pokemon RPGs before) ORIGINAL.

[Quatters]

Yeah, if it's just Pokemon with better graphics it's a bit pointless me thinks.

[OrchidEleven]

But there's new Pokemon, new characters and a whole new city... Not to mention an entirely different system with new features.

[Quatters]

But after the first couple of installments some of the new pokemon designs were just shit.
Also so what, it's just a new shape that has the same old moves.
New characters, pffffft, they're just NPCs who fall under the same old stereotypes.
New city.
Whoopdee doo.
Like I care.
I don't want it to be a slight upgrade like all the others, I want a whole new gaming experience!
Strategy RPG go!

[Grubdog]

It'll be online. That's enough for me.

[OldNewell]

Vibrant graphics and Online capability is good. But still, we want something spectacular! Like full frontal nudity! Machamp with his undies off... Jeez that's sickening.

[Maxi]

Alex, you're an idiot! You like Final Fantasy games. Different characters. Different cities. Pffft. Big deal.

And Orchid, the graphics are crap.

[Quatters]

Yeah, but usually new combat systems, new stories etc.
And the characters have character, all the pokemon guys are boring!

[OldNewell]

Here is what the Pokemon characters have to say:

"Look at me! I can play with my Pokeballs!"

"Look at me! I think snorlax is sexy!"

"Look at me! I have character!"

So, in conclusion, The NPCs of Pokemon RPGs have no character.

[Kingsob]

Do you think they will let us trade from the games out now to it ? I mean back when they put ruby out we couldn't trade from Silver and that. What a kick in the nuts that was. I spent hours and hours one Blue to get the full 150 then hours to get 249. I didn't really get in to the GBA ones as I just cbf getting them all again.

Such a pain in the butt

[Gemerald]

I only played Pokemon back in the day of Red, Blue and Yellow. Since then too many moves, too many Pokemon and too much of a marketing gimmick. I don't like Seribii.net so I'll wait for a proper news source to cover it.

I honestly do hope one day I can regain my love for playing this game because it was a brilliant concept. Furthermore everyone had a copy and multiplayer was a ton of fun if the other person didn't cheat.

I hope you keep us up to date and kudos on starting a topic *big thumbs up*.

[OldNewell]

I hope you keep us up to date and kudos on starting a topic *big thumbs up*.

Why Thank you. I hoped my first thread would be successful SO YOU BETTER POST ON IT PUNKS!!!

Do you think they will let us trade from the games out now to it ?

They are after completing 'certain requirements' you can insert your Ruby, saphire, etc. into the GBA slot of your DS and trade them over. That is a confirmed fact.

[Maxi]

Does that include Leaf Green and Fire Red? IT HAD BETTER!!

[TSplodey]

Why wouldnt it. All Advance Gen pokes should do so. Im sure youd much rather transfer from Colosseum to Sapphire to Diamond instead though. :D

[DekarTyphon]

Ru/Sa left me bored. If Di/Pe does the same, then that might be it for me and Pokemon. Unless they decide to do what they should have done after GSC and re-invent the whole thing.

[Maxi]

Ru/Sa left me bored. If Di/Pe does the same, then that might be it for me and Pokemon. Unless they decide to do what they should have done after GSC and re-invent the whole thing.
How about AC/DC?

[OldNewell]

Ru/Sa left me bored. If Di/Pe does the same, then that might be it for me and Pokemon. Unless they decide to do what they should have done after GSC and re-invent the whole thing.

I doubt they will reinvent it. It's the Pokemon franchise for Gods sake! Since when do they reinvent anything? On a further note, I hope the new pokemon aren't as crappy as Ru/Sa was. Luvdisc? What the hell? It's a love heart with eyes!

But i suppose for those of us who want something fresh there is Ranger and Mysterious Dungeon to look forward to.

EDIT: can we think of any better way to do battles in a pokemon RPG?

[Gemerald]

How about AC/DC?

^ I got electrocuted by that. Damn current :P rocks hard tho ;)

[Quatters]

EDIT: can we think of any better way to do battles in a pokemon RPG?

Already said, 4 vs 4 strategy RPG style!

[TSplodey]

That doesnt sound good though. 2v2 battles in RSE were great, and I was like 'awsome!' when I had my first one.

My opinion on RSE pokemon is that while some were scraping the barrel a bit (Luvdisc being a great example), alot of them were just plain cool and mature compared to the Pikachu of the day (Absol). And some of them were a great laugh (Man I still love Spoink).

[Maxi]

Yea, Alex I think that strategy 4 on 4 wouldn't be great. For starters, it's too small, you would need more pokemon, and also, it would take away from the fun of pokemon on pokemon. 2 on 2 battles gave me the shits.

I think they should improve the graphics for one. Also, have the poke's on the same piece of land, so they can actually fight. Make them fight, not just do some stupid rotating motion or something stupid.

Seriously, if they can make the battles look better it would make it better already.

[OldNewell]

Yeh, and instead of making more attacks, just make more battle combos too. Why 4 on 4? Why not go battlefield style and have Pokemon army on army? :P

[DekarTyphon]

Guys, don't you get it?

REAL TIME POKEMON BATTLES IT IS THAT SIMPLE.

[TSplodey]

In a FF-esque way Dekar? Thats the only way I can see it working well on the handheld.

[Maxi]

Dekar, that would be pretty cool.

I can think of it something like this, but I'm at work so haven't really put much thought into it! -

Each of the face buttons is an attack, 4 buttons, 4 attacks, simple. Now, imagine this kind of thing with the paper scissors rock format, but some actions will null others, such as... a water attack may put out a fire attack, BUT!! If the fire attack is really powerful, then maybe the water attack will only null some of it, and so the water guy does no damage, but the fire guy does a little bit... OOH!! You can choose to attack attacks or the pokemon!! If you attack an attack and it is more powerful (water/fire example again), so the water guy attacks the fire, completely nulls it, and then whats left hits the other pokemon!! HOW AWESOME WOULD THAT BE!!

Obviously, this needs a lot more thought, but still, I think it could work.

[OldNewell]

That's a pretty good idea. From the developers point of view i'm sure it would take a lot of hard work, but it isnt impossible. Perhaps they could use the microphone so you could shout the commands, Nintendogs Pokemon style!

Speaking of which that would be a good basis for a sequel to hey you pikachu. Never played it, heard it was crapola.

[Gemerald]

Guys, don't you get it?

REAL TIME POKEMON BATTLES IT IS THAT SIMPLE.

I've been wanting that and have said that to others for a long time. Definately FF-style. Slightly faster pokemon will still get the edge but in multiplayer it would give the people something to think about.

[OldNewell]

I'm not a fan of Final Fantasy. So care to elaborate?

[Maxi]

I'm not a fan of Final Fantasy. So care to elaborate?
Your characters have a little bar that fills up over time, the faster you are the faster it fills up. Once it's filled up you can attack. The thing is, if you take too long to choose, other guys can attack you if their bars fill up.

[OldNewell]

I see. So a faster Pokemons bar could fill up faster. The only problem there is that I can't see a way of incorporating Combo attacks. But that's a minor problem. That would be cool. Pity Di/Pe are just same old wimpy battles. (Sweet kiss? What kind of attack is that!?)

[TSplodey]

I've been wanting that and have said that to others for a long time. Definately FF-style. Slightly faster pokemon will still get the edge but in multiplayer it would give the people something to think about.
They do anyway. Ever seen a Choice Banded Aerodactyl sweep an entire team on its own?

[Gutsman Heavy]

They could at least make the battles more animated so its less like watching two cardboard cut-outs going at it.

[OldNewell]

'Cardboard Cut-Outs' is an excellent way of describing it. When i first heard a new RPG was on the way I immediately thought 3-D Battles! Onle to be horribly dissapointed. Pardon my horrid spelling.

[TSplodey]

I dont think the DS could hold 450+ 3D models somehow. Prove me wrong someone.

[OldNewell]

I'd prove you wrong if you were wrong. But you're probably right. I just thought that Animal crossing, Mario 64 DS and Nintendogs can pump out the goods.

[Maxi]

But it doesn't have to be 3d, just not so dull and shite.

[OldNewell]

The games were officially announced on October 7, 2004, though further details were not divulged. In the preceeding months, however, information began to trickle out via the pages of Japanese manga magazine CoroCoro Comic. Initial details unveiled basic information regarding several new Pokémon debuting within the games, such as Munchlax, a pre-evolution of Snorlax, Bonsly, pre-evolution to Sudowoodo and Lucario and Manaphy, the two new legendary Pokémon. In July 2005, new gameplay details were announced, among them were:
# Diamond and Pearl would feature compatiblity with the Game Boy Advance Pokémon RPGs (A later revelation stated that this compatibility is unlocked through completing a certain task within the game, though the nature of this task is currently unknown).
# Diamond and Pearl would be set in an all new land (later revealed as Shino).
# The games feature no new types, though previously unseen type combinations will be used. Lucario, the first Steel/Fighting-type, and Perap, the first pure Flying-type, are early examples of this.
# The DS' native support for Wi-Fi up to 16 simultaneous players would be employed. At a later press conference, Nintendo disclosed that Diamond and Pearl would have voice chat capabilities to communicate during battles as well as Wi-Fi connectivity to the upcoming Wii Pokémon title, Pokémon Battle Revolution.
# The resident professor of Futaba Town is named Professor Nanakamado.
# Aesthetic differences between male and female Pokémon of a given species will be implemented, including aspects such as differently sized or absent distinctive physical features. In the example given by CoroCoro, a female Wooper has a smaller antennae than its male counterpart.
# The Pokédex now has a weight comparison feature that allows the player to input their own height and weight to be compared to that of a Pokémon.
# The day-and-night system, originally introduced in Pokémon Gold and Silver will return in Diamond and Pearl; its scale has grown substantially, featuring the time periods of morning, daytime, afternoon, evening and night.[5]
# A completely new device known as the Pokétchi can be obtained and will play host to a variety of features, including a time management system, a calculator, a method for monitoring Pokémon in the breeding center, and a type chart.

Good ol' Wiki. But it also said that the sprites are "More detailed and complex". Perhaps the pre-release images don't do them justice.

[TSplodey]

Perap, the first pure Flying-type

You dont know how long Ive been waiting for this. Dunno why, but how every Flying type had Normal stuck on if it wasnt a Legendary Bird or some other elemenatal bird annoyed me greatly.

[OldNewell]

Perap, the first pure Flying-type

You dont know how long Ive been waiting for this. Dunno why, but how every Flying type had Normal stuck on if it wasnt a Legendary Bird or some other elemenatal bird annoyed me greatly.

I know how you feel. There there, everything is gonna be alright. Wait no it isn't. This 'Perap' looks like a weakling.

[TSplodey]

Probably evolves into something bigger, what with the half a name (Perap wtf?) and all.

[OldNewell]

I dunno. I think it is the 4th generation equivalent of Farfetch'd. That's why I say It's crap; Cause Farfetch'd was crap. Maybe Perap evolves into pecrap. Speaking of which, how come they haven't invented a poo through attack for the monkey-centric Pokemon such as Mankey?

"Mankey! Poo throw!"

SPLAT

[Maxi]

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Newellster again."

Dang.

[OldNewell]

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Newellster again."

Dang.

No worries! Feel free to praise my poo throw attack tommorow. Hopefully Nintendo Pick it up and we see it in Di/Pe :P.

[Maxi]

But that poo throw would be the best if they have awesome animations, and then you have makey against makey and they just keep throwing shit at each other!! :D
OH MAN!! That would be, like, more awesome than me!! AWESOME!!!

[OldNewell]

Here is the ideal battle:

"Mankey used stockpile!"
"Foe Pikachu used agility!"
"Mankey used Poo Throw!"
(Nice Splat sound)
"Foe Pikachu's Hygeine Sharply fell!"

If I had any experience with animation I would be creating that right now.

[5N1P3R]

I think, along with being real-time, you should be able to customise your pokemon, like with KRAAAZZAY hair-dos and what-not. I'm thinking of Sparky(sp?) off the cartoon, with his extra tuft of hair.
And Newell, you said something about difficulties with real-time combos, did you mean 2 or more pokemon working together, because that would be easy. Get both/all pokemon time-bars full and let it rip.

[OldNewell]

Nope, I was talking one. Like following up a Defense Curl with rollout. Or a constipate with Poo throw. I believe there are others. I think there should be more to create more strategy in the battles.

I agree, customizing the Pokemon's appearance would be cool. Like a 'PokeParlor' or something. Perhaps at least when they wear an item they ACTUALLY wear it.

[TSplodey]

Yeah cause theyd look so tough in battle holding Miracle Seed. :P

[OldNewell]

What about the Polka-Dot Ribbon :P

There is heaps they could do to make it better. But they probably won't.

Meanwhile I've been looking at some Mysterious Dungeon Pics and, In the words of the late Big Kev (Not the forum one), I'm excited! Looks cool. Let's hope the coolness transfers from the computer screen to my hands.

[canadaboy700]

http://pokemonsverige.org/images/Spel/DS/ranger/ranger_04.jpg

[TSplodey]

Huge sig? Thats a paddlin'

Srsly dude read the rules.

See that Sig? Its way too big! (http://forums.hyperactive.com.au/showthread.php?t=2303)

[OldNewell]

Hehehehe...Paddlin'. TSplodey, you're a genius! Another new attack to go with Poo throw.

"Pikachu used Paddlin'!"
"Foe Charmader's ass became red!"

Ok, I think you get the point about better attacks now.

[OldNewell]

Forgive me for double posting but new news is out on Diamond and Pearl. A small, pixelized(spelling?) image has been released of what could be the main two legendary Pokemon of Di/Pe. Follow the link here (http://serebii.net/index2.shtml) for the full story.

[gamer_eel]

Does anyone know if this Poke'mon will support online play?

[Maxi]

Does anyone know if this Poke'mon will support online play?
Apparently it will.

[gamer_eel]

Sweet, you know what i was thinking of, this would be so good, a Poke'mon MMO.
I would so buy that.

[OldNewell]

How 'bout a Pokemon MMO in which you are the Pokemon. I'd love to run around as Pikachu zapping people for the shear pleasure of jolting their anus.

[5N1P3R]

How 'bout a Pokemon MMO in which you are the Pokemon. I'd love to run around as Pikachu zapping people for the shear pleasure of jolting their anus.
You would Newell, you would. Think of the clans/guilds, in that game, you could make your own Squirtle Gang.

[gamer_eel]

Squitle Squad. Rofl, the mods will be called Officer Jenny

[gamer_eel]

Squitle Squad. Rofl, put mods in just for the sake of calling themselves Officer Jenny!

[Gemerald]

Can you cheat with the DS yet. I can imagine someone sharking max stats for Pokemon and totally owning everyone online.

[OldNewell]

Did you just say cheat?

Cheat?

Cheat?

CHEAT?

The answer is no. Not to my knowledge.

[TSplodey]

Not unless we're talking Metroid Prime Hunters glitches. ;)

[OldNewell]

For Pokemon on WiFi, cheats would just be stupid. I'd say Di/Pe would be WiFi compatible. That would make a 'Trainer card' more Important then currently. When I look at some of the new Pokes I think, even more so than before, that the Pokemon creators are on some sort of imagination inhibiting drugs.

[gamer_eel]

Not unless we're talking Metroid Prime Hunters glitches. ;)
MPH GLITCHES, WHERE WHERE?? KILL IT!!! Hehe, if people take advantage of the glitches against I disconnect. My most hated people are the ones who camp inside walls. Back to Poke'mon.

[Gemerald]

BRB Catching a Missingno.

[OldNewell]

They should invent a REAL Missingno Pokemon. It could be all genetic like Mewtwo.

[OldNewell]

The Di/PE Box art (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Dp_packshots_am3.jpg) has been released. A possible Japanese release date is rumoured to be September of this year.

[gamer_eel]

Hey nice, I like the box art. I was actually kinda hoping they would include all the old Poke'mon and instead of the same old adventure (get all the badges and beat elite 4) they have a new quest.

New Poke'mon on the box art indicate new Poke'mon though. I'm not dissapointed though, they may make some really cool new Poke'mon but some of th Poke'mon in Sapphire and Ruby were really unimaginative and I hope in diamond and pearl they have some great new Poke'mon ideas.

[OldNewell]

You couldn't really think of new Pokemon games and not think of another unimaginative generation of critters to catch. They should stop making more. All the good ones are made already.

Ninty should have just made the current Poke's customizable.

I've said it once and I'll say it again: Luvdisc? Wtf?

[TSplodey]

I've said it once and I'll say it again: Luvdisc? Wtf?
Well you see its a disc, shaped like a loveh-- ooooh.

[gamer_eel]

Yeah I base the whole unimaginative Pokemon thing around Luvdisk actually.

[OldNewell]

Weather seems to feature in parts of this game such as snow
Yayness!
The starting Pokémon may be of the Fighting/Dark/Psychic types
Yayness!!!
There appears to be a mode where you can physically place items on your Pokémon, whether they are seen in battle or not is yet unknown

Yayness!!!!!!
The release date is confirmed to be September 28th 2006
Yayness!!!!!!!!
The Legendary Pokémon revealed 3 weeks ago are called Diaruga (For Diamond) & Parukia (For Pearl) respectively. Diaruga is the Time-Ruling Pokémon, Parukia is the Space-Ruling Pokémon
Yayness!!!!!!!!!!!
Three New Pokémon, Cherimu, Pachirissu and Dorapion Respectively
Cherimu is a Grass Type Pokémon. Classification of Sakura Pokémon. It has a brand new ability called Flower Head which powers itself and any teammates up when Sunny Day is in effect. It has an attack called Trouble Seed. This attack changes the foe's ability to Insomnia temporarily
Pachirisu is an Electric Type Pokémon. Classification of Electric Squirrel Pokémon. It has either Run Away or Pick Up for it's abilities. It knows Thunderbolt
Dorapion is a Poison/Dark Type Pokémon. Classification of Changeable Scorpion Pokémon. It has either Battle Armor or a new ability called Snipe which increases the base value of an attack during critical hit. It knows Poison Fang. It has an attack called Cross Poison. This attack has a high chance of Critical Hitting and Poisoning
Tamanta is a Water/Flying Type Pokémon. It's Abilities are Swift Swim and Water Absorb
Lucario's second ability is called Humble Heart which increases Lucario's speed when flinched. Lucario has a new attack called Wave Guiding Bomb. It's a Fighting Type Attack. Lucario also knows Detect & Quick Attack
Munchlax has an attack called Nature Spurt which used the berry Munchlax may be holding to change the strength and type of an attack.
Weavile has an attack called Freeze. This attack disables the hold item that the opponent has.
Buizeru has an attack called Aqua Jet. This attack always hits first
Evil Team is Team Galaxy who are stealing Pokémon everywhere and trief to befriend the professor
Seperate rival other than the other gender. He is your childhood rival and although he is sometimes rash, he helps you along the way. Bottom of Pokémon Center is for WiFi features which utilise Friend Codes
Bottom Screen during battles confirmed for Menus
In Battle, the bag is organised as thus: HP/PP Recovery, Pokéballs, Status Recovery, Battle Use
YAYNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Perappu is now a Normal/Flying Type Pokémon. It's abilities are Keen Eye & a new Ability called Unstable Gait which allows for evasion to increase when confused

Awww. Tough break TSplodey, I know you were holding out for a pure flying type. :boohoo:

And that's all the new news! If you want to see some pics of the, most recently revealed, New Pokes check Them out here. (http://serebii.net/archive/July-2006.shtml) (Scroll down a little to see 'em)

[Manny M]

I think what I liked about the original pokemon games (and this is going way back), is that I could identify the pokemon and their characteristics. That sense of familiarity has died with each iteration, and now it just feels cheap.

We miss you Charazard. *sniff*

[Maxi]

I think what I liked about the original pokemon games (and this is going way back), is that I could identify the pokemon and their characteristics. That sense of familiarity has died with each iteration, and now it just feels cheap.

We miss you Charazard. *sniff*
It's Charizard you stupid wog!! Spell it right next time!!
And Bulbasaur was better.

But I know what you mean, back when I got Blue, I knew every pokemon, I knew there order, I knew what was good against what, and it was great. I remember trying to play one of the more recent games, and it had all new poke's, and I had no idea what they were.

Once that familiarility (sp?) is gone, the game just wasn't as good. I'd love for them to make a new game with all the new stuff except for the pokemon, which could be the original 150. The rest are just crap IMO, I never liked any of them.

[TSplodey]

Awww. Tough break TSplodey, I know you were holding out for a pure flying type. :boohoo:

gzhtfkrnofng@%*(^ftngh!!!!

[Manny M]

Once that familiarility (sp?) is gone, the game just wasn't as good. I'd love for them to make a new game with all the new stuff except for the pokemon, which could be the original 150. The rest are just crap IMO, I never liked any of them.

It's 'familiarity' you stupid greaseball!

[OldNewell]

The newer Pokes really do suck (read:LuvDisc) Some of the second gen were ok though (Umbreon was cool). Perhaps they should have added little by little, like 15 at a time. So we could familiarise ourselves with them.

I doubt there will ever be another Poke like Pikachu (or any other cool ones, each to there own). But at least there is new gameplay elements. Mysterious dungeon, in particular, is looking quite nice.

[Gemerald]

I always picked Squritle, mainly cause it could also learn Blizzard (and Earthquake... I think), had good Defense and Special. He totally kicked ass.

[Manny M]

Have they phased out the old favs for the new ones?

[Maxi]

Have they phased out the old favs for the new ones?
They may have kept them, and added all these new ones, so you know, you'll have to collect 100,000,000 pokemon now or something.

[Späg]

Man, i lost track of the types of Pokemon after the first 150. How many are there now? About 1000 or something?

[OldNewell]

I think there is nearly 500...

When I look forward to a new Pokemon RPG, I'm never looking forward to new pokes. Just (slightly) new graphics and extra features.

[Maxi]

I'm looking forward to them making the damn series go somewhere!

[Gemerald]

500. ****. That is a shitload. So I guess it's not about collecting them all now.

[OldNewell]

Gotta catch (A small portion of) 'em all!

Other than TONS of pokes don't forget they keep making useless new attacks too. Maybe Di/Pe will come bundled with Brain training so we can eventually remember everything we need to.

It's good that we can trade from FireRed and LeafGreen though. Get some good ol' pokemon into the game. Pokemon that we can remember.

[OrchidEleven]

Yeah, but I think they'll make it the same as some of the older ones, where you can only trade after you get the 8 badges. I miss Pokemon Red/Blue where you could give yourself a level 20 Pokemon as soon as you deliver that parcel to Oak, barely 15 minutes into the game.

[OldNewell]

Nintendo have said that you will have to perform a task before you can trade over. Pity. The new pokes will have to do before i can trade in some ACTUAL good pokemon. Yoshi would make such a cool Pokemon...

[DekarTyphon]

Charmander was the best because Charizard kicked all sorts of ass.

GSC had crappy starters by comparison. Nothing that you would want in a team.

[OldNewell]

Charmader itself wasn't without it's charms. I wish the emphasis would be taken off evolution a little so you are not obligated to evolve your critters.

[DekarTyphon]

But CHARIZARD!

[Gemerald]

Is this game still aimed at young children? Because 500 pokemon will keep someone occupied for over 6 months at least.

[OldNewell]

Is this game still aimed at young children? Because 500 pokemon will keep someone occupied for over 6 months at least.

I dunno, perhaps it's aimed at people with no lives?

[Slurry Murray]

GSC had crappy starters by comparison. Nothing that you would want in a team.

I used Blaziken or whatever the fire type was because it could learn Thunderpunch and Earthquake.

Personally, I liked GSC better than the original RBY series. It didn't feel cheap to me then. RuSa onwards was quite rubbish, however.

If only it weren't so popular, perhaps we'd see SOME innovation instead of the developer constantly going for either the tried and true or an even cheaper spinoff.

But I can't say it really interests me that much anymore. It was fun while it lasted, but I grew out of it. Give me Baldur's Gate, Arcanum or Oblivion any day.

EDIT IN RESPONSE TO NEPPING
Some idiot nepped me for HAVING AN OPINION. Whoever it was, you could have at least left some sort of message to tell me why, but instead you leave it blank. But nevermind, perhaps I should thank you for breaking up all the green in my rep table a bit by adding a bit of red. Oh, and you removed a grand total of four points. Thanks.

[OldNewell]

Is this game still aimed at young children? Because 500 pokemon will keep someone occupied for over 6 months at least.


I was wrong, it is 403.

[OrchidEleven]

EDIT IN RESPONSE TO NEPPING
Some idiot nepped me for HAVING AN OPINION. Whoever it was, you could have at least left some sort of message to tell me why, but instead you leave it blank. But nevermind, perhaps I should thank you for breaking up all the green in my rep table a bit by adding a bit of red. Oh, and you removed a grand total of four points. Thanks.

If it removed only four points then there's no need to go mental about it... Actually, there's no need to go crazy anyways.

I was wrong, it is 403.

This changes everything! :P

[OldNewell]

Well, 97 less...

Let me see how many I can name: Pikachu, Raichu, Charmander, Charizard, Umbreon, Eevee, Bulbasaur, Mew, Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho-oh, Squirtle, Pidgey, LuvDisc, Machop, Fearow.

16. I can only recall 16 without the aid of a 'PokeDex'.

There are X25.1875 more Pokemon than I can remember.

And 75% Percent more Pokemon then there should be.

This post is 100% awesome.

EDIT:

EDIT IN RESPONSE TO NEPPING
Some idiot nepped me for HAVING AN OPINION. Whoever it was, you could have at least left some sort of message to tell me why, but instead you leave it blank. But nevermind, perhaps I should thank you for breaking up all the green in my rep table a bit by adding a bit of red. Oh, and you removed a grand total of four points. Thanks.

That's the bad thing about the Reputation system, people (such as myself) feel they cannot express their opinion without being Nep-Raped.

[Ghazrat]

Pachirisu is an Electric Type Pokémon. Classification of Electric Squirrel Pokémon Squirrel type, I love eet! :D


I used Blaziken or whatever the fire type was because it could learn Thunderpunch and Earthquake.Blaziken was Ruby/Sapphire. >_> Cyndaquil was the Fire starter for GSC.

I never liked the Grass starters, Fire/Water are just so much more useful. Especially seeing as Bulbasaur was part Poison as well, which pretty much screwed him against Psychics. :?

[OldNewell]

The new starters are most likely to be psychic/dark/fighting. A nice change imo.

[Kingsob]

I just started playing Leaf Green. Getting ready for Perl.

I own all 3 starter pokemon thanks to my brother owning Fire Red. The other 3 I think I will have on my team are Slowbro, Dragonair and Gangar. Should make for a superpowered team

[Slurry Murray]

If it removed only four points then there's no need to go mental about it... Actually, there's no need to go crazy anyways.

I didn't mean to sound so "mental," but whoever it was could have at least given a reason even if they didn't give their name. I didn't think I said anything defamatory in there, unless whoever did it interpreted the "I grew out of it" comment as "people who still like Pokemon are childish." Instead I meant that I moved on to other RPGs, eg, Baldur's Gate, Arcanum and Oblivion as I mentioned before.

That's the bad thing about the Reputation system, people (such as myself) feel they cannot express their opinion without being Nep-Raped.

Yes, the whole system does suck. I've been there, believe it or not.

Blaziken was Ruby/Sapphire. >_> Cyndaquil was the Fire starter for GSC.

Whoops. I meant Typhlosion (or whatever its name is), the second evolution of Cyndaquil. My bad. Close, considering they're both fire starters. :-?

[TSplodey]

Charmander was the best because Charizard kicked all sorts of ass.

GSC had crappy starters by comparison. Nothing that you would want in a team.
Feraligatr was awesome. Not sure about his stats, but he was cool as. :D

[Blue]

So, can you guys clear this up for me: Will Diamond/Pearl, on it's own, contain every Pokemon from the entire series? Or will it need to link up with FR/LG and S/P to get them all? I'm assuming it will be self-conatined so as not to force new DS owners from buying outdated games from an older format.

[TSplodey]

Well it is confirmed that it can trade with RSE/FRLG (from the one DS), so I wouldnt get my hopes too high that D/P has every single poke. Id say it will have all the new ones (duh :P) with a selection of RBY/GSC/RSE pokes.

[Gemerald]

I was wrong, it is 403.

^ That's still a lot to collect and chances are you may not even be able to get all of them, unless you have a gameshark or something. Maybe a nintendo event perhaps?

[Ghazrat]

The new starters are most likely to be psychic/dark/fighting. A nice change imo.
Ooh, that's interesting. Since I hate Fighting types about as much as Grass ones it'll come down to a choice between two again though.

[OrchidEleven]

I think they'll go with some more standard types of Pokemon for the three starters, and scrap the psychic/dark/fighting idea. I mean, people who are kinda new to the game are gonna have to adapt to these new weird types, and it's much easier to think upon the basis of 'water beats fire, fire beats grass' then all this stuff to do with dark and fighting, which even I don't get sometime.

They'll want to keep it simple.

[Dastardly]

I think they'll go with some more standard types of Pokemon for the three starters, and scrap the psychic/dark/fighting idea. I mean, people who are kinda new to the game are gonna have to adapt to these new weird types, and it's much easier to think upon the basis of 'water beats fire, fire beats grass' then all this stuff to do with dark and fighting, which even I don't get sometime.

They'll want to keep it simple.
Fighting beats Dark, Dark beats Psychic, Psychic beats Fighting.

While I do agree with you, I hope it doesn't get changed. It'll be a nice change.

Change? Pokemon? Who am I kidding.

[Maxi]

They should just let you choose from like 12 pokemon or something. It would be better that way.. except that you'd have to trade with 11 other people to catch them all.

[OldNewell]

They should just let you choose from like 12 pokemon or something. It would be better that way.. except that you'd have to trade with 11 other people to catch them all.

Or how about the proffessor (sp?) gives you a pokeball and sends you out into a safari range. Then whatever you catch will be your starter. No more exclusive, one-off pokes.

[Maxi]

Or how about the proffessor (sp?) gives you a pokeball and sends you out into a safari range. Then whatever you catch will be your starter. No more exclusive, one-off pokes.
Ya, I think that they should get rid of exclusives, but they should still have a list to choose from. The thing about going to Safari Zone or something like that is you might not get the pokemon you want, so I think that being given a pokemon is the best way to start it, unless they made a game where you're not given a pokemon, and the pokemon finds you or something at the start, but then everyone would start with the same pokemon.

Maybe they should hide the other starting pokemon, so there's only one of each in the game, and you have to do stuff before you can get them, so that you can get them by not training. I think that would be good.

[TSplodey]

Maybe they should hide the other starting pokemon, so there's only one of each in the game, and you have to do stuff before you can get them, so that you can get them by not training. I think that would be good.
Which is why Yellow wins. You got your Pikachu at the start, then picked up Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Charmander in your travels. Everybody (with Yellow) wins!

[OldNewell]

I would love a remake of Yellow; 'LightningYellow'. They should have skipped remaking of Red and Green and revamped Yellow for sure.

[Gemerald]

Not sure if many people know but you can play Pokemon online (multiplayer battle element). The program is called NetBattle. I played Serial and GunBlade and it was quite fun :)

[TSplodey]

Netbattle is where I learned to hate Skarmbliss with a passion. And love Magneton greatly.

[OldNewell]

There is some new attacks revealed of late; Ice fang, Fire Fang, Lightning fang, Anticipate and, my personal favourite, scheme.

To me, that there is enough new attacks. But - alas - there will be over 50 more. I'll forget what tackle is.

[Maxi]

Why keep getting more? How about expanding the ****ing gameplay in some original way first, so that you know, it doesn't go stale.

[Gemerald]

Netbattle is where I learned to hate Skarmbliss with a passion. And love Magneton greatly.

^ Play me RBY style and I will <3 you 'til sundown.

[OldNewell]

NetBattle recently closed :(

Mysterious Dungeon draws ever closer as does Ranger.

I only wanna get one so which should it be? Ranger or Dungeon?

[Maxi]

Dungeon. That's what I'd say.

[TSplodey]

NetBattle recently closed :(

Mysterious Dungeon draws ever closer as does Ranger.

I only wanna get one so which should it be? Ranger or Dungeon?
You can still host your own servers I do believe, just dont remove all your installations and stuff.

[OldNewell]

You can still host your own servers I do believe, just dont remove all your installations and stuff.

YOU COULD HAVE TOLD ME THIS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO

So, Ranger or Dungeon people?

[Gemerald]

Actually there's a server I love to play on called Smogon. They seem to be well supported have a variety of players and it's interesting. I hope we can all have a game someday :D

[Maxi]

Misty is hot

[TSplodey]

Actually there's a server I love to play on called Smogon. They seem to be well supported have a variety of players and it's interesting. I hope we can all have a game someday :D
Smogon mrlk Fagon. That was a long time ago though so maybe theres better people there now. Its funny because they dont exist there anymore.

[OldNewell]

Smogon is still up and running Luckily. Just downloading the files now.

Speaking of Internet Poke'battles, That is gonna be cool in Di/Pe.

[Gemerald]

Hurrah I beat TS today. Though I got very lucky at R/B/Y. Anyone else want a game :D

[TSplodey]

No noone wants to play your archaic metagame. <_< lern2AdvanceGen

[5N1P3R]

Let me see how many I can name: Pikachu, Raichu, Charmander, Charizard, Umbreon, Eevee, Bulbasaur, Mew, Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho-oh, Squirtle, Pidgey, LuvDisc, Machop, Fearow
Newell, that's disgraceful, if you're at school tomorrow I'll show you my poke-maniac skills, I can list at least 150 and probably the first 20 in proper order.

That's not exaggeration.

PS: A month or so ago I got Mew in Yellow, Yellow FTW.

[Louis]

I hated Yellow. The fact that you start with Pikachu makes it so hard to get past the first boss, you have to catch crappy bug pokemon and get them to like, level 20 before you can beat him. Also it was annoying having Pikachu follow you around all the time.

[Gemerald]

No noone wants to play your archaic metagame. <_< lern2AdvanceGen

^ Neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[TSplodey]

I hated Yellow. The fact that you start with Pikachu makes it so hard to get past the first boss, you have to catch crappy bug pokemon and get them to like, level 20 before you can beat him. Also it was annoying having Pikachu follow you around all the time.
Lolnoob. Catch a Mankey and level it to 9 and it learns Low Kick which wipes Brock. And you can deposit Pikachu and he stops following you around.

[Maxi]

I'm starting to get antsy about this game. It's been a long time. The only pokemon games I played where Blue, and Leaf Green. And they're essentially the same game. I can't wait for these to come out. Hopefully my mate will have a DS by then too, so that we can trade pokers and CATCH 'EM ALL!!

[Gemerald]

Maxi play blue or play pokemon online or something. Dekar beat me last night but I'm going to even the score :D

[Fyuusii]

A month or so ago I got Mew in Yellow.

Gamesharking is hardly something to be proud of. :razz:

[TSplodey]

Gamesharking is hardly something to be proud of. :razz:
Maybe he did the Mew Glitch in Blue/Red. Like I did. To get Mew. And other pokemon.

[Fyuusii]

Maybe he did the Mew Glitch in Blue/Red. Like I did. To get Mew. And other pokemon.

The glitch was fixed in Yellow. I know; I tried. I tried so damn much.

What was your character name (this was the catalyst for the MissingNo. glitch, I believe) to trigger Mew in Red/Blue though?

[TSplodey]

My char name was Jason, like it always is. :P Screw M. Theres a much better way and you can get just about any Pokemon you want just after Vermillion City.

[Fyuusii]

Gamesharking? :razz:

Spill it, already!

[TSplodey]

Go Google Mew Glitch, its pretty common now, but it wasnt common knowledge until RBY was dead unfortunately.

[Gemerald]

Go Google Mew Glitch, its pretty common now, but it wasnt common knowledge until RBY was dead unfortunately.

^ Yeah it's true. I'm going to replay through the game and get it legally. I got my Mew from a friend. Never used Mew though. I feel really bad for whoever said "You can really get Mew if you do this" and meant it. For every 100 troll topics there's probably 1 real one... maybe..

[Maxi]

I want a pokemon.

[TSplodey]

Any in particular?

[5N1P3R]

Yeah, I did do the glitch where you can get any pokemon, no Gamesharks, or Missingno. And I am proud of it, thank you.

EDIT: The glitch WAS done in Yellow.

[Blue]

Yeah, I did do the glitch where you can get any pokemon, no Gamesharks, or Missingno. And I am proud of it, thank you.

EDIT: The glitch WAS done in Yellow.
Alright, can you post the glitch? I'm really interested to know. I remember always wondering how to get Mew in Red and Blue. There was that stupid truck which everybody thought had a Pokemon in it...

[TSplodey]

http://pokeglitch.tripod.com/id1.html

Lern2Google you lot.

EDIT: Heh I just saw my new rep message. How did it know...

[OldNewell]

Google! Google! Google!

That's one thing I hate about the technological advancement of Pokemon games; No more glitches!

Bring back the glitches!

[Blue]

That's too bloody obscure to be a glitch! Surely the programmers meant to include it? Thanks for the link, I just wanted to make sure I got the real thing.

[TSplodey]

If you read all the way down it actually explains how it works. Its based off the Sp. stat of the last Pokemon you have encountered.

[Blue]

If you read all the way down it actually explains how it works. Its based off the Sp. stat of the last Pokemon you have encountered.
Oh, you used the second one did you? I don't get step two:

"2. Fly away from the Gambler battle on route 8 (left of Lavender)."

What does this mean? How do you fly away from a battle? Can you explain this bit to me?

I caught 'em all on Yellow, bar one. I'd like to catch him, for nostalgia's sake.

Oh, and what WAS that stupid truck at the harbour for anyway? :P

[Fyuusii]

Oh, and what WAS that stupid truck at the harbour for anyway? :P

In the Japansese versions, the Pokéball containing Mew was hidden underneath that very truck, but this (plus the ability to move the truck) was removed from the Americanised releases.

[TSplodey]

I wish they wouldnt do that to us. Like we only got Ho-oh instead of Celebi (or was it both for the Japs?) in Colosseum. And Jirachi is available, but in Pokemon Channel...

Bjay: What do you is start walking towards the old guy, then IMMEDIATELY press Start to bring the menu up. You can use Fly, and it wont battle, even though the old man gets ! above his head.

[bretto]

Is it true that you can trade pokes from gameboy games to the DS games from the one DS?
I dont get how this would work personally but ive heard it?
can you even trade from a SP to a DS?

[bretto]

The SP has IR connection capabilities but does the DS have IR as well as WiFI?

DS SP IR WiFi Etc blows my mind!!!

[Maxi]

The SP has IR connection capabilities but does the DS have IR as well as WiFI?

DS SP IR WiFi Etc blows my mind!!!
The SP does not have IR iirc... that was the GBC, but you can't trade from that to the DS unless you trade from that to the GBA games, then from them to the DS games....

Which technically means you could get your whole blue/red/yellow team on your DS game if you are patient...

AWESOME!!

[bretto]

So the GBC can trade to the DS without a cable? Via IR yes, so i can safely assume that the DS has IR as well as WiFi as well then?

Thanx

[Maxi]

So the GBC can trade to the DS without a cable? Via IR yes, so i can safely assume that the DS has IR as well as WiFi as well then?

Thanx
No no no no no!! The DS has no IR!!

You could get stuff from GBC games to the DS if you went through the process of trading from a GBC to a GBA, and then from the GBA to the DS.

[OldNewell]

Wow, I am busy for ONE WEEK and look what happens. It seems technology doesn't slow down for those of us studying french. J'naime pas le francais. C'est Penible. :(

# Mime Jr. is a Pokémon exclusive to Pokémon Diamond. It has the Soundproof and Filter abilities
# Bonsly is a Pokémon exclusive to Pokémon Pearl. It has the Rock Head & Sturdy abilities
# Lucario knows a new attack called Faint. It manages to attack the foe even if it has successfully used Protect or Detect
# Perap knows a new attack called Blabber. This attack confuses the foe. This attack also lets you record your voice so that that is played when Perap uses it
# Pachirisu knows the attack Spark
# Contests have returned to the game and are now called Super Contests. They are done in 3 rounds and still have the usual aspect from Ruby, Sapphire & Emerald:
# The first round of Contests is where you dress your Pokémon up using the Touch Pen and certain items that you have access to such as crowns. This is the Visual Judgement category
# The second round is called the Dance Judgement category. Your Pokémon joins in a dance routine and you get rated based on rhythm and co-ordination. It is unknown how this will physically work as of yet
# The final round is the same as last time, the Performence Judgement category. You use your Pokémon's attacks to create dazzling appeals and try to Jam the other participants

Well CoroCoro has revealed a boat load of new information including the starters as we described the other day:

* Naetoru or Naetle as you'll see elsewhere is the Grass Type Pokémon starter. With the Young Leaf Classification, It has the standard Overgrow ability. It has the attack Razor Leaf
* Hikozaru is the Fire Type Pokémon Starter. With a Young Ape Classification, it also has the standard Blaze ability. It knows the attack Ember
* Pocchama is the Water Type Pokémon Starter. With the Penguin Classification, it has the standard Torrent ability. It knows the attack Bubble


Pics of the starters can be found on Serebii.net. They may not be Dark, Fighting, Psychic, but OMG! A PENGUIN! I always wanted a penguin pokemon! :10:

[Maxi]

The ****? THe Grass starter has Razor Leaf to begin with? That is my favourite move EVER!! But then I have to choose between that or the fire one, because the fire one is a YOUNG APE!!

Why do they tease me so!!

EDIT: The grass one looks shit. I'm gonna use Hikozaru... the ape one :P

[Kingsob]

I didn't think you could trade from your Gameboy games to the GBA ones.

[Maxi]

I didn't think you could trade from your Gameboy games to the GBA ones.
Well, I wasn't sure about that... But if you can trade from the originals (Blue, Red, Yellow) up to the GBC (Gold, Silver, Crystal (?)), then from the GBC ones up to the GBA ones (Ruby, Sapphire, Leaf Green, Fire Red), and then from the GBA ones up to the new DS (Diamond and Pearl, but sif I needed to say that), then technically you could get your team from the origianl games all the way to the latest games. But it would take a long time.

[5N1P3R]

Bubble is such a pussy move for a starter compared to Ember and Razor Leaf, I mean, it has an attack power of 20, while ember has 40 and Razor Leaf has 55. IMO, it should be replaced by Water Gun, it has the same atk power of Ember at least.

Enough of my talking, I wonder if the penguin can learn Fly?

[Maxi]

Enough of my talking, I wonder if the penguin can learn Fly?
Penguins can't fly!

[5N1P3R]

But it's Pokemon! If my Pikachu can learn Surf and Fly, I wanna damn flying penguin.

[OldNewell]

No! Not the ape! Go penguin! IT'S A PENGUIN! I like penguins as depicted below.
http://flatout.main.jp/YORDRUN/GALLERY/FUNNY_PHOTO/PENGUIN.jpg
My pet penguin and I go for a trip to the store.

I am going for the penguin. Unless, that is, the evolutions are hideous mutants from beyond the grave. Like Jessica Roe.

Bubble is such a pussy move for a starter compared to Ember and Razor Leaf, I mean, it has an attack power of 20, while ember has 40 and Razor Leaf has 55. IMO, it should be replaced by Water Gun, it has the same atk power of Ember at least.

If you had a literacy level of above a 5 year old, you would realise that the text did not mention starter moves. It states that the pokemon will learn these moves eventually. That's how I perceived it anyway.

[Blue]

Well, I wasn't sure about that... But if you can trade from the originals (Blue, Red, Yellow) up to the GBC (Gold, Silver, Crystal (?)), then from the GBC ones up to the GBA ones (Ruby, Sapphire, Leaf Green, Fire Red), and then from the GBA ones up to the new DS (Diamond and Pearl, but sif I needed to say that), then technically you could get your team from the origianl games all the way to the latest games. But it would take a long time.Are you sure you can trade pokemon from Gold and Silver to Ruby and Sapphire? How?

[OldNewell]

Are you sure you can trade pokemon from Gold and Silver to Ruby and Sapphire? How?

YOU CAN'T! Stop giving the little kiddies false hope!

[TSplodey]

If you had a literacy level of above a 5 year old, you would realise that the text did not mention starter moves. It states that the pokemon will learn these moves eventually. That's how I perceived it anyway.
Vine Whip comes before Razor Leaf anyway. With its massive 10 PP.

[Gemerald]

YOU CAN'T! Stop giving the little kiddies false hope!

^ I wish you could though, how do you get a complete Pokedex on RuSa then?

[Ghazrat]

* Naetoru or Naetle as you'll see elsewhere is the Grass Type Pokémon starter. With the Young Leaf Classification, It has the standard Overgrow ability. It has the attack Razor Leaf
* Hikozaru is the Fire Type Pokémon Starter. With a Young Ape Classification, it also has the standard Blaze ability. It knows the attack Ember
* Pocchama is the Water Type Pokémon Starter. With the Penguin Classification, it has the standard Torrent ability. It knows the attack BubbleThink I'll wait until I see the final evolutions (like always), but I definantly feel a lean towards the Penguin one. :D I just curse the fact that the Grass starter's a turtle! I hates Grass Pokémon, but GAH, TURTLE!

[TSplodey]

^ I wish you could though, how do you get a complete Pokedex on RuSa then?
Trading with FR/LG and Colosseum. Colosseum has the exact Pokemon that are missing from the entire Adv. Generation. Except for the 'Mew' types (Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys), I have every Pokemon between Sapphire and FireRed. I just need to get round to putting them all onto Fire.

[Zinnwaldite]

I think i'd start with the little Ape. I think that waiting to see the final evolutions would spoil the experience somewhat though. It'd be a lot more exciting to discover them for yourself.

[OldNewell]

I think i'd start with the little Ape. I think that waiting to see the final evolutions would spoil the experience somewhat though. It'd be a lot more exciting to discover them for yourself.

That would be nice. But there is two reasons it is bad idea.

1) You might put all your effort into training the Pokemon, only to find that when it finally evolves, it is a total douche-bag.

2) Most will already know the evolved forms before they even play the game.

[Maxi]

1) You might put all your effort into training the Pokemon, only to find that when it finally evolves, it is a total douche-bag.
Pokemon cannot be evil, they only do as their master tells them to.

Now, by that logic, if the pokemon is a total douche-bag, then so is the trainer!! :P

And I hate you guys for making me question getting the monkey over the penguin...

[Zinnwaldite]

That would be nice. But there is two reasons it is bad idea.

1) You might put all your effort into training the Pokemon, only to find that when it finally evolves, it is a total douche-bag.

2) Most will already know the evolved forms before they even play the game.


It's what i experienced when with my Squirtle when i had Blue back in the day. It was so exciting not knowing what my creature was going to turn into each time it evolved. I guess back then though it was win-win because all the starter's evolved forms were awesome.

[Blue]

It's what i experienced when with my Squirtle when i had Blue back in the day. It was so exciting not knowing what my creature was going to turn into each time it evolved. I guess back then though it was win-win because all the starter's evolved forms were awesome.
You didn't just look at the cover or the cartridge and... work it out? o_0

[OldNewell]

Pokemon cannot be evil, they only do as their master tells them to.

Now, by that logic, if the pokemon is a total douche-bag, then so is the trainer!! :P

And I hate you guys for making me question getting the monkey over the penguin...

What I meant was; Imagine you train a Poke to level 50. Then it evolves. And, to your dismay, it becomes a Luvdisc. You would look something like this: :jawdrop: Followed by a period of this: :what?: Finishing up with this: :veryangr:

Furthermore, It's a PENGUIN FOR GOD SAKES! A PENGUIN! GO PENGUINS!

[Luminoth]

I think they should do something new with the Poke'mon story. The same formula, obtain 7 badges and collect however many of the beasts I think is getting tired.

[OrchidEleven]

I agree, but it's 8 badges. :P

[Luminoth]

Heh my mistake, hit the wrong key.

[Gemerald]

Trading with FR/LG and Colosseum. Colosseum has the exact Pokemon that are missing from the entire Adv. Generation. Except for the 'Mew' types (Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys), I have every Pokemon between Sapphire and FireRed. I just need to get round to putting them all onto Fire.

^ Sounds like a large amount of work. Damn.

[Zinnwaldite]

You didn't just look at the cover or the cartridge and... work it out? o_0


Nope, haha. I was too young and naive.

[5N1P3R]

I can't really think what a penguin could evolve into, a bigger penguin maybe? They might go the Ursaring (sp?) route and turn a cute thing into a hulking behemoth-monster.

[OldNewell]

I can't really think what a penguin could evolve into, a bigger penguin maybe? They might go the Ursaring (sp?) route and turn a cute thing into a hulking behemoth-monster.

That is my concern. But so far, The penguin is my choice. Let's wait and see what they evolve into and then we can properly decide. The ape might turn into a baboon or something...

[5N1P3R]

A baboon you say? Yep, definite poo-throwing opportunities are arising here.

[OldNewell]

Flaming Poo Throw!

[Ghazrat]

Here's a question, how do people decide which versions to get? Box art? Version exclusive monsters? Eenie meenie miney moe?

[SOX]

I just pick up the redish one eg red, gold, ruby. No real reason really.

[Maxi]

I picked up Blue because I couldn't find red, and then I got Leaf Green because my friend was all like "I'm not gonna get green if I'm using Charmander! You're using Bulbasaur, you get green, I'll get red!" And I was all like :shrug:

I would prefer the red ones, seeing as red is my favourite coloour and all, but I'm not too fussed.

[Nic Xtreme]

I got Red initially because my favourite colour is red. I got Silver because Lugia was -and still is - a haul-arse Pokemon. I got Ruby because it was like, red. I'll be getting Leaf Green because the majority of Fire Red's "exclusive" Pokemon are already on Ruby, and I don't know what I'll get in the 4th Gen...but that Space Pokemon is pretty awesome.

[OldNewell]

Why don't they do a Pokemon: Blank. So we don't need to worry about colours :P

[Maxi]

Why don't they do a Pokemon: Blank. Sowe don't need to worry about colours :P
What's that? We shoot pokemon... I think you're onto something here!!

[5N1P3R]

Yeah, I'm thinking Pokemon Snap but with an MP5/N.

As for my choice of colours, I chose Blue because it's my favourite colour and Blastoise could kick Charizard's ass. Silver because I'm such a maverick, everyone was going: Gold is the best because it's like the olympic medals. FireRed because my dad's girlfriend got LeafGreen, and Charizard could kick Venasaur's ass.

[OldNewell]

Yeah, I'm thinking Pokemon Snap but with an MP5/N.

As for my choice of colours, I chose Blue because it's my favourite colour and Blastoise could kick Charizard's ass. Silver because I'm such a maverick, everyone was going: Gold is the best because it's like the olympic medals. FireRed because my dad's girlfriend got LeafGreen, and Charizard could kick Venasaur's ass.


YOU LIE! You picked Blue because your dad's girlfriend picked red and you wanted to win with a Blastiose over Charizard. That's what you told me anyway. I just pick the game with the coolest looking Pokemon on the box. Hence; Silver, Ruby, and probably will pick Diamond.

When Gold and Silver first came out, Kmart charged $3.00 more for Gold. What a travesty.

[5N1P3R]

Newell, that was me talking about FireRed, not Blue... and I never said that I picked Charizard, I was talking about the boxart there.

[OrchidEleven]

I think I went Red, Yellow, Silver, Crystal, Sapphire, Leaf Green... But I've also picked up most of the others on the way.

[TSplodey]

I went Yellow, Blue (for Bros b'day and personal gain :D), Silver (Gold had crap pokemons compared to Silver imo), Sapphire, FireRed. I also have a Gold lying around atm.

[aubergine]

I got LeafGreen because it was the only one there. Only Pokemon game I've played, though I'd consider another if it rates well.

[Jickle]

I got Red (great big dirty dragon > some form of turtle) Gold (because it's gold) and Ruby (great big dirty scaly thing > some form of hideous whale monster).

[Gemerald]

I'm missing Gold and Crystal which might not seem like a big deal but I've tried to find a working copy of both with no luck. For some reasons the save doesn't work properly. I'm thinking people turned it off during saving or tried the pokemon clone trick -_-

[Blue]

I got Yellow first.

I'd pick Red over Blue, because of Charizard.
Silver over Gold or Crystal, because silver is a better colour, and Ho-oh was queer.
Sapphire over Ruby, because I always thought Rubys were a very feminine stone. I'd probably pick Emerald over either now, because Rayquaza is quite simply the coolest Legendary since Mewtwo.
FireRed over LeafGreen, for obvious reasons.
As for the new ones, Diamond all the way.

POKEMON HELP REQUIRED!!!

How do I get a bloody Feebas? I surf for ages on 119, and it never shows...

[OldNewell]

How do I get a bloody Feebas? I surf for ages on 119, and it never shows...

If you are playing Ruby or Sapphire, hang in their. It is tedious but will show itself eventually. If Emerald, it only appears in 6 predetermined squares of the river.

Make sure you are using a super rod and are fishing in the northern area of route 119. It's a slippery little sucker, and damn ugly too, but it is worth it when it evolves.

[Blue]

If you are playing Ruby or Sapphire, hang in their. It is tedious but will show itself eventually. If Emerald, it only appears in 6 predetermined squares of the river.

Make sure you are using a super rod and are fishing in the northern area of route 119. It's a slippery little sucker, and damn ugly too, but it is worth it when it evolves.Thanks. I'm sitting on 192 in my 'Dex, so I thought I'd pick it up again.

Northern area? As in, up the waterfall? There are four glowing squares on the map, so you mean only fish in the top most square?

[Maxi]

Seriously, as long as Misty is in this in a bikini I'll be happy.

[TSplodey]

Northern area? As in, up the waterfall? There are four glowing squares on the map, so you mean only fish in the top most square?
No need to be up the waterfall, Ive caught them in various places all along 119. Easier just to find someone nearby with one and ask them to breed and trade really. :P

[OldNewell]

The hardest part about catching a Feebas, is that when you encounter one, you just want to make it suffer.

[Blue]

The hardest part about catching a Feebas, is that when you encounter one, you just want to make it suffer.
Yeah... Fish stew tonight!

[TSplodey]

As if make it suffer. Milotic is one kickarse poke.

[OldNewell]

Yeah... Fish stew tonight!

They need to add that feature to Di/Pe. The ability to cook your pokemon. I would love a juicy steak of Miltank to go with my Vileplume salad.

[Blue]

Pokemon Solid 3: Ekans Eater

I miss the old Pokes. Can't wait for Diamond and Pearl. Just to see Arbok or Weepinbell again.

[bretto]

Ok specifics are important here so, (yes ive asked this but i try again for the response/information desired)

Trading from a gameboy advance games (ruby, sapphire, emerald) to the DS games WILL be capable via a peripheral device of some description (ie. cable).

Pokemon are like shoes! who still has shoes from more than 3 years ago!! :-)
The only old pokemon i want is abra!! Abra would be like owning a pair of vintage air jordans!! Charizard etc, dunlop runners!!

I joke delibaretly no offence implied!!

[TRON]

Dunlop runners are fkn A.

[Blue]

Ok specifics are important here so, (yes ive asked this but i try again for the response/information desired)

Trading from a gameboy advance games (ruby, sapphire, emerald) to the DS games WILL be capable via a peripheral device of some description (ie. cable).

Pokemon are like shoes! who still has shoes from more than 3 years ago!! :-)
The only old pokemon i want is abra!! Abra would be like owning a pair of vintage air jordans!! Charizard etc, dunlop runners!!

I joke delibaretly no offence implied!!Dude. The DS has two slots. You stick Diamond in one. You still with me here? Okay, then you stick Ruby/Sapphire/FireRed/LeafGreen in the other slot. Yes, the GBA slot. So, you have a game in each slot, right? There's your peripheral device mate, it's called a bloody DS. The DS stands for Dual Slot you know?

[TRON]

The DS stands for Dual Slot you know?
It's also known to stand for dual screen, developers system and the list most likely goes on.

[bretto]

Dual screen actually!
i had previously asked if it could be done with a game in each slot from the same DS and nobody including yourself decided to answer that one so lose the tone Bgay!

[Maxi]

Dual screen actually!
i had previously asked if it could be done with a game in each slot from the same DS and nobody including yourself decided to answer that one so lose the tone Bgay!
Geez... Bgay... :roll: He's got a good one there, seeing as Bjays name lends itself to other forms of sexual humour so well... :roll:

Anyway, BOT, I want to know what kind of pokemon you have in your party. The exact pokemon don't matter, it's the types that I care about. Now, mine won't be 100% accurate because I haven't played in a while, but here goes:

Grass
Fire
Electricity
Flying
Pyschic
Water/Ice

[SOX]

Pokemon Solid 3: Ekans Eater

I miss the old Pokes. Can't wait for Diamond and Pearl. Just to see Arbok or Weepinbell again.
You could just play one of the games with them already in it instead of waiting. :|

[Blue]

Dual screen actually!
i had previously asked if it could be done with a game in each slot from the same DS and nobody including yourself decided to answer that one so lose the tone Bgay!
Uh, YA RECKON!? Dual Slot was a joke mate, as was the whole post. Relax, and take a joke. Now, while we're here, just exactly where would you insert this cable? The DS doesn't take cables. So please, don't try to be a smart arse back with "Dual screen actually!" or "Bgay", it's unbecoming.

Maxi, I'll try to think of my ultimate team...

Rayquaza - Dragon/Flying
Arcanine - Fire
Raichu - Electric
Mewtwo - Psychic
Dewgong/Gyarados - Water

The other slot is interchangeable.

[OldNewell]

Uh, YA RECKON!? Dual Slot was a joke mate, as was the whole post. Relax, and take a joke. Now, while we're here, just exactly where would you insert this cable? The DS doesn't take cables. So please, don't try to be a smart arse back with "Dual screen actually!" or "Bgay", it's unbecoming.

Maxi, I'll try to think of my ultimate team...

Rayquaza - Dragon/Flying
Arcanine - Fire
Raichu - Electric
Mewtwo - Psychic
Dewgong/Gyarados - Water

The other slot is interchangeable.

It's not as though we can tell if your joking or not. With the whole absence of expression.

A cable could be attached to a cart and placed in the GBA slot. Also your team only has 5 there and ditch Rayquaza. I hate it so much.